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[arch-general] makepkg not stripping bin/libs
by Mark Constable 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

makegpkg 3.1.1 line ~752 has this... find {,usr/{,local/},opt/}{bin,lib,sbin} -type f and I can't see how that will ever work, and it doesn't for me, however this does work (for me)... find -regex ".+/bin/.+" -o -regex ".+/lib/.+" -o -regex ".+/sbin/.+" -type f I recently rebuilt kdemod4 and it ended up being 1.9Gb whereas it should have been around >400Mb. --markc

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[arch-general] Pacman-3.1.1-1 not reading 'provides' field
by Ravi Desai 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

Hey, I'm using pacman-3.1.1-1 from testing, and have installed kdemod-4.0. I'm not able to install lyx since lyx requires qt and asks for qtmod to be removed. However, 'pacman -Qi qtmod' has the following --- Provides : qt 4.3.3 --- How do I solve this problem? Is it a bug? Should I file a bug report? I looked at bugs.archlinux.org, but couldn't find anything similar. Thanks, Ravster

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Updating 'man'
by Grigorios Bouzakis 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:19:19AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > LESSCHARSET > > But that only affects less, and not man pages. It's a fine line, but I > know at least a few people that don't use less as their MANPAGER Those people should. If color is the reason for using most, see http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/572-less-colors-for-man-pages.html I have added that to the Wiki too: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Post_Installation_Tips#Getting_a_colore… Less is much more powerful than most. Greg

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[arch-general] Does pacman support "noarch" now?
by 甘露 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

All fonts do not need a "i686" or "x86_64" option but in my memory pacman doesn't support noarch, which makes PKGBUILDs for fonts unable to compile without a unnecessary line. Thanks.

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[arch-general] makepkg running as root
by richard terry 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

Sometimes I build packages from AUR, and (obviously wrongly), do this as root. Today I got this message: ==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is a BAD idea and can cause permanent, catastrophic damage to your system. If you wish to run as root, please use the --asroot option. Can someone explain. Richard

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[arch-general] makepkg running as root
by richard terry 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:42:10 pm you wrote: > On Jan 21, 2008 9:33 PM, richard terry <rterry(a)gnumed.net> wrote: > > Sometimes I build packages from AUR, and (obviously wrongly), do this as > > root. > > > > Today I got this message: > > > > ==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is a BAD idea and can cause > > permanent, catastrophic damage to your system. If you > > wish to run as root, please use the --asroot option. > > > > Can someone explain. > > What's to explain that that message didn't already explain? Just what it could do to your system. See the attatched PKGBUILD (which I adapted from an old one in AuR) I tried to compile it as myself, and it crashed at the end of the build, (sorry didn't keep messages), saying something about not being able to write to some directory or other (ok, so I'm not a geek!!!). When I re-built it as root it worked fine. BTW, could you/someone checkout this PKGBUILD file and tell me what's wrong with the way I've adapted it (I'm assuming its not correct, though it works as I did it with no understanding of what I'm doing. Thanks. Richard

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[arch-general] Qt3 path setting, is it right?
by Neil Darlow 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

Hi, I've been building bouml (from AUR) successfully until Qt4 arrived. Examining the build failure it appears that although QTDIR is correctly set for Qt3, the placement of QTDIR/bin at the end of PATH in qt3.sh results in Qt4's qmake taking precedence over that of Qt3. For bouml's build mechanism (no ./configure involved) this leads to qmake-generated files containing resource paths of Qt4. I've managed to get the build to work by placing QTDIR/bin at the head of PATH, using a sed command, but it's seems hackish to me. Is the sourcing of qt3.sh from /etc/profile.d a sensible idea? Would it be better provided as part of the qt3 package and sourced into the PKGBUILD's environment directly? And, surely, placing QTDIR/bin at the end of PATH is not a good idea? Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?
by Rodrigo Coacci 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing? -- Cheers Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds

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[arch-general] question about vlc package
by François Charette 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Today I needed to look at a video stream (with firefox) that required the vlc mozilla plugin. So I installed the vlc package but was surprised that it does not provide the plugin. The latter is in AUR/unsupported (as vlc-plugin) and requires building the whole beast just to have that one little .so file. Being a TU I could move vlc-plugin to community, but I first wanted to ask whether there is any compelling reason for not providing it with the vlc package in the first place? Thanks, F

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[arch-general] Subversion error?
by Loui 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hello! I don't know if this should go in flyspray because I'm using testing pkgs and such so I'll just write here. I think subversion needs to be rebuilt to link to the new Perl. I get an error when using git-svn /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/current/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/SVN/_Core/_Core.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr I built 1.4.6 it myself and it got past that error but I hit another one: Bad URL passed to RA layer: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad' at /usr/bin/git-svn line 1043 I also removed subversion-neon.patch because a hunk failed... maybe it was needed? I don't know. I admit I don't really know what's going on. Can someone smarter than me help me out? Thanks!

