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[arch-dev-public] Updating base /etc files
by Aaron Griffin 20 Apr '07

20 Apr '07

This is split from the "iputils and traceroute" discussion on arch-dev, moving it to the public list, and splitting things out. The issue is that our stock /etc/services and /etc/protocols files suck. Here's what I'd like to do - rip these files out of the iputils package and stick them in the 'filesystem' package. We can then grab updated files from NetBSD: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/etc/ As proposed in this bug report: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6194 I would also like to suggest one more file be updated, but am unsure if it should be part of the filesystem package: /etc/mailcap mailcap is actually really useful for things like firefox, which falls back to there if some of those goofy gnome services aren't running (I don't use them, so it cripples firefox here unless I use a ~/.mailcap) There is a huge problem with this, though, and that would be the fact that we'd have to add/remove entries to it to do things successfully... however, if we don't want to do this, we could at least provide entries for all out base packages (for instance, less and tar). - Aaron

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[arch-dev-public] new screen with pty group set
by Aaron Griffin 20 Apr '07

20 Apr '07

Hey all, just a "heads up" The screen package in testing has the "pty group" set to 5, which is our "tty" group in /etc/group This was requested via IRC, but i don't know if it would have a greater impact I'm unaware of, so I pushed it to testing for the time being. Please let me know if it all works for you.

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Re: [arch-dev-public] Fw: OpenSSL 0.9.8e has serious bug
by Tom K 20 Apr '07

20 Apr '07

David Rosenstrauch wrote: > Tom, > > I use EncFS pretty extensively, so I can assist you with testing if you > need. > > DR > Thanks David. Get it here for now: http://www.archlinux.org/~tom/packages/openssl-0.9.8e-3.pkg.tar.gz PKGBUILD and patch here: http://www.archlinux.org/~tom/packages/openssl/ I've asked the original reporter for details on the known OpenSSL/Blowfish problem, for inclusion in Arch News etc. T.

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[arch-dev-public] [Fwd: [drotschm@linuxtag.org: [LT07-Pro-Announce] Infomail #3, April 19, 2007]]
by Alexander Baldeck 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

