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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pciutils-3.1.6-1
by Tobias Powalowski 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

Am Samstag 30 Januar 2010 schrieb Allan McRae: > On 27/01/10 16:18, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > Hi > > bump to latest version. > > > > Please signoff both arches. > > Signoff i686. > Allan > anyone for x86_64? -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.7-1
by Tobias Powalowski 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

Hi guys, bump to latest bugfix version. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] kernel26-2.6.32.6-1 updates breaks Compiz?
by David C. Rankin 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

Guys, After updates today on my x86_64 box from testing, including kernel26-2.6.32.6-1, Compiz is broken. It attempts to start, but then all windows are left without any decorations and keyboard input is disabled on kde4. The first time I tried, the plasma panel died leaving me with no way to get kwin back other than finding a black spot on the desktop and logging out. Next attempt, plasma panel stayed with me and changing back and forth from kwin to compiz and back is easily done with fusion-icon. (I put a shortcut on my desktop to 'kwin --replace &' just in case) Dunno what is happening here. All was OK before updates today. pacman.log is at: www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/pacman.log Looks like it is another jpg/png library issue: 20:35 alchemy:~> fusion-icon * Detected Session: kde * Searching for installed applications... * No GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap with direct rendering context ... present with indirect rendering, exporting: LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 * Using the GTK Interface * KWin is already running * Setting window manager to Compiz ... executing: compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints --indirect-rendering ccp --indirect-rendering WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported! This is an application bug! compiz: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/compiz/libpng.so: undefined symbol: png_check_sig -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] One more tiny patch that should bring a massive performance boost :D
by Evangelos Foutras 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

Hello, During the recent libpng/libjpeg rebuilds, one thing that I noticed is that (big) Todo lists are really slow to load. Turns out that the current code is doing tons of simple queries (4 per package) which, although are quick to execute on the database server, take a considerable ammount of time to make. Thankfully, Django provides a mechanism to fetch all needed data in one go, which proved to be much faster during my testing. :) (If I should be sending these to a developer instead of this mailing list, please let me know.)

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
by Uli Armbruster 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

Just some words from my point of view: Like some of you guys - most of you I guess.. - I don't really like Jörg's way to articulate. He has his arguments, which are really good ones, but it always becomes a discussion like this. I saw this in the german Ubuntu forums, before I switched to Archlinux. But he really makes me feel like he loves his software and wants to maintain it as active as possible, so it always stays free of known bugs and is as well written as he is able to. I'm no real coder, so I cannot confirm that, but I trust him in this point. Maybe we deal here with a guy, who isn't really good in expressing himself in writing. I have this problem as well, I'm a much better talker than writer, when I write stuff, people often misunderstand me. Maybe it's the same with Jörg (although his english is VERY good!). But is this really an argument wether to use someone's software or not? I mean, for example, many people think RMS is a real idiot, but still they use his utils, because they are good software. There could be thousands of other examples. Are the devs of Firefox nice guys? Who gives a shit about that? Nobody, right, because nobody needs to talk to them about such issues Jörg always has to discuss about. What I want to say is, don't focus on Jörg's writing style or the way he articulates, focus on the software and the license issues. And Jörg, PLEASE do yourself a favor and stay on topic, the people here want to be sure if it's legal to use your software, so provide every information you are able to provide and don't always just write stuff like "I have a personal email of ..." (too lazy right now to find your exact quote, this thread is very long already ;-) ) You want Arch to use cdrtools in its official repos? So do what has to be done. If Allan, a VERY important Arch Dev, wants something specific, you should provide everything you can. It doesn't help you at all to play a little crybaby with this whole "They stole my software" (again, no real quote) etc. I'd love to see cdrtools in Arch, simply because it's really superior to cdrkit. If it's illegal to provide it in the repos, we still have the AUR, but the repos are official, the AUR is not, so if it's possible, having it in the repos would be preferable. Hope to see this discussion come to a good end for both sides ... Yes I'm a dreamer ;-) Greetz Army

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[arch-general] ca-cf keyboard layout in hal
by Sébastien Leblanc 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

I cannot find the "cf" variant in the ca layout (canadian french) in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst. What happened with it? I am trying to use a USB keyboard on my laptop, however it gets set as US instead of ca-cf. I check the file 10-keymap.fdi in /etc/hal/fdi/policy, but when I put ca as layout and cf as variant, my keyboard does not respond when I plug it in. Any other layout (that exists) works. Did Xorg remove the ca-cf layout? Sébastien Leblanc

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[arch-general] how to Map shortcut keys in KDE4.3 to lunch custom Applications?
by Gaurish Sharma 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

Hi All, I am using KDE 4.3 Desktop on Archlinux 64bit. I have query regarding Custom keyboard shortcuts. I have few extra hotkeys on my keyboard(Microsoft Basic wired Keyboard 500). They keys have already mapped and few of them work too. "Play" does play/pause in amarok. However few keys do not work. I want to map these these to do some actions. like I want the calc hotkey to launch a application speedcrunch. I think this has something to with Khotkeys configration, But I haven't been able to figure out how exactly to configure khotkeys due to lack of documentation. So I need your help, How to map Custom Keyboard Shortcuts to launch custom Application on KDE4.3? Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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[arch-general] Little problems with arch
by Andrea Crotti 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

