March 2010 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I still have kde3 installed primarily because the apps konqueror (a real konqueror) kwrite, kate, etc. in kde3 are much lighter to run in fluxbox or other wm's than the kde4 apps and the kde3 apps don't spew reams of text to your xterm when they run. Are there any tips or trick to keeping these apps viable a bit longer? If so, how? The error I get is probably just a sym link issue: 13:47 archangel:~> /opt/kde/bin/konqueror --profile filemanagement /opt/kde/bin/konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I then start the kde4 version and suddenly I have 5,000 lines of crap on my xterm: 17:10 archangel:~> konqueror --profile filemanagement konqueror(20906)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::checkDatabase: We have no database.... launching kdeinit konqueror(20906)/kdecore (kdelibs) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) klauncher(20918)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherT20918.slave-socket" kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::processRequestReturn: "/usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4" (pid 20924) up and running. kbuildsycoca4 running... kbuildsycoca4(20924)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::checkTimestamps: checking file timestamps kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::checkDirTimestamps: timestamp changed: "/usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/" kbuildsycoca4(20924) kdemain: Reusing existing ksycoca kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::recreate: Recreating ksycoca file ("/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4", version 162) kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "okularGenerator.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-applet.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kwineffect.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "solidpowermanager.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-packagestructure.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kopeteplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "krfb-framebuffer.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "ktexteditor_loadsavefiltercheckplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kpropertiesdialogplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kcmoduleinit.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kateplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "dbustexttospeech.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kregexpeditor.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "solidremotecontrolmanager.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "korganizerpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-containment.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "krdc_plugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kompareviewpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "screensaver.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kerfufflePlugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "thumbcreator.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-scriptengine.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kdedmodule.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kmediaplayer.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "findpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-wallpaper.desktop" <big snip> konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/ss" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/scripts" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/dcrsig" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/img" konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorw20906.slave-socket" konqueror(20906)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave "thumbnail" for KUrl("thumbnail:/home/david/img") konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorP20906.slave-socket" klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::requestSlave: KLauncher: launching new slave "kio_thumbnail" with protocol= "thumbnail" args= ("thumbnail", "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherT20918.slave-socket", "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorP20906.slave-socket") kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_thumbnail.so klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::processRequestReturn: "kio_thumbnail" (pid 20933) up and running. kio_thumbnail(20933)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4" kio_thumbnail(20933)/kdecore (trader) KMimeTypeTrader::query: query for mimeType "text/plain" , "ThumbCreator" : returning 1 offers konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOJob) KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch: error 104 "Cannot create thumbnail for directory" If possible, I would very much like to have the kde3 versions running. Can I just sym link to the latest libpng? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Thunderbird 3 annoyance
by David Rosenstrauch 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I'm having a little annoyance with TBird 3, and was wondering if anyone was experiencing the same thing and/or had a workaround. I have a large tree of folders in TBird, from 2 different IMAP accounts. So I use the "Unread Folders" view, in conjunction with the mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new config setting. Problem is that since the upgrade to TBird 3, when TBird grabs new email, it automatically selects a different folder in the left ("Unread Folders") pane. This is really irritating. I really want TBird to just stay on the folder I've selected - no matter whether it gets new email or not. Anyone know how to fix this? Is there some magic new config setting for this? I tried googling on this, but it's hard to find good search terms to describe the problem. Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Nilesh Govindarajan 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hi, I'm experiencing this problem from quite a long time. But I don't know why. I have a LG DVD Writer. It supports writing and reading DVD-R DVD+R DVD-RW DVD+RW, all CDs and some other DVD flavors I don't remember. I tried a Fedora boot DVD at boot, it worked. But inside arch (it was the same problem with fedora), it won't work. I don't think this needs any special driver because previously I'd never configured a special driver for that. CD's work fine though. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] kernel26 2.6.32.10-1 Boot Failure at initrd/initramfs
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I just attempted an update which installed kernel26 2.6.32.10-1 on my x86_64 box. After the update, the box failed to boot and the boot process stopped at the initrd/initramfs. (I have the slash because I can't remember the exact init----) But it was very early in the boot process. I have checked logs and nothing for this boot attempt was written to the logs. I suspect it was too early in the boot process for logging to be enabled. I have never tried to recover from a failed arch boot before. What's the proper way. Boot with the install cd and chroot your install and either downgrade to the last kernel or try mkinitcpio again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] pdftk - almost build but died - need help figuring out if I can find a work-around
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I need pdftk for a script I use that does fax processing. I ran into this problem 6-7 months ago, but still had another server with pdftk on it so it wasn't critical. Now, I need to solve it. Currently pdftk in AUR is out of date due to it a dependency of gcc-gcj requiring it to be built against gcc-4.3. The building gcc-4.3 and then gcc-gcj part of the pdftk build goes fine (takes forever, but goes fine). The build seems to crater on a java-lib issue. Here is the actual error with a few lines of context: patching file pdftk/Makefile.Base patching file java_libs/com/lowagie/text/pdf/PdfEncryption.java patching file java_libs/Makefile make -C ../java_libs make[1]: Entering directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs' make -C "/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text"; make[2]: Entering directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text' gcj -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -w --encoding=UTF-8 --classpath="/usr/share/java/libgcj-4.3.jar:/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs" -c Anchor.java -o Anchor.o Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.9) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}} at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.9) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.9) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.9) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.9) make[2]: *** [Anchor.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text' make[1]: *** [itext] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs' make: *** [java_libs] Error 2 The problem is I am no good at figuring out what this is telling me I need to do to fix it. I know there was an exception thrown in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ........ what I don't know is whether this is telling me there is a javalib version mismatch or something similar and whether this is something I might work around by loading/building some alternative java package, etc.. If you have any idea what is going on here, please pass along a pointer or two. If this is just one of those areas where I'm screwed and there isn't a way around it -- well knowing that would be helpful too. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Abort forced filesystem check on boot
by Rorschach 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hi, I have written a small patch for rc.sysinit which gives the user the ability to abort a forced filesystem check with pressing the escape-key. I haven't found another feature-request in the bugtracker for this so I opened one: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18400 . What do you think about it?

