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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.33 and friends
by Thomas Bächler 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

Now that Pierre fixed lirc for us (neither tpowa nor I were able to do it due to time constraints), here is the signoff for 2.6.33 and the related modules. Please sign off, so we can finally move 2.6.33.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] bridge-utils 1.4-3
by Allan McRae 25 Apr '10

25 Apr '10

On 19/04/10 17:03, Allan McRae wrote: > Last rebuild was over a year ago. > > Signoff both, > Allan Anyone? User signoffs are fine.

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[arch-general] Raising identical task against multiple packages?
by Magnus Therning 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

Is there a way to raise an identical task against multiple packages in FlySpray? I'd like to raise a task against all binary haskell-* packages, but I'd rather like to avoid wearing out my mouse doing it ;-) /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe

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[arch-general] libgrss, new to archlinux PKGBUILD
by andrew james 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

low is a PKGBUILD that builds libgrss. the library was found as an optional dependency with tracker. http://live.gnome.org/Libgrss/ current vers 0.4.0 # Maintainer: andrew james <andrew at systemssingular com> pkgname=libgrss pkgver=0.4.0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A library to ease management of RSS/Atom/Pie feeds" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="http://live.gnome.org/Libgrss/" license=('LGPL3') depends=('glib' 'libxml2' 'libsoup') source=(http://gtk.mplat.es/libgrss/tarballs/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz) md5sums=('c145ce89a8287519e6366ce9c3c15de7') build() { cd $srcdir/$pkgname-$pkgver ./configure --prefix=/usr make || return 1 make DESTDIR=$pkgdir install }

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[arch-general] X server gets shifted to Ctrl+Alt+F8
by Karol Babioch 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

Hi, I'm not quite sure how to call this issue, maybe that's the reason, why I couldn't find anything on google nor in the bugtracker :(. I'm using the X server with GDM (Gnome), which is attached to Ctrl+Alt +F7 (btw: How do you call this?) during startup. Pretty normal. But as soon as I restart the X server (using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, but it doesn't matter) the X server gets attached to the next free "combo", which is quite obviously Ctrl+Alt+F8, whereas Ctrl+Alt+F7 shows just a blinking cursor. Interestingly this just happens once, so restarting the X server doesn't change anything, it stays attached to Ctrl+Alt+F8. I guess this could be known by some of you, I've experienced this on different machines already, but due to the fact that I don't know how to call this issue, I couldn't find any work-around. So, first of all I would like to know, whether you can reproduce this? Secondly I would like to know where the consoles are set up, so I can set up a seventh console, so the X server will get started on Ctrl+Alt +F8 in the first place. This has a different reason. My F8 key has a LCD printed on it (as it is also a function key to switch the output between the LCD and an attached monitor), so this would be a cool thing ;). But I don't know whether this would fix my main issue, or if the X server would then be shifted to Ctrl+Alt+F9. -- Best regards, Karol Babioch <karol(a)babioch.de>

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[arch-general] openoffice + lprng
by Javier Vasquez 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

Hi, I have openoffice installed as well as lprng. Lprng used to work for openoffice providing I believe "Generic Printer" or similar. Some time back for it work under any gtk-2 application (like firefox) I had to add to the gtkrc: gtk-print-backends = "file,lpr,cups" This is still working for firefox and other gtk-2 applications, however it doen't help at all to openoffice. I launched spadmin to see if I could actually add a printer manually. But it doens't work, the most that can be done is trying to install a driver. So no luck... Has any one made lprng work properly with openoffice? Thanks, -- Javier.

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[arch-general] wireless card switch problem
by flay 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

Hi all, today,when i use wired network,i turn off the wireless card switch in my notebook, but when i use wireless network,it seems my wirelss card can't work? how to fix this?thanks!

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[arch-general] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/ is not a symbolic link
by slubman 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

Since the openssl update, whenever I install or update a package with pacman, I've got this message as the last pacman output line when a package is installed (a new package or an update) /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/ is not a symbolic link But everything runs fine AFAIK. I'm using x86_64. Does someone know where is it coming from ? And How can I get rid off this message ? -- slubman site : http://www.slubman.info/

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[arch-general] where did /etc/conf.d/mysqld go?
by Milos Negovanovic 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hi, on last update my /etc/conf.d/mysqld was packsaved and no new version was installed. Now my non default MYSQLD_ROOT DB doesnt start any more! Is this config file no longer supported? Regards -- Milos Negovanovic milos.negovanovic(a)googlemail.com

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[arch-general] IceCat and Novell Moonlight pre
by f. gr. 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hi all, I'm trying to install Novell Moonlight plugin 3.0 preview 6 <http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/prerelease.aspx>. But I got this message: «GNU IceCat could not install the file at http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/downloads/2.99.0.6/novell-moonlight-2.99.0… because: Signing could not be verified. -260» I didn't get any error with the previous version (http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/downloads/2.99.0.3/novell-moonlight-2.99.0…) What did happen?

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[arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?
by Ananda Samaddar 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a whole load of GNOME crap? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins/ I've recently switched to XFCE and I'd like to avoid GNOME dependencies. Is it possible to recompile from abs without all these dependencies? thanks, Ananda

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[arch-general] what is this supposed to mean ?
by Fons Adriaensen 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Hello, Trying to do a complete system update, I get: error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) cups: /etc/cups/printers.conf exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. Certainly that file does exist, it probably has to in order to make my printer work. But why - is this an 'error' - does it block the update ??? And - What do I have to do to enable the system update ? And maybe pacman could be a bit more informative in such cases ? Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] Gstreamer good and good plugins without GNOME and some other dependencies
by Ananda Samaddar 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

The motivation behind creating these packages was to be able to use gstreamer based apps without GNOME dependencies. In my case I wanted to be able to use XFCE's media player Parole and the Decibel Audio player. Here are the packages: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36635 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36636 Compile time support removed: -OSS support -ESD support - seriously does anyone really use ESD any more? -gconf support -aalib support -libcaca support Make and binary dependencies removed: -libsoup-gnome - this is the worst culprit in my opinion -esound -libcaca -gconf -aalib Anything else will depend on the libraries you have installed. On my system for example the souphttpsrc module is built as I have Midori installed which has a libsoup dependency via Webkit. HAL support has not been removed. XFCE still relies on HAL I believe and when XFCE 4.8 comes out (it won't use HAL) the HAL dependency will be removed from my PKGBUILD. In the mean time you can edit the PKGBUILD yourself. I also had to split the packages as the AUR doesn't support split packages yet. Due to this you'll have to compile the whole source twice unfortunately. If you use an AUR helper you'll also download the source code twice too so you may want to run makepg manually. I've compiled and tested the packages on my X86-64 system and they work for me. As always with AUR though, ymmv. Ananda

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[arch-general] packman -S eterm [done] But: bash: eterm: command not found ????
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Could be I'm missing something here... But shouldn't 'pacman -S eterm' put executable somewhere in the standard path??? This was done using a root shell in a konsole terminal under E17 on my recently updated Arch installation... I did search the wiki for eterm just in case there was something about eterm that requires more than a simple pacman install. Didn't find anything useful. Am I missing something obvious here??? UnderTree =-> pacman -S eterm resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (2): libast-0.7-2 eterm-0.9.5-3 Total Download Size: 0.91 MB Total Installed Size: 2.98 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y :: Retrieving packages from community... libast-0.7-2 260.8K 315.2K/s 00:00:01 [###############################] 100% eterm-0.9.5-3 674.3K 828.9K/s 00:00:01 [###############################] 100% checking package integrity... (2/2) checking for file conflicts [###############################] 100% (1/2) installing libast [###############################] 100% (2/2) installing eterm [###############################] 100% UnderTree =-> eterm bash: eterm: command not found UnderTree =-> Here are the last few lines of my pacman.log: [2010-04-17 00:35] synchronizing package lists [2010-04-17 00:38] installed roxterm (1.18.1-1) [2010-04-19 21:31] synchronizing package lists [2010-04-19 21:34] installed libast (0.7-2) [2010-04-19 21:34] installed eterm (0.9.5-3) I note roxterm works, eterm doesn't... I don't see any errors listed in the pacman.log... -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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[arch-general] stability from pm-suspend ?
by Ian-Xue Li 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

I've been using pm-suspend for temporarily shutting down the computer for later use, but now I raised the question whether it is safe or stable to do so at a constant basis. That is, seldom real reboots and often just suspend. For me the ratio of reboot and suspend is like 1:5. As you know that suspend don't really unmount the drives to read-only before it goes into suspension, when resumption had failed, you usually need to repair it and check for errors. This is at least the case for me when I use ext4. Even if it did resume successfully, I started to wonder if it also would harm the filesystems. I really like to hear some experiences whether that you have been using ACPI S3 kernel suspension for quite some time now, and feels it is really stable and safe to use, or that, you had ran into troubles using them. -- 李彥學 (Ian-Xue Li) http://b4283.ath.cx A student.

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[arch-general] HAL dependencies
by Rob Bean 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

I've recently started using Xorg 1.8 from the [xorg18] repo to finally be able to get rid of HAL. Xorg is working fine, but I want to remove the remaining packages that depend on HAL. It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, and vlc. I can use ABS to rebuild these without HAL, but I'm concerned that these packages may actually need it. Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? -- The world is full of tough guys. It doesn't need me to be one, too.

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Re: [arch-general] stability from pm-suspend ?
by Nicky726 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

Dne úterý 20 dubna 2010 22:00:17 arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org napsal(a): > (modulo security considerations, if you keep an encrypted disk and don't > want people who get their hands on your computer to be able to read your > data! Or just login-password-wise if you're dealing with tech-ignorant > friends.) > > -Isaac Hello, this should not be a problem AFAIK, that is if you have whole disk encrypted including your root, you are asked for passphrase when resuming from StD. Without that resume is not possible as the "resume image" is stored at encrypted disk. The other suff is solved by some DE such as KDE, that can be configurred to lock your session when suspending. Ondrej Vadinsky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

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[arch-general] Ssl no more :(
by Andrea Crotti 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

I was wondering why I was not able to login to a remote arch server. Openvpn is still working and luckily also webmin, so I logged in and I saw this: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > /etc/rc.d/sshd restart :: Stopping Secure Shell Daemon [BUSY] [FAIL] :: Starting Secure Shell Daemon [BUSY] /usr/sbin/sshd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [FAIL] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- pacman -S --noconfirm openssh pacman: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Fantastic, so pacman is not working anymore! I don't know how it could have happened, last thing I did was a "pacman -Suy" which normally doesn't have such disastrous effects... Any idea how to fix this?

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[arch-general] Java and/or MySQL geeks required
by Nilesh Govindarajan 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

Hi, Please do not consider this another spam message because it is not. I am not sending this as an advertisement. Me and my friend are doing a project to write a simplified ebook for students of high school in India. The syllabus has been changed a lot and the students have been introduced to the world of FOSS. The current physical book authors are completely Windows centered, so students will not have any examples, screenshots in Linux. At present, there are no contributors. So, all those who are Java and/or MySQL experts and are willing to share their knowledge under CC-By-SA or CC-SA (Creative Commons) license without any royalty are humbly requested to reply to nilesh.3892 at gmail dot com The project page is located at http://cbse065.eduvid.in/ Again I'm sorry if this disturbed you. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !

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[arch-general] Serial To USB Adapter
by Carlos Mennens 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Guys, I have a Keyspan USB to Serial adapter. Now I am trying to be able to connect to a Cisco switch via console serial cable using the Minicom utility. My problem is I don't know how to tell Minicom that my serial device is connected to /dev/ttyUSB0 or maybe it already knows & I just don't know how to use it... Code: [carlos@tuna ~]$ dmesg | grep tty console [tty0] enabled 00:06: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 5) is a 16550A usb 5-2: Keyspan 1 port adapter converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Does anyone know how I can tell my Arch system that I have a USB to serial adapter connected to my machine?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Vim/GVim 7.2.411 Update
by José M. Prieto 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

2010/4/19 Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Daniel Griffiths <announce(a)archlinux.org>: > Daniel Griffiths wrote: > > Users of vim/gvim should take note! The recently released update of vim/gvim > (7.2.411) introduces a few important changes. * We have moved vim/gvim to a > single PKGBUILD following the splitpkg format. * If you have gvim installed, the > update will inform you that vim conflicts with gvim. This is the expected > behavior. Installation of vim and gvim separately is no longer required, the > gvim package now installs vim as well. * Installation of either vim or gvim will > pull in a new dependency, vim-runtime. The files included in vim-runtime were > pre-existing in both the gvim and vim packages. This update allows a cleaner > update path for future vim/gvim updates. Enjoy! > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/495/ AFAICS the vim package does not include ruby support, but as said in this [1] forum thread, vim now supports ruby 1.9. Is there something I am missing or could ruby be enabled again? [1] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=65031

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[arch-general] package manager overlay script
by Andre "Osku" Schmidt 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Hello, im getting tired to be forced to remember many different options for various package managers on different distros. so i did a little script that allows me to do like "asd install foo" on any distro i got that script installed, and it will install the package using the systems package manager. so, before i hack this script to a better state, i was wondering does this kind of script/project already exist ? cheers .andre

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[arch-general] did my 4/10/10:pacman -Syu: destabilized e17's run command dialog??
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Actually, I'm not sure if this is thanks to E17 itself or specific to Arch... And it's no big deal anyway because: A) e17 is "under heavy development", (And I know that means it's unstable) B) I've already got a workaround that works for me... But I'd like to understand what happened a little better. First you should know that I'm a multi-Linux/multi-boot kind of guy, and that in every distro I install I depend on their package management system to keep me out of dependency hel^Hck... ;-7 Of all my currently installed distros, Arch is the one that seems most likely to install an unadulterated upstream package, rather than a distro specific {modified} version. And e17 is definitely a "package" that I wouldn't even attempt to install by hand. Thus the fact that the only e17 on my laptop that this has happened to is the one in Arch, doesn't make it distro specific. It probably only means the Arch e17 is more fully updated... At least that's mt best guess. Anyway I'm not sure what the e17 version number that I installed to Arch sometime since my mid March initial installation of Arch itself was, but as of now the e17 help about lists it as "Enlightenment 0.16.999.063". Prior to this recent pacman -Syu, e17's run prompt worked normally. Afterwards it's become fussy what the first character I input into it is. That is I usually start opera via the run prompt and when I type "o" the command history displays the last instance of the command And I can in fact start opera. I also use firefox, though I usually start that from inside alpine. Today I tried to start firefox from the run prompt. But as soon as I type an "f" into the first character position of the command input field, I get a pop-up error telling me that "Enlightenment SEGV'd" That also advises me to compile everything with "-g in CFLAGS" So far, the the restore button succeeds in restarting e17 without closing any open applications... But of course I didn't get firefox. I can start firefox from an xterm. And I tested that I can type "of" into the run prompt without an immediate SEGV But I can't type an f as the first character. I haven't tested the whole alphabet, But I also can't type a command starting with "b" or "/" as the first character. Though just because I'm stubborn I can tell you that I can start firefox [via e17's run prompt] with: "~/../../usr/bin/firefox" (go figure) I did say I've got a work around that works for me... I've also got XFCE installed as a back-up desktop, so I've reassigned the keybinding I used to pull up e17's run prompt with, to "/usr/bin/xfrun4". Which is works just fine. How can I a regular "Joe user", figure out if this is an actual E17 bug or if it's an Arch specific thing??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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[arch-general] NDN Messages
by Mauro Santos 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Is it just me or is everyone getting something like this when posting to [arch-general]: "Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: Joey Kingery (Mailbox has been deleted. Try re-entering the address.)" It is not the first time I have received this and it does not seem to be a temporary problem, is there any way to avoid getting this message or solving the problem? -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.8: -- do I just rebuild the AUR packages?
by David C. Rankin 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Guys, After the latest openssl updates, the AUR packages for createrepo and repoview are failing. I know it must be the result of the openssl changes. My question is, "in situations like this do I just try rebuilding the AUR packages, or does the maintainer have to make updates to accommodate the changes?" The errors received are: Checking for presence of sqlite metadata in /home/backup/rpms/factory_11.0 sqlite metadata tables found --> updating Update of metadata (sqlite) --> Failed Signing the repository after update... OK Updating/Creating repoview index and HTML pages... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/createrepo/genpkgmetadata.py", line 26, in <module> import rpm File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rpm/__init__.py", line 7, in <module> from _rpm import * ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory gpg: no default secret key: bad passphrase gpg: signing failed: bad passphrase Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/repoview", line 46, in <module> from rpmUtils.miscutils import compareEVR File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rpmUtils/miscutils.py", line 18, in <module> of which: "ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" seems to be the primary error. I am not familiar enough with openssl to know if this can be cured by a simple rebuild, a symlink, or whether the openssl changes were significant enough to require a reworking of the AUR package by the maintainer. What say the gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] ed-1.4-2
by Ray Kohler 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Add "sh" dep to ensure availability for install script, compress info pages. > > Signoff both, > Allan How about handling http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18718 (remove ed and bin86 from base-devel)?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] xorg-server 1.8 repository
by Ray Kohler 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > Things todo before this merges to extra: > - Fix xf86-video-siliconmotion, xf86-video-unichrome, xf86-video-nouveau I'm curious as to what this means. In particular, what's broken with nouveau? Does it not compile, or not work properly? And is this with the source snapshot in [extra], or some newer version?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] gcc-4.5 toolchain rebuild
by Emmanuel Benisty 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > The gcc-4.5 toolchain rebuild is in [testing]. Here is a summary of the > changes I made: > > gcc-4.5.0-1: > upstream update > add new deps (libmpc, libelf) > enable link time optimization > tidy up configure > add c89 and c99 launcher scripts (POSIX compatibility) Just out of curiosity, what is the plan regarding this issue (quoted from the gcc changelog): On x86 targets, code containing floating-point calculations may run significantly slower when compiled with GCC 4.5 in strict C99 conformance mode than they did with earlier GCC versions. This is due to stricter standard conformance of the compiler and can be avoided by using the option -fexcess-precision=fast; Thanks.

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[arch-general] package search shows duplicate ca-certificates package in [testing]
by Ray Kohler 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Ever since the openssl rebuilds moved out of testing, the package search webapp shows an extra copy of ca-certificates in [testing] at the same version of the one in [core] now. This package doesn't really exist in the [testing] DB and there isn't an SVN entry for it in testing-any either. What's going on here? Is it a bug in the package search that I should file in flyspray?

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[arch-general] How to get permanent network devices?
by Dominik Schips 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Hello, I have three network devices (eth0, eth1 and eth2) in my system. Currently I use the networkmanager (Gnome) to configure my LAN connection. It is working good. My problem is that every reboot the device names are changing so somtimes my LAN device is eth0 next reboot it is eth2 ..... I think this is done by udev. Can someone explain me how to get permanent device names every boot? I want to have eth0 as my normal LAN device, eth1 as a bridge device for KVM VMs and eth2 as bridge device connected to my DMZ for VMs. With virt-manager I can setup these bridges but if the device name changes every boot it is unpossible to use. Any ideas or advices for me? -- Best regards Dominik Schips

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[arch-general] manage starting and stopping processes with less typing
by David C. Rankin 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Guys, One thing I miss with Arch are init-script shortcuts for starting and stopping processes. rc-commands really help cut down on typing. For example, all suse did was to create links to the files in /etc/rc.d/... with a naming convention of rc<init script name>. So, for example, instead of having to type: /etc/rc.d/postfix the shortcut was simply rcpostfix I have normally seen the sym-link shortcuts placed in /usr/sbin, but /usr/local/sbin works fine as well. The convenience is addictive. If you manage your box from the command line or want to, then you can give this setup a testdrive. You can create the sym-links very easily with the following cut and pasted to the command line (as root - all on one line): for i in $(ls /etc/rc.d); do [[ -e /etc/rc.d/$i ]] && [[ ! -h /usr/local/sbin/$i ]] && ln -sv /etc/rc.d/$i /usr/local/sbin/rc${i}; done You need to make sure /usr/local/sbin is in root's path to use the rc-commands without having to type the full path each time (that would defeat any convenience). You can quickly check to see if /usr/local/sbin is in root's path by logging in, or su'ing, to the root account and pasting the next line into the command line: set | grep \/usr\/local\/sbin If you get an answer, your fine, if you get nothing, then, as root, add /usr/local/sbin to the path with: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin EXPORT PATH you can make the path permanent by adding to, or creating /root/.bashrc with the following: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin I know most of you know all this, but this was written with additional detail to help those who may not make much use of the command line now, but may be interested in learning more about the control it offers. Remember, you can do some things some of the time from within various guis, but you can do ALL things ALL OF THE TIME, from the command line. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] First Time Using AUR
by Carlos Mennens 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

I am getting ready to use my newly built Arch Linux system for the 1st time and use AUR and read the Wiki but I have a question that I am not clear on: Next choose an appropriate build directory. A build directory is simply a directory where the package will be made or "built" and can be any directory. Examples of commonly used directories are: ~/builds Now when I create the "~/builds" directory, does it matter if I do this in a regular user's home directory or in 'roots'? It is not very clear and I don't want to break anything or improperly build a package from AUR.

