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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev-150-3
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

On 01/25/2010 03:35 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Sonntag 24 Januar 2010 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: > >> Am Sonntag 24 Januar 2010 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> udev 150 >>> ======== >>> Bugfixes. >>> >>> Kernels with SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y are not supported since a while. Many >>> users depend on the current sysfs layout and the information not >>> available in the deprecated layout. All remaining support for the >>> deprecated sysfs layout is removed now. >>> > >> fixed consolekit file location. >> >> > cleaned up arch rules file #17993 > > greetings > tpowa > All looks OK with udev-150-3 (and running with my custom kernel 2.6.32.6), devices acl are now working as expected with consolekit. My unofficial sign-off for i686 and x86_64. -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] problem with video driver ?
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Hello all, Today I installed Arch on my desktop which previously had Fedora. All works well except ssh -X zita2 emacs where zita2 is my laptop. It works, but it is ex tre me ly slow, I can count the lines being displayed when scrolling a page. This used to work perfectly before. Other apps doing quite intensive X work don't seem to be affected. OTOH, the emacs running on the laptop is of course the same as before. Video driver is 'nv', but it doesn't show up in lsmod. Some others do: 'drm' and 'ttm' which I haven't seen before. As far as I was able to find out, 'drm' is related to 3D-acceleration. I don't need nor want this, and I'm suspecting it could be related to the problem I'm seeing. Any hints/help will be appreciated ! Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] linux-api-headers-2.6.32.5-1
by Alexander Duscheleit 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:37:17 -0600 Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> > wrote: > > On 25/01/10 17:41, Jan de Groot wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 12:13 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > >>> > >>> linux-api-headers-2.6.32.5-1 > >>> - convert to arch=any (built on x86_64, tested on i686) > [...] > > Good point. I had thought about this and decided that they we > > architecture independent on the architectures we support so went > > with arch=any. Should I revert that? > > A comment in the PKGBUILD would probably be nice even if you don't > revert it alluding to the above. That way anyone trying to do some abs > cross-compile could at least have something to go off of. However, > with that logic, making it not arch-independent would help them even > more... > > -Dan +1 for not arch-independent Community projects for different architectures are coming up all the time. Also, ARM is gaining a stronghold on netbooks, a perfect target for Arch. ARM might very well become a new official architecture in a few years, if it really takes of (the way I hope :)). Why introduce (subtle) stumbling blocks to save less than 1M on mirrors? Jinks

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Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
by Joerg.Schilling＠fokus.fraunhofer.de 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Allan McRae wrote: >Not anything recent: http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/ . Debian thinks >about these things a lot more than we do so I usually would defer to >them. But given they essentially created the cdrkit fork, I'm not sure >they are ever going to reassess the situation. The article you mention contains a lot of dissinformation and I am not conviced that Debian did even discuss their actions with a lawyer. I am happy to answer questions based on informations I have from various lawyers from Germany and the USA, but please let us ignore the claims from LWN and Debian. They are not helpful. The Sun legal department did check cdrtools in Autumn 2008 and the legal review did take three months. The result from this check is that there is absolutely no legal problem with the original cdrtools software. Note that Sun is the biggest OSS distributor and thus is a potential target for people who like to sue companies for distributing illegal software. Sun thus has a big interest to avoid anything that might cause legal troubles. Sun for this reason decided to distribute the original cdrtools and not to distribute the fork from Debian. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js(a)cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling(a)fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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[arch-general] Boot Device Didn't Show Up
by Carlos Williams 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Every time I try and install Arch Linux 2009.08 Netinst .ISO disk on my newly built PC hardware, I get the following error: Waiting for boot device... Error: Boot device didn't show up after 30 seconds... Falling back to interactive prompt. You can try and fix the problem manually, log out when you're finished. ramfs$ The same ISO works perfect on my laptop and other PC's but on my personal $1,000 PC, it doesn't. I can't figure this out. I also tried the 2009.08 Core disk and I get the same thing as with the 'Netinst' disk. I don't know if it's because I have a S-ATA DVD-ROM drive on this machine. I can boot from disk and see the Arch install options...even play "Space Invaders". But when I select the install Arch Linux options, it boots into a 'Live' environment and then hangs on the error above. Someone please help...

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[arch-general] chsh, linux32 and $PATH
by Allan McRae 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

I am trying to seamlessly run an x86_64 kernel on my i686 machine. I have enough aliases that most things work right (prefixing with linux32), but bash can not handle setting e.g. "./configure" as an alias and there is always something I have missed. So, I came up with a cunning plan... Create a script /bin/bash32 which just runs "linux32 /bin/bash", then add /bin/bash32 to /etc/shells and run "chsh -s /bin/bash32". It works in a way... when I run uname, it tells me I am using the i686 kernel. Success! Now the bad part... my $PATH gets reduced to: /home/allan/bin:/bin:/usr/bin The /home/allan/bin part tells me that my ~/.bashrc is being sourced, as does my prompt and all my aliases. So something else is being missed. The /bin:/usr/bin is the minimum path defined in /etc/login.defs. All the rest is in /etc/profile and the various /etc/profile.d scripts. Why are they not being sourced... Or are they being sourced and then I open up a new shell with my script which gets rid of them? Allan

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[arch-general] Why is makepkg not using rc.d/functions?
by Andres Perera 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Is it strictly because it shouldn't depend on initscripts, or is there another reason?

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[arch-general] [signoff] pcmciautils-016-1
by Tobias Powalowski 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

Hi bump to latest version, please signoff. Changes to initcpio pcmcia hook were needed and added in git tree, on next mkinitcpio bump they will be included. - udev rules and helper programs are now installed to /lib/udev/ greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] mkinitcpio 0.6 alpha - testing and help needed
by Thomas Bächler 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

Quoted from http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17298 (which is also to be used for feedback, besides the threads on these mailing lists): So, now something can be tested. I recommend using it in conjunction with testing/udev only: [kill-klibc] Server = http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kill-klibc/i686/ or [kill-klibc] Server = http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kill-klibc/x86_64/ The standard hooks work, so do keymap, lvm2, encrypt. What does NOT work is raid/mdadm/dmraid and root on NFS. I would appreciate any input and patches w.r.t. those, as well as any testing. The v86d package also needs to be fixed, but that is trivial. device-mapper, lvm2 and cryptsetup have a weird "1.local" pkgrel so they won't collide with the ones from the repo, sorry if that bothers anyone. If you upgrade to this repositories, your existing mkinitcpio will be replaced and all klibc packages will be gone too. So, if you try it, please save your existing initramfs to a different filename as a fallback, and do not perform kernel upgrades until you either confirmed that it works, or downgraded to the klibc-based mkinitcpio.

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[arch-general] initramfs: execute own script
by AlannY 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

Hi there. I'm newbie in Archlinux's boot process. I need to run my own script in early userspace (initramfs). It must be after mounting root file system, but before switch root. I've opened default initramfs (kernel26.img) and reviewed it's content. So, Archlinux uses some kind of tool called 'kinit'. And it seems, that this tool mounts root and then switch. How to run my own script in kinit? Where can be found documentation of kinit? Thanks for patience. -- )\._.,--....,'``. /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

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[arch-general] Two tiny patches for archweb_dev's ToDo lists
by Evangelos Foutras 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

I tested both patches locally and they appear to work. They are really tiny and straightforward so they should be safe to apply to the live dev site with little/no further testing. (I'm not sure who is maintaining the web interface nowadays, so I'm sending the patches to this ML.)

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[arch-general] Confusion About /etc/hosts File
by Carlos Williams 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

I have never understood Arch's approach to properly setting a FQDN on a server. According to the Wiki...and I will quote: "Add your hostname, coinciding with the one specified in /etc/rc.conf, as an alias, so that it looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost yourhostname If you use a static IP, add another line using the syntax: <static-IP> <hostname.domainname.org> <hostname> e.g.: 192.168.1.100 yourhostname.domain.org yourhostname" Now this does not work for me and maybe I am not understanding this but my server hostname is "mail" and it will be managing a domain called "iamghost.com" so I need my output of the command 'hostname -f' to result in 'mail.iamghost.com' and when I follow the guide, that is not what I get. Obviously my server has a static IP so I followed the Wiki as shown below: #<ip-address> <hostname.domain.org> <hostname> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mail 10.1.1.200 mail.iamghost.com mail The above gives me the correct output when I run the 'hostname' command = 'mail' but when I run the 'hostname -f' command, I get localhost.localdomain. This will cause severe failures in MySQL and Postfix. Not to mention all my certificates I self sign / generate will not have the proper info. Can someone please explain to me why this does not work for me? Normally in distributions like CentOS, Debian, Slackware, etc etc etc...I am able to just enter a hostname and domain name for the system. Thanks!

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.5-1
by Tobias Powalowski 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

Hi guys, bump to latest bugfix version. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Why Is My RAID Installing Failing?
by Carlos Williams 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

OK - I am once again attempting to use Arch install for 2010 on my system which has two identical hard drives and I simply want to mirror both drives in a RAID1 array. I have read the Wiki so much at this point it has become memorized. I am NOT using LVM or anything, just a Arch user who wants RAID1, very simple, right? Well wait, it gets easier. I am not even attempting to add my MBR /dev/sda1 (/boot) to the RAID1 array. Crazy simple, huh? You might even ask well why am I even asking for help then...well because I hate the Arch installer and not because its CLI only. No, I love the simplicity of the installer and not being graphical but the RAID configuration is a complete mess. I am booting from a fresh 2009.08 Netinstall ISO disk. I select the 1st option and login as root (requires no password). Before I just junp into the installer (/arch/setup), I need to configure a few things: 1 - I use 'cfdisk' to configure /dev/sda & /dev/sdb. - /dev/sda1 = 4096 MB (bootable) 83 - /dev/sda2 = The rest of the disk (selecting 'fd' type) - /dev/sdb1 = 4096 MB (SWAP) 82 - /dev/sdb2 = The rest of the disk (selecting 'fd' type) 2. I need to load my RAID1 modules using the following command: #modprobe raid1 3. Now I need to create my RAID1 mirror using the following command: #mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 4. Check to make sure the RAID is rebuilding and both devices show [UU] #cat /proc/mdstat So now everything is working fine and going as it should be via the Wiki. Now the Wiki in my opinion is way too bloated and tries to do too much so I am cutting and pasting what I feel applies to me. Which is why I am showing you everything I am doing here in this email to see why I am failing. Now I need to update the /etc/mdadm.conf file with my new RAID1 I created with the following command: #mdadm -D --scan >> /etc/mdadm.conf And I also verify that my info was correctly populated into the /etc/mdadm.conf file using the following command: #cat /etc/mdadm.com So now I am ready to run the /arch/setup command from the CLI to begine configuring the install / my new system. 1 - Select Source = I configure my install method and all my network variables 2 - Set Clock = I configure my Time Zone and stuff 3 - Prepare Hard Drive(s) = Here I can skip to section sub menu 3 since I already did most of this above. I simply now just select mount points for my existing partitions: sda1 = /boot (ext3) sdb2 = swap (swap) md0 = / (ext4) 4 - Select Packages = I select the base packages and what I feel is required for my setup. 5 - Install packages = I let the system download and install the packages from my mirror. 6 - Configure System = This is where I feel my confusion comes into play. Perhaps I am missing something: */etc/rc/conf = I simply add the changes below: - In 'Hardware' section add "MODULES=(md_mod raid) - HOSTNAME="mypc" - "sshd" added to the "DAEMONS" line */etc/mkinitcpio.conf - add 'mdadm' on the 'HOOKS' line after "sata" & before "filesystems" as noted in the Wiki. */etc/resolv.conf - Check to make sure DNS looks good...it does. */etc/hosts - Add my FQDN here as follows: 127.0.0.1 mypc.mydomain.tld mypc *Root-Password - Create a secure root password. Now that is it. I select 'Done' and let it build 'initcpio' images. 7 - Install Bootloader = Here I select "Grub" and then review the default menu.lst it produces. I then select /dev/sda to install Grub on. "Grub was successfully installed" Now I am done and back at the bash shell logged in as root. I then run the following command: #cp -a /etc/mdadm.conf /mnt/etc/mdadm.conf to make sure when the system boots, it is aware of my RAID1 mirror. Now I reboot because I assume I am done. Here is my error: ::Running Hook [mdadm] Waiting 10 seconds for device /dev/md0 Root device '/dev/md0' doesn't exist, attempting to create it ERROR: Failed to parse block device for ids for /dev/md0 ERROR: Unable to detect or create root device /dev/md0 You are being dropped into a recovery shell Type reboot to reboot Type exit to try and continue booting If the device /dev/md0 gets created while you are here, try adding 'rootdelay=10 or higher to the kernel command line. ramfs$ _

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[arch-general] nitrogen libpng rebuild information
by pyther 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

As nitrogen is currently orphaned I am sending this message here in hopes to avoid duplicate efforts. Two issues: -Nitrogen won't build against libpng 14 -Nitrogen crashes with "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gdk::PixbufError'" According to the developer: "It had a stray include of a libpng file that it hasnt needed in years that just sorta stayed there and recent libpng updates made that line problematic." He states that debian has a patch for this. However, he also states: "That's been long fixed in git. You can clone master if you want and grab it, or wait a few days, 1.5 has been in rc for a few weeks and no complaints about it so far so i'll release it soon." He stated it can be as soon as today. The crashes occur with both nitrogen 1.4.2 (from the extra repo) and git (soon to by 1.5). As I am writing this message, I am currently working with the developer to resolve this issue. He has given me a patch, which essential catches the error and prints some debug info to stderr. With this patch nitrogen git runs flawlessly. So I believe it is going to be a simple fix that should be hopefully be applied to git in the next few hours. With this said, I suggest that we wait for nitrogen 1.5 to be released. Even if we were to patch 1.4.2 we would still have the issue of the gdk::PixbufError crashes. ~pyther

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[arch-general] tor new version
by nblock 22 Jan '10

22 Jan '10

Hi, The torproject released a new version of tor that fix some security problems. I updated the PKGBUILD, here is the patch: Index: PKGBUILD =================================================================== --- PKGBUILD (Revision 64847) +++ PKGBUILD (Arbeitskopie) @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ # Contributor: simo <simo(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=tor -pkgver=0.2.1.21 +pkgver=0.2.1.22 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Anonymizing overlay network" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ source=(http://www.torproject.org/dist/tor-${pkgver}.tar.gz 'tor.conf' 'tor.rc') -md5sums=('54f7a801d824cd9c13ce672d483926d6' +md5sums=('583501a989ed0c39e209b604c3671ecd' '56c75d4e8a66f34167d31e38c43793dd' '23348b8e3b38c6ed2a45b4be42a7de8e') full PKGBUILD: # $Id: PKGBUILD 62137 2010-01-03 11:07:08Z andrea $ # Maintainer: # Contributor: simo <simo(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=tor pkgver=0.2.1.22 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Anonymizing overlay network" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="http://www.torproject.org/" license=('BSD') depends=('openssl' 'libevent' 'tsocks' 'bash') backup=('etc/tor/torrc' 'etc/tor/torrc-dist' 'etc/tor/tor-tsocks.conf') install=tor.install source=(http://www.torproject.org/dist/tor-${pkgver}.tar.gz 'tor.conf' 'tor.rc') md5sums=('583501a989ed0c39e209b604c3671ecd' '56c75d4e8a66f34167d31e38c43793dd' '23348b8e3b38c6ed2a45b4be42a7de8e') build() { cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver} ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --sysconfdir=/etc \ --localstatedir=/var || return 1 make || return 1 make DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install || return 1 install -d ${pkgdir}/var/lib/tor || return 1 mv "$pkgdir/etc/tor/torrc.sample" "$pkgdir/etc/tor/torrc-dist" || return 1 install -D -m644 "$srcdir/tor.conf" "$pkgdir/etc/tor/torrc" || return 1 install -D -m755 "$srcdir/tor.rc" "$pkgdir/etc/rc.d/tor" || return 1 install -Dm644 LICENSE "$pkgdir/usr/share/licenses/tor/LICENSE" || return 1 } greetings, -- nblock

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[arch-general] new tor version
by Florian Preinstorfer 22 Jan '10

22 Jan '10

Hi, The torproject released a new version of tor that fix some security problems. I updated the PKGBUILD, here is the patch: Index: PKGBUILD =================================================================== --- PKGBUILD (Revision 64847) +++ PKGBUILD (Arbeitskopie) @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ # Contributor: simo <simo(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=tor -pkgver=0.2.1.21 +pkgver=0.2.1.22 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Anonymizing overlay network" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ source=(http://www.torproject.org/dist/tor-${pkgver}.tar.gz 'tor.conf' 'tor.rc') -md5sums=('54f7a801d824cd9c13ce672d483926d6' +md5sums=('583501a989ed0c39e209b604c3671ecd' '56c75d4e8a66f34167d31e38c43793dd' '23348b8e3b38c6ed2a45b4be42a7de8e') full PKGBUILD: # $Id: PKGBUILD 62137 2010-01-03 11:07:08Z andrea $ # Maintainer: # Contributor: simo <simo(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=tor pkgver=0.2.1.22 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Anonymizing overlay network" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="http://www.torproject.org/" license=('BSD') depends=('openssl' 'libevent' 'tsocks' 'bash') backup=('etc/tor/torrc' 'etc/tor/torrc-dist' 'etc/tor/tor-tsocks.conf') install=tor.install source=(http://www.torproject.org/dist/tor-${pkgver}.tar.gz 'tor.conf' 'tor.rc') md5sums=('583501a989ed0c39e209b604c3671ecd' '56c75d4e8a66f34167d31e38c43793dd' '23348b8e3b38c6ed2a45b4be42a7de8e') build() { cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver} ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --sysconfdir=/etc \ --localstatedir=/var || return 1 make || return 1 make DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install || return 1 install -d ${pkgdir}/var/lib/tor || return 1 mv "$pkgdir/etc/tor/torrc.sample" "$pkgdir/etc/tor/torrc-dist" || return 1 install -D -m644 "$srcdir/tor.conf" "$pkgdir/etc/tor/torrc" || return 1 install -D -m755 "$srcdir/tor.rc" "$pkgdir/etc/rc.d/tor" || return 1 install -Dm644 LICENSE "$pkgdir/usr/share/licenses/tor/LICENSE" || return 1 } greetings, -- nblock

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1
by Tobias Powalowski 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

Hi guys, bump to latest bugfix version. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Can you rebuild an nv dmraid array in linux - or is it just gparted and copy partitions?
by David C. Rankin 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

Listmates I had a failing drive in my arch server so I installed a new one. The bios raid 'nvidia dmraid' provides the feature to 'Rebuild' the array and allows for adding the new disk to the array. After that configuration you are prompted to "Boot to an OS that supports rebuilding.." (or something very close to that). I image that there is some windows utility that does the rebuild on boot. Something probably on one of the cd's that came with the motherboard. The motherboard is an MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum (MS-7374) and has the nvidia dmraid 0/1/5/ chipset. In the past I have always just used gparted to copy partitions from good drive -> new drive and created a new array. Based on the output of creating the array in the bios, I'm curious if I can just rebuild does it work in linux? how? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Arch Linux Press Review wiki page updated
by Angel Velásquez 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

People, I've updated the wiki page [1] of the press review with the 2010 section and the interview to some people of the dev team of Arch. If you have blogs, sites, etc where Arch was mentioned and it's not showing on that list, you can edit the wiki, and contribute with the wiki!. I've to confess that I love to read those reviews :). Cheers! and nice interview btw [1] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Press_Review -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com

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[arch-general] Last networkmanager in testing busts everything in gnome ?
by Frederic Bezies 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

Hello everybody. Yesterday, my computer installed from testing last networkmanager version, 0.7.998-1. It worked OK until I shut down my computer. This morning, I cannot get any single program to be launched in gnome, even xterm using alt+f2 dialog box. After I downgraded to version 0.7.2-1, all was again working. I opened a bug : http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17743 Did anybody see the same problem or is it my computer ? -- Frederic Bezies - fredbezies(a)gmail.com Weblog : http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/

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[arch-general] 2 Killer kde4 dark themes - DR you listening??
by David C. Rankin 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

Guys, I stumbled into 2 cool looking dark kde4 themes while tweaking an existing theme so I thought I would pass them along for any others that like dark themes ... like DR. The themes are dark gradient themes: BlueGold color-theme: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/dt/kde4/color-schemes/DcrBlueGold.colors screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/kde4/DcrBlueGold.jpg BlackGold color-theme: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/dt/kde4/color-schemes/DcrBlackGold.colo… screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/kde4/DcrBlackGold.jpg (note: the screenshots were from within E16) For the corresponding dark colors for all your kde4 editors (kwrite, kate, quanta), just add the following to your ~/.kde4/share/config/kateschemarc: [kate-kwrite-dark] Color Background=26,26,26 Color Highlighted Bracket=228,180,94 Color Highlighted Line=36,36,36 Color Icon Bar=113,113,112 Color Line Number=167,167,167 Color MarkType1=228,180,94 Color MarkType2=255,0,0 Color MarkType3=255,255,0 Color MarkType4=255,0,255 Color MarkType5=160,160,164 Color MarkType6=0,255,0 Color MarkType7=255,0,0 Color Selection=47,87,133 Color Tab Marker=115,115,115 Color Template Background=204,204,204 Color Template Editable Placeholder=204,255,204 Color Template Focused Editable Placeholder=102,255,102 Color Template Not Editable Placeholder=255,204,204 Color Word Wrap Marker=76,76,76 Font=DejaVu Sans Mono,8,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 then in an editor, choose Settings -> Configure Editor -> Fonts & Colors and then change the "Schema:" (at the top) and the "Default schema for Kate/Kwrite:" (at the bottom) and the editor window color will not complement the dark theme. Enjoy! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Quoting of E-mails
by Steve Holmes 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 I've been seeing some very passionate pleeds in posts lately concerning top-posting of replies. I, for one, don't really mind seeing top-posted e-mails like that because I can see the reply quickly and if the thread is current in my mind, I don't have to re-read the old stuff over and over again. Nothing annoys me more than haveing to page through five generations of past messages in a single thread to get all the way to the bottom just to have a single line of text say something like "Thank you" or "I agree" or whatever. The only thing that makes bottom-posting, like this bareable to me at all is Mutt's 'S' command which takes the cursor down to the unquoted text for much quicker reading. If bottom-posting is so passionately desirable, then may I suggest people trim down the history of a thread to the most recent 1 or 2 generations back. Or maybe even better, just reply with no quoting and and briefly summarize the quoted context. Yeah, I realize quoting past context is more work. I just find that when people top-post, I can seem to get through the mud a lot faster. Of course interlacing replies with quoted text makes a lot of sense when you have multiple issues or questions being asked. Anyway, just my thoughts, not trying to war or any of that, just trying to see the proes and cons of e-mail styles. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAktL+5AACgkQWSjv55S0LfEQ4ACgxr5OkA9AMsezDU6ynhNmHj4Y 9mYAnjwZIcgCUHB0yo6Gu8ScCIj4awfD =90j9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] Deluge is missing one dependency
by Felipe Tanus 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

Hi all, When running deluge from a terminal, i got the following output: [fotanus@Yoda ~]$ deluge [ERROR ] 00:07:58 ui:146 No module named chardet Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/deluge/ui/ui.py", line 127, in __init__ from deluge.ui.gtkui.gtkui import GtkUI File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/deluge/ui/gtkui/__init__.py", line 1, in <module> from gtkui import start File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/deluge/ui/gtkui/gtkui.py", line 79, in <module> from connectionmanager import ConnectionManager File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/deluge/ui/gtkui/connectionmanager.py", line 49, in <module> import deluge.ui.common File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/deluge/ui/common.py", line 45, in <module> import chardet ImportError: No module named chardet [ERROR ] 00:07:58 ui:147 There was an error whilst launching the request UI: gtk [ERROR ] 00:07:58 ui:148 Look at the traceback above for more information. [fotanus@Yoda ~]$ I guess it's missing the "python-chardet" dependency. Once i installed, everything worked out. []'s -- Felipe de Oliveira Tanus E-mail: fotanus(a)gmail.com Blog: http://www.itlife.com.br Site: http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~fotanus/ ----- "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." - Gandalf

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[arch-general] Adding new partition to system from unpartitioned space - any reason to not use ext4??
by David C. Rankin 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

Guys, This is just a quick request to make sure I don't screw myself playing with new technology. I have a server 5 existing ext3 partitions on a dmraid array with several hundred gig of unpartitioned space. I have created the new partition and I'm about the create the filesystem. With ext4 now available, is there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and create the filesystem as ext4? It will simply be another data partition to supplement /home that was created rather small to begin with. Any thoughts or gotchas on using ext4 instead of ext3 for this?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] dmraid wiki wrong on chroot proceedure??
by David C. Rankin 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

Guys, I was helping someone on installing grub and I noticed the following on: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_with_Fake_RAID under "Install Grub" that does not look correct: # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev # mount -t proc none /mnt/proc # mount -t sysfs none /mnt/sys # chroot /mnt /bin/bash That should be: # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev # mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc # mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys # chroot /mnt /bin/bash shouldn't it?? I know there wasn't a sysfs involved the last time I did this. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] [signoff] wicd-1.7.0-1
by Daniel Isenmann 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

Hi, there is a new version of wicd in [testing]. In the past there were always problems in upgrading wicd, so I have decided to put it in [testing] first. Please test it and give me some signoffs. Big changelog: 1.7.0: Changes for Packagers: - Wicd now supports a -k option, which should be run by the init script when the daemon is stopped to release the DHCP lease but should not be run on a restart of the daemon. - The ability has been added to split Wicd's components into multiple directories. Use --gtk, --cli, --curses, and --daemon to setup.py configure to specify the locations of the respective components. - The preferred way to run the GTK UI is now to use wicd-gtk, not wicd-client. wicd-gtk is a new addition to 1.7 that will never run wicd-curses. wicd-client will automatically decide to run wicd-curses if there is no X session available. Major Changes: - Connection information is available by right clicking the tray icon - Can set the hostname per network for all DHCP clients - urwid 0.9.9 is now supported - Added wicd-cli, a command line interface for use in scripts - Global scripts are now passed parameters specifying the network Minor Changes: - Support for only displaying notifications using -o to wicd-client - Reconnecting now works when measuring signal strength in dBm - ESSIDs made of numbers now work properly - All valid wpa_supplicant drivers are now displayed - Wired network is now displayed while scanning wireless networks - Added wicd-gtk, a command to always and only run the GTK UI - Marked ioctl backend not supported - Use dhcpcd-bin on Debian instead of dhcpcd script Daniel

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts-2.6.27.44-1 & kernel26-lts-headers-2.6.27.44-1
by Tobias Powalowski 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

Hi guys, latest bugfix release. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17791 # Added UTS_NAMESPACE support Please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] psmisc-22.10-1
by Eric Bélanger 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Minor upstream update. Please test and signoff. > Signoff i686 > Anyone (dev or user) for x86_64?

