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[arch-general] Sign-offs for community-testing?
by Ng Oon-Ee 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

Hi all, I noticed a new pulseaudio in [community-testing], do request for sign-offs for that come to [arch-dev-public] as well? Or the AUR ML (which I'm not on)?

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[arch-general] new netinstall image required ?
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

Hello all, I wanted to do a new install today, using netinstall on an USB stick which has worked at least 5 times before, the last time less than two weeks ago. Things failed in the 'Configure System' phase, seems I didn't have an /etc under /mnt (and yes I did have a '/' partition and it was mounted on /mnt !). Do I need a new /arch/setup ? Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] heimdal-1.3.2-1 (from testing) still linked against openssl 0.9.8
by Chris Brannon 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi, According to ldd, the heimdal package in [testing] is still linked against openssl 0.9.8. This shouldn't be the case, should it? -- Chris

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[arch-general] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN - how to get it working
by Alain Muls 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi All I managed to get X up although the keyboard is always on US in stead of BE layout, but I think I can find that one out. I also tried to get wifi access but I cannot get the driver installed. On Ubuntu I get the following: [507] [amuls@geodprof: ~]$ dmesg | grep -i wire [ 21.608085] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27k [ 21.608350] iwlagn 0000:05:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54 What is the package to install and what do I have to do afterwards? bye/Alain

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[arch-general] RAID 1 - Grub Problem / not finding stage1 file
by b1 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hello alltogether I am desperatly trying to get raid working. Currently I have Arch installed on /dev/sda and I would like to make an RAID 1 Array out of it (using /dev/sdb). I followed the guide from the wiki (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID) and now I am stuck when I try to install grub on my newly created raid1-drive (Chapter 3.6 in the Wiki). Everytime I do a find /grub/stage1, grub only discovers the stage1 file on /dev/sda, but not the one on my raid-drive (/dev/sdb). I have tried this normally and from within the chroot environment, with no success. When I try to install the bootloader manually via root(hd1,4) setup(hd1) grub gives the error 14: filesystem compatibility error. I have absolutly no idea, what I can do now. /dev/sdb5 is a ext2 filesystem with type "Linux Raid Autodetect", containig all the necessary files (mounting the partition and doing an ls shows the stage1 file). Any help on what I should do now is greatly appreciated Thanks Benedikt

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[arch-general] Problem with suspend
by Csomay Mihaly 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi, I'm configuring suspend/resume on an Acer 1810TZ, but I have a small problem. I already set it up to suspend when I close the lid, I modified /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh to this: #! /bin/sh DISPLAY=:0 /bin/su csm -c "/usr/bin/i3lock -c 000044" /usr/sbin/pm-suspend It works as expected, turns off the wifi, etc., restores fine when I hit a button. So I would think that running pm-suspend from a terminal would work also, but it hangs on /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98-smart-kernel-video. If I move that file away, it suspends, but then the screen isn't restored on resume, it's blank. The worst part of it is that it worked from the command line once, but back then I didn't know that hibernating with kms-enabled intel chips results in memory corruption, and it killed my root partition so bad I had to reinstall. And now it's not working. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. csm

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[arch-general] Gnome 2.30 already?
by Brendan Long 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Wow guys, I've always liked how Arch gets updates much faster than other distros, but how many hours has this been out? Kudos to the Arch devs. -Brendan Long

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[arch-general] An amazing disk problem !
by Nilesh Govindarajan 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Hi, I'm having an amazing disk problem. My disk has LVM configured. /home and swap sits on LVM, while / is direct. USELVM=yes is enabled in /etc/rc.conf and also it is there in mkinitcpio.conf The problem is that, sometimes when I boot, fsck complains that it wasn't able to find a ext2 superblock, and drops me to a sulogin shell. Now if I run fsck -vyf /home, it works. Even if fsck isn't run, it mounts properly using the command mount /home. Now again when I restart, it will say the same thing or boot properly (seems like a random choice :D). At last fed up, I issued the following commands at the sulogin shell: mount -o remount,rw / hostname Linux (yeah that's my hostname) mount /home init 5 And it worked successfully. Any ideas about this AMAZING problem ??!?!? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !

