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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] At last, clean multilib support
by Rogutės Sparnuotos 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Rémy Oudompheng (2010-08-23 13:16): > On 2010/8/23, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 12:54 +0200, Rémy Oudompheng wrote: > >> What kind of packages are expected to be found in a multilib > >> repository? > >> Should we keep with core/extra packages, leaving 32-bit versions of > >> community packages to AUR ? In more down-to-earth terms: are we going > >> to have glibc/gtk2/firefox/flashplugin in the same place ? > > > > Firefox probably not, but a 32bit flashplugin and its dependencies are > > one of the candidates. Another thing that comes to mind is Wine, as > > there's no native 64bit port of that available. > > > > At this moment community is crowded with broken 32bit crap which is just > > i686 packages copied to a different location (in /opt... ew), where > > hardcoded configuration files still point to the old i686 locations. An > > example of this is gtk2 trying to load 64bit plugins all the time. > > Did I miss something or the 32 bit flashplugin can only be used in a > 32-bit browser ? Wouldn't it be unconvenient to have the plugin in the > repo without some widely used browser ? <...> 64bit Opera can use 32bit Flash (but the 32bit flashplugin needs a bunch of lib32-* packages from community, which have packaging problems as mentioned by Jan). -- -- Rogutės Sparnuotos

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[arch-general] [PATCH] restrict NETWORK_PERSIST to runlevel 0 and 6
by Florian Pritz 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Signed-off-by: Florian Pritz <bluewind(a)xssn.at> --- network | 2 +- rc.shutdown | 2 ++ 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/network b/network index 977e81e..d1ecdde 100755 --- a/network +++ b/network @@ -233,7 +233,7 @@ case "$1" in # exit #fi - if [ "${NETWORK_PERSIST}" = "yes" -o "${NETWORK_PERSIST}" = "YES" ]; then + if [ "${NETWORK_PERSIST}" = "yes" -o "${NETWORK_PERSIST}" = "YES" ] && [[ $RUNLEVEL = 0 || $RUNLEVEL = 6 ]] ; then status "Skipping Network Shutdown" true exit 0 fi diff --git a/rc.shutdown b/rc.shutdown index 4eb29cc..bbd4444 100755 --- a/rc.shutdown +++ b/rc.shutdown @@ -3,6 +3,8 @@ # /etc/rc.shutdown # +export RUNLEVEL PRELEVEL + . /etc/rc.conf . /etc/rc.d/functions -- 1.7.2.1

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] At last, clean multilib support
by Mauro Santos 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

On 08/23/2010 12:18 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > - skype (needs qt, which is huge, so maybe this will take a while) You mean to have skype readily available for the 64bit version? That would be nice (one less thing to fetch from AUR :p ). I guess the staticqt version could be used in the meantime, I've been using it for a good while and it has been working fine. I think the staticqt version can also help avoid some minor inconveniences that plague skype when there is a qt update, such as missing avatars. -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] makepkg devel_check svn issue
by Andrea Fagiani 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hello, A little background : when updating a svn package with makepkg, svn info gets called (in the devel_check function) and then the "Last Changed Rev" extracted from its output and $pkgver updated accordingly. However, while compiling stjerm-svn [1] (which I maintain in the AUR, btw) I end up with a package that has pkgver=256 , but the actual revision checked out by svn is 262. I suspect it may be due to the fact that rev 257 created a new branch (you can find the repository here) [2]. This could be easily fixed by considering the "Revision" value (instead of "Last Changed Rev") in the svn info output. Question is, is this the desired behavior or did I just stumble into a bug (and should, therefore, report it) ? Andrea [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27759 [2] https://code.google.com/p/stjerm-terminal/source/checkout

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.3-1
by Tobias Powalowski 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

Latest kernel is in testing, please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] usb-storage and processor C-states
by JM 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