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[arch-general] arch32 -> arch64 migration without reinstalling
by bardo 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Since I've already got a 32bit laptop, I was thinking of migrating my Core 2 Duo to arch64 (as a TU it would be really helpful for building new packages and helping the other packagers). Now, this desktop is my main system, so I'm not really happy with the idea of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything (given that, at this time, I have more than 1700 installed packages). So here's the idea: is it crazy to dump the package list, boot from a cd, change my mirrors in x86_64, change pacman's installation root to my mounted disks, reinstall the world and then check for *.pac*? Is there any risk I can't see in doing this? Thanks, Corrado

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[arch-general] FreeNX issues
by Sergey Manucharian 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hi, Yesterday I've installed FeeNX for the first time. First of all I've found that "nxloadconfig" sets in LD_PRELOAD a path to libXrender.so.1.2, but the actual library is libXrender.so.1.2.2 and there is no corresponding link. Ok, this issue is fixed simply (but it's a bug, right?). Now when I run nxclient and get the remote desktop (xfce), I cannot run some programs, e.g. mc, mplayer - they just crash with segfault. Could somebody give me the direction to fix it? Any ideas? Thanks. Cheers, Sergey

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Arch Schwag
by Jaroslaw Swierczynski 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

They do ship to Europe but I'm not satisfied with their product quality. I bought a mug and a baseball jersey. While the mug is great, the printings on the jersey are poor and I would expect more from the material. -- Jaroslaw Swierczynski <swiergot(a)gmail.com> www.archlinux.org | www.juvepoland.com

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[arch-general] [translation] String freeze for pacman 3.1.1 release
by Dan McGee 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

We've weeded out a handful of bugs and issues since 3.1.0, so it is time to call for a string freeze for 3.1.1. I've CC-ed this to the Arch General list to see if we can get a helping hand with some of our currently neglected translations. As this list may not be quite as familiar with how everything works, PLEASE reply to the list or privately to me if you have questions or want to help out but are not sure how. Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) pre-release updates. http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ I would like to get the release out within the next 7 days, so the sooner the better for the translations. Languages we currently have: cs_CZ: Handled by Vojtěch Gondžala <vogo(a)seznam.cz> de: handled by Matthias Gorissen <matthias(a)archlinux.de> en_GB: Handled by Jeff Bailes <thepizzaking(a)gmail.com> es: status unknown, no current translator fr: Handled by Chantry Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> hu: Handled by Nagy Gabor <ngaba(a)bibl.u-szeged.hu> it: Handled by Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania(a)gmail.com> pl_PL: Work in progress by Mateusz Jedrasik <m.jedrasik(a)gmail.com> pt_BR: status unknown, no current translator ru_RU: status unknown, no current translator If you wish to help translate, but your language is already listed as handled by someone, please contact them at the above addresses. If the language is listed as "no current translator", then please reply to ALL on this message stating you are doing the translation so we do not have duplicated effort (although you are more than welcome to work in teams). Once you have updated or completed a translation, simply tar and gzip the files up and send them back to pacman-dev(a)archlinux.org with a [translation] prefix in the message. For those that are used to the old method of updating translations (GIT patches), those are still acceptable as well. Please prefix the patch with "translation:" so it can be picked out easily. HOWEVER, if at all possible, please do not needlessly update the line numbers in the code! It makes it much easier to see which translations have been changed and updated if line number changes are not 90% of the patch. The "translations" branch is located in my GIT repo; one of the following things will probably be of help. http://code.toofishes.net/gitweb.cgi?p=pacman.git;a=shortlog;h=translations git remote add dan http://code.toofishes.net/gitprojects/pacman.git git checkout -b translations dan/translations -Dan

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[arch-general] New web page
by Carl Mueller 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

The new web page looks great! Congratulations to all involved. Carl Mueller

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[arch-general] Weird makepkg problem
by David Rosenstrauch 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi. I'm the maintainer for the todotxt package in the AUR (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=7673) While I was trying to update the PKGBUILD today, something really peculiar happened. The todotxt source gets downloaded in a zip file format. But instead of unzipping the zip file to the src directory, for some reason makepkg is *copying* the zip to the src directory. Consequently, the PKGBUILD can't find the files it needs and fails. Anybody know what caused this (it wasn't always this way, as I've been maintaining this package for over a year now) and how to fix it? TIA, DR

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[arch-general] libdts + fglrx questions
by richard terry 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Every time I upgrade I get: ?replace libdts with libdca, and replace fglrx with catalyst. What's the difference, is it safe to say yes (especially to the video driver)? Thanks

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[arch-general] Problem with latest KDE update in testing
by Karolina Lindqvist 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Am I the only one who got problems after the latest KDE update (from testing)? I got crashes in nspluginviewer all the time. I solved it by building a new version of kdelibs/kdebase from CVS, which appears to have some bug-fixes. Karolina

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[arch-general] Comment box in flag package Out-of-date
by Karolina Lindqvist 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Is it possible to make the box for comment, in the flag package out-of-date, a little bit bigger? As it is now, it is hard to see what you write, if you want to explain your findings.

