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[arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....
by Ananda Samaddar 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

Further to my previous email a while back I've started work on some proposals that I'd like to pitch to the Arch community and the powers that be. They aren't finished yet but should be soon. The thing is I'm not really aware of the 'chain of command' in Arch. Aaron Griffin, are you the 'benevolent dictator' and do you have the final say? The reason I'm asking is I want to know to whom I address my proposals when they are finished. For example I'll probably be proposing some admin changes, nothing too sweeping but just some things that could be done to implement better security in Arch. For the mean time I've created the IRC channel #archlinux-security on Freenode. Anyone is free to hang out there to discuss security in Arch and how we (emphasis on the we, i.e. the community) can make things better. My IRC nick is psychedelicious, I was previously using a different nick based on a Funkadelic album released in 1971. I won't be on there 24x7 but will be online as much as possible. I'd particularly like to see people on that channel interesting in volunteering to create a Security Response Team for our distro! Also I'm aware I've posted under several different email addresses. After toying with several free providers I decided to stop being a cheapskate and get my own domain so this is my canonical email address now. regards, Ananda Samaddar

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[arch-general] HTML5, Youtube and chromium-browser
by Gaurish Sharma 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

Hi, I tried installing following packages on x86_64 [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32085 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31368 But it didn't work. I get this: http://www.imagebam.com/image/708acc72799349 Anyone managed to get youtube videos working in HTML5/h.264 format on chromium browser? -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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Re: [arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Roberto Malinverni 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

> >> jue, mar 18, 2010 at 06:07:20 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan dijo: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm experiencing this problem from quite a long time. But > >> I don't know why. > >> > >> I have a LG DVD Writer. It supports writing and reading DVD-R DVD+R > >> DVD-RW DVD+RW, all CDs and some other DVD flavors I don't remember. > >> > >> I tried a Fedora boot DVD at boot, it worked. But inside arch (it > >> was the same problem with fedora), it won't work. > >> > >> I don't think this needs any special driver because previously I'd > >> never configured a special driver for that. > >> > >> CD's work fine though. > > > > it's sata or ide? when i started using linux i had to change the 40 > > "strings" ide cable to one of 80, due to troubles while > > reading/writing > > dvds... > > > > hope this helps :) > > > > Its connected by IDE now. I have a SATA converter with me > though. Should > I use that for my drive ? Nope. If it is a ide device, just check that your ide cable is of the type with 80 conductors. Take a look at the images here, to see the difference between a 40 and a 80 conductor cable (both have 40 pin). My NEC DVDRW refused to work without such a cable. Roberto -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto.

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Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
by Jonathan Brown 20 Mar '10

20 Mar '10

Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much. Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again. ----- Original Message ---- From: Sam Harada <sam(a)peasantoid.org> To: Jonathan Brown <jbssfl(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 1:22:18 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:26:12AM -0700, Jonathan Brown wrote: > I am a NOC technician at a data center- > > I will install it for you if you like- > > We have some pretty good deals on servers > > email sdodman(a)sagonet.com > and tell him what kind of dedicated server you are looking for and he'll give you a good deal- > Be sure to tell him that Jon B. recommended you contact him and that I said I will install Arch Linux on the server and that there won't be any extra charge to install that OS > > Bear in mind, we do try to help our unmanaged dedicated server customers as much as possible with software issues etc and anything else that we can up to a point (meaning if it gets intensive we will usually have to charge ATS etc), but we don't really support Arch, and I'm the only one there with experience with Arch.. so it would truly be unmanaged, unless you happen to catch me as your support technician when you open a support ticket.. > > That being said - get a dedicated server from us and I'll gladly throw Arch on there for ya! (I honestly think out of our 5000+ servers, there is not ONE with Arch .. lol) You probably should have responded to arch-general(a)archlinux.org rather than my address. Either that or you're spamming me. Please don't. Protip: Make your email client respect the Reply-To header.

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[arch-general] fdisk vs cfdisk... And is my drive borked or what?
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

