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[arch-general] missing vbox_build_module
by richard terry 14 Dec '07

14 Dec '07

I wonder if anyone has anyidea about this, I posted previously and got no reply. May laptop is 1.8 celeron + ati, I upgraded system > no X, tried reconfiguring X to no avail (X wouldn't boot at all, just seemed to lock up). I downgraded back to kernel26-2.6.23.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, and kde loaded fine, but virtualbox wouldn't load (no front-end gui), no error logs generated, the command just hangs in the terminal. looked everywhere for the /usr/bin/vbox_build_module to rebuild the kernel module but dosn't seem to exist on the computer. Did an updatedb etc first to try and find it. Checked out the forum and of course all the posts mention to use that file. doing a pacman -Ql <package name> also it seems the file needed to rebuild the kernel module is not in any of them. Any Idea's appreciated. Richard

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[arch-general] xfce4-menu-popup and keybinding problem
by _saiko 13 Dec '07

13 Dec '07

Hi all actually i noticed this problem since the beginning as i installed arch whatever key i use for binding xfc4-popup-menu there are problems. Problems when like... the menu opens only after.. 10-20 keypresses sometimes it doesn't interestingly enough when firefox is maximised then the menu appears after i press the key i binded for like... 3 times and i noticed that i tried both xbindkeys and xfce integrated key binder same result i use -Syu regularly also noticed that Xorg process gets to eat like.. 7% cpu when i hit the binded key repeatedly (and the menu doesn't open) when the key is not binded repeated hiting it doesn't have any impact on Xorg process it's a really bizarre thing all other bindings work flawlessly also when i reassign the keys that are binded to xfce4-popup-menu they work too... Also don't know where to look for some output Xorg logs don't show anything weird :/ hope somebody helps me out

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[arch-general] kernel oopses when using modules
by Ryan Sims 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

I posted[1] to the forums about this when I thought it was an nvidia problem, but now it seems to be more general. I recently upgraded to kernel26-2.6.23.9-1 from 2.6.23.8-1, and now I get oopses when certain modules are accessed. For example: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0000000b printing eip: c016c4da *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT SMP Modules linked in: ext2 w83627ehf hwmon_vid ipv6 ohci1394 ieee1394 firewire_ohci firewire_core crc_itu_t tsdev usbhid hid ff_memless usb_storage ide_core intel_agp agpgart ppp_generic sky2 sg evdev thermal processor fan button battery ac kqemu i2c_i801 i2c_dev i2c_core coretemp snd_hda_intel snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_hwdep snd soundcore slhc skge rtc ext3 jbd mbcache sd_mod sr_mod cdrom ehci_hcd uhci_hcd usbcore ahci ata_generic pata_jmicron libata CPU: 1 EIP: 0060:[<c016c4da>] Not tainted VLI EFLAGS: 00210206 (2.6.23-ARCH #1) EIP is at find_vma+0xa/0x70 eax: 00000003 ebx: af09d000 ecx: af09d000 edx: af09d000 esi: 00000003 edi: af09d000 ebp: f5d94000 esp: f490de1c ds: 007b es: 007b fs: 00d8 gs: 0033 ss: 0068 Process qemu (pid: 7434, ti=f490c000 task=f5d94000 task.ti=f490c000) Stack: 00000114 af09d000 c016cc1d 00000114 f9590000 af09d000 c016b084 f5d94000 00000003 00000003 00000000 00000022 f9590000 f9590000 f9590000 00000114 f9590000 f9590000 00000002 f935345f 00000001 00000001 00000000 f490de80 Call Trace: [<c016cc1d>] find_extend_vma+0x1d/0x70 [<c016b084>] get_user_pages+0x44/0x2d0 [<f935345f>] kqemu_lock_user_page+0x3f/0x80 [kqemu] [<f93549d7>] mon_user_map+0xe7/0x110 [kqemu] [<f93552cb>] kqemu_init+0x7eb/0xe20 [kqemu] [<c016ade1>] handle_mm_fault+0x501/0x760 [<c016e051>] mmap_region+0x311/0x440 [<f93531b9>] kqemu_ioctl+0x109/0x120 [kqemu] [<c018ae58>] do_ioctl+0x78/0x90 [<c018b09e>] vfs_ioctl+0x22e/0x2b0 [<c018b17d>] sys_ioctl+0x5d/0x70 [<c0104482>] sysenter_past_esp+0x6b/0xa1 [<c0360000>] wait_for_completion+0x30/0xa0 ======================= Code: 00 89 d1 8b 50 20 39 ca 73 05 89 48 20 89 ca 8b 48 14 39 d1 73 03 89 48 20 f3 c3 8d b6 00 00 00 00 56 85 c0 53 89 c6 89 d3 74 51 <8b> 50 08 85 d2 74 05 39 5a 08 77 35 8b 4e 04 85 c9 74 3e 31 d2 EIP: [<c016c4da>] find_vma+0xa/0x70 SS:ESP 0068:f490de1c I don't want to waste the bandwidth, but I have another one very much like it for nvidia trying to run opengl stuff. The dmesg above is the kqemu module and qemu. I'd suspect hardware, but I don't have any other reason to, and everything was working fine before the upgrade. Also, it's only these two modules (so far) and the BUG always happens at the same place, which seems a little too deterministic to be heat issues. I'm not familiar enough with the kernel changelog to be able to narrow things down that way. Any help? -- Ryan W Sims

