July 2008 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Problems with snort package
by Kessia 'even' Pinheiro 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Hi everyone, I did a snort instalation using the package from extra, but i got some problems. The package does not works after a fresh install. The problems are: - There are some problematic links with /usr/src/lib/snort_* - The conf /etc/snort/snort.conf doesn't load the rules, because the rules arent there! - The start script /etc/rc.d/snort doesn't start because the $SNORT_ARGS is blank. That should be some SNORT_OPTIONS and they are in /etc/conf.d/snort, but are never read. - The /etc/conf.d/snort is never used, and the security or incremental arguments like user, group or interface aren't used. So the user can edit it, but will never have efect. So, after that (and some more problems that i do not remember, I made another package [1], fixed all the problems and made some changes. [1] http://even.archlinux-br.org/things/arch/snort.tar.gz Thats all! -- Kessia Pinheiro Bacharelanda em Ciência da Computação - UFBa Linux Counter User #389695 - [http://counter.li.org] Colaboradora do Projeto Arch Linux Brasil http://even.archlinux-br.org

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[arch-general] latex2rtf missing URL
by Grigorios Bouzakis 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Hi, i was about to file a bug report cause in the web interface latex2rtf is missing the URL string, but then when i browsed SVN i saw that the package included a URL address. So i decided to send this email instead. Is that a bug of the web interface? I dont remember a similar occassion in the past. Greg

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Multilib on Archlinux x86_64
by RedShift 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Thomas Bächler wrote: > Andreas Radke schrieb: >> It's more a question what Arch64 was founded for: to be the bleading >> edge leading _pure_ 64bit distro around. That's been its goal since the >> project has started. And I think we did a good job. >> >> You may have missed the early discussions when we made decisions that >> we don't want (though we have could have) multilib compatibility and >> bi-arch gcc. That was a strict law. It was our way to push the efforts >> to once get it the same level where the x86 world is. > > I missed the discussions, maybe. But this is not a discussion we had a > few years ago, this is the discussion we are having now. And just saying > "A few years ago, we wanted it this way" is not a good reason. > >> Offering 32bit compat stuff always means to make it easy for users > > No, not to make it easy, but make it possible. As I said in my reply to > Daniel, I need a 64 bit OS, but I also need mixed 32/64 bit environments. > >> but takes much pressure from companies and opensource developers give >> the x86_64 architecture the time and responsibility it is worth. You >> can compare it to the question to support closed source stuff or not. >> We made our decision long ago. So please respect it. > > We never denied closed source software out of principle. We always made > things "just work". I want standard applications to "just work", without > having to bother about which architecture I am on. > > Now, again, you gave me a list of ideological reasons not to do it, but > where exactly is the point where this damages your "pure" system > technically? > It's about the technical purity. It's this that makes us different from the other distro's. Otherwise we're just on the road to the next ubuntu. And if you really want 32 bit stuff running on x86-64, just use a 32 bit chroot and don't bother with the multilib stuff. Glenn

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Multilib on Archlinux x86_64
by Loui 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:25:44PM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > I have to side with Thomas here on the fact that no technical > arguments were brought up. That irks me just a bit - that "no because > no" seems to be a valid reason. It's not. > > That said, I am very very neutral on this. Thomas' plan does not > integrate anything at all, it just puts some 32bit libs in a parallel > repo for people to use if they want to (read: users can choose). A > pristine system is all well and good, but as we can all tell from the > existence of the lib32- packages in community, it's not what everyone > wants. What Thomas is proposing is keeping the pristine system > pristine unless someone wants to install the 32bit stuff. I don't have > a problem with this rationale. > > *But* I think it is a bit important that we look at why we're doing > this - for a handful (5 or 6) closed source apps. flash, teamspeak, > skype, google-earth (and wine). It seems like a lot of work for a > handful of apps. That's why I'm neutral on this. I think the rationale > is sound, but it sounds like a lot of forward MOTION for little > forward PROGRESS. Well there's nothing stopping people from creating their own 32bit library repos for x86_64. So just get together and do it eh? That's why there are things like kdemod and a new arch-games repo.

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[arch-general] /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolc.conf.tail
by timetrap 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Hi, this is my first message to arch-general. I have been helping a user on the forums who needs multiple search domains in his /etc/resolv.conf file. His original question was this: "Our DHCP isolates clients to a separate subnet than the servers. As such, unless you fully qualify the server name, you can't find the server. A work around is to put the IP in the hosts file, but there are just too many servers to do that with. Another option is to add the search domain(s) in the to the end of the search line in resolv.conf, however that file is re-written by dhcpcd, so changes are quickly lost. Is there a way to add on search domains to what DHCP hands your system?" I have done some research and found that the BSDs have a particularly nice solution to this; /etc/resolv.conf.tail Basically, it does this: #!/bin/bash if [ -f /etc/resolv.conf.tail ]; then cat /etc/resolv.conf.tail >> /etc/resolv.conf fi I am still new to arch, and I don't know who exactly deals with this portion of the distro. Is this something that can be made standard? It seems like a very simple fix. Very useful too. Here is the forum posting: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=388345#p388345 --timetrap

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.25.10
by RedShift 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Thomas Bächler wrote: > Just a bump to .10 and a minor configuration change (AOE added). It is > built with gcc 4.3.1, so if any binary modules break, please tell me. > It may be smart to wait for GCC 4.3.2 to come out, because of this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451068 Glenn

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Re: [arch-general] community/mc-utf8 to extra/mc
by Gerhard Brauer 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:01:09PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Sergej Pupykin wrote: >> >> I see that mc with utf8 support is in extra now, so I delete mc-utf8 >> from community and ask someone who can do it: >> >> please reassign http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10376 to the new maintainer. > > Do you know if this bug is valid for the new mc in extra. If so I will > move/reassign it. Yes it also under mc 4.6.1-5. But this is a very minor thing, and i noticed that this only occurs whit german locale (ok, i don't tested others). But with LANG=C this doesn't happend. So it's maybe a (german) locale issue (false translation character in .po ?). > Allan Gerhard -- Kernel panic: Could not determine whether bit was one, zero or sqrt(1/PI)... (J.K. in d-u-g)

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[arch-general] kernel vga setting problems
by Ralph Alvy 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Why is it that after the last few upgrades with pacman I can't use any 'vga=nnn' setting anymore in my grub menu.lst? I used to use 'vga=792' 'vga=795', if memory serves me here. I keep ending up with a message at boot time that tells me the video mode selected is no recognized.

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Re: [arch-general] usb keyboard and mouse
by Sergej Pupykin 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

I try usbhid (as Celti say) driver and it seems it works, but I file a bug anyway. I think 2 more drivers would not be unnecessary. I don't try Emulate3Buttons=false, I'll do it today with mouse driver..

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[arch-general] community/mc-utf8 to extra/mc
by Sergej Pupykin 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

Hello, I see that mc with utf8 support is in extra now, so I delete mc-utf8 from community and ask someone who can do it: please reassign http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10376 to the new maintainer.

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