News from Linuxtag! :) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [drotschm(a)linuxtag.org: [LT07-Pro-Announce] Infomail #3, April 19, 2007] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:11:07 +0200 From: Christoph Neuroth <christoph.neuroth(a)gmx.net> To: Alexaner Baldeck <kth5(a)archlinuxppc.org> Gute Neuigkeiten! Zu Punkt 1: Wir haben einen 24m^2 Stand zusammen mit T2SDE (fork von ROCK Linux) und mandrivauser.de chris ----- Forwarded message from Wolfgang Drotschmann <drotschm(a)linuxtag.org> ----- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:03:12 +0200 From: Wolfgang Drotschmann <drotschm(a)linuxtag.org> To: projects-announce(a)linuxtag.org Subject: [LT07-Pro-Announce] Infomail #3, April 19, 2007 Dear Projects, this is probably the most awaited mail you'll have received this week ;-) We would like to inform you about: o Booth Size, Layout and Equipment o Completion of vCC Record o Insurance o Beverages o Exhibitor Passes o Project Workshops o Banners for Your Website So you see, it's a lot of stuff. 1. Boot Size, Layout and Equipment This year we will try some new concepts and ideas for the free software project exhibition. The main idea is to get rid of the 5-10 sqm sized booths and to create an open, communicative ambience. Therefore we merged thematically related projects to a bigger booth - we occasionally use the word 'island' here :-) We talked to a number of you in the last days. If you share your booth with other projects, you can find them in the vCC [1]. To get the equipment for each booth planned, we urge you to check for your vCC entry regarding equipment you'll bring with you. Please updated the 'Equipment' field as soon as possible. Which brings us to... 2. Completion of vCC Record One advantage of a central data source is... well, you can get all the data you need from there. LinuxTag's source is the vCC. We use the information you fed into it to automagically generate the bits of information the visitor wants to know. Which are: o Project Title o Descriptions {en,de} x {long,short} Please complete or proof-read your vCC record! 3. Insurance LinuxTag cannot apply for an additional insurance to cover all projects and their equipment. Therefore, you should be very careful with the equipment you are going to use. If breaks, it's broken. You should also not leave small parts of value at the booth if there are no staff members at the booth, or when you are outside the exhibition (i. e. during the evening and morning). It should be sufficient to place movable parts in a box at the back of the booth. You should also not place larger items (like monitors and boxes) in the front of the booth in a way so that they can be carried away easily. Obeying to these basic rules should help you not loose any of your equipment. 4. Beverages If your project plans to hand visitors fluids of one kind or another, please ensure that this doesn't turn your booth into a beverages bar. This would actually cause a lot of problems because there's a default caterer and that company is the only one that is allowed to sell beverages at the exhibition center. They will get angry and try legal tricks (like asking for Korbgeld, see Wikipedia.de [2]) if they feel somebody is poaching in their territory. It is no problem to provide a cup of coffee or a glass of water to visitors inside the booth when talking to you and staff. Things just shouldn't spread. 5. Exhibitor Passes The exhibitor passes for project booth members will continue to be free of cost for a reasonable amount of booth personnel. However, they are not meant as a means for regular visitors to save the entrance-fee. Hence, please don't abuse this, and don't add random visitors as booth staff if they don't belong to your booth. For this matter we'll receive some eTickets later on. You can now order the exhibitor passes for each accepted project using the vCC. Please login at the virtual Conference Center and click in the Main menu on "Project" and then in submenu on "Projects". Each accepted project will find a button "Order exhibitor passes". After you ordered the passes, we will have a look at the list and approve them. Otherwise you will get an email from us. You'll need either normal entrance tickets or exhibitor passes for entering LinuxTag. You can get exhibitor passes on Tuesday at the LinuxTag office for the registered project staff. You can either get a single pass for your own, or the whole bunch for the entire project (or a mixture). If you fetch the passes for the entire project, please make sure that the other project members know this and know a way to get to the passes after the show has opened. Since our office is located behind the regular entrance, this won't work the same way when the show is going on. If you arrive after LinuxTag has already started, you'll have to either get a normal entrance ticket or ask your colleagues to provide you with an exhibitor pass from the inside. 6. Project Workshops Like last year we wait for your suggestions for project workshops! We'll reserve a number of rooms for this. It was well received by visitors in 2006, and most probably, because it will be on display for visitors again, will have a good number in audience this year, too. With you we'll use this "Workshop Rooms" to jointly organise a "projects to projects programme" or "developer to developer programme". Main purpose for these rooms is to provide attending projects an opportunity to talk to other developers (not necessarily from the same project) and to go into detail for a larger group than what would be possible at the booth. Please note: all workshops will be open to the public and will be announced so. In special cases we can make an exception, but we would like to discuss this in detail with you, if you think a session should be non-public. LinuxTag provides presentation equipment and probably Internet connectivity for all rooms. Normally a slot is 60 Minutes (don't forget to reserve some minutes at the end so the next workshop can be prepared!), if your workshop takes longer leave us a note within your abstract. Also do so, if you have a preference for a certain day. You can neglect the licence because it is not planned to distribute your submission (like a paper for the conference programme). But please do not forget to choose the language for your workshop submission. English may be your language of choice, but it is a valuable information for an interested visitor. Submissions can be placed -guess what!- in our vCC, please use your vCC account, and please choose category "Project Workshop" for your proposal here. Deadline is the April 27, 2007. 7. Banners for Your Website If you want to show your commitment to this years LinuxTag, or point visitors of your website to your booth, why not use a banner we prepared already for you? Please choose from the items over here: http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/de/expo/banner.html Please send us a short notice including links to the pages where you have placed the banners. Next Infomail will discuss... o ...how to provide us with your logo in an open vector format (PDF or EPS or SVG) and bitmap (JPG or PNG), o ...the whereabouts of deliveries, o ...booth security, storage for your equipment and luggage, o ...the size of the infopoints, and o ...accomodation. Please stay tuned! Regards, Susanne Pfeifer, Wolfgang Drotschmann, Marko Jung & Martin Schulte Project Committee LinuxTag 2007 [1] http://www.linuxtag.org/vcc/cc.pl?rm=projects [2] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korbgeld ----- End forwarded message -----

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[arch-dev-public] 2.6.21-rc6-git2 please test!
by Tobias Powalowski 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi just to inform all developers, the new kernel can be downloaded from this adress: http://www.archlinux.org/~tpowa/2.6.21/ or as repo [kernel] http://www.archlinux.org/~tpowa/2.6.21/ All developers that have modules and hardware are invited to test the already provided ones. I need your feedback on this task, to avoid broken modules in the future. Only broken one is ivtv at the moment and i haven'T build the unstable modules. If you find a fix for ivtv don't hesitate to put it here. Known to work: fcpci,fcpcmcia,intel-536ep, nvidia-9x and nvidia-71x thanks greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-dev-public] List of public rsyncable mirrors
by Jason Chu 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