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[arch-general] running two monitors
by Stewart Taylor 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi all I've been using Arch for a while now but one thing I can't get work the way I want is the two monitor setup. I don't use Xinerama but instead have two monitors set up with separate desktops, virtual desktops and icon sets. This suits the way I work much better than Xinerama. I only turn on the second monitor when I need to use it and here's the problem. If I turn it on after xorg has started then the monitor ( under KDE ) defaults to 1360 x 768 instead of 1024 x 768 that I have it set to. I can change the display settings and all is well until the next time. If I turn on the monitor before xorg starts then all is as it should be. I've used the configuration under Gentoo, Mandriva and Ubuntu with no problems. There appears to be something different in the way Arch is configured but so far I've not been able to find it. Has anyone got any ideas please? TIA Stewart

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[arch-general] alsamixer doesn't work.
by Jackson Robertson 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi list, I have had this problem for a little while now and haven't been able to find a solution. When I run alsamixer in console I'm getting this error... "ALSA lib control.c:874:(snd_ctl_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" After checking the arch wiki, it said to try and reinstall the kernel, I've tried this and it had no effect on the problem. This problem leads to me not being able to use keytouch as keytouch uses amixer to change the volume and amixer uses alsa, so I just get a bunch of errors when I use keytouch. Does anybody on the list have any ideas on this? Thanks for the help. Jackson

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[arch-general] Xfce plugins
by _saiko 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi all. Since a certain upgrade (regular -Syu) the tips on xfce plug-ins that are located on panels aren't updating their contents as they should. It's a bit hard to explain so i'll give sshot: http://pub.insanity.in/img/scrshot/2007-12-08-132537_1280x1024_scrot.png The data in that tip/popup, or whatever u call it (stats of transfer speed etc..), got updated while i just had mouse over it Now i have to constantly move the mouse over the trigger area that raises the tip so that the data inside gets updated. It's annoying actually when u like to have such handy statistics reading :) Did also somebody else noticed this? Also i'm not sure if this is only Xfce's fault so if somebody running a different distro and newest xfce could confirm? Thanks for any usefull info

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[arch-general] Package group xorg-video-drivers: intel conflict
by Michael Towers 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Since the addition of xf86-video-intel it has become impossible to install the xorg-video-drivers group via the group name (because of the conflict with xf86-video-i810). I guess there is no guideline outlawing this - I suppose something like this could, theoretically, happen more often. But it is a bit annoying when doing installations which are supposed to run on various machines. I don't want to make a request or anything here - I don't know what I could ask for. I just thought I'd point it out.