I'm new to Arch. I recently dumped a very bloated Sabayon installation which left me enough room on my laptop for two other distros... I went with PCLinuxOS AND Arch because both sounded like reinstalling from scratch wasn't a twice a year thing... Actually I tried installing PCLinuxOS on a usb drive before I dumped Sabayon. But something went wrong in the first attempt when the installer formatted the new PCLinuxOS root partition on /dev/sda (as it called my usb drive) and promptly wrote the partition table to /dev/hdb (as it called my laptop's internal drive... ARGH! Fortunately after a send attempt succeeded in installing to usb drive succeeded some tool called "testdisk: was able to restore my laptop's partition table. And every thing worked again... (That was the last time I'll ever let an installer format anything. Strictly pre-partition and pre-mkfs from now on...) Any way I only mention it because When I got around to installing Arch on one of the two partitions I recovered from Sabayon, I skipped the installation step of letting cfdisk touch my partitions and simply selected the partition I previously prepared for it with mkfs.ext3. But later as working my way through the beginners guide in the wiki, the clear explanation of why distro's like to use UUID instead of /dev/Xdx# sold me on using persistent (BUT HUMAN READABLE!!!) entries like: "/dev/disk/by-label/Arch_lap-7" & "/dev/disk/by-label/SWP_lap-12" Especially since there was a wealth of how-to info right there in the wiki... But in the process I happened to do an: fdisk /dev/sda Which complained about a dos compatibility flag and that I should change the display/entry units to sectors. This showed me a small bit of unused space above my last logical partition (/dev/sda12)... Anyway I decided to look at it with cfdisk (which I haven't used in years but remembered as being easier to work with than fdisk...) But all I got from cfdisk was. => FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk => Press any key to exit cfdisk Which considering the recent "testdisk" repair, frightened be a bit. But it also frustrated me. Especially since fdisk didn't show anything like that... Unless maybe: When "cfdisk /dev/sda" says "partition 3:" is it counting from 0? That is, does it mean "/dev/sda4" ??? Because that's my extended partition... And a close look at the ending cylinder/sector of /dev/sda4 is a slightly higher number than it reports the total cylinders/sectors to be... I've pasted both the sector and cylinder views of my part table below, Is this anything I should be worried about??? Is there a way to fix this without destroying everything in the extended partition??? (That's a LOT of backing up to dvd, and I don't have room anyplace else...) -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders, total 234441648 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x4573c650 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 63 55456379 27728158+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 55456380 68372639 6458130 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda3 68372640 70332569 979965 83 Linux /dev/sda4 70332570 234452609 82060020 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 70332633 103538924 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda6 103538988 136745279 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda7 136745343 169951634 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda8 169951698 175815359 2931831 83 Linux /dev/sda9 175815423 183622949 3903763+ 83 Linux /dev/sda10 183623013 195334334 5855661 83 Linux /dev/sda11 195334398 232444484 18555043+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 232444548 234436544 995998+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x4573c650 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 3452 27728158+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 3453 4256 6458130 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda3 4257 4378 979965 83 Linux /dev/sda4 4379 14594 82060020 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 4379 6445 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda6 6446 8512 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda7 8513 10579 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda8 10580 10944 2931831 83 Linux /dev/sda9 10945 11430 3903763+ 83 Linux /dev/sda10 11431 12159 5855661 83 Linux /dev/sda11 12160 14469 18555043+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 14470 14593 995998+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

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[arch-general] Open Konsole Here ???
by Nilesh Govindarajan 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

KDE used to have an "Open Konsole Here" option as it appears in Nautilus when you install nautilus-open-terminal. Where's it vanished ? Or I'm missing some addon ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site& Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] [OT] ArchLinux on uncyclopedia
by Gaurish Sharma 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, Sharing ArchLinux's article on uncyclopedia[1]. Its awefully funny. I almost fell from my chair laughing. Here is a small part of it: "The almighty Judd has succeeded in making Archlinux the only Linux distribution which combines all the worst features Slackware and Gentoo have to offer. Archlinux is mighty fast, only runing on computers with a certain leetness factor (codenamed 686+), and features a package manager with an extremely funny name: pacman. When used with a large pill, Pacman is also a very valuable tool for devouring ghosts." Also, checkout the modified Wallpaper http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iaFx0ymozoI/SPWLes9mLOI/AAAAAAAAAPE/B4iXp3vdw30/s800/… Read full [1] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Archlinux -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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Re: [arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Roberto Malinverni 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

> ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:20:21 +0530 > From: Nilesh Govindarajan <lists(a)itech7.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] DVD's won't read > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <4BA259CD.8000200(a)itech7.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > My drive has in total only 40 pins. How an 80 pin connector would fit > into it ? > Sorry, I forgot to post the link: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html All ide devices have only 40 pin, but ide cables come in two flavour, one with 40 pin /40 connectors, the other with 40 pin /80 connectors. They fit both with every ide device, but some device works correctly only with the 40/80 type of cable. Roberto -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto.