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[arch-general] Repo mirrors
by Florian Pritz 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

I've changed the mirror script from the wiki so mirror admins can run it every minute without huge additional load. This will help a lot to reduce update delays now and even further when we have multiple tiers (don't know how mucht that works already). I've already described it somewhere, but for those who don't know it yet: The script fetches an md5 sum of checksums of the repos (core, extra, testing, community). If the first checksum is different then the one locally generated on the mirror, it will check those for every repo. If they are also different it will rsync as needed. HTTP requests are used to fetch the checksums because most mirrors already have HTTP servers running and because they are cheap. I've also created a patch for db-scripts to generate the md5sums for the master server. As I don't have a repo set up this patch is untested (it's the same code as in the mirrorscript though). Once this is merged on the master we can start to tell mirror admins to use the new mirrorscript which can be found at http://karif.server-speed.net/~flo/tmp/mirrorsync.sh.txt C&C welcome :)

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[arch-general] VirtualBox
by Carlos Mennens 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

I am really needing to install VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads) on my Arch 64-bit machine. I noticed that there is obviously no official download for Arch specifically on their site. I then checked Pacman and it appears there is only a OSE (Open Source Addition) available for 32-bit (i686) systems only. My question is if I download the file from the vendor's site I linked above, can I simply not just install that manually on my Arch Linux 64-bit system or will I run into problems? The package I downloaded was called "VirtualBox-3.1.6-59338-Linux_amd64.run" which I assume is just a self contained installer with all the necessary downloads and required files. I am just trying to figure out that best solution for installing VirtualBox (PUEL) but if I have to, I can even deal with using the less-featured version (Open Source Edition) if it was available via Pacman... Thanks for any help / info! -Carlos

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[arch-general] Emerald crashing on theme change or edit in Gnome
by David C. Rankin 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Guys, For some reason, emerald has started crashing when changing themes in Gnome. It changes the theme just fine, but then crashes. (disappears - no error shown or in any logs). The crash occurs as soon as you click on a new theme to change it. This happens when you select the first theme 3/4 of the time. Other times, you can click on two, or maybe even three themes looking for the one you want before the crash occurs at other times. The result is the same, emerald-theme-manager just disappears into thin air. A restart restores emerald without error as well. The problem prevent you from being able to look at more than one theme or edit the emerald themes. The issue isn't with any new theme, I have a set that I've been using without error for a while, it seems like one of the recent updates may be the cause (new Xorg?). I will look at it in kde later this evening. Has anyone else experienced this or got any more information on this new emerald trick? I know emerald well from a user's standpoint, but not from the developer standpoint. I have checked all the logs I could think of (messages.log, everything.log, Xorg.0.log, errors.log ~/.xsession-errors), but I didn't find anything. Is there somewhere else I should be looking? I'll try to provide more information on the behavior in kde and see if I can get anything else from the command line. However, if you have any suggestions in the interim, I would sure appreciate it. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.62-1
by Eric Bélanger 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Am 12.04.2010 03:09, schrieb Eric Bélanger: >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.62-1 are now in testing: >>> >>> - minor upstream update (ChangeLogs below) >>> - license fix: ('GPL') -> ('GPL2' 'LGPL2.1') >>> >>> Please test and signoff. Signoffs from users are welcome. >>> >>> Eric >>> >> >> Bump. Anyone? >> > > Updated and re-did initramfs yesterday, signoff x86_64. > > Anyone for i686? I'll wait a couple of days then I'll move them signoff or not.

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[arch-general] erlang emacs
by Juan Diego 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Good day, I'm trying to run erlang-mode in emacs and I'm getting the following error: File mode specification error: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "erlang-skels") I remember some time ago this error did not occur. I'm using emacs 23.5-1 and erlang R13B04-3 Is somebody having the same error?

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[arch-general] [signoff] util-linux-ng-2.17.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hi Util-linux-ng 2.17.2 Release Notes ================================== Changes since v2.17.1 --------------------- For more details see ChangeLog files at: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux-ng/v2.17/ docs: - fix small typo in v2.17.1-ReleaseNotes [Karel Zak] - update AUTHORS file [Karel Zak] fdisk: - fix -b <sectorsize> [Karel Zak] ionice: - fix typo [Pierre Hauweele] lib: - add #ifndef around min() max() macros [Karel Zak] libblkid: - fix display of device size [Karel Zak] - fix infinite loop when probe chain bails out early [Colin Watson] - more robust minix probing [Karel Zak] - remove "0x" prefix from DRBD UUID [Karel Zak] - reset BLKID_TINY_DEV flag in blkid_probe_set_device [Pascal Terjan] - support alignment_offset=-1 [Karel Zak] lscpu: - fix cpuid opcode detection [Henne Vogelsang] mount: - more explicitly explain fstab usage in mount.8 [Karel Zak] - posix option of vfat is obsolete [Yoshihiro Takahashi] - properly ignore comments in /etc/filesystems [Mike Frysinger] po: - merge changes [Karel Zak] - update ja.po (from translationproject.org) [Makoto Kato] - update pl.po (from translationproject.org) [Jakub Bogusz] - update vi.po (from translationproject.org) [Clytie Siddall] swapon: - remove " (deleted)" from filenames from /proc/swaps [Karel Zak] wipefs: - cleanup usage() and man page [Karel Zak] please signoff, both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] keyboard not working in Xorg after package updates
by David Rosenstrauch 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

I upgraded my extremely not-up-to-date server last night (523 packages upgraded). The upgrade generally went well, except for one significant issue: the keyboard is no longer working under Xorg. It works fine in a command line tty though (i.e., ctrl-alt-F1). Not sure what the problem is, as it was working before the upgrade, and I'm fairly certain I've got all the relevant bits installed and loaded, such as: * evdev module loaded * dbus daemon running * hal daemon running * xf86-input-evdev package installed etc. Perhaps related: I saw the following odd sequence of messages in the Xorg.0.log: (II) config/hal: Adding input device Power Button (**) Power Button: always reports core events (**) Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event2" (II) Power Button: Found keys (II) Power Button: Configuring as keyboard (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD) (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us" (II) config/hal: Adding input device Power Button (**) Power Button: always reports core events (**) Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event3" (II) Power Button: Found keys (II) Power Button: Configuring as keyboard (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD) (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us" Certainly sounds like that could be the cause, but I have no idea why that's happening or how to fix. Anyone have any ideas? TIA, DR

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[arch-general] [signoff] kbd-1.15.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Hi please signoff, both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Apache dead after kernel update - make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 - (Solved by 2nd Reboot)
by David C. Rankin 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Guys, I don't know what's up here, but I updated the system ( no [testing] ), and rebooted to load the new kernel, and http was dead. On start, the error said it couldn't bind to port 443 because it was already taken -- Huh? Here are what little details I could come up with: [23:28 nirvana:/home/david] # lsof -i | grep 443 [23:28 nirvana:/home/david] # apachectl stop httpd (no pid file) not running [23:28 nirvana:/home/david] # apachectl start (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:443 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs First time I've seen this one. The latest system update completed fine, so I should be up to date. Apache is: apache 2.2.15-2 php-apache 5.3.2-6 the kernel is: kernel26-2.6.33.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz kernel26-headers-2.6.33.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz I have a second x86_64 Arch box where the hardware and config is close to what I have on the problem box and apache it was working fine. I don't know what the issue was because the problem cured itself on reboot. This is just fyi in case anyone else experiences the same issue. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] KVM with larger console font set in rc.conf[was ...microscoic console font...]
by Nicky726 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

> If I let KMS happen, everything that printed to the screen before the > kernel enabled it is gone. And if I set a larger console font, it clears > the screen again when it enters runlevel 3... <sigh> I guess that if/when I > choose to use KMS with a large console font, I'm going to have to settle > for dmesg... I could even put a call to dmesg in rc.local. But it wouldn't > be the same as watching the screen to see if any [failed] indicators > scroll by. So whether or not I disable KMS, I'm uncommenting that tty rule > and reinstating my echo statement. That, will at least let me keep an eye > on my rc.local initializations. {Even with KMS & larger fonts enabled...} Hello, try to use early KMS and keymap hook in mkinitcpio. Ondrej Vadinsky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

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[arch-general] [signoff] lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.62-1
by Eric Bélanger 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Hi, lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.62-1 are now in testing: - minor upstream update (ChangeLogs below) - license fix: ('GPL') -> ('GPL2' 'LGPL2.1') Please test and signoff. Signoffs from users are welcome. Eric Version 2.02.62 - 9th March 2010 ================================ Add use_mlockall and mlock_filter to activation section of lvm.conf. Add default alternative to mlockall using mlock to reduce pinned memory size. Remove -rdynamic from static builds. Update checks for pthread, readline & selinux libs and link only when needed. Introduce makefile vars UDEV_LIBS, DL_LIBS, SELINUX_LIBS, STATIC_LIBS. Introduce makefile vars LVMINTERNAL_LIBS, READLINE_LIBS, PTHREAD_LIBS. Toggle configure help to print --disable-fsadm. Use $() instead of ${} consistently for all Makefile variables. Replace CFLOW_CMD only in make.tmpl and use it as variable elsewhere. Use $(top_builddir) for inclusion of make.tmpl in Makefiles. Fix autoconf warning about ignored datarootdir. Increase AC_PREREQ version to 2.61 (for AC_PROC_SED, AC_PROG_MKDIR_P). Handle misaligned devices that report alignment_offset of -1. Extend core allocation code in preparation for mirrored log areas. Rewrite clvmd init script. Remove lvs_in_vg_activated_by_uuid_only call. No longer fall back to looking up active devices by name if uuid not found. Don't touch /dev in vgmknodes if activation is disabled. Update lvm2app.h Doxygen comments and add lvm2app Doxygen config file. Update nightly tests and lvm2app unit tests to cover tags. Add lvm2app functions lvm_{vg|lv}_{get|add|remove}_tag() functions. Add dm_pool_strdup to allocate and copy memory in tag library function. Refactor vgcreate, vgchange, and lvchange for tag library function. Refactor snapshot-merge deptree and device removal to support info-by-uuid. Version 1.02.45 - 9th March 2010 ================================ Add --showkeys parameter description to dmsetup man page. Add --help option as synonym for help command.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Sharing my repo-tools
by Mauro Santos 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

On 04/11/2010 08:09 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:13:33 +0200, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> > wrote: >> I have finally put the tools I use to sync my local repo and to create >> those magic rebuild lists into a git repo. I polished them to increase >> usability and portability, but they are not really ready to be run e.g. > on >> gerolde. > > I just added a simple integrity check for a repo: > https://git.archlinux.de/repo-tools.git/tree/checkrepo > > Any ideas why writing that md5sums.txt is so slow? > Try something like this: cat `find $tmp/$repo/$arch -iname desc` | egrep -i -A1 "filename|md5" | tr -d '\n' | sed 's/%FILENAME%/\n/g' | sed 's/%/ /g' | sed 's/--/ /g' | awk '{print $3 " " $1}' > $tmp/md5sums.txt and adapt to your needs. This should be really fast, way faster than using a for loop to read each file.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Sharing my repo-tools
by Mauro Santos 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

On 04/11/2010 08:09 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:13:33 +0200, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> > wrote: >> I have finally put the tools I use to sync my local repo and to create >> those magic rebuild lists into a git repo. I polished them to increase >> usability and portability, but they are not really ready to be run e.g. > on >> gerolde. > > I just added a simple integrity check for a repo: > https://git.archlinux.de/repo-tools.git/tree/checkrepo > > Any ideas why writing that md5sums.txt is so slow? > Your inner for loop is slowing everything, I have found that FOR loops in bash are very slow. If the loop will run only a few times it is ok but if the intended purpose is to run hundreds of times then it is better to find an alternative. Maybe you can try to replace the inner loop with something involving 'find ... -exec something' or some recursive grep and mix it with awk, I have found that it can be many times faster than using FOR loops.

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[arch-general] Trying to get Brother HL2035 to work...
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

Hello all, I installed everything required to use the Brother HL2035 printer as described on the wiki: <http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Brother_HL-2030>. This all worked nicely, the printer shows up in Cups, but nothing gets printed... Trying to print a test page (or anything else) launches some processes: daemon 1678 1645 0 12:25 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/cups/filter/brlpdwrapperHL2030 16 anonymous Test Page 1 job-uu daemon 1679 1645 0 12:25 ? 00:00:00 usb:/dev/usb/lp0 16 anonymous Test Page 1 job-uuid=urn:uuid:d460eeb3-d9b9-32b7- daemon 1705 1678 0 12:25 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/Brother/lpd/filterHL2030 daemon 1733 1705 0 12:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/local/Brother/lpd/rawtobr2 -pi /usr/local/Brother/inf/paperinf -rc /usr/lo which remain until the job is canceled. In /var/log/kernel.log I found this which may be an indication but I fail to understand what exactly it means: Apr 11 12:33:51 zita1 kernel: usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 Apr 11 12:33:56 zita1 kernel: usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 Apr 11 12:34:01 zita1 kernel: usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 Apr 11 12:34:07 zita1 kernel: usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 Apr 11 12:34:12 zita1 kernel: usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 lsusb produces: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04f9:0027 Brother Industries, Ltd HL-2030 Laser Printer Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Tested on two different machines, exactly same result. Any help to get this working will be appreciated ! -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] Update Error - :: sysprof-module: requires kernel26<2.6.33 (is this a wait on the mirrors thing?)
by David C. Rankin 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

Guys, Trying to update and I received: 05:15 nirvana:~/img/pics/portraits/dcr> pms -u :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date archlinuxfr is up to date kdemod-legacy is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: sysprof-module: requires kernel26<2.6.33 Is this a wait on the mirror to sync issue or is this a bad side effect from having updated with testing while the dbrebuild WARNING was in place and then downgrading with pacman -Syuu? How to fix? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] pacman -Syu
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

What do I need to do in order to update this system ? ... checking package integrity... (196/196) checking for file conflicts [#################################################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) pm-utils: /etc/pm/ exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pm-utils.pc exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man1/on_ac_power.1.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man1/pm-is-supported.1.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/pm-action.8.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/pm-hibernate.8.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/pm-pmu.8.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/pm-powersave.8.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/pm-suspend-hybrid.8.gz exists in filesystem pm-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/pm-suspend.8.gz exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. TIA, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] successful pacman -Syu w/new kernal26: Now have microscopic console font :-(
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

Sigh... I just did a pacman -Syu. It updated lots of stuff. The only issues listed in my pacman.log were: While: updating keystore /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts... ignored import, signature not available: /etc/ssl/certs/COMODO_Certification_Authority.pem keytool error: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA384withECDSA Signature not available And a warning about my manually managed separate primary boot partition not being mounted... Which will never be mounted during *_any_* Linux distro's upgrade process... I compared /boot and /mnt/boot grub entries, verified that the vmlinuz and kernel.img filenames hadn't changed, Then copied the vmlinuz, and both kernal.img files from /boot, to /mnt/boot And rebooted... As far as I can see (so far) the only real issue I have with my upgraded Arch system is that the size of my console fonts has drastically been reduced... Once the gui started, all the X font sizes were just fine. But my eyes hurt just trying to read the console well enough to login to run startx... The next thing I did was to edit MY grub's kernel line to include: vga=normal, and rebooted. But partway through the boot messages the screen still clears and the font size becomes painfully small. Next, Even though I've never had to bother with framebuffer before (I prefer the normal sized console font, and I don't like pretty pictures on my screen until AFTER I run startx...) I read the "FRAMEBUFFER RESOLUTION SETTINGS" comments in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. And that led me to the framebuffer section of the grub wiki file. Which in turn led to my installing hwinfo from aur on this amd_64 laptop. 02: None 00.0: 11001 VESA Framebuffer [Created at bios.459] Unique ID: rdCR.mrzO17IxmKC Hardware Class: framebuffer Model: "ATI MS48" Vendor: "ATI Technologies Inc." Device: "MS48" SubVendor: "ATI Radeon® Xpress 1150" SubDevice: Revision: "01.00" Memory Size: 16 MB Memory Range: 0xc8000000-0xc8ffffff (rw) <snip> Mode 0x0312: 640x480 (+1920), 24 bits <snip> the comments in the menu.lst file say on the 16MB line "0x312=786" So I tried vga=786 And rebooted... Just before the boot messages list ":: Bringing up loopback interface" the screen still clears {expletive-deleted!} And then the fontsize still makes me squint. {many expletives-deleted!} Problem #1 How can I stop the reduction in the console font size??? Evidently the framebuffer setting isn't doing it... Problem #2 How can I stop the boot process from clearing the screen on tty1??? I really dislike ANY of the boot messages to disappear. I "LIKE" being able to use gpm to copy/paste them into a console editor... I didn't like it when it cleared the last few lines just prior to giving me a login prompt. But at least that could be compensated for by the kludge of including a multi-line echo statement in /etc/rc.local. But now that it lops the majority of the boot messages off the top it's beyond my ability to kludgon it into submission. ;-( Suggestions anyone? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> I'm NOT clueless... But I just don't know.

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[arch-general] What are the dual isos about?
by Karol Babioch 10 Apr '10

10 Apr '10

Hi, I've found the following link, which seems to contain more up to date images of archlinux and the installer: http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ Now I'm wondering what these dual images are about? Is this a new architecture? Whats the difference to x86_64 in that case? How is the support for packages? Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Karol Babioch <karol(a)babioch.de>

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[arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question
by Keith Hinton 10 Apr '10

10 Apr '10

Hi, First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the Arch Release team is actually hanging out on this list. I was curious, seeing as the last Arch Linux release was in August of last year, if there will be one for the lovely new year of 2010? If someone could get back to me on that question I would for sure appreciate it. I hope that all is going well for Arch Linux development! Talk to you folks later. I haven't been as active on this list due to personal commitments but do watch for any interesting activity from time-to-time. Thanks. Sincere Regards, --Keith

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[arch-general] xorg-server 1.8 - Wiki?
by pyther 10 Apr '10

10 Apr '10

On 04/04/2010 04:56 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > <snip> > > Things todo before this merges to extra: > - Add documentation about input configuration to our wiki, as hal is > deprecated now > - Ask nvidia for a driver that works without ignoreABI, I'm sure they > can give us a timeframe for that > - Add xorg.conf.d config files for input drivers, right now only evdev > and synaptics have config files > - Fix xf86-video-siliconmotion, xf86-video-unichrome, xf86-video-nouveau > > Has there been any work on a wiki entry for Xorg 1.8? I don't see anything on the main wiki. I just don't want to duplicate efforts. Cheers!

