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[arch-general] perl 5.10.1-3 broken ?
by wahjava.ml＠gmail.com 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

Hi everyone, I've noticed that the recent perl update (5.10.1-3) has not installed any PODs which are required by 'perldoc' for displaying documentation. Are PODs moved to some different package ? #v+ % pacman -Ql perl |fgrep .pod % pacman -Q perl perl 5.10.1-3 #v- Thanks in advance Ashish SHUKLA -- California, n.: From Latin "calor", meaning "heat" (as in English "calorie" or Spanish "caliente"); and "fornia'" for "sexual intercourse" or "fornication." Hence: Tierra de California, "the land of hot sex." -- Ed Moran

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[arch-general] nut package - no docs or cgi interface??
by David C. Rankin 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

Listmates, Any reason that the nut package (network ups tools) isn't being packaged with the documentation (release notes, upgrade notes, etc.) or the web interface (cgi/html) files? Just curious? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] xfsprogs-3.0.3-1
by Tobias Powalowski 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

Am Samstag 12 September 2009 schrieb Dan McGee: > On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Am Montag 07 September 2009 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: > >> Hi > >> bump to latest version, please signoff both arches. > >> > >> greetings > >> tpowa > > > > bump anyone? > > I think we need XFS users in order to signoff; might want to ask the > general public for signoffs. > > -Dan > anyone uses xfs? thanks Please signoff. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Overly large fonts in X11 after rebooting
by Samuel Baldwin 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

For some reason when I turned my laptop on today and started X, all my fonts were larger than normal. The only one that seems to have the stayed has been my console font, but even that feels a bit "off" (however, I'm not too worried about that, it could be that I'm sitting slightly closer than normal; the rest are most certainly measurably larger, though). The only difference between now and previously is that I don't have my external monitor plugged in, but my resolution didn't change, and I've used this computer without the external before without problems. It's just simply bigger; I turned down the GTK font, which seems to have worked for some apps (like firefox and pidgin), but the fonts are unbearably large for some websites: http://logik.li/images/screenshots/arrakis/large_fonts_in_some_places.png A few months ago I had a similar problem with certain sites having large fonts, and never really managed to solve it, one day after reinstalling it just went away and never came back until now. This was probably related. This is what similar sites used to look like: http://logik.li/images/screenshots/arrakis/let_me_show_you.png (and when they used to be bad: http://logik.li/images/screenshots/arrakis/126-negative_what_log-p.png ) So, anyone have any ideas about what I should do? -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

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[arch-general] /dev/tty* borked ...
by Firmicus 10 Oct '09

10 Oct '09

Hi folks, My system is uptodate with the current testing repo. During bootup today I noticed the error message: /etc/rc.sysinit: line 364: /dev/tty[0-9]*: no such file or directory To my surprise, only /dev/tty was present, but none of tty0..9. Instead there was a device literally named '/dev/tty[0-9]*' !! I deleted the latter, and attempted to create the missing ones with mknod. But I think I took the wrong major number, and now my system has started to behave a bit crazy... Any idea what I should do to restore it to sanity? Thanks, F

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[arch-general] New PKGBUILD for libtorrent-rasterbar
by Jeff Horelick 10 Oct '09

10 Oct '09

Hey all, libtorrent-rasterbar is pretty out of date (2 months and 2 package versions), so here's a PKGBUILD for the new version. I bumped the pkgver (obviously), added python to the dependency list since we *ARE* building the python bindings... and I set the package to use the system libgeoip/geoip rather than the one bundled in the libtorrent tarball (which is a new configure option in libtorrent-rasterbar 0.14.6). It also checks out fine with namcap (no warnings or errors) and it compiled perfectly on the i686 box I tested it on. Part of the reason i'd like to see this updated is that Deluge 1.2.0_rc1 is out and myself and probably a few other Arch users would like to use it, but it requires libtorrent-rasterbar >=0.14.5 . The PKGBUILD is attached, but in case it gets filtered out, here's a pastebin link for it: http://dpaste.com/104444/plain/ Thanks in advance for building/uploading, JD