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[arch-general] patch command not working?
by Preston C. 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

When I try to use the 'patch' command it tells me "command not found"? Yet, there is an entire man page on this command. Any reason for this? Preston

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[arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
by Nilesh Govindarajan 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, Do you know some dedicated server / VPS provider (unmanaged), who supports Arch Linux, with good service and reasonable rates ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] New versioned-dep libgl on xorg-server
by Ng Oon-Ee 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, I saw this mentioned in the forums as well, but it was basically a 'wait for new version' advise given. Latest xorg-server in [testing] (1.7.6-1) has a versioned dep on libgl (libgl>=7.7.0.901). I'm sure there's reasons for this, since as I recall versioned deps are used sparingly if at all. I use nvidia-utils-beta however, and it only provides libgl (no specific version). nvidia-utils from [extra] is the same. Is it safe to merely make nvidia-utils-beta provide libgl=7.7.0.901, and will this be done with the nvidia-utils backage from [extra]?

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[arch-general] [signoff] mdadm-3.1.2-2
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

This is a bugfix/stability release over 3.1.1. Significant changes are: - The default metadata has change again (sorry about that). It is now v1.2 and will hopefully stay that way. It turned out there with boot-block issues with v1.1 which make it unsuitable for a default, though in many cases it is still suitable to use. - Stopping a container is not permitted when members are still active - Add 'homehost' to the valid words for the "AUTO" config file line. When followed by "-all", this causes mdadm to auto-assemble any array belonging to this host, but not auto-assemble anything else. - Fix some bugs with "--grow --chunksize=" for changing chunksize. - VAR_RUN can be easily changed at compile time just like ALT_RUN. This gives distros more flexability in how to manage the pid and sock files that mdmon needs. - Various mdmon fixes - Alway make bitmap 4K-aligned if at all possible. - If mdadm.conf lists arrays which have inter-dependencies, the previously had to be listed in the "right" order. Now any order should work. - Fix --force assembly of v1.x arrays which are in the process of recovering. - Add section on 'scrubbing' to 'md' man page. - Various command-line-option parsing improvements. - ... and lots of other bug fixes. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] mdadm-3.1.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

This is a bugfix/stability release over 3.1.1. Significant changes are: - The default metadata has change again (sorry about that). It is now v1.2 and will hopefully stay that way. It turned out there with boot-block issues with v1.1 which make it unsuitable for a default, though in many cases it is still suitable to use. - Stopping a container is not permitted when members are still active - Add 'homehost' to the valid words for the "AUTO" config file line. When followed by "-all", this causes mdadm to auto-assemble any array belonging to this host, but not auto-assemble anything else. - Fix some bugs with "--grow --chunksize=" for changing chunksize. - VAR_RUN can be easily changed at compile time just like ALT_RUN. This gives distros more flexability in how to manage the pid and sock files that mdmon needs. - Various mdmon fixes - Alway make bitmap 4K-aligned if at all possible. - If mdadm.conf lists arrays which have inter-dependencies, the previously had to be listed in the "right" order. Now any order should work. - Fix --force assembly of v1.x arrays which are in the process of recovering. - Add section on 'scrubbing' to 'md' man page. - Various command-line-option parsing improvements. - ... and lots of other bug fixes. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Package signing (was: Arch Linux security is still poor)
by Linas 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I had already this email draft in my head, but Ananda 'Arch Linux security is still poor' thread, on which the point was also brought up, moved me to really write it. First off, there's an implicit level of trust on the package software, no matter which OS you use. When using Windows, you trust in Microsoft, when using Mac OS, you trust in Apple, when using a Linux distro, you trust the packagers and upstream. Either you do that or trust just whatever came installed and not install anything ever (thus not patching to new vulnerabilities). The problem with Arch current packaging system is not that you must trust people able to write in core not to add a rm -rf / (to name the classical 'attack') nor that you didn't install arch with an infected media. The problem is that every time you do pacman -Syu, you must blindly trust that your dns, network, and mirror are reliable, too. The packages are verified with a md5 from the server list, but should you update from a compromised mirror (or impersonated, eg. arp poisoning, dns spoofing, bofh proxy operator...) you have lost. A pacman -Syu from an open wifi might be enough. A later update may 'clean' it, so you may not even notice that you were once compromised. There are several ways to close the gap: *Always download the package list from ftp.archlinux.org It's the easier solution, but it only protects against the mirror operator. Moreover, it increases load on that server and makes it a single point of failure. *Package lists are signed from a trusted master key. There may be up to a key per repo. Easy to provide, allows backward compatibility. *Packages are automatically signed by ftp.archlinux.org before distributing them. Removes the dependancy over the package list. Packages can be shared securely (eg. getting a downgrade for an untrusted user). *Each developer signs its own packages prior to uploading. Each repository key signs the keys of the developers with write access. Users can blacklist or trust independent developers. Needless to say, the last solution is the one I like most. However, being more complete, it also means more work. :) The package signing could be a simple text file with filenames and hashes (preferably something more secure than md5) signed with gpg, or could be expanded if more fields are needed. Do you think this is a good idea? Which solution do you prefer? And most important, what would be needed to reach there? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[arch-general] howto get kde3 to appear as a session in kdm greeter?
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, In Arch, how do I make kde3 appear as a choice in the kdm greeter? I thought I just had to add a kde.desktop launching /opt/kde/bin/startkde in /usr/share/xsessions, but that didn't do it. What's the trick? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] [signoff] dmraid-1.0.0rc16-3
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