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[arch-general] upgrade problems
by Shridhar Daithankar 09 Apr '10

09 Apr '10

Hi, I got this pacman error just now, when I wanted to upgrade to 2.6.33. # pacman -Su :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: kqemu: requires kernel26<2.6.33 :: madwifi: requires kernel26<2.6.33 I removed both these packages and the upgrade is proceeding. Just a heads up for others who actually need these packages. I don't know why I had madwifi as there is no wireless card in this desktop machine. -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] AUR comments gone?
by David Rosenstrauch 09 Apr '10

09 Apr '10

Just noticed today that all the comments are gone from the AUR pages. Is that intentional? Or if not, is there any way to get them restored? Thanks, DR

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl, heimdal and icu rebuilds
by Evangelos Foutras 08 Apr '10

08 Apr '10

On 09/04/10 01:20, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:37:13 +0200, Pierre Schmitz<pierre(a)archlinux.de> > wrote: >> The move is in progress...please don't touch anything while we are still >> on it. :-) > > So, we are done. Mirrors should be back in sync some day. Have the packages in [xorg18] been moved into [extra] as well? I cannot verify this from looking at the website, though it might not have synchronized yet.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] openssl 1.0 rebuild
by Jim Pryor 08 Apr '10

08 Apr '10

On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 03:42:05PM +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 08.04.2010 15:38, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:41:12 +0200, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> > > wrote: > >> Thanks to a hint from Pierre, I fixed it: > >> # update-ca-certificates --fresh > >> The hashes in /etc/ssl/certs are different from the ones before the > >> command, so I suspect there will be more failures like this. Can we > >> please get the above command in post_install in the case we are > >> upgrading from a version older than 1.0.0? > > > > The new ca-certificates packages does this for you. > > Very nice, thank you. > > This should also solve Jim's problem, see his reply to my first post. I'm still using 20090814-3, but I can confirm that doing # update-ca-certificates --fresh manually fixes the elinks problem with verifying certificates. Thanks. -- Jim Pryor profjim(a)jimpryor.net

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[arch-general] nvidia with latest Xorg
by Xavier Chantry 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > On 04/07/2010 09:55 AM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: >> On 04/07/2010 10:46 AM, Xavier Chantry wrote: >>> Can you attach full Xorg log and config ? >> >> I'm not using any xorg config. Log is at: >> >> http://www.darose.net/Xorg.0.log >> >>> And does it work with xf86-input-keyboard driver ? >> >> I have xf86-input-keyboard installed. I assumed X was just >> automatically choosing evdev (as I have no xorg config). >> >> Thanks, >> >> DR >> > > On the same note, after the latest Xorg update, X (nVidia card) was failing to > start on the same xorg.conf I had used with my arch box since I first installed > arch. The xorg.conf was generated by the nvidia-xconfig app. The xorg.conf was: > > http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/X/xorg/xorg.conf.sav > > Something is not as it should be in the latest X release. > > (p.s. this is 'in addition to' and not 'in lieu of' the current topic) > This is a complete thread hijacking, has nothing to do with the current topic, and adds NOTHING to it. darose updated to the Xserver in EXTRA which is 1.7.5.902-1 nvidia works fine in extra, even in testing ! It only needs Option "IgnoreABI" "True" with xorg 1.8 which is a separate experimental repository AND that was already documented in its announcement : http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-April/016387.ht…

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WARNING: [testing] broken due to openssl and heimdal rebuilds
by Florian Pritz 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

On 07.04.2010 06:42, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > I just tested what happens if I change pacman depends to > "'libarchive>=2.8.3-3' 'libfetch>=2.30-3'". Maybe start using sodeps to generate those dependencies? libfetch (doesn't have a soname with version btw) would depend on the new openssl libs and pacman should take care of the order. Have you already checked the patch Allan? -- Florian Pritz -- {flo,bluewind}(a)server-speed.net

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] openssl 1.0 rebuild
by Jim Pryor 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:49:10AM +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 30.03.2010 03:36, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > I created a rebuld list for the just released openssl 1.0.0 (Thanks Dan > > for fixing the todo list that fast!). These are 236 packages for each > > architecture; so this will need some kind of planning and a bunch of people > > to help. But for now I'll at least wait for the Gnome and KDE release and > > also Allan's heimdal rebuilds. > > > > Fedora uses openssl 1 since Fedora 12 which means if there are any issues > > we'll probably find a solution there. Till then I just need to port the man > > page patch (easy) and see why it compiles with -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 on > > x86_64 and if that is an issue at all. > > The new openssl breaks RADIUS authentication with wpa_supplicant for me. > It fails to verify the CA certificate and aborts authentication. It > works if I disable verification of the certificates in the configuration > (which is bad, but still helps). I noticed something which sounds similar. After I synched, I rebuilt elinks-git against all the new libs I had installed. Then I noticed I was getting ssl errors whenever I went to an https: site. Turns out I needed to turn off the option connection.ssl.cert_verify: ## connection.ssl.cert_verify [0|1] # Verify the peer's SSL certificate. Note that this needs extensive # configuration of OpenSSL by the user. set connection.ssl.cert_verify = 0 Despite the "extensive configuration" warning, this was working before, but after rebuilding against openssl 1.0.0, it's not. The openssl upgrade brought some changes to /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf. I haven't tracked down yet whether any of those may be responsible for this. -- Jim Pryor profjim(a)jimpryor.net

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[arch-general] jack & qjackctl
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

It seems like Arch is currently offering Jack and qjackctl packages that are not compatible. The Jack authors changed one some command line options in 0.118. '-R' for realtime is no longer available as realtime is now the default, and the new '-r' means 'no realtime'. Qjackctl 0.3.6 is aware of this, but won't work well with Jack 0.116 which is still the one available from Arch. In other words, the update of qjackctl was probably a bit premature. Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] missing ruby-htmlentities
by Shacristo 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

ruby-htmlentities seems to have gone missing from community. Has it been dropped?

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[arch-general] libao (and other Xiph package) rebuild schedule?
by Ray Kohler 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

A little while back I mentioned here that there were several xiph.org releases coming up. These did happen, and I flagged those packages out of date. Now that the openssl, heimdal, and icu updates are done, I'd like to know where these stand. Normally I'd not write such a "nag mail", but the only package with a soname bump (libao) is owned by an ex-developer (Hugo Doria), so I thought it might have been missed. I also had some extra details to provide. The full details of the upstream releases can be seen at http://xiph.org/press/2010/vorbis-surround/ and http://xiph.org/press/2010/libogg-1.2.0/ . Only libao has a soname bump; libogg and libvorbis have none. The new vorbis-tools also requires the new libao. libao isn't widely used, so it shouldn't be much of a rebuild. Another thing worth mentioning is that libao now (optionally) supports many more drivers/plugins out of the box. One of them is pulseaudio. This likely obsoletes the libao-pulse package currently in community. The only hassle here is not being able to do a straight split package since libao is in [extra] and libao-pulse (with pulseaudio itself) is is in [community]. That said, it should be workable to build the [extra] package entirely without pulseaudio support, and then build it again for the [community] package, installing only the pulse plugin from that PKGBUILD. libao seems happy enough to load any plugin it finds in its modules directory, whether or not they were built together (though I didn't test this with the pulse plugin in particular). vcut is now built by default (as upstream finally considers it ready for prime-time), so the explicit "--enable-vcut" can be removed from vorbis-tools' configure arguments. I've been using these upgrades since a few months before they were released, and they are solid. (Why am I personally so interested in these upgrades? One big feature, oddly missing from the release announcement, is that ogg123 now supports ReplayGain, making it a reasonable replacement for a bigger music player, at least for me. So vorbis-tools is the main driver as far as I'm concerned.)

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

Latest kernel is in testing since weekend, please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

I'm no longer a kde fan, I used to be until almost everything they changed for kde4 ticked me off... Over all I'm just as glad they did because otherwise I wouldn't have discovered E17 (or XFCE) which are currently my two main desktop environments. However, kde has some apps that I'm still addicted to: One of them is the old kde3x version of kaffiene for playing my music files. I never really embraced most of it's advanced features, and frankly I dislike using playlist files. What attracted me to kaffeine was when I discovered that with the kde3x version I could use the keyboard to do an: File->Open URL->PathToMusicDirTree Where PathToMusicDirTree is the top most directory of a multi directory structure that contains only music files and directories to more music files. And kaffeine would open not only any music files within "PathToMusicDirTree" but recursively any music files in any of it's subdirectories. I could add and delete files to and from this directory tree and know that the next "File->Open URL->PathToMusicDirTree" would result in kaffeine playing all of them. At most all I needed to do was to set shuffle and repeat options to enjoy my background music for as long as I wanted it. That is all I ever wanted of a music player... Since kde4 I've learned that I really need to build a playlist by repetitively using "File->Open URL-> NonRecursiveDir" until I've added each and every subdir of "PathToMusicDirTree" one at a time. Worse, I need to rebuild the playlist file every time I want to add or remove music from my files... But every time I've tried an alternative it either insists on making me work with playlists, or only wants me to control it via the {many expletives deleted}rodent pointing device. or both. Worse still with the version I added to my Arch install (extra/kaffeine 1.0pre3-1) the command "Playlist ->Save As" doesn't work. So I have to work with playlists I create from one of my other distros. Another odd thing about this version of kaffeine is that "File ->Play Audio CD" only likes to play the first track... Could somebody recommend another media player I could try that will let me create temporary music lists on the fly by typing the path to a parent dir containing multiple music directories??? One that understands keyboard commands for it's functions??? And hopefully one that doesn't force me to break out a microscope to read any displayed text or labels on some prettified gui representation of some livingroom sound system where I don't even know which knob or button it wants me to click on is supposed to do what??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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[arch-general] Failed installation - part 2
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

Hello all, I retried the installation that failed last week, with the same result. But this time I found this: 3 packages were reported to be 'corrupted': gettext-0.17-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz perl-5.10.1-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz man-pages-3.24-1-1-any.pkg.tar.gz I could well have missed this last time as to see the error you have to scroll down the page instead of just hitting RETURN to continue. I tried again twice using different mirrors, same result. All this with the 2009.8 install images, and run with LC_COLLATE=C. Then I tried the new one. This time all packages downloaded without errors, but the install failed at the 'Install GRUB' stage with on tty7 the messages that neither of /boot/grub/stage1 /grub/stage1 did exist. So now I'm really lost... The only real difference between this install and all the previous ones is that this time I have to go via an http proxy. Any help will be appreciated ! -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] testing xorg-server 1.8 [xorg18]
by Marek Otahal 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

Thank you for a great job, Jan. I can confirm the xorg-server 1.8 works great for me! :) I'm running on [testing], i686, kernel 2.6.33.2, xf86-video-intel, touchpad(synaptics), keyboard, usb keyb/mouse hotpluging works as well, sound(intel hda) & guvc video webcam .... just upgraded and voila, works like a charm! :) Happy Easter to all of you! Marek ...well, here's an update after a deeper tryout :) *touchpad(synaptics) - issues with tapping which does not work /buttons do/ *a note for testers, one can disable !hal from rc.conf but make sure to include dbus instead(hal used to start it up) otherwise policykit fails *I have troubles with resuming from suspend/black screen/ but have to make sure if it is not a problem of kernel. *as I'm using kde, here's a problem: battery monitor is disabled and i'm not sure if cpu freq scaling under kde works(probably problem of kde?, acpi command shows correct info), also there is a dependency on hal- pacman -Rcsn hal would remove a great bunch of packages(including kde), how do I figure, whats the dep.? Thanks once again, Mark PS: I would reply to arch-dev-public thread but i don't have write access to it -- Marek Otahal :o)

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[arch-general] F@H Group Logo Missing
by James Corley 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

The Folding@Home Arch Linux group logo is missing. http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=45032

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl, heimdal and icu rebuilds
by Flavio Costa 05 Apr '10

05 Apr '10

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de> wrote: > > OpenOffice related packges: > > > > OpenOffice-base is done. > > Go-OpenOffice i686 done, x86_64 failed due to a smp related issue. Will > > build it over night non-smp. > > > > Openoffice-base- beta/devel are missing and both are no stoppers to > > me and will be build with updated versions within a few days. We can > > leave them out for now. > > > > > > Xorg-server depends on OpenSSL. So we need to move it along with > > OpenSSL/Heimdal/Icu rebuild. Means also to move the kernel and other > > related Xorg packages from testing (not the Xorg18 repo). > > > > So far now further issues. Signoff x86_64. > > I had good luck with everything yesterday on both my i686 and x86_64 > boxes. pacman-git hiccuped a bit but that is my own fault (so had to > do some reinstalling when vercmp was failing due to linking issues). > openoffice-base was also working fine last night on my x86_64 box. > > Thanks to everyone who chipped in here, this was a big update that got > done really quickly. I'll signoff for both architectures on just about > everything (i686 is a headless, no-X box, x86_64 is my desktop). > > -Dan > I had some 'vercmp' linking issues when upgrading to kernel26 (2.6.33.1-1 -> 2.6.33.2-1) and system-tools-backends (2.8.3-1 -> 2.10.0-1), so I guess it is not an isolated problem. After the complete -Suy, I manually -S'ed kernel26 and system-tools-backends and they ran smoothly. -- Flávio Coutinho da Costa

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[arch-general] Some icons don't work anymore since update to Gnome 2.30
by Karol Babioch 04 Apr '10

04 Apr '10

Hi, I've upgraded to Gnome 2.30 today, which worked quite great so far. I'm astonished by the speed such updates get into the repositories, you are doing a great job! However I've experienced a strange issue. Whenever I try to click on some of my icons on the desktop (e.g. "Computer", "Home", "Trash"), the desktop seems to get refreshed, and nothing happens. Other icons (text files, movies) work just like expected, so I don't know what the issue could be. When I start Nautilus from the menu, it works also just great, so there has to be something with the icons wrong? Can anyone reproduce/confirm this? Seems really odd! -- Best regards, Karol Babioch <karol(a)babioch.de>

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[arch-general] Sign-offs for community-testing?
by Ng Oon-Ee 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

Hi all, I noticed a new pulseaudio in [community-testing], do request for sign-offs for that come to [arch-dev-public] as well? Or the AUR ML (which I'm not on)?

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[arch-general] new netinstall image required ?
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

Hello all, I wanted to do a new install today, using netinstall on an USB stick which has worked at least 5 times before, the last time less than two weeks ago. Things failed in the 'Configure System' phase, seems I didn't have an /etc under /mnt (and yes I did have a '/' partition and it was mounted on /mnt !). Do I need a new /arch/setup ? Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] heimdal-1.3.2-1 (from testing) still linked against openssl 0.9.8
by Chris Brannon 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi, According to ldd, the heimdal package in [testing] is still linked against openssl 0.9.8. This shouldn't be the case, should it? -- Chris

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[arch-general] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN - how to get it working
by Alain Muls 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi All I managed to get X up although the keyboard is always on US in stead of BE layout, but I think I can find that one out. I also tried to get wifi access but I cannot get the driver installed. On Ubuntu I get the following: [507] [amuls@geodprof: ~]$ dmesg | grep -i wire [ 21.608085] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27k [ 21.608350] iwlagn 0000:05:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54 What is the package to install and what do I have to do afterwards? bye/Alain

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[arch-general] RAID 1 - Grub Problem / not finding stage1 file
by b1 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hello alltogether I am desperatly trying to get raid working. Currently I have Arch installed on /dev/sda and I would like to make an RAID 1 Array out of it (using /dev/sdb). I followed the guide from the wiki (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID) and now I am stuck when I try to install grub on my newly created raid1-drive (Chapter 3.6 in the Wiki). Everytime I do a find /grub/stage1, grub only discovers the stage1 file on /dev/sda, but not the one on my raid-drive (/dev/sdb). I have tried this normally and from within the chroot environment, with no success. When I try to install the bootloader manually via root(hd1,4) setup(hd1) grub gives the error 14: filesystem compatibility error. I have absolutly no idea, what I can do now. /dev/sdb5 is a ext2 filesystem with type "Linux Raid Autodetect", containig all the necessary files (mounting the partition and doing an ls shows the stage1 file). Any help on what I should do now is greatly appreciated Thanks Benedikt

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[arch-general] Problem with suspend
by Csomay Mihaly 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi, I'm configuring suspend/resume on an Acer 1810TZ, but I have a small problem. I already set it up to suspend when I close the lid, I modified /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh to this: #! /bin/sh DISPLAY=:0 /bin/su csm -c "/usr/bin/i3lock -c 000044" /usr/sbin/pm-suspend It works as expected, turns off the wifi, etc., restores fine when I hit a button. So I would think that running pm-suspend from a terminal would work also, but it hangs on /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98-smart-kernel-video. If I move that file away, it suspends, but then the screen isn't restored on resume, it's blank. The worst part of it is that it worked from the command line once, but back then I didn't know that hibernating with kms-enabled intel chips results in memory corruption, and it killed my root partition so bad I had to reinstall. And now it's not working. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. csm

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[arch-general] Gnome 2.30 already?
by Brendan Long 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Wow guys, I've always liked how Arch gets updates much faster than other distros, but how many hours has this been out? Kudos to the Arch devs. -Brendan Long

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[arch-general] An amazing disk problem !
by Nilesh Govindarajan 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

Hi, I'm having an amazing disk problem. My disk has LVM configured. /home and swap sits on LVM, while / is direct. USELVM=yes is enabled in /etc/rc.conf and also it is there in mkinitcpio.conf The problem is that, sometimes when I boot, fsck complains that it wasn't able to find a ext2 superblock, and drops me to a sulogin shell. Now if I run fsck -vyf /home, it works. Even if fsck isn't run, it mounts properly using the command mount /home. Now again when I restart, it will say the same thing or boot properly (seems like a random choice :D). At last fed up, I issued the following commands at the sulogin shell: mount -o remount,rw / hostname Linux (yeah that's my hostname) mount /home init 5 And it worked successfully. Any ideas about this AMAZING problem ??!?!? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !

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[arch-general] Firefox Qt package
by Bernhard Friedreich 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Hello! In case anyone is interested: I created a proof of concept - very basic - firefox-qt package and the needed xulrunner package. (No this is no april fools joke) :P You can find more information about the whole affair on my blog: http://friesoft.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/did-anyone-say-firefox-qt-with-arc… Does anybody know how I can replace the original firefox-qt package on aur? I think it's obsolete and it doesn't seem to work (I think). Best regards, Bernhard Friedreich

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[arch-general] Keyboard not working in X11
by Alain Muls 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Hi All I have a GeForce 9600 GT graphics card and installed the nvidia driver. I had difficulties in getting a X11 screen with the terminal, but finally I made it. The xterm comes up but my keyboard does not work. Any suggestions? Tx/Alain ------------------------------ *Alain Muls* alain.muls(a)rma.ac.be Royal Military Academy Tel +32 2 7426340 Renaissance Avenue 30 Fax+32 2 7426622 B1000 Brussels - Belgium

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[arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings
by Nathan Wayde 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Here's one for ya. Decompress a gzip'ed package, say pacman. Now, recompress every file in that directory with `xz -1`, smile :) Result: the re-compression is faster than a tar+gz and in each case so far(kerne26, gcc, perl, pacman, kdelibs) is a little smaller as well. It doesn't approach the (much smaller) size of tar+xz but it does take less time to compress and is smaller than what we had before. I know, you're thinking why do that. I wanted to implement an idea for the A.R.M, which is basically to allow downgrade on a file-by-file basis, my theory is that most(many) of the files in 2 versions of a package (esp. when they are minor versions or pkgrel bumped) are often exactly the same. My test involved kdelibs-4.3.98-1 and kdelibs-4.4.0-3. I first decompress both, and remove the duplicates from kdelibs-4.4.0-3 which results in sizes of 59.5MB for the original kdelibs-4.3.98-1 and 35.5MB for the de-deduped kdelibs-4.4.0-3. Now recompressing with `xz -1` kdelibs-4.4.0-3 is brought down to 10.7MB. Comparing with the delta (between the original packages) which 5.3MB it's not a whole lot while allowing more flexibility(IMHO). Some more numbers for comparison, the tar+xz(level -6) for kdelibs-4.4.0-3(de-duped) was 8.4M in comparison to tar+gz which was 12.6MB the original tar'd sizes were 19.8MB for gz and 13.9MB for xz. I know I didn't test based on pkgrel or try gz(as opposed to xz -1) only nor did it very scientifically but I thought it was very interesting non-the-less. I also suspect that the similar results would be seen for a test with xdelta on each file but that's not very useful to me so I'll leave that one for another day.

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[arch-general] new pacman error: vercmp: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8
by David C. Rankin 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Guys, After the pacman update tonight, I am getting errors every once in a while during updates that say: vercmp: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /tmp/alpm_DBOUwW/.INSTALL: line 8: [: -lt: unary operator expected It doesn't seem to be hurting anything, but didn't know if I needed to do anything else about it. What say the gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Boot iso with grub2
by Christopher Rogers 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

There has been a request for a findiso boot option so you can boot the iso with grub2 on a usb stick. I have this feature in my archiso-live and it works very well. Here is some code i have for it: _mnt_iso() { img="${1}" #mnt="${2}" mnt="/tmpfs/mnt/findiso" msg "::: Mounting ${img} to ${mnt}" mkdir -p "${mnt}" mount -r -t iso9660 "${img}" "${mnt}" } I remade my archiso hook to look more like the official one yesterday. I also added a _mnt_move function so you can move mounts instead of just bind them. Here is code for that: _mnt_move() { src="${1}" mnt="${2}" msg "::: Moving ${src} to ${mnt}" mkdir -p "${mnt}" /bin/mount -o move "${src}" "${mnt}" } I believe the /bootmnt could use _mnt_move instead of _mnt_bind. I have more features that could be added too. I hope this helps.

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[arch-general] Problem mounting shares with latest smbclient-3.5.0-2
by Nigel Henry 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

I have smbclient-3.5.0-2, and did the suggested chmod +s on /sbin/mount.cifs, and /sbin/umount.cifs. The UID, and GID bits are now set on both, but I still can't mount shares from KDEmod3's smb4k (version 0.9.9). The error message says "/sbin/mount.cifs: permission denied: no match found for /home/djmons/smb4k/GATEWAY/djmons found in /etc/fstab". Now I don't believe I need an entry in /etc/fstab because on my Debian lenny install an entry is created in /etc/mtab when the share is mounted, and removed when unmounted. I can't revert back to my earlier version of smbclient (version 3.3.7-1), as I only recently installed the samba package (samba-3.5.0-2), and have no version to match my earlier version of the smbclient. are earlier package versions still kept somewhere? I do have more than one user set up on this Archlinux install. Would that have anything to do with why the chmod +s isn't doing it's job properly? idiotboy:x:1002: djmons:x:1003: Any suggestions as how to resolve the problem. Nigel.