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[arch-general] HAL depreciation
by Damjan Georgievski 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Does anyone know how much of HAL is needed in ArchLinux these days? I'm asking because I've learned that both udev and HAL configure the keymap of input devices nowdays and I wonder what other former HAL features are already implemented in udev. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates
by Denis Kobozev 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi archers, It has been repeated a lot of times that doing piecemeal updates with pacman -Sy pkgname is not a very good idea. What about ignoring packages? Is it as dangerous? And a more general question: is it even theoretically possible to have a bleeding edge distro with piecemeal updates and with no required manual intervention during updates or is it just a pipe dream? Best, Denis.

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[arch-general] Arch is ummnn different: my 1st installation: tried to install xfce...OOPS!
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hello, I've been using various Linux distros for a while now. I just decided to give Arch Linux a try. But I'm a little bit lost. I'm used to distros like Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, etc... Where I don't need to personally understand what order I need to install which packages to get at least one GUI desktop up & running... The install itself went ok. But I needed to add a few things. First I used the list of typical tasks for pacman from the installation guide, to figure out how to look for a package and install it with pacman. I installed mc and vim without a problem. Then I thought it would be nice if I could get a desktop up. I did a: pacman -Si xfce|less and looked for a package that might get me to a minimal desktop I could work with. I thought maybe xfdesktop... pacman -S xfdesktop It wanted (I think) 26 packages to satisfy the dependencies... Sounded low to me but what do I know? I figured the next step would be to ask for help (or a good step by step how-to) But sooner or later I was going to want xfce so I said yes... I didn't get any errors until the last package (xfdesktop itself) Then there was an error with a line number (oops I didn't write it down) And I think something about gtk & icons, (something not existing...) <sigh> {If I'd figured out how to activate GPM I'd have pasted the error into a text file so that I could accurately report what it said.} When pacman reports an error, listing just one line number like that, does it stop processing. Or does the fact that there was only one error (about icons I think) mean that everything else in the package installed successfully??? More to the point: Will I need to figure out how to uninstall xfdesktop to resolve the error? Could some nice Arch user point me at enough step by step instructions so that I can get enough of a gui up to use a browser like firefox so I can try to find solutions via the web while Arch is actually running??? Please! -- | ^^^ ^^^ | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> | ' `

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[arch-general] Hacking into HAL's mount process
by Nilesh Govindarajan 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

By default HAL adds the flush flag when USB devices are mounted... I think which is what making WRITEs slow. I want that HAL shouldn't add the flush flag. How to ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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