January 2017 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Basic questions about Linux's sound system
by Peter Nabbefeld 31 Jan '17

31 Jan '17

Hello, semms I'm missing some basic parts of the sound system. I've been told, ALSA is for the hardware, pulseaudio is for the infrastructure, and bluez provides for virtual bluetooth devices, so I understand it should look like this (ASCII graphics, please use monospaced font for viewing): +------------+ +-----------+ | Rosegarden | | Totem | +------------+ +-----------+ +-----------------+ | Jack | | GStreamer | | Appl. using PA | +------------+---+-----------+---+-----------------+ | Pulseaudio (PA) | +--------------------+---+-------------------------+ | ALSA | | Bluez | +--------------------+ +-------------------------+ This would imply, that ALSA cannot "see" Bluetooth devices, but that seems not to be the fact, so there's probably a misconfiguration on my laptop. There's a bridge (bluez-alsa-git) in the AUR, but I haven't installed it, so why can ALSA see my headset? I'm asking this because of problems with HSP/HDP profile with my headset - if I've "coupled" the modules the wrong way, they'll probably block each other's functionality - especially, if ALSA and pulseaudio try to use the Bluez device at the same time ... Kind regards Peter

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[arch-general] ownCloud vs. nextcloud
by David Runge 31 Jan '17

31 Jan '17

Helloes! I wonder what Arch's/Sergej Pupykin's position towards nextcloud is. It seems that ownCloud lost most of its developers to the schism introduced last year. This led to many apps not being (mainly) developed by them anymore and moving into the hands of nextcloud and/or being more actively developed by nextcloud now (bookmarks, news, calendar, etc.) There definitely also has been a problem transitioning from php 7.0.x to 7.1 as the current version of ownCloud now has a "hotfix" applied that just suppresses the error message (which would render owncloud useless, as owncloud < 9.2 suppossedly doesn't work with php 7.1). The bookmark app is currently unusable (unable to add new bookmarks due to an old version of guzzlehttp dependency) and I wonder how much more of that we'll have incoming. Wouldn't it be better to switch to nextcloud in the community repository at this point? Best, David -- https://sleepmap.de

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [RFC] Mirror load distribution
by Eli Schwartz 31 Jan '17

31 Jan '17

On 01/30/2017 02:39 PM, Florian Pritz via arch-dev-public wrote: > I've just received a report from a mirror admin about some very heavy > traffic. After some investigation it appears that the traffic towards > his mirror started to rise around the beginning of the new year when we > disabled the mirror checker on gerolde. Since we now only have a mirror > checker running in Germany and his server is actually in the same data > centre as ours, the mirror checks completed very quickly. > > Archweb uses this data to calculate a "mirror score" which can be seen > here[1]. This score can also be used to sort the mirror list that can be > generate by archweb list this[2]. > > [1] https://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/ > [2] > https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/?use_mirror_status=on&protocol=https > > Apparently there is a script in AUR[3] which uses [2] to fetch a > mirrorlist. That script runs once a day. > > [3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/update-pacman-mirrorlist/ It seems to me that this AUR package is *generally* in bad taste, although granted, depending on people to do smart things is probably not a good idea either. No one needs to update their mirrors daily, but either way, rather than using horrendously inaccurate metrics I would suggest using rankmirrors or even reflector's "--fastest" option. From looking at the package, it seems to be its own source as well, which is actually against the rules. > I'm thinking about removing the mirror score from archweb's output and > more importantly, not sorting mirrors based on this score but rather > randomizing the list returned in [2]. It could still take the score into > account by limiting the returned set to mirror that are not totally out > of date, but I'd remove the sorting. The score doesn't really have a lot > a meaning anyways since it's just from our point of view. > > Does anyone have hard feeling about this? If not I'll prepare a patch in > the next few days. Sounds like it fits the intended use-case anyway. -- Eli Schwartz

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Re: [arch-general] mysql_secure_installation
by Jude DaShiell 30 Jan '17

30 Jan '17

I now have mariadb installed and working. Another internet site gave an example /root/.my.cnf file of about 3 lines that has to be read-only and I was able to do it with that file. The thing is when you hit enter and the error 1045 (28000) error comes up, hit enter again and you go right past that error successfully and can then do the rest of the script. I don't know if the /root/.my.cnf file helped or not but I keyed in the password that was in that file and had it all come up working. --

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[arch-general] GUFW start problem
by Alonzo Gomez 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Hello. Using Arch X86-64 up to date. Gnome 3, with GDM. UFW works fine. Logging in (GDM) gives 3 choices: - Gnome - Gnome classic - Gnome with xorg If I log in as using the option "Gnome with xorg" at GDM, GUFW works fine. But, if I log in choosing either "Gnome" or "Gnome classic", GUFW will not start. Instead, whether I click the gui icon, or do "gufw" or "sudo gufw" in a terminal, the authentication dialog box appears asking for the password. After entering the password, the dialog box disappears, and nothing further happens. This is regardless of whether I use Linux, Linux-lts, or Linux-grsec. Fwiw, I do have net-tools and python-gobject both installed. Python-gi does not seem to be in the repos. If necessary, I can reboot into either Gnome or Gnome classic, try GUFW again, and post whatever error messages would be helpful. BTW, no other application program exhibit this behavior.