I have a little dell 10 with archlinux. Unfortunately the audio and 3d are not really working, I tried hard some time ago but with no luck, anyway other problems are more annoying. - time getting crazy Every time I reboot this little machine the date is set somehow randomly. Any idea of what could that be? Maybe the battery that should keep it up is not working (I think is an OS issue though)?? - screensaver I use xfce but I installed quite a lot of stuff from gnome, but I never asked for the stupid gnome-screensaver to start at every boot, and I don't find how to disable it. My daemons are only those: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- DAEMONS=(syslog-ng network netfs crond acpid sshd hal bluetooth alsa rsyncd cpufreqd wicd cups fam) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- - network devices with random name I had some troubles with the wireless card but then it worked smoothly with the proprietary "broadcom-wl" driver, the only problems is that sometimes eth0 = lan, eth1 = wireless and sometimes is the opposite and I don't understand why. This also happens with normal reboots. - no packages to update This is quite strange, sometimes I do a "pacman -Suy" and I loop up to date, but if I change the first mirror just editing mirrorlist I'm not up to date anymore and it starts updating. What does that mean? Not all the mirrors are on sync? Could it be related somehow to my problem with the date (shouldn't be though)?

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[arch-general] Laptop reboots instead of resume from suspend
by Dave Morgan 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

I'm using an Inspiron 1720, GeForce 8600M GT, Arch i686. If I update to any kernel after 2.6.31.6-1 then the laptop reboots from suspend or hibernate. According to pm-suspend.log the suspend was fine and there are n problems in the other logs. It just reboots. Anyone else seen this, or any suggestions for a fix? -- Dave.

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[arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

I know this is a going to be a probably tiresome discussion revived but I'd like to get this over with. I've been meaning to do it for a while now. My issue is that the cdrtools substitute cdrkit that Arch currently officially provides is not actively developed (current to last stable was around a year) and is technically inferior to cdrtools. cdrkit still does not generate proper iso-level-3 file systems and has trouble with big file support. This makes proper blu-ray creation hard. My upstream bug report on their mailing list was completely ignored, for example [1]. I request using the original cdrtools in place of cdrkit. I know that it actually was that way once but it was changed due to uncertainty about licensing issues. It appears that these issues are now solved with the conclusion that there are non while cdrkit is actually the offender. I'm aware that I can get cdrtools from AUR. Even then, cdrkit uses "replaces" and that spells "don't use cdrtools" for me. We should not be using broken software in Arch when there are better alternatives available just because of FUD about the licensing. Let the fight begin. [1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debburn-devel/2009-November/000687… -- Sven-Hendrik

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[arch-general] ndesk-dbus 0.6.0 bugfix
by Andrea Fagiani 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

Bug #377672 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ndesk-dbus/+bug/377672> I stumbled upon this while trying to suspend my laptop using Gnome-DO's Gnome-session plugin. It may also cause problems with other C# apps. There's a quick fix for this in the first post of the launchpad's bug report : --- ndesk-dbus-0.6.0.orig/src/TypeImplementer.cs 2007-10-11 20:01:11.000000000 +0000 +++ ndesk-dbus-0.6.0/src/TypeImplementer.cs 2010-01-29 18:11:32.000000000 +0000 @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ namespace NDesk.DBus InitHack (); - TypeBuilder typeB = modB.DefineType (declType.Name + "Proxy", TypeAttributes.Class | TypeAttributes.Public, typeof (BusObject)); + TypeBuilder typeB = modB.DefineType (declType.FullName + "Proxy", TypeAttributes.Class | TypeAttributes.Public, typeof (BusObject)); Implement (typeB, declType); Might want to add this quick fix to the package in extra.

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Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] PKGBUILD for python-numpy, orphaned and out-of-date
by Angel Velásquez 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Puneeth Chaganti <punchagan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Robson Peixoto <robsonpeixoto(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Please, >> add gcc-fortran in makedepends > > Sorry, missed it. > > thanks > punchagan > Oh I used to maintain numpy when it was in [community] (dsa used to maintain it first, then me, then him) now, this is an important package, if some dev want to maintain it, I could help (or I must say we?) but definetively this package belongs to [extra]) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com

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[arch-general] kernel26-lts won't install
by Nilesh Govindarajan 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

I tried installing kernel26-lts. It fails some dependency - resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "udev-compat>=147", a dependency of "kernel26-lts" :: the following package(s) cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: kernel26-lts Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [Y/n] -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] Bluetooth headphone
by Manne Merak 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

Hi, I have a mono bluetooth headphone dongle thing that I got paired using the new KDE4 bluetooth manager (the guys really did a great job on this I might add). I added entries in ~/.asoundrc and can play sound files to it using "aplay -D <device>". Now, how do I get other apps to see it? I dont see it as a device or channel in the mixer? Manne

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[arch-general] KDE 4.3 no power functions ?
by Nilesh Govindarajan 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