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[arch-general] Getting X running on new install
by Alain Muls 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Hi All, I am using Ubuntu since 2005 and I like it. The only problem is that each 6 month I am spending some time to update. I have for that 2 root partitions available. I heard about Arch Linux and its rolling release and decided to try it out. The base install went fine and I have a running core system. So I decided to tackle the X server which under Ubuntu uses the nvidia proprietary driver. I installed pacman -S nvidia nvidia-config and gave startx from my user account a try. No luck, the message was cannot load module nvidia. Then I used lshw and the card is loisted as G96 [GeForce 9600 GT] both under Ubuntu and Arch Linux. I uninstalled the nvidia and installed pacman -S nvidia-96xx nvidia-config and again no luck. How can I get this card up and running with full hw support as under Ubuntu? Tx/Alain

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Re: [arch-general] Getting X running on new install (Ionut Biru)
by Alain Muls 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

> > > On 03/30/2010 06:40 PM, Alain Muls wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am using Ubuntu since 2005 and I like it. The only problem is that each > 6 > > month I am spending some time to update. I have for that 2 root > partitions > > available. > > > > I heard about Arch Linux and its rolling release and decided to try it > out. > > > > The base install went fine and I have a running core system. > > > > So I decided to tackle the X server which under Ubuntu uses the nvidia > > proprietary driver. > > > > I installed > > pacman -S nvidia > > nvidia-config > > > > and gave startx from my user account a try. No luck, the message was > cannot > > load module nvidia. > > > > Then I used lshw and the card is loisted as > > G96 [GeForce 9600 GT] > > both under Ubuntu and Arch Linux. > > > > I uninstalled the nvidia and installed > > pacman -S nvidia-96xx > > nvidia-config > > > > and again no luck. > > > > How can I get this card up and running with full hw support as under > Ubuntu? > > > > Tx/Alain > > you should really read beginners guide. everything is covered there. > everything have to installed. after a core installation be sure to fully > update the system: > pacman -Syu > > after that you _need_ to install xorg. > pacman -S xorg > > after that you may decide what driver you want to use. > pacman -S nvidia > > -- > Ionut > > > Hi That is exactly what I did. I am not a beginner and have read quite some articles about Arch and I am aware of the fact that I have to follow carefully all steps in this installation process. So pleas bear with me and hep me over this problem. Since it failed I tried to identify the card (I did not know the lshw command before) and redid the steps with the driver for the nvidia-96xx card. Again no X-screen. I also copied the xorg.conf from Ubuntu over to Arch but again no X server that would run. I also tried the nouveau driver and he is given as error: (EE) [drm] failed to open device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found It is the second time I try to install Arch, I really want to try out this rolling principle, but again I am unable to get up the X server which is working without flaws in Ubuntu.

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[arch-general] pacman error
by Shridhar Daithankar 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Hello, I got this error when I ran pacman -Syu. [root@bheem horo]# pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... ... <lots of package listing,mostly KDE4.4.2> Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 894.60 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y checking package integrity... error: error while reading package /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings- smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz: Lzma library error: No progress is possibleTruncated input file (needed 5484032 bytes, only 0 available) error: failed to commit transaction (libarchive error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. [root@bheem ]# ls -la /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings-smoke-4.4.2-1- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2441216 2010-03-31 05:03 /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings-smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz My guess is I would have to wait till mirrors sync. out possibly. Is there anything else I should look for? -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] Network gurus - Weird datadump -- looks like dns or wins (or both) - anybody know what caused it? (read more)
by David C. Rankin 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Guys, Not very often, but every now and then you see something you haven't seen before and wonder, "WTF?" "How did I do that?". What is shown below 'happened' when I was doing a simple move on a file, really. The command was: 'mv Documents AnswerSMTV.odt' (I have scp'ed a file to the server under :~/Documents -- but I didn't have a ~/Documents directory -- thus the need for a move) Note: none of the transfers below involved my other laptop 'zephyr' so I don't know why its hostname popped up. From the looks of the output it looks like a dump of my reverse zone, except that hosts 'nemesis', 'bonza', 'elder' and 'providence' are not on my home lan, they are boxes at my office, so it is something more than that. And, why the directory information scattered within what got spit out? The directories are those in my $HOME directory The 'curiosity-killed-the-cat' side of me just wants to know what process spit this stuff out. Any ideas? (complete dump follows below -- I get there was a timeout involved) 14:09 nirvana:~> mv Documents AnswerSMTV.odt 14:09 nirvana:~> scp AnswerFailed to resolve service 'zephyr [00:11:f5:15:2d:83]' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local': Timeout reached SMTV.odt Failed to resolve service 'zephyr [00:11:f5:15:2d:83]' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local': Timeout reached Failed to resolve service 'zephyr [00:11:f5:15:2d:83]' of type '_workstation._tcp' in domain 'local': Timeout reached 192.168.6.101: bonza.rbpllc.com: nemesis.rbpllc.com: 192.168.6.102: bugs/ nirvana: 192.168.6.112: cnf/ nirvana.3111skyline.com: 192.168.6.113: dcrgx: nirvana.local: 192.168.6.118: dcrgx2: pdf/ 192.168.6.121: dcrgx2.3111skyline.com: providence: 192.168.6.131: dcrgx2.local: providence.rankinfirm.com: 192.168.6.14: dcrgx.3111skyline.com: providence.rbpllc.com: 192.168.6.149: Desktop/ public_html/ 192.168.6.15: dev/ rankinfirm.com: 192.168.6.150: doc/ rankin-p35a: 192.168.6.16: dt/ rankin-p35a.3111skyline.com: 192.168.6.18: ecstacy: rbpllc.com: 192.168.6.19: ecstasy: ripper: 192.168.6.2: ecstasy.3111skyline.com: ripper.3111skyline.com: 192.168.6.20: elder: scr/ 192.168.6.24: elder.rbpllc.com: supersff: 66.76.63.60: fonts/ supersff.3111skyline.com: alchemy: ftp: supersff.local: alchemy.3111skyline.com: GNUstep/ suse/ alchemy.local: img/ themes/ AnswerSMTV.odt kidsdell: tmp/ apps/ killerz: trinity: arch/ killerz.3111skyline.com: windows/ archangel: lakehouse: www: archangel.3111skyline.com: lakehouse.3111skyline.com: zephyr: archangel.local: localhost: zephyr.3111skyline.com: arete: mail: zion: arete.3111skyline.com: Mail/ zion.3111skyline.com: bin/ mmedia/ bonza: nemesis: 14:09 nirvana:~> scp AnswerSMTV.odt Got SIGINT, quitting. ^C (I have no clue what was canceled by the ctrl+c, the move completed successfully) The long and short of it -- there were no ill effects. The dump occurred, and things just kept clicking right along... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] ArchLinux in space?
by Dan Vratil 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi, I was surprised when I read today that scientists found a pacman installed on one of Saturn's moons! See yourself: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/features/2010/pac-man-mimas.html This probably makes ArchLinux the furthest installed distro ever! :-) -- --------------------------------- Dan Vrátil vratil(a)progdansoft.com ICQ 249163429 Jabber progdan(a)jabber.cz Tel. +420 732 326 870

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[arch-general] [OT][kde-announce] KDE SC 4.4.2 Released
by Gaurish Sharma 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi, Just wanted to share new version 4.4.2 KDE Upstream is out. Its mainly a bug fix realease and no features are added. All users are expected to update as it would improve over stability of system. -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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[arch-general] /etc/rc.local: "chown user: /dev/sda10" /etc/fstab: "defaults, owner, noauto"
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

/etc/rc.local: "chown user: /dev/sda10" /etc/fstab: "defaults,owner,noauto" Or more accurately: /etc/rc.local: "chown jtwdyp: /dev/disk/by-label/j10_lap-10" I've been allowing only my normal user account to mount 3 such user "owned" partitions in various distros this way {without needing to use sudo} for years. I know that ever since USB devices made static /dev/* lists unusual, the ownership of any partition gets set to root during root. But I've always been able to count on my root script to chown them back, returning ownership to the data owner, if {depending on the distro} I either sourced it in some rc.local file, OR if some debian based distro didn't like rc.local script's I'd just symlink it with something like: ln -s /root/bin/fix_dev /etc/rcS.d/S38fix_dev I only needed to take care that my root script 'chown'ed the partitions AFTER the device names in /dev had been dynamically created. And it worked. I was pleased to note that Arch evidently does think a rc.local is an appropriate place for local initialization stuff to happen. However it's come to my attention that about 5 out of the last 25 times I've booted Arch only 2 of the 3 partitions 'chown'ed in my /root/bin/fix_dev script can be mounted by my user account. (unless I use root account to manualy rerun the /root/bin script...) On the occasions when a user script's attempt to mount the 3rd such partition fails {with an error message telling me that only root can do that} the other two such partitions mount just fine. Is there something special I need to do to get Arch to *_consistently_* respect all three chown commands??? I really dislike the idea of changing the fstab entry from "owner" to "user" even if since the mountpoint is in a subdir of /home/jtwdyp, I could just rely on: cmod 700 {the mount points parent dir} along with the file permisions within the partition itself, to keep the data private. Somehow it just wouldn't feel right to extend the mount permisions to just any user even though this multi-boot linux box is my personal computer that nobody else uses... Recommendations anyone? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6.1-1
by Xavier Chantry 29 Mar '10

29 Mar '10

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Andrea Scarpino <andrea(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> On Friday 26 March 2010 13:57:08 Allan McRae wrote: >>> Upstream bug fix release. >>> >>> Signoff both, >>> Allan >> I got a segfault when I do: >> $ grep -qrl --include "desc" "^pacman$" "/var/lib/pacman/local/" >> >> x86_64 >> >> -- >> Andrea >> > > Same here, not surprisingly. If someone wants to compile with debug > symbols, they'd probably have more of an idea than this: > > $ gdb --args grep -qrl --include "desc" "^pacman$" "/var/lib/pacman/local/" > A very quick look at the git repo : http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grep.git/commit/?id=54d55bba41f2ff31682fe6… I just love these easy to browse web interface :)

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[arch-general] preserve db tarballs
by Caleb Cushing 29 Mar '10

29 Mar '10

when the files like core.db.tar.gz are downloaded they aren't preserved right? is there any way to configure pacman to preserve them? my problem is that I've switched to using wget and that now these are always downloaded... out of date or not. I imagine it's because wget doesn't actually have a file to check because they aren't preserved. I use wget because I throttle the download, I can easily fill my ADSL. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

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[arch-general] Pulseaudio doesn't see the correct sound card.
by "Jérôme M. Berger" 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Hi, I have two "sound cards": one is the integrated sound card on my motherboard and the other is the HDMI output from my video card. The integrated sound works fine with ALSA, but when I tried using pulseaudio, it only sees the HDMI card (according to pactl list). I tried changing /etc/pulse/default.pa: - First, I tried replacing module-udev-detect with module-detect. This resulted in pulse seeing the integrated sound card, but only the S/PDIF output, not the speakers; - Then I tried removing autodetection and using module-alsa-sink directly, but the pulse daemon failed to load the module. Anybody knows how I can get pulse to see my alsa sound card? Thanks, Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger(a)jabber.fr

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[arch-general] The libgmp update
by Hilton Medeiros 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Hello, just to confirm, all the packages linked against the new libgmp should follow 'coreutils' example and use 'gmp>=5.0', right? I just saw that gnunet didn't. Cheers, Hilton

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6.1-1
by Guillaume Brunerie 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

2010/3/27 Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> > On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 22:57 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > > Upstream bug fix release. > > > > Signoff both, > > Allan > > Signoff x86_64. > > On my computer (x86_64), "grep -r a ." segfault, with grep 2.6.1-1. "echo a | grep a" works without problems.

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[arch-general] cups - dependency breaks upgrade "/etc/cups/subscriptions.conf exists"
by David C. Rankin 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Guys, A cups check on /etc/cups/subscriptions.conf is stopping an update from completing: samba-3.5.1-1-i686.... 10.3M 129.5K/s 00:01:21 [########################################################] 100% ttf-junicode-0.6.17... 910.0K 127.3K/s 00:00:07 [########################################################] 100% vim-bufexplorer-7.2... 16.9K 54.5K/s 00:00:00 [########################################################] 100% xine-lib-1.1.18.1-1... 2.7M 126.6K/s 00:00:22 [########################################################] 100% :: Retrieving packages from community... keepassx-0.4.3-1-i686 1076.7K 128.9K/s 00:00:08 [########################################################] 100% checking package integrity... (247/247) checking for file conflicts [########################################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) cups: /etc/cups/subscriptions.conf exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. Do you want me to open a ticket? I've just move subscriptions.conf as a work around. Shouldn't this situation just result in a .pacnew file instead of stopping the update? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Dirty fonts in Chromium
by Nilesh Govindarajan 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Appearance of sites in Chromium is very dirty, though I didn't change the default font settings. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] Firefox Spellcheck Missing
by Carlos Mennens 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

I just installed Firefox from Pacman repositories and noticed that I don't have the default add-on spell checker for Mozilla Firefox. I was afraid to download some crappy 3rd party spell checker add-on for Firefox and just wanted a plain English spell checker since I am the worst speller. Can anyone please help me and tell me how I can install / download the default Firefox English spell checker?

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[arch-general] Vim Syntax Highlighter
by Carlos Mennens 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

I noticed today when editing a config file for Postfix in Vim that one value was listed in white text only and everything else was in color. This lead me to beleive the value or parameter was wrong or not being recognized by Postfix configuration but it is. I asked Postfix and the said: "Your VIM syntax highlighter is out of date" Can anyone tell me if there is a way to update this manually if I have the latest version of Vim in my Arch repo?

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Re: [arch-general] gsfonts - package is updated?
by Francois Charette 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

On 26/03/2010 11:18, Xavier Chantry wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Firmicus<Firmicus(a)gmx.net> wrote: > >> PS: Yes, the stupid version numbers for those fonts used upstream by the >> ghostscript project is also part of the mess I was referring to, but far >> worse it the fact that the fonts have not been released as a standalone >> tarball for so long. The fonts themselves (outlines and metrics) are of a >> very high quality, so there is no problem in that respect. It's just that >> the ghostscript project does not seem to care releasing them. The tarball >> was generated by Fedora from the ghostscript svn repo. The new version not >> only fixes the bug mentioned above, but also adds glyphs for Cyrillic. >> >> > Did you try to communicate with upstream ? It is not always bound to failures :) > It just takes a few minutes to write a mail. And sometimes there are results ! > > Done http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=687297#c31

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[arch-general] gsfonts - package is updated?
by Ng Oon-Ee 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Repository : extra Name : gsfonts Version : 1.0.7pre44-1 Installed : 8.11-5 URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gs-fonts/ I'm assuming this is a simple mess upstream on non-consecutive version numbers? The linked sourceforge page still lists 8.11 as the stable version, while the one currently in extra is listed as 'pre' (and doesn't seem available in the sourceforge page?

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[arch-general] tmpfs
by Juan Diego 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Good day everyone, I want to delete the next two lines from my fstab: none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 however I would like to know the secondary effects of doing such thing, all the information I could get on the internet is that shm is for POSIX shared memory support and that almost any program actually use it, for devpts I couldn't find much information about it. does anyone knows if it is safe to remove those lines from my fstab? thank you.

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[arch-general] rankmirrors with arch-games
by Daenyth Blank 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

For some reason rankmirrors seems to really hate the arch-games mirrorlist. I don't know whether it's a bug or whether there's some sort of server misconfiguration. [root@Muspelheimr pacman.d]# rankmirrors -t archgames-mirrorlist Querying servers, this may take some time... * * * * Servers sorted by time (seconds): http://pseudoform.org/arch-games/games/i686 #(Nürnberg, Germany. Maintainer: svenstaro) : 1.01 http://repo.exigen.org/arch/games/i686 #(Düsseldorf, Germany. Maintainer: s4msung) : unreachable http://repo.archlinux-gaming.org/i686 #(Toronto, Canada. Primary mirror) : unreachable ftp://mirror.selfnet.de/arch-games/i686 #(Stuttgart, Germany. Maintainer: hrist) : unreachable All of the above servers respond to ping and their repos can be browsed manually and synced with using pacman.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] grep-2.6-1
by Xavier Chantry 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Upstream big update. > > Local changelog: > - Removed the multibyte locale speed-up patch (and all the patches to fix > the issues it created...) as it is now included upstream. > - Removed the other patches as it appears they are not being considered > upstream. > > Upstream NEWS: > * Noteworthy changes in release 2.6 (2010-03-23) [stable] > > ** Speed improvements > > grep is much faster on multibyte character sets, especially (but not > limited to) UTF-8 character sets. The speed improvement is also very > pronounced with case-insensitive matches. > That's awesome. After all these years, I thought this would never happen :) I did a quick benchmark before and after, and I got very similar results, so we are good. grep -i is still considerably slower than grep in UTF-8 (0.1 -> 1.5s , that is 15x slower), but IIRC it was MUCH worse with an unpatched grep 2.5, like hundred of times slower. With LANG=C , grep and grep -i are both at 0.1s.

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[arch-general] Kernel LTS won't boot properly
by Nilesh Govindarajan 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

I installed kernel26-lts. It will boot properly upto Udev then screen will flicker and then nothing shows up, but it seems like the boot is going on. Its just after when INIT changes the screen font. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] Issue with man
by Damien Churchill 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

I've got a rather confusing issue with man. Whenever I try and view a man page I just end up with a blank screen. http://www.imagebam.com/image/41dd5973332829 This occurs for any page, even for local ones. I was wondering if anyone would be able to shed any light on why this is occuring? Thanks, Damien

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[arch-general] upcoming Xiph releases
by Ray Kohler 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Just a heads-up to package owners that there will be several xiph.org releases very soon now. libao appears to be the only thing with a soname bump (2.1.3 -> 4.0.0). I don't think the rebuild list for it should be very long. See below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <xiphmont(a)xiph.org> Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Vorbis-dev] upcoming releases (was: adding directory contents to ogg123 playing in sorted order?) To: Ray Kohler <ataraxia937(a)gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Ray Kohler <ataraxia937(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Can I take it that the releases of libao and vorbis-tools are > imminent, then? The doc updates from the last day have that feel to > them also. > > I ask because I'd like to give a heads-up to the Arch devs since the > libao release will have a soname bump, and thus they'll have some > rebuilding to plan. (And is libvorbis getting a release soon as well?) I will be releasing libogg, libvorbis, libao and vorbis-tools by the end of the week (I hope). Schedule is actually 'tomorrow', but some small amount of slippage is traditional. Monty

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[arch-general] New Using AUR
by Carlos Mennens 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

I had two questions about using the AUR. I have never done it before and read of the How-To on the Wiki but could someone please answer the following two questions I have: 1. If I build a tarball on 'PC1' downloaded from AUR with the 'makepkg -s' command, can I then transfer the created tarball to 'PC2' and install it even though PC2 didn't have any of the required packages used to create the tarball from the AUR? 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually?

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[arch-general] Chromium default browser
by Nilesh Govindarajan 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

How to make Chromium as default browser ? I'm using KDE. But I'll like to have the same setting in GNOME too. I changed the command at systemsettings from 'firefox' to 'chromium' It although opens chromium, but doesn't open the link in it. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] dbus-core 1.2.24
by Ng Oon-Ee 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 12:43 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > Following the crasher release of 1.2.22, this should fix FS#18796. > Please test and signoff. > User signoff x86_64, I reported that bug. 1.2.24 does not show the specific issue reported in FS#18796.

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[arch-general] Battery Monitor Applet (kde4) hangs after s2ram
by Markus Golser 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Hi, after I resume from s2ram my battery monitoring applet does not refresh anymore. It shows 100% loaded and plugged in all the time. I have to kill plasma every time in order to get the current charge. cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_now <- shows the correct charge. Maybe someone can help me. Notebook = Dell Inspiron 9400

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[arch-general] MySQL Starts But Fails to Restart
by Carlos Mennens 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

I don't understand this issue so I am posting this here. I noticed today that I had an issue with restarting MySQL on my server: 1. I verify MySQL is not running: Code: [root@ghost /]# ps -ef | grep -i "mysqld" root 1706 1216 0 16:45 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i mysqld 2. I start the 'mysqld' service: Code: [root@ghost /]# /etc/rc.d/mysqld start :: Starting MySQL Server [DONE] 3. I verify that the daemon is running: Code: [root@ghost /]# ps -ef | grep -i "mysqld" root 1715 1 0 16:45 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir=/var/lib/mysql mysql 1813 1715 0 16:45 pts/0 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --log-error=/var/lib/mysql/ghost.err --pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/ghost.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306 4. I then run the command to restart the daemon for MySQL and it fails... Code: [root@ghost /]# /etc/rc.d/mysqld restart :: Stopping MySQL Server [DONE] :: Starting MySQL Server [FAIL] I can use the 'start' and 'stop' commands for /etc/rc.d/mysqld but 'restart' for some reason fails and this concerns me. Can anyone help me understand what is wrong?

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[arch-general] Unable To Rendor PHP Pages in Apache
by Carlos Mennens 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

I today installed Apache on my Arch Linux server. I did the following: # pacman -S php apache php-apache mcrypt pcre Then I edited the /etc/php/php.ini file & un-commented the following: [...] extension=mcrypt.so extension=mysql.so extension=mysqli.so ;extension=odbc.so ;extension=openssl.so ;extension=pdo.so ;extension=pdo_mysql.so [...] I then restarted the 'httpd' service and when I try to render a HTML page with PHP code, it wont rendor the code properly and just looks like a script / code. I don't understand why I can't get Apache to render PHP pages. Does anyone know what I am missing? This is only a problem for me on Arch. RHEL, Debian, Ubuntu. and Slackware all work out of the box. Any suggestions?

