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[arch-general] Bug in latest vim - have to enter :q an additional time after split
by David C. Rankin 26 Aug '09

26 Aug '09

Listmates, There is a bug in the latest vim. Something prevents split windows from completely closing requiring an additional :q to exit. Take for example any two text files. I'll use /boot/grub/menu.lst and menu.lst.sav. To confirm the bug, do the following: cd /boot/grub vim menu.lst :split menu.lst.sav ## you now have both windows open with menu.lst.sav on top [1] :q (to exit menu.lst.sav, you get --No lines in buffer-- msg) [2] :q (to exit menu.lst, the syntax highlighting is killed but no exit??) [3] :q (finally, after 3rd quit, you actuall exit) Screenshots: [1] http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/vim-1.jpeg [2] http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/vim-2.jpeg [3] http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/vim-3.jpeg Is this a bug I need to report or does it look like a configuration issue? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Why doesn't plasma-panel show open apps in 2 rows in arch?
by David C. Rankin 26 Aug '09

26 Aug '09

Listmates, One strange difference in plasma-panel between my suse and my arch installs is that in suse, plasma-panel (kicker) shows the open application icons as 2 rows while my arch installs only show 1 row of apps. See: (26k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/kde4/screenshots/panel-2r… Is there a hidden setting for this, or is it just in the next 4.3.00-xyz package to be released? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/testing/ - almost usuable "google-analytics"
by David C. Rankin 26 Aug '09

26 Aug '09

Listmates, I have had my updates hand horribly over the past several days. So bad, I thought there was a bug in pacman. I have even canceled some with ctrl+c out of frustration. I think I just found out why. I was looking to download the i686 lts kernel so I was browsing the various repositories to see which one had it. I tried to access packages on archlinux.unixheads.org, and access to the repository did the same thing -- just hung. The little spinner in firefox was just going round-and-round. Looking at the site it was accessing, I under stood why: http://www.google-analytics.com/ Evidently some of the archlinux repos are using google-analytics to trac web traffic to the packages and this is killing access to the repository. Here is a screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/hung-repo-ann.jpeg I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Script for finding and "moving" older duplicate packages from /var/cache/pacman/pkg
by David C. Rankin 26 Aug '09

26 Aug '09

Listmates, I like to keep the current set of updated packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg but not have all of the older duplicates in there as well. However, I don't want to delete the old packages either, in case I need to downgrade a package. I simply want to move the older packages to a backup location on a different partition so I'm not filling up / with several extra gigabytes of older packages. To do this I adapted a script that I used to clean duplicates from my local rpm repository and changed the script to deal with package-name-v.e.r-arch.pkg.tar.gz instead of rpm-name-v.e.r-s.u.b-arch.rpm. (Thankfully arch just uses the pkg directory instead of a nested spiderweb under /var/cache/zypp/packages/.....) The script for finding and moving older duplicate packages is named fduppkg and is fairly self-explanitory. Running without arguments gives the options: 23:33 supersff:~/scripts/file> fduppkg Usage: <search dir> [ -d -l logfile -s -v ] Searches <search dir> for duplicate pkgs and moves duplicate files to [dup_dir] or <search dir>/duplicates by default. -d | --dupdir Used to specify directory to hold duplicate rpms -l | --logfile Specify the log file name (default ./duplicates.log) -s | --silent Don't output anything to stdout, just log results -v | --verbose Output information showing which files are kept and not moved You should note that the actual check for older/newer uses the file modification date to make the decision rather than parsing the version number digit-by-digit. So if you have done something nutty like moving all the packages out of /var/cache and then copying them back so all the file modification times are the same, this script won't work. (I could see it happening) If you have a need for something like this, you can grab the script at: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/scripts/fduppkg Since the script if fairly generic for packages, if you have a number of directories you want to operate on, you can just call the script from another script that sets the command line inputs. Example: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/scripts/fdup-archpkg I generally just create a link to the script in /usr/local/bin so it is in the search path. Also, if you just want to tear it apart for the bash scripting learning, I have commented it so it is somewhat readable. Enjoy. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] What changed: udev PolicyKit - No mount of usb or CD for non-root?
by David C. Rankin 26 Aug '09

26 Aug '09

Listmates, After updates this past week or so (not sure exactly when), Arch no longer mounts usb or CD/DVDs when inserted. What is the most likely culprit? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] bluetooth pairing with cellphone
by Dieter Plaetinck 25 Aug '09