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[arch-general] Firefox Qt package
by Bernhard Friedreich 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Hello! In case anyone is interested: I created a proof of concept - very basic - firefox-qt package and the needed xulrunner package. (No this is no april fools joke) :P You can find more information about the whole affair on my blog: http://friesoft.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/did-anyone-say-firefox-qt-with-arc… Does anybody know how I can replace the original firefox-qt package on aur? I think it's obsolete and it doesn't seem to work (I think). Best regards, Bernhard Friedreich

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[arch-general] Keyboard not working in X11
by Alain Muls 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Hi All I have a GeForce 9600 GT graphics card and installed the nvidia driver. I had difficulties in getting a X11 screen with the terminal, but finally I made it. The xterm comes up but my keyboard does not work. Any suggestions? Tx/Alain ------------------------------ *Alain Muls* alain.muls(a)rma.ac.be Royal Military Academy Tel +32 2 7426340 Renaissance Avenue 30 Fax+32 2 7426622 B1000 Brussels - Belgium

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[arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings
by Nathan Wayde 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Here's one for ya. Decompress a gzip'ed package, say pacman. Now, recompress every file in that directory with `xz -1`, smile :) Result: the re-compression is faster than a tar+gz and in each case so far(kerne26, gcc, perl, pacman, kdelibs) is a little smaller as well. It doesn't approach the (much smaller) size of tar+xz but it does take less time to compress and is smaller than what we had before. I know, you're thinking why do that. I wanted to implement an idea for the A.R.M, which is basically to allow downgrade on a file-by-file basis, my theory is that most(many) of the files in 2 versions of a package (esp. when they are minor versions or pkgrel bumped) are often exactly the same. My test involved kdelibs-4.3.98-1 and kdelibs-4.4.0-3. I first decompress both, and remove the duplicates from kdelibs-4.4.0-3 which results in sizes of 59.5MB for the original kdelibs-4.3.98-1 and 35.5MB for the de-deduped kdelibs-4.4.0-3. Now recompressing with `xz -1` kdelibs-4.4.0-3 is brought down to 10.7MB. Comparing with the delta (between the original packages) which 5.3MB it's not a whole lot while allowing more flexibility(IMHO). Some more numbers for comparison, the tar+xz(level -6) for kdelibs-4.4.0-3(de-duped) was 8.4M in comparison to tar+gz which was 12.6MB the original tar'd sizes were 19.8MB for gz and 13.9MB for xz. I know I didn't test based on pkgrel or try gz(as opposed to xz -1) only nor did it very scientifically but I thought it was very interesting non-the-less. I also suspect that the similar results would be seen for a test with xdelta on each file but that's not very useful to me so I'll leave that one for another day.

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[arch-general] new pacman error: vercmp: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8
by David C. Rankin 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Guys, After the pacman update tonight, I am getting errors every once in a while during updates that say: vercmp: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /tmp/alpm_DBOUwW/.INSTALL: line 8: [: -lt: unary operator expected It doesn't seem to be hurting anything, but didn't know if I needed to do anything else about it. What say the gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Boot iso with grub2
by Christopher Rogers 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

There has been a request for a findiso boot option so you can boot the iso with grub2 on a usb stick. I have this feature in my archiso-live and it works very well. Here is some code i have for it: _mnt_iso() { img="${1}" #mnt="${2}" mnt="/tmpfs/mnt/findiso" msg "::: Mounting ${img} to ${mnt}" mkdir -p "${mnt}" mount -r -t iso9660 "${img}" "${mnt}" } I remade my archiso hook to look more like the official one yesterday. I also added a _mnt_move function so you can move mounts instead of just bind them. Here is code for that: _mnt_move() { src="${1}" mnt="${2}" msg "::: Moving ${src} to ${mnt}" mkdir -p "${mnt}" /bin/mount -o move "${src}" "${mnt}" } I believe the /bootmnt could use _mnt_move instead of _mnt_bind. I have more features that could be added too. I hope this helps.