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[arch-general] PyPy Build
by Vivek Ayer 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Hi guys, I'm having a little bit of trouble building pypy and pypy-svn from AUR. Any chanced someone has a prebuilt arch package for i686 already? If so, may I download it? My X41 only has a 1GB of RAM and the HD on it has degraded. I started the build for pypy on it last Thursday and it's still building! It's using all my RAM and ~400 MB of Swap space. I'd really appreciate any help. Thanks, Vivek

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[arch-general] libpng12 and libjpeg6 from AUR fix kdemod3 100%
by David C. Rankin 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Guys, Just dropping a note on the build and install of libpng12 and libjpeg6 from AUR to fix the problem I had with the kdemod3 install on my new arch box. After installing the two packages, kde3 seems to be 100% healthy. Immediately, all icons and graphic handling returned just like you would expect. Now if I could just figure out how to create a kde3 menu item in the kdm greeter, it would be perfect. Currently, I have to drop to tty1, kill kdm and then use startx with /opt/kde/bin/startkde specified in my ~/.xinitrc file to get kde3 started. How does one create a desktop entry in the kdm greeter scheme so I can launch kde3 from there? It can't be that hard, I have pekwm, blackbox, openbox and fluxbox and gnome entries in there along with kde4, but I don't know where the "magic switch" is so kde3 will appear. What's the trick? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Firefox 3.6 vulnerability
by Daniel Bumke 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Dear all, I'm not entirely sure whether this is an issue for Arch Linux, but I thought you should be aware of a critical security vulnerability reported for Firefox 3.6 (it seems earlier versions are not affected). The issue is fixed in version 3.6.2 for which a release candidate it available. The release is due later this month. Further info: http://secunia.com/advisories/38608 http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2010/03/18/update-on-secunia-advisory-sa38… Regards, Daniel

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[arch-general] CUPS working fine through 3/15 now won't print?
by David C. Rankin 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Guys, I have a love/hate relationship with cups. For the past eight years at least I have configured cups to share laserjet printers at both the office and home and 99.9% time, I never have to think about printing again. The other .1% is usually what seems like an effort in futility trying to get cups to print. I am having one of those .1% moments now. I enabled cups printing on my arch server about a month ago and it just printed without issue until my wife needed to print today. No cups is refusing to print at all. The strange part is that the cups daemon seems to be freezing or crashing requiring a kill -9 on cupsd to kill it and restart the process. For example, I can open the web interface of port 631 and I can change options, look at the printers and past jobs, etc..., but when I send a job to the server, the web interface freezes, nothing prints and I have to use 'kill -9 <cupsd pid>' to stop cups and restart it. For example: [00:46 nirvana:/var/log/cups] # /etc/rc.d/cups stop :: Stopping CUPS Daemon [DONE] [00:52 nirvana:/var/log/cups] # ps ax | grep cups 4618 pts/1 S+ 0:00 vi cupsd.conf 5052 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf 5128 pts/3 S+ 0:00 grep cups [00:52 nirvana:/var/log/cups] # kill 5052 [00:52 nirvana:/var/log/cups] # ps ax | grep cups 4618 pts/1 S+ 0:00 vi cupsd.conf 5052 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf 5131 pts/3 S+ 0:00 grep cups [00:52 nirvana:/var/log/cups] # kill -9 5052 Huh? I have debugging enabled and cups seems to be choking on ssl cert generation. That's strange, I just thought I was using basic authentication: I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Full reload complete. I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Cleaning out old temporary files in "/var/spool/cups/tmp"... I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Listening to 0.0.0.0:631 on fd 6... I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Listening to :::631 on fd 7... I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock on fd 8... I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Resuming new connection processing... D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] cupsdRegisterPrinter(p=0x7fca7bf68f00(LaserJet)) E [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Unable to set ACLs on root certificate "/var/run/cups/certs/0" - Operation not supported D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:09 -0500] Discarding unused server-started event... D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "lo" = localhost:631 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "eth0" = nirvana.3111skyline.com:631 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "lo" = localhost:631 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "eth0" = fe80::2e0:81ff:fe55:4e1d%eth0:631 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: clients=0 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: jobs=15 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: jobs-active=0 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: printers=1 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: printers-implicit=0 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: stringpool-string-count=285 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=6160 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:10 -0500] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=6192 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:59 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: 12 from localhost (Domain) D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:59 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 12 WAITING Closing on EOF D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:59 -0500] cupsdCloseClient: 12 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:59 -0500] cupsdCloseClient: 12 D [22/Mar/2010:01:05:59 -0500] cupsdAcceptClient: 12 from localhost (Domain) I [22/Mar/2010:01:05:59 -0500] Generating SSL server key... That where the process dies.... My cupsd.conf is simple, but maybe I have something that is killing me? It is available here: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/Archlinux/cupsd.conf (note: I am a member of groups sys, lp and wheel) If anybody is smart on cups, I would appreciate a bit of help figuring out what is not working here. The printer itself is an old Laserjet_4 connected to the servers parallel port and its printer.conf is: # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4.2 # Written by cupsd on 2010-03-21 14:13 # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE WHEN CUPSD IS RUNNING <DefaultPrinter LaserJet> Info Home Office Laserjet 4 Location nirvana MakeModel HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5 DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 State Idle StateTime 1267682110 Type 12356 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer </Printer> Any help would be greatly appreciated. The current cups package is: cups 1.4.2-3. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Schroot no longer working?
by Ng Oon-Ee 22 Mar '10

22 Mar '10

Hi all, schroot stopped working with this error message today:- E: 10mount: E: boost::filesystem::create_directory: No such file or directory: "/var/lib/schroot/mount/Arch32-d43bee30-1708-4fd2-b087-346ae0f39b42/proc/bus/usb" E: Arch32-d43bee30-1708-4fd2-b087-346ae0f39b42: Chroot setup failed: stage=setup-start The following packages were upgraded (immediately following successful usage of schroot at 6.30 am). Any idea which of those could be the cause? At first I thought about the boost upgrade some time back, then realize I've been using schroot daily with no problems anyway... [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded cpio (2.10-1 -> 2.11-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded dbus-core (1.2.20-1 -> 1.2.22-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded dbus (1.2.20-1 -> 1.2.22-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded glib2 (2.22.4-1 -> 2.22.5-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded desktop-file-utils (0.15-1 -> 0.16-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded libtasn1 (2.4-1 -> 2.5-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded gnutls (2.8.5-1 -> 2.8.6-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded libxt (1.0.7-1 -> 1.0.8-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded ghostscript (8.71-2 -> 8.71-3) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded gtk2 (2.18.7-1 -> 2.18.9-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded gtk-sharp-2 (2.12.9-1 -> 2.12.10-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded hdparm (9.27-2 -> 9.28-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded nspr (4.8.3-1 -> 4.8.4-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded nss (3.12.4-2 -> 3.12.6-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded perl-xyne-arch (2010.03.20.1-1 -> 2010.03.21.1-1) [2010-03-22 07:14] upgraded usbutils (0.86-2 -> 0.87-1) For reference sake, using chroot works (am running am update of those very same packages right now).

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[arch-general] I'm having a brain far^Hilure... I can't find the XFCE control
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

I know it can be done. I've done it twice, once in Xubuntu, and once in PCLinuxOS... I've managed to turn off all the other annoying desktop icons. But I cant find the control to tell it to stop cluttering up my XFCE desktop up with iconic representations of my hard drive partitions. could somebody give me a clue how to disable them? Thanks! -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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[arch-general] Arch Linux security is still poor....
by Ananda Samaddar 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

Further to my previous email a while back I've started work on some proposals that I'd like to pitch to the Arch community and the powers that be. They aren't finished yet but should be soon. The thing is I'm not really aware of the 'chain of command' in Arch. Aaron Griffin, are you the 'benevolent dictator' and do you have the final say? The reason I'm asking is I want to know to whom I address my proposals when they are finished. For example I'll probably be proposing some admin changes, nothing too sweeping but just some things that could be done to implement better security in Arch. For the mean time I've created the IRC channel #archlinux-security on Freenode. Anyone is free to hang out there to discuss security in Arch and how we (emphasis on the we, i.e. the community) can make things better. My IRC nick is psychedelicious, I was previously using a different nick based on a Funkadelic album released in 1971. I won't be on there 24x7 but will be online as much as possible. I'd particularly like to see people on that channel interesting in volunteering to create a Security Response Team for our distro! Also I'm aware I've posted under several different email addresses. After toying with several free providers I decided to stop being a cheapskate and get my own domain so this is my canonical email address now. regards, Ananda Samaddar

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[arch-general] HTML5, Youtube and chromium-browser
by Gaurish Sharma 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

Hi, I tried installing following packages on x86_64 [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32085 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31368 But it didn't work. I get this: http://www.imagebam.com/image/708acc72799349 Anyone managed to get youtube videos working in HTML5/h.264 format on chromium browser? -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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Re: [arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Roberto Malinverni 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

> >> jue, mar 18, 2010 at 06:07:20 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan dijo: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm experiencing this problem from quite a long time. But > >> I don't know why. > >> > >> I have a LG DVD Writer. It supports writing and reading DVD-R DVD+R > >> DVD-RW DVD+RW, all CDs and some other DVD flavors I don't remember. > >> > >> I tried a Fedora boot DVD at boot, it worked. But inside arch (it > >> was the same problem with fedora), it won't work. > >> > >> I don't think this needs any special driver because previously I'd > >> never configured a special driver for that. > >> > >> CD's work fine though. > > > > it's sata or ide? when i started using linux i had to change the 40 > > "strings" ide cable to one of 80, due to troubles while > > reading/writing > > dvds... > > > > hope this helps :) > > > > Its connected by IDE now. I have a SATA converter with me > though. Should > I use that for my drive ? Nope. If it is a ide device, just check that your ide cable is of the type with 80 conductors. Take a look at the images here, to see the difference between a 40 and a 80 conductor cable (both have 40 pin). My NEC DVDRW refused to work without such a cable. Roberto -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto.

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Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
by Jonathan Brown 20 Mar '10

20 Mar '10

Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much. Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again. ----- Original Message ---- From: Sam Harada <sam(a)peasantoid.org> To: Jonathan Brown <jbssfl(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 1:22:18 AM Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:26:12AM -0700, Jonathan Brown wrote: > I am a NOC technician at a data center- > > I will install it for you if you like- > > We have some pretty good deals on servers > > email sdodman(a)sagonet.com > and tell him what kind of dedicated server you are looking for and he'll give you a good deal- > Be sure to tell him that Jon B. recommended you contact him and that I said I will install Arch Linux on the server and that there won't be any extra charge to install that OS > > Bear in mind, we do try to help our unmanaged dedicated server customers as much as possible with software issues etc and anything else that we can up to a point (meaning if it gets intensive we will usually have to charge ATS etc), but we don't really support Arch, and I'm the only one there with experience with Arch.. so it would truly be unmanaged, unless you happen to catch me as your support technician when you open a support ticket.. > > That being said - get a dedicated server from us and I'll gladly throw Arch on there for ya! (I honestly think out of our 5000+ servers, there is not ONE with Arch .. lol) You probably should have responded to arch-general(a)archlinux.org rather than my address. Either that or you're spamming me. Please don't. Protip: Make your email client respect the Reply-To header.

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[arch-general] fdisk vs cfdisk... And is my drive borked or what?
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

I'm new to Arch. I recently dumped a very bloated Sabayon installation which left me enough room on my laptop for two other distros... I went with PCLinuxOS AND Arch because both sounded like reinstalling from scratch wasn't a twice a year thing... Actually I tried installing PCLinuxOS on a usb drive before I dumped Sabayon. But something went wrong in the first attempt when the installer formatted the new PCLinuxOS root partition on /dev/sda (as it called my usb drive) and promptly wrote the partition table to /dev/hdb (as it called my laptop's internal drive... ARGH! Fortunately after a send attempt succeeded in installing to usb drive succeeded some tool called "testdisk: was able to restore my laptop's partition table. And every thing worked again... (That was the last time I'll ever let an installer format anything. Strictly pre-partition and pre-mkfs from now on...) Any way I only mention it because When I got around to installing Arch on one of the two partitions I recovered from Sabayon, I skipped the installation step of letting cfdisk touch my partitions and simply selected the partition I previously prepared for it with mkfs.ext3. But later as working my way through the beginners guide in the wiki, the clear explanation of why distro's like to use UUID instead of /dev/Xdx# sold me on using persistent (BUT HUMAN READABLE!!!) entries like: "/dev/disk/by-label/Arch_lap-7" & "/dev/disk/by-label/SWP_lap-12" Especially since there was a wealth of how-to info right there in the wiki... But in the process I happened to do an: fdisk /dev/sda Which complained about a dos compatibility flag and that I should change the display/entry units to sectors. This showed me a small bit of unused space above my last logical partition (/dev/sda12)... Anyway I decided to look at it with cfdisk (which I haven't used in years but remembered as being easier to work with than fdisk...) But all I got from cfdisk was. => FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk => Press any key to exit cfdisk Which considering the recent "testdisk" repair, frightened be a bit. But it also frustrated me. Especially since fdisk didn't show anything like that... Unless maybe: When "cfdisk /dev/sda" says "partition 3:" is it counting from 0? That is, does it mean "/dev/sda4" ??? Because that's my extended partition... And a close look at the ending cylinder/sector of /dev/sda4 is a slightly higher number than it reports the total cylinders/sectors to be... I've pasted both the sector and cylinder views of my part table below, Is this anything I should be worried about??? Is there a way to fix this without destroying everything in the extended partition??? (That's a LOT of backing up to dvd, and I don't have room anyplace else...) -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders, total 234441648 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x4573c650 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 63 55456379 27728158+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 55456380 68372639 6458130 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda3 68372640 70332569 979965 83 Linux /dev/sda4 70332570 234452609 82060020 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 70332633 103538924 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda6 103538988 136745279 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda7 136745343 169951634 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda8 169951698 175815359 2931831 83 Linux /dev/sda9 175815423 183622949 3903763+ 83 Linux /dev/sda10 183623013 195334334 5855661 83 Linux /dev/sda11 195334398 232444484 18555043+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 232444548 234436544 995998+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x4573c650 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 3452 27728158+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 3453 4256 6458130 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda3 4257 4378 979965 83 Linux /dev/sda4 4379 14594 82060020 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 4379 6445 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda6 6446 8512 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda7 8513 10579 16603146 83 Linux /dev/sda8 10580 10944 2931831 83 Linux /dev/sda9 10945 11430 3903763+ 83 Linux /dev/sda10 11431 12159 5855661 83 Linux /dev/sda11 12160 14469 18555043+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 14470 14593 995998+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

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[arch-general] Open Konsole Here ???
by Nilesh Govindarajan 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

KDE used to have an "Open Konsole Here" option as it appears in Nautilus when you install nautilus-open-terminal. Where's it vanished ? Or I'm missing some addon ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site& Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] [OT] ArchLinux on uncyclopedia
by Gaurish Sharma 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, Sharing ArchLinux's article on uncyclopedia[1]. Its awefully funny. I almost fell from my chair laughing. Here is a small part of it: "The almighty Judd has succeeded in making Archlinux the only Linux distribution which combines all the worst features Slackware and Gentoo have to offer. Archlinux is mighty fast, only runing on computers with a certain leetness factor (codenamed 686+), and features a package manager with an extremely funny name: pacman. When used with a large pill, Pacman is also a very valuable tool for devouring ghosts." Also, checkout the modified Wallpaper http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iaFx0ymozoI/SPWLes9mLOI/AAAAAAAAAPE/B4iXp3vdw30/s800/… Read full [1] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Archlinux -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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Re: [arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Roberto Malinverni 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

> ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:20:21 +0530 > From: Nilesh Govindarajan <lists(a)itech7.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] DVD's won't read > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <4BA259CD.8000200(a)itech7.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > My drive has in total only 40 pins. How an 80 pin connector would fit > into it ? > Sorry, I forgot to post the link: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html All ide devices have only 40 pin, but ide cables come in two flavour, one with 40 pin /40 connectors, the other with 40 pin /80 connectors. They fit both with every ide device, but some device works correctly only with the 40/80 type of cable. Roberto -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto.

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[arch-general] patch command not working?
by Preston C. 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

When I try to use the 'patch' command it tells me "command not found"? Yet, there is an entire man page on this command. Any reason for this? Preston

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[arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers
by Nilesh Govindarajan 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, Do you know some dedicated server / VPS provider (unmanaged), who supports Arch Linux, with good service and reasonable rates ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] New versioned-dep libgl on xorg-server
by Ng Oon-Ee 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, I saw this mentioned in the forums as well, but it was basically a 'wait for new version' advise given. Latest xorg-server in [testing] (1.7.6-1) has a versioned dep on libgl (libgl>=7.7.0.901). I'm sure there's reasons for this, since as I recall versioned deps are used sparingly if at all. I use nvidia-utils-beta however, and it only provides libgl (no specific version). nvidia-utils from [extra] is the same. Is it safe to merely make nvidia-utils-beta provide libgl=7.7.0.901, and will this be done with the nvidia-utils backage from [extra]?

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[arch-general] [signoff] mdadm-3.1.2-2
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

This is a bugfix/stability release over 3.1.1. Significant changes are: - The default metadata has change again (sorry about that). It is now v1.2 and will hopefully stay that way. It turned out there with boot-block issues with v1.1 which make it unsuitable for a default, though in many cases it is still suitable to use. - Stopping a container is not permitted when members are still active - Add 'homehost' to the valid words for the "AUTO" config file line. When followed by "-all", this causes mdadm to auto-assemble any array belonging to this host, but not auto-assemble anything else. - Fix some bugs with "--grow --chunksize=" for changing chunksize. - VAR_RUN can be easily changed at compile time just like ALT_RUN. This gives distros more flexability in how to manage the pid and sock files that mdmon needs. - Various mdmon fixes - Alway make bitmap 4K-aligned if at all possible. - If mdadm.conf lists arrays which have inter-dependencies, the previously had to be listed in the "right" order. Now any order should work. - Fix --force assembly of v1.x arrays which are in the process of recovering. - Add section on 'scrubbing' to 'md' man page. - Various command-line-option parsing improvements. - ... and lots of other bug fixes. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] mdadm-3.1.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

This is a bugfix/stability release over 3.1.1. Significant changes are: - The default metadata has change again (sorry about that). It is now v1.2 and will hopefully stay that way. It turned out there with boot-block issues with v1.1 which make it unsuitable for a default, though in many cases it is still suitable to use. - Stopping a container is not permitted when members are still active - Add 'homehost' to the valid words for the "AUTO" config file line. When followed by "-all", this causes mdadm to auto-assemble any array belonging to this host, but not auto-assemble anything else. - Fix some bugs with "--grow --chunksize=" for changing chunksize. - VAR_RUN can be easily changed at compile time just like ALT_RUN. This gives distros more flexability in how to manage the pid and sock files that mdmon needs. - Various mdmon fixes - Alway make bitmap 4K-aligned if at all possible. - If mdadm.conf lists arrays which have inter-dependencies, the previously had to be listed in the "right" order. Now any order should work. - Fix --force assembly of v1.x arrays which are in the process of recovering. - Add section on 'scrubbing' to 'md' man page. - Various command-line-option parsing improvements. - ... and lots of other bug fixes. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Package signing (was: Arch Linux security is still poor)
by Linas 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I had already this email draft in my head, but Ananda 'Arch Linux security is still poor' thread, on which the point was also brought up, moved me to really write it. First off, there's an implicit level of trust on the package software, no matter which OS you use. When using Windows, you trust in Microsoft, when using Mac OS, you trust in Apple, when using a Linux distro, you trust the packagers and upstream. Either you do that or trust just whatever came installed and not install anything ever (thus not patching to new vulnerabilities). The problem with Arch current packaging system is not that you must trust people able to write in core not to add a rm -rf / (to name the classical 'attack') nor that you didn't install arch with an infected media. The problem is that every time you do pacman -Syu, you must blindly trust that your dns, network, and mirror are reliable, too. The packages are verified with a md5 from the server list, but should you update from a compromised mirror (or impersonated, eg. arp poisoning, dns spoofing, bofh proxy operator...) you have lost. A pacman -Syu from an open wifi might be enough. A later update may 'clean' it, so you may not even notice that you were once compromised. There are several ways to close the gap: *Always download the package list from ftp.archlinux.org It's the easier solution, but it only protects against the mirror operator. Moreover, it increases load on that server and makes it a single point of failure. *Package lists are signed from a trusted master key. There may be up to a key per repo. Easy to provide, allows backward compatibility. *Packages are automatically signed by ftp.archlinux.org before distributing them. Removes the dependancy over the package list. Packages can be shared securely (eg. getting a downgrade for an untrusted user). *Each developer signs its own packages prior to uploading. Each repository key signs the keys of the developers with write access. Users can blacklist or trust independent developers. Needless to say, the last solution is the one I like most. However, being more complete, it also means more work. :) The package signing could be a simple text file with filenames and hashes (preferably something more secure than md5) signed with gpg, or could be expanded if more fields are needed. Do you think this is a good idea? Which solution do you prefer? And most important, what would be needed to reach there? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[arch-general] howto get kde3 to appear as a session in kdm greeter?
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, In Arch, how do I make kde3 appear as a choice in the kdm greeter? I thought I just had to add a kde.desktop launching /opt/kde/bin/startkde in /usr/share/xsessions, but that didn't do it. What's the trick? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] [signoff] dmraid-1.0.0rc16-3
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

