May 2012 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Rename extra/python-pygame to extra/python2-pygame
by nado＠troglodyte.be 24 May '12

24 May '12

Hi folks, Since there is a python3 port fort pygame, maybe should we rename the package for python2 with the python version precision. What do you think ? -- Pazdera Corentin (Nado) Clé PGP/PGP key : http://troglodyte.be/pub/pubkey.pgp.asc

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[arch-general] [EOL] Support for fcpci and fcpcmcia will end with kernel 3.4.x series!
by Tobias Powalowski 24 May '12

24 May '12

Hi community, today I got the message from Karsten Keil that latest capi20 support for passive isdn cards will be merged into kernel 3.5 series. This means there is no need to manually patch an old binary blob anymore and those 2 packages will be removed from the repositories. If you need capi20 support you have to switch to kernel misdn driver + misdnuser package. Have fun, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [easytag] call for maintainer / drop package
by Tom Gundersen 23 May '12

23 May '12

Hi guys, Easytag is unmaintained and no longer builds against the newest version of libmp4v2, and they have no patches for this (as far as I can tell) upstream. Does anyone want to take on easytag to sort this out, or should we drop the package to community (does any TU's want it?), or to AUR? A short-term solution (which I'll do if no one steps up to take it over) would be to drop support for mp4 from easytag. Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.7-1
by Tobias Powalowski 23 May '12

23 May '12

Hi guys, please signoff 3.3.7 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.4.0 is in [testing]. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.7-1
by Simon Perry 23 May '12

23 May '12

I hope this posts ok (and in the right spot)... Using tpowa's 3.3.7 kernel on: - Core 2 Duo home server box - Dell 1420N laptop - Frantech KVM VPS All booted fine, no issues. Sign off? -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz)

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[arch-general] Fwd: Core package [libusb] marked out-of-date
by Tobias Powalowski 23 May '12

23 May '12

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Core package [libusb] marked out-of-date Datum: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:12:24 -0000 Von: Arch Website Notification <nobody(a)archlinux.org> An: tpowa(a)archlinux.org zhang(a)citrix.com wants to notify you that the following packages may be out-of-date: * libusb 1.0.9-1 [core] (i686): https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/libusb/ * libusb 1.0.9-1 [core] (x86_64): https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/libusb/ The user provided the following additional text: No stable releases in more than a year and a half. Should be replaced by libusbx : http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/libusbx

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[arch-general] is scsi hot swap broken?
by Sergey Manucharian 23 May '12

23 May '12

Hi folks, Just noticed after the recent update to kernel 3.3.6, an attempt to remove a SATA HDD: # echo scsi remove-single-device 3 0 0 0 > /proc/scsi/scsi takes very long time: $ dmesg sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronizing SCSI cache sd 3:0:0:0: timing out command, waited 360s sd 3:0:0:0: timing out command, waited 360s sd 3:0:0:0: timing out command, waited 360s sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x00 sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Stopping disk then adding an another HDD to ANY scsi channel does not work anymore. I've checked three differeent HDDs with the same result. The controller is : $ lspci | grep SATA 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01) I used to use the hot swapping frequently before, never had such a problem. Am I missing something? Thanks for advices/ideas. Sergey

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[arch-general] Cannot record any video in gnome since last nvidia update on [testing]
by fredbezies 22 May '12

22 May '12

Hello. Everything is in the subject, adding that I'm using gnome and its record tool. Got this in my .xsession-errors log file : Recording to /home/fred/Vidéos/Vidéo d'écran 22-05-2012 11:55:53.webm Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension ** Message: Error: Le flux ne contient aucune donnée. gsttypefindelement.c(954): gst_type_find_element_activate (): /GstPlayBin2:play/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin0/GstDecodeBin2:decodebin20/GstTypeFindElement:typefind: Can't typefind empty stream totem-video-thumbnailer couldn't process file: 'file:///home/fred/Vid%C3%A9os/Vid%C3%A9o%20d'%C3%A9cran%2022-05-2012%2011:55:53.webm' Reason: Took too much time to process. webm file is only 300 bytes. Any idea ? -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] NAS drive revisited
by P .NIKOLIC 21 May '12