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[arch-general] No sound after last upgrade
by Thiago Varela 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Hi, After yesterday's update I can't get any sound off my box anymore :-( I tried mpd, xine, mplayer and youtube in firefox, and all of them are completely silent. Looked in alsamixer and the master volume is in the appropriate level, also the respective modules seem to be loaded and ok. Here goes the relevant part of my pacman.log [2009-10-08 12:15] synchronizing package lists [2009-10-08 12:18] starting full system upgrade [2009-10-08 13:58] upgraded module-init-tools (3.10-1 -> 3.10-2) [2009-10-08 13:58] installed libnice (0.0.9-1) [2009-10-08 13:58] installed gstreamer0.10-python (0.10.16-1) [2009-10-08 13:58] installed farsight2 (0.0.16-1) [2009-10-08 13:58] upgraded pidgin (2.6.2-2.1 -> 2.6.2-3) [2009-10-08 13:59] upgraded qt (4.5.3-2 -> 4.5.3-3) [2009-10-08 13:59] Building VirtualBox modules... [2009-10-08 14:03] [2009-10-08 14:03] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [2009-10-08 14:03] IMPORTANT NOTES: [2009-10-08 14:03] [2009-10-08 14:03] - Run "vbox_build_module" as root every time your kernel is upgraded, to [2009-10-08 14:03] compile the module for the new kernel version. [2009-10-08 14:03] - Add your user to the vboxusers group: [2009-10-08 14:03] gpasswd -a USERNAME vboxusers [2009-10-08 14:03] - Add "vboxdrv" to the MODULES array in your "/etc/rc.conf" [2009-10-08 14:03] - Add "vboxnetflt" to MODULES if you want Host Interface networking. [2009-10-08 14:03] - Add "vboxnetadp" to MODULES if you want Host-Only networking. [2009-10-08 14:03] - If USB does not work for you out-of-the-box, add the following line [2009-10-08 14:03] to "/etc/fstab": [2009-10-08 14:03] none /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto,busgid=108,busmode=0775,devgid=108,devmode=0664 0 0 [2009-10-08 14:03] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [2009-10-08 14:03] upgraded virtualbox_bin (3.0.6-2 -> 3.0.8-1) [2009-10-08 14:03] upgraded ipsec-tools (0.7.2-3 -> 0.7.3-1) [2009-10-08 14:03] upgraded ncmpcpp (0.4-1 -> 0.4.1-3) [2009-10-08 14:03] upgraded sdparm (1.03-2 -> 1.04-1) [2009-10-08 14:03] installed libmpdclient (2.0-1) [2009-10-08 14:03] upgraded mpc (0.17-1 -> 0.18-1) [2009-10-08 14:03] upgraded xf86-video-ati (6.12.2-2 -> 6.12.4-1) Anyone got any pointers? -- Thiago Varela

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[arch-general] Whats wrong with this error message
by David Houston 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

dave@devbox [2054] --> pacman -U nvidia-utils-beta-190.36-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz loading package data... checking dependencies... error: replacing packages with -U is not supported yet error: you can replace packages manually using -Rd and -U error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: nvidia-utils-beta: conflicts with nvidia-utils zsh: exit 1 sudo pacman -U nvidia-utils-beta-190.36-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz Dave ------------- root(a)crankyadmin.net cranky(a)archlinux.us

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[arch-general] Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page
by Sergej Pupykin 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Hi, I have start Web_application_package_guidelines. http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Web_application_package_guidelines I suggest to discuss and improve our web packaging standard. PS. to avoid discussion about webapps useless. There are (at least) - phpmyadmin - phpldapadmin - phppgadmin which have no need in multiple instances on different virtual hosts and useful even on localhost.