HI, readded static dmraid again to fix: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18348 please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I still have kde3 installed primarily because the apps konqueror (a real konqueror) kwrite, kate, etc. in kde3 are much lighter to run in fluxbox or other wm's than the kde4 apps and the kde3 apps don't spew reams of text to your xterm when they run. Are there any tips or trick to keeping these apps viable a bit longer? If so, how? The error I get is probably just a sym link issue: 13:47 archangel:~> /opt/kde/bin/konqueror --profile filemanagement /opt/kde/bin/konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I then start the kde4 version and suddenly I have 5,000 lines of crap on my xterm: 17:10 archangel:~> konqueror --profile filemanagement konqueror(20906)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::checkDatabase: We have no database.... launching kdeinit konqueror(20906)/kdecore (kdelibs) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) klauncher(20918)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherT20918.slave-socket" kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::processRequestReturn: "/usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4" (pid 20924) up and running. kbuildsycoca4 running... kbuildsycoca4(20924)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::checkTimestamps: checking file timestamps kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::checkDirTimestamps: timestamp changed: "/usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/" kbuildsycoca4(20924) kdemain: Reusing existing ksycoca kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::recreate: Recreating ksycoca file ("/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4", version 162) kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "okularGenerator.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-applet.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kwineffect.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "solidpowermanager.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-packagestructure.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kopeteplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "krfb-framebuffer.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "ktexteditor_loadsavefiltercheckplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kpropertiesdialogplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kcmoduleinit.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kateplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "dbustexttospeech.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kregexpeditor.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "solidremotecontrolmanager.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "korganizerpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-containment.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "krdc_plugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kompareviewpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "screensaver.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kerfufflePlugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "thumbcreator.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-scriptengine.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kdedmodule.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kmediaplayer.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "findpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-wallpaper.desktop" <big snip> konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/ss" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/scripts" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/dcrsig" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/img" konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorw20906.slave-socket" konqueror(20906)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave "thumbnail" for KUrl("thumbnail:/home/david/img") konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorP20906.slave-socket" klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::requestSlave: KLauncher: launching new slave "kio_thumbnail" with protocol= "thumbnail" args= ("thumbnail", "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherT20918.slave-socket", "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorP20906.slave-socket") kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_thumbnail.so klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::processRequestReturn: "kio_thumbnail" (pid 20933) up and running. kio_thumbnail(20933)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4" kio_thumbnail(20933)/kdecore (trader) KMimeTypeTrader::query: query for mimeType "text/plain" , "ThumbCreator" : returning 1 offers konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOJob) KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch: error 104 "Cannot create thumbnail for directory" If possible, I would very much like to have the kde3 versions running. Can I just sym link to the latest libpng? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Thunderbird 3 annoyance
by David Rosenstrauch 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I'm having a little annoyance with TBird 3, and was wondering if anyone was experiencing the same thing and/or had a workaround. I have a large tree of folders in TBird, from 2 different IMAP accounts. So I use the "Unread Folders" view, in conjunction with the mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new config setting. Problem is that since the upgrade to TBird 3, when TBird grabs new email, it automatically selects a different folder in the left ("Unread Folders") pane. This is really irritating. I really want TBird to just stay on the folder I've selected - no matter whether it gets new email or not. Anyone know how to fix this? Is there some magic new config setting for this? I tried googling on this, but it's hard to find good search terms to describe the problem. Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Nilesh Govindarajan 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hi, I'm experiencing this problem from quite a long time. But I don't know why. I have a LG DVD Writer. It supports writing and reading DVD-R DVD+R DVD-RW DVD+RW, all CDs and some other DVD flavors I don't remember. I tried a Fedora boot DVD at boot, it worked. But inside arch (it was the same problem with fedora), it won't work. I don't think this needs any special driver because previously I'd never configured a special driver for that. CD's work fine though. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] kernel26 2.6.32.10-1 Boot Failure at initrd/initramfs
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I just attempted an update which installed kernel26 2.6.32.10-1 on my x86_64 box. After the update, the box failed to boot and the boot process stopped at the initrd/initramfs. (I have the slash because I can't remember the exact init----) But it was very early in the boot process. I have checked logs and nothing for this boot attempt was written to the logs. I suspect it was too early in the boot process for logging to be enabled. I have never tried to recover from a failed arch boot before. What's the proper way. Boot with the install cd and chroot your install and either downgrade to the last kernel or try mkinitcpio again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] pdftk - almost build but died - need help figuring out if I can find a work-around
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I need pdftk for a script I use that does fax processing. I ran into this problem 6-7 months ago, but still had another server with pdftk on it so it wasn't critical. Now, I need to solve it. Currently pdftk in AUR is out of date due to it a dependency of gcc-gcj requiring it to be built against gcc-4.3. The building gcc-4.3 and then gcc-gcj part of the pdftk build goes fine (takes forever, but goes fine). The build seems to crater on a java-lib issue. Here is the actual error with a few lines of context: patching file pdftk/Makefile.Base patching file java_libs/com/lowagie/text/pdf/PdfEncryption.java patching file java_libs/Makefile make -C ../java_libs make[1]: Entering directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs' make -C "/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text"; make[2]: Entering directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text' gcj -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -w --encoding=UTF-8 --classpath="/usr/share/java/libgcj-4.3.jar:/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs" -c Anchor.java -o Anchor.o Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.9) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}} at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.9) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.9) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.9) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.9) make[2]: *** [Anchor.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text' make[1]: *** [itext] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs' make: *** [java_libs] Error 2 The problem is I am no good at figuring out what this is telling me I need to do to fix it. I know there was an exception thrown in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ........ what I don't know is whether this is telling me there is a javalib version mismatch or something similar and whether this is something I might work around by loading/building some alternative java package, etc.. If you have any idea what is going on here, please pass along a pointer or two. If this is just one of those areas where I'm screwed and there isn't a way around it -- well knowing that would be helpful too. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Abort forced filesystem check on boot
by Rorschach 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi, I have written a small patch for rc.sysinit which gives the user the ability to abort a forced filesystem check with pressing the escape-key. I haven't found another feature-request in the bugtracker for this so I opened one: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18400 . What do you think about it?