21 May '12

Hi .. I am still not able to write to my external NAS drive an iomega home media drive So lets approach it from a different angle we will say i have not done anything yet just plugged it into the network What packages am i looking to install and what configuration changes do i need to make . I am trying this way round as i am chasing my tail up somewhere dark and nasty right now . I know the drive works perfectly i have just tried it with an old Suse distro on the Laptop and instant read/write no problem now if it can work on there why wont it work on Arch .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 13 10:52:32 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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[arch-general] rubygems, the arch way and the aur
by martin kalcher 21 May '12

21 May '12

Hey archers, i am not sure if this topic belongs to aur-devel or arch-general so i will post it here, because i think the aur-devel readers will read this list too. I think rubygems is very nice. It makes it pretty easy to manage your gems and it doesnt conflict with the "Arch way" as long as you install your gems in your $HOME. But many users want system wide available gems. Hmm, no problem with the --no-user-install switch, pretty KISS. But it violates the "Arch way" at the point, that we want to use pacman to install software, because we know and trust pacman and we dont want to use random software to install/remove files at critical locations of our systems. There are some solutions. Many people uploaded ruby-* PKGBUILDs to the AUR. Great Idea. But they are constantly out of date, because it requires some work to keep on track with rubygems.org (I am not sure if this is a correct english sentence, but i think you will get it.). So somebody wrote pacgem, wich is a ok idea, but its a little bit outdated too. I think the AUR solution is better, but we have to solve the problem with the outdated PKGBUILDs. My suggestions I wrote a simple python script that creates PKGBUILDs from the rubygems.org API. I wrote it just to figure out if this works, so its pretty straight forward and i dont want to publish it it yet. It worked quite nice - it can resolve dependencies and stuff like that - but there is one problem at the moment. The API does not provide any checksums for the gems, but i opened an feature request [0]. With this script i could imagine two things. Setting up a virtual AUR user, who handles all ruby-* packages. Then we create a rubygems account for this user, so we can create a custom rubygems feed for this user, with the gems we have in the AUR. Once a day a script checks the feed for updated gems and creates new PKGBUILDs, if needed. Pretty awesome! If it is possible to integrate this into the AUR, this would be my favorite solution. But i could imagine, that some of you will yell: 'This not what we consider KISS!' The second solution is to provide my own litte archgems website, that does exactly the same. But having this stuff at a single place (AUR) would be really cool. Let me know, what you are thinking. Cheers, ushi [0] https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems.org/issues/427

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[arch-general] acpi_listen has no output of Lenovo mic mute button , while ubuntu does
by Aaron Lewis 20 May '12

20 May '12

Hi, I'm running latest Arch Linux ( Linux kerenl 3.3+ ) / Ubuntu 12.04 (3.2 +) acpi_listen has no output of mic mute button on Arch Linux , but Ubuntu does. (xev has no output on both Linux system) Where should I start from ? Thanks -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xDFE6C29E ( http://keyserver.veridis.com ) Finger Print: 9482 448F C7C3 896C 1DFE 7DD3 2492 A7D0 DFE6 C29E

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[arch-general] makepkg is creating BOTH a /pkg and pkgusr on build??
by David C. Rankin 18 May '12

18 May '12

Guys, Building a small app (GNU External Ballistic Calculator) for Arch. When the PKGBUILD goes to package the file it create both /pkg /pkgusr directories. It puts the .PKGINFO in /pkg and then the executable and libs under /pkgusr -- what is up with that?? Anybody seen this before? I've grepped the source (Makefiles, etc..) and there is no reference to "pkgusr" so what's up? Literally, the package part creates: 00:21 nirvana:~/arch/pkg/bld/tmp> ls -l total 268 drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 00:13 pkg drwxr-xr-x 4 david david 4096 May 18 00:13 pkgusr drwxr-xr-x 3 david david 4096 May 18 00:03 src -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 560 May 18 00:13 gebc-1.07-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 136471 May 17 23:58 gebc-1.07-src.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 107212 May 17 23:58 gebc.diff -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 904 May 17 23:58 gebc-fl_draw.diff -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1393 May 17 23:57 PKGBUILD 00:21 nirvana:~/arch/pkg/bld/tmp> l pkg total 12 drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 00:13 . drwxr-xr-x 5 david david 4096 May 18 00:13 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 573 May 18 00:13 .PKGINFO 00:21 nirvana:~/arch/pkg/bld/tmp> ls -l pkgusr total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 00:13 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 May 18 00:13 lib The resulting package gebc-1.07-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz doesn't contain anything but the pkginfo file. Where do I look to figure out why this new /pkgusr dir has popped up? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Is fcitx must executed under a chinese locale?
by adrian sun 17 May '12