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[arch-general] Danish wiki pages now available!
by Damir Perisa 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Thursday 06 December 2007, you wrote: | We are a group of danish Arch Linux users there translate and make | new articles on the wiki.archlinux.org on danish (da_DK). | | Can we get 'da' on the i18n list in the top of the | wiki.archlinux.org and link to the danish site: | http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page_%28Dansk%29 sure, just added your lang to the list, thanx for letting me know! best regards, Damir Archlinux -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><

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[arch-general] Kernel Module Package Guidelines
by Michael Towers 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

I recently posted a feature request for the aufs dependency on aufs-utils to be removed (because the latter is not necessary for using aufs). The bug was closed by the maintainer because "This is the standard way of packaging modules in Arch: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Module_Package_Guidelines". Of course he was right: "... make sure nvidia depends on nvidia-utils ..." It's maybe a rather small point, but to me this requirement seems a bit excessive. I would suggest rephrasing this to: "... if nvidia-utils is required for the use of nvidia, make sure nvidia depends on nvidia-utils ..."

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[arch-general] Change kernel version or module dir at bootprompt?
by Gerhard Brauer 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Hello, i've searched a while and found nothing. And AFAIK there isnt't an chance to do this. But maybe one of you know a trick, a magic... Is it possible to change either the kernel version (what uname -r says) or the location of the kernel modul dir at boottime? I think about an easy solution to backup an arch kernel with it's modules. But since the kernel version is fix and releated to the module dir one could not simply copy /lib/modules/foo.bar to ex. /lib/modules/foo.bar-backup. Anyone knows a trick? Thanks Gerhard -- Virus gefunden - Bundestrojaner_BT32/W Dieser Schaedling steht auf dem Boden der freiheitlich-demokratischen Grundordnung. Sie haben folgende Moeglichkeiten: Mit Nein die Abwehr abzuwenden oder mit jeder anderen Taste die Installation fortzusetzen.

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[arch-general] FTP-ISO 2007.08-2 Bug (wrong PATH for root)
by Gerhard Brauer 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Hello, a user of archlinux.de have point me to problems with his install from current ftp-iso. Many commands (reboot, adduser) were not found. I've tested it here and see that after the installation root has a silly PATH. There is for ex. /usr/gnu/bin but not /sbin or /usr/sbin. At the moment i try a second install to be sure that i've make no mistake. I searched for a bugreport, but found nothing. I'll write one if i can be sure of this wrong path, ok ? Bye Gerhard archlinux.de -- It's nice to be important... but it's more important to be nice.

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[arch-general] Soft vs Hard links for man pages
by Allan McRae 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Hi all, I was looking into bug FS#5392 [1] which details makepkg's inability to compress all man pages. Specifically, it fails when files are hard linked because gzip does not work on them. I have made a fairly simple fix for this. For a specific man page, it removes all other hard links, compresses the page and then regenerates the links. When the links are regenerated, is it preferable that they are hard linked again or should they be soft linked? I am leaning towards hard linked because that is the way they were upstream. However, the script I used to use to compress man pages in LFS had an option to turn them into soft links, so there must have been demand for soft links. Note that with soft links, it would be the first file found by "find" that everything would be linked to and that may seem strange in some contexts. Probably another reason to stick with hard links. Also, one of the comments in the bug report [2] mentions that bz2 files are not changed. I could at the same time add a change to convert these to gzip format but does that really matter? Both gzip and bzip2 are in core/base. Finally, now pacman has been moved to git I really have no idea how to create a diff! Can anybody suggest a good git cheatsheet? Cheers Allan [1]http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5392 [2]http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5392#comment15422

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[arch-general] firefox-i18n
by Gerhard Brauer 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Hello, thanks for fixing firefox (#8780). Could someone of the DEVs also build a fixed package of firefox-i18n (#8786)? Bye Gerhard -- HAL is running Windows...

