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Re: [arch-general] [SPAM] [arch-dev-public] two patches for rc.d/network
by RedShift 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

James Rayner wrote: > 1) 0001-add-some-useful-error-messages-to-wireless-code.patch > Makes the wireless code in rc.d/network output some useful errors and > a tad more robust, rather than failing and giving no useful error at > all. > > Not tested yet, I don't have an insecure or WEP network to try it on, > and the family won't be impressed if I start messing with dd-wrt. I'll > try tomorrow morning when they're sleeping. > > 2) 0002-Added-connection-state-info-to-rc.d-network.patch > Makes rc.d/network create a file for an interface if it manages to > connect. Useful for scripts. > Also needs the directory /var/run/network/interfaces/ created in the > initscripts PKGBUILD. Scripts should use ifconfig or other networking tools that directly read from the kernel's configuration for network interface information. What if a user manually modifies his configuration without using the initscripts? Or does some advanced networking configuration in rc.local? The information in "/var/run/network" will not be correct. I'm going to be blunt, it's a stupid idea. Glenn > > (patches are not dependent) > > Cheers, > > James

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Re: [arch-general] dnsutils/bind
by Pierre Schmitz 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

Am Montag, 14. Juli 2008 05:39:13 schrieb K. Piche: > Need signoff for dnsutils and bind 9.5.0-2. Don't ignore this one - it > fixes VU#800113. Does anybody know by chance if pdnsd is also affected? (There are no updates available but that does not mean that much) Pierre -- http://www.archlinux.de

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[arch-general] file 4.25-1 doesn't recognize PNG image files
by Alessandro Doro 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

I've found that the new version of 'file' (4.25-1, i686) recognizes png files as data. The previous version (4.24-1) is ok. This is an upstream bug (reproduced building the package in a five year old suse system) related to the changes in the magic file. I've not digged in the code of the program so I don't know how/where the problem arises. I fixed the bug patching the source file magic/Magdir/images (see attachment) and rebuilding magic.mgc. Please, someone let me know if this is the right place for this kind of messages or if I should open a new task on Flyspray.

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[arch-general] Web package directory structure
by Sergej Pupykin 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi, I have a bug #10920 (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10920) Pierre advises (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=393437#p393437) to move php stuff into /usr/share, but Web stuff includes .htaccess, configs and other editable files, site generated data, etc, so after installing it, user should create many symlinks in document root or do something else according to hier(7). These packages need reworking (for example debian php packages install php-files into /etc, /usr, /var and create symlinks). Is it Arch way too? Before start this work, I want to make rules for web packages. So please post your opinions here...

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[arch-general] String freeze for 3.2 release
by Dan McGee 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Allan has finally bugged me enough that its time for our pacman codebase to see the light and a new 3.2 release. So here is the call for the string freeze. I've CC-ed this to the Arch General list to see if anyone there is interested in helping out. PLEASE reply to the pacman-dev mailing list if you have questions or want to help out but are not sure how. Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) pre-release updates. http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ I would like to get the release out in 7 days or so, so the sooner the better for the translations. Languages we currently have: cs:Vojtěch Gondžala <vojtech.gondzala(a)gmail.com> de: Matthias Gorissen <matthias(a)archlinux.de> en_GB: Jeff Bailes <thepizzaking(a)gmail.com> es: Juan Pablo Gonzalez <jotapesan(a)gmail.com>, Imanol Celaya <ilcra1989(a)gmail.com> fr: Xavier Chantry <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> hu: Nagy Gabor <ngaba(a)bibl.u-szeged.hu> it: Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania(a)gmail.com> pl: Jaroslaw Swierczynski <swiergot(a)gmail.com> pt_BR: João Felipe Santos <jfsantos(a)archlinux-br.org> ru: Sergey Tereschenko <serg.partizan(a)gmail.com> tr: Samed Beyribey <beyribey(a)gmail.com> zh_CN: 甘露(Lu.Gan) <rhythm.gan(a)gmail.com> If you wish to help translate, but your language is already listed as handled by someone, please contact them at the above addresses. If the language is listed as "no current translator", then please reply to ALL on this message stating you are doing the translation so we do not have duplicated effort (although you are more than welcome to work in teams). Once you have updated or completed a translation, simply tar and gzip the files up and send them back to pacman-dev(a)archlinux.org with a [translation] prefix in the message. For those that are used to the old method of updating translations (GIT patches), those are still acceptable as well. Please prefix the patch with "translation:" so it can be picked out easily. Any questions should be answered if you reply to this email on the list. -Dan