17 May '12

Hi buddy, I am using fcitx for inputting chinese words. I got a problem. If I change my locale to en_US.UTF-8, I can not invoke FCITX by pressing the 'CTRL+Space'. After I changed my locale to zh_CN.UTF-8, FCITX worked well. The question is can I use FCITX under the english locale? if I can, how to configure it? I read the english wiki of fcitx and it says I should check my locale. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fcitx Well, only if I change locale to chinese, FCITX works. For some reasons, I dont want to work under a chinese environment. I find a little difference on wikis that chinese wiki says I can work under english locale, but the way I tried didn't work. Any idea or solution? Thanks!!! Adrian.

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[arch-general] Console font not working anymore
by "Jérôme M. Berger" 17 May '12

17 May '12

Hi, Following a system update, I noticed that the console font is not set anymore (I can't tell how recent this is since I don't go to the console everyday). After some judicious editing of /etc/rc.d/functions (to remove a 2>/dev/null and add a sleep so that I can see the error messages) and some googling, I found that the issue was due to the framebuffer not being initialized. I now have two issues: First issue: how can I find the right value for the vga= option? According to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Framebuffer_resolution there are three ways, none of which work: - GRUB recognized value -> does not list my monitor resolution (1920x1080) and the other 16:9 codes listed (1280x720) appear to be wrong since they result in a distorted display; - hwinfo --framebuffer -> does not show anything. I looked through the full hwinfo output without options, but there didn't seem to be anything framebuffer related there; - vbetest -> does not work in 64 bits. Second issue: when I activate the framebuffer with some default resolution (say 1024x768 vga=773), the font is set properly, but it is not kept: a few seconds after setting the font, the screen resolution changes and the font goes back to the default. Once the computer has finished booting, if I log in as root, source /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.d/functions, then call set_consolefont manually, the console fonts are set properly and kept until I reboot. I have a fully up to date 64bits Arch install. The relevant hardware is: - CPU: Athlon 64X2 3800+ - Graphic card: ATI Radeon HD 4350 - Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster P2370 Thanks in advance, Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger(a)jabber.fr

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[arch-general] error installing package that relies on soprano (k9copy)
by D. R. Evans 17 May '12

17 May '12

When I try to install k9copy, I receive the following error message: :: Retrieving packages from extra... error: failed retrieving file 'soprano-2.7.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.archlinux.org : Given file does not exist 1. Is this a packaging error of some kind (presumably in the k9copy package)? 2. Is there something I can do to allow me to avoid this problem and install k9copy? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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[arch-general] Timing issues when decrypting a USB drive during boot (/etc/crypttab)
by Julius Adorf 14 May '12

14 May '12

Hello, Recently, I tried to automatically unlock an encrypted external USB hard drive on Arch Linux. I have done this by inserting an appropriate entry into /etc/crypttab. I chose the device to be unlocked by cryptsetup with a key file by UUID. Unfortunately, the unlocking failed at boot time ("device does not exist or access denied"). After some debugging via /etc/rc.sysinit, I found out that it is a timing issue and the USB drive which is a couple of years old was not ready yet at the time the /etc/crypttab was read and processed. A similar issue has been reported here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137467 For now, I have inserted a workaround into /etc/rc.local which unlocks the disk after an initial delay. This is still programming by coincidence; I wonder whether there is any better (i.e. reliable) solution to this problem? Best, Julius

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[arch-general] broken zip after upgrade
by Arno Gaboury 13 May '12