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[arch-general] new Allegro
by Matěj Týč 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hello, there is new Allegro version out and I have modified abs's PKGBUILD to fit. They use cmake now, so it looks different. The new version should be 100% compatible with the current one. Cheers, Matej

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[arch-general] Startup scripts
by Tom 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

I was just forced to waste 10 min of my life because of arch-linux-way 'of doing things'. *rant mode on* Let me elaborate, for quite some time now, I've been unappeased by the way arch-linux handles the boot-up process, not so much by how it actually does it (it normally gets the job done) but more the fact that there's little to no obvious way of checking on it when things do go wrong. I've not been able to boot my custom compiled kernels since pathes 32.2 and 32.3, I don't know why, the config is identical to my running 32. I am at a loss. Anyway just now, I rebooted, tested yet another kernel, which failed of course, just to be sat in front of my kms-enabled high-resolution tty1 telling me that my home-partition needed checking after 34 mounts. Nice feature, normally I wouldn't bother, but I was in a hurry, so I hit ctrl-c, and bang 'fsck failed' - well yes it did, because I wanted it to, - dumbass, well I go and hit 'Control-D' to continue, and lo and behold the machine reboots, just to get on my nerves again with the fsck the next round through. I accepted defeat then, and went and made myself a nice hot cup of tee, BUT dear arch community, this is something I hate and find so wrong on so many levels I cannot begin to describe them all, even m$ offered a way to skip these things most of the time...) *rant mode off* Seriously I find the systems behaviour offensive, I should be in control, not some half-baked script. This is exactly the same reason that I had to sit through fsck regulary a while back(2.6.30 or 2.6.31), because of some bug regarding ext4-partitions(the timestamp in future error), not really because of the bug, but because of the inflexibility of arch linux boot up scriptures. Where to go, to file that bug... Tom

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[arch-general] Re-installing whole system without touching configs.
by Javier Vasquez 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hi, Some time back, while xscreensver was running the system got locked, so that I couldn't log back neither under X, neither under the console. The only solution at hand was to do a hard reset. After such hard reset, the partition for /tmp got corrupted and it had to be repaired. However ever now and then since that incident I get errors when xscreensaver is running, including system freeze. Some times when running the demo application (xscreensaver user interface), in some screen saver applications I get errors in the preview indicating problems with gtk, or some gnome libs and the like, but then the same screen savers after reboot don't give that problem. Notice I've uninstalled xscreensaver and installit back, with no effect... Perhaps important to note is that I'm using ext4 in all partitions. So I have run already "fsck -f" over all partitions, but what's left is to re-install everything... I don't want to do a install from scratch, just want to re-install everything, but not touching the configuration files. Still I want to re-install all packages already installed in the system. Is there a way to do such re-install through pacman? If so, please let me know. Thanks, -- Javier.

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[arch-general] packaging workload / help wanted
by Andreas Radke 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

It's time to call for help. I've run into a packaging workload I don't want to handle anymore. Some package groups take damn much time to follow upstream development, other just eat compile time. I don't want to give away completely these package groups for now (maybe later) but I really need help in the longer view. I'd like to work together with a few more people in maintaining package groups. I've already asked internally but got no real helpful response. That's why I want to ask you the community members to help out in some of my packaging tasks. Is anybody interested in helping out in the following package groups? 1) openjdk6 (openjdk7 expected later this year). new coming npplugin needs early testing. 2) OpenOffice and Go-OOo (aka ooo-build). Packaging requires fast hardware. 3) Xfce - I took it all over from Tobias(neri) because he's often not very active. Maybe someone can help here. Xfce 4.8 expected first half this year. 4) Nouveau stack 5) Ati stack - I'm forced to used the free ati drivers but someone else with one or even more Ati cards working together with upstream people would be nice to have aboard. Future KMS will require lots of testing. 5) LinuxPrinting (Cups, foomatic, ghostscript) - always buggy on major releases. Not much work all the other time. Please also check my other major packages. You should be an Arch user for some time and I expect you to know how to package and work together with upstream developers. Please drop me a (private) mail if you are interested. -AndyRTR

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] xfsprogs-3.1.0
by Tobias Powalowski 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

Hi bump to latest version, xfsprogs-3.1.0 (13 January 2010) - Reduce memory usage in xfs_repair by using better data structures. - Add additional checks in xfs_repair to detect freespace btree corruption instead of only rebuilding the btrees. Useful for the no-modify mode. - Fix libhandle to use the right path to issue by-handle ioctls for symbolic links and special files. - Use lazy superblock counters by default. At least kernel 2.6.22 is needed for this feature. - Use physical device sector size if available in mkfs.xfs, so 4K sector devices are handed more gracefully. - Add a German translation, thanks to Chris Leick. - Enable the madvise and mincor commands in xfs_io. - Fix unsafe temporary file creation in xfs_fsr. - Add support for discarding unused space on SSDs or thin provisioned arrays in mkfs.xfs. - Allow linking against libblkid for topology information. - Add symbol versioning for libhandle. - Remove the included RPM and binary tarball built infrastructure. - Various build system improvements. - Small fixes to xfs_db and xfs_io. please signoff both arches, thanks greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] rp-pppoe-3.10-2
by Daniel Isenmann 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

Hi, this is just a small fix for FS#13876 -[rp-pppoe] package: .so file in /etc (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13876) The kernel-mode plugin is now under /usr/lib/rp-pppoe/rp-pppoe.so and the initial config file /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf has the new path included. Existing config file must be changed to the new path. I can't test it, so please test if everything is working and signoff. Daniel

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[arch-general] gmail and mailing list
by Xavier 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Mauro Santos <registo.mailling(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> P.S.: As a sidenote: Is it normal/intentional that I don't get my own >>> mails back via the list? Or is this some weird GMail stuff? >> >> It's a gmail issue. >> >> I'm not sure if there is a setting or something like that, but i've >> noticed the same and also heard other people about it. >> >> >> mvg, >> Guus >> > > Same problem here, and they even know about it, they might as well > provide some workaround or option to change it. > > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588 > I don't understand how that is an issue. Why do you want to see your own mails in the inbox ? For each ML I subscribe to, I create a new label and a new filter, and I set it to skip inbox and archive because I do not want ML to clutter my inbox. Much better that way :) But to each his own. That said I think it's always better to have configure options and control.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-notifications] Orphan Extra package [snes9x] marked out-of-date
by Daenyth Blank 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 06:29, Arch Website Notification <nobody(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > * Note: this is an automated message > > <redacted>@gmail.com wants to notify you that the following package may be out > of date: > > Package Name: snes9x > Architecture: i686 > Repository: Extra > (http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/snes9x/) > > > The user provided the following additional text: > > http://snes9x.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4542 > > > Please add a .install notice using vercmp if the upgrade was from <=1.51 - IMPORTANT NOTICE: The structure of savestates (also known as snapshots / freeze files) is incompatible with older versions! Snes9x 1.52 cannot read the savestates created by 1.51 or older. If no one wants to adopt this I can take it in community.

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[arch-general] building x86_64 packages under qemu?
by Chris Brannon 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Is there any reason why building x86_64 packages under qemu-system-x86_64 would be a bad idea? It is a little slow, but it is usable. Plus, qemu has a curses interface. -- Chris

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[arch-general] Away from my PC -> away from bugtracker.
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Hello all I will be away from now for about two or more weeks. I recently surfered an small irritation on my eyss, so I can not stay on my PC :( Leaving the bugtracker in their hands, I hope to be with you again soon. Best regards. Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] KMS and external monitor resolution
by André Ramaciotti da Silva 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Hi all, I'm sorry if it has already been discussed here, but I couldn't find anything with the keywords I was using. I even had a bad time choosing this message subject. I bought a new, bigger monitor to use with my notebook. I've already configured X, but sometimes I like to write on the tty (there are less distractions there) and I'm having a little problem with it. The native resolution of the notebook screen is 1280x800 and the native resolution of the external monitor is 1920x1080, so when I'm on the tty, the external monitor uses only a box on the top left side with a size of 1280x800. What I would like to do is turn off the notebook monitor and use only the external monitor with its native resolution, without, of course, messing with my X setup, as it's already set. I'm using a Intel GMA965 with KMS. TIA Bye, Andre

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[arch-general] arch-dev-public on dcron 4.3 and logrotate
by Jim Pryor 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 04:28:40PM -0500, Paul Mattal wrote: > On 01/12/2010 04:16 PM, Eric Bélanger wrote: > >>>As the dcron logging is now managed by syslog-ng, it shouldn't provide > >>>a /etc/logrotate.d/crond. Instead, we should release a new syslog-ng > >>>package with /var/log/crond.log added to the list of logfiles being > >>>taken care of in its /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng. We could add, at the > >>>same time, the other logfiles created by syslog-ng but currently > >>>ignored in the log rotation: > >>> > >>>/var/log/lpr.log > >>>/var/log/uucp.log > >>>/var/log/news.log > >>>/var/log/ppp.log > >>>/var/log/debug.log > >>>/var/log/acpid.log > >>> > >>>Am I missing something? Any objections, comments? > >> > >>Actually, that sounds backwards to me. If cron isn't installed, we > >>have no log file. It makes sense to me - if pkgA adds more log files > >>that get big, it should also provide its own logrotate file. > > > >I guess it depends how you see it. The way I see it is that it's > >syslog-ng who creates the file and appends to it so it should be > >responsible for the rotation as well. Plus, we use the missingok > >option so if the file is missing, it just skips it whithout even > >issuing an error message. So no harm is done. > > I can see both sides of this, but in essence, it seems like it's > syslog-ng which ultimately decides the filename-- if syslog-ng.conf > is changed to log cron output to another file, it's syslog-ng that > decides where they go. So I think I agree with Eric that syslog-ng > should be responsible for the rotating the files it determines > should exist in its default configuration. > > I'll wait a while to hear from others before doing anything directly > to address this. Yes, the logrotate script was needed when dcron didn't use syslog. And I'll leave it in the release tarballs "extra" folder as an example for users who continue to use dcron that way. But on my own system I have syslog logging the cron output to "cron.log" not "crond.log": from /etc/syslog-ng.conf: destination d_cron { file("/var/log/cron.log"); }; filter f_cron { facility(cron) or program("rsnapshot"); }; log { source(src); filter(f_cron); destination(d_cron); }; And I have /var/log/cron.log handled by my /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng script: /var/log/[..lots of logs, including cron.log..] { missingok sharedscripts postrotate /bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslog-ng.pid 2>/dev/null` 2> /dev/null || true endscript } I can appreciate arguments both ways myself, but for my own use found it easiest to just ignore the dcron-supplied logrotate script and edit it into my syslog-ng logrotate script. -- profjim(a)jimpryor.net dcron developer

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] mkinitcpio 0.5.28-1
by Evangelos Foutras 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

On 12/01/2010 11:03 πμ, Thomas Bächler wrote: > I think what we have now in the kill-klibc branch might actually boot in > a standard setup (no raid, nfs, lvm, encryption), but I didn't try. I'll > keep you posted. I gave it a try in a VM but it still fails with "Failed to execute /init" like last time (http://i.imgur.com/h6xDu.png) The mkinicpio revision I tried was 54fd032, along with latest mkinitcpio-busybox/trunk. The command used to generate the initramfs image was `./mkinitcpio -g /boot/kernel26.img' from within the cloned Git repository (switched to the kill-klibc branch). Let me know if I can help with further testing.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [announcement] qemu/qemu-kvm announcement draft
by Simon Boulay 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

On 01/09/2010 09:09 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Samstag 09 Januar 2010 schrieb Dan McGee: >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Tobias Powalowski<t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: >>> > Yes will change the install message. >>> >>>> Yes there is no mention in the changelogs, really strange. >>>> greetings >>>> tpowa >>> >>> Ok like this? >>> echo ">>> Since kernel 2.6.29:" >>> echo ">>> Qemu package now provides standard qemu with kvm enabled." >>> echo "" >>> echo ">>> PLEASE READ FOR KVM USAGE!" >>> echo ">>> Load the correct KVM module, you will need a KVM capable >>> CPU!" echo ">>> Add yourself to the group 'kvm'." >>> echo ">>> Use 'qemu --enable-kvm' to use KVM." >>> echo "" >>> echo "With the release of qemu and qemu-kvm 0.12.X, the kqemu kernel >>> module" echo "is no longer supported and will be removed from the >>> repositories. You" echo "can safely uninstall it from your system." >> >> Can we put some vercmp checks around messages like this? That way >> people only have to see them once (when they upgrade the first time to >> a 0.12.x version for the second message). The first message should >> really be a post_install message. >> >> And with all that said, why are there two packages in extra if "qemu >> package now provides standard qemu with kvm enabled"? >> >> -Dan >> > Yes sure i can add those vercmp stuff. > qemu and qemu-kvm is different. > qemu-kvm is only for kvm while qemu provides much more machines to emulate. I'm not sure about that. Both seems to share the same code for machine emulation; only the kvm stuff is different. In fedora 12, they build kvm and qemu-system-xxx from qemu-kvm 0.11. But I don't know how this will evolve in the future. If qemu and qemu-kvm are used for different purposes, one may need to install both apps side by side but that's not possible in archlinux. I see two ways to handle that: 1. Permit the installation of both applications at the same time (qemu for system emulation, qemu-kvm for visualization). qemu-kvm executables can be renamed to kvm-xyz. That's what Debian do. 2. Build qemu-kvm with --target="" and all came in the same package. With 0.11, only qemu provided kqemu but as the kqemu support is gone, the second proposition seems to be the way to go. I use this on archlinux for kvm (winXP) and sh or arm emulation without problems since 0.11. Simon. > greetings > tpowa

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[arch-general] Deluge 1.2.0
by Damien Churchill 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

I was wondering if it would be possible to add a message, saying the preferred way of running the different user interfaces now is via a deluge-* script, so deluge-gtk, deluge-web and deluge-console, to the post_install() of the package? Damien

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] OS News interview
by Xavier 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

The common way is to reply on arch-general, so I will include that list in CC now. Thanks for the clarification. So your concern was not about using external binaries, it was about keeping to use outdated Arch programs. That's also a very good point when talking about disadvantages of the rolling release model. It seems most developers answered purely from a developer point of view more than a user one. But I read the answers again and noticed the overlord did mention both sides :) "Aaron Griffin: The biggest problem with the rolling release model is laziness - from upstream developers and Arch users. We try to stay up to date wherever possible, but some upstream developers are slow at adopting new changes. This means we need to do extra work to make their software compatible with new library versions and things of that nature. On the user end, you get people who don't regularly update their system (something we indicate as very important), and you end up with newer software and older libraries on the same system, causing breakages." So I just want to highlight that it's indeed very important to regularly update a Arch system, and it's something that should be made clear when advertising Arch, because it definitely does not fit to everyone. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Gregory Eric Sanderson <gzou2000(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Xavier, > > I tried to post an answer to your last message, but since i'm only an > "observer" on the dev list I can't. So I'm transfering directly to you my > answer if ever it might interest you > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gregory Eric Sanderson <gzou2000(a)gmail.com> > Date: Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:20 PM > Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] OS News interview > To: Public mailing list for Arch Linux development > <arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org> > > > Actually, that question came from me :-) > > Sorry if the question wasn't clear, I should have phrased it in a different > way. Although my country officiaily has 2 languages, I live in the province > that speaks almost only french, so I don't get much chances practicing my > english. > > The "programs that depend on older libraries who aren't on the system > anymore because of an update" is actually an example that I was trying to > give of a disadvantage that could occur because of the rolling release > model. when I switched full-time to Arch, I din't do system upgrades very > often and It happend regularly that programs would stop to work because they > were linked to libraries who were updated as part of the installation of a > new program. (I hardly get this problem anymore since I upgrade more > regularly now) > > Don't get me wrong, I love the rolling release model. But I was curious to > know what the developers thought of this and if they saw any other > disadvantages or "quirks" that the rolling release model brought > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> > The OS News interview is up: >> > http://www.osnews.com/story/22692/Arch_Linux_Team >> > >> >> Fun interview. Allan's answers are the best, I have to say :) >> >> Some comments : >> - a few formatting issues. like the first reply from Thomas often >> misses a newline. Allan lost his A and became llan and one page. >> >> - whats the difference between these two questions on page 5 : >> What part of the Arch Linux development is the most active? >> Where is development primarily focused for the Arch Linux team (the >> installation, pacman, etc)? >> >> - about this question >> One of the most notable characteristics of Arch is its rolling release >> model, which assures users that they will always have the latest and >> newest version of a program available. Has this model brought any >> noticeable disadvantages (for example: programs that depend on older >> libraries who aren't on the system anymore because of an update)? >> >> I am not sure what the question meant to hint with "programs that >> depend on older libraries who aren't on the system anymore because of >> an update" but that reminded me of several times I tried to run some >> binaries on Arch, and it failed because all libraries were too new. :) > >

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[arch-general] PKGBUILD for extra/cegui
by Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

Hi all! I've posted on forum (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88509) that the package extra/cegui was out of date and then was instructed by Allan to post the modified PKGBUILD on the mailing list. Basically, I just modified the version, the license file location and md5sums. Also, a static reference to old version 0.6.2 to variable $pkgver. ------- pkgname=cegui pkgver=0.7.1 pkgrel=4 pkgdesc="A free library providing windowing and widgets for graphics APIs/engines" arch=(i686 x86_64) url="http://crayzedsgui.sourceforge.net" options=('!libtool') license=("MIT") depends=('pcre' 'expat' 'freetype2' 'libxml2' 'devil' 'freeglut' 'lua' 'silly') [ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && depends=(${depends[@]} 'silly') source=(http://downloads.sourceforge.net/crayzedsgui/CEGUI-$pkgver.tar.gz) build() { cd $startdir/src/CEGUI-$pkgver ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-devil --enable-silly \ --disable-xerces-c --with-default-image-codec=SILLYImageCodec \ --enable-lua make || return 1 make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install install -D -m644 doc/COPYING $startdir/pkg/usr/share/licenses/$pkgname/COPYING } md5sums=('0a2815d5204e3c5510884ab62285da97') ------- I didn't check if the old dependencies are still needed, but anyway, that was actually my first pkgbuild. -- Rodrigo

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[arch-general] wchan info in ps
by Dimitrios Apostolou 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

Hello list, is anyone actually getting WCHAN information from either ps or top? To try it just use "ps opid,wchan,cmd". I only get dashes, any idea why? Thanks, Dimitris

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[arch-general] Efficiency of devs/TUs
by Ng Oon-Ee 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

I just did my -Syu and saw pidgin had been version-bumped to 2.6.5. Since my connection is dog-slow, I browsed to pidgin.im while waiting for the download to finish (I like to check change-logs). Lo and behold, the version advertised on Pidgin's official website was 2.6.4! Of course, the sourceforge was at 2.6.5. Which has just been uploaded today, 10th January. Now THAT'S what I call efficiency. Thanks guys. The PKGBUILD indicates Biru Ionut as the specific maintainer, but thanks to all the rest as well =).