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[arch-general] Problem mounting shares with latest smbclient-3.5.0-2
by Nigel Henry 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

I have smbclient-3.5.0-2, and did the suggested chmod +s on /sbin/mount.cifs, and /sbin/umount.cifs. The UID, and GID bits are now set on both, but I still can't mount shares from KDEmod3's smb4k (version 0.9.9). The error message says "/sbin/mount.cifs: permission denied: no match found for /home/djmons/smb4k/GATEWAY/djmons found in /etc/fstab". Now I don't believe I need an entry in /etc/fstab because on my Debian lenny install an entry is created in /etc/mtab when the share is mounted, and removed when unmounted. I can't revert back to my earlier version of smbclient (version 3.3.7-1), as I only recently installed the samba package (samba-3.5.0-2), and have no version to match my earlier version of the smbclient. are earlier package versions still kept somewhere? I do have more than one user set up on this Archlinux install. Would that have anything to do with why the chmod +s isn't doing it's job properly? idiotboy:x:1002: djmons:x:1003: Any suggestions as how to resolve the problem. Nigel.

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[arch-general] Getting X running on new install
by Alain Muls 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Hi All, I am using Ubuntu since 2005 and I like it. The only problem is that each 6 month I am spending some time to update. I have for that 2 root partitions available. I heard about Arch Linux and its rolling release and decided to try it out. The base install went fine and I have a running core system. So I decided to tackle the X server which under Ubuntu uses the nvidia proprietary driver. I installed pacman -S nvidia nvidia-config and gave startx from my user account a try. No luck, the message was cannot load module nvidia. Then I used lshw and the card is loisted as G96 [GeForce 9600 GT] both under Ubuntu and Arch Linux. I uninstalled the nvidia and installed pacman -S nvidia-96xx nvidia-config and again no luck. How can I get this card up and running with full hw support as under Ubuntu? Tx/Alain

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Re: [arch-general] Getting X running on new install (Ionut Biru)
by Alain Muls 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

> > > On 03/30/2010 06:40 PM, Alain Muls wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am using Ubuntu since 2005 and I like it. The only problem is that each > 6 > > month I am spending some time to update. I have for that 2 root > partitions > > available. > > > > I heard about Arch Linux and its rolling release and decided to try it > out. > > > > The base install went fine and I have a running core system. > > > > So I decided to tackle the X server which under Ubuntu uses the nvidia > > proprietary driver. > > > > I installed > > pacman -S nvidia > > nvidia-config > > > > and gave startx from my user account a try. No luck, the message was > cannot > > load module nvidia. > > > > Then I used lshw and the card is loisted as > > G96 [GeForce 9600 GT] > > both under Ubuntu and Arch Linux. > > > > I uninstalled the nvidia and installed > > pacman -S nvidia-96xx > > nvidia-config > > > > and again no luck. > > > > How can I get this card up and running with full hw support as under > Ubuntu? > > > > Tx/Alain > > you should really read beginners guide. everything is covered there. > everything have to installed. after a core installation be sure to fully > update the system: > pacman -Syu > > after that you _need_ to install xorg. > pacman -S xorg > > after that you may decide what driver you want to use. > pacman -S nvidia > > -- > Ionut > > > Hi That is exactly what I did. I am not a beginner and have read quite some articles about Arch and I am aware of the fact that I have to follow carefully all steps in this installation process. So pleas bear with me and hep me over this problem. Since it failed I tried to identify the card (I did not know the lshw command before) and redid the steps with the driver for the nvidia-96xx card. Again no X-screen. I also copied the xorg.conf from Ubuntu over to Arch but again no X server that would run. I also tried the nouveau driver and he is given as error: (EE) [drm] failed to open device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found It is the second time I try to install Arch, I really want to try out this rolling principle, but again I am unable to get up the X server which is working without flaws in Ubuntu.