HI, readded static dmraid again to fix: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18348 please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I still have kde3 installed primarily because the apps konqueror (a real konqueror) kwrite, kate, etc. in kde3 are much lighter to run in fluxbox or other wm's than the kde4 apps and the kde3 apps don't spew reams of text to your xterm when they run. Are there any tips or trick to keeping these apps viable a bit longer? If so, how? The error I get is probably just a sym link issue: 13:47 archangel:~> /opt/kde/bin/konqueror --profile filemanagement /opt/kde/bin/konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I then start the kde4 version and suddenly I have 5,000 lines of crap on my xterm: 17:10 archangel:~> konqueror --profile filemanagement konqueror(20906)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::checkDatabase: We have no database.... launching kdeinit konqueror(20906)/kdecore (kdelibs) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running... launching kdeinit kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) klauncher(20918)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherT20918.slave-socket" kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::processRequestReturn: "/usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4" (pid 20924) up and running. kbuildsycoca4 running... kbuildsycoca4(20924)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::checkTimestamps: checking file timestamps kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::checkDirTimestamps: timestamp changed: "/usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/" kbuildsycoca4(20924) kdemain: Reusing existing ksycoca kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::recreate: Recreating ksycoca file ("/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4", version 162) kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "okularGenerator.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-applet.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kwineffect.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "solidpowermanager.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-packagestructure.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kopeteplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "krfb-framebuffer.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "ktexteditor_loadsavefiltercheckplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kpropertiesdialogplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kcmoduleinit.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kateplugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "dbustexttospeech.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kregexpeditor.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "solidremotecontrolmanager.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "korganizerpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-containment.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "krdc_plugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kompareviewpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "screensaver.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kerfufflePlugin.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "thumbcreator.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-scriptengine.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kdedmodule.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "kmediaplayer.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "findpart.desktop" kbuildsycoca4(20924) KBuildSycoca::createEntry: modified: "plasma-wallpaper.desktop" <big snip> konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/ss" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/scripts" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/dcrsig" konqueror(20906)/konqtree KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir: KonqSidebarDirTreeModule(0x1024ee0) KonqSidebarDirTreeModule::addSubDir "file:///home/david/img" konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorw20906.slave-socket" konqueror(20906)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave "thumbnail" for KUrl("thumbnail:/home/david/img") konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorP20906.slave-socket" klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::requestSlave: KLauncher: launching new slave "kio_thumbnail" with protocol= "thumbnail" args= ("thumbnail", "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/klauncherT20918.slave-socket", "local:/tmp/ksocket-david/konquerorP20906.slave-socket") kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_thumbnail.so klauncher(20918)/kio (KLauncher) KLauncher::processRequestReturn: "kio_thumbnail" (pid 20933) up and running. kio_thumbnail(20933)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-david/ksycoca4" kio_thumbnail(20933)/kdecore (trader) KMimeTypeTrader::query: query for mimeType "text/plain" , "ThumbCreator" : returning 1 offers konqueror(20906)/kio (KIOJob) KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch: error 104 "Cannot create thumbnail for directory" If possible, I would very much like to have the kde3 versions running. Can I just sym link to the latest libpng? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Thunderbird 3 annoyance
by David Rosenstrauch 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I'm having a little annoyance with TBird 3, and was wondering if anyone was experiencing the same thing and/or had a workaround. I have a large tree of folders in TBird, from 2 different IMAP accounts. So I use the "Unread Folders" view, in conjunction with the mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new config setting. Problem is that since the upgrade to TBird 3, when TBird grabs new email, it automatically selects a different folder in the left ("Unread Folders") pane. This is really irritating. I really want TBird to just stay on the folder I've selected - no matter whether it gets new email or not. Anyone know how to fix this? Is there some magic new config setting for this? I tried googling on this, but it's hard to find good search terms to describe the problem. Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] DVD's won't read
by Nilesh Govindarajan 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hi, I'm experiencing this problem from quite a long time. But I don't know why. I have a LG DVD Writer. It supports writing and reading DVD-R DVD+R DVD-RW DVD+RW, all CDs and some other DVD flavors I don't remember. I tried a Fedora boot DVD at boot, it worked. But inside arch (it was the same problem with fedora), it won't work. I don't think this needs any special driver because previously I'd never configured a special driver for that. CD's work fine though. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] kernel26 2.6.32.10-1 Boot Failure at initrd/initramfs
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I just attempted an update which installed kernel26 2.6.32.10-1 on my x86_64 box. After the update, the box failed to boot and the boot process stopped at the initrd/initramfs. (I have the slash because I can't remember the exact init----) But it was very early in the boot process. I have checked logs and nothing for this boot attempt was written to the logs. I suspect it was too early in the boot process for logging to be enabled. I have never tried to recover from a failed arch boot before. What's the proper way. Boot with the install cd and chroot your install and either downgrade to the last kernel or try mkinitcpio again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] pdftk - almost build but died - need help figuring out if I can find a work-around
by David C. Rankin 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Guys, I need pdftk for a script I use that does fax processing. I ran into this problem 6-7 months ago, but still had another server with pdftk on it so it wasn't critical. Now, I need to solve it. Currently pdftk in AUR is out of date due to it a dependency of gcc-gcj requiring it to be built against gcc-4.3. The building gcc-4.3 and then gcc-gcj part of the pdftk build goes fine (takes forever, but goes fine). The build seems to crater on a java-lib issue. Here is the actual error with a few lines of context: patching file pdftk/Makefile.Base patching file java_libs/com/lowagie/text/pdf/PdfEncryption.java patching file java_libs/Makefile make -C ../java_libs make[1]: Entering directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs' make -C "/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text"; make[2]: Entering directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text' gcj -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -w --encoding=UTF-8 --classpath="/usr/share/java/libgcj-4.3.jar:/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs" -c Anchor.java -o Anchor.o Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.9) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.batch.GCCMain not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar], parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}} at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.9) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.9) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.9) at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.9) make[2]: *** [Anchor.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs/com/lowagie/text' make[1]: *** [itext] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/pdftk/src/pdftk-1.41/java_libs' make: *** [java_libs] Error 2 The problem is I am no good at figuring out what this is telling me I need to do to fix it. I know there was an exception thrown in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ........ what I don't know is whether this is telling me there is a javalib version mismatch or something similar and whether this is something I might work around by loading/building some alternative java package, etc.. If you have any idea what is going on here, please pass along a pointer or two. If this is just one of those areas where I'm screwed and there isn't a way around it -- well knowing that would be helpful too. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Abort forced filesystem check on boot
by Rorschach 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi, I have written a small patch for rc.sysinit which gives the user the ability to abort a forced filesystem check with pressing the escape-key. I haven't found another feature-request in the bugtracker for this so I opened one: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18400 . What do you think about it?

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[arch-general] HAL depreciation
by Damjan Georgievski 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Does anyone know how much of HAL is needed in ArchLinux these days? I'm asking because I've learned that both udev and HAL configure the keymap of input devices nowdays and I wonder what other former HAL features are already implemented in udev. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates
by Denis Kobozev 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi archers, It has been repeated a lot of times that doing piecemeal updates with pacman -Sy pkgname is not a very good idea. What about ignoring packages? Is it as dangerous? And a more general question: is it even theoretically possible to have a bleeding edge distro with piecemeal updates and with no required manual intervention during updates or is it just a pipe dream? Best, Denis.

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[arch-general] Arch is ummnn different: my 1st installation: tried to install xfce...OOPS!
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hello, I've been using various Linux distros for a while now. I just decided to give Arch Linux a try. But I'm a little bit lost. I'm used to distros like Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, etc... Where I don't need to personally understand what order I need to install which packages to get at least one GUI desktop up & running... The install itself went ok. But I needed to add a few things. First I used the list of typical tasks for pacman from the installation guide, to figure out how to look for a package and install it with pacman. I installed mc and vim without a problem. Then I thought it would be nice if I could get a desktop up. I did a: pacman -Si xfce|less and looked for a package that might get me to a minimal desktop I could work with. I thought maybe xfdesktop... pacman -S xfdesktop It wanted (I think) 26 packages to satisfy the dependencies... Sounded low to me but what do I know? I figured the next step would be to ask for help (or a good step by step how-to) But sooner or later I was going to want xfce so I said yes... I didn't get any errors until the last package (xfdesktop itself) Then there was an error with a line number (oops I didn't write it down) And I think something about gtk & icons, (something not existing...) <sigh> {If I'd figured out how to activate GPM I'd have pasted the error into a text file so that I could accurately report what it said.} When pacman reports an error, listing just one line number like that, does it stop processing. Or does the fact that there was only one error (about icons I think) mean that everything else in the package installed successfully??? More to the point: Will I need to figure out how to uninstall xfdesktop to resolve the error? Could some nice Arch user point me at enough step by step instructions so that I can get enough of a gui up to use a browser like firefox so I can try to find solutions via the web while Arch is actually running??? Please! -- | ^^^ ^^^ | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> | ' `

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[arch-general] Hacking into HAL's mount process
by Nilesh Govindarajan 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

By default HAL adds the flush flag when USB devices are mounted... I think which is what making WRITEs slow. I want that HAL shouldn't add the flush flag. How to ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.1-1
by Ignacio Galmarino 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

On 03/15/2010 01:16 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > No idea if it is time for signoff yet, I have to check that with tpowa. > However, I put 2.6.31.1 in testing with these changes: > > - Added a trivial patch to support my touchpad (selfish, I know, but it > is already accepted upstream for 2.6.34) > - Removed EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23 due to some problems that upstream isn't > quite finished discussing yet - we can keep using the ext2 and ext3 > drivers for now. > sign off x86_64 ATI KMS early start is working again ! Ignacio

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[arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4
by Shridhar Daithankar 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Hi, Just wanted to share an interesting experience I had today. Check http://ghodechhap.net/btrfs.performance.txt -- Regards Shridhar

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.1-1
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

On 03/15/2010 08:14 PM, Eric Bélanger wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Thomas Bächler<thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > >> No idea if it is time for signoff yet, I have to check that with tpowa. >> However, I put 2.6.31.1 in testing with these changes: >> >> - Added a trivial patch to support my touchpad (selfish, I know, but it >> is already accepted upstream for 2.6.34) >> - Removed EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23 due to some problems that upstream isn't >> quite finished discussing yet - we can keep using the ext2 and ext3 >> drivers for now. >> >> >> > I'm getting a: > error: /dev/sr0: No medium found > when building my initrc. The device exist and is my CD-drive. This is > on i686. Ask if you need more info This is already reported here: FS#18585 - [mkinitcpio] Silent error message: No medium found in autodetect hook http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18585 -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] twm: cannot open fontset
by Thanos Zygouris 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hello listmates, Here is a problem i encountered: twm doesn't start...i got this message instead: /usr/bin/twm: unable to open fontset <anyfont> I tried almost all the fonts xfontsel showed me, including "fixed", "terminal", "terminus", but with no success... But when i changed my $LANG from en_US.utf8 to C, twm worked! I tried to start twm into my friends pc (archlinux x64 also) and it worked right away (LANG=en_US.utf8) Searched Google and Archlinux forums, but seems like i'm the only person who have this problem (or bother with twm :P) I'd like to log in to twm, without having to change $LANG variable (as the normal behaviour is)...Can someone help me here? PS. I attached my xorg.conf, in case it matters...

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.32.10-1
by Thomas Bächler 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Packages are NOT in testing (as 2.6.33 is there), but available from http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kernel26/ Please sign off.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?
by Heiko Baums 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org>: > I really do not see the need. > > If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen. > If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... > we already closed the bug report. > If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report. And this is forcing the reporter to begging for reopening and looking again at the bug. Closing a bug too early can in the reporter's sight mean: "Hey! I'm the king and I decide if I'm willing to fix the bug. And if I don't want to, then you don't have to say anything. Your subject to my merci." Of course this is a bit exaggerated and of course in most cases the developer doesn't mean it, but this is how the reporter can easily understand it. And this can lead to such misunderstandings and to angry reactions. Don't see this only from your (the developer's) point of view. Try to see it from the reporter's point of view. Greetings, Heiko

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[arch-general] Resigning as a Bug Wrangler
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hello all, my free time is over to stay in the bugtracker in this year. In few days, I will start a new caeer "math professor", I am really very happy because it's something I always wanted to study, and beyond that, I really like teaching. Besides, I work as a teacher in a secondary school in electronics labs, along with other tasks. I hope I was helpful in the short time (9 months as Bug Wrangler / 14 months as Arch User). It really was an interesting experience and I learned a lot of everything in each day. (Also a bit of english language is improved :P) I want say thanks again to Andreas Radke, who at the time, offered me to be in the bugtracker (Secret: In fact, I bothered him via messenger asking him to allocate the multiple tickets that I was opening every day, hehehe :P), thanks for trust in me, and thanks all those who make Arch Linux more and more better :) @Roman: 's/Bug Wranglers/Reporters/' @Dieter: I will stay in these places if you need help in what I can do to archiso-2010.03 Good luck \forall ;) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] newsbeuter 2.2 PKGBUILD (diff)
by Kitty 14 Mar '10

14 Mar '10

Hi all, Here's the diff to update newsbeuter to 2.2, it's a fresh release, as of this morning. It builds and installs. ------------------- --- /home/kitty/Downloads/PKGBUILD(2) 2010-03-14 10:19:35.533972938 -0700 +++ PKGBUILD 2010-03-14 10:09:43.734084982 -0700 @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ # Contributor: Sven Pfleiderer <pfleidi(a)roothausen.de> pkgname=newsbeuter -pkgver=2.1 +pkgver=2.2 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A RSS feed reader for the text console with special Podcast support" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ source=(http://www.newsbeuter.org/downloads/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz \ $pkgname-archlinux.patch) -md5sums=('f732bb0302b44a3723dea81e81804fb9' +md5sums=('2add1dfe8d3684e67ab75f0c5172c705' 'b92a7ef0e458b5dee15af01bfdf1f383') build() { -- Kitty

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[arch-general] Something really wrong with yum-createrepo from AUR - doesn't work.
by David C. Rankin 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

Guys, The yum-createrepo package seems not to be the same as the createrepo package that you normally see. Specifically executing the yum-createrepo script with the help option discloses: [13:35 nirvana:/home/backup/rpms] # createrepo --help Usage: genpkgmetadata.py [options] Options: --version show program's version number and exit -h, --help show this help message and exit -q, --quiet output nothing except for serious errors -v, --verbose output more debugging info. <snip> Huh?? Usage: genpkgmetadata.py [options] genpkgmetadata.py is part of createrepo, but the expected output is: 13:38 nemesis:~> createrepo --help createrepo [options] directory-of-packages Options: -u, --baseurl <url> = optional base url location for all files -o, --outputdir <dir> = optional directory to output to -x, --exclude = files globs to exclude, can be specified multiple times -q, --quiet = run quietly The AUR package doesn't seem to be looking for the correct input. You can't create or update a repository without specifying where the repository is?? However, the packages do share many of the same options "-p pretty, -d create sqlite dbs, etc..", but regardless, running the yum-createrepo from AUR fails: [13:41 nirvana:/home/backup/rpms] # createrepo --update -d factory_11.0/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/createrepo/genpkgmetadata.py", line 249, in <module> main(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/share/createrepo/genpkgmetadata.py", line 223, in main mdgen.doPkgMetadata() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py", line 367, in doPkgMetadata self.writeMetadataDocs(packages) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py", line 531, in writeMetadataDocs self.primaryfile.write(po.xml_dump_primary_metadata()) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 1082, in xml_dump_primary_metadata msg += misc.to_unicode(self._dump_format_items()) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 967, in _dump_format_items msg += self._dump_requires() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 1022, in _dump_requires mylist = self._requires_with_pre() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 1278, in _requires_with_pre pre = map(self._is_pre_req, lst) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/packages.py", line 1268, in _is_pre_req rpm.RPMSENSE_SCRIPT_PRE | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'RPMSENSE_PREREQ' Anybody have an idea what is going on? I think if the errors are corrected it will work, but I'm nut sure the PKGCONFIG is putting all the pieces together correctly. I guess I'll try just putting the package together from source and compare what is going on, but if anybody has any ideas, I would welcome the input and help. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?
by Heiko Baums 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:58:24 +0100 schrieb Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de>: > Yes, there are sometimes situations where I wanted to add a more or > less important comment to a bug reports but it was just closed. > > In the other hand I see the problems of never ending discussions and > flame wars. In other bug trackers I haven't seen never ending discussions and flame wars on closed bugs, yet. Sometimes long discussions happen on open bugs, but usually in a factual manner, and usually there's a reason for this, because it's a controversial issue. If a comment is written on a closed bug it's just to give some more details, because the fix is not quite sufficient or could be made still better or the like. And in cases in which it's possible to reopen a bug directly without sending a request, I also haven't seen exploitations. Usually the bug is reopened once or twice to give another argument or another aspect. But then it's alright. How many bug reports are actually invalid because of an imperfect knowledge or (search) laziness of the reporter? How many bug reports are of the type Aaron Griffin has mentioned before (Feature request, closed as "won't implement", reopend with "but it's a good feature", denied with "we won't implement this, wait for upstream", reopened, denied)? Are there really so many of them? I have my doubts. Or is this more the developer's fear that this could happen? And as I've written in other e-mails, don't see only your developer's point of view. See also the user's and reporter's point of view and how a certain bug handling (early closings, forcing reopening requests (begging), etc.) is or at least can be received by the user/reporter. Btw., comments on closed bugs is more or less a minor issue. The bigger issue is the early bug closing. ;-) Heiko

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[arch-general] Where to install python apps: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/xyz??
by David C. Rankin 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

Guy, I know nothing about python other than what it is. I need to install repoview-0.6.5 on my arch server, but I'm not sure where. Looking at the other python apps like cairo, FusionIcon, etc.. thay seem to be installed as a subdirectory to: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ The repoview directory contains: drwxr-xr-x 3 david david 4096 Feb 19 13:31 templates -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 3457 Feb 19 13:31 ChangeLog -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 18009 Mar 3 2005 COPYING -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 708 Jul 19 2007 README -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 2634 Sep 27 2007 repoview.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 david david 32932 Feb 19 13:31 repoview.py Do I just move the directory to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/? Then is there something else I need to do to "register" (for lack of better words) repoview somewhere so python knows it is there? Then what about the man page? Anything special required to do I just move it to /usr/share/man or /usr/local/man? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] gbd missing from extra?
by richard terry 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

couldn't retreive the gnu debugger from pacman -S gdb, and looking in the extra repo it didn't seem to be present. any reason? Richard

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?
by Xavier Chantry 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> Does anyone have an opinion on this? >> >> In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply >> wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM >> requests in the past to know that this _does_ happen. >> >> Opinions? >> > > I really do not see the need. > > If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen. > If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... we > already closed the bug report. > If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report. > Closing bugs should not be a race, I had several times the feeling that a bug was closed too fast and it can indeed be annoying. Ideally the one who opened the bug should give an ACK for having their bug closed. There is always something to say. At least a confirmation that the bug was fixed. Eventually a comment about how it was fixed. And you might have additional information / explanation / clarification that is mostly interesting for the people who followed that bug. It seems completely stupid to need a reopen request just to do that.