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[arch-general] CUPS
by Weiwei Wang 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

Hello, everyone, I'm a freshman in ArchLinux. As my lab owns a printer connected to a windows system, I need to connect it using cups. I read the wiki guide and do as what is told. However, I always receive this messge: Connection failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME My /etc/cups/printers.conf is shown below: # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4.2 # Written by cupsd on 2010-01-09 15:32 # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE WHEN CUPSD IS RUNNING <Printer HpLaserJ> Info RL Printer Location RL Lab Students Printer MakeModel HP LaserJet 1010, hpcups 3.9.12 DeviceURI smb://elegate:jessica@172.16.65.79/print$/ State Stopped StateMessage Processing page 2... StateTime 1263022347 Reason paused Type 36876 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-raster 0 hpcups Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer </Printer> <Printer Virtual_PDF_Printer> Info Virtual PDF Printer Location Weiwei's Laptop MakeModel Apple 12/640ps Foomatic/Postscript (recommended) DeviceURI cups-pdf:/ State Idle StateTime 1263021073 Type 8400916 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip Filter application/vnd.apple-pdf 25 foomatic-rip Filter application/vnd.cups-command 0 commandtops Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer </Printer> And I checked that the printer in the windows system is share with the name hpLaserJ, however when I connect it with smbclient //172.16.65.79/hpLaserJ, i receive NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED so i tried with smbclient //172.16.65.79/print$ and it works fine when i try to list the contents using ls command. That's why I use the name print$ in the printers.conf cups and samba are both definitely running. Samba configuration is shown below: # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the options listed # here. Samba has a huge number of configurable options (perhaps too # many!) most of which are not shown in this example # # For a step to step guide on installing, configuring and using samba, # read the Samba-HOWTO-Collection. This may be obtained from: # http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf # # Many working examples of smb.conf files can be found in the # Samba-Guide which is generated daily and can be downloaded from: # http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba-Guide.pdf # # Any line which starts with a ; (semi-colon) or a # (hash) # is a comment and is ignored. In this example we will use a # # for commentry and a ; for parts of the config file that you # may wish to enable # # NOTE: Whenever you modify this file you should run the command "testparm" # to check that you have not made any basic syntactic errors. # #======================= Global Settings ===================================== [global] # workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name, eg: MIDEARTH workgroup = WORKGROUP # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field server string = Samba Server # Security mode. Defines in which mode Samba will operate. Possible # values are share, user, server, domain and ads. Most people will want # user level security. See the Samba-HOWTO-Collection for details. security = user # This option is important for security. It allows you to restrict # connections to machines which are on your local network. The # following example restricts access to two C class networks and # the "loopback" interface. For more examples of the syntax see # the smb.conf man page ; hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.2. 127. # If you want to automatically load your printer list rather # than setting them up individually then you'll need this load printers = yes # you may wish to override the location of the printcap file ; printcap name = /etc/printcap # on SystemV system setting printcap name to lpstat should allow # you to automatically obtain a printer list from the SystemV spool # system ; printcap name = lpstat # It should not be necessary to specify the print system type unless # it is non-standard. Currently supported print systems include: # bsd, cups, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx ; printing = cups # Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must add this to /etc/passwd # otherwise the user "nobody" is used ; guest account = pcguest # this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine # that connects log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log # Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb). max log size = 50 # Use password server option only with security = server # The argument list may include: # password server = My_PDC_Name [My_BDC_Name] [My_Next_BDC_Name] # or to auto-locate the domain controller/s # password server = * ; password server = <NT-Server-Name> # Use the realm option only with security = ads # Specifies the Active Directory realm the host is part of ; realm = MY_REALM # Backend to store user information in. New installations should # use either tdbsam or ldapsam. smbpasswd is available for backwards # compatibility. tdbsam requires no further configuration. ; passdb backend = tdbsam # Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration # on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name # of the machine that is connecting. # Note: Consider carefully the location in the configuration file of # this line. The included file is read at that point. ; include = /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf.%m # Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces # If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them # here. See the man page for details. ; interfaces = 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24 # Browser Control Options: # set local master to no if you don't want Samba to become a master # browser on your network. Otherwise the normal election rules apply ; local master = no # OS Level determines the precedence of this server in master browser # elections. The default value should be reasonable ; os level = 33 # Domain Master specifies Samba to be the Domain Master Browser. This # allows Samba to collate browse lists between subnets. Don't use this # if you already have a Windows NT domain controller doing this job ; domain master = yes # Preferred Master causes Samba to force a local browser election on startup # and gives it a slightly higher chance of winning the election ; preferred master = yes # Enable this if you want Samba to be a domain logon server for # Windows95 workstations. ; domain logons = yes # if you enable domain logons then you may want a per-machine or # per user logon script # run a specific logon batch file per workstation (machine) ; logon script = %m.bat # run a specific logon batch file per username ; logon script = %U.bat # Where to store roving profiles (only for Win95 and WinNT) # %L substitutes for this servers netbios name, %U is username # You must uncomment the [Profiles] share below ; logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U # Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section: # WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable it's WINS Server ; wins support = yes # WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a WINS Client # Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT both ; wins server = w.x.y.z # WINS Proxy - Tells Samba to answer name resolution queries on # behalf of a non WINS capable client, for this to work there must be # at least one WINS Server on the network. The default is NO. ; wins proxy = yes # DNS Proxy - tells Samba whether or not to try to resolve NetBIOS names # via DNS nslookups. The default is NO. dns proxy = no # These scripts are used on a domain controller or stand-alone # machine to add or delete corresponding unix accounts ; add user script = /usr/sbin/useradd %u ; add group script = /usr/sbin/groupadd %g ; add machine script = /usr/sbin/adduser -n -g machines -c Machine -d /dev/null -s /bin/false %u ; delete user script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u ; delete user from group script = /usr/sbin/deluser %u %g ; delete group script = /usr/sbin/groupdel %g #============================ Share Definitions ============================== [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes # Un-comment the following and create the netlogon directory for Domain Logons ; [netlogon] ; comment = Network Logon Service ; path = /usr/local/samba/lib/netlogon ; guest ok = yes ; writable = no ; share modes = no # Un-comment the following to provide a specific roving profile share # the default is to use the user's home directory ;[Profiles] ; path = /usr/local/samba/profiles ; browseable = no ; guest ok = yes # NOTE: If you have a BSD-style print system there is no need to # specifically define each individual printer [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba browseable = no # Set public = yes to allow user 'guest account' to print guest ok = no writable = no printable = yes # This one is useful for people to share files ;[tmp] ; comment = Temporary file space ; path = /tmp ; read only = no ; public = yes # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except for people in # the "staff" group ;[public] ; comment = Public Stuff ; path = /home/samba ; public = yes ; writable = no ; printable = no ; write list = @staff # Other examples. # # A private printer, usable only by fred. Spool data will be placed in fred's # home directory. Note that fred must have write access to the spool directory, # wherever it is. ;[fredsprn] ; comment = Fred's Printer ; valid users = fred ; path = /homes/fred ; printer = freds_printer ; public = no ; writable = no ; printable = yes # A private directory, usable only by fred. Note that fred requires write # access to the directory. ;[fredsdir] ; comment = Fred's Service ; path = /usr/somewhere/private ; valid users = fred ; public = no ; writable = yes ; printable = no # a service which has a different directory for each machine that connects # this allows you to tailor configurations to incoming machines. You could # also use the %U option to tailor it by user name. # The %m gets replaced with the machine name that is connecting. ;[pchome] ; comment = PC Directories ; path = /usr/pc/%m ; public = no ; writable = yes # A publicly accessible directory, read/write to all users. Note that all files # created in the directory by users will be owned by the default user, so # any user with access can delete any other user's files. Obviously this # directory must be writable by the default user. Another user could of course # be specified, in which case all files would be owned by that user instead. ;[public] ; path = /usr/somewhere/else/public ; public = yes ; only guest = yes ; writable = yes ; printable = no # The following two entries demonstrate how to share a directory so that two # users can place files there that will be owned by the specific users. In this # setup, the directory should be writable by both users and should have the # sticky bit set on it to prevent abuse. Obviously this could be extended to # as many users as required. ;[myshare] ; comment = Mary's and Fred's stuff ; path = /usr/somewhere/shared ; valid users = mary fred ; public = no ; writable = yes ; printable = no ; create mask = 0765 I feel really frustrated by this job. Help me~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Weiwei Wang Alex Wang 王巍巍 Room 403, Mengmin Wei Building Computer Science Department Gulou Campus of Nanjing University Nanjing, P.R.China, 210093 Homepage: http://cs.nju.edu.cn/rl/weiweiwang

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Re: [arch-general] kill-klibc (Was: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] mkinitcpio 0.5.27-1)
by Evangelos Foutras 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

On 09/01/2010 07:06 μμ, Thomas Bächler wrote: > This is a bugfix release which (among other less important things) fixed > the early userspace firmware loading problem. Please sign off. > > This will hopefully be the last release before we move to 0.6, which > will have all klibc dependencies removed, see > http://projects.archlinux.org/mkinitcpio.git/?h=kill-klibc for progress. > Any contributions here are welcome, nothing works yet. What do you think needs doing? I doubt I'll be able to help much, but I'm curious. I gave the kill-klibc branch a try in a VM, but --as you noted-- all I got was a kernel panic (http://i.imgur.com/h6xDu.png)

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[arch-general] Virtualbox with upgraded kernel
by richard terry 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

hi List, I've upgraded to kernel 2.6.32 and virtual box dosn't work. I looked at the wiki re the various methods of upgrading the driver: [root@laptop pkg]# vbox_build_module Building vboxdrv for Linux 2.6.32-ARCH make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxdrv' for f in . linux r0drv r0drv/linux VBox common/err common/string common/log generic math/gcc; \ do rm -f $f/*.o $f/.*.cmd $f/.*.flags; done rm -rf .vboxdrv* .tmp_ver* vboxdrv.* Module.symvers Modules.symvers modules.order make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxdrv' make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxnetflt' for f in . linux r0drv r0drv/linux VBox common/err common/string common/log generic math/gcc; \ do rm -f $f/*.o $f/.*.cmd $f/.*.flags; done rm -rf .vboxnetflt* .tmp_ver* vboxnetflt.* Modules.symvers modules.order make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxnetflt' make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxnetadp' for f in . linux r0drv r0drv/linux VBox common/err common/string common/log generic math/gcc; \ do rm -f $f/*.o $f/.*.cmd $f/.*.flags; done rm -rf .vboxnetadp* .tmp_ver* vboxnetadp.* Modules.symvers modules.order make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxnetadp' rm -f vboxdrv.ko vboxnetflt.ko vboxnetadp.ko *** Building 'vboxdrv' module *** make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxdrv' Makefile:147: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxdrv' make: *** [all] Error 2 kernel-headers-2.6.32-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz is installed. Any help appreciated.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libpng todo list
by Daenyth Blank 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 16:59, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > I just created a todo list containing 163 packages. This todo list > contains all packages that link to libpng and that should get rebuilt > when we update to libpng 1.4.0. What is the new soname? I'd like to make a list for arch-games as well.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.3-1
by Tobias Powalowski 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

Hi guys, bump to latest bugfix version. Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17538 # added blktrace http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17106 # finally added CONFIG_MMIOTRACE http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17696 # fixed intel wireless http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17687 # fixed rt61 wireless http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17661 # remove created initramfs on deinstall Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] via vt6306 firewire card not recognized anymore
by Dieter Plaetinck 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

Hi, I'm glad the .32 kernel comes with the new firewire stack, so i can finally use dvgrab (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79856) well.. that's what i thought. this kernel does not recognize my pci firewire card with the via vt6306 chipset. (running all latest packages from core, not testing. arch kernel) how can i get this working? [dieter@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]$ lspci | grep -i via [dieter@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]$ dmesg | grep -i via [dieter@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]$ uname -a Linux dieter-p4sci-arch 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 7 22:19:56 UTC 2010 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [dieter@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]$ zgrep -i via /proc/config.gz # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC7 is not set CONFIG_VIA_FIR=m CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=m CONFIG_SATA_VIA=m CONFIG_PATA_VIA=m CONFIG_VIA_RHINE=m # CONFIG_VIA_RHINE_MMIO is not set CONFIG_VIA_VELOCITY=m CONFIG_HW_RANDOM_VIA=m CONFIG_I2C_VIA=m CONFIG_I2C_VIAPRO=m CONFIG_SENSORS_VIA686A=m CONFIG_AGP_VIA=m CONFIG_DRM_VIA=m CONFIG_FB_VIA=m CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=y CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=m CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM=m CONFIG_MMC_VIA_SDMMC=m Dieter

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[arch-general] [Request] Remove libpthread-stubs from packages svn/trunk
by arch＠nezmer.info 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

Can someone remove libpthread-stubs from packages svn/trunk? The package obviously was removed from the repos a long time ago and tools like pbget would fetch an outdated PKGBUILD.

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[arch-general] [Package Removal Request]gimageview
by anonymous anonymous 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17011 [gimageview] segfaults This package hasn't been updated since 2004 and segfaults. The bug report explains this well.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts-2.6.27.43-1 & kernel26-lts-headers-2.6.27.43-1
by Tobias Powalowski 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

Hi guys, latest bugfix release. Please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] go-openoffice not opening templates - anybody else?
by David C. Rankin 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

Guys, I had to uninstall go-openoffice today and install the regular (beta) version so my templates would open again. When I would try and open them in go-oo, the window would open like it was trying to open the template, then the window would just disappear. Has anyone else had a problem with go-oo and templates? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Fwd: [Vorbis] vorbis-tools release soon?
by Ray Kohler 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

The Xiph.org people are looking for some help getting things out the door. I expect that there are a good many capable Ogg/Vorbis users here in Arch-land... Anybody interested? Reply to the thread below on vorbis(a)xiph.org. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <xiphmont(a)xiph.org> Date: 2010/1/6 Subject: Re: [Vorbis] vorbis-tools release soon? To: Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivo(a)gmail.com> Cc: Ray Kohler <ataraxia937(a)gmail.com>, vorbis(a)xiph.org 2010/1/4 Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivo(a)gmail.com>: > On 1/4/10, Ray Kohler <ataraxia937(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Since it's been almost 2 years since vorbis-tools 1.2.0 was released, >> would it be reasonable to see 1.3.0 soon? There are plenty of changes >> in there that deserve to see the light of day - the ReplayGain support >> in ogg123 and the vcut fixes in particular have my attention. > > Tell me about it. It's been one year since I put out an RC. However, > shortly after, I had to get a second job, and, well... > > I should be able to work on the new release after February. > > Oh, and here's a full changelog of everything that changed between releases: > https://trac.xiph.org/browser/trunk/vorbis-tools/CHANGES > > There were so many contributions from so many people... I hope I can > gather all the names for a special thank you message. > > Anyhow, only two things are missing from the final release if memory > serves me well: > > * a big patch for vorbiscomment to add padding in Vorbis files > * fixing the gettextize stuff in oggdec since it's not working for some reason > > Actually, if anybody here knows how to work with gettextize properly, > your input would be quite appreciated here. Aside from gettext, what else is outstanding that should happen before a release? We've recently gotten interest from someone who wants to get some work done on libao, I am wondering if there is some possible work-force-multiplier available in getting releases of both moving now. Monty

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[arch-general] high CPU temperature with 2.6.32
by Dimitrios Apostolou 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

Hello, pacman just brought kernel 2.6.32 for my old laptop (P3 500MHz). A strange thing I noticed is that the fan won't go off when CPU is idling like it used to. Using powertop I can see more than 100K wakeups/s (extra_timer_interrupt is first on the list but I think it's irrelevant since it only shows about 100 wakeups), and the CPU is not going into C2 mode at all. Strangely however the cpu is 99% idle, and top doesn't show "system" or "user" cpu usage. Anyone else seeing such behaviour? Thanks in advance, Dimitris

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron
by Jim Pryor 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:52:45AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > >> Paul Mattal wrote: > >>> > >>> We've got several bugs relating to choosing a new default cron daemon, > >>> and/or supporting other alternatives. > >> > >> <snip> > >> > >> I thought we decided on fcron with the small adjustment/script needed to > >> support /etc/cron.d in the last round of discussion about this. bcron was > >> also popular (+1 from me...) but then we need an anacron replacement too > >> (i.e. fcron). > >> > >> Aaron has repeatedly called for someone to deal with this and we have had a > >> total of zero volunteers to do so... So if you are going to do this then it > >> would be great. (also have a look at mailman in svn trunk if you have time > >> :P ) > > > > Allan is correct here. We looked it over and based on the responses > > from all devs at the time, decided that fcron is the best in terms of > > modernizing our cron. > > > > If anyone would like to upgrade our cron to something better, let's go > > with fcron. Please check the mail archives and bug reports for all the > > discussion about alternative crons and why fcron was decided. I don't > > recall all the reasons, but I know they are all there. > > Though, I must admit, I did not see this email until after I replied. > yacron was not evaluated when we looked into this... Hi this is the author of yacron again. I've just heard from Matt Dillon, he says he's happy for me to take over development and maintainership of dcron. So what I'll do is create a release version of yacron, and rename it to dcron 4.0. Of course that doesn't mean Arch has to keep using dcron; you may still decide fcron is better for core. But if you do want to stay with dcron, its development will now continue with the features I had forked as yacron. -- Jim Pryor profjim(a)jimpryor.net

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[arch-general] How does dmraid handle the development of a bad block on 1 drive in an array??
by David C. Rankin 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Listmates (Tobias) I have a server that has 2 dmraid arrays (4 drives -> 2 arrays) that has been bullet-proof for years. A month ago (either coincidentally or due to a bug in the suse 11.2 kernel for client ssh/sftp sessions) I began experiencing sda errors on the array comprised of sda/sdc drives. The errors took the form of: Dec 5 20:48:48 nirvana sshd[30922]: error: ssh_msg_send: write Dec 5 20:49:10 nirvana sshd[30965]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for legaleagle from 192.168.6.102 port 36 663 ssh2 Dec 5 20:50:12 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 Dec 5 20:50:12 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x25 Dec 5 20:50:12 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: cmd 25/00:08:33:0c:8c/00:00:34:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in Dec 5 20:50:12 nirvana kernel: res 51/40:00:39:0c:8c/40:00:34:00:00/e0 Emask 0x9 (media error) Dec 5 20:50:12 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Dec 5 20:50:12 nirvana kernel: ata3: EH complete Dec 5 20:50:14 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 Dec 5 20:50:14 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x25 Dec 5 20:50:14 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: cmd 25/00:08:33:0c:8c/00:00:34:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in Dec 5 20:50:14 nirvana kernel: res 51/40:00:39:0c:8c/40:00:34:00:00/e0 Emask 0x9 (media error) Dec 5 20:50:14 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Dec 5 20:50:14 nirvana kernel: ata3: EH complete Dec 5 20:50:16 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 Dec 5 20:50:16 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x25 Dec 5 20:50:16 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: cmd 25/00:08:33:0c:8c/00:00:34:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: res 51/40:00:39:0c:8c/40:00:34:00:00/e0 Emask 0x9 (media error) Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3: EH complete Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x25 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: cmd 25/00:08:33:0c:8c/00:00:34:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: res 51/40:00:39:0c:8c/40:00:34:00:00/e0 Emask 0x9 (media error) Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3: EH complete Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x25 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: cmd 25/00:08:33:0c:8c/00:00:34:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: res 51/40:00:39:0c:8c/40:00:34:00:00/e0 Emask 0x9 (media error) Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3: EH complete Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x25 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: cmd 25/00:08:33:0c:8c/00:00:34:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: res 51/40:00:39:0c:8c/40:00:34:00:00/e0 Emask 0x9 (media error) Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] [descriptor] Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex): Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: 72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: 34 8c 0c 39 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 881593401 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: ata3: EH complete Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 976773168 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB) Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 Dec 5 20:50:23 nirvana kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA Booting from the install disk, assembling the arrays and fsck'ing -c -y the individual disks found a bad block on sda, corrected the problem and things were fine for a month. Then the same sda error appeared. Currently I have disabled dmraid and have the two disks running independently with zero errors. I'm keeping the contents mirrored with a cron job that basically does a 'cp -a / /mnt/sda' where sdc is the disk that is booted from and sda is mounted at /mnt/sda. This experience has raised a question that I can't find the answer to: "How does dmraid handle a bad block?" Also (hardware issues aside), is there anything from a kernel/drive controller standpoint that could be invoking the error? After running the disks independently for a week without a single error, I think I'll reassemble the array and rebuild it. Any other thoughts/suggestions? Obviously there was a bad block that developed on sda, but adding it to the bad block table fixed it. I have a pair of 750 G drives coming to replace this set, but I'm curious about the bad block handling with dmraid. If 1 bad block is enough to kill the array, then that's not a very robust system. The disks are both seagate 500G drives (ST3500641AS). The system hardware is: System Information Manufacturer: TYAN Computer Corp Product Name: S2865 BIOS Information Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD Version: 6.00 PG Release Date: 06/20/2005 Address: 0xE0000 Runtime Size: 128 kB ROM Size: 512 kB Characteristics: Processor Information Socket Designation: Socket 939 Type: Central Processor Family: Athlon 64 Manufacturer: AMD ID: 32 0F 02 00 FF FB 8B 17 Signature: Family 15, Model 35, Stepping 2 All thoughts welcomed... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Strange outpu from latest qemu-kvm
by Damjan Georgievski 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Just updated to qemu-kvm 0.12.1.2-1 here, and now when I start a VM I get this: $ qemu-kvm -m 384 -drive file=karmic.img,if=virtio,boot=on -vnc :0 -monitor unix:mon/karmick.sock,server,nowait -daemonize profiling:/home/tobias:Cannot create directory profiling:/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/vde2/trunk/src/vde2-2.2.2/src/lib/.libs/libvdeplug.gcda:Skip profiling:/home/tobias:Cannot create directory profiling:/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/vde2/trunk/src/vde2-2.2.2/src/common/.libs/cmdparse.gcda:Skip profiling:/home/tobias:Cannot create directory profiling:/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/vde2/trunk/src/vde2-2.2.2/src/common/.libs/canonicalize.gcda:Skip profiling:/home/tobias:Cannot create directory profiling:/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/vde2/trunk/src/vde2-2.2.2/src/lib/.libs/libvdeplug.gcda:Skip profiling:/home/tobias:Cannot create directory profiling:/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/vde2/trunk/src/vde2-2.2.2/src/common/.libs/cmdparse.gcda:Skip profiling:/home/tobias:Cannot create directory profiling:/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/vde2/trunk/src/vde2-2.2.2/src/common/.libs/canonicalize.gcda:Skip The VM seems to work fine otherwise. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Tiny webserver to run as root
by RedShift 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Hi all Does anyone have a suggestion for some software, a tiny webserver that is able to run as root and execute CGI scripts? It should be smaller than apache and preferably even smaller than lighttpd. It doesn't need a whole lot of features, it only needs to be able to execute CGI scripts. I have tried a few: nanoweb (which is written in php as well) but has some problems with CGI scripts and when it runs in multi process mode it brings the system load up to exactly 1.00. Nullhttpd, but it's old and unmaintained. Tinyhttpd isn't up for the job as well (kept crashing at times). Thanks, Best regards, Glenn

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[arch-general] Shutdown Issue
by GTR 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Hi I am using Gnome 2.28, and added the shutdown item to the panel. While using the shutdown button from the panel, the screen garbles up, and i don't see the normal shutdown messages, but the computer still shuts down normally. nothing is logged related to this. While using any other shutdown method (console, or even system -> shutdown), all the shutdown messages are displayed (the daemons switching off, etc) and the computer shuts down normally. I would like to know, what script does that button call, that probably leads to the above issue.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron
by Heiko Baums 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:52:45 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com>: > Though, I must admit, I did not see this email until after I replied. > yacron was not evaluated when we looked into this... From Jim's explanations I think that it could be worth testing yacron, too. Greetings, Heiko

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[arch-general] Replies on arch-general to dev emails (was: Cron)
by Dan McGee 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Heiko Baums <lists(a)baums-on-web.de> wrote: > > I again answer to arch-general due to write permissions. > You realize you don't need to say this *every single time* you answer an email from arch-dev-public? We do this (restrict who can post to that list) quite on purpose, and this is the defined method of answering these emails. Every dev subscribes to this list too so it isn't like your email is getting lost. -Dan

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron
by Heiko Baums 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Answering to arch-general again. ;-) Am Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:51:29 +0100 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck <dieter(a)plaetinck.be>: > When a crontab is missed due to system downtime, sometimes you want > the crontab to be done when the system boots up, but sometimes you do > not want that at all. (eg a cleanup crontab that should never run > during peak hours) > > would be nice if the choosen cron solution supports a certain marker > per cron entry where you can define the behavior you want. That's exactly what you can do with fcron. In crontab you have to explicitly tell fcron to run cronjobs which should have run during downtime at bootup. If I recall correctly you have to prefix these lines with an "@". Otherwise they are handled like in dcron. The scripts in /etc/cron.hourly etc. are executed at bootup if the system was down when they should be running. But you can delete or chmod 600 them or just comment the commands out. Greetings, Heiko

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cron
by Heiko Baums 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Am Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:23:28 -0500 schrieb Paul Mattal <paul(a)mattal.com>: > Is there also an issue we're trying to solve with anacron? Can't we > use bcron (or any other cron for that matter) and still use anacron > separately? > > I understand that fcron could theoretically do the work of both, but > don't see an inherent advantage over two separate tools which might > each be better at their own job. I again answer to arch-general due to write permissions. I vote for fcron because it has dcron and anacron features. Two separate packages is indeed a regression and not really KISS like because anacron can only do anacron and dcron can only do dcron while fcron can do both. And on a desktop system which doesn't run 24/7 you need both features at the same time. On servers which run 24/7 it doesn't harm if the cron daemon has anacron features, too. I'm using fcron since years and it just works. It runs every cronjob as soon as possible. If the system runs then it executes the cronjobs at that time which is configured. If the system is down then fcron will start the cronjobs as soon as possible, as soon as the system is up again. I don't know bcron and yacron but I doubt that they have anacron features. Also fcron supports the directories /etc/cron.hourly, /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly and /etc/cron.monthly. So it's very easy to configure cronjobs. No cryptical configuration file anymore. Just put a shell script into one of these directories and they will be executed regularly. The old configuration method is still possible. Greetings, Heiko

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Re: [arch-general] Looks like an AUR (web interface) bug?
by talki walki 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Loui Chang wrote: >I manually changed the ID. >The package should appear on the web site now. Thank you. I was wondering "who did the magic setting the category to system?" > How did you upload your package? slurpy -P -U <account> Without the -C option, it defaults category to NONE. I uploaded three packages in a row using this method, the other two were just fine though.