I recently installed KDE 4.3.4 The Leave section in the menu doesn't have power functions like shutdown and restart. How to solve this ? Also GTK apps are appearing very ugly, any suggestions ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] Black screen after "waiting for udev uevents to be processed"
by Xianwen Chen 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

Hello friends, Starting from late Dec., my laptop goes black screen after "waiting for udev uevents to be processed", after updating kernel to 2.26.32.*. How can I solve the problem? Regards, Wen

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] libcap-2.19-1
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

On 01/28/2010 02:22 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 21/01/10 22:22, Ronald van Haren wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Allan McRae<allan(a)archlinux.org> >> wrote: >>> Upstream update. No changes of note... >>> >>> Signoff both, >>> Allan >>> >> >> samba/proftpd still work here. signoff x86_64 >> > > Do I hear an i686? > no issues with "ls" and "ntp". Unofficial sign-off i686 and x86_64. -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] First Time Arch w/ Gnome Installed
by Carlos Williams 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

This is my 1st time ever installing Arch Linux with GDM / Gnome desktop environment. I did not install 'gnome-extra' package because I don't want all the useless applications. I prefer to only install what I need. I am have been using an Ubuntu 10.4 workstations and got everything working on my new Arch system. It is very fast even installed the latest nVidia drivers from their site. My only issue I have is the fonts look horrible. I did go to 'System > Preferences > Appearance > Fonts tab' and set the fonts to 'Sub Pixel Smoothing' for LCD's but I am missing the smoothness and glossiness (Anti Aliasing) that Ubuntu had. My Arch fonts still look very rough and 1993'ish. I don't know what I can do to make my Gnome / Desktop environment appear more polished and cleaner. Do you guys have any suggestions? Do I need a specific WM or special decorative package? I work a lot on my workstation and need it to be pleasing to the eyes. The fonts I have don't make my system look very appealing. I know it sounds stupid but I really like my DE to be pleasing on my eyes since I use if for hours at a time... Thanks for any help!

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
by Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Jan de Groot wrote: >It seems that GPL and CDDL have some conflicting paragraphs, so even if >CDDL allows linking to GPL with this exception, GPL doesn't allow the >other way around. I am not sure where you have this idea from.... The CDDL allows to combine CDDL code with other code and the GPL permits to link any GPLv2 program against any independent library under any license. Note that the GPL is an asymmetric license that disallows code based on GPLd software but if a program _uses_ a library, the library definitely is not based on the program code that just uses the library code. The common understanding of the laywers in Germany and the USA on what's happening when a program links against a library is that this creates a so called "collective work" which is not a derived work. The GPL definitely allows such collective works. See page 114 ff. in: http://www.rosenlaw.com/Rosen_Ch06.pdf Lawrence Rosen is the legal advisor of the OpenSource Initiative opensource.org. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js(a)cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling(a)fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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[arch-general] Software RAID w/ 4 Drives Fails
by Carlos Williams 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

I am successfully able to install Arch Linux with 3 drives in a RAID5 array on Arch Linux using: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 Now when I attempt the install with 4 physical disks and add the same command above with just attaching /dev/sdd2 and changing the # of devices from 3 to 4, I get a failure. When I reboot the system I lose keyboard and it asks me to enter a run level. Obviously I can't troubleshoot more because I have no keyboard. What command should I use to create a RAID5 with more disk space (no hot spare) using 4 drives? My commands and install method work perfect with 3 drives but 4 and the system crashes upon reboot. Any tips?

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.6-1
by Tobias Powalowski 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Hi guys, bump to latest bugfix version. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] pciutils-3.1.6-1
by Tobias Powalowski 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Hi bump to latest version. Please signoff both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] List of community packages deleted/moved and still on FTP
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

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[arch-general] PulseAudio
by Xavier Chantry 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > If you want to read up on the different sound components, just do a > google search. There's tons of articles out there, some very good, > mostly a bit crap. Lennart Pottering (dev for Pulse) has a > particularly good one I recall. Most on Arch wouldn't like his > conclusions though. > I collected some article/blogs about pulseaudio, in case anyone is interested. 1) PA detractor (both articles have been slashdotted) http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2007/05/sorry-state-of-sound-in-linux.html http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sor… 2) PA defenders interview of Lennart Poettering (PA dev at redhat) http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/05/sound-of-fedora-11.html his blog : http://0pointer.de/blog/projects Many info about PA there, just one example : http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/guide-to-sound-apis.html blog of colin guthr (another PA dev) : http://colin.guthr.ie/tag/pulseaudio/ Also many interesting articles, for example : http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/08/sound-on-linux-anti-fud-calm-certainty-and-co… (answer to 1)) http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/08/sound-on-linux-is-confusing-defuzzing-part-1-… http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/08/sound-on-linux-is-confusing-defuzzing-part-2-… ------------------ If you are just interested about getting PA working, and not about the how and why, you should probably just read the following wiki, instead of all the links above : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

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[arch-general] alsa-tools
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

Is there any good reason why alsa-tools is not available from core or extra and only (in bits and pieces) from AUR ? Tools like envy24ctl or hdspmixer are really not an option when you use one of the soundcards they are meant to control. You need them for things to work at all. Any other distros I know would put them in the equivalent of core. Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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