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[arch-general] Which security setting in Arch prevents forwarding X apps when su root?
by David C. Rankin 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Listmates, Which setting in Arch prevents forwarding apps when you ssh -X in an Arch box, su and then try to start a kde app, etc.? X forwarding works just fine as a user, but when trying it su'ed to root, I get the following error: [23:29 archangel:/etc] # kwrite X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. kwrite: cannot connect to X server localhost:10.0 kdm config? X config? Any pointers/links would be appreciated. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
by Roman Kyrylych 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Hi all! I am looking for hosting that support Arch. Most probably this will be a VPS hosting (because of price), so official Arch Linux support is required. So far the list include: http://www.slicehost.com/ http://vpslink.com/ (a subsidiary of http://www.spry.com/) http://www.vpsville.com/arch-vps (also .co.uk and .co.ca) http://www.linode.com/ http://lylix.net/ https://www.sevenl.net/ (they have donated a server for Arch, and provide a dedicated hosting with Arch too) If there is someone who has experience with these providers - I would be very thankful for information. Also if someone knows about other providers that could join the list - let me know. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[arch-general] Master mode and Intel 4965AGN
by Adam Lloyd 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Hi, list, I am trying to use my wireless card to share a wired connection. I have an Intel 4965AGN card, and I am fairly confident that this should be possible; however, I've been unsuccessful after a few hours of trying and Googling. The issue seems to be that the card won't enter master mode. Trying to set it up manually with `iwconfig wlan0 mode master` results in "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument." (As an interesting side note, I can easily put it into ad-hoc, managed, or even monitor mode this way.) Using hostapd (with the nl80211 driver) fails with the message "Failed to set interface wlan0 to master mode." According to `iw phy0 info`, the supported interface modes are IBSS, managed, and monitor. I booted up an Ubuntu 9.04 live CD and compared the output of `iw phy phy0 info` there, and indeed, AP and AP(VLAN) (I believe) were also present in the list. I've tried on Arch with both the current 2.6.30 kernel and the 2.6.31 kernel in [testing], and neither has worked. The version of iwlwifi-4965-ucode I have installed is 228.61.2.24-1. Anyone have any idea what might be wrong and how to fix it? I'll happily provide any further information that might be relevant. -Adam Lloyd

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[arch-general] X server reset when I press enter (!!!)
by Dario 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Hi! I'm experimenting a really bad behaviour from the X server, since yesterday night's update, which involved mainly KDE. When I press ENTER, in whichever applications or DM, the X server randomly reset just as I pressed ctrl-alt-backspace! For example, I had to start this email three times, and I have to resist to press the damn key. As I said, this happens in any applications (inkscape, NetBeans, Lyx, xterm, kmail, kwrite, anything), in KDE and FluxBox. I'm running NVIDIA proprietary drivers in a twinview configuration. I'm going to do some testing to isolate better the causes, but in the meantime, does someone of you has a suggestions? Thanks in advance and sorry for the bad formatting of this email: I can't press Enter...:( Ciao! Carotinho Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com

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[arch-general] Pkg dependency tool
by Ciprian Dorin, Craciun 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Hello all! Is there any tool that would tell me all the direct or indirect dependencies of a package or set of pagkages? (Something like http://alioth.debian.org/~fjp/debtree/ but only with textual output.) Thanks, Ciprian.

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.31.2-1
by Uli Armbruster 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Ok, I got it now. Putting radeon into MODULES in mkinitcpio.conf wasn't enough, I had to put intel_agp in there as well. Now it works this way. But there's still something to discuss: When my mkinitcpio.conf looks like this MODULES="intel_agp radeon" BINARIES="" HOOKS="base udev autodetect pata filesystems" udev uevents takes about 3700ms at boottime. But as soon as I add FILES="/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf" with a options radeon modeset=1 in the modprobe.conf, it takes only about 800ms. I guess if we get enough input from many testers, it might be ok to activate kms for radeon by default. Those guys, who have problems, might consider trying it again with this stuff I found out, maybe that solves your problems too. army

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[arch-general] outdated packages
by Juan Diego 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Good day everyone I have a suggestion. if you take a look at the packages in aur, most of them are always up to date, the reason that I can find is the "flag out-of-date" feature, this is very interesting because in aur you also have the possibility to propose a new PKGBUILD ( in the comments) that would set the package as up to date and usually the maintainer just have to check that everything is ok with the PKGBUILD and do copy-paste. is it possible to have something similar for core, extra and community repos? I know you can submit a bug, but at least in my case I got lazy to do that because is not a simple process, but in aur I do it frequently because you just have to press a simple button. Have a nice day

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[arch-general] Package "required by" doesn't look in AUR?
by Phillip Smith 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Example: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/fetchmail/ The etrn-poke package in the AUR requires fetchmail, however the page above doesn't list that. Is the AUR not searched for packages that depend on this package or is it a bug?