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[arch-general] Looks like an AUR (web interface) bug?
by talki walki 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Hi, all. The following page of msort in AUR says "Package details could not be found." http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33319 While one can fetch the package info using the rpc interface: wget 'http://aur.archlinux.org/rpc.php?type=search&arg=msort' -q -O- Also the tarball is available at http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/msort/msort.tar.gz and the package builds fine.

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[arch-general] [community] locke.suu.edu mirror missing packages between N and W/Z?
by Ng Oon-Ee 02 Jan '10

02 Jan '10

Hi, just did my update with yaourt. For [community[, it timed out for me from distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr and ftp.sh.cvut.cz, so I got [community] from locke.suu.edu Basically, after that yaourt checked the AUR for existance of all my [community] packages between letters N and W (I don't have any from X to Z so don't know if that's affected). Examples include openntpd, pulseaudio, powertop, pkgtools, reflector, schroot. Just did another resync (-Syy) and distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr works fine for the packages I mention. So its an issue with locke.suu.edu. Oh, btw, I'm on 64-bit.

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[arch-general] Autofs5 does not mount Nfs4 exports automatically
by Dieter Plaetinck 02 Jan '10

02 Jan '10

I have this problem for already about a year. hope someone can help me. See http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79513 for detailed problem description. thanks. Dieter

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[arch-general] Kernel panic with kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core]
by Heiko Baums 02 Jan '10

02 Jan '10

Hi, I already filed a bug report but thought it couldn't harm or even be good to post it to the mailing list, too. Since the update to kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 from [core] I can't boot this kernel anymore. I always get a kernel panic with these messages: Failed to execute /init Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.32-ARCH #1 Call Trace: [<ffffffff813301c2>] ? panic+0x8a/0x14b [<ffffffff8100a28d>] ? init_post+0xad/0x100 [<ffffffff81502747>] ? kernel_init+0x19d/0x1a8 [<ffffffff8101311a>] ? child_rip+0xa/0x20 [<ffffffff815025aa>] ? kernel_init+0x0/0x1a8 [<ffffffff81013110>] ? child_rip+0x0/0x20 I found out that the reason for this is an outdated package in [core]. I don't know yet which package exactly but I guess it's mkinitcpio. After upgrading the system to [testing] and generating a new kernel26.img the system boots again. So, please, either move the packages currently in [testing] to [core] or move kernel26 2.6.32.2-2 back to [testing]. The first would be the best solution I think. See also my bug report: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17649 Greetings, Heiko

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[arch-general] Happy new year 22 hours late :)
by Michel Di Croci 02 Jan '10

02 Jan '10

Happy new year everyone, especially to the developpers of this still up to date distro ;) Michel

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[arch-general] Gnote cannot run anymore, all of these happen in a sudden.
by LI Ye 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

Hi Listmates, Suddenly I met a problem with Gnote 0.7.0-1, it worked after the recent upgrade I think. However, it aborted unexpectly from the panel now, and run it through gnome-terminal gives this: [liye@thinkpad ~]$ gnote glibmm-ERROR **: unhandled exception (type std::exception) in signal handler: what: basic_string::substr aborting... Aborted pkill gnome-panel or re-login gnome didn't help. All other components of my desktop are updated to the latest stable versions. Any idea? Best Regards, -- LI Ye

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[arch-general] Kernel 2.6.32 Broken
by Steve Holmes 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hey, has anyone been experiencing any problems with the newest kernel26 package from Arch? this would be 2.6.32.2. After upgrading to it, my machine starts to boot but then dies. When I downgrade to kernel26-2.6.31.6, all works fine again. I'm a totally blind guy so haven't had a chance to get anyone to look at the screen for me but one thing sure, no messages get logged to /var/log/syslog or messages. Just thought I would check to see if I'm not alone with these kernel problems. For now, I'm gonna have to downgrade my kernel once again so at least my machine will work again. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLPARHWSjv55S0LfERA6yWAJ9dPBNCeoiyN8MMfs6GzXiuzhCD+gCgx+n4 RSalNMBb4zFAjag9b4x5arg= =Qozy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox and Kernel 2.6.32.2-2
by Ty John 31 Dec '09

31 Dec '09

Make sure you have kernel26-headers installed and rebuild using the guest additions from community. "Guillermo Leira" <gleira(a)gleira.com> wrote: >> I have just upgraded to this new kernel, and I have a "little" problem: I >> have an i686 Virtual Machine running under VirtualBox, on Windows XP. >Since >> this upgrade, as soon as I enter my password, the system gets completely >> locked. >> >> If I press Ctrl-Alt-F1, I can switch to tty1, but if I get back to login >> screen and try to login, the system locks immediately. >> >> I'm using gnome and GDM. I've been trying to uninstall >virtualbox-utilities, >> reinstall, etc, with no results. > >I have managed to completely uninstall virtualbox guest-additions, and now I >can login. After reinstalling guest-additions (the ones that come with >VirtualBox, because the package in community does not seem to work very >well, but this is another history), and some testing, I have discovered that >I can login if I disable gdm in rc.conf and call it from the command line. > >Best Regards, > >Guillermo Leira > > -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9. Please excuse my brevity.

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[arch-general] firewire_net, 2.6.32.2-2
by Milos Negovanovic 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

Hi all, after last kernel update my ethernet over firewire doesn't work any more. Module, firewire_net, is correctly loaded and new interface firewire0 shows up. I can ping other hosts but I can not establish any connections (http, irc, anything). Are new firewire drivers complete? Anyone else seeing this? Box in question is x86_64. Regards -- Milos Negovanovic milos.negovanovic(a)googlemail.com

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[arch-general] What ISO will load a kernel in an AMD K62/450?
by David C. Rankin 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

Guys, After the recent discussion about arch working well on old hardware, I decided to dump a suse 10.3 install on an old AMD K6-2/450 and install arch on it. I downloaded the net install iso i686. I knew if it was truly i686 it wouldn't install -- and it didn't. My question is which Arch download, if any, can install on this old hardware. (currently a great little fax server, backup DNS/dhcp box and 40G of storage.) Any help (or the right link) would be appreciated. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] mysqld args
by Trav 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

The past few updates i've noticed that $MYSQLD_ARGS specified in /etc/conf.d/mysqld isn't being used on /etc/rc.d/mysqld start.. is this a bug or is it used somewhere else? I've searched the init script and haven't seen any mention of the args at all. I've always just fixed it myself by adding $MYSQLD_ARGS after the --datadir command.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.2-2
by Tobias Powalowski 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

Hi guys, small rebuild, added Jan's intel i915 patch and changed radeon kms to be disabled by default. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16855 # added CONFIG_PM_DEBUG http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17106 # added CONFIG_MMIOTRACE Arch Linux changes: - splitted kernel-headers to extra package If you want to build external modules please install: pacman -S kernel26-headers Please change your PKGBUILDS to makedepend on this package. - added xen support to 64bit kernel - changed intel kms enabled by default - radeon kms is now disabled by default Please use the modeset option to enable it. - changed to new firewire subsystem: http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [PATCH] devtools: Make sure build files are owned by nobody
by Nezmer 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

makechrootpkg copies files to "$uniondir/build" after chowning the directory. This means those files are not owned by nobody. This yields to failure when the files are supposed to be dynamically edited. A common use-case is when we build from git or svn and we want $pkver to be upgraded dynamically. Signed-off-by: Nezmer <Nezmer(a)allurelinux.org> --- makechrootpkg | 3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/makechrootpkg b/makechrootpkg index 1d2282c..9e36f10 100755 --- a/makechrootpkg +++ b/makechrootpkg @@ -200,6 +200,9 @@ if [ -f "ChangeLog" ]; then cp ChangeLog "$uniondir/build/" fi +# Make sure "$uniondir/build/*" owned by nobody before we start building +chown -R nobody "$uniondir/build" + if ! grep "^nobody" "$uniondir/etc/sudoers" >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo "allowing 'nobody' sudo rights in the chroot" touch "$uniondir/etc/sudoers" -- 1.6.6

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[arch-general] libglew
by richard terry 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

Posted this to the gambas list as my current svn won't compile - they said I needed libglew but can't find it in the repos ?under another name? > Le samedi 26 décembre 2009 22:58:38, richard terry a écrit : > > Making all in opengl > > make[5]: Entering directory `/home/richard/gambas3- > > svn/src/trunk/gb.qt4/src/opengl' > > /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. > > - I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore - > > I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork - > > I/usr/include/QtSql -I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED > > -I/usr/include/QtCore - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL > > -pipe -Wall > > -fno-exceptions - Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g > > -Os -fno-omit-frame- pointer -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c > > -o main.lo main.cpp libtool: compile: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. > > -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED - DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore > > -I/usr/include/QtGui - > > I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/QtSql - > > I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui > > - I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value > > -fsigned- char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT > > main.lo -MD -MP - MF .deps/main.Tpo -c main.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o > > .libs/main.o > > In file included from main.cpp:29: > > CGLarea.h:30:21: error: GL/glew.h: No such file or directory > > make[5]: *** [main.lo] Error 1 > *************************************************** > Yes, now you need libglew package (and devel files of course) *************************************************** regards richard

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[arch-general] stellarium and x with intel 965
by Sergey Manucharian 24 Dec '09

24 Dec '09

Hi folks, Stellarium won't run properly in my ThinkPad R61 with Intel 965 graphic card. The main window with stars, labels, grids etc. looks fine, but all the dialogs and toolbars' icons are distorted and not "readable" at all. The screenshot is at [1]. stellarium 0.10.2-3 xorg-server 1.7.3.901-1 xorg driver "intel" I've checked it with the same configuration with different HW (EEE PC) - it works perfectly. Any ideas? Thanks, Sergey [1] http://ingeniware.com/downloads/images402b3d63aad79fe059b514174bffe4ae/stel…

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[arch-general] kernel26-2.6.32.2-1 -- Radeon module (EE) config/hal ... org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied
by David C. Rankin 24 Dec '09

24 Dec '09

Guys, Working between the radeon and radeonhd modules, I noticed a strange error as the last line in my Xorg.0.log today that caught me by surprise. It was a hal/DBus error that I haven't seen before. Strange, what is a hal/dbus error doing in my Xorg log? The Radeon driver seems to be working OK, but I would like to find out what is going wrong and how I can fix the system so I don't get this error anymore. The error is: (II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 381 x 238 (EE) config/hal: couldn't find input device: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied (Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=0 pid=16410 comm="/usr/bin/X) interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Manager" member="FindDeviceByCapability" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=4062 comm="/usr/sbin/hald))) The box is my Toshiba 205d x86_64 laptop w/Radeon RS690M. The full log is here: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/radeonhd/log/Xorg.0.22095221.log Anybody know what to do to figure out what is going on here? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] MAYDAY - drm/mesa/libgl/radeon updates - laptop stuck in 1152x864 - kdm locks on logout!
by David C. Rankin 24 Dec '09

24 Dec '09

Guys, I got bit bad tonight by the updates tonight. X starts but is stuck at 1152x864, if I log out, X freezes. Looks like bad libdrm and lib32-libdrm packages. Specifically, I upgraded: [2009-12-23 00:30] starting full system upgrade [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded libdrm (2.4.17-1 -> 2.4.17-2) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded libgl (7.6-2 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded ati-dri (7.6-2 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded lib32-libdrm (2.4.16-1 -> 2.4.17-2) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded lib32-libgl (7.6-2 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded lib32-mesa (7.6-2 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded mesa (7.6-2 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded system-config-printer-common (1.1.13-1 -> 1.1.15-1) [2009-12-23 00:31] upgraded system-config-printer-gnome (1.1.13-1 -> 1.1.15-1) Next logout, the machine changed from 1440x900 to 1152x864 (the initial frame buffer resolution). Currently I am not using KMS with the radeon driver due to the current driver/initrd issues. I tried using a minimal xorg.conf setting the preferred resolution to 1440x900 (like I have done before to switch between the radeon/radeonhd drivers). X crashed immediately. Yes I had screens defined. X always started just fine with this xorg before. This is a short log: (this is the complete Xorg.0.log) X.Org X Server 1.7.3.901 (1.7.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-12-11 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-ARCH x86_64 Current Operating System: Linux alchemy 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 20 10:01:30 CET 2009 x86_64 Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/b004715c-1666-458a-b827-2bbb1d4a735e ro Build Date: 12 December 2009 08:39:02PM <snipped the definitions> Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. (WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor (WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor OK, so I had 2 choices, either try KMS with the nonworking drm or downgrade. I decided to downgrade. So I tried to downgrade with: pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/libdrm-2.4.17-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/libgl-7.6.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-7.6.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/lib32-libdrm-2.4.16-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/lib32-libgl-7.6.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/lib32-mesa-7.6.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/mesa-7.6.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz Which failed dependencies with mesa/libmesa requiring libdrm/lib32-libdrm > or = 2.4.17-2. HUH?? Deps whacked somewhere, I just upgraded from 2.4.17-1 and it was working fine... So I just eliminated the libdrm/lib32-libdrm packages and downgraded leaving drm the way mesa/libmesa wanted it. (Note the different downgrade times for libdrm below) X was still stuck in 1152x864, this caused me to suspect libdrm was the problem. So I went ahead and downgraded libdrm/lib32-drm with pacman -U --nodeps and then rebooted --> BING0 right back to 1440x900. Some notes on the log for the downgrade. The downgrade log looks weird to me. Maybe that's the way it should look, but I would expect correct version numbers: [2009-12-23 02:00] upgraded libgl (7.6.1-1 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 02:00] upgraded ati-dri (7.6.1-1 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 02:00] upgraded lib32-libgl (7.6.1-1 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 02:00] upgraded lib32-mesa (7.6.1-1 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 02:00] upgraded mesa (7.6.1-1 -> 7.6.1-1) [2009-12-23 02:04] upgraded libdrm (2.4.17-2 -> 2.4.17-1) [2009-12-23 02:04] upgraded lib32-libdrm (2.4.17-2 -> 2.4.16-1) I may have missed some changelog that says change your config to XYZ for these packages, but honestly it just looks like this set of updates isn't quite done cooking yet. Let me know if you need for info, etc. I'm glad to provide logs, etc. I'll also go ahead and open a ticket if you think it is necessary. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Xorg changes / DRM modules
by Andreas Radke 23 Dec '09

23 Dec '09

I've updated the git packages for nouveau and ati ddx driver packages in testing. I also updated the nouveau-drm package. This required to add the new nouveau-firmware package. It will be also needed to use kernel nouveau-drm module that will be introduced with kernel 2.6.33. I will keep updating the separate nouveua-drm module for a while to get features and fixes faster than in Linus tree. The firmware will probably also result in loading issues in early kms mode. We might think about recommending late mode for now. libdrm has been updated to 2.4.17 - this is breaking all radeon 3d stuff and will require changes in MESA when I understand the upstream devs right. Mesa7.7 is expected in a few days anyways and should make Radeon 3d stuff working again after a few late commits (7.7rc4 doesn't build with new libdrm). Other drivers should still work. Please test them. Radeon kms is still buggy like hell and unusable for my RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] card. It makes X and the whole system freeze instantly when moving windows around or when I try to start 3d apps. Sometimes even at Xorg start at all. This has been introduced with 2.6.32 kernels. Upstream recommends to try the various drm trees: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/40626 Any opinions from other ati users what branch is the most stable and useful these days? I'm thinking about adding a radeon-drm kernel module package to solve the tons of speed and stability issues. As already written on the closed devel list, I'd like to get help for these packages from other devs and community members. Whoever is well informed in Xorg/kernel drm development and wants to help to stabilize our drivers please contact me. -Andy

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[arch-general] Where'd the media:/ kioslave go in KDE4?
by David Rosenstrauch 23 Dec '09

23 Dec '09

Anyone know where the "media:/" kioslave has gone? When I enter that into konqueror it tells me "Protocol not supported media". For that matter, "system:/" and a few others seem to be missing as well. Am I missing some packages? Or did these go the way of the dodo in KDE4? Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] [pkgstats] Patch to allow pkgstats to submit info through a proxy (if this is setted on http_proxy)
by Angel Velásquez 23 Dec '09

23 Dec '09

Hi, I've been trying to submit my stats to the statistics page [1], then I realized that I wasn't submitting anything (I had pkgstats running on a cron). Then I decided to find the reason and it's simply I am behing a noisy and non-transparent proxy (ISA Server which is even worst). So, I decided to do a little patch to pkgstats, I've tested and now it's working .. (I am checking if the http_proxy env var is empty and else I am setting a variable called prox which have the value of the proxy). Just that ;), patch attached [1] https://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Xorg changes / DRM modules
by Heiko Baums 23 Dec '09

23 Dec '09

Writing again to arch-general because of write permissions. Am Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:21:03 +0100 schrieb Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de>: > The sad part is that we leave all people with modern Ati cards in the > dark until upstream declares their code as stable. This will make them > going back to software rasterizer and either force them to use the > closed source driver or use weird self made git packages from AUR. Doesn't matter. A stable running system is better than new features which don't work yet, lead to regular crashes and make a system unusable. Some people need a stable system for working and need to trust in the stable repos. > Because I'm also affected with my weird X200m card I'm still looking > for a good solution how to offer a good set of binary packages people > can use to try modern code. I could do this on my own like all other > people from AUR but we could also setup an additional unstable repo at > Gerolde. I could do this also in my public dir. I'd prefer to have > people using one set of codebase for reporting bugs upstream. What do > you think? Aren't there already git versions for these packages in AUR? If you want to provide binary packages for them you could just move them to community or extra. But keep the names e.g. mesa-git, libdrm-git etc. and add a provides and conflicts variable to the PKGBUILDs (e.g. provides=libdrm and conflicts=libdrm). And by default (e.g. with pacman -S xorg) the stable packages are installed and if someone wants to test the unstable packages he can simply install the git packages. You could also add a new group xorg-git. In this case there should also a conflicts variable be added to the PKGBUILDs of the stable packages (conflicts=libdrm-git). I think with this solution everyone could be happy, people who need a stable system and people who want to test the latest unstable versions. And it has the advantage that people can easily switch between the stable and the unstable packages depending on how those packages work. When the new features go into the stable upstream packages the git versions could simply be removed from the repos. Greetings, Heiko

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[arch-general] A universal Operating System API - why don't we have it?
by RedShift 22 Dec '09

22 Dec '09

Hi all It dawned on my that lots of industries have standards and companies generally keep to them. For example slabs of aluminium have standard sizes, building materials have well defined specifications, or take electrical components: there's a huge list of standardized components. You can expect between 220 and 240 VAC from your wall socket, fuses have standard formats and ratings, 1 meter here is exactly the same as 1 meter in another country, etc... Even CD's, which have been around for decades by now, have always been created using the same format (albeit extended somewhat, over time, but a normal CD pressed now should still play in a CD player that's 20 years old). It allows for a very competitive market where choices are made based on price, quality, availability, etc... Why doesn't the computer business have something similar? Sure processors are interchangeable in a limited way, we use standardized RAM, standard interfaces for accessing our peripherals, etc... But not when it comes to software. Why don't we have one universal API that works on every operating system? Yes there is libc, the language C is defined "in some way", but I'm talking about stuff that would make applications 100% portable. Things like enumerating all hardware devices, configuring a network interface, drawing a window, ejecting the CD-ROM drive, getting notified about new hardware plugged in, etc... It's different on every operating system. You cannot write a driver for Linux and expect it to work on FreeBSD. You cannot write an application for windows and expect it to work on Linux. When you buy a piece of hardware you usually hope for the best that it'll work out-of-the-box including all "extra" features. So why is that? Why hasn't someone stepped up and even try and create a universal operating system API? Is it because the computer business is still a "child" in some way, compared to other industries? Just a thought. Glenn

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[arch-general] Kernel 2.6.32
by Frank Hale 22 Dec '09

22 Dec '09

I was using the testing kernel 2.6.32 without an issue but then when the kernel went to core my system would no longer boot. It would start to boot half way then just go dead. I don't have any error messages to post because the screen went blank. Grub was working fine as far as I can tell. I had to use the Arch live CD to revert kernels back to an earlier version. Has anyone been having issues with the stable kernel 2.6.32? Like I said, 2.6.32 from testing worked fine. Thanks.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] nano 2.2.1-1
by Heiko Baums 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

Am Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:09:05 +0100 schrieb Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de>: > note: since 2.2.0 nano failed to open PKGBUILDs for me. after removing > old /etc/nanorc and replacing it with the new one it works again. I'm answering to arch-general because I can't write to arch-dev-public. This issue is with the file /usr/share/nano/arch.nanorc. I haven't looked at it but after disabling it nano works again. Greetings, Heiko

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

Hi guys, Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16855 # added CONFIG_PM_DEBUG http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17106 # added CONFIG_MMIOTRACE Arch Linux changes: - splitted kernel-headers to extra package If you want to build external modules please install: pacman -S kernel26-headers Please change your PKGBUILDS to makedepend on this package. - added xen support to 64bit kernel - changed intel kms enabled by default - changed to new firewire subsystem: http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Automount
by Baho Utot 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

New install using the latest USB install image. I am having trouble with automounting in KDE both usb and dvd/cd roms This is the error from an error dialog box Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.9" (uid=1000 pid=4563 comm="kded [kdeinit] --new-startup) interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member="Mount" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=4323 comm="/usr/sbin/hald)) I have looked at the wiki Hal and haven't figured this out, I am of the option that this is related to consolekit, Is there a wiki entry for consolekit ? I havn't found one. Also the newer version of cups doesn't allow me to setup the duplexer on my HP LaserJet 2300d, the older one always worked. Thanks for your help

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[arch-general] Thunderbird bugging with Lightning + Enigmail
by Paulo Santos 20 Dec '09

20 Dec '09

Hello list, After doing the last Thunderbird update from 3.0-1 to 3.0-2 (x86_64), with the added Lightning add-on, my menus don't work very well [1]. If I disable either Lightning or Enigmail they work, they just don't work when the add-ons are loaded together. I've started up Thunderbird from the console to see if I get any output and enabled debug on Enigmail but apparently nothing goes wrong. The problem is that I have no idea where to file a bug report... Arch, Enigmail, Lightning or Thunderbird? Is anyone having this issue? Best regards, Paulo Santos [1] http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/442/thunderbirdbug.png

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[arch-general] Good press at distrowatch.com
by David C. Rankin 19 Dec '09

19 Dec '09

Guys, Probably old news to most, but I was very pleased to see the good press Arch got from distrowatch.com this week. See: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091214#news The article reads: <quote> With Arch Linux having become such a popular distro, often praised for its rolling-release model of installing once and keeping it updated forever, we thought it would be a good time to take another look at Archiso-live. Archiso-live is an Arch Linux live CD that boots into an Xfce desktop and has a graphical system installer. In the earlier releases the installer did not work correctly, but the more recent ones come with a much improved version. We installed in on a test machine and can confirm that it was able to transfer the entire live CD onto a hard disk partition with no problems. Of course, if you install Arch Linux this way, you'll be "cheating", since easy, click-and-point installation isn't part of the "Arch way" of doing things. Nevertheless, as a method of testing this exciting distro, the "Archiso-live way" is a great time-saver. The latest version at the time of writing is 20091208 and it can be downloaded from here: archiso-live-2009-12-08.iso (685MB, MD5). </quote> Good job guys. Another testament to wise decision making, good distro management, and smart devs ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default
by Jürgen Hagemann 19 Dec '09

19 Dec '09

The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default. Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1&pagenum=1 This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it. Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building... Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized. So, on non-english systems people have a "language mix" in TB... -- Regards Juergen

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[arch-general] Firefox Themes Will Not Install / Disabled - Unsecure Extenstion Updates
by David C. Rankin 18 Dec '09

18 Dec '09

Guys, After the latest firefox updates, most of my themes were disabled and new themes would not install. After the automatic update check tried to install the Foxide Graphite theme, I found out why. During the install, I received a messages telling me that firefox would not install the theme because it did not provide a secure update path. Digging a little bit disclosed the following: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Unable_to_install_themes_or_extensions_-_Firefox Unsecured updating Firefox 3 and above: Starting in Firefox 3, if an add-on does not provide a secure method of auto-updating then, by default, Firefox will refuse to install the add-on. If you have add-ons already installed that are insecure in this way, they will be automatically disabled. [6] Add-ons from AMO (https://addons.mozilla.org/) and other secured sites are not a problem; for add-ons that do provide a secure updating method, advanced users can add the preference extensions.checkUpdateSecurity (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkUpdateSecurity) and set it to false (not recommended). See this article: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Extension_Versioning%2C_Update_and_Com… and bug 378216 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378216) for more information. For testing purposes only, I added extensions.checkUpdateSecurity (booleen = false) to about:config and magically, all of my themes were working again. (Note: this is not advisable due to security concerns, use with discretion) (ps - I know this is a cross post ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] Kernel 2.6.32 and Radeon KMS
by David C. Rankin 18 Dec '09

18 Dec '09

On 12/17/2009 07:52 PM, crdaley(a)gmail.com wrote: > Are you sure the problem lies within the driver itself? The fact that > you can't locate a regression with git bisect leads me to believe the > issue would be with some other software, and with so much graphics work > being done in so many different area areas it would very well be > possible. Off the top of my head it could also be in mesa, the kernel, > or X.Org. Yes, I'm sure it is the driver. I haven't completed the bisecting despite having spent hours on it. With the driver there is no way to automate the process other than building, installing, restarting X and checking and then marking good/bad. To my shagrin, there were only 90+ commits within the good/bad window I have. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Kernel 2.6.32 and Radeon KMS
by Gabriel Morrison Lima Dantas 18 Dec '09

18 Dec '09

Hi, I installed kernel26 and kernel26-firmware from testing, and I'm experiencing some problems with KMS. During system initialization, the system requests the firmware radeon/R300_cp.bin, waits a couple of seconds and then proceeds normal initialization. But when I log into X, DRI isn't enabled. Checking dmesg, I see that the kernel couldn't load R300 firmware, therefore disabling GPU acceleration. My problem is the same of this post: http://old.nabble.com/kernel-2.6.32-experiences-td26458040.html. Thomas said that mkinitcpio automatically inserts firmware listed in modinfo module in the initramfs image. When I run modinfo radeon | grep R300, it shows me 'firmware: radeon/R300_cp.bin'. So it should be available to kernel at the time of requesting it, shouldn't it? Has someone any idea to help solving that problem? Thanks in advance. -- Gabriel Morrison

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[arch-general] Udev rules
by Majikinszzz 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

Hi I'm coming from an ubuntu background where this line in the udev.rule file worked. SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0fd1", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", ATTR{bConfigurationValue}=="1",RUN+="/bin/bash -c 'echo 3 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/%b/bConfigurationValue'" However this does not work in Arch and I'm really struggling to understand the udev wiki and udev rules - its going a bit over my head at the moment. I have experimented with trying this line from looking at other udev rules: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1000", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0fd1", RUN+="/bin/bash -c 'echo 3 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/%b/bConfigurationValue'" the device is then recognised but /var/log/messages then shows and endless looping of the device be connected and disconnected. I'm not sure what to do. Please can someone help? M Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!