25 Aug '09

hey dudes. I fail (sort of) at pairing my pc with my phone via bluetooth. (sony ericsson k810i, pc uses broadcom dongle) I have a system where everything is up to date, bluez is installed etc. the configs are all pretty much default. I did need to enable HID2HCI_ENABLE="true" in /etc/conf.d/bluetooth otherwise the bluetoothd daemon would abort immediately after startup ( ? ) I can do `hcitool scan` and see my phone. But to pair... 1) the bluez-simple-agent way: I start `sudo bluez-simple-agent`,it listens, and on the phone I search new devices. phone cannot find pc :( 2) the blueman way: 2a ) If I run as regular user, I get: dieter@dieter-ws-a7n8x-arch ~ blueman-manager Loading configuration plugins _________ on_bluez_name_owner_changed (/usr/bin/blueman-manager:99) org.bluez owner changed to :1.6 Using gconf config backend _________ SetAdapter (/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/blueman/gui/DeviceList.py:293) None ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on org.bluez:/: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.33" (uid=1000 pid=5982 comm="/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/blueman-manager ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member="Introspect" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.bluez" (uid=0 pid=4642 comm="/usr/sbin/bluetoothd ")) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 578, in msg_reply_handler reply_handler(*message.get_args_list(**get_args_opts)) File "/usr/bin/blueman-manager", line 148, in on_bluez_name_owner_changed self.List = ManagerDeviceList(adapter=self.Config.props.last_adapter, inst=self) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/blueman/gui/manager/ManagerDeviceList.py", line 71, in __init__ DeviceList.__init__(self, adapter, data) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/blueman/gui/DeviceList.py", line 120, in __init__ self.SetAdapter(adapter) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/blueman/gui/DeviceList.py", line 324, in SetAdapter except dbus.DBusServiceUnknownError: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'DBusServiceUnknownError' do i need to be in some kind of group or something? There was no post install message, nor info about this on the wiki page (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth) 2b) if I run blueman-manager as root I can pair (hooray). But actually I don't want to run stuff as root, nor do I want to use the bloatware that is blueman-manager. Dieter

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[arch-general] Stuff in /etc/cron.d/ won' work?
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 25 Aug '09

25 Aug '09

Hey there, I just noticed that I just couldn't get cron to properly execute stuff in /etc/cron.d/ no matter what I did. Let's say I have /etc/cron.d/lol with this content: * * * * * root echo "lol" >> /tmp/omg and restart crond afterwards, the crond log tells me that cron actually runs this command every minute without a problem. Sadly, this isn't the case and the file at /tmp/omg is created but remains without contents. In contrast, if I put an executable script to /etc/cron.hourly/lol with the content: echo "lol" >> /tmp/omg then the file at /tmp/omg fills up with lots of "lol"s after a couple of hours. It also works fine if I put it into the crontab. Now, I'd like to be able to use /etc/cron.d/ as well because it seems more transparent to me. Is there anything I do inherently wrong? -- Sven-Hendrik

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[arch-general] Ocaml - missing md5 checksum
by vratil 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hi, I was trying to build ocaml package from source and since makepkg insists on presence of md5sums, I noticed that ocaml PKGBUILD is missing them. I'd fill a bug, but I'd forget about it before our bugzilla is launched again :-) Cheers Dan V.

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[arch-general] GStreamer packages
by Thijs Vermeir 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hello all, I see that some GStreamer packages have been outdated, attached you can find the PGKBUILD's with upgraded version and some other modifications detailed below. (Coudn't find if this is already discused) I also had a question about the gst-plugins-base/good/bad/ugly packages. I see that they are now split-up in 2 packages (ex: gstreamer0.10-base and gstreamer0.10-base-plugins). The second one contains the plugins depending on external libraries and the first one contains libraries and plugins without external dependencies. Typically a user has all gstreamer plugins installed, or at least he is using some plugins from every package. So I propose that we also merge these 2 plugins to make it easier to maintain and match upstream packages. Does this sound logic or do I miss something? Changes to PKGBUILD: gstreamer0-10: 0.10.24 - disable tests and examples gstreamer0.10-base and plugins: 0.10.24 - only LGPL - bump depends versions gstreamer0.10-python: 0.10.16 Gr, Thijs