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[arch-general] Architecture neutral packages
by Mark Constable 02 Dec '07

02 Dec '07

Howdy folks, I'm not sure if this has been covered before but has anyone any thoughts about an architecture idependent package class for packages that are not specifically i686 or x86_64 ? For instance, I recently built a custom package for the fluidr3 soundfont that ended up being 80Mb or so and when it came time to build packages for both i686 and x86_64 I ended up with two copies of the binary package in both categories. This is quite redundant and the same principle *probably* applies to *some* other packages as well. One other example package that comes to mind is aurscripts from AUR which contains a bash script which is quite independent of architecture. My concern is that I would like to go down the path of releasing tutorials that will include podcasts and screencasts that could end being quite large and, as things currently stand, if I build them for both architectures I will end up with 2 copies. Any thoughts or workarounds on this issue ? --markc

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[arch-general] Encrypted swap and suspend-to-disk
by Felix Leckow 01 Dec '07

01 Dec '07

Hi, I just did a fresh Arch install with encrypted /, /home, and swap partitions, following the LUKS Encrypted Root[1] how-to in the wiki. I have trouble getting suspend-to-disk (using uswsusp[2] from AUR) to work: creating the suspend image works fine, but I can't resume for the simple reason that the encrypted swap that contains the image gets unlocked *after* suspend tries (and fails) to read from it. Is there any way to get this to work properly? Should I file a bug report, and if so against which package? [1]http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LUKS_Encrypted_Root [2]http://suspend.sourceforge.net/

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[arch-general] Firefox -2 package bug?
by Rodrigo Coacci 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

[rodrigo@kuat:~ ]$ LANG=C sudo pacman -S firefox resolving dependencies... done. looking for inter-conflicts... done. Targets: firefox-2.0.0.10-2 <-------------------------- Total Package Size: 9.36 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... done. cleaning up... done. (1/1) checking for file conflicts [#####################] 100% (1/1) upgrading firefox [#####################] 100% [rodrigo@kuat:~ ]$ LANG=C sudo pacman -Qi firefox Name : firefox Version : 2.0.0.10-1 <--------------------------- URL : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox License : MPL GPL LGPL Groups : None Provides : mozilla-firefox Depends On : gtk2>=2.12.0 pango>=1.16.1 gcc-libs libxt libidl2 mozilla-common nss>=3.11.7 desktop-file-utils Removes : None Required By : firefox-i18n Conflicts With : mozilla-firefox Installed Size : 27104.34 K Packager : Alexander Baldeck <alexander(a)archlinux.org> Architecture : i686 Build Date : Tue Nov 27 17:21:26 2007 UTC Build Type : Unknown Install Date : Fri Nov 30 01:32:00 2007 UTC Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package Install Script : Yes Description : Standalone web browser from mozilla.org Anyone else or its just me? -- Cheers Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds

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[arch-general] Mailing list rename
by Aaron Griffin 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hey guys, You may have noticed a new address up there in the From line (unless you got this via the announce list) The main mailing list has been renamed, from "arch" to "arch-general", and additionally "tur-users" has been renamed to "aur-general". The reason? The naming was unclear, especially on the tur-users list. So, please try to use this address when posting to the list (the old address will work fine for now, but I can't predict how long). Additionally, I have kept archive symlinks so that the following two are the same: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/ http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch/ Sorry for all of you that have to update your mail filter rules, but it's better this way - I promise 8) Thanks, Aaron

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[arch-general] Old version of gnome-system-tools in [unstable]
by Hugo Doria 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hi, There is a very old version of gnome-system-tools (and system-tools-backends) package in [unstable]. A newer one is already available in [community]. Would it not be better to remove the older one? What would be the procedure to do that? I tried to contact the packager but i got no response so far. Thanks. -- []'s Hugo Doria http://hdoria.archlinux-br.org GNU/Linux user #359340 - http://counter.li.org

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[arch-general] Removing ssmtp and nbsmtp
by Aaron Griffin 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Just a quick question for all of you guys. Does anyone use ssmtp or nbsmtp? They are both in extra, along with msmtp, and it seems like quite a lot of duplication. So based on developer usage, we're most likely going to boot ssmtp and nbsmtp. Does anyone have a problem with that? They *will* be moved to the AUR and can be move to community if any TU wants them. Opinions?

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