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[arch-general] Udev rules
by Majikinszzz 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

Hi I'm coming from an ubuntu background where this line in the udev.rule file worked. SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0fd1", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", ATTR{bConfigurationValue}=="1",RUN+="/bin/bash -c 'echo 3 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/%b/bConfigurationValue'" However this does not work in Arch and I'm really struggling to understand the udev wiki and udev rules - its going a bit over my head at the moment. I have experimented with trying this line from looking at other udev rules: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1000", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0fd1", RUN+="/bin/bash -c 'echo 3 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/%b/bConfigurationValue'" the device is then recognised but /var/log/messages then shows and endless looping of the device be connected and disconnected. I'm not sure what to do. Please can someone help? M Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!

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[arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view
by David C. Rankin 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

Guys, If any of you had done as I did and abandon thunderbird in favor of another mua and haven't looked at thunderbird 3.0 yet, you are in for a real treat if you view messages with threading. There is a new thread summary you are presented with when you select a collapsed thread that displays the first 3-4 lines for each message in the thread -- and -- gives you the option to delete the entire thread after reviewing the summary with a single click. Very handy when needing to quickly pick through a long thread to find the relevant info: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/moz/tbird-thread-summary.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Quanta - Installed w/kde4, but ssh/sftp/fish upload choices are gone??
by David C. Rankin 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

Listmates, With my latest install, I didn't install kde3, but I did install quanta since that is what I use to maintain my home site. Tonight is the first time I've actually used quanta since the fresh install of arch to my laptop. I didn't notice the problem until I went to upload changes and got an error about my server being unavailable?? Checking further in 'Project -> Upload Project -> Edit' I notice the only transfer methods available in the listbox are 'file', 'ftp', 'webdav', 'webdavs'. Err... no ssh, fish or sftp anymore? I suspect the kde3 kio-slaves are missing and that quanta hasn't been updated to make use of the kde4 stuff. Obviously, I can use ftp... until I tried to. When I pressed upload, it was like I was trying to upload 200Mib instead of the actual 20k that needed. It was simply crawling along. Has anyone managed to get the project -> update configured to work correctly in quanta on kde4. If you did, how? What's the trick? I would hate to have to install kde3 just to get the quanta upload feature back. What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.1-1
by Tobias Powalowski 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

Hi guys, Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16855 # added CONFIG_PM_DEBUG http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17106 # added CONFIG_MMIOTRACE Arch Linux changes: - splitted kernel-headers to extra package If you want to build external modules please install: pacman -S kernel26-headers Please change your PKGBUILDS to makedepend on this package. - added xen support to 64bit kernel - changed intel kms enabled by default - changed to new firewire subsystem: http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] kernel26 in [current] cries for love when new kernel version hits [testing]
by Emmanuel Benisty 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Hi, As far as I can remember i.e. quite far but also super blurry, as soon as a new kernel version hits [testing], the [current] version won't be updated anymore (it may have happened when _huge_ security issues had been discovered). Today, we're stuck at .31.6 when .31.8 is out. Not a complain as I have all the tools to build any kernel I'd like to run (1 machine running Arch stock kernel out of 4 anyway) but well, just sayin'... Cheers.

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[arch-general] cpufrequtils dead or alive ?
by Xavier 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

I just noticed a bump of cpufrequtils to 006-2 : http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/cpufrequtils/ What do you do with the bugs ? http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10959 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14083 Both are valid bugs, annoying, and trivial to fix ...

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[arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?
by Marti Raudsepp 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Hi arch-general, I'd like to point your attention to the Inkscape package: Inkscape version 0.47 was released on November 25. This is a very significant release that many Inkscape users have been waiting patiently. However, the Arch Linux Inkscape maintainer, Tobias Kieslich, seems to be missing in action. Looking at his FlySpray activity, his last comment seems to be dated November 18. Can anyone please look into resolving this? Regards, Marti

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[arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?
by Magnus Therning 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine. I can report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with problems :-) So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing out i686/x86_64? That would at least take care of this problem for the system repos. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe

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[arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Hi, fellow archers. I've created a new email with a new subject, so that who wants to ignore this completely, can do it easily. The recent past discussions about DBus got me thinking about an unanswered question: what is technically wrong with DBus? After some time researching about that, I can't find that answer by myself. DBus is just a way to make applications communicate. It can be used in several languages, namely C, C++, Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, and many more. There are tools for it in bash, although there's some limitations with that, but is very easy to do something fast in python or perl or ruby or... It (DBus) has some interesting mechanisms to activate daemons just when needed. I find this feature very interesting, so that you only spend the resources when you really need. One restriction is that it is not network enabled, so it only works locally. But in the home page, there is a invitation to improve that situation (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DBusRemote) Anyway, I would like to read what others have to say about DBus, but please give techinical reasons. I don't want to know who likes and who dislikes DBus. And I don't have anything against who dislikes DBus. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Thanks. -- R: Porque prejudica a legibilidade do texto. P: Porque é ruim colocar a resposta de um e-mail antes do texto citado? ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto -------------------------------------------

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32-1
by Emmanuel Benisty 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Thomas Bächler wrote: >> >> Allan McRae schrieb: >>> >>> That works for me. I initially thought it was strange that it came on >>> but now I see why. extreme-tuxracer is giving me (>50%) more FPS with this >>> update. >> >> Intel DRM has been improved, I noticed that too - probably due to >> framebuffer compression. >> >> KMS is enabled by default because the next intel driver version will >> require it to work. > > With KMS on, my screen flickers every 20sec or so. Tried with no xorg.conf > and the same thing. I even got some sort of yellow/orange screen of death. > I did not use KMS with 2.6.31 so this may not be kernel related. I'll look > into it later but disabling kms from the grub prompt works fine... It's definitely a kernel regression, I'm having the exact same issue with .32 only (using KMS since few kernel releases)

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[arch-general] libmsn-4.0-1 & kopete
by miquel canes 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Hi all, Kopete msn plugin doesn't work with libmsn-4.0-1. Maybe kopete needs recompile with this new version. Kopete version: 0.80.2. Greetings Miquel

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[arch-general] Bug on Initrd scripts
by goodmenzy＠gmail.com 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Hi all Anyone has intesting about bug 17474 (at http://bugs.archlinux.org/) ? When a kernel param begins with digital, the initrd scrip (/lib/initcpio/init) will fail. At least one such kernel param is found: "8250.nr_uarts=xxx" Because the 8250 is a driver name and that driver is compiled into the kernel( not as a module),so the only way to set param of it is by kernel cmdline. But in initrc scripts, the "case" block does handle that correctly. I beg the maintainer fix this bug, please.

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg and long union unmount time
by Evangelos Foutras 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hello, When I'm building a package using makechrootpkg and the build fails or I happen to interrupt it, sometimes it gets stuck at the "cleaning up unioned mounts" stage for a very long time (from several seconds up to a few minutes). During this time, the disk shows intense activity. Does this happen to others too? Any idea why this is occurring and how to prevent it?

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[arch-general] suggestion for pacman: Recommended packages.
by Hussam Al-Tayeb 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

The current case for many packages that use optdepends is as follows. Let's say a package called package1 installs some extra binaries or plugins. Those extra not so used binaries or plugins have extra dependencies (let's call them libsomething) marked as optdepends. so on installation pacman will say something: optional dependency: libsomething needed for package1 plugins to work. How about instead those extra binary files or plugins are split into another package called package1-plugins and have libsomething as plain dependency? Then on package1 installation, pacman should say something like: Recommended packages: package1-plugins for blah blah functionality. A good example is the pacman package itself which has an optional dependency on python for rankmirrors script. Maybe we could split it into a separate pacman-rankmirrors which depends on python the when a user installs/upgrades pacman package, he/she is prompted for recommended package pacman-rankmirrors for blah blah functionality. pacman-rankmirrors would depend on python. I think this is a better and cleaner approach. Obviously not every package can use that approach but it will clean some optdepends and remove some ldd errors because of uninstalled optdepends. Another thing, anyway to make pacman -Rns somepackage also remove optional dependencies that no other package uses?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Packaging Chromium for [extra]
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > OK, just uploaded -2 to testing; let me know, if it does work or not. Now it is working with youtube. A local site with flash videos continues to work. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto -------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] kde4/kmail slow - anybody else notice or is it just me?
by David C. Rankin 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Guys, Quick request for confirmation. I generally have used tbird in the past but when doing the kde4.3beta tests, I resolved to use kmail and I have pretty much stuck with it since May. The issue I am seeing is a slowdown in kmail that I guess is 4.3.4 related. Specifically I see a slowdown when I access a mail folder containing >2000 messages or so. Each time I leave and return to a folder (my arch folder for example) kmail reloads and re-sorts the entire folder taking some 20+ seconds each time. It is like all 'folder state' caching (for lack of better words) has been turned off. (if that is possible) Anybody else seeing a slow down in kmail? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] Packaging Chromium for [extra]
by Denis A. Altoé Falqueto 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

>For some unknown reason the current package crashes with flash sometimes. Any >ideas? Or maybe it's just me? It's happening with me too... :( Youtube crashes in the pages that contains videos. But another page (a brazilian news site with flash videos too) works fine. -- A: Because it obfuscates the reading. Q: Why is top posting so bad? ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto -------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] iwl5000 issues
by Rafa Grimán 10 Dec '09

10 Dec '09

Hi :) Got a Lenovo T400 laptop with an Intel 5100 wireless card, lspci: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection Which was working until I updated my system. Kernel version: # uname -a Linux currotop 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 10 19:01:40 CET 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Have the following packages installed: # pacman -Q | grep -iE "(kernel|iw|wireless)" iwlwifi-5000-ucode 8.24.2.12-2 kernel-headers 2.6.31.5-1 kernel26 2.6.31.6-1 kernel26-firmware 2.6.31-1 wireless_tools 29-3 Modules that are loaded: # lsmod | grep -i iwl iwlagn 132576 0 iwlcore 126496 1 iwlagn mac80211 179312 2 iwlagn,iwlcore led_class 5160 2 thinkpad_acpi,iwlcore cfg80211 104344 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211 dmesg says this: # dmesg | grep -i iwl iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27ks iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel Corporation iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54 iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: irq 31 for MSI/MSI-X phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs' Nothing weird in /var/log/messages.lo: Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27ks Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel Corporation Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54 Dec 8 14:01:25 currotop kernel: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels Following the wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#iwl3945.2C_iwl4965_and_iwl5000- series ifconfig -a gives this: wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1E:65:CF:B5:7A BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-1E-65-CF- B5-7A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 [NO FLAGS] MTU:0 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) I get the following errors: # ifconfig wlan0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 # iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down Seems the firmware doesn't get loaded, but I have the firmware package installed as listed previously, checking: # pacman -Ql iwlwifi-5000-ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/firmware/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/licenses/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/licenses/iwlwifi-5000-ucode/ iwlwifi-5000-ucode /usr/share/licenses/iwlwifi-5000-ucode/LICENSE ls -lha /lib/firmware/iwl* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 337K 2009-11-24 04:08 /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 345K 2009-11-24 04:08 /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode my /etc.rc.conf MODULES line holds this: MODULES=(... blkcipher aes arc4 ecb cryptomgr crypto_algapi iwlagn ...) I have been reading the forums and found these 2 links: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77416 seems that okczenaj solved the issue reinstalling his system and installing: iw iwlwifi-5000-ucode wireless_tools packages http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62532 seems iggyst00ge solved his issues by dropping Arch Linux 64 Is there any way to solve this issue without having to reinstall my laptop? As I said before, my wireless was working until I updated. Don't know for sure which package broke wireless connectivity. TIA Rafa -- "We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love." rgriman(a)skype.com rgriman(a)jabberes.org Happily using KDE 4.3.3 :)

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[arch-general] ftp.archlinux.org rate limiting
by Phillip Smith 10 Dec '09

10 Dec '09

Hi all, Could someone share the details of how the 50kbps rate-limit is implemented on ftp.archlinux.org? I know Google gives me plenty of results for rate-limiting with iptables and tc but I've never had much success with tc, and the ftp.archlinux.org rate-limiting seems to work perfectly... So why try reinventing the wheel? :) Cheers, ~p

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Packaging Chromium for [extra]
by Flavio Costa 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ionut Biru <ibiru(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 12/09/2009 02:47 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > >> Hi devs, >> >> I did have a closer look at chromium recently and it did improve a lot. >> Even >> though it's called "beta" it is really usable and feature complete. >> >> There is quite a high demand for it (the binary version in AUR has neraly >> 800 >> votes). I would like to make a peoper package for it and provide that in >> our >> repo. >> >> The AUR packages are either svn trunk builds or repackaged ubuntu debs >> with >> ugly symlinks to libs with other so names. >> >> My idea is to build a tar out of their svn tag and build a clean package >> with >> that. >> >> What do you think? (it's about chromium btw. and not Chrome which is >> Google's >> build with some "extras") >> >> > i don't have any objections about having a chromium package in our repos. > Replying to Arch General since I don't have permission to post on Arch-Dev-Public. I guess this article may be useful: http://lwn.net/Articles/364528/rss It's about some thoughts of a Fedora Packager trying to package Chromium. -- Flávio Coutinho da Costa

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[arch-general] Different local setting of rc.conf and X
by 大熊 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

I need en_US.UTf-8 under console and zn_CN.UTF-8 under X So rc.conf: LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8" and ~/.xprofile: exprot LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 But after I login, the desktop is still en_US, Why?

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[arch-general] testing: xf86-video-ati, libdrm - transparency lost in kde4 w/compiz
by David C. Rankin 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

Guys, Testing xf86-video-ati-6.12.99.git20091207 libdrm-2.4.16-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz I noticed that the plasma-panel has lost transparency in kde4 when compiz is enabled. It's not uncommon for me to need to restart plasma-desktop to regain transparency, but with these two packages installed, even that doesn't work. I use a small rsplasma script to restart the desktop: 01:33 alchemy:~> cat bin/rsplasma #!/bin/bash kbuildsycoca4 kquitapp plasma-desktop >/dev/null 2>&1 kstart plasma-desktop & >/dev/null 2>&1 This is which radeon loaded in rc.conf due to the current hang in used with KMS. Anybody else see this? Everything else with the driver and drm seems to work OK, but I haven't rebuilt the initramfs for KMS early yet (waiting on more info on the driver issue). Do you want me to try that?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] scripts to analyze and manage /var/cache/pacman/pkg for installed/uninstalled & gen install scr for uninstalled
by David C. Rankin 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

Guys, With a number of arch boxes now, I routinely rsync the package cache from box to box for updates, etc. Today what started out as a "1-liner" to show what scripts in /var/cache/pacman/pkg were installed, uninstalled (what I called orphaned) and then to create summary files and create a script to install the orphans -- well -- turned into somewhat of a longer script that I thought I would pass along. The script 'chkinstpkgs.sh' does just that. Check the installed packages and give you a summary of what is going on with your package cache. I'm sure I just reinvented the wheel, but it was fun nonetheless. The script is at: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/scripts/chkinstpkgs.sh I left all my development commented out at the end of the file -- there were some neat parse parameter substitutions, etc.. that I ultimately didn't use that might be helpful for anyone wanting to mess with managing their package cache, or at least provide a "go-by" for anyone interested in learning a bit more bash. The -h | --help option displays a short help: 18:30 alchemy:~/scr/arch> sh chkinstpkgs.sh -h Usage: chkinstpkgs.sh [package-dir] [orphans-file] [installed-file] [install-orphans-file] chkinstpkgs.sh checks all packages in 'package-dir' to see whether the file is installed or whether the package is an orphan (exists in 'package-dir' but isn't installed). Results are printed to the screen and saved in the users home directory as shown below: Where the defaults are: package-dir=/var/cache/pacman/pkg/ orphans-file=~/pkgs-orphans.txt installed-file=~/pkgs-installed.txt install-orphans-file=~/pkgs-install-orphans.sh Options: -h | --help display usage help and exit -s | --summary display packages totals, installed, orphaned and exit The -s | --summary just gives a numeric summary of the installed/orphaned: 18:30 alchemy:~/scr/arch> sh chkinstpkgs.sh -s Determining installed/orphaned packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg... Initializing the package-information arrays Checking installed packages Total Number of Packages : 2072 Total Number Installed : 1626 Total Number Orphaned : 446 Just running the whole script produces a complete summary on the screen and also creates the summary files shown above under the defaults: 18:31 alchemy:~/scr/arch> head ~/pkgs-orphans.txt error: package "a2ps" not found error: package "acct" not found error: package "acpi" not found error: package "acpid" not found <snip> 18:42 alchemy:~/scr/arch> head ~/pkgs-installed.txt Installed Packages - 12/07/09 a2ps-4.14-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz a52dec-0.7.4-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz aalib-1.4rc5-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz abs-2.3.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz acct-6.3.2-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz <snip> 18:42 alchemy:~/scr/arch> head ~/pkgs-install-orphans.sh pacman -Sy a2ps acct acpi acpid acpitool acpitool agg archlinux-menus archlinux-menus b43-fwcutter bc bind blas bridge-utils capi4k-utils cyrus-sasl cyrus-sasl-plugins db4.5 dbus-qt3 ddcxinfo-arch dhcp dmapi dmraid dovecot dvd-slideshow filelight flashplugin font-bitstream-speedo font-bitstream-speedo foomatic-db foomatic-db-nonfree <snip> Just delete the ones you don't want to install (beats creating the list from scratch) The script takes ~ 30 seconds per 1000 packages to run. It took about a minute to complete on my laptop. Enjoy. Other package cache scripts available: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/scripts/fduparchpkg http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/scripts/fduppkg The above scripts remove duplicate packages from the package cache and move them to /home/backup/pkg-old and /home/backup/pkg-older. The workhorse is fduppkg and fduparchpkg is just a wrapper that calls fduppkg. I just create links to the files in /usr/local/bin: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Dec 7 18:22 fduparch -> /home/david/scr/pm/fduparchpkg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 5 02:21 fduppkg -> /home/david/scr/pm/fduppkg then just call fduparch and it will move all duplicates from /var/cache/pacman/pkg to /home/backup/pkg-old and then remove all duplicates (newly created) from /home/backup/pkg-old and move them to /home/backup/pkg-older. That way you always have current packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg, a clean set of the next most recent packages in /home/backup/pkg-old and the package dump of /home/backup/pkg-older where you can keep as many as you want. One primary benefit of moving the packages to /home/backup is it frees up space on your / partition as well as cleaning up /var/cache/pacman. I have posted the dup scripts before, but these have a few updates that optimize things better to cut down on runtime. Even with several thousand packages, the scripts run in about a minute as well. Last note: for any Archers who would like to dig into bash scripting a little more. I like to think these scripts have a lot of cool stuff in them (at least I think so...) and provide a good reference for loops, arrays, array and loop index manipulation for optimizations, redirection, subshells, functions, parameter substitution and substring extraction that are fairly good tools to put in your *nx toolbox. Believe it or not, I actually take some time to comment the scripts with that purpose in mind. (and so I can remember what the hell I was thinking a year from now...) For all you gurus out there, if you happen to look at the scripts and see things I could do better, I welcome the feedback because I'm always open to adding new tools to my toolbox as well ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Mkinitcpio and tuxonice?
by Ng Oon-Ee 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

Hi all, I've been holding the mkinitcpio package due to http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15240 A quick look into testing shows that I won't be able to update the 2.6.32 kernel due to dependencies on klib invalidating my 'old' mkinitcpio package. Unfortunately I'm stuck here, since without this 'old' package for mkinitcpio (0.5.24-1) I'm unable to resume from hibernate in tuxonice. Any suggestions?

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[arch-general] Installing Arch Linux w/ RAID
by Carlos Williams 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

I have been struggling with successfully installing Arch Linux on my PC with just two S-ATA drives. I am using the LiveCD / Netinst "2009.08". The only partition I want for RAID is simply /home. I have two identical disks and am partition as follows: /dev/sda1 = 2048 (bootable) */boot* /dev/sda2 = 40960 */* /dev/sda3 = 102400 *RAID* /dev/sdb1 = 2048 *Swap* /dev/sdb2 = 40960 */var* /dev/sdb3 = 102400 *RAID* Then I create the RAID after I run "cfdisk" utility: mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3 Once that is done, I run "/arch/setup command from the comand prompt and enter the system installer as normal. I have simply already created my disks, all I do from the installer now is assign a file system and mount point. It recognizes the RAID /dev/md0 partition I created using mdadm utility. Everything is fine but when I install Grub on /dev/sda and reboot the machine, I always fail to boot. I get some strange error that tells me to type "Control-D" for maintenance mode or something like that. If I do everything like I did above but don't create a RAID partition, Arch installs perfect! What am I doing wrong? The Arch Wiki is not helping me at all. I have spent a week trying to follow the Wiki with help from the forums and to no avail I have given up. I can't see this being that hard. I think I bork something up when I install Grub but I get no errors and it tells me I installed Grub successfully on /dev/sda. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=80776 Thanks for any help in getting me a working Arch Linux system with RAID.