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[arch-general] Bad url field in gmp PKGBUILD
by Gustavo A. Gómez Farhat 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Hello. It seems that the url field of the gmp package is outdated -gives a 404 error-. The right link is http://gmplib.org/ Cheers, -- Gustavo Andrés Gómez Farhat

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Re: [arch-general] Lyx and texlive don't allow viewing the document as pdf, ps, or dvi
by Ravi Desai 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh, I figured out what the problem was. /opt/texlive/bin was not included in the PATH, so I added it in /etc/profile, logged back in, the my files are showing perfectly. Thank you, Ravi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh8/xQACgkQFPWImGkPaMLkIQCcDkk/ePHegXZJ4ClongXorQ0g ZXQAn34r5549wDBvSKSx757C4SNsKYIB =3OIt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] Lyx and texlive don't allow viewing the document as pdf, ps, or dvi
by Ravi Desai 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Hello, I have installed lyx, and texlive (from community). I am now (I had tetex earlier and it was working fine) unable to view my documents by clicking View -> DVI or View -> PDF or by clicking the PDF, DVI, and PS buttons on the toolbar. I keep getting the error dialog box "File does not exist: /tmp/lyx_tmpdir[random letters and numbers]/lyx_tmpbuf0/foo.dvi" or "blah: blah/foo.pdf" or "blah: /blah/foo.ps". Does anyone know how I may solve this problem? I could go back to tetex, but I'd feel more satisfied with finding a solution to the problem, so here I am :) . Thank you ravster.

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[arch-general] pidgin bug?
by David Rosenstrauch 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

Another one: Seems like the upgrade to pidgin 2.4.3 removed some functionality. In an IRC window, the list of users in the room used to appear in multiple colors, IIRC. Now they're all in the standard WM text color (white, in my case). Again, anyone know of a workaround, and/or an Arch or Pidgin bug report on this? Tnx, DR

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[arch-general] firefox 3 tabs bug?
by David Rosenstrauch 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

Been having a weird issue with FF3. Thought I'd check here before filing a bug report either with Arch or Mozilla. I have FF configured with "New pages should be opened in: a new tab" (as opposed to a new window). However, as per the FF help, they do the "proper" thing and ignore this setting when a page requests to open a window of a specific size: "Tabs Preferences New pages should be opened in: This preference controls whether links from other applications or from web pages which request to open them in new windows are opened in a new window or a new tab in the most recent window. Note: If you have chosen to open pages in new tabs, Firefox will ignore this preference and will open a new window from a link if the page author specified that the new window should have a specific size, because some pages can only be displayed correctly at a specific size." This all worked perfectly in FF2. Pages were always opened in new tabs, with the exception of pages that wanted to open themselves in "dialog" style external windows of a particular size. However, this behavior is totally borked in FF3. FF3 no longer ignores the setting and opens a new window when a particular window size is requested. Instead, it *always* opens new pages in a new, even if they're intended to be dialogs. And even worse, after opening the page in a new tab, it then proceeds to resize the existing browser window to the size requested. This is obviously really irritating, as my browser window keeps getting resized on my, and I have to keep manually restoring it back to my preferred size. Anyone else seeing this? If so, know of a fix or a workaround? If not, anyone know if there's already a bug report open about this on Arch or Mozilla? Tnx, DR

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[arch-general] How to flag out of date for package in community
by 甘露(Lu Gan) 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

I can't find way to flag out of date for package in community, any suggestion? Thanks.