Hello, I have two boxes: Pentium M / i915 / ICH7 and Via C7 / CN 700 / VT8237R. Both processors support C-states 0 through 3. Both southbridges support USB 2.0 (ehci). Yet when I plug in an usb flash drive into the Via C7 box the processor can no longer go into the C3 sleep state (C2 becomes the lowest possible) while the Pentium M box does not display this behavior and still happily idles in the C3 state. I'd like to poke upstream about it but I need to know more. What is to blame? Could this be a Southbridge/CPU/BIOS limitation, or is it driver's fault? How do I debug this further? Any help would be appreciated. Regards, JM

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[arch-general] Gnome/Gtk-2.0 BLING! (list of surprisingly cool themes)
by David C. Rankin 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

Listmates, I stumbled across some absolutely killer gtk-2.0 & metacity themes that caught my eye. If you use gnome, Xfce, etc.., give them a try and I guarantee you, you will be blown away. They are available at gnome-look or Xfce-look.org sites or by googling the theme name. Most also come with an emerald theme as well as part of the package. Here is the short list: ** Abstract-DarkGlow Aero-ion3.1 Black Plastic V.2 ** Blue-Joy Correcamins DarkVision DiMurrineGTK Dust (Dust Burnt, and the rest of the Dust ... themes) Elegant Aurora (and the other Elegant....) Glow Fire (Lava, Flower, Cinder ...) Harvest Industrial-Glacier (GONYX, Lighthouse, Charcoal, Zeta, ...) Moomex Nova-Blue (Gold, etc...) Overglossed Oxygen-Molecule River Shifte_Black ShinyBlack Silence ** SlicknesS-black SphereCrystal Tenebrific-BlueMods Vision Xfce-cadmium (many of the Xfce themes also have matching gtk themes) Zniavre ** (top 3 for me - the rest are a close 4th) And the screenshot giving an example of Blue-Joy and SlicknesS-black: (86k) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/ss/gnome/gnome-bling.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] At last, clean multilib support
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

On 22.08.2010 11:25, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 22.08.2010 10:39, schrieb Thomas Bächler: >> Jan Steffens and me spent the this weekend putting together a multilib >> toolchain and a clean lib32-glibc package. I wanted to do this for at >> least two years, and we finally managed to do it on FrOSCon now. This is >> the plan of attack on this: >> >> * Maintain the PKGBUILDs in svn-community/${pkgname}/trunk/ >> * Create a separate repo 'multilib', >> (svn-community/${pkgname}/repos/multilib-x86_64) >> * Remove ALL multilib packages from community. Do NOT mix pure 64 bit >> with multilib. All multilib must go into the new multilib repository. >> * Rebuild all multilib packages with the multilib compiler to solve the >> numerous problems encountered by the hackish "copy our 32 bit packages >> into another path" approach. >> * Find TUs and Devs willing to work on multilib (please add your name to >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multilib_Project) >> >> Any comments are welcome. We will upload the multilib packages and >> PKGBUILDs into a small test repository in a minute for review. > A temporary repository is up: http://pkgbuild.com/~heftig/multilib/ > This looks like it could break Arch Linux as a whole. I'm in!

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[arch-general] ALSA volume control
by Nilesh Govindarajan 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

My sound card has two sockets each for mic & output. One set in the front & another in the rear. I connect headphone to the front one and the rear one is connected to a power amplifier. I can see headphone control in alsamixer, kmix, but I can't adjust its volume separately, only mute/unmute it. What tweaks are needed to get this feature? -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com VPS Hosting: http://www.itech7.com/a/vps

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[arch-general] /etc/profile PATH variable wrong
by Jude DaShiell 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

In order for that to be correct it needs to also have :/usr/local/bin inside of the quote marks. The /usr/local/bin directory on Linux systems like slackware and debian is where stuff gets put that anyone can execute that's on the system. I put a simple shell script I wrote there then tried to use it and it wouldn't work until I keyed in the /usr/local/bin/myd command. That small script makes the date and time more readable for me. Since that file was copied from suse, people in that other distribution probably also ought to be notified.

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