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[arch-general] Help - Sound Disappeared -- Really! All modules -> Gone?? (kernel bug?)
by David C. Rankin 08 Dec '09

08 Dec '09

Guys, This is really strange. Sound used to work on my laptop, now it is just -- gone. The hardware hasn't changed (obviously): 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff08 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx- Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10 Region 0: Memory at f8700000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- but, there is NO /sys/module/snd -- Huh? [01:06 alchemy:~] # lsmod|grep '^snd' | column -t (returns nothing, there are no snd modules at all) Further, there is no sound dev: [01:06 alchemy:~] # l /dev/snd (nothing...) I've been throught the alsa wiki and it is still gone. I've tried adding the right module, but it isn't even on the system anymore: [17:21 alchemy:/etc/modprobe.d] # modprobe snd-hda-intel FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found. [17:45 alchemy:/media/disk/david] # modprobe snd_hda_intel FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found. Additinally, KDE prompts me to delete removed sound device HDA ATI SB, ALC268 Digital... Running SuSE 11.2 on the same box (different hard drive) shows the following modules are configured for sound (works fine): 08:39 alchemy:~/.kde4/share/config> lsmod | grep snd snd_pcm_oss 60032 0 snd_mixer_oss 22728 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq 78528 0 snd_seq_device 10460 1 snd_seq snd_hda_codec_realtek 317868 1 snd_hda_intel 37088 2 snd_hda_codec 111112 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 11216 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 117808 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 32152 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd 97608 14 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_page_alloc 12600 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm Here is the hwinfo output from the suse install: 21: PCI 14.2: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.310] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_4383 Unique ID: 5Dex.CWqchpyBRV6 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2 SysFS BusID: 0000:00:14.2 Hardware Class: sound Model: "ATI SBx00 Azalia" Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc" Device: pci 0x4383 "SBx00 Azalia" SubVendor: pci 0x1179 "Toshiba America Info Systems" SubDevice: pci 0xff08 Driver: "HDA Intel" Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" Memory Range: 0xf8700000-0xf8703fff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 16 (461488 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d00004383sv00001179sd0000FF08bc04sc03i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Now how do I get the sound to re-appear in Arch?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?
by Arvid Picciani 08 Dec '09

08 Dec '09

obviously i do NOT want to remove xorg-server. i don't need evdev, but: :: xorg-server: requires xf86-input-evdev>=2.2.5 so no removing it either. the mirror i'm using has been updated today (December 1th), and i'm not using testing. mirrors package versions: xorg-server 1.7.2-2 xf86-input-evdev 2.3.1-1 thanks -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies

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[arch-general] Low volume for kopete notifications
by Shridhar Daithankar 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

Hello All, I got a new computer and installed arch on it. I have restored my home directory from other machine, which has lived thr. kde3 -> kde4 transition and isn't exactly prestine. This is core2duo machine and the soundcard is 82801G HDA, as reported by lspci. I don't have pulseaudio installed. Jack is installed but not running. Phonon backend is gstreamer. Everything is working fine but there is a strange behaviour. Volume of kopete notification is very low. I am surprised that it even has a different volume than normal. Furthermore kopete has no way to set this volume, even though I can set the tone/music for it. Sound test in KDE settings runs fine in notifications and music category(how to set them for applications and how do they matter anyways?). Also moc(a console mp3 player) is working fine.( I had to resort to moc since juk doesn't output any sound at all. That is another issue but I don't mind moc) Creating a new user isn't an option since I have tons of settings/data customized and can't leave it all behind. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -- Shridhar

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[arch-general] Gajim 0.13.1-1 generate errors
by Abdourazak Osmanov 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

Hi! I refreshed my Arch today, and found that the file ~/.xsession-errors grows to infinity with messages: 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue 13:45:13 (W) gajim.c.x.transports_nb: calling send on empty buffer and queue Please rebuild Gajim package. Sincerely yours, Abdurazak Osmanov aka mao(tm)

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[arch-general] lastsync file on mirrors
by Dieter Plaetinck 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

is it just me or did the lastsync format change? IIRC the lastsync file was 1 file in the root of the repo, with the date in it in string format. now the lastsync files are like so: <path>/{core,extra,testing,...}/os/{i686,x86_64}/lastsync each containing a unix timestamp. note: no lastsyncfile for any 'any' architecture directory, and also none for either architecture for the community-testing repo. maybe the easiest is to go back to 1 global file, as long as we can make sure somehow that rsync will sync the lastsync file as last thing. I maintain an (official) mirror and would like to monitor these files to prevent out-of-date issues. Dieter

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[arch-general] Yikes! kernel26-2.6.32-1-x86_64 leaves Toshiba laptop unbootable
by David C. Rankin 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

Guys, I had a fairly rude surprise when I pulled the testing updates tonight. The install of kernel26-2.6.32-1-x86_64 left my toshiba 205d laptop unbootable. The boot process would start as usual but then get to a point just after it had started X and lock. There was no way to ctrl+f1 to break out of X and the only solution was to reboot. I booted to the install cd, and chrooted everything in /mnt/arch and downgraded the kernel to kernel26-2.6.31.6-1 (along with madwifi) and now everything is back to normal. I have looked throught the logs, but I don't know where the useful information would be captured. I think the failed boot sequences (I tried twice) are shown in these snippets: kernel.log: Dec 6 20:55:46 alchemy kernel: Unpin not necessary for ffff88011dd6fe00 ! Dec 6 20:55:46 alchemy kernel: i2c-adapter i2c-1: unable to read EDID block. Dec 6 20:55:46 alchemy kernel: radeon 0000:01:05.0: LVDS-1: no EDID data Dec 6 20:55:46 alchemy kernel: i2c-adapter i2c-1: unable to read EDID block. Dec 6 20:55:46 alchemy kernel: radeon 0000:01:05.0: LVDS-1: no EDID data Dec 6 20:55:54 alchemy kernel: Unpin not necessary for ffff8800ba072800 ! Dec 6 20:55:56 alchemy kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready Dec 6 20:55:56 alchemy kernel: wlan0: deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3) Dec 6 20:55:56 alchemy kernel: wlan0: deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3) I don't even know if the failed boot attempts made it to the point that logging was turned on. Anyway, you guys let me know what you want to see or what you want me to test and I'll get it for you FAST. I can't have my Arch install down. I can live without suse, but not Arch ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Unable to Install Arch on Server
by Carlos Williams 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

I have a Dell server (Power Edge 1855) blade that I am trying to install Arch Linux on. I have no problems installing / running Debian, CentOS, or Ubuntu on this hardware but when I try to boot from Arch CD (2009.08 Netinst or Core), I get an error: Waiting for boot device... Error: Boot device didn't show up after 30 seconds... Falling back to interactive prompt. You can try and fix the problem manually, log out when you're finished. ramfs$ I also built a new PC from home with parts purchased from Newegg.com. The machine runs perfect with almost any flavor of Linux / Windows but when I go to install Arch Linux as above, I get the same error. I have done md5 sum check on my ISO image and used the CD on other servers fine. I know the disk / image is not the problem. Anyone know how I can resolve this? Here is a link to the screenshot of the error: http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6127/errorua.png

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32-1
by Hussam Al-Tayeb 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 09:31 +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Samstag 05 Dezember 2009 09:00:38 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: > > - splitted kernel-headers to extra package > > If you want to build external modules please install: > > pacman -S kernel26-headers > > Please change your PKGBUILDS to makedepend on this package. > > Was this done to reduce the kernel package size? It's a little > confusing to > have kernel26-headers and kernel-headers. > Isn't it against Arch philosophy to split packages it binary and header packages?

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[arch-general] coreutils 8.1 major problem
by Lukáš Jirkovský 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Hi everyone, I've just noticed coreutils 8.1 in [testing] repo and I think I should warn you. Unfortunatelly it has one quite bad regression which can break quite many scripts. There is a change in rm command (it's fixed in git repository) that when you try to remove "" it immediately exits without removing any other specified files. Unfortunately this breaks many scripts and Makefiles(IIRC there's problem with eg. libxt). I suggest NOT to upgrade to coreutils 8.1 before the old behavior is restored. more info: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-11/msg00348.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-12/msg00004.html best, Lukas

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[arch-general] kernel 2.6.32-1
by Tobias Powalowski 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Hi guys, kernel 2.6.32 first test run ... Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16855 # added CONFIG_PM_DEBUG http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17106 # added CONFIG_MMIOTRACE Arch Linux changes: - splitted kernel-headers to extra package If you want to build external modules please install: pacman -S kernel26-headers Please change your PKGBUILDS to makedepend on this package. - added xen support to 64bit kernel - changed intel kms enabled by default - changed to new firewire subsystem: http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration Broken binary modules: - lirc still needs to be patched, though no fix available yet. Enjoy have fun and give me feedback, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] 2.6.29 config
by Caleb Cushing 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

where can I get find the configs for older kernels? specifically 2.6.29? -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

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[arch-general] How to change some setting of gdm under xfce4
by 大熊 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

I use xfce4+gdm, and want to have a auto-login Google result show I can directly modify the /etc/gdm/custom.conf Is there a xfce's GUI App achieve the same work?

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[arch-general] turn mc into a 'SuperTool' enable 'Lynx-like motion'
by David C. Rankin 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Guys, No doubt most of you already know, but I just figured it out. If you use (or want to try) 'mc' (midnight commander), then try it with the configuration option 'Lynx-like motion' enabled. It makes mc a dream to use. No more scrolling back to the top of a directory tree to go up the directory hierchy. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Qt 4.6.0
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hi there, > > I am still not sure if we can move Qt 4.6 to [testing] or even [extra]. In > theory it should be comptabile with all previous 4.x releases but my > experience tells me that there might be broken things. > > So it would be nice if you have a look at my packages and give some feedback. > https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre/packages/{i686,x86_64}/ > > Pierre > Installed here (i686 at this moment). Font looks a bit bigger than with previus qt. http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/screenshoots/qt45.png http://archlinux.djgera.com.ar/screenshoots/qt46.png -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] Setting LD_PRELOAD cripples Firefox
by ndlarsen 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Mojn. Strange issue here. Intended to use libtrash on my system. I added export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libtrash.so.3.2 to /etc/profile to set it systemwide, LD_PRELOAD pointing to /usr/lib/libtrash.so.3.2 is needed in order to get libtrash to work - and it did. Here's the bummer, though. Doing so causes firefox to hang at startup. Any of you ot experinced this or know the reason? Cheers. /ndlarsen

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[arch-general] Problem updating system
by Shridhar Daithankar 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hello All, I am having trouble doing a system upgrade. ----------------------------------------------------------- root@presario pacman.d]# pacman -Sy :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date [root@presario pacman.d]# pacman -Su :: Starting full system upgrade... local database is up to date ----------------------------------------------------------- Following is my /etc/pacman.conf ----------------------------------------------------------- [options] HoldPkg=pacman glibc SyncFirst=pacman [core] #Include=/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Server=ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 [extra] #Include=/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Server=ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 [community] #Include=/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Server=ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 ----------------------------------------------------------- The mirror is updated on nov 29, according to https://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html but I have not updated the system since nove 16-18(somtime that week). I followed into http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=660210, and forced a package refresh but of no use. Any ideas? -- Shridhar

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[arch-general] wiki email confirmation won't confirm
by Arvid Picciani 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hey, i'm trying to sign up for the wiki, the confirmation link yields a page that says: "Your e-mail address has now been confirmed." though in the account preferences remains: "Your e-mail address is not yet authenticated. No e-mail will be sent for any of the following features." And i can't edit. Another confirmation code had the same result. -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies

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[arch-general] custom repo guide?
by Arvid Picciani 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

Hey, can you link me to a manual on custom repositories? I couldn't find anything on the wiki. Specifically what needs to be done on the server side to maintain the package index. Looks like that is all that's needed for a repo, is it? thanks. -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies

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[arch-general] future of xorg-server and hal
by Xavier 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <hollunder(a)gmx.at> wrote: >> >> Anyway hal is dead : >> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Notes?highlight=%28hal%29|%28udev%29#… >> But since that functionality is definitely needed, it will have to be >> replaced.. somehow. > > > Isn't that somehow going to be device-kit? > If so, we won't get rid of dbus. > It looks like devicekit has -disk and -power but not -input. And what Xorg would need is the non-existing -input, so it cannot use devicekit. Besides it looks like some xorg devels are a bit annoyed by the big mess and endless renaming/overhaul of these projects : hal -> devicekit -power/-disk -> upower/udisk ? http://paste.debian.net/52931 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/DeviceKit You might also find more information on devicekit ML. Anyway, as the xorg wiki above points out, and as Jan mentioned in another thread, Xorg will probably just use libudev directly on Linux : http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2009-December/009283.ht… And some further clarification : 18:41 < alanc> right now, Xorg uses HAL for two things: 1) an OS independent way of finding input devices and getting notified of hotplugs, 2) configuration data for those devices 18:42 < jcristau> 1) is going to become os-dependent, and 2) should eventually be possible through xorg.conf.d 18:42 < alanc> for task #1, HAL will be replaced by OS-dependent code - libudev on Linux, libsysevent on Solaris, whatever HAL called on BSD/other OS'es for those OS'es

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[arch-general] Problem loading a site in midori
by Ty John 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

Hi all, I just recently decided to try midori again and I'm impressed in how much its improved in such a short amount of time. One problem I am having is loading my university's website. http://oasis.curtin.edu.au/ Looks like there is some weird kind of redirecting going on there but not sure if that is causing the problem. Loads fine in firefox (and other browser's I've tried) but not midori. There doesn't seem to be an option for midori to output any verbose or debug messages so I'm not too sure where to look for the problem. Another thing I noticed which may or may not be related, is the "speed dial" feature. It worked fine when I first installed midori but now it just shows a blank page exactly like my university's website. Any suggestions? ~ Ty

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[arch-general] dcopserver problem
by richard terry 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

Hi list, Last few days or so of weeks having huge problems with kde4 after the last upgrade. Apps just hang, clicking on the toolbar > no reponse for eons. messages were around kbuildsycoca: WARNING's...... I looked on the forums/net and they seemed to indicate that typing dcopserver_shutdown, followed by kdeinit would fix the problem, which it sort of does temporarily. I wondered what could be going on and how to fix it permanantly. Any helip appreciated. Richard

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] patch-2.6
by Alexander Duscheleit 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:42:33 -0500 Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> > wrote: > > Allan McRae wrote: > >> > >> Ionut Biru wrote: > >>> > >>> On 11/20/2009 07:24 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Upstream update. Signoff both. > >>>> > >>> > >>> signoff x86_64 > >>> > >> > >> Anyone for i686? > >> > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > signoff i686 Does this [1] affect arch? I guess it does for users building from aur or abs, but I'm not really familiar with most build-environments. [1] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-… --

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[arch-general] leafnode-svn and zoneminder
by Geoffrey Lane 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

I'm having two seperate issues here, one is simply a question or request for an AUR, but the other is dependancy hell and I can't resolv without removing some components. For several reasons I'd like to try leafnode 2 (beta), they have a git repo which should be easy enough - But I'd like to make a pkg out of THAT so it can be removed in future. Anybody know of a repo or a template for making a arch package out of a svn/git repo? zoneminder is kind of a security application, it allows you to monitor webcam over the net or record pictures/video. If I try to install the package it says it requires mmpeg-svn and a few others. mmpeg-svn also requires x264-git, which will remove x264, mmpeg (reg), and vlc. Vlc has no package that seems to depend on mmpeg-svn so if I remove it I get rid of my favorite video player. I'd appreciate the help getting fustrated on the second Geo -- "'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you guarantee our safety!' --John Crichton (Farscape)"

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[arch-general] packages installed to /usr/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu and x86_64-unknown-uclibc -- broken??
by David C. Rankin 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Guys, Picking though /usr/ (because I've nothing better to do...) I ran across two directories that look like they do not belong where they are. The directories are: 02:19 alchemy:/usr> find x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/ -type d x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/ x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/arm-elf x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/arm-elf/lib x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/arm-elf/include x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/i486-mingw32 x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/i486-mingw32/lib x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/i486-mingw32/include 02:20 alchemy:/usr> find x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/ -type d x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/ x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/lib x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/lib/ldscripts x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/bin x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/net x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/sys x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/neteconet x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/bits x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/arpa x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/netinet x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/netipx x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/netpacket x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/rpc x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/scsi x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/netax25 x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/include/protocols I have an understanding of the files in x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, but I don't know what the uclibc files are specifically (I mean I know libc, just not the uc part). There are a large number of files here: 02:20 alchemy:/usr> find x86_64-unknown-linux-uclibc/ -type f | wc -l 367 Full file list at: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/usr-x86-64-unknown.txt The file dates on the files are November 5th. These directories look like they should be somewhere else, so I'm putting it to the brain-trust, bug or feature?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] SBCL orphaned for i686?
by Leslie P. Polzer 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Hi, I'm part of the Paktahn development team; Paktahn is a yaourt-like frontend to Arch package management written in Common Lisp. At the moment SBCL is our main deployment Lisp, and we depend on the 1.0.32 release of SBCL because this release includes a critical patch. We have noticed that SBCL i686 in extra is now marked as "orphaned". If this is true, what are the implications of it? Will SBCL for i686 move to AUR/Community? And can we do anything to remedy this situation in order to get SBCL 1.0.32/.33 in soon? Thank you! Leslie -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/polzer

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[arch-general] usable browser?
by Arvid Picciani 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Hi, ever since ff3 turned firefox into unusable, i'm on the quest to find a usable browser. Chromium was quite decent for a while (after fixing the dbus dependency) despite it deadlocks when you mouse-move tabs (fortunately i dont do that anyway), but recently it started timing out on every second request. The answer from google was: deactivate your windows firewall, so well.. back to searching a browser. Basicly each and every firefox clone/fork/based browser has the same issues as firefox (100% disk i/o all the time even when idle), so those don't work. webkit based browsers can't render half of the internet properly. i wonder if somone cloned chromiums webkit thing and made a brwoser of it? uzbl is quite decent, i wish they'd use chromes rendering. opera would be awesome if it didn't have billions of popups and their "Upgrade to opera10" popup really made me uninstall opera. any options left? -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies

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[arch-general] Single Person ISP?
by Brendan Long 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

So recently Verizon has stopped letting me do free tethering and I've been looking for a replacement. Apparently all of the free ISPs I can find all require that you use their shitty Windows program to connect, so I decided, "I have a phone line, a modem and an internet connection, maybe I can make my own ISP". Basically, I want to take a computer with a dialup modem and an ethernet connection to a cable modem and make it so whenever someone calls, the computer picks up and acts like an ISP (requests username/password, then forwards all requests to the cable modem). Obviously, it wouldn't be that great (added latency, phone line won't work while it's active), but it's at least theoretically possible. I'm just wondering if there's software designed to do it. -Brendan Long

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[arch-general] Pretty Cool Dark Blue Arch Linux kdm/xdm greeter theme for your box
by David C. Rankin 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Guys, I cannibalized a cool dark blue gradient kdm/xdm greeter theme for Arch from kubuntu (it's GPL). Works great. Just unzip the file (it has full path information to /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes). Then I just used kde systemsettings -> System -> login manager -> themes to select it and then log out and you should have it looking at you. Enjoy: (~401k due to the svg dialogs..) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kdm/ArchSpotLight.tar.gz -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] kmail spellcheck reporting no errors when there plainly are errors - can someone confirm?
by David C. Rankin 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Guys, With KMail Version 1.12.3 Using KDE 4.3.3 (KDE 4.3.3), kmail isn't catching any spelling errorssss. Eggsample: lsdfjhosijg Spellcheck with kmaaail: "Spell check complete." WTF?? If you can confirm, I'll bug it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Frustrating Dependencies
by Phillip Smith 29 Nov '09

29 Nov '09

Hi all, So, there's currently a frustrating chain of dependencies: digikam -> kdepimlibs -> akonadi -> mysql So to manage my digital photos, I need a relational database system...! On a desktop system that I don't use for development, it's a bit annoying to have to have mysql taking up space, downloads during updates etc. Is there anyway we can get around this particular chain of deps? It's not a major issue, but just "one of those things" ;) Cheers, ~p

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[arch-general] leafnode not allowing connection (connection refused)
by Geoffrey Lane 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

I'm just playing around a bit with leafnode. It installed ok, and no dependancy crud. But I cannot connect to it The FQDN is set to my dynamic dns server my leafnode config file has been setup with user/pass, server, port my hosts.allow/deny are actually removed for now, and there is no firewall running I can run the leafnode program/daemon and it shows it is running // 200 Leafnode NNTP Daemon, version 1.11.7 running at [dns] (my fqdn: [dns]) // I should be able to use slrn or even telnet to connect but it says connection refused. I looked in the logs for refusal or error msg and all I found was in News.log -- and there didn't seem to be problems. Here's the output, it seems to say the connection to x-privat was successfull: // Nov 26 23:06:11 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: news.x-privat.org: connected to 194.177.98.144:119, reply: 200 Nov 26 23:06:12 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: news.x-privat.org: 0 articles posted. Nov 26 23:06:13 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: news.x-privat.org: getting all newsgroups (debug: active: nil, forceactive: true) Nov 26 23:06:19 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: <215 list of newsgroup names follow Nov 26 23:06:28 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: news.x-privat.org: reading server info from /var/spool/news/leaf.node/news.x-privat.org Nov 26 23:06:28 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: wrote active file with 22485 lines Nov 26 23:06:28 Desktop fetchnews[6069]: child has process ID 6070 Nov 28 16:23:26 Desktop leafnode[30420]: connect from (local file) (no IP) to [dns] (no IP) (my fqdn: [dns]) // Oh and initial fetch does work: // [root@Desktop log]# sudo fetchnews -vvv -n alt.os.linux.ubuntu -x 2000 leafnode 1.11.7: verbosity level is 3, debugmode is 0 Don't automatically unsubscribe unread newsgroups. try_lock(timeout=5), fqdn="[fqdn]" news.x-privat.org: connecting to port nntp... news.x-privat.org: connected to 194.177.98.144:119, reply: 200 news.x-privat.org: connected. news.x-privat.org: using STAT <message-ID> command. news.x-privat.org: authenticated as [user] news.x-privat.org: 0 articles posted. news.x-privat.org: getting new newsgroups news.x-privat.org: got 0 new newsgroups. news.x-privat.org: reading server info from /var/spool/news/leaf.node/news.x-privat.org news.x-privat.org: conversation completed, disconnected. wrote active file with 22485 lines Started process to update overview data in the background. Network activity has finished. // Anybody have any ideas why the connection is refused? I'm not sure which avenue to follow now since it won't even allow localhost. I saw no howto for arch so not sure if there are any additional steps needed. I've more or less followed the howto for ubuntu here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=676837 I'd appreciate any help at all thankies Geo -- "'Bill Gates can't guarantee Windows, so how in the HELL can you guarantee our safety!' --John Crichton (Farscape)"

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[arch-general] Can`t post on bbs
by Dimytch 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Hi all I can`t register on archlinux bbs - site say "your email was banned". (yandex.ru) What did I do??? I`ve never been registered on this site, and I use my email about 4 years, so nobody did`nt used my email for something wrong. Also it says the same for address on mail.ru. Ppl, do you hate russian? //Dimytch

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[arch-general] [signoff] ar9170-fw-1.0-2-any
by Giovanni Scafora 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Hi guys, please signoff. ar9170-fw-1.0-2-any After signoff, I will be moving it from testing to core. Note: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16837 I have got already a signoff by Martin Dratva (raqua). -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it

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[arch-general] Please update boost from [extra] - PKGBUILD attached
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Boost in [extra] has been out-of-date since 1830 (and marked as such) and even though I mailed the maintainer two weeks ago no update happened. Here is my updated PKGBUILD for 1.41.0 which is actually a bit neater than before since no silly patches are required anymore. I'm currently running this package and see no trouble. Please use this to update boost in [extra] :). -- Sven-Hendrik # $Id: PKGBUILD 47703 2009-07-25 14:37:19Z giovanni $ # Maintainer: kevin <kevin(a)archlinux.org> # TU: Kritoke <kritoke(a)gamebox.net> # Contributor: Luca Roccia <little_rock(a)users.sourceforge.net> # Contributor: Sven-Hendrik Haase <sh(a)lutzhaase.com> pkgname=boost pkgver=1.41.0 _boostver=${pkgver//./_} pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Boost provides free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries." arch=(i686 x86_64) url="http://www.boost.org/" depends=('python>=2.5' 'bzip2' 'zlib') source=(http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/${pkgname}/${pkgname}_… license=('custom') options=(!ccache) md5sums=('8bb65e133907db727a2a825c5400d0a6') build() { cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver} #export CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fno-strict-aliasing" #export CXXFLAGS="${CXXFLAGS} -fno-strict-aliasing" # build bjam cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver}/tools/jam/src ./build.sh cc || return 1 _bindir="bin.linuxx86" [ "${CARCH}" = "x86_64" ] && _bindir="bin.linuxx86_64" install -m755 -d ${pkgdir}/usr/bin install -m755 ${_bindir}/bjam ${pkgdir}/usr/bin/bjam || return 1 # build bcp cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver}/tools/bcp ../jam/src/${_bindir}/bjam || return 1 install -m755 ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver}/dist/bin/bcp \ ${pkgdir}/usr/bin/bcp || return 1 # build libs cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver} # default "minimal" install: "release link=shared,static # runtime-link=shared threading=multi" # --layout=tagged will add the "-mt" suffix for multithreaded libraries # and installs includes in /usr/include/boost. # --layout=system no longer adds the -mt suffix for multi-threaded libs. ./tools/jam/src/${_bindir}/bjam \ release debug-symbols=off threading=single,multi \ runtime-link=shared link=shared,static \ cflags=-fno-strict-aliasing \ --prefix=${pkgdir}/usr \ -sPYTHON_ROOT=/usr \ -sPYTHON_VERSION=2.6 \ -sTOOLS=gcc \ --layout=tagged \ install || return 1 # --with-wave install || return 1 # -d2 <- debug cflags=-fno-strict-aliasing \ # build pyste cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver}/libs/python/pyste/install python setup.py install --root=${pkgdir} || return 1 # license install -m755 -d ${pkgdir}/usr/share/licenses/${pkgname} install -m644 ${srcdir}/${pkgname}_${_boostver}/LICENSE_1_0.txt \ ${pkgdir}/usr/share/licenses/${pkgname}/ || return 1 }

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[arch-general] [signoff] mdadm-3.1.1-1
by Tobias Powalowski 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Hi Changelog: http://neil.brown.name/git?p=mdadm;a=blob;f=ANNOUNCE-3.1.1;h=9e480dc0e31582… Please update and recreate your initcpio after upgrading. Moved udev rule for md devices to mdadm package. In case of moving, both need to be moved simultaniously. Still an issue in initscripts: One thing i observed, when using a custom /etc/mdadm.conf file our rc.sysinit will run mdadm --assemble --scan, which will always give exit code 2, due to devices busy. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] usable browser?
by Robert Howard 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

I don't understand why people want to use software that has no features. If something has more than one feature, people bitch about bloat. FF is not that bad nor is Seamonkey or any of the webkit stuff. On Nov 26, 2009 9:52 PM, "Thomas Bewick" <tombewick(a)gmail.com> wrote: Tobias Kieslich wrote: > > dillo, simplistic, bone simple, limitations on the functionality > Bottom... Seamonkey is quite fast. Although I am not using it now I have in the past and I know it is used extensively in Puppylinux because it is full featured and light weight, even including a mail client. Since it is developed by Mozilla it is very similar to FF in functionality but does not have all the extras that slow FF down. I agree that FF has gotten very bloated in the last few years, I think to compete with and explorer and make windows users happy. But as a result the browser is not what it used to be. I currently use chrome both on windows and in Arch and it runs the fastest of any others for me.