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[arch-general] [initscripts] Please revert last commit 757f653
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hi Please revert the last commit[#1], mounting /dev as NOEXEC is incorrect. This break nvidia GLX extension, vmware, mplayer and possible others programs that uses mmap() with execute privilege. PS: I guess that setting a size is "redundant" Thanks. [#1] http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=initscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=757f653b8c9… -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [initscripts] Please revert last commit 757f653
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Jan de Groot wrote: > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 01:25 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> Jan de Groot schrieb: >> >>> On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 19:06 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Please revert the last commit[#1], mounting /dev as NOEXEC is incorrect. >>>> This break nvidia GLX extension, vmware, mplayer and possible others >>>> programs that uses mmap() with execute privilege. >>>> >>>> PS: I guess that setting a size is "redundant" >>>> >> I already asked Gerardo in private: Can anyone provide any reference as >> to why noexec will prevent programs from working? >> > > Some applications like the ones mentioned in the original post will mmap > files in /dev/ with the PROT_EXEC flag. When the filesystem is mounted > as noexec, these mmap operations will fail. Even if the program doesn't > execute anything used in the mmap operation, the whole mmap operation > will just fail when this flag is set on a noexec filesystem. > > > Exactly Example of starting X with nvidia: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Unable to map device node /dev/zero with read, write, and (EE) NVIDIA(0): execute privileges. The GLX extension will be disabled on (EE) NVIDIA(0): this X screen. Please see Chapter 8: Common Problems in (EE) NVIDIA(0): the README for more information. (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] git_patch
by Laszlo Papp 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

Hello! I've attached a patch for git PKGBUILD. It has got a small extension to install the contrib/ folder too, like in other distribution, e.g. Ubuntu/Debian! I need for it because of post-receive-email script to get notification about commit. Best Regards, Laszlo Papp

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[arch-general] PHP 5.3 - just takes a bit of reconfiguring, but then works fine
by David C. Rankin 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

Listmates, In case any of you pull php 5.3 from testing and suddenly have all your web apps die, I thought I would pass along a few heads-up to save you reinventing the wheel. First Peirre Schmitz put out a few notes on the arch-dev list that provided the answer, but there was a lot that had to be read between the lines to appreciate the notes. I run several php intensive apps (eGroupware, Gallery2, and to a lesser extent squirrelmail) all of which went south when the 5.3 upgrade occurred (well, all of php went south with the upgrade, but it was purely a new configuration issue). The short version of what is required to put php5.3 in place? (1) You need to use the php.ini.pacnew file you will find in /etc/php and merge your php.ini setting into it; (2) You will need to rework the following 2 settings: open_basdir = include_path = ".:..." Specifically, you will need to pay careful attention to any trailing '/'s you have on the path definitions (or prefixes in the case of include_path) because any trailing slash now prevents php from descending further than the specified directory in search of any includes or opens it is looking for. This is what really cost a bit to time to chase down. Note, the changes are not all 5.3, but the effect of the changes in 5.3 will expose any error in the entries. I had 5.2.9 running fine, but I had a few extra '/'s terminating search paths that somehow worked, but in 5.3 that wouldn't fly. (3) PHP5.3 split php for arch into a number of different packages. From Pierre's post: php php-apache php-cgi php-curl php-enchant php-gd php-gmp php-intl php-ldap php-mcrypt php-odbc php-pear php-pgsql php-pspell php-snmp php-sqlite php-tidy php-xsl You will need to install what you need and see the post in arch-dev for specifics of sqlite, (what's needed for Ver. 2, and Ver 3.), etc... (4) After you install the packages, you will now need to specifically uncomment any of the extensions you need to load or have loadable from withing php.ini. (eg. extension=mysql.so; extension=odbc.so; extension=openssl.so, etc...) After going through this bit of unintended learning, PHP 5.3 is working smoothly as far as I can tell, logs are clean, a few derprecated warning for things that will disappear in php 6, but other than that, nothing. The last issue I found in php 5.3 is it checks for the absence mysql_free_result after mysql queries and warns if it isn't found. This may be something I just didn't notice in the earlier releases, but it provided the opportunity to clean up a few. That's it, hope it saves somebody a few extra minutes of time. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Can I downgrade the nvidia driver w/o downgrading the kernel?
by David C. Rankin 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

Listmates, I was going to test the nvidia driver fan issue by downgrading to the next older version of the driver with: [19:34 archangel:/srv/www] # pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/nvidia-180.51-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/nvidia-utils-180.51-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz loading package data... checking dependencies... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: nvidia: requires kernel26<2.6.30 But as somewhat expected, I got the dependency error shown above. It may not be possible, but if the nvidia install on arch just compiles the driver against the kernel, then I don't see why not. But then again if it is something that has changed from a module to a part of the kernel during that period of time (or something similar), then I could see why the older driver couldn't be compiled against the new kernel. Before trying anything I would regret, I thought I would ask. Is it possible? If so, how? Is "-d" OK here? Worst case, I just end up in runlevel 3 reinstalling the current driver again, right? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] rxvt-unicode patch
by Laszlo Papp 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Hello! I try to write here, because of the bugs.archlinux.org problems. I've got a small patch for rxvt-unicode package to build from AUR, something similar in case of community/rxvt-unicode-color256! Best Regards, Laszlo Papp