13 May '12

Dear list, after a whole bunch of fresh upgrades yesterday, 2012/05/12, I can not unzip with File Roller (default app), with expanding tar.gz still working. Here are the two error messages: */There is no command installed for Zip archive files. Do you want to search for a command to open this file?/* Then I click on search command button, it brings a new window: */There was an internal error trying to search for applications: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files/* I have no certitude, but I suspect the outdated polkit 0.104 could be the culprit. There is a new 0.105 version since a few weeks on the website: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/snapshot/polkit-0.105.tar.gz Following instructions, I was able to build it fine, but I don't want to make install on my system, as I understand it is a good way to break it. I decided to create a package following the Archwiki. Here is my PKGBUILD file : /*# $Id$ # Maintainer: Jan de Groot <jgc(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=polkit pkgver=0.105 pkgrel=2 pkgdesc="Application development toolkit for controlling system-wide privileges" arch=(i686 x86_64) license=('LGPL') url="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit" depends=('glib2' 'pam' 'expat') makedepends=('intltool' 'gtk-doc' 'gobject-introspection') replaces=('policykit') options=('!libtool') source=(http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/snapshot/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz) md5sums=('ad070a194d444fa89f627fd54a124fad') build() { cd $pkgname-$pkgver autoconf ./autogen.sh make } check() { cd $pkgname-$pkgver make -k check } package() { cd $pkgname-$pkgver make DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install install -m644 "$srcdir/polkit.pam" "$pkgdir/etc/pam.d/polkit-1" }*/ I corrected the old 0.104 one according to the new changes. I have problem with md5sums, and have no real idea how to write the numbers. makepkg returns an error : /*Validating source files with md5sums... polkit-0.105.tar.gz ... FAILED*/ So 2 questions : how to deal with this md5sums error? Once this issue is solved, can I makepkg and install on my system, whitout breaking anything? TY for any help.

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[arch-general] wallpaper for 1920x1080 screens.
by Boris Le Ninivin 12 May '12

12 May '12

Hi everyone. I've made this wallpaper http://borisln.deviantart.com/art/Archlinux-Wallpaper-1-300929958 since I didn't find any red wallpaper which pleased me, big enough for my screen in the official package, nor on Google images. It's licensed under creative commons BY-SA, so if one wants to put it in the official archlinux-wallpaper package, feel free to do so :) Also, if anyone has any remarks or anything to say about it, I'm all ears. Have a nice day!

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[arch-general] FS#29803 - Kernel 3.3.4-2 panic
by Fabiano Furtado Pessoa Coelho 12 May '12

12 May '12

Hi, Following Dave's comment (https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/29803) I've generated my initramfs, reinstalling the linux package: pacman -S linux What can I do to fix this problem? Thank you!!!

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[arch-general] standards on AUR content
by Ruslan Nabioullin 11 May '12

11 May '12

I believe that there should be more comprehensive, clear, and explicit standards on what content is allowed to be installed by an AUR package. There already exist two guidelines [1]: 1. usefulness: "Make sure the package is useful. Will anyone else want to use this package? Is it extremely specialized? If more than a few people would find this package useful, it is appropriate for submission." 2. IP, content type (?) restrictions: "For most cases, everything is permitted, as long as you are in compliance with the licensing terms of the software..." The former is acceptable because "usefulness" is inherently subjective. The latter does state an important restriction regarding IP, but implicitly assumes that only software is permissible for AUR packages, when in fact there exist packages within the AUR which install only non-executable data. I believe that it is overall community consensus that such packages are permissible as long as they install documentation for a particular software package, a set of *closely*-related software packages, or the Archlinux distro as a whole (e.g., offline Archlinux wiki), and that documentation not directly applicable to the aforementioned, any standards (e.g., FHS, OFM), and any books (e.g., Pro Git) are outside the scope of the AUR. Any ideas? Do these proposed standards accurately reflect community consensus? [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository -Ruslan -- Ruslan Nabioullin rnabioullin(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] drop slim in favor of lightdm
by Christian Hesse 09 May '12

09 May '12

Hello everybody, slim has some known security weaknesses (for example it has no separate greeter process thus the graphical interface is running with super user privileges) and a lot of open bugs. Additionally it does not support latest packages (consolekit and friends) out of the box. Though lately the SVN got some commits and a new version has been released the arch package has not been updated since it was flagged out of date in February. I propose to drop slim from [extra] and replace it with lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter. This is a very active project with responsive upstream developer. Security is a key feature and it integrates with latest desktop techniques really well. The AUR package for lightdm has 259 votes at the time of writing. Any thoughts on that? -- main(a,b){char*/* Schoene Gruesse */c="B?IJj;M" "EHCX:;";for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);}

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-projects] netcfg status?
by Thomas Bächler 09 May '12

09 May '12

Am 09.05.2012 16:38, schrieb Jouke Witteveen: > The latest version is in testing for no more than five days now. I > sent a mail regarding the move to core: > http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-projects/2012-April/002765.html > Not much has happened since and I am quite confident in the state of > the code. Some things are a bit hacky still, but it shouldn't be worse > than it has always been. The main issue at the moment is the wiki. I > am not against moving to core by the end of the week. Alright, the end of the week it is then (unless major bugs occur).