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[arch-general] Upgrading libwebkit finds conflict between udev and initscripts
by Samuel Baldwin 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

I have no idea why this happens, and I'm too afraid to let udev clobber initscripts to let this go through. Should I just let it go? What's up with this? arrakis^~# pacman -Sy libwebkit :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... :: udev conflicts with initscripts. Remove initscripts? [Y/n] n error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: udev: conflicts with initscripts -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

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Re: [arch-general] How to set keyboard configurations without touching xorg.con neither hal rules...
by Javier Vasquez 26 Nov '09

26 Nov '09

On 10/27/09, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasquez.v(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Usually I set the following: > > Option "XkbLayout" "latam,us" > Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch, grp:alt_shift_toggle" > Just a follow up to close this, :-) This can be done through: setxkbmap -layout "latam,us" -option "lv3:ralt_switch" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" which in turn can be included under .xinitrc or .xsession... -- Javier.

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[arch-general] Gnome - howto configure sound? Sound is silent, beep is loud (as heck)?
by David C. Rankin 25 Nov '09

25 Nov '09

Guys, This is my first real work with gnome. Initially when I first installed arch, it seems like I had sound (I think that was before gstreamer), now I have no sound for desktop apps, but the system beep is so loud it will scare the heck out of you when you backspace too far, etc... I need to reverse both. Sound works in everything but gnome. I know it was working in gnome, but now something isn't working or is conflicted. I know for a fact virtualbox had good sound in gnome, now I get an error from XP saying that it is defaulting to 'null' sound. See screenshot: (40k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/dt/gnome/vboxSoundError.jpg The big problem is I don't know how to configure the sound in gnome. I found this "Configuration Editor", but other than finding a few sound settings, I'm not sure what to do with it. I suspect, on a gut feeling I need to rip gstreamer out and go bact to asls or something else. But what? Here are some additional symptoms. The thing I first notice is my volume control is X'ed out and if I click on it, I get the error: "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." In the Configuration Editor, the sound settings I found look like this. / apps desktop gnome <snip> sound /desktop/gnome/sound/default_mixer_device <empty> /desktop/gnome/sound/default_mixer_tracks [] /desktop/gnome/sound/enable_esd unchecked /desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds checked /desktop/gnome/sound/input_feedback_sounds unchecked /desktop/gnome/sound/theme_name freedesktop <snip> schemas (all by <schema>) <snip> system gstreamer 0.10 audio global /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list profiles cdlossy ogg, cdlossless flac, aac m4a, mp2 mp2, mp3 mp3, voicelossless wav, voicelossy spx default audiosink autoaudiosink audiosink_description default audiosrc alsasrc audiosrc_description default (chat music and video all default) Well that doesn't mean a whole lot of shinola to me at all. If some of our great list companions has any expertise with sound in gnome, I really would appreciate a bit of help or at least a point in the right direction on whether I trash gstreamer and work to configure alsa of a good webpage where this is discussed would be fine. As always, if you need anything else, please do not hesitate to ask. I'm more than happy to do the work on my end to learn how to fix this. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] New install configuring php - only get text - feeling stupid -- help!
by David C. Rankin 24 Nov '09

24 Nov '09

Guys, I can't believe this. On my new arch install on my laptop, I'm finally getting around to configuring the web server and I am having trouble with php. When I try and access a php page, all I get is the text of the script echoed to the browser. I have heard about this happening before and I think I have even fixed it before, but I can't for the life of me remember how? I've been through the wiki at: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LAMP I have the following loaded: php 5.3.1-2 php-apache 5.3.1-2 php-curl 5.3.1-2 php-docs 5.3.0-1 php-enchant 5.3.1-2 php-gd 5.3.1-2 php-gmp 5.3.1-2 php-intl 5.3.1-2 php-ldap 5.3.1-2 php-mcrypt 5.3.1-2 php-odbc 5.3.1-2 php-pear 5.3.1-2 php-pgsql 5.3.1-2 php-pspell 5.3.1-2 php-snmp 5.3.1-2 php-sqlite 5.3.1-2 php-tidy 5.3.1-2 php-xsl 5.3.1-2 My php config in httpd.conf is: LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm Include conf/extra/php5_module.conf I've configured php and php works from the command line just fine and will dump phpinfo() to a terminal, but from my browser pointed at: http://localhost/dcr/phpinfo.php all I get is: "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" (no quotes) which is nothing more than the content of my test script. I have also configured php.ini with the proper: open_basedir =.:/srv/http:/usr/share/pear:/home:/tmp:/var/lib/egroupware <snip> include_path = ".:/srv/http/secure:/srv/http/htdocs:/srv/http/dl:/usr/share/pear:/srv/http" to accomadate the php include and defined the directory to /dcr. In fact I can browse /dcr just fine, but clicking on the phpinfo() script just returns the text of the script like all my other pages. What's the trick? (yes, I've stopped and restarted httpd...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] [signoff] zd1211-firmware-1.4-3-any switched to arch=any
by Giovanni Scafora 24 Nov '09

24 Nov '09

Hi guys, I'm looking for user signoffs on the upgrade not killing the device. zd1211-firmware-1.4-3-any After signoffs, I will be moving it from testing to core. Thanks. -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it

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[arch-general] Post Install for RAID Configuration?
by Carlos Williams 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

I have a stand alone server running Arch 2009.08 x64 and it was configured via the 'Netinst' CD however during the time of the installation, the server had only one physical disk. I installed the system as follows: * /dev/sda1 = swap * /dev/sda2 = boot * /dev/sda3 = / * /dev/sda4 = /var Now I have since obtained identical drives on this system which show up as /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc. Both of the new drives are identical. I have the system running perfectly however I would like to create /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc in a mirror. I can use 'cfdisk' utility to create RAID partitions on the newly installed drives using the 'fd' code. Can I simply just use 'mdadm' utility to create a mirror after I create the partitions with out messing up my configured / working Arch Linux server? Code: mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 The Wiki has a write up (which I have never been able to get working) on RAID / LVM but this appears to be configured during the installation of Arch which I have already done. Not to mention I have followed the Wiki guide dozens of times to no avail. I even gave up on trying to install the swap and root partitions on the RAID and just do /home and it still fails. Anyone know if I will run into any issues?

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[arch-general] Need Text-to-Speech
by Keith 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, at 22:16:58 -0500, Daenyth Blank wrote: > This article may help: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_for_the_blind and my well have saved sound's sanity, if not tried life. I knew such a play existed but finding it was beyond my abilities. Thank you SO much, Daenyth. I'll (*briefly*) post progress (which will be slow, through the codeine fog ATM; doc with likely be giving me something MUCH stronger in 8 hours, so I'd best move fast...). Peace to you, Daenyth.

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[arch-general] svn:keywords is not set on newer packages
by Evangelos Foutras 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

Hello, The $Id$ keyword came up while talking with Angel and I realized that the svn:keywords property doesn't get set on PKGBUILD for new packages, and thus $Id$ doesn't get updated on commit. I believe we should fix this, as this information is useful when determining when a PKGBUILD was last modified and by whom. May I suggest we do the following: 1) Edit the "Adding a package" section [1] of the packaging instructions in the DeveloperWiki to include this step. (Adding `svn propset svn:keywords "Id" new-package/trunk/PKGBUILD' below the $EDITOR line perhaps?) 2) Add this property to all packages (this has been done once before by Aaron, if I remember correctly). What's your view on this? ---- [1] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:HOWTO_Be_A_Packager#Addin…

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[arch-general] Need Text-to-Speech
by Keith 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

Hello. Please excuse my spelling; it's why I'm writing. In the past 3-4 weeks (or less), I've developed a very intense case of "alexia" (I'd never heard of it befor, either). If anyone might be interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexia_%28disorder%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexia_%28acquired_dyslexia%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphasia#History My hearing and speech are completely unaffected. My reading and writing are about 99% dysfunctional. I face the bigging fight of me life, and am not able to comprehend more than 1-2% of any of the links above - or much more than that of the ArchLinx home page, for that matter. I'm in VERY bad need of a simple but effective text-to-speech program. If it can read/render a web-page, and plan text, that'll a darned go start. I'll be (very) slow to reply to posts; my assistant to 100% non-technical, but I well do my best; 10-15 minutes reading = a 5 hour migraine. This post today 5 hours to written, until I afraid for assistance. Ok - AMD x86_64. TIA in the extreme.

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[arch-general] Akonadi control process not registered at D-Bus, committing suicide! -- WTF?
by David C. Rankin 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

Guys, I'm trying to figure out what akonadi is doing on my new install, (moreover how to pronouce it's name), and what I am faced with is some strange errors. Specifically, the "Akonadi Server Self-Test Report" that appears when Akonadi crashes is located at: (9k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/akonodi-error-on-start.t… I found the following recently closed bug, and either it is something else that is happening, or there may be a regression: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16341?string=ed I also found the following, but I'm still having problems: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=85088 Admittedly, I know very little about akonadi, and whether I have packages missing, a config error, or if akonadi is having problems. So, if anybody can help or offer a link or two to some useful information, I would appreciate it. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32 experiences
by Damjan Georgievski 22 Nov '09

22 Nov '09

> I've built kernel 2.6.32rc8git1. My ati/radeon drm modules now > requires its own firmware that will be part of new kernel26-firmware > pkg. > > And we need to fix mkinitcpio to include that firmware for kms early > mode that now fails due to missing firmware. It did not help to add > FILES="/lib/firmware/radeon/R300_cp.bin" :( - maybe we need a new hook > for that. did you enable the firmware hook? I wonder how all of this will work on my HD3200 -- damjan

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[arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium...
by Hamo 21 Nov '09

21 Nov '09

Dear Archlinux users, Chrome is likely to be a daily-use web browser and with the Chrome OS releasing,it will become more and more reliable.Archlinux is a rolling-release distribution and it aims at being bleeding edge.So we should have a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium and it is really useful... -- Nick Name:Hamo Website:http://hamobai.com/

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[arch-general] [PATCH] send hostname to DHCP server / router
by Suraj Kurapati 21 Nov '09

21 Nov '09

Hello, For the longest time, the default ArchLinux networking setup had one deficiency: it would not send the machine hostname to the DHCP server / router when acquiring a DHCP lease. As a result, I was never able to ping/ssh my ArchLinux system by its hostname from other machines in my home network --- instead, I was always forced to type out my ArchLinux system's IP address in full. I looked high and low across the 'net before I finally found the answer in the dhcpcd.conf man page: the solution is to add the following line to your /etc/dhcpcd.conf file: hostname One thing that confused me is this line in the default ArchLinux /etc/dhcpd.conf file: # dhcpcd-run-hooks uses these options. option domain_name_servers, domain_name, domain_search, host_name The "option host_name" part *seems* like it would send your machine's hostname to the DHCP server, but it really doesn't. Maybe that's a bug? I request the developers in charge of the default ArchLinux networking setup to make the above change, so that ArchLinux systems send their hostnames to the DHCP server (and therefore can be pinged/ssh'ed/accessed by their hostname) out of the box! Thanks for your consideration.

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[arch-general] Borken kernel-2.6.31.6-1.tar.gz ?
by David Dupin 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

Hi, It seems that kernel-2.6.31.6-1.tar.gz is broken and can't be updated on i686 arch. On my x86_64 it works fine. If i unzip the download package i get message "invalid compressed data--format violated" Someone can confirm it ? PS : i try more than one repo but all fails.

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[arch-general] The ultimate Home Theater / media center computer
by RedShift 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

Hi list Somehow I got it into my head that I want a home theater PC. I'm growing tired of having to watch television and movies on my computer's 17" LCD screen. At the shop I used to work at, once in a while we'd build a media center computer, but the concept never really took off here (Belgium). There are many reasons for that, such as: * Television is major suckage here (thanks to That Big Company and Government-Not-Governing). The entire country is split into very small regions where broadcast frequencies differ, there's no unified TV guide system, not all regions can receive all channels. Digital television is even worse: That Big Company forces you to buy one of their proprietary decoders. The only way to receive digital television without restrictions is DVB-T with a very limited number of channels (basically nothing). * At that time, the hardware sucked (noisy, too big, not stylish enough to put it along your other hi-fi components, not powerful enough, limited digital outputs, etc...). The software wasn't much better (too complicated, took a long time to start, etc...). Anyway, my goal is to build the *ULTIMATE* HTPC. As such, strong demands must be met: The hardware: * It should be stylish, a timeless look which fits with your other hi-fi components. * It must be entirely silent. Zero moving components. No exceptions. * Unrestricted fully digital outputs. * Must be able to play at least 720p MKV's using x264 encoded video. * Easy remote control. No remote controls with more buttons than there are stars in the sky and certainly no "dual function" buttons (those functions in a different color which you need to flick a switch or are context dependent). * Able to receive DVB-C. The software: * There is no room for "Digital Rights Management" fascism. All content must play flawless and in the highest quality possible. In some cases this will mean circumventing protections. That'll probably make the device illegal in some countries, but I don't care. * Easy user interface (also see hardware remote control point). * Can connect to NAS or other storage devices such as USB sticks. In total: * Must be a complete replacement for your DVD player and other media devices. The goal here is keeping the number of remote controls down. Ideally you should only have two: one for controlling your HTPC and one for your hi-fi set. * It is geared towards modern television, that means stuff like HDTV and no legacy connector stuff (like composite). With those goals set, I started looking for hardware. Here's what I've come up with: * Case: Silverstone LC19 http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_spec.php?pno=lc19&area=usa + Fanless PSU. + Casefans can be removed + Comes with PCI-e and PCI risercards + Integrated cardreader and slimline optical slot + Available in black and silver + Accommodates standard ATX I/O shield + Room for a 3.5" storage device (SSD?) + Vents right above the CPU + Slim - Fits only small motherboard sizes - Only 120 watt PSU - No infrared receiver, no remote control * Motherboard: Asus P5N7A-VM http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=8YiUFvK51IergAqY&templete=2 + Powerful on-board graphics (nVidia 9300) + Supports 16 GB of RAM + eSATA port + Optical audio output + HDMI, DVI and VGA video output + Gigabit ethernet + Solid caps - nVidia on-board graphics (requiring proprietary driver) - On-board graphics use system memory - Crappy realtek audio codec * DVB-C receiver: ? I have zero experience with DVB-C receivers for computers. I've come across the "DVBWorldDTV Cable" (http://www.worlddvb.com/product/htm/pcic.htm) which seems to provide what I'm looking for. Anyone know how good this hardware actually is and how well it's supported by linux? I have an old hauppauge PVR-350 card which works well, unfortunately hauppauge doesn't seem to have DVB-C products. * Remote control: ? I want to have something simple here. Maybe a small USB infrared receiver and a simple remote control with buttons up, down, left, right, enter? Anyone know if such hardware exists? * Processor: Intel Celeron? No idea how much processing power would be required for a decent HTPC. Preferably as low powered as possible, as the CPU will have to be passively cooled. * Processor cooling: ? I was thinking of a big block with small fins which you see a lot in 1U rackservers. Copper would be the logical choice but from what I've read, aluminum allows for better heat transfer to the environment. So a copper base with alu fins would be ideal. * Storage: ? For storing the operating system I was thinking of those IDE compact flash cards. Downside is that they are very slow. An SSD can be considered but I want to leave the option open to use the 3.5" bay for a hard drive for people that don't have the luxury of a NAS or don't want to leave a NAS running all times. Moving along. The most annoying aspect: software. Obviously we want all our software to be open source. A shortlist of open source media center software: * MythTV (http://www.mythtv.org/) * XBMC (http://xbmc.org/) * Elisa (http://elisa.fluendo.com/) The point I really want to focus on is ease of use. Take this as a benchmark: you only have to explain your parents once how it works. Any suggestions, comments, thoughts, etc... are appreciated. Thanks, Best regards, Glenn

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[arch-general] stability of pbzip2 ?
by Ian-Xue Li 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hi, I'm quote fond of pbzip2's ability to multitask the compression, which comes really handy when backuping large archives of server files. But just heard from my friend: pbzip2 has stability issues, sometimes leads to corruption of archive, and hence unable to recover them. I wonder if this is true (in the sense that anyone once had a problem with pbzip2), because myself had never run into one of them. If so, it really a shame to abandon such a good tool though... -- Ian-Xue Li <da.mi.spirit(a)gmail.com>

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[arch-general] MUA
by Arvid Picciani 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Mutt grows old and still doesn't do threads the way i want. i've tried sup, but find it too early in development. Especcially it is unusable slow. Can somone recommend another MUA? thanks -- Arvid Asgaard Technologies

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[arch-general] Test - Sorry but good reason for it. Please ignore
by Geoff 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Sorry to post a test message, but I am an infrequent poster whose e-mails have not been getting through. I wrote to the list admins about it a while ago but got no response, so I have unsubscribed / resubscribed.

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[arch-general] pam settings INSECURE
by Caleb Cushing 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