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[arch-general] HAL depreciation
by Damjan Georgievski 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Does anyone know how much of HAL is needed in ArchLinux these days? I'm asking because I've learned that both udev and HAL configure the keymap of input devices nowdays and I wonder what other former HAL features are already implemented in udev. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates
by Denis Kobozev 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi archers, It has been repeated a lot of times that doing piecemeal updates with pacman -Sy pkgname is not a very good idea. What about ignoring packages? Is it as dangerous? And a more general question: is it even theoretically possible to have a bleeding edge distro with piecemeal updates and with no required manual intervention during updates or is it just a pipe dream? Best, Denis.

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[arch-general] Arch is ummnn different: my 1st installation: tried to install xfce...OOPS!
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hello, I've been using various Linux distros for a while now. I just decided to give Arch Linux a try. But I'm a little bit lost. I'm used to distros like Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, etc... Where I don't need to personally understand what order I need to install which packages to get at least one GUI desktop up & running... The install itself went ok. But I needed to add a few things. First I used the list of typical tasks for pacman from the installation guide, to figure out how to look for a package and install it with pacman. I installed mc and vim without a problem. Then I thought it would be nice if I could get a desktop up. I did a: pacman -Si xfce|less and looked for a package that might get me to a minimal desktop I could work with. I thought maybe xfdesktop... pacman -S xfdesktop It wanted (I think) 26 packages to satisfy the dependencies... Sounded low to me but what do I know? I figured the next step would be to ask for help (or a good step by step how-to) But sooner or later I was going to want xfce so I said yes... I didn't get any errors until the last package (xfdesktop itself) Then there was an error with a line number (oops I didn't write it down) And I think something about gtk & icons, (something not existing...) <sigh> {If I'd figured out how to activate GPM I'd have pasted the error into a text file so that I could accurately report what it said.} When pacman reports an error, listing just one line number like that, does it stop processing. Or does the fact that there was only one error (about icons I think) mean that everything else in the package installed successfully??? More to the point: Will I need to figure out how to uninstall xfdesktop to resolve the error? Could some nice Arch user point me at enough step by step instructions so that I can get enough of a gui up to use a browser like firefox so I can try to find solutions via the web while Arch is actually running??? Please! -- | ^^^ ^^^ | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> | ' `

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