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[arch-dev-public] Away for two weeks
by Jelle van der Waa 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

Hi all, I'll be away for two weeks without a laptop so I won't be able to do any packaging. Feel free to update my packages or fix my open bugs ^_^ If there is something really urgent, I should be able to reply via e-mail. -- Jelle van der Waa

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[arch-dev-public] Meeting on dbscripts git repository layout and debug packages
by Bartłomiej Piotrowski 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

Hi all, We would like to discuss design, issues and what is left to do about the future dbscripts git migration and enabling debug packages by default. Please fill which time suits you best on Monday (17.09) or Tuesday (18.09) here[1]. The meeting will take place on #archlinux-devops on Freenode. It's a public channel so anyone who's interested can join. I will send an update with final date till Sunday. Bartłomiej [1] https://doodle.com/poll/6hsbn8z3et8gazmi

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[arch-dev-public] rename lcms -> lcms1
by Christian Hesse 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

Hello everybody, we have packages lcms (which provides lcms 1.x) and lcms2. The former is flagged out-of-date every now and then for version 2.x... I would like to rename the package to lcms1 with replace and provide for lcms. Any concerns? -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Best regards my address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* Chris cc -ox -xc - && ./x */b/42*2-3)*42);}

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[arch-dev-public] Request to orphan Snowman's packages
by Balló György 17 Sep '18

17 Sep '18

Eric Bélanger (Snowman) was inactive as package maintainer in the past two years. [1][2] Is it possible to disown his packages on archweb? I think it would better to make it visible that his packages are actually orphan. https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/log/?qt=author&q=eric https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/log/?qt=author&q=eric -- György Balló Trusted User

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[arch-dev-public] Proposal to remove libglade
by Balló György 17 Sep '18

17 Sep '18

Hi all, Similar to my previous mail, I orphaned some of my packages which have a dependency on libglade. Libglade is deprecated in favor of GtkBuilder since 2009, [1] and does not receive any fixes since then. I would propose to remove it from the official repositories. The following packages were ported from libglade to GtkBuilder, but not released yet: - deluge (via pygtk.glade, only the GUI part) - gespeaker (via pygtk.glade) - obconf - ogmrip The following packages were not ported yet, and most of them have inactive upstream: - agave (via libglademm) - bless (via glade-sharp) - foxtrotgps - fyre - gnome-hearts - gnome-schedule (via pygtk.glade) - gsql - keepnote (via pygtk.glade) - labyrinth (via pygtk.glade) - lat (via glade-sharp) - mono-tools (via glade-sharp) - muine (via glade-sharp) - netactview - obmenu (via pygtk.glade) - planner - pympd (via pygtk.glade) - python2-matplotlib (via pygtk.glade, only the GTKAgg and GTKCairo backends, which were already removed from git master) - rox-lib (via pygtk.glade) - scribes (via pygtk.glade) - smuxi (via glade-sharp) - tuna (via pygtk.glade, only the GUI part) - vmoviedb - xournal (via libgnomecanvas) - xscreensaver (only the xscreensaver-demo GUI) After the above packages were fixed or removed, libglade support can be disabled in the following packages: - gtk-sharp-2 - pygtk After that libglade and related packages can be removed: - glade-perl - gnet - lib32-libglade - libart-lgpl - libglade - libglademm - libgnomecanvas Any objections? [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2009-May/msg00003.html -- György Balló Trusted User

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[arch-dev-public] Proposal to remove GConf
by Balló György 13 Sep '18

13 Sep '18

Hi all, Recently I orphaned some of my packages which have a dependency on gconf. GConf was used in GNOME 2 as the settings storage daemon. It's deprecated since 2010 in favor of GSettings, and does not receive any fixes since 2013. I would propose to remove it from the official repositories. The following packages are fully functional without GConf: - aisleriot (FS#60000) - brasero (FS#59978) - emacs (FS#59887) - firefox-developer-edition - firefox (FS#59992) - gnome-terminal (FS#59980) - ibus (requires gsettings-schema-convert during build if the dconf module is enabled) - qcef (libcef must be built from sources to disable gconf usage) - steam-native-runtime (FS#60036) - thunderbird (FS#59993) The following packages were ported from GConf to GSettings, but not released yet: - ekiga - ogmrip The following packages were not ported yet and have inactive upstream: - alleyoop - apcupsd (only the GUI part) - billreminder - ccgo - docky - gnome-alsamixer - gnome-do - gnome-schedule - gsql - hamster-time-tracker - muine - planner - tomboy - vmoviedb After the above packages were fixed or removed, GConf and related packages can be removed too: - gconf - gconf-editor - gconfmm - gconf-sharp - lib32-gconf - python2-gconf Any objections? -- György Balló Trusted User