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[arch-general] firefox-i18n Dependency and package mainteiner contact
by raca 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

Hi, I don't how to contact the package maintainer of firefox-i18n so I write to here. This in order to correct the dependency from firefox=3.0 to firefox>=3.0 ( and firefox <=4.0 maybe). Other thing, how can generally someone contact the package maintainer? Cheers

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[arch-general] Problems with snort package
by Kessia 'even' Pinheiro 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Hi everyone, I did a snort instalation using the package from extra, but i got some problems. The package does not works after a fresh install. The problems are: - There are some problematic links with /usr/src/lib/snort_* - The conf /etc/snort/snort.conf doesn't load the rules, because the rules arent there! - The start script /etc/rc.d/snort doesn't start because the $SNORT_ARGS is blank. That should be some SNORT_OPTIONS and they are in /etc/conf.d/snort, but are never read. - The /etc/conf.d/snort is never used, and the security or incremental arguments like user, group or interface aren't used. So the user can edit it, but will never have efect. So, after that (and some more problems that i do not remember, I made another package [1], fixed all the problems and made some changes. [1] http://even.archlinux-br.org/things/arch/snort.tar.gz Thats all! -- Kessia Pinheiro Bacharelanda em Ciência da Computação - UFBa Linux Counter User #389695 - [http://counter.li.org] Colaboradora do Projeto Arch Linux Brasil http://even.archlinux-br.org

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[arch-general] latex2rtf missing URL
by Grigorios Bouzakis 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Hi, i was about to file a bug report cause in the web interface latex2rtf is missing the URL string, but then when i browsed SVN i saw that the package included a URL address. So i decided to send this email instead. Is that a bug of the web interface? I dont remember a similar occassion in the past. Greg

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Multilib on Archlinux x86_64
by RedShift 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Thomas Bächler wrote: > Andreas Radke schrieb: >> It's more a question what Arch64 was founded for: to be the bleading >> edge leading _pure_ 64bit distro around. That's been its goal since the >> project has started. And I think we did a good job. >> >> You may have missed the early discussions when we made decisions that >> we don't want (though we have could have) multilib compatibility and >> bi-arch gcc. That was a strict law. It was our way to push the efforts >> to once get it the same level where the x86 world is. > > I missed the discussions, maybe. But this is not a discussion we had a > few years ago, this is the discussion we are having now. And just saying > "A few years ago, we wanted it this way" is not a good reason. > >> Offering 32bit compat stuff always means to make it easy for users > > No, not to make it easy, but make it possible. As I said in my reply to > Daniel, I need a 64 bit OS, but I also need mixed 32/64 bit environments. > >> but takes much pressure from companies and opensource developers give >> the x86_64 architecture the time and responsibility it is worth. You >> can compare it to the question to support closed source stuff or not. >> We made our decision long ago. So please respect it. > > We never denied closed source software out of principle. We always made > things "just work". I want standard applications to "just work", without > having to bother about which architecture I am on. > > Now, again, you gave me a list of ideological reasons not to do it, but > where exactly is the point where this damages your "pure" system > technically? > It's about the technical purity. It's this that makes us different from the other distro's. Otherwise we're just on the road to the next ubuntu. And if you really want 32 bit stuff running on x86-64, just use a 32 bit chroot and don't bother with the multilib stuff. Glenn

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Multilib on Archlinux x86_64
by Loui 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:25:44PM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > I have to side with Thomas here on the fact that no technical > arguments were brought up. That irks me just a bit - that "no because > no" seems to be a valid reason. It's not. > > That said, I am very very neutral on this. Thomas' plan does not > integrate anything at all, it just puts some 32bit libs in a parallel > repo for people to use if they want to (read: users can choose). A > pristine system is all well and good, but as we can all tell from the > existence of the lib32- packages in community, it's not what everyone > wants. What Thomas is proposing is keeping the pristine system > pristine unless someone wants to install the 32bit stuff. I don't have > a problem with this rationale. > > *But* I think it is a bit important that we look at why we're doing > this - for a handful (5 or 6) closed source apps. flash, teamspeak, > skype, google-earth (and wine). It seems like a lot of work for a > handful of apps. That's why I'm neutral on this. I think the rationale > is sound, but it sounds like a lot of forward MOTION for little > forward PROGRESS. Well there's nothing stopping people from creating their own 32bit library repos for x86_64. So just get together and do it eh? That's why there are things like kdemod and a new arch-games repo.