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[arch-general] pacman error
by Shridhar Daithankar 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Hello, I got this error when I ran pacman -Syu. [root@bheem horo]# pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... ... <lots of package listing,mostly KDE4.4.2> Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 894.60 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y checking package integrity... error: error while reading package /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings- smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz: Lzma library error: No progress is possibleTruncated input file (needed 5484032 bytes, only 0 available) error: failed to commit transaction (libarchive error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. [root@bheem ]# ls -la /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings-smoke-4.4.2-1- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2441216 2010-03-31 05:03 /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings-smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz My guess is I would have to wait till mirrors sync. out possibly. Is there anything else I should look for? -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] Network gurus - Weird datadump -- looks like dns or wins (or both) - anybody know what caused it? (read more)
by David C. Rankin 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Guys, Not very often, but every now and then you see something you haven't seen before and wonder, "WTF?" "How did I do that?". What is shown below 'happened' when I was doing a simple move on a file, really. The command was: 'mv Documents AnswerSMTV.odt' (I have scp'ed a file to the server under :~/Documents -- but I didn't have a ~/Documents directory -- thus the need for a move) Note: none of the transfers below involved my other laptop 'zephyr' so I don't know why its hostname popped up. From the looks of the output it looks like a dump of my reverse zone, except that hosts 'nemesis', 'bonza', 'elder' and 'providence' are not on my home lan, they are boxes at my office, so it is something more than that. And, why the directory information scattered within what got spit out? The directories are those in my $HOME directory The 'curiosity-killed-the-cat' side of me just wants to know what process spit this stuff out. Any ideas? (complete dump follows below -- I get there was a timeout involved) 14:09 nirvana:~> mv Documents AnswerSMTV.odt 14:09 nirvana:~> scp AnswerFailed to resolve service 'zephyr [00:11:f5:15:2d:83]' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local': Timeout reached SMTV.odt Failed to resolve service 'zephyr [00:11:f5:15:2d:83]' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local': Timeout reached Failed to resolve service 'zephyr [00:11:f5:15:2d:83]' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local': Timeout reached 192.168.6.101: bonza.rbpllc.com: nemesis.rbpllc.com: 192.168.6.102: bugs/ nirvana: 192.168.6.112: cnf/ nirvana.3111skyline.com: 192.168.6.113: dcrgx: nirvana.local: 192.168.6.118: dcrgx2: pdf/ 192.168.6.121: dcrgx2.3111skyline.com: providence: 192.168.6.131: dcrgx2.local: providence.rankinfirm.com: 192.168.6.14: dcrgx.3111skyline.com: providence.rbpllc.com: 192.168.6.149: Desktop/ public_html/ 192.168.6.15: dev/ rankinfirm.com: 192.168.6.150: doc/ rankin-p35a: 192.168.6.16: dt/ rankin-p35a.3111skyline.com: 192.168.6.18: ecstacy: rbpllc.com: 192.168.6.19: ecstasy: ripper: 192.168.6.2: ecstasy.3111skyline.com: ripper.3111skyline.com: 192.168.6.20: elder: scr/ 192.168.6.24: elder.rbpllc.com: supersff: 66.76.63.60: fonts/ supersff.3111skyline.com: alchemy: ftp: supersff.local: alchemy.3111skyline.com: GNUstep/ suse/ alchemy.local: img/ themes/ AnswerSMTV.odt kidsdell: tmp/ apps/ killerz: trinity: arch/ killerz.3111skyline.com: windows/ archangel: lakehouse: www: archangel.3111skyline.com: lakehouse.3111skyline.com: zephyr: archangel.local: localhost: zephyr.3111skyline.com: arete: mail: zion: arete.3111skyline.com: Mail/ zion.3111skyline.com: bin/ mmedia/ bonza: nemesis: 14:09 nirvana:~> scp AnswerSMTV.odt Got SIGINT, quitting. ^C (I have no clue what was canceled by the ctrl+c, the move completed successfully) The long and short of it -- there were no ill effects. The dump occurred, and things just kept clicking right along... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] ArchLinux in space?
by Dan Vratil 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi, I was surprised when I read today that scientists found a pacman installed on one of Saturn's moons! See yourself: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/features/2010/pac-man-mimas.html This probably makes ArchLinux the furthest installed distro ever! :-) -- --------------------------------- Dan Vrátil vratil(a)progdansoft.com ICQ 249163429 Jabber progdan(a)jabber.cz Tel. +420 732 326 870