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[arch-general] Weird png corruption issue from Gwenview using "crop" -> "Save As" -> to a smb share
by David C. Rankin 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Listmates: Very strange bug with gwenview. I have bugged it with kde, but would like any confirmation and insight you might have that will help narrow the bug down. Here is the description pulled from my bug report: Gwenview has been completely reinstalled and the corruption still occurs. In fact, I have produced 3 corrupt files in a row using this scenario. The latest: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/kde4/screenshots/gwenview… Try this scenario and see if you still get a good crop: (1) Grab a screenshot of a window in ksnapshot (2) Choose "Open with" -> Gwenview (3) Crop the image, after pressing the final "crop", choose "File" -> "Save As" (4) Save to a smb share (5) Confirm file is corrupt or good and let me know. I tried saving the file with gwenview to my local disk and also saving it to the smb share. Both using the "File" -> "Save As" after a crop. When I save to the smb share, the corrupt image is about 250 bytes bigger than the good file: -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 37489 2009-08-08 20:23 gwenview-crop-save-03.png (corrupt) -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 37231 2009-08-08 20:37 gwenview-crop-save-03.scp2server.png (good) The file I saved locally and then scp'ed to the server is fine: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/kde4/screenshots/gwenview… I have confirmed this behavior on two boxes running suse but haven't been able to confirm it or rule it out on Arch. If you have a few minutes to try, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Problems with install Iso
by richard terry 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Hullo all, I tried to ask this a couple of days ago and for some reason it ended up as a flame war about chakra between people I don't even know and I'm not sure what triggered it, so I'll try again. I've used arch for many years and always been happy (I actually run it on 5-6 machines which I maintain ok). My laptop got a libreadline file problem after upgrading, so after backing up I just decided to reformat the drive the the latest arch linux iso I downloaded last weekend intending hence to use kde4.3, and have been spectacularly unsuccessful in getting the drive formatted using the install iso. with the /arch/setup program I tried auto to do the whole drive (it was a brand new seagate 500gig HDD) > no action, just sat there. I tried using CFDISK > create partitions > then the setting the mount points didn't recognise any partitions were there. After a couple of reboots and retries it did recognise the partition was there, but wouldn't let me allocate mount points. On one occasion it allowed me to allocated mount points but then just died. To prove to myself that it wasn't the drive I tried the chakra alpha on it which recognised the partitions and installed ok but this I've removed as I want arch proper. I'm at a loss to know where to head because this is my software developement machine (private not in any way related to a business) and I've been reduced to using xfce4 (not that bad actually) on an old drive, but all my email is in kmail (7+ years of it) which I don't want to have to import into thunderbird and kmail won't run on the machine with the corrupted installation. So, is there anyone who could give me a hint as where to proceed - I've tried re-downloading the iso and reburning it and the md5's are ok. Rescue disks or Knoppix read the partitions fine. Is there any way I can paritition and format with an external tool, then use the command line to install a base arch system so I can bypass the installer? Any help, even if you answer off list would be appreciated. Regards Richard

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[arch-general] nvidia card - fans are really cranked up after the latest driver update a week or so ago
by David C. Rankin 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Listmates, I have been chasing an issue on Arch having to do with the 8800GT in it. A couple of weeks ago there was a driver update from Nvidia that has caused the fans on my video card to really take off. With all drivers before that there wasn't a noise issue. The box is dual boot with openSuSE 11.0 so I can confirm that this is an arch/nvidia issue. Has anyone else noticed fan speed increases on your NV cards here lately? If so, any solutions?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Seahorse crash
by Francesco Groccia 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Hi, when I try to sign a file (command: 'seahorse-tool -s file.ext'), Seahorse crashes with this message: ### ** (seahorse-tool:6760): CRITICAL **: prompt_signer: assertion `GPG_IS_OK (gerr)' failed ### That means I don't use seahorse nautilus integration. Additional info: Arch64 seahorse 2.26.2-1 gnome 2.26.3 What happened?

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[arch-general] Phone App for KDE 4.3 (on x86_64)
by Chad Kellerman 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Arch..... Just wondering what phone apps people are using with KDE 4.3 on x86_64. I'd rather not go and install all the x86 libs for the 32bit version of Skype. I have a lot of upgrades this week, just want to be able to call into a conference call with VOIP. (so I can use a headset, the speaker phone keeps the wife awake at night.) Any suggestions would be helpful.. Thanks, Chad -- A grasshopper walks into a bar and the bartender says "Hey, we have a drink named after you." And the grasshopper says "Really, You have a drink named Murray?"