so here's the problem I've discovered http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-… < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's and arch's developers responses are less than satisfactory. This is a security bug an easy to fix without making users lives more difficult. so I'm starting with /etc/pam.d/login auth required pam_shells.so #add this: why let someone login who has an invalid shells. /etc/pam.d/kdm # I'm pretty sure it should be 99% the same as login since it allows logins. #%PAM-1.0 auth requisite pam_nologin.so auth required pam_unix.so nullok auth required pam_shells.so # as my blog says setting an invalid shell is a common way of disabling accounts. auth required pam_tally.so onerr=succeed file=/var/log/faillog # use this to lockout accounts for 10 minutes after 3 failed attempts #auth required pam_tally.so deny=2 unlock_time=600 onerr=succeed file=/ account required pam_access.so account required pam_time.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so #password required pam_cracklib.so difok=2 minlen=8 dcredit=2 ocredit=2 ret #password required pam_unix.so md5 shadow use_authtok session required pam_unix.so session required pam_env.so session required pam_limits.so also I believe pam_tally2 replaces pam_tally may wish to consider migrating (non urgent next release?) -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 61, Issue 39
by jelle van der waa 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Re: We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium... (Juan Diego) There are enough arch user maintained repo's, you could ask them to package it beside that how much work is AUR ;) 2009/11/18 <arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org> > Send arch-general mailing list submissions to > arch-general(a)archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > arch-general-owner(a)archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of arch-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MUA (Alexandr Bashmakov) > 2. Re: pam settings INSECURE (bender02) > 3. Re: pam settings INSECURE (Xavier) > 4. Re: pam settings INSECURE (bender02) > 5. Re: pam settings INSECURE (Jan de Groot) > 6. We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium... (Hamo) > 7. Re: pam settings INSECURE (Xavier) > 8. Re: We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium... (Daenyth Blank) > 9. Re: We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium... (Juan Diego) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:26:04 +0700 > From: Alexandr Bashmakov <alex.teorver(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] MUA > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <7d16d2700911180226q14e0d1bbtf1ad3095687a38a5(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > http://notmuchmail.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:58:46 +0100 > From: bender02 <bender02(a)archlinux.us> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <6eefa5460911180358n14f3937esc3a3dea388c09ef3(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2009/11/18 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee(a)gmail.com>: > > The *disadvantage* is that the devs/maintainers have to patch up-stream. > > This should be kept to a minimum, primarily to reduce their workload, > > and also because it is ASSUMED that if you use Arch, you're capable of > > doing the Right Thing (tm) according to your situation, or at least > > finding out how to. > > If you would take the time to look at the packages that are involved > in this (namely shadow and kdebase-workspace), you'd see that both > /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/kde are manually suplied alongside the > PKGBUILDs. So in this case, it's not "patching" but straight > "replacing" the "upstream". > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:07:39 +0100 > From: Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <91752840911180507l43f7899ncea46da9f73e2e1e(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Caleb Cushing <xenoterracide(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > so here's the problem I've discovered > > > http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-… > > < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's > > and arch's developers responses are less than satisfactory. This is a > > security bug an easy to fix without making users lives more difficult. > > > > so I'm starting with /etc/pam.d/login > > > > auth ? ? ? ?required ? ?pam_shells.so #add this: why let someone login > > who has an invalid shells. > > > > > > /etc/pam.d/kdm # I'm pretty sure it should be 99% the same as login > > since it allows logins. > > > > #%PAM-1.0 > > auth ? ? ? ?requisite ? pam_nologin.so > > auth ? ? ? ?required ? ?pam_unix.so nullok > > auth ? ? ? ?required ? ?pam_shells.so # as my blog says setting an > > invalid shell is a common way of disabling accounts. > > auth ? ? ? ?required ? ?pam_tally.so onerr=succeed file=/var/log/faillog > > # use this to lockout accounts for 10 minutes after 3 failed attempts > > #auth ? ? ? required ? ?pam_tally.so deny=2 unlock_time=600 onerr=succeed > file=/ > > account ? ? required ? ?pam_access.so > > account ? ? required ? ?pam_time.so > > account ? ? required ? ?pam_unix.so > > password ? ?required ? ?pam_unix.so > > #password ? required ? ?pam_cracklib.so difok=2 minlen=8 dcredit=2 > ocredit=2 ret > > #password ? required ? ?pam_unix.so md5 shadow use_authtok > > session ? ? required ? ?pam_unix.so > > session ? ? required ? ?pam_env.so > > session ? ? required ? ?pam_limits.so > > > > also I believe pam_tally2 replaces pam_tally may wish to consider > > migrating (non urgent next release?) > > > > So basically you just need to add "auth required > pam_shells.so" to all pam files related to login, correct ? > Or what were the other problematic settings of pam.d/kde ? > > The comments about this being an upstream problem are invalid, as > these pam files are all shipped by arch : > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/kdebase-workspace/trunk/ > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/shadow/trunk/login > > Note that this problem probably exists with all login managers. For > example gdm does not have pam_shells.so either. > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/gdm/trunk/ > > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > login files as consistent as possible. But I don't know enough about > pam to tell. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:17:24 +0100 > From: bender02 <bender02(a)archlinux.us> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <6eefa5460911180517m50a1edcbt518c04950f7203bb(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > > > > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > > login files as consistent as possible. But I don't know enough about > > pam to tell. > > Some other distros (opensuse, ubuntu, fedora at least) use > 'common-auth' (and probably some other 'common-*' files) in > /etc/pam.d/, which are then included in the particular pam files. > Hence all pam files are consistent. On the other hand, if you need > more fine-grained control, you need to edit and consolidate more files > than with the current arch setup. [I like arch's system better, but > who cares about that :)] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:24:24 +0100 > From: Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <1258550664.4737.4.camel@jan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:17 +0100, bender02 wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > > > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > > > > > > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > > > login files as consistent as possible. But I don't know enough about > > > pam to tell. > > > > Some other distros (opensuse, ubuntu, fedora at least) use > > 'common-auth' (and probably some other 'common-*' files) in > > /etc/pam.d/, which are then included in the particular pam files. > > Hence all pam files are consistent. On the other hand, if you need > > more fine-grained control, you need to edit and consolidate more files > > than with the current arch setup. [I like arch's system better, but > > who cares about that :)] > > The reason for shipping custom pam files is because we don't have > common-* files in arch. The gdm file is a straight copy from the login > file, with some added modules for gnome-keyring to get that daemon > started on login. With common-auth, we could just @include common-auth > from the pam file, which is much easier. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:48:26 +0800 > From: Hamo <hamo.by(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium... > To: arch-general(a)archlinux.org > Message-ID: > <55b9903b0911180548r19eda9b9x1687aab9085c11eb(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear Archlinux users, > Chrome is likely to be a daily-use web browser and with the Chrome OS > releasing,it will become more and more reliable.Archlinux is a > rolling-release distribution and it aims at being bleeding edge.So we > should have a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium and it is really > useful... > > -- > Nick Name:Hamo > Website:http://hamobai.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:52:42 +0100 > From: Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <91752840911180552u6626b43at10e6e2c7667a2426(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:17 +0100, bender02 wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > >> > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > >> > > >> > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > >> > login files as consistent as possible. But I don't know enough about > >> > pam to tell. > >> > >> Some other distros (opensuse, ubuntu, fedora at least) use > >> 'common-auth' (and probably some other 'common-*' files) in > >> /etc/pam.d/, which are then included in the particular pam files. > >> Hence all pam files are consistent. On the other hand, if you need > >> more fine-grained control, you need to edit and consolidate more files > >> than with the current arch setup. [I like arch's system better, but > >> who cares about that :)] > > > > The reason for shipping custom pam files is because we don't have > > common-* files in arch. The gdm file is a straight copy from the login > > file, with some added modules for gnome-keyring to get that daemon > > started on login. With common-auth, we could just @include common-auth > > from the pam file, which is much easier. > > > > > > That sounds good. > I filed http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17188 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:54:40 -0500 > From: Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch(a)gmail.com <daenyth%2Barch(a)gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU > chrome/chromium... > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <ea09a6380911180554w59527b1bg81fd22d94fa75d55(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:48, Hamo <hamo.by(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Archlinux users, > > Chrome is likely to be a daily-use web browser and with the Chrome OS > > releasing,it will become more and more reliable.Archlinux is a > > rolling-release distribution and it aims at being bleeding edge.So we > > should have a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium and it is really > > useful... > > > If you're interested, I recommend finding a sponsor so that you can > apply... > > There are lots of software projects that would be good to have, but it > only makes sense to keep them in the repos if someone is interested in > maintaining them. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:05:06 +0900 > From: Juan Diego <juantascon(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] We need a maintained-by-TU > chrome/chromium... > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <b3095c50911180605h211fe211oee2a7b3902ab482a(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I would be happy to maintain that package, but unfortunately Im not a TU > > dont you think archlinux should have something similar to ppa from > ubuntu so that it will be easier to maintain and promote personal > repositories, aur is a good option but if I would have to choose > between using a packages from aur or using a package from a personal > repository from somebody I wouldnt think it twice, I would choose the > personal repo one. > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch(a)gmail.com<daenyth%2Barch(a)gmail.com>> > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:48, Hamo <hamo.by(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Archlinux users, > >> Chrome is likely to be a daily-use web browser and with the Chrome OS > >> releasing,it will become more and more reliable.Archlinux is a > >> rolling-release distribution and it aims at being bleeding edge.So we > >> should have a maintained-by-TU chrome/chromium and it is really > >> useful... > >> > > If you're interested, I recommend finding a sponsor so that you can > apply... > > > > There are lots of software projects that would be good to have, but it > > only makes sense to keep them in the repos if someone is interested in > > maintaining them. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > arch-general mailing list > arch-general(a)archlinux.org > http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-general > > > End of arch-general Digest, Vol 61, Issue 39 > ******************************************** > -- Jelle

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[arch-general] archlinuxfr bad virtualbox_bin-3.0.10-1 package
by David C. Rankin 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Guys, The archlinuxfr server has a bad virtualbox package on it. There is a lot of things virtualbox is, but one thing it isn't is an 8 meg package: :: Retrieving packages from archlinuxfr... error: failed retrieving file 'virtualbox_bin-3.0.10-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.bz2' from repo.archlinux.fr : Not Found 22:57 alchemy:~/img/arch> pms virtualbox_bin :: Synchronizing package databases... testing is up to date core is up to date extra is up to date community-testing is up to date community is up to date archlinuxfr is up to date resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (1): virtualbox_bin-3.0.10-1 Total Download Size: 8.09 MB Total Installed Size: 88.87 MB Probably just a bad rsync... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] First install of gnome on Arch, pretty cool... (new artwork this time :-)
by David C. Rankin 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Guys, Looking at the new desktop, I just had to take a screenshot and share. I never install gnome, but since I had enlightenment installed and a bunch of bits and pieces of gnome installed --> Why not? Working with it for a short period of time, I was quite pleased with it. Compiz works great with it, dark themes work as well. The base install is really crisp like kde3 was. (but like any desktop, you load it down with enough bells and whistles it slows down a bit) Long story short, I created a new cube cap for Arch (since it was pointed out my first set was of the old logo) and when done, I just had to send the screenshot in, so: (82k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/arch/archGnomeCompiz.jpg The Artwork for the caps: (108k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/compiz/archCaps.png If you like the artwork, use it at will... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] only detect 1 cpu
by viodreamlistas＠gmail.com 17 Nov '09

17 Nov '09

Hi all! I have got a quad core procesor but my archlinux only detect 1 cpu. --- $ uname -a Linux Nemesis 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 23 10:03:24 CEST 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux --- $ cat /proc/cpuinfo cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz cpu cores : 1 .... --- I dont know how to do to detect the 4 cpus. Any sugestions? Thanks in advance! PD: Sorry for mi english. -- V!ODREAM

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Re: [arch-general] old firewire stack?
by Roberto Malinverni 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

> I believe the kernel can only have 1 compiled at a time, so > you'll have to compile a custom kernel with the new stack... You _can_ compile both of them, but you need to blacklist the modules you don't want to use. > Last time we visited this topic, the new stack was incomplete > and unstable, and it also said so in the kernel configuration > menu. As I don't have any firewire devices, I never really > cared. Should we dump the old stack and switch to the new one > in the upgrade to 2.6.32? The Fedora Team switched to the new stack around fedora 8/9, causing a lot of troubles to the users: third party repos began then to offer the "old" modules as an addon. As for myself, the new stack couldn't even see my firewire external HD while the old stack worked fine - don't know with other kind of hardware. Roberto -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto.

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[arch-general] netcfg v2.5 in [testing] - auto wireless configuration has changed
by James Rayner 15 Nov '09

15 Nov '09

netcfg v2.5rc1 This is easily the biggest release since 2.0. Many new features and some significant changes under the hood. There are also a few features which have had changed options and this needs to be noted. The most notable is that net-auto has been removed in favour of the net auto wireless setup. # Move to new auto-wireless The new automatic connection has proper roaming support and will prove more reliable than the old setup - particularly with more complicated wireless configurations. To migrate to the new automatic wireless setup: 1. pacman -S core/wpa_actiond 2. Set WIRELESS_INTERFACE="" to your wireless interface in /etc/rc.conf. For example WIRELESS_INTERFACE="wlan0" 3. Add net-auto-wireless to your DAEMONS=() array. # New features: - net-auto-wireless/wpa_actiond - Real wireless roaming/auto connection. Based on same principle as autowifi. Requires optional dependency: wpa_actiond - net-auto-wired - automatic ethernet configuration. Requires optional dependency: ifplugd - Interface configurations - set options for all profiles using an interface - Radio Kill switch awareness - requires enabling, see wiki. - Output hooks - Significant internal cleanup & improvement # Internal changes: - Uses wpa_supplicant for all wireless configuration by default, including wep/none security. This adds improves support for most and should improve reliability. - Uses iproute by default for all static configuration. net_tools which contains ifconfig is effectively obsolete and hasnt seen a release for over 8 years. The 'ethernet-iproute' and 'ethernet' connection types have been merged together to simply 'ethernet'. All options are still supported and existing configurations will continue to work for both types. A symlink has been made to ensure that profiles using 'ethernet-iproute' will continue to function. # Changes in configuration options - net-auto and AUTO_NETWORKS is now deprecated in favour of net-auto-wireless/net-auto-wired. - wireless: If you were previously specifying the wpa_supplicant driver in WPA_OPTS, you now need to specify it in WPA_DRIVER. - wireless: iwconfig based configuration for wep/none can be used by changing to wep-old or none-old. This should not be necessary and is left in place only for the possibility of very old drivers that do not support wpa_supplicant. - ethernet-iproute: Now that 'ethernet' is iproute based, those using 'ethernet-iproute' can change the name back. There is a symlink in place however, so existing configurations of either name will continue to function regardless. - wireless-dbus: This idea didn't really go anywhere and is now unsupported. The wpa_supplicant dbus interface is a huge pain and it doesn't fit well into the netcfg codebase. It is no longer included, however netcfg will automatically use 'wireless' for any 'wireless-dbus' configurations as the supported options are effectively the same. # Download: netcfg 2.5rc1 is in [testing]. The source is on the Arch Linux ftp and latest PKGBUILD in svn. ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/netcfg/netcfg-2.5.0rc1.tar.gz # Documentation: The wiki has been updated to reflect this release. For 2.5, the documentation can be found at: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_Profiles_development When it is released this will be moved to the Network Profiles page. There's also some updated documentation of the supported options for 'wireless' and 'ethernet' here: http://www.rayner.id.au/netcfg/ Keep in mind that wireless supports all the options of 'ethernet'. If options are not documented, then it's a bug and they should be (or it's deprecated, but should be mentioned anyway for completeness). # Contributors: I had a few big contributors to this release: Jim Pryor: Many internal changes and improvements Thomas Bächler: wpa_actiond based auto roaming/connection Thanks guys! That's all for now, please file any bug reports on the bug tracker. James

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[arch-general] CUPS won't detect my usb printer
by Jim Burton 15 Nov '09

15 Nov '09

Hi, I'm new to arch and unable to set up my (USB) Canon printer. I've read quite a large number of threads on the forum about this and suppose my solution is in there somewhere but cups doesn't recognise my printer for some reason. Here's what I've tried: I've installed cups, ghostscript, gsfonts and gutenprint and blacklisted usblp. My printer is picked up by lsusb: Bus 005 Device 003: ID 04a9:1094 Canon, Inc. PIXMA iP3000x Printer and I think it has the right permissions: [jim@daisy ~]$ ls -l /dev/bus/usb/005/003 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 189, 514 2009-11-15 13:44 /dev/bus/usb/005/003 In the web interface when I go to add a printer there are none found. I have set cups logging to debug but there's nothing there that means anything to me. Here is some of the output when I try to find the printer in the web interface: D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 15 1.1 CUPS-Get-Printers 1 D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] CUPS-Get-Printers D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] CUPS-Get-Printers client-error-not-found: No destinations added. D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] Returning IPP client-error-not-found for CUPS-Get-Printers (no URI) from localhost D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 15 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 15 1.1 CUPS-Get-Devices 1 D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] CUPS-Get-Devices D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdIsAuthorized: username="" D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] Returning HTTP Unauthorized for CUPS-Get-Devices (no URI) from localhost D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdSendHeader: 15 WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="CUPS", trc="y" D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] [CGI] cgi_null_passwd(prompt="Password for daemon on localhost? ") called! D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] [CGI] lang="en_US.UTF8", locale="/en_US"... D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 15 WAITING Closing on EOF D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 15 D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:09 +0000] PID 2650 (/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi) exited with no errors. D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:39 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 12 WAITING Closing on EOF D [15/Nov/2009:13:45:39 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 12 What should I try next? Thanks, Jim

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[arch-general] old firewire stack?
by Dieter Plaetinck 14 Nov '09

14 Nov '09

Hi, according to http://www.kdenlive.org/user-manual/troubleshooting-and-common-problems/tro… we are using an old firewire stack. I'm having big problems with DV-video (firewire) stuff ( see http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=655692 ) and I was wondering if the new stack would fix it, but how can I run it? [root@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]# lsmod | egrep 'firewire|1394' dv1394 18492 0 video1394 15836 0 ohci1394 30220 2 dv1394,video1394 raw1394 25756 0 ieee1394 85668 4 dv1394,video1394,ohci1394,raw1394 [root@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]# modprobe firewire-ohci FATAL: Module firewire_ohci not found. [root@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]# pacman -Ss juju [root@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]# pacman -Ss firewire extra/dvgrab 3.5-1 Saves audio and video data from an IEEE (FireWire) digital source extra/libraw1394 2.0.4-1 Provides an API to the Linux IEEE1394 (FireWire) driver [root@dieter-p4sci-arch ~]# pacman -Qs libraw local/libraw1394 2.0.4-1 Provides an API to the Linux IEEE1394 (FireWire) driver thanks Dieter

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[arch-general] AUR: gcc-java-4.3.3.tar.bz2.part ==> ERROR: Build Failed.
by David C. Rankin 13 Nov '09

13 Nov '09

Guys, Looks like there is a misconfigured locale in the gcc-java-4.3.3 AUR files. Attempting to build the gcc-gcj AUR package, it died with the following: 2009-11-13 00:51:08 (135 KB/s) - “gcc-java-4.3.3.tar.bz2.part” saved [18053140] -> Found gcj-4.3-tools.jar-path.diff in build dir -> Found gcc_pure64.patch in build dir -> Found libjava-disable-static.dpatch in build dir -> Found libjava-sjlj.dpatch in build dir -> Found gcc-hash-style-both.patch in build dir ==> Validating source files with md5sums... gcc-core-4.3.3.tar.bz2 ... Passed gcc-g++-4.3.3.tar.bz2 ... Passed gcc-java-4.3.3.tar.bz2 ... Passed gcj-4.3-tools.jar-path.diff ... Passed gcc_pure64.patch ... Passed libjava-disable-static.dpatch ... Passed libjava-sjlj.dpatch ... Passed gcc-hash-style-both.patch ... Passed ==> Extracting Sources... -> Extracting gcc-core-4.3.3.tar.bz2 with bsdtar -> Extracting gcc-g++-4.3.3.tar.bz2 with bsdtar -> Extracting gcc-java-4.3.3.tar.bz2 with bsdtar ==> Entering fakeroot environment... ==> Starting build()... You need the de_DE locale to build gcc. ==> ERROR: Build Failed. Aborting... What to check? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] New NVIDIA legacy drivers compatible with our latest xorg-server
by Thomas Bächler 13 Nov '09

13 Nov '09

NVIDIA released new prereleases of their 173.xx.xx and 96.xx.xx drivers ([1], [2]). Driver packages and kernel modules for the 2.6.31-ARCH kernel are being uploaded now, they should start to appear on mirrors soon. Please test them and report. [1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2122688 [2] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2122691

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[arch-general] Frustrated with Crappy looking Firefox and OpenOffice GTK & QT themes?
by David C. Rankin 13 Nov '09

13 Nov '09

After mucking around trying to get firefox and openoffice to look right, I thought I would pass on a few tips. For those of you that know already, just hit delete. The dull boxy appearance of both GTK and some Qt apps left me scratching my head for the right tools to fix the look. The normal qtconfig and gtk2_prefs just didn't do it for all applications (like basket and other kde3 now sort of kde4 apps) Trial and error and google helped. The main tools are: GTK Preferences (ff has both GTK and Qt) /usr/bin/gtk2_prefs (themes and more) /usr/bin/gtk-chtheme (change theme ** Don't over look this one) Qt Preferences /usr/bin/qtconfig (themes and more) ** also the gnome-control-center collects most of the tools for you in one place. I don't use gnome, but I installed the control center for convenience. The packages involved are (with the addtional nice themes): GTK TOOLS & ENGINES gnome-control-center 2.28.1-1 gtk2_prefs 0.4.1-1 gtk 1.2.10-9 gtk2 2.18.3-2 gtk-kde4 0.9b-3 gtk-chtheme 0.3.1-4 gtk1-engines 0.12-2 gtk-engines 2.18.4-1 gtk-qt-engine 1.1-1 gtk-aurora-engine 1.5.1-1 gtk-engine-murrine 0.90.3-1 gtk-rezlooks-engine 0.6-8 gtk-smooth-engine 0.6.0.1-3 QT TOOLS & PACKAGES qt3 3.3.8-13 qt 4.5.3-3 qtcurve-gtk2 0.69.2-1 qtcurve-kde3 0.69.1-1 qtcurve-kde4 0.69.2-1 THEMES gnome-icon-theme 2.28.0-1 gnome-themes 2.28.1-1 gnome-themes-extras 2.22.0-1 murrine-themes-collection 20090906-1 qtcurve-gtk2 0.69.2-1 Install what you want, then just run gtk2_prefs and/or gtk-chtheme (if you installed the additional themes), then finish up with qtconfig. You have to shut down and restart you application for the changes to take effect, but when you are done, you will have some really good looking GTK and QT themes and decorations. (you can even select Oxygen as your GTK and Qt theme) The theme packages above have both light and dark themes. You can find some additional/better themes at art.gnome.org Here is an example of firefox and openoffice with the touch-ups applied (60k): http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/fixes/gtk-qt-example.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] (groff+)ghostscript/us letter/paper size problems
by Mike Bishop 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:49:13AM -0500, Louis Guillaume wrote: > Mike Bishop wrote: <snip> > > > >The problem is that recent versions of ghostscript will (often) > >assume a4 paper size, regardless of /etc/paper. This applies > >after ghostscript 8.64-5 but I am not sure which version (8.70 has > >the problem). > > I don't know much about how this is "supposed" to work with > /etc/paper or /etc/papersize. I always thought those were > ghostscript or grops things. > > If you need to explicitly define a paper size for groff to use (that > isn't the default) I think you need: `-dpaper=letter' in addition to > `-P-pletter'. The latter is for grops. > > Louis > Actually, I screwed up. The file on Arch at /usr/share/groff/1.20.1/font/devps/DESC has "papersize a4" while a more usual entry is "papersize /etc/papersize a4" ... so my settings in /etc/papersize were ignored. I looked for a complicated answer and found it! Rgds, -- Mike Bishop Willow, Alaska

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Re: [arch-general] аrch x86_64 and i686 performance comparison
by Robert Howard 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

I find the 64 bit version to be on par with the 32 bit version. I do think 64 bit is faster when using it for GIS with large datasets. I have been using 64 bit for years without remorse. Now, no 64 bit Windows OS has ever been worth using. On Nov 11, 2009 11:19 PM, "Sergey Manucharian" <sergeym(a)rmico.com> wrote: Excerpts from Smith Dhumbumroong's message of Thursday 12-Nov-09 10:49am: > Better to install both Arch 32-bit and 64-bit on the same machine > (dual boot) and run the tests... I've already did it. > from my personal experience certain operations, such as video/music > encoding, is a _lot_ faster... Well, in my ThinkPad R61 (Core2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz) I got 1.1 times difference (in favour of 64-bit) with couple of videofiles encoded. (By the way, it means that VM performs almost 1.5 worse then the real HW). Thanks, Sergey

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Re: [arch-general] No sound after hal update
by Christopher Daley 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

Also, make sure your user is a member of the group 'audio'? If you're still having problems then run ls -l /dev/snd and show us the output On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Jozsef <jozefk(a)gmx.com> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, A Rojas wrote: > > > I just updated to hal 0.5.13-3 and after rebooting the soundcard is not > > accessible to non-root users anymore, so there is no sound. Any idea how > to > > solve this? > > Thanks > > > -- > Best, > Jozsef Kurucity | Web & Graphic Designer > +971 50 6783113 | jozefk(a)gmx.com >

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[arch-general] аrch x86_64 and i686 performance comparison
by Sergey Manucharian 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

Hi folks, The similar question most probably has been discussed many times, but I really cannot find a clear answer. There are some obvious thinks like 64-bit addressing, but how about math calculations performance? I've set up two identical virtual machines in vbox - one with Arch x86_64 and another with Arch i686. I ran mencoder in both over the same video and got the following figures: x86_64: 43 sec i686: 34 sec which make x86_64 not so impressive ;) Some time ago I read an article at AMD web site, they suggested using their math libs for writing programs instead of standard ones. In such a case a program with complex math involved can performs much better (personally I haven't tried). I'm just curious about other people's opinions on this subject. Cheers, Sergey

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[arch-general] Updated PKGBUILD for libftdi
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

* Updated to latest 0.16 version * convert $startdir vars in PKGBUILD -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D Index: libftdi/trunk/PKGBUILD =================================================================== --- libftdi/trunk/PKGBUILD (revision 58698) +++ libftdi/trunk/PKGBUILD (working copy) @@ -2,21 +2,21 @@ # Maintainer: Tobias Powalowski <tpowa(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=libftdi -pkgver=0.15 -pkgrel=3 +pkgver=0.16 +pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A library to talk to FTDI chips" arch=("i686" "x86_64") url="http://www.intra2net.com/en/developer/libftdi/download.php" license=("GPL2") depends=("libusb") +options=('!libtool') source=("http://www.intra2net.com/en/developer/libftdi/download/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar…") -options=('!libtool') +md5sums=('524af6f39aefa1a4e8fac12c6be0ed06') build() { cd $srcdir/$pkgname-$pkgver sed -i '/no-install/d' examples/Makefile.in || return 1 ./configure --prefix=/usr make || return 1 - make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install + make DESTDIR=$pkgdir install } -md5sums=('d585c9758cb7085a4448c7c4ece07d8e')

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[arch-general] Segmentation fault in X after last upgrade
by Magnus Therning 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

I just upgraded this morning and after a reboot X refuses to start. My /var/log/Xorg.0.log contains a message about a segmentation fault and a short backtrace. I'm on AMD64, with an nVidia card (I'm using the Xorg driver, nv). Anyone else seeing something the same behaviour? Any suggestions on how I can get my system back to normal again? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe

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