I've had a couple of people ask now about what rsync servers they should use. I don't remember there being a public list so now I'm asking. Can we create a public list of mirrors people should be syncing from organized by country? Jason

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Re: [arch-dev-public] [arch] kernel 2.6.20.7, acpi changes and alsa bumped to 1.0.14rc3
by Dan McGee 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

On 4/18/07, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/15/07, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > the new kernel has acpi modules as much modularized as possible, it was > > requested due to some people having problems with the monitoring modules in > > the kernel. > > > > I have written a small wiki about the acpi modules, you need to add them to > > your MODULES=() array in rc.conf. > > > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acpi_modules > > I just found this to be an AWFUL idea. My computer just died due to > overheating. It was fine after I let it cool off- and rebooted and > loaded the thermal module as quick as I could. > > We can't do this to everyone's machine because of a few people- this > could fuck over a lot of people (excuse the language). I know it just > cost me the better part of an hour, and I haven't even found which > modules I actually need yet! > > There has to be a better way than this. Not happy right now. Ok, now that both the computer and I have cooled off (haha), I'll try to explain the issue a bit better. :) 1. I rebooted into the new kernel having added no new modules to my MODULES line in rc.conf. 2. I was sitting in X when I noticed everything start to slow down. A lot (processor underclocking more than likely). I do a few more things and boom...whole system goes down. 3. Wondering what happens, I press the power button on the box, which does nothing. 4. Thinking hardware issue, I unplug and replug the power cord. The power button works this time, but the computer only stays on for about 3 seconds before dying again. I open it up and can feel the heat wave from the processor. I let it cool for a while. 5. I reboot with the case open. When the BIOS kicks in, all fans are running. When the kernel takes over, all fans stop. Processor is still overly warm at this point. 6. Go to a console, type sensors, and am astounded to see my processor is at 62 C. Never seen it this high before. modprobe a few of the modules (processor, button, fan, thermal). As soon as I do thermal, the fans start spinning again. Processor temp eventually drops to normal (37 C or so). kth5 on IRC noted that it seems like a hardware issue, but I don't believe it could be given that everything normally works fine- the only thing that changed here was ACPI not being in the kernel proper. It looks like the BIOS hands off all responsibility to the kernel as soon as it is loaded, so not having this module really hurts. Tpowa, can you please list these problems? I feel this new issue could strike a lot more people that have similar situations to me, as opposed to the few that were affected before. I don't feel as if a typical Arch user should be required to have certain modules loaded at boot time- this stuff is meant to be in the kernel. How do other distros package and deal with this? Thoughts or comments? -Dan

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[arch-dev-public] Linuxtag '07 - situation slightly changed to the better
by Alexander Baldeck 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hey all, I hope none has forgotten about this years' Linuxtag here in Berlin/Germany. Delmonico - the one in charge for keeping the communication running between us and the Linuxtag staff - has not received any updates whatsoever since for about 2 weeks. Nevertheless, our booth has been approved. We will have a chance to present ourselves again this year but further details about how much space we get and thus how many people we may take on the team, we don't know yet. Once Delmonico is able to report anything he will do so. Anyways, for those who have a longer way to the event and would like to participate I have organized a room in Bootlab where I can accommodate about 5 people. Sleeping bags are of course mandatory. ;) This brings me to the next topic, I'd like to see who actually plans to joins our ranks here. Here because I would like to see at least TUs or even better Devs before bringing in regular users. This is generally a better way to entertain the crowd with people knowing exactly what they're talking about. Well then, hands up guys! :) Cheers, -R

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[arch-dev-public] games group
by Jan de Groot 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hi all, I'm currently busy with the movement of gnome from /opt/gnome to /usr. One of the last packages I need to do is gnome-games, which is everything but fun. Current situation: - gnome-games package, many games, different ones for every major release - several score files per game, created by postinstall/postupgrade with root:user permissions, writable by user, created as 660 files. - score files can change in any release Now a games group would come in handy: - forget about the post_install and score files - install game binaries setgid games - users can't cheat anymore because they can only write score files by executing the game I would propose to add a games group and a directory called /var/games or /var/lib/games with root:games ownership and 775 rights.

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[arch-dev-public] Absence from Duties
by Jeff 'codemac' Mickey 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

As many of you may have heard, 32 members of the Virginia Tech community, and 1 asshole of a human have left this world. I will not be able to tend to my duties as a developer for an unspecified period of time for intensley personal reasons. I hope that none of you ever have to experience this. // codemac -- .: [ + carpe diem totus tuus + ] :.

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