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[arch-general] /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolc.conf.tail
by timetrap 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Hi, this is my first message to arch-general. I have been helping a user on the forums who needs multiple search domains in his /etc/resolv.conf file. His original question was this: "Our DHCP isolates clients to a separate subnet than the servers. As such, unless you fully qualify the server name, you can't find the server. A work around is to put the IP in the hosts file, but there are just too many servers to do that with. Another option is to add the search domain(s) in the to the end of the search line in resolv.conf, however that file is re-written by dhcpcd, so changes are quickly lost. Is there a way to add on search domains to what DHCP hands your system?" I have done some research and found that the BSDs have a particularly nice solution to this; /etc/resolv.conf.tail Basically, it does this: #!/bin/bash if [ -f /etc/resolv.conf.tail ]; then cat /etc/resolv.conf.tail >> /etc/resolv.conf fi I am still new to arch, and I don't know who exactly deals with this portion of the distro. Is this something that can be made standard? It seems like a very simple fix. Very useful too. Here is the forum posting: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=388345#p388345 --timetrap

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.25.10
by RedShift 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Thomas Bächler wrote: > Just a bump to .10 and a minor configuration change (AOE added). It is > built with gcc 4.3.1, so if any binary modules break, please tell me. > It may be smart to wait for GCC 4.3.2 to come out, because of this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451068 Glenn

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Re: [arch-general] community/mc-utf8 to extra/mc
by Gerhard Brauer 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:01:09PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Sergej Pupykin wrote: >> >> I see that mc with utf8 support is in extra now, so I delete mc-utf8 >> from community and ask someone who can do it: >> >> please reassign http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10376 to the new maintainer. > > Do you know if this bug is valid for the new mc in extra. If so I will > move/reassign it. Yes it also under mc 4.6.1-5. But this is a very minor thing, and i noticed that this only occurs whit german locale (ok, i don't tested others). But with LANG=C this doesn't happend. So it's maybe a (german) locale issue (false translation character in .po ?). > Allan Gerhard -- Kernel panic: Could not determine whether bit was one, zero or sqrt(1/PI)... (J.K. in d-u-g)

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[arch-general] kernel vga setting problems
by Ralph Alvy 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Why is it that after the last few upgrades with pacman I can't use any 'vga=nnn' setting anymore in my grub menu.lst? I used to use 'vga=792' 'vga=795', if memory serves me here. I keep ending up with a message at boot time that tells me the video mode selected is no recognized.

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Re: [arch-general] usb keyboard and mouse
by Sergej Pupykin 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

I try usbhid (as Celti say) driver and it seems it works, but I file a bug anyway. I think 2 more drivers would not be unnecessary. I don't try Emulate3Buttons=false, I'll do it today with mouse driver..

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[arch-general] community/mc-utf8 to extra/mc
by Sergej Pupykin 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

Hello, I see that mc with utf8 support is in extra now, so I delete mc-utf8 from community and ask someone who can do it: please reassign http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10376 to the new maintainer.

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[arch-general] usb keyboard and mouse
by Sergej Pupykin 01 Jul '08

01 Jul '08

Hi, All! Today I remove usb->ps/2 connector from my mouse because new MB has no ps/2 and I got the problem $ zcat /proc/config.gz | egrep "USB_MOUSE|USB_KBD" # CONFIG_USB_KBD is not set # CONFIG_USB_MOUSE is not set recompillng kernel with CONFIG_USB_KBD=m CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m and modprobe usbmouse resovle it. Should I file a bug or I miss something and there is a more proper way to set this up?

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[arch-general] [gcc-4.3] segfault when runnung -O3 compiled c++ code
by Maik Beckmann 01 Jul '08

01 Jul '08

Hi, Can someone confirm that this http://codepad.org/I313t7BN compiled with g++ -O3 test.cpp -o test gives a segfault when trying to run it via ./test ?? I mailed to the gcc-help list regarding this issue: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.help/24804 Thanks, -- Maik PS: I'm on arch64, no testing no unstable.

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[arch-general] Archlinux Gaming Repository
by Chris Bolton 29 Jun '08

29 Jun '08

Hey all! A few of us have put together an arch gaming repo, which is basically a collection of some of some of the popular games in [unsupported], to save archers compilation time. Visit our wiki (http://arch-games.twilightlair.net) for more information.

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