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[arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
by Nathan K. Bathory 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:10:27 +0200 "Ali H. Caliskan" <ali.h.caliskan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ...says the "sweet talker" who knows what he talks about. Why don't > you patch your fracking mount as you patch the PKGBUILDS! > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Thomas Bächler > <thomas(a)archlinux.org>wrote: > > > Ali H. Caliskan schrieb: > > > >> Well, I'm not a Chakra or kde user but I can say that I quite > >> familiar with > >> the PKGBUILDS of core and extra packages, and needless to say, > >> it's not always consistent most of the times. So stop blaming > >> others and work your ass off when required! > >> > > > > Very polite of you. Let me reply with an equally polite "Shut up, > > when you don't know what you are talking about". > > > > None of the packaging problems mentioned in the original post exist > > in core/extra, there are no file conflicts when using kde from > > extra, and there is not a single package in extra (and probably > > also community)that requires or uses libjpeg.so.62. > > > > The only explanation I have is: > > - chakra installs outdated versions of arch packages in combination > > with kdemod packages which depend on libjpeg.so.6 > > - chakra installs kdemod, which since extra/kde 4.3 was released > > don't have proper conflicts= tags, so there will be file conflicts > > unless you delete the kdemod packages first. > > > > All the problems mentioned in this "fresh installation" result from > > the fact that the system was installed from chakra and has > > non-official packages on it that induce incompatibilities with the > > stock package set. > > > > please, please don't disrupt this list with your negativity... i have personally installed kde 4.3 3 twice.. there are no conflicts as the packages are, there was a problem from the day before kde 4.3 was pushed and that apeared to be from kde-unstable packages(4.2.90) which dissappeared the very next day, this caused files conflicts and the remedy, as has been stated may be to remove the existing packages prior to install. You also refuse to help yourself? in your arrogance, a question was asked which might have lead to you issue being resolved and you willfully chose to ignore it.

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[arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
by richard terry 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Massive headache, well, actually it wasn't an upgrade it was a brand new HDD (kept the old one). all this started when I was stupid enough to install scribus > libreadline version problems and couldn't back track, Some other file was somehow affected and needed to run a terminal because then my arch isntall wouldn't boot at all, so I opted to buy another disk for my laptop and do a new install as I felt that at somepoint I'd have to upgrade anway. I'd appreciate a bit of advice. 1) the libjepg.7 vs 62 problem - I've exhaustively tried every solution over the last few hours on the forums and cannot get kmail to work - loads but 'poof; up in smoke once the gui appears 2) Dolphin - I really liked konqueror - can one still install this as a file browser. I note there is a kdebase-konqueror package, using this > multiple 'file exists in the filesystem' messages I could use a force but god knows what this will trash. Any alternatives. 3) Is there anyway to have two tool bars down the bottom like one could in KDE3 4) is it is any way possible to import kmail boxes (in one go) into thunderbird - mind you I like kmail better! 5) Kwrite ? same applies kdebase-kwrite but is it possible to install under kde4.3? Overall this has been a very very painful experience. I found the archlinux iso would in no way allow me to partition and format my disk - I created these with an external program > once they were recognised, at other times not, but at the end of the day installation was impossible. Chakra was kinder to me - recognised the existing partitions, and installed everything (alpha3), mind you no keyboard, so it died at the add user, so I used the arch install disk to boot that system, and manually added users and grub-install. Then every second program seems to whinge about the libjepg thing. Not a happy chappy, having used ARCH since version 0.4 and it has always been such a pleasure to use and maintain. Any help/comments/advice would be muchly appreciated. Richard

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[arch-general] What happens with extra?
by Sergej Pupykin 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686/ has ~140 packages

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[arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
by Attila 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Hello, since there starts a new splitting game with the kde/kdemod packages i have a question for own packages. Would it be possible to use this conflicts=("kdebase-*") if i want to use a variation of the kdebase package which includes all. I know that than i have to fill up the provides array with the full names if this is necessary. Comment: Thanks for the pacman support of splitting PKGBUILDs. See you, Attila

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[arch-general] IPv6 firewall, same as IPv4?
by clemens fischer 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Can I put IPv6 rules into the regular etc/iptables/iptables.rules file containing only IPv4 rules otherwise? I noticed that both /usr/sbin/iptables and /usr/sbin/ip6tables depend on the same .so libs, so me thinks these libs need to have IPv6 support and all is well. Also, to make IPv6 work I put a rule to pass IPv6 protocol traffic outbound on eth+. Inbound packets are propably handled by the customary "-A INPUT -i eth+ -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT", as they get into the machine somehow. I didn't check packet counters, though. clemens

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