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.31.2-1
by Uli Armbruster 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Andi wrote: >Radeon state: With new xf86-video-ati 6.12.4 driver simply add "radeon" to the modules array in mkinitcpio.conf and recreate the initrd. That's all for kms. I tried this and it didn't work for me. When I did my first reboot with 2.6.31.2-1, it worked with this mkinitcpio.conf MODULES="" BINARIES="" HOOKS="base udev autodetect pata filesystems" (everything else is commented out) On tty it looked like I had put radeonfb into the modules line of rc.conf. Is this the common behaviour? (I haven't see kms in real so far, so I don't exactly know what it behaves like) Then I tried it with MODULES="radeon" in mkinitcpio.conf, which made my reboot process stop at "waiting for udev uevents to be processed". I'd love to do more tests for you with other options, e.g. something in modprobe.conf etc to make kms work great by default on arch! My hardware lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 21) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 21) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 83) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller 02:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller 02:04.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller 02:04.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller 02:04.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01) 02:06.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05) 03:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) army

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[arch-general] Plasma segmentation faults
by Lars Tennstedt 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hello, Plasma crashes several times a day on my Arch Linux installation (32 bit) with a segmentation fault and recovers immediately. The problem has been occured since the release of version 4.3.0. I did not remember such a problem using version 4.2.x. My system is up-to-date, installed software is taken only from the official repositories core, extra and community, the desktop effects are enabled and the graphics card driver is the nvidia closed source one. There is no bug report about this on bugs.archlinux.org. Does anybody have similar problems? Bye, Lars Tennstedt

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[arch-general] Status of bluetooth in Arch, specially bluez package
by Ricardo Hernandez 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hi, i write to know the status of bluetooth packages in Arch, i mean bluez mostly. In extra repository -- Ricardo Hernández ( richerVE ) richerve(a)archlinux.com.ve

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[arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org
by Sergej Pupykin 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hi, I often have issues with $ makepkg --allsource when I build source package which uses ftp.archlinux.org Today they are: qt texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc texlive-htmlxml-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-langcjk-doc texlive-langcyrillic-doc texlive-langextra-doc texlive-langgreek-doc texlive-latex3-doc texlive-latexextra-doc texlive-music-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-plainextra-doc texlive-pstricks-doc texlive-publishers-doc texlive-science-doc Should I create bug or sources are removed from ftp for some reason?

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[arch-general] let's discuss /srv again
by Sergej Pupykin 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hi, I want to discuss using /srv directory in packages (For reference: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16410) Of course I can easy sed and rebuild all my web packages, but I want to know reason why we disable /srv in packages? (Did I skip something?) **cut** >> /srv and /home are different cases >> /home often network or --bind mounted. >> for example I use 4 chrooted environment to build packages with single /home (mounted with --bind key) >> Most of distros I know (for example suse, alt, debian) use /srv (or /var/www) in packages. (I can not remember distro which disable it) **cut** I do not want to split packages into /etc, /usr/share and /var folders with kludge symlinking. Would it be good if I replace /srv/http with /var/www/<package> or something like this?

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Re: [arch-general] let's discuss /srv again
by Phillip Smith 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

According to the FHS, /srv is for "site-specific" data served by the host: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSY… IMHO, this means webapps. The FHS makes specific mention that a distribution must take care not to touch user files in this directory, which infers that it is acceptable (expected?) that distributions will put files here. I also strongly agree that user modifyable files (eg, configuration files) must not be put anywhere in /usr and splitting the configuration into /etc like non-webapps is just a security nightmare. We also want to avoid untrusted processes like apache/lighttpd having read/write access into /usr where ever possible. Referring to the FHS again: "*/usr** is shareable, read-only data. That means that /usr should be shareable between various FHS-compliant hosts and must not be written to. Any information that is host-specific or varies with time is stored elsewhere.*" Keywords: "read-only", "must not be written to" and "host-specific"

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Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page
by David Houston 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Jobs a good one then :) On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jozsef <jozefk(a)gmx.com> wrote: > LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so > Include conf/extra/php5_module.conf > > After adding these two lines in httpd.conf everything works fine again. > > -- > Best, > Jozsef Kurucity | Web & Graphic Designer > +971 50 6783113 | jozefk(a)gmx.com > -- Dave ------------- root(a)crankyadmin.net cranky(a)archlinux.us

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[arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown
by Damjan Georgievski 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Is there a specific reason why rc.shutdown only shutsdown daemons if the previous runlevel was 3 or 5? It's the line that is: if [ "$PREVLEVEL" = "3" -o "$PREVLEVEL" = "5" ]; then I use both runlevel 4 and 5 (to use different login managers) and when shuting from 4 it will sometimes not shutdown clean. Can we actually do without this check for runlevels? It is additionally not compatible with Upstart, I understand Upstart is not supported in Arch in any way, but still more flexible rc.xxx scripts in Arch would be a good thing afterall. -- damjan

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