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[arch-general] [OT][kde-announce] KDE SC 4.4.2 Released
by Gaurish Sharma 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi, Just wanted to share new version 4.4.2 KDE Upstream is out. Its mainly a bug fix realease and no features are added. All users are expected to update as it would improve over stability of system. -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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[arch-general] /etc/rc.local: "chown user: /dev/sda10" /etc/fstab: "defaults, owner, noauto"
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

/etc/rc.local: "chown user: /dev/sda10" /etc/fstab: "defaults,owner,noauto" Or more accurately: /etc/rc.local: "chown jtwdyp: /dev/disk/by-label/j10_lap-10" I've been allowing only my normal user account to mount 3 such user "owned" partitions in various distros this way {without needing to use sudo} for years. I know that ever since USB devices made static /dev/* lists unusual, the ownership of any partition gets set to root during root. But I've always been able to count on my root script to chown them back, returning ownership to the data owner, if {depending on the distro} I either sourced it in some rc.local file, OR if some debian based distro didn't like rc.local script's I'd just symlink it with something like: ln -s /root/bin/fix_dev /etc/rcS.d/S38fix_dev I only needed to take care that my root script 'chown'ed the partitions AFTER the device names in /dev had been dynamically created. And it worked. I was pleased to note that Arch evidently does think a rc.local is an appropriate place for local initialization stuff to happen. However it's come to my attention that about 5 out of the last 25 times I've booted Arch only 2 of the 3 partitions 'chown'ed in my /root/bin/fix_dev script can be mounted by my user account. (unless I use root account to manualy rerun the /root/bin script...) On the occasions when a user script's attempt to mount the 3rd such partition fails {with an error message telling me that only root can do that} the other two such partitions mount just fine. Is there something special I need to do to get Arch to *_consistently_* respect all three chown commands??? I really dislike the idea of changing the fstab entry from "owner" to "user" even if since the mountpoint is in a subdir of /home/jtwdyp, I could just rely on: cmod 700 {the mount points parent dir} along with the file permisions within the partition itself, to keep the data private. Somehow it just wouldn't feel right to extend the mount permisions to just any user even though this multi-boot linux box is my personal computer that nobody else uses... Recommendations anyone? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6.1-1
by Xavier Chantry 29 Mar '10

29 Mar '10

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Andrea Scarpino <andrea(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> On Friday 26 March 2010 13:57:08 Allan McRae wrote: >>> Upstream bug fix release. >>> >>> Signoff both, >>> Allan >> I got a segfault when I do: >> $ grep -qrl --include "desc" "^pacman$" "/var/lib/pacman/local/" >> >> x86_64 >> >> -- >> Andrea >> > > Same here, not surprisingly. If someone wants to compile with debug > symbols, they'd probably have more of an idea than this: > > $ gdb --args grep -qrl --include "desc" "^pacman$" "/var/lib/pacman/local/" > A very quick look at the git repo : http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=54d55bba41f2ff31682fe6… I just love these easy to browse web interface :)

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[arch-general] preserve db tarballs
by Caleb Cushing 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

when the files like core.db.tar.gz are downloaded they aren't preserved right? is there any way to configure pacman to preserve them? my problem is that I've switched to using wget and that now these are always downloaded... out of date or not. I imagine it's because wget doesn't actually have a file to check because they aren't preserved. I use wget because I throttle the download, I can easily fill my ADSL. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

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[arch-general] Pulseaudio doesn't see the correct sound card.
by "Jérôme M. Berger" 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Hi, I have two "sound cards": one is the integrated sound card on my motherboard and the other is the HDMI output from my video card. The integrated sound works fine with ALSA, but when I tried using pulseaudio, it only sees the HDMI card (according to pactl list). I tried changing /etc/pulse/default.pa: - First, I tried replacing module-udev-detect with module-detect. This resulted in pulse seeing the integrated sound card, but only the S/PDIF output, not the speakers; - Then I tried removing autodetection and using module-alsa-sink directly, but the pulse daemon failed to load the module. Anybody knows how I can get pulse to see my alsa sound card? Thanks, Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger(a)jabber.fr

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[arch-general] The libgmp update
by Hilton Medeiros 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Hello, just to confirm, all the packages linked against the new libgmp should follow 'coreutils' example and use 'gmp>=5.0', right? I just saw that gnunet didn't. Cheers, Hilton

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