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Re: [arch-general] Customising arch iso
by Dieter Plaetinck 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:17:07 +0000 Damien Churchill <damoxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 12 March 2010 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck <dieter(a)plaetinck.be> wrote: > > you can also build your own iso's using archiso. > > it's pretty easy, although you need archiso from git and you must > > let it look in a repository that contains a 2.6.33 package (ie > > archlinux testing) > > > > Dieter > > > > Ok cool, thanks! > > I'm just going to try installing using the core cd and then copying > the kernel and firmware packages over via flash, if that fails too > then I'll resort to creating my own cd! you could also try a netinstall cd and enable the testing repository in /tmp/pacman.conf. IIRC aif (the installer) uses pacman with that config file, so it might just work, although i never tried it myself. if you are not afraid of looking at bash scripts, look at the source code of aif then you'll see how exactly it works. Dieter

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[arch-general] LTS kernel still boots but MPPC patched one does not after manual updates
by Nigel Henry 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Big problemo. Wanting to get access to my sons MS vpn server which needs MPPC, I found and installed an MPPC patched kernel26, and MPPC patched ppp. No problems so far, and both the LTS, and the MPPC patched kernels booted with no problems. My Arch install hadn't been updated since 20090928, and as accessing the vpn server and retrieving the shares still wasn't working, I did a pacman -Sy, and pacman -Su hoping that some update might resolve the problem. After saying yes to a bunch of stuff to do with klibc (replacing packages), pacman -Su failed saying kdelib needs phonon. Can't install phonon because it wants to remove qt (qt4). I have KDEmod3 so there is no need for phonon anyway. Not the best way to do a full system upgrade, but I went at it manually, working my way through starting at (A). Some packages wont upgrade, wanting to remove mkinitcpio, which you can't remove as it's needed by the kernels. Others didn't want to upgrade saying warning: provider package was selected (that was resolved later on during my manual upgrading). All went ok the first day 20090309, and the only thing I needed to say yes to was replacing kernel-headers with linux-api-headers. The next morning I booted with the MPPC patched kernel with no problems, just to see if any of the updates had resolved the vpn problem, but no. Rebooted with the LTS kernel, and continued with the updates, rebooting from time to time with the LTS kernel to make sure that nothing had broken. Got as far as ntp, then had a go at gdm, which I'd been putting off (I've had problems with that before). rebooted after that, and gdm failed with the below output. gdm (gdm-binary:2033) couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket No such file or directory Having already had the machine down one day, working in runlevel 1 to resolve the missing libpng12 problem (that was on the 8th march) I was a bit T'd off now, but startx worked, so I reinstalled the previous gdm which thankfully worked. I'd now had enough for the days work, so shut down. Day 20100311. Now the manure starts to hit the fan. Tried to boot the MPPC patched kernel, which failed with: cannot find /dev/sda7, device does not exist. Gave udev time, but nothing. Tried the MPPC failsafe kenel, but the same there. Tried the LTS kernel, and thankfully that booted ok. Googled a lot, and found references to the problem, but didn't see any fixes. One mentioned udev, and knowing that the udev update had been pulled in by one of the packages I'd updated, I looked at /etc/udev/rules.d, and udev.rules was showing as udev.rules.pacnew (I presume that is due to the new mkinitcpio and mkinitcpio-busybox using mdev, but mkinitcpio wont upgrade, claiming that a bunch of files still exist.). I renamed udev.rules.pacnew to udev.rules, and rebooted with the MPPC kernel, but it still wont boot. Tried reinstalling MPPC patched kernel, but no change. Original install output below (when it booted ok prior to my manual updating fiasco), followed by the install output from the reinstall (which still wont boot). Had to remove madwifi, and ndiswrapper to originally install this kernel. :: madwifi: requires kernel26>=2.6.30 :: ndiswrapper: requires kernel26>=2.6.30 [root@myhost Archlinux-mppc-kernel]# pacman -U kernel26-2.6.24.3-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz loading package data... checking dependencies... (1/1) checking for file conflicts [#####################] 100% (1/1) upgrading kernel26 [#####################] 100% >>> >>> If you use the LILO bootloader, you should run 'lilo' before rebooting. >>> >>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ... >>> MKINITCPIO SETUP >>> ---------------- >>> If you use LVM2, Encrypted root or software RAID, >>> Ensure you enable support in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf . >>> More information about mkinitcpio setup can be found here: >>> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio >>> Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio. Please wait... ==> Building image "default" ==> Running command: /sbin/mkinitcpio -k 2.6.24-ARCH -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/kernel26.img :: Begin build :: Parsing hook [base] :: Parsing hook [udev] :: Parsing hook [autodetect] :: Parsing hook [pata] :: Parsing hook [scsi] :: Parsing hook [sata] :: Parsing hook [keymap] :: Parsing hook [filesystems] :: Generating module dependencies :: Generating image '/boot/kernel26.img'...SUCCESS ==> SUCCESS ==> Building image "fallback" ==> Running command: /sbin/mkinitcpio -k 2.6.24-ARCH -c /etc/mkinitcpio.d/kernel26-fallback.conf -g /boot/kernel26-fallback.img :: Begin build :: Parsing hook [base] :: Parsing hook [udev] :: Parsing hook [ide] ERROR: module 'ide[-_]gd[-_]mod' not found :: Parsing hook [pata] :: Parsing hook [scsi] :: Parsing hook [sata] :: Parsing hook [usbinput] :: Parsing hook [raid] :: Parsing hook [filesystems] :: Generating module dependencies :: Generating image '/boot/kernel26-fallback.img'...SUCCESS ==> SUCCESS [root@myhost Archlinux-mppc-kernel]# pacman -U ppp-2.4.4-6-i686.pkg.tar.gz loading package data... checking dependencies... (1/1) checking for file conflicts [#####################] 100% (1/1) upgrading ppp [#####################] 100% [root@myhost Archlinux-mppc-kernel]# Reinstall output: [djmons@myhost ~]$ cd Downloads/Archlinux-mppc-kernel [djmons@myhost Archlinux-mppc-kernel]$ su Password: [root@myhost Archlinux-mppc-kernel]# pacman -U kernel26-2.6.24.3-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz loading package data... checking dependencies... (1/1) checking for file conflicts [#####################] 100% (1/1) upgrading kernel26 [#####################] 100% >>> >>> If you use the LILO bootloader, you should run 'lilo' before rebooting. >>> >>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ... >>> MKINITCPIO SETUP >>> ---------------- >>> If you use LVM2, Encrypted root or software RAID, >>> Ensure you enable support in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf . >>> More information about mkinitcpio setup can be found here: >>> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio >>> Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio. Please wait... ==> Building image "default" ==> Running command: /sbin/mkinitcpio -k 2.6.24-ARCH -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/kernel26.img :: Begin build :: Parsing hook [base] :: Parsing hook [udev] :: Parsing hook [autodetect] /lib/initcpio/functions: line 7: resolve-modalias: command not found /lib/initcpio/functions: line 7: resolve-modalias: command not found Whole bunch of these lines until autodetect gives up /lib/initcpio/functions: line 7: resolve-modalias: command not found /lib/initcpio/functions: line 7: resolve-modalias: command not found :: Parsing hook [pata] :: Parsing hook [scsi] :: Parsing hook [sata] :: Parsing hook [keymap] :: Parsing hook [filesystems] :: Generating module dependencies :: Generating image '/boot/kernel26.img'...SUCCESS ==> SUCCESS ==> Building image "fallback" ==> Running command: /sbin/mkinitcpio -k 2.6.24-ARCH -c /etc/mkinitcpio.d/kernel26-fallback.conf -g /boot/kernel26-fallback.img :: Begin build :: Parsing hook [base] :: Parsing hook [udev] :: Parsing hook [ide] ERROR: module 'ide[-_]gd[-_]mod' not found :: Parsing hook [pata] :: Parsing hook [scsi] :: Parsing hook [sata] :: Parsing hook [usbinput] :: Parsing hook [raid] :: Parsing hook [filesystems] :: Generating module dependencies :: Generating image '/boot/kernel26-fallback.img'...SUCCESS ==> SUCCESS [root@myhost Archlinux-mppc-kernel]# Then tried reinstalling kernel26 which was before the MPPC patched one. I get the same output as above, apart from one error line below that is not there on the failsafe kernel26 build. Strangely although the kernel26 wont boot, here the failsafe version boots ok. All a bit weird. ERROR: module 'ide[-_]gd[-_]mod' not found I've put the list of packages I installed on 20100310 from the pacman log below if anyone might see some package or other that I upgraded which might be responsible for the MPPC kernel failing to boot, but the LTS kernel unaffected and booting ok. Btw: The klibc packages are still installed at this time, and presume that if I had been able to get pacman -Su to run, one of the updates would have removed them. Any help would be really appreciated. Nigel. [2010-03-10 12:55] upgraded hal-info (0.20090716-2 -> 0.20091130-1) [2010-03-10 12:55] upgraded hal (0.5.13-2 -> 0.5.14-2) [2010-03-10 12:55] upgraded hicolor-icon-theme (0.10-2 -> 0.11-1) [2010-03-10 12:55] upgraded hunspell (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2) [2010-03-10 13:04] upgraded hwdetect (2009.09-5 -> 2010.02-3) [2010-03-10 13:04] upgraded imlib (1.9.15-6 -> 1.9.15-9) [2010-03-10 13:04] upgraded imlib2 (1.4.2-3 -> 1.4.2-6) [2010-03-10 13:04] upgraded inetutils (1.6-4 -> 1.7-2) [2010-03-10 13:04] upgraded initscripts (2009.08-1 -> 2010.01-1) [2010-03-10 13:09] upgraded iproute2 (2.6.29-1 -> 2.6.31-1) [2010-03-10 13:09] upgraded iptables (1.4.4-1 -> 1.4.7-1) [2010-03-10 13:09] upgraded iputils (20071127-2 -> 20100214-2) [2010-03-10 13:28] upgraded ipw2100-fw (1.3-3 -> 1.3-4) [2010-03-10 13:28] upgraded ipw2200-fw (3.1-1 -> 3.1-2) [2010-03-10 13:28] upgraded iso-codes (3.10.1-1 -> 3.14-1) [2010-03-10 13:28] upgraded iwlwifi-3945-ucode (15.32.2.9-1 -> 15.32.2.9-2) [2010-03-10 13:28] upgraded iwlwifi-4965-ucode (228.61.2.24-1 -> 228.61.2.24-2) [2010-03-10 14:04] upgraded k3b (1.66.0alpha2-3 -> 1.90.0rc1-1) [2010-03-10 14:04] upgraded kbd (1.15-2 -> 1.15.1-1) [2010-03-10 14:17] upgraded lame (3.98.2-2 -> 3.98.3-1) [2010-03-10 14:17] upgraded lesstif (0.95.0-3 -> 0.95.2-2) [2010-03-10 14:17] upgraded libarchive (2.7.1-1 -> 2.8.0-1) [2010-03-10 14:17] upgraded libass (0.9.6-2 -> 0.9.8-1) [2010-03-10 14:17] upgraded libassuan (1.0.5-1 -> 1.0.5-2) [2010-03-10 15:41] installed libssh (0.4.1-1) [2010-03-10 15:41] installed qca (2.0.2-2) [2010-03-10 15:41] installed shared-desktop-ontologies (0.2-1) [2010-03-10 15:41] installed attica (0.1.2-1) [2010-03-10 15:42] upgraded kdelibs (4.3.1-1 -> 4.4.1-1) [2010-03-10 15:42] upgraded kdebase-runtime (4.3.1-1 -> 4.4.1-1) [2010-03-10 15:42] upgraded kdemultimedia-kioslave (4.3.1-1 -> 4.4.1-1) [2010-03-10 16:03] [2010-03-10 16:03] If you use the LILO bootloader, you should run 'lilo' after upgrading. [2010-03-10 16:03] [2010-03-10 16:03] upgraded lilo (22.8-3 -> 22.8-4) [2010-03-10 16:03] upgraded lirc-utils (0.8.5-1 -> 0.8.6-3) [2010-03-10 16:19] upgraded lsof (4.82-1 -> 4.83-1) [2010-03-10 16:19] upgraded man-pages (3.22-1 -> 3.23-1) [2010-03-10 16:20] upgraded m4 (1.4.13-1 -> 1.4.14-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded xcb-proto (1.5-1 -> 1.6-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded libxcb (1.4-1 -> 1.5-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded kbproto (1.0.3-2 -> 1.0.4-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded libx11 (1.2.2-1 -> 1.3.3-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded libxt (1.0.6-1 -> 1.0.7-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded libdrm (2.4.13-1 -> 2.4.18-2) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded mesa (7.5.1-2 -> 7.7-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded zenity (2.26.0-2 -> 2.28.0-1) [2010-03-10 16:59] upgraded metacity (2.26.0-2 -> 2.28.1-1) [2010-03-10 17:00] synchronizing package lists [2010-03-10 17:12] upgraded module-init-tools (3.10-1 -> 3.11.1-2) [2010-03-10 17:12] upgraded mpg123 (1.9.0-1 -> 1.10.1-1) [2010-03-10 17:12] upgraded mtools (4.0.10-5 -> 4.0.12-1) [2010-03-10 17:12] upgraded mxml (2.5-1 -> 2.6-1) [2010-03-10 17:12] warning: /etc/nanorc installed as /etc/nanorc.pacnew [2010-03-10 17:12] upgraded nano (2.0.9-2 -> 2.2.3-1) [2010-03-10 17:13] upgraded musicbrainz (2.1.5-2 -> 2.1.5-3) [2010-03-10 17:25] installed rrdtool (1.4.2-2) [2010-03-10 17:25] upgraded lm_sensors (3.1.1-1 -> 3.1.2-1) [2010-03-10 17:25] upgraded mpfr (2.4.1-1 -> 2.4.2-1) [2010-03-10 17:43] upgraded net-snmp (5.4.2.1-1 -> 5.5-1) [2010-03-10 17:43] installed libgssglue (0.1-2) [2010-03-10 17:43] upgraded libtirpc (0.2.0-1 -> 0.2.1-1) [2010-03-10 17:43] upgraded librpcsecgss (0.18-1 -> 0.19-2) [2010-03-10 17:43] upgraded nfs-utils (1.2.0-3 -> 1.2.2-1) [2010-03-10 17:43] upgraded normalize (0.7.7-3 -> 0.7.7-4) [2010-03-10 17:53] upgraded nspr (4.8-1 -> 4.8.3-1) [2010-03-10 17:53] upgraded nss (3.12.4-1 -> 3.12.4-2) [2010-03-10 17:53] upgraded ntp (4.2.4p7-3 -> 4.2.6-2) [2010-03-10 17:54] upgraded ntfs-3g (2009.4.4-1 -> 2010.1.16-1) [2010-03-10 18:07] upgraded udev (146-2 -> 151-3) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libcanberra (0.14-1 -> 0.23-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libwnck (2.26.2-1 -> 2.28.0-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded gnome-menus (2.26.2-1 -> 2.28.0.1-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libsoup (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] installed libsoup-gnome (2.28.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libgweather (2.26.2.1-1 -> 2.28.0-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libical (0.43-1 -> 0.44-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libbonobo (2.24.1-1 -> 2.24.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded evolution-data-server (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.3.1-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded gnome-desktop (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libgnome (2.26.0-2 -> 2.28.0-2) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libbonoboui (2.24.1-1 -> 2.24.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libgnomeui (2.24.1-1 -> 2.24.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded gnome-panel (2.26.3-1 -> 2.28.0-2) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded libxklavier (3.9-2 -> 4.0-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] installed devicekit-power (013-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] installed polkit-gnome (0.96-1) [2010-03-10 19:33] upgraded gnome-session (2.26.2-1 -> 2.28.0-1) [2010-03-10 19:34] upgraded gdm (2.20.10-2 -> 2.28.2-1) [2010-03-10 19:41] upgraded gdm (2.28.2-1 -> 2.28.2-1) [2010-03-10 20:34] upgraded dbus (1.2.20-1 -> 1.2.20-1) [2010-03-10 21:14] upgraded openssh (5.2p1-1 -> 5.3p1-4) [2010-03-10 21:24] upgraded gdm (2.28.2-1 -> 2.20.10-2) [2010-03-10 21:55] upgraded polkit-qt (0.9.2-2 -> 0.95.1-1) [2010-03-10 23:03] installed kdemod3-smb4k (0.9.9-1)

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Re: [arch-general] security
by Gordon Campbell 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Hi, Thanks for all your advice. So far I am enjoying my experience with Arch Linux since I changed my Distro over from Fedora about a month ago. Gordy

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[arch-general] Security
by Gordon Campbell 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Hi all, I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do I need to install a firewall? if so which one? Thanks in advance, Gordy

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[arch-general] Customising arch iso
by Damien Churchill 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

I was just wondering if there are there any up to date instructions available for customising the arch installer? I only need to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.32 in order to install (at least that is the first problem I have encountered). Thanks in advance, Damien

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[arch-general] Update register/log
by Manne Merak 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Is there a register or log that lists the history of package updates. I need to know what versions of encfs and openssl were updated and when. I am still unable to mount my 1.5 year old volume because of broken encfs and openssl update. (I did read all the bug reports associated with this, they recommend downgrading to openssl 0.9.8l, which I already tried) Manne

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[arch-general] Network UPS Tools - PKGBUILD changes - any timeframe?
by David C. Rankin 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Guys, Just installed NUT on my box and it is still being compiled w/o and cgi support. Looks like the decision has been made on where to put the cgi files: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16554 Any timeframe for when the changes might take place? Right now, every time there is a NUT upgrade it wipes out the cgi interface.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] what is the procedure when your find an out-of-date package in AUR?
by David C. Rankin 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Listmates, I need yum as a dependency to yum-createrepo, but the package is flagged as out-of-date in AUR. This is the first time I've run across an out of date package in something I needed to build so I don't have experience with the procedure after finding a package out of date. Do we: - let the maintainer know? - use anyway knowing not much has changed? - look for a way to find out why it is out of date?, if so how? Let me know how Arch wants this handled. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] .pyo files in twisted package
by Nezmer 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi, I don't know If this has been brought up before. The PKGBUILD includes "--optimize=1". So .pyo files are included in the package and they conflict with existing ones. Is there a reason to do this for twisted specifically? Or did I miss a change in python packaging policies?

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[arch-general] rsyncd pid file already exists
by Chris Allison 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi, rsync when run as a daemon from /etc/rc.d/rsyncd writes it's own pid file to /var/run/rsyncd.pid this conflicts with the start-stop script which also writes the pid file. I couldn't get rsync to start as a daemon after upgrading yesterday, without commenting out the line in the start-stop script: case "$1" in start) stat_busy "Starting rsyncd" [ ! -f /var/run/daemons/rsyncd ] && /usr/bin/rsync --daemon if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then stat_fail else # pgrep -of "/usr/bin/rsync --daemon" > /var/run/rsyncd.pid add_daemon rsyncd stat_done fi ;; Should I report this as a bug, I have searched bugs.archlinux.org for rsync with no results, and also in the forums. cheers Chris

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[arch-general] [Tool] rebuildorder.py: determines rebuild order of a list of packages.
by Mark Pustjens 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi List, Based on the rebuildorder script by Allen McRae (1) I've written a script which determines, given a list of packages, the order in which they should be built. A package x that depend on package y is always below y on the list, for any package y x depends on. This script can also include the makedeps of a package in the list. That is, if a package x has a makedepend on y, y is added to the list as well, before x and after any dependencies it may have. When you find a bug, let me know. Have fun with it. Greetings/Groetjes Mark Pustjens (1) http://allanmcrae.com/scripts/rebuildorder

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[arch-general] php / mysql connection after recent update
by Chris Allison 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Morning, Since updating yesterday, all my php scripts that connect to a mysql database (whether local or over the network) stopped being able to connect. I had to append the port number to the host definition in the mysql connect function call to get them to work again. I have been unable to find what has changed. Any ideas where the change may have happened. thanks Chris Allison -- Calling the unnamed register the unnamed register really does nothing but negate the name the unnamed register and render the unnamed register useless as a name, thus the unnamed register is named the unnamed register and is no longer the unnamed register as it is named the unnamed register, so where is the unnamed register to be found and what do we call it! Steve Oualline, The book of vim.

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[arch-general] Bad Idea?
by Carlos Mennens 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Is it a bad idea to install nVidia display drivers manually by downloading them from nvidia.com and installing it by hand...or should I use 'Pacman'? I read that I could mess up my system by manually installing packages and should always use Pacman. Thoughts / Suggestions? -Carlos -- Sent from my mobile device

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[arch-general] Kopete and Yahoo
by Nilesh Govindarajan 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi, Yahoo is not working with Kopete 1.0.0 Any ideas ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds
by Jeff Horelick 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hey all, I have a suggestion to possibly make rebuilds a bit less painful (or non-existant). I think this is a good idea because it seems like right now, even before there was a new rebuild (ffmpeg/x264) in testing, there's already another on the horizon (linjpeg/libpng, and it's a big one) and when this isn't the case, there's usually a rebuild, when it leaves testing, another rebuild comes in within days and so on. My suggestion would be to do what Debian does and when there's a library release with a new soname, bump the old package and "rename" it (or for new packages just do it from the start) and make the package name include the soname version (like libjpeg7, libpng12, libtorrent-rasterbar4 and so on) and when the soname is bumped upstream, just make libjpeg8 or libpng13 or libtorrent-rasterbar5. This does clutter the repos a bit, but it pretty much negates the need for rebuilds since (i believe) when the new GNOME for example is released, it'll automagically build against libjpeg8 and libpng13 instead of the old ones and eventually, almost no packages will be using the old ones. Once the package list for a large rebuild like the libpng/libjpeg one is down to 3 or 4 items after like 3 months, you can probably rebuild them and pull libjpeg7/libpng12 from the repos. This would likely require 2 changes to pacman to implement: 1. Pacman would have to know that libpng8 is the newer version of libpng7 and prompt users to install that (or do it as a upgrade keeping the old package). 2. Pacman would have to know something was removed from the repo and somehow notify the user and possibly give them a [Y/n] to remove it from their system. (I personally think this is a good idea to implement anyway). -JD

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[arch-general] imap-login: Fatal: Dovecot version mismatch - Is this a bug, or do I just override with ignore?
by David C. Rankin 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Guys, I'm finishing the mail server setup and I've run into a problem with dovecot. It looks like one part of dovecot doesn't match the other??? Here is what everything log says: Mar 9 22:48:37 nirvana dovecot: imap-login: Fatal: Dovecot version mismatch: Master is v1.2.10, login is v1.2.11 (if you don't care, set version_ignore=yes) Mar 9 22:48:37 nirvana dovecot: imap-login: Fatal: Dovecot version mismatch: Master is v1.2.10, login is v1.2.11 (if you don't care, set version_ignore=yes) Mar 9 22:48:52 nirvana dovecot: dovecot: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=18351 uid=0 code=kill) Mar 9 22:48:54 nirvana dovecot: Dovecot v1.2.11 starting up (core dumps disabled) I just have the standard repositories enabled (no testing or community-testing) for this box. Is there a package out of place that I need to report, or is it just intended that we use 'version_ignore=yes' ? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] RAID Configuration & Swap Space
by Carlos Mennens 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

I wanted to know if I configure my three identical disks as followed: - sda1 = /boot @ 4GB - sda2 = RAID @ 300GB - sdb1 = Swap @ 4GB - sdb2 = RAID @ 300GB - sdc1 = Swap @ 4GB - sdc2 = RAID @ 300GB Now when I am done configuring RAID, will Arch Linux show I have 8GB of Swap space total under a tool like 'htop' or something like this? Will the above configuration work? Or Should I change it?