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[arch-general] procps dependency
by Arno Gaboury 09 May '12

09 May '12

I am trying to build and burn the archboot iso file on my x86_64 Arch. *|[gabx@magnolia Desktop]$ sudo pacman -S archboot Password: resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "procps>=3.2.8-4", a dependency of "archboot" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: archboot Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n|* procps-ng 3.3.2-2 is installed on my box. ** From what I read and understand, Arch went recently from procps to procps-ng, so it is normal that my system doesn't have anymore the procps package listed as installed and I can safely ignore. Please can someone confirm?

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[arch-general] RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch
by Patrick Lauer 09 May '12

09 May '12

Greetings, in the last months there have been many discussions about init systems, especially systemd. The current state seems to make no one really happy - the current Arch Linux init system is a bit minimal and gets the job done, but it's not superawesome. There's things like init script dependencies that would be nice to have, but then it's about the smallest of all init systems around. On the other hand systemd is just Not The Unix Way, it consolidates everything into one huge process and forces some impossible dependencies (dbus? udev? on my server?! and you expect a linux 3.0+ kernel? waaah!). But "everyone else" is moving to systemd, so where does that leave us? (One might notice that "everyone else" is just Fedora/RHEL at the moment, with (open)SuSE tagging along, and most others still not committed to a migration yet) As an alternative to the One Process For Everything I'd like to ask you to evalute OpenRC as an init system for Arch Linux. While Gentoo is by far the largest user it's definitely not the only one - there are the direct derivatives (Sabayon, pentoo, funtoo, sysrescuecd, tinhat, ...) and some "foreign" users (Alpine, a debian derivative, uses OpenRC) What we offer you is a modern, slim, userfriendly init system with minimal dependencies. All you need is a C99 compiler and a posix sh! The list of features is long and tedious (see http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC ), but the critical bits are: * portable - we have it running on Linux, *BSD, and there's no reason why it should fail on other unixoid platforms * dependency-based init scripts - no need to manually figure out the startup order, something like "before apache, after logger" is all you need to specify * small footprint - 10k LoC C99, ~3k LoC Posix SH out of the box (plus your own init scripts, of course) * friendly responsive upstream (let's figure out how we can cooperate, eh?) * boring - deterministic reproducable bootup, including interactive mode and verbose debug output For a long time we haven't done any active advertising, but OpenRC is now about 5 years old, and it is a drop-in replacement for our previous "baselayout" init system (which was started over a decade ago). We don't try to take over the world, we just create the best solution for our needs. And those go all the way from embedded systems (where you can use busybox for all the shell tools) to servers (minimal deps! No mandatory udev or dbus!) and desktops (including optional splash screen eyecandy and whatever makes you happy). There's pretty good support for advanced usage like SELinux, built-in support for ulimit and cgroups to do per-service resource limits, and it even comes with a friendly license (although some might say that a 2-clause BSD license it too friendly and promiscuous). And as a random bonus feature you get stupid-fast bootup - We've seen <5sec from bootloader handover to login prompt (depending on hardware and amount of services started, of course) and <5sec for rebooting a kvm guest. Should you decide to switch (or just evaluate if switching is possible / makes sense) you'll get full support from us in migrating init scripts and figuring out all the nontrivial changes. Just visit us on IRC ( #openrc on irc.freenode.net) send us a mail ( openrc(a)gentoo.org ) or meet us for a beer or two. Thanks for your consideration, Patrick Lauer Gentoo Developer, OpenRC co-maintainer

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[arch-general] netcfg status?
by Geert Hendrickx 09 May '12

09 May '12

Hi, What is the status of netcfg 2.8.x? When will it hit [core] ? I have been using it succesfully on my workstation and on two VPS (static IPv4 + IPv6 profiles). Geert -- geert.hendrickx.be :: geert(a)hendrickx.be :: PGP: 0xC4BB9E9F This e-mail was composed using 100% recycled spam messages!

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