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[arch-dev-public] [RFC] Remove svn propset id's
by Jelle van der Waa 12 Sep '18

12 Sep '18

Most of our PKGBUILDs svn propset's break reproducible builds and the pkgbuild_sha256sum in the BUILDINFO file. When building a package before commiting the PKGBUILD the propset $Id will differ since the $Id is set on commit. This has a few implications, pkgbuild_sha256sum is useless and we can't reproduce packages due to the BUILDINFO not matching. Also the reproduce tool uses ASP to retrieve the PKGBUILD and therefore can't verify that it got the correct PKGBUILD (it relies on pkgbuild_sha256sum). To resolve this issue we could simply remove the propset id's, since for me, although not sure about others they don't seem particulary useful. The proof that the sha256sums's don't match: $ extra-x86_64-build $ grep sha256 .BUILDINFO pkgbuild_sha256sum = 8748d60d2c782f477cb7e692a3dad30be90491cdc13fe8951340da4c0bc7f19e $ $repopkg $ sha256sum PKGBUILD d8ab51a983026dd4a6e2f48e9dc66177eca8cf6c1c0ffefb950b093db299e304 PKGBUILD # The git checkout [jelle@helium][/tmp/bar/community/python-psutil/trunk]%sha256sum PKGBUILD ce7f1e68a3b426412a24f46016817d30721860c8ef6b3d0a2dddac8ff2448b84 PKGBUILD [jelle@helium][/tmp/bar/community/python-psutil/trunk]%diff PKGBUILD /tmp/python-psutil/trunk/PKGBUILD 1c1 < # $Id$ --- > # $Id: PKGBUILD 375007 2018-08-28 17:24:26Z jelle $ -- Jelle van der Waa

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[arch-dev-public] /r/linux AMA
by Morten Linderud 10 Sep '18

10 Sep '18

Yo! The subreddit /r/linux have started organizing AMA threads for relevant projects. Gentoo had one of these a few months ago and is an interesting read. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8nsdj0/we_are_gentoo_developers_ama/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/93qlow/established_project_develope… I think it's a good idea Arch Linux does an AMA as it's might give users some incentive to help contributing to the project. I have chatted with a subreddit mod at /r/linux, and the AMA should preferably start on any Monday from 27th and onwards. It will also run for a few days, so there is no need to be present all the time, or when it starts. If you are interested participating please reply to the list with the following information: * Reddit username. * What you do. * What Monday fits for you? I have also started handing out flairs on the /r/archlinux subreddit. It's not an official forum, but if developers and team members want flairs for their reddit accounts you can also reply to this mail or poke me on IRC :) -- Morten Linderud PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16

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[arch-dev-public] away for some time over the next month
by Eli Schwartz 09 Sep '18

09 Sep '18

It is High Holiday season, so I will be away at a minimum, tomorrow and Tuesday, then Wednesday the 19th and the week after that. (Plus, you know, general hecticness.) I'll be irregularly available until October 3rd, in other words. All the best. :) -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User

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[arch-dev-public] Dropping KDE4 libs
by Antonio Rojas 04 Sep '18

04 Sep '18

I think it's time to drop the KDE4 libraries. They were EOL months ago and most stuff that isn't yet ported to KF5 is dead upstream. This would allow dropping a number of qt4 libraries and reduce the qt4 reverse dependencies (qt4 has been EOL for 3 years now). Affected packages are: - recorditnow (there are many alternatives available) - ligthdm-kde-greeter (dead upstream, no signs of KF5 porting) - krecipes (dead upstream, no signs of KF5 porting) - kdiff3 (has been ported to KF5 for a while, just needs a release. Could be updated to a snapshot) - pidgin-kwallet (uses kwallet dbus API, so should work with the KF5 version without any modification) - libreoffice-still (would lose the KDE4 VCL, which is quite buggy anyway. LO-fresh has a new VCL that uses KF5 file dialog) - amarok: it has a WIP KF5 port, but it's not quite ready and development is stalled. IMO we should let it rest in peace - I can keep a KF5 snapshot in kde-unstable for a while but it doesn't look like it's going anywhere any time soon at the current development pace. There are a few alternatives in the repos. Comments?

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