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[arch-general] DR - Other dark theme aficionados - "just black" for FF 3.6, simple & clean
by David C. Rankin 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssh 5.4p1-2
by Byron Clark 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 05:16:10PM +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 17:08:45 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 16:36:15 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > This is really not my day and I already regret touching this package. :-) > > The problem with using readlink /proc/$pid/exe is that during an update of > > a running sshd that link will point nowhere. As a result the restart will > > fail. > > > > What do you think about using /proc/$pid/cmdline instead? > > Just found out that this wont work with ssh_args set in /ec/conf.d/sshd. My > last resort would be stripping that possible "(deleted)" fro mthe readlink > output. Here's another way to check if the pid file is valid: if pidof sshd | grep -q $(cat /var/run/sshd.pid); then echo "pid in /var/run/sshd.pid is valid" else echo "invalid pid" fi -- Byron Clark

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[arch-general] Howto handle poppler conflict with poppler-qt3
by David C. Rankin 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Guys, Latest updates to poppler require the removal of poppler-qt3 which fails due to kdemod3-kdegraphics-pdf (kpdf) dependencies. How do we handle this? Do we just remove poppler-qt3? Won't that break kpdf? Thought I would check before I started breaking things on my own :p The actual error is: :: poppler conflicts with poppler-qt3. Remove poppler-qt3? [Y/n] error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: kdemod3-kdegraphics-kpdf: requires poppler-qt3>=0.6 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] LVM/MDADM and GRUB2
by Tobias Powalowski 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hi, has anyone succeeded in having /boot on a lvm volume, or a mdadm raid device, which grub2 can directly boot from it? If yes please give me some advice how to do it, i want to add full grub2 support to archboot setup and the docs are quite messy. I haven't found a way to do such a setup. Many thanks for any input. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] A good twitter client
by Nilesh Govindarajan 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hi, Does anyone know a good twitter client for KDE apart from Firefox's echofon, Chromed Bird (I don't use GChrome), and KDE μblog ? Twitgin sucks if you have to many tweets from people you're following and that's my case. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] openssh 5.3p1-4: sshd script kills all sshd processes??
by Florian Pritz 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

On 10.03.2010 00:03, Thomas Bächler wrote: > What did whoever commited this smoke? It must have been very good: > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/?op=comp&compare[]=%2Fopenssh%2Ftr… > > Whenever you want to do /etc/rc.d/sshd restart remotely, it will kill > your ssh session. It is an important feature of openssh that all ssh > connections stay OPEN even if you kill the master server. With this > change, you will get kicked and goodbye remote server. > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18611 Aaron did the commit btw. -- Florian Pritz -- {flo,bluewind}(a)server-speed.net

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[arch-general] [PATCH (dbscripts)] Fix permissions of incoming packages.
by Chris Brannon 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

This patch changes the permissions of uploaded packages to 664, before they are moved from the staging directory. The commitpkg script included in devtools uses rsync to upload packages, and rsync preserves permissions. This causes problems whenever permissions are too restrictive on the uploader's machine. Signed-off-by: Chris Brannon <cmbrannon79(a)gmail.com> --- db-update | 5 +++++ 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/db-update b/db-update index 0973bf3..3f36332 100755 --- a/db-update +++ b/db-update @@ -87,6 +87,11 @@ for current_arch in ${ARCHES[@]} any; do done done +# Give permissions of 664 to all files under $stagedir. +# I.E., readable-writable by user and group; readable by others. +# This insures that packages enter the ftp area with correct permissions. +find "$stagedir" -print0 -type f |xargs -0 chmod 664 + # Process architecture-independent packages first. if [ -d "$stagedir" ]; then ANYPKGS="$(getpkgfiles $stagedir/*-any$PKGEXT 2>/dev/null)" -- 1.7.0.1

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[arch-general] svn packaging, abs => git ?
by Dieter Plaetinck 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Couldn't find any discussion about this, but what about we maintain our packages in git instead of svn? pros: 1) git is awesome 2) we don't need abs/rsync anymore. users can just read from git. 3) git network communication is more efficient then rsync (afaik) 4) users can check out older versions of packages easily, with limited storage overhead. 5) makes it easier to maintain forks of packages (have your own git repository with some changes, then merge in upstream changes to keep them up to date. upstream == arch linux here) cons: 1) using git for abs will use more disk space because you need the checkout + the repo (a 60% or increase or so? my abs tree is now 57MB, so even if this becomes 100MB that's still ok imho) 2) svn->git migration is not trivial, since tools, the website, .. will need to be adapted. Dieter

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] wrong permission to packages
by Chris Brannon 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Dan McGee wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: *SNIP* >> ok. so he has umask 077 and because we are using rsync the permission is >> persistent. maybe we should fix dbscripts and install the package with the >> right permission. > > Patches welcome. :) > > -Dan Hi, I'm the offender in this case. The file had permissions of 0600. When I used communitypkg to upload it, rsync preserved those permissions. My next message will have a patch for dbscripts. Hopefully, my proposed fix isn't too naive. -- Chris

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[arch-general] New xorg-server package braks fluxbox?
by Javier Vasquez 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Hi, Today's pacman -Syu installed new xorg-server package: % pacman -Qs xorg-server local/xorg-server 1.7.5.901-1 (xorg) X.Org X servers I have xorg.conf configured without hal support: Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" EndSection I also have fluxbox installed: % pacman -Qs fluxbox local/fluxbox 1.1.1-1 A lightweight and highly-configurable window manager And with the new xorg-server the behavior I'm seing is that if I try to maximize/minimize a window, fluxbox freezes, but if I do top, I don't see any process eating resources, neither memory, neither cpu... Another weird behavior, is that fluxbox keys are dead. I configured for example: # alt-left / alt-right Mod1 Right :NextWorkspace Mod1 Left :PrevWorkspace And they don't work. Well, if I try them like between the 1st 2 seconds, they actually work, after 2 seconds, they don't do a thing... I don't think this is a video card issue, since I have the same issue with a nvidia video card, and an ati video card: Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "Quadro FX 570M" ... Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]" Is this a bug? I don't want to use hal, but perhaps it's inevitable now as opposed as before, when we could still not depend upon it... So I'm not sure if the only way to make Xorg work now is through hal, or if this is just a temporal bug to be fixed... Please let me know. Thanks, -- Javier.

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[arch-general] encfs boost and openssl
by Manne Merak 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

I have problems with the latest update and EncFS. Did check out the bug reports at Arch and EncFS and after downgrading Boost to 1.41 I now do not get the config file reading error anymore. Unfortunately trying to decode my data results in "Error decoding volume key, password incorrect", my password is definitely correct. I downgraded OpenSSL to 0.9.8k-3, still no luck. Does anyone have the correct combination of EncFS, Boost, OpenSSL and whatnotelse to get my data back? Manne

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Moving to pkg.tar.xz officially?
by Ng Oon-Ee 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > some of us already commit xz compressed packages, others don't. We didn't > really decide on this yet. > > So, is there a reason not to recommond every TU and Dev to change PKGEXT to > .pkg.tar.xz? > > We might also want to write a little announcement to inform users about this > change. While most of them wont be affected, some would have to adjust their > custom scripts. And for those who use netinstall on a 2009.02 or older iso > would have to run pacman -Syu once to get a version of libarchive which is > able to deal with xz. > > If wanted I also could add a check to devtools which issues a warning if xz is > not used. > > Greetings, > > Pierre > > -- > > Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre > What about devs/tus who also maintain AUR packages? As I recall AUR doesn't accept .tar.xz yet?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] i686 pkg built in chroot on x86_64 doesn't work
by Ray Kohler 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Paul Mattal <paul(a)mattal.com> wrote: > > So this is a weird one, but I think I just made some headway. > > Apparently, this seems to be related to the ACTUAL CPU of the box I build > on. When building on an i686 Arch box running on an AMD 64 CPU, the build > generates the broken binaries! When I build on an Intel CPU, it works fine. > > So it would appear this is at least in part Tomcat's build process's fault > for not building the right thing based on the uname -m but rather looking > directly at the processor. > > Yuck. Perhaps I will at least add a note to the PKGBUILD suggesting this > issue, so that the next poor person who decides to update tomcat doesn't > trip over this same thing. > > Thanks, all, for working this through with me. Why not just stop building tomcat from source? What advantage does it give over just using the upstream binary distro?

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Re: [arch-general] Syncing the mirrors
by keenerd 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:13:38 -0600, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM, keenerd <keenerd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > There does not seem to be a documented "standard rsync" command for > > the mirrors to use, so I'm making all sorts of wild assumptions about > > what a mirror's rsync is doing. > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Local_Mirror#The_synchronization_script The real mirrors use that too? The whole "local mirror" title kind of threw me. I was looking at http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:NewMirrors . My bad. -Kyle

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[arch-general] attempting to build firefox-qt
by Shridhar Daithankar 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Subject: attempting to build firefox-qt Date: Tuesday 09 March 2010, 15:40:55 From: Shridhar Daithankar <ghodechhap(a)ghodechhap.net> To: arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org Hello, I am interested in building firefox with Qt. Following directions from https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Pjohnsen/MozillaQtBuild, I updated the pkgbuild /mozconfig and created the package. Problem is the resulting firefox package does not link against qt at all. Even a running firefox process does not have any Qt dependencies. There are also xul related errors in the makepkg log. The makepkg log is available at http://ghodechhap.net/firefox-qt.makepkg.log. Any help to make it work is greatly appreciated. -- Regards Shridhar

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] i686 pkg built in chroot on x86_64 doesn't work
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

On 03/09/2010 02:27 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/03/10 15:23, Paul Mattal wrote: >> So this is a weird one, but I think I just made some headway. >> >> Apparently, this seems to be related to the ACTUAL CPU of the box I >> build on. When building on an i686 Arch box running on an AMD 64 CPU, >> the build generates the broken binaries! When I build on an Intel CPU, >> it works fine. >> >> So it would appear this is at least in part Tomcat's build process's >> fault for not building the right thing based on the uname -m but rather >> looking directly at the processor. >> >> Yuck. Perhaps I will at least add a note to the PKGBUILD suggesting this >> issue, so that the next poor person who decides to update tomcat doesn't >> trip over this same thing. > > Seriously... WTF! That is up there with some of the strangest build > issues I have ever seen. > > Allan > jsvc uses "arch" command. arch is marked as deprecated tool replaced by uname. Anyway "arch" will return correct values when using linux32 wrapper. (And I am on AMD64). what return "linux32 arch" on your weird chroot? -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] i686 pkg built in chroot on x86_64 doesn't work
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

On 03/09/2010 01:32 AM, Paul Mattal wrote: > > > However, adding it doesn't solve the tomcat building problem; same > result. This must be some other issue. > > - P > I tested building from trunk tomcat on x86_64, inside i686 chroot (chroot made with a custom script not from devtools). Builds fine, just before entering, or executing linux32 makepkg. [djgera@exequiel trunk]$ strings pkg/opt/tomcat/bin/jsvc | grep i386 $JAVA_HOME/lib/i386/jvm.cfg $JAVA_HOME/lib/i386/libjvm.so $JAVA_HOME/bin/i386/libjvm.so ... [djgera@exequiel trunk]$ strings pkg/opt/tomcat/bin/jsvc | grep amd64 [djgera@exequiel trunk]$ -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] pacman search help needed: howto find package that provides html2ps?
by David C. Rankin 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Guys, I have made friends with pacman in most areas, but one are I still don't know is " How to I find the uninstalled package that will provide xxx?" pacman -Ss must just search package names and not the contents. I need to find html2ps for hylafax. Can pacman do this, or do I search abs/aur for this type of request? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Syncing the mirrors
by keenerd 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

A lot of people have been getting bit by mirrors being out of sync. Fundamentally, this comes down to a mirror's database tarball being ahead or behind of the packages which actually exist on the mirror. Rsync is made for bulk updating, but it is not atomic, and bad things happen if you interact with a mirror while the rsync is running. Generally, you get package not found errors. This can be fixed, but it is a pain to deploy, because the mirrors require an update. Here's the what mirrors (probably) should be doing: wget ...../core.db.tar.gz -O core.db.tar.gz.new # and the others rsync --delete-after --exclude="*.db.tar.gz" rsync://...... mv core.db.tar.gz.new core.db.tar.gz # and the others The key differences here: put off deleting files as long as possible (rsync's default is to delete before transferring new files, causing all sorts of trouble), and do not release the new DB until all the new files have finished transferring. This is hardly the same type of guaranteed transaction you get with a ACID database, but it should eliminate most all of the current errors. There does not seem to be a documented "standard rsync" command for the mirrors to use, so I'm making all sorts of wild assumptions about what a mirror's rsync is doing. -Kyle

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[arch-general] Building netboot images
by Piyush P Kurur 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

Hi, I would like to create a (custom) netboot install image of archlinux to facilitate installation within our department. I have few queries regarding the corresponding mkinitcpio.conf. 1. How do I use custom hooks together with standard hooks *without* installing them in /lib/initcpio/install. Or in other words can I configure mkinitcpio to look for hooks in other locations besides the standard locations. There are two options that I can think of both of which looks ugly to me. * install custom hooks in the standard location /lib/initcpio/install. I would don't like this because I don't want to mess up the standard directory for testing these hooks. * copy all the hooks in the standard location to a new location. Install the custom hooks there as well and set the mkinitcpio to look at this new location. There does not seem to be an option for this, I might be stupid not to spot it, but appropriate fakeroot + chroot can make this work 2. I would like to have the minimal set of packages on the netboot image to reduce size. The actual installation will be from the local mirror of course but some packages are needed to start the process. What is the suggested package set ? Is the whole of base okey or is it an overkill? 3. How does one provide standard packages on the rootdir. I would assume the initial ramdisk should act as the actual root during the entire installation process (I don't want the NFS mounting mess). The algorithm seems like (1) install the appropriate packages via pacman --root /foo (2) get the entire subtree on to the initial ramdisk. For step 2, I would need to set BINARIES and FILES of mkinitcpio.conf appropriately. I would rather enjoy Vogon poetry. Is there a better way? Regards, ppk

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[arch-general] Something is seriously wrong with FlashPlugin; makes chrome & firefox crash like crazy
by Gaurish Sharma 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

Hi, Flashplugin keep crashing which makes Firefox unstable. with chrome, only the plugin crashes. But this way I am not able to experiance any flash based website. the thing that annoy me is that flash does work fine my lappy with OpenSuse. Anyone experiencing similar issues? Logs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ gaurish ~ > gdb firefox GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0.1 Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu". For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>... Reading symbols from /usr/bin/firefox...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/firefox [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0x7fffe8df2710 (LWP 25663)] [New Thread 0x7fffe83e8710 (LWP 25664)] [New Thread 0x7fffe7be7710 (LWP 25665)] [New Thread 0x7fffe6aff710 (LWP 25669)] [New Thread 0x7fffe33f4710 (LWP 25670)] [New Thread 0x7fffe2bf3710 (LWP 25671)] [Thread 0x7fffe2bf3710 (LWP 25671) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffe2bf3710 (LWP 25672)] [New Thread 0x7fffe164a710 (LWP 25673)] [New Thread 0x7fffe0e49710 (LWP 25676)] [New Thread 0x7fffe0442710 (LWP 25677)] [Thread 0x7fffe0442710 (LWP 25677) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffe0442710 (LWP 25678)] [Thread 0x7fffe0442710 (LWP 25678) exited] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] [New Thread 0x7fffe0442710 (LWP 25679)] [New Thread 0x7fffd64ff710 (LWP 25680)] [New Thread 0x7fffd59ff710 (LWP 25684)] [Thread 0x7fffd59ff710 (LWP 25684) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffd59ff710 (LWP 25688)] [New Thread 0x7fffd20ff710 (LWP 25689)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007fffda43ba42 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so (gdb) bt #0 0x00007fffda43ba42 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #1 0x00007fffda43bb58 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #2 0x00007fffda43c15a in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #3 0x00007fffda43fa0e in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #4 0x00007fffda5755c1 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #5 0x00007fffda491e4a in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #6 0x00007fffda53d93e in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #7 0x00007fffda53dec8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #8 0x00007fffda5df95c in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #9 0x00007fffda268239 in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so #10 0x00007ffff5b6974e in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #11 0x00007ffff5b6f5f0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #12 0x00007ffff5506779 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #13 0x00007ffff5506779 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #14 0x00007ffff554d345 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #15 0x00007ffff54f25c5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #16 0x00007ffff54f26ab in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #17 0x00007ffff5cc4a28 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #18 0x00007ffff5cd786b in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #19 0x00007ffff5cac385 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #20 0x00007ffff5c31f11 in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #21 0x00007ffff5b09e5e in ?? () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #22 0x00007ffff547cc22 in XRE_main () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2/libxul.so #23 0x0000000000402366 in ?? () #24 0x00007ffff7376b6d in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 #25 0x0000000000401b19 in ?? () #26 0x00007fffffffe5b8 in ?? () #27 0x000000000000001c in ?? () #28 0x0000000000000001 in ?? () #29 0x00007fffffffe8e2 in ?? () #30 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () (gdb) kill Kill the program being debugged? (y or n) y (gdb) quit gaurish ~ > google-chrome [26339:26339:85939977573:ERROR:/usr/local/google/b/slave/chrome-official- linux-64/build/src/chrome/browser/tab_contents/tab_contents.cc(1762)] Not implemented reached in virtual void TabContents::OnCrashedPlugin(const FilePath&) convert plugin path to plugin name [26339:26339:85939978034:ERROR:/usr/local/google/b/slave/chrome-official- linux-64/build/src/chrome/browser/tab_contents/tab_contents.cc(1762)] Not implemented reached in virtual void TabContents::OnCrashedPlugin(const FilePath&) convert plugin path to plugin name [26339:26339:85939978401:ERROR:/usr/local/google/b/slave/chrome-official- linux-64/build/src/chrome/browser/tab_contents/tab_contents.cc(1762)] Not implemented reached in virtual void TabContents::OnCrashedPlugin(const FilePath&) convert plugin path to plugin name [1] Flashplugin Version : 10.0.45.2-1 -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma www.gaurishsharma.com

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[arch-general] Amavisd-new Only in AUR?
by Carlos Mennens 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

I know I can download packages from AUR but I really could not believe that 'amavisd-new' is not in 'Community'. I would think this tool for email / virus scanning would be popular enough to be voted into 'Community' repo. Does anyone have any idea what is holding this software back from getting votes / moved into the 'Community? Is it considered buggy or just not widely used enough in the Arch community? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=573 Thanks for any input.

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[arch-general] KDE 4.4 + pnm2ppa + CUPS
by Lars Tennstedt 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

Hello and a happy new year, I have noticed print problems on my pc sine the release of KDE 4.0.0. I guessed that I had to wait that the KDE 4 or Qt 4 print backend got better. But at the moment I use KDE 4.3.4 on Arch Linux with pnm2ppa from AUR and CUPS. My box is up-to-date. I can print with Firefox, GIMP, OpenOffice and GNOME applications but I cannot still with KDE 4 or Qt 4 applications. I did not find anything about that issue. Can someone help me? Bye Lars

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[arch-general] Changed GNUstep directory in new windowmaker package
by Daniel Isenmann 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

Hi, today I have released a new release of the windowmaker package. The important change is the GNUstep directory. I have changed this to /usr/lib/GNUstep. It was requested as a bug report (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15301) and it’s now equal to Debian’s GNUstep directory location. That means, you have to change the directory for the WPrefs.App which has now the new location. All other things should be run without problems. If you have older GNUstep applications, you have to recompile them with the new location if they way located in the old GNUstep directory. -Daniel

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[arch-general] Messages from fcron
by Magnus Therning 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

I keep on getting messages from fcron along what can be found below. Does anyone know where I should look to fix this? /M -------- Original Message -------- Subject: fcron <systab@tatooine> /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.daily Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:58:09 +0000 From: <magnus.therning(a)ntlworld.com> To: magnus.therning(a)ntlworld.com error: syslog-ng:1 duplicate log entry for /var/log/crond.log error: found error in /var/log/messages.log /var/log/auth.log /var/log/mail.log /var/log/kernel.log /var/log/errors.log /var/log/daemon.log /var/log/user.log /var/log/iptables.log /var/log/everything.log /var/log/syslog.log /var/log/acpid.log /var/log/crond.log /var/log/lpr.log /var/log/uucp.log /var/log/news.log /var/log/ppp.log /var/log/debug.log , skipping

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