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[arch-general] I just want to say THANK YOU!
by Alexander Bustamante 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Hi, I've been using Linux since 1996. My first distro was slackware. Have tried pretty much all of the most common distros, debian, redhat(centos,fedora), gentoo, ubuntu, etc etc, also been running FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, long list of OSs. Now im on ARCH since 2012, still rollin' (haha), and i must say, compared to everything else i've tried (including C64, VIC20, Spectrum, Amiga, OS/2, mac os,solaris,Windows,VMS, Ultrix,IRIX, etc etc) this is by far the most complete distribution/OS that i've ever tried. Fantastic documentation, fantastic community, fantastic *. It really pushes people into learning stuff the right way. By teaching the basics of the OS platform and providing the tools to build on. Arch linux is SOLID. All the way. Teaching how to fish instead of giving away fish. Thank you and i wish you all i fantastic 2017. Cheers! -- Alexander Bustamante

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[arch-general] Weird reaction to pull request over at Arch Linux ARM
by Christopher Reimer 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

Hello list, I'd like to get some feedback on this pull request discussion over at Arch Linux ARM: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/pull/1444 (Backup: http://pastebin.com/x8H0mNiE) Short summary: I wanted to contribute a simple patch to enable support for Banana Pi hardware. I tried that a few years back and got besides some other concerns the answer that it cannot be added, because at this time there were no upstream support and I accepted that. This is no longer the case, so I thought it must be possible to add support now. I also noticed a few other pull request trying exactly that, which were instantly closed by Kevin Mihelich without any reasonable explanation. That's why I expected some resistance and prepared myself to counterargument a few of his concerns. And I think I did quite good. Good enough to make him ignore me. Why am I writing this to the Arch Linux mailing list? Well, for quite some time I thought Arch Linux ARM is Arch Linux. And I think there are a lot more out there who think so. Therefore I think behavior like this could hurt the overall reputation of Arch Linux. Especially if a future goal of Arch Linux might be ARM support and Kevin Mihelich somehow joins the team. Did I miss something? Do I expect too much? I don't know. Thanks Christopher Reimer

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[arch-general] MariaDB not starting
by Peter Nabbefeld 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

Hello, I've got problems with MariaDB not working. 1) "systemctl status mariadb.service": ● mariadb.service - MariaDB database server Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/mariadb.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2017-01-27 13:04:10 CET; 13s ago Process: 4574 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld $MYSQLD_OPTS $_WSREP_NEW_CLUSTER $_WSREP_START_POSITION (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Process: 4519 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c [ ! -e /usr/bin/galera_recovery ] && VAR= || VAR=`/usr/bin/galera_recovery`; [ $? -eq 0 ] && systemctl set-environment _WSREP_START_POSITION=$VAR Process: 4517 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c systemctl unset-environment _WSREP_START_POSITION (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 4574 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Starting crash recovery... Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Crash recovery finished. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454332160 [Warning] Failed to load slave replication state from table mysql.gtid_slave_pos: 1146: Table 'mysql.gtid_slave_pos' Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: Failed to start MariaDB database server. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Unit entered failed state. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. 2) "journalctl -xe": -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel -- -- Unit mariadb.service has begun starting up. Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld (mysqld 10.1.21-MariaDB) starting as process 4574 ... Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Using mutexes to ref count buffer pool pages Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: GCC builtin __atomic_thread_fence() is used for memory barrier Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.11 Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Using Linux native AIO Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Using SSE crc32 instructions Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Highest supported file format is Barracuda. Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: The log sequence numbers 0 and 0 in ibdata files do not match the log sequence number 1600749 in the Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Database was not shutdown normally! Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Starting crash recovery. Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Reading tablespace information from the .ibd files... Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Restoring possible half-written data pages Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: from the doublewrite buffer... Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: 128 rollback segment(s) are active. Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Waiting for purge to start Jan 27 13:04:09 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:09 140214454369792 [Note] InnoDB: Percona XtraDB (http://www.percona.com) 5.6.34-79.1 started; log sequence number 1600749 Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Plugin 'FEEDBACK' is disabled. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140213863028480 [Note] InnoDB: Dumping buffer pool(s) not yet started Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [ERROR] Could not open mysql.plugin table. Some plugins may be not loaded Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Recovering after a crash using mysql-bin Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Starting crash recovery... Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Crash recovery finished. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454332160 [Warning] Failed to load slave replication state from table mysql.gtid_slave_pos: 1146: Table 'mysql.gtid_slave_pos' Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::'. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola mysqld[4574]: 2017-01-27 13:04:10 140214454369792 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: Failed to start MariaDB database server. -- Subject: Unit mariadb.service has failed -- Defined-By: systemd -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel -- -- Unit mariadb.service has failed. -- -- The result is failed. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Unit entered failed state. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Jan 27 13:04:10 tuchola sudo[4514]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Sorry, but those messages are not very expressive to me. I also tried to re-install mariadb, removing /var/lib/mysql (no important data had been in there until now ...) It seems to me, database data hadn't been re-created, but how can I get mariadb working now? BTW, is there a possibility to do a clean-up after package uninstall? Kind regards Peter

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[arch-general] command line spreadsheet
by Jude DaShiell 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

neoleo is now in the aur and it builds and works as near as I can tell. That can be used on command line with the -x option starting it as well as in graphical user environments. It may be an improvement over libreoffice calc under orca I'm going to find out about that later. In the neoleo changelog a pointer to oleo documentation on the web on the official gnu site is provided but documentation doesn't yet come packaged with this spreadsheet. --

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[arch-general] community/centerim findings
by Jude DaShiell 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

1) the key needed to get to the accounts screen after configuration is super-d or windows-d for those that don't know what super key is in Linux. That is the equivalent of the done button. It may be necessary to hit super-c to change the default configuration and actually write a configuration file to your home directory too before hitting super-d. I'm still researching that one. The man page doesn't describe what files centerim creates to support operation but I'll find that one out too. --

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