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[arch-general] famd problems
by _saiko 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Famd has always been more problematic then useful for me. On random occasions after i plugged a mp3 player or an external usb drive it would just start using cpu @ 100% and there was no change at all. I had to kill the process. Just now i plugged my USB drive and wanted to copy something. CPU usage was 100% and iostat reported <3MB/s rate non sequential! I checked the processes and as expected ntfs-3g driver was using most but famd was there too! So i nicely killed famd once again... and transfer rate went @ ~22MB/s as expected Is there a way to live without famd since all it brings are problems for me? It's required by many things so i can't just remove it. I'm doing a regular -Syu and this problem was present ... since like forever Any explanation to this? Also i'm using xfce, 2GB ram, separate physical system drive Many thanks

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra signoff] nvidia/nvidia-utils 169.07
by Jesse Young 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:11:34 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > I added new nvidia drivers 169.07 for i686 and x86_64 to testing. My > nvidia machine is out of order for now, so please sign off both > architectures and as many GPUs as possible. > > I am also interested in signoffs from users, so please don't hesitate to > reply to this message to the arch-general list! > everything looks fine on i686, except for this error on upgrade, I don't know how pacman lost track of it, unless I was installinng my own nvidia* a long time ago. nvidia-utils: /usr/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1 exists in filesystem lspci: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Status Report: 2008-01-07
by Loui 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

On Jan 7, 2008 11:39 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > * ArchCon 2009: Big Baaad Idea > > This is staying right here until someone decides to come to Chicago to visit 8) > No, the US is not dangerous! Hah. Chicago sounds good to me. :D

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[arch-general] forcing speed/duplex on Intel e1000 driver
by Chuck Remes 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

A service provider has forced all of their switch ports to 100/full. I need to do the same on a box running archlinux x86_64 w/kernel 2.6.22- ARCH and the Intel e1000 driver. I edited /etc/modprobe.conf to contain these lines: e1000 Speed=100,100,100,100 e1000 Duplex=2,2,2,2 However, the messages in /var/log/kernel.log indicate the interfaces are still coming up as 100/half which implies they are still attempting to autonegotiate and failing therefore defaulting to 100 (which can be sensed) and half-duplex (which can't be sensed, so this is the default). What's the best way to force the driver into 100/full on boot?

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[arch-general] iwlwifi in [testing] feedback
by Tobias Powalowski 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Hi just wanted to know if some user already tested the iwlwifi driver from [testing], if it works for you. thanks for feedback greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] should ecj say like this
by Karolina Lindqvist 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Look at this: $ ecj Unrecognized option : /usr/share/java/libgcj-4.2.jar I am not able to get any other respone from ecj, as intalled from the binary i686 distribution. Does it say the same for everone else? Is it supposed to say this? Karolina

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[arch-general] Depends loop in gcc-gcj and eclipse-ecj
by Karolina Lindqvist 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

gcc-gcj depends on eclipse-ecj which depends on gcc-gcj, making a dependency loop.

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[arch-general] Advanced pacman dependency functions
by bardo 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

Hi all. I was looking for a way to do a couple of things with pacman that may be useful, mainly for package maintainers. Maybe they can already be done and I just didn't find out how. I used to use pt-deptree, but it hasn't been working for quite some time now. The first one is finding all the packages that directly depend on a specific package, even if they're not installed. This came to my mind considering those upgrades which break other software, like x264 and tcl/tk (8.5 has just been released): it could be a lot easier to test if all packages work properly with the new version or if it is necessary to rebuild them. Second, I often find myself looking for package dependencies along the tree, because I need to know, given two packages, if one of the two depends on the other or not. This is good when I'm deciding which dependencies should be put in a package, becuase the cycle edit-makepkg-namcap is sometimes impractical when the package has a lot of dependencies. Is anybody able to help? TIA, Corrado

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[arch-general] azureus and avidemux, a note
by Alexandros K-K 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

azureus hasnt been updated for ages: the version on the repos is 3.0.1.6 and the newest one is 3.0.4.2 it has been flagged as out of date for quite a long time too avidemux on the other hand still lists spidermonkey as a dependency, maybe other unecessary stuff too http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Compiling_Avidemux#Mandator… cheerio, aeolist

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[arch-general] IRC Spammer / Impersonator
by Matthew 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

This morning I was informed by a TU via Private Message on IRC that there were spammer impersonating me. He first ask what happened last night and as I had no idea what he was talking about this was when I first discovered what happened. There are some wonderful people (for lack of a nicer term) who think its funny to impersonate me and spam the channel. My hostname is almost always adsl-75-33-32-137.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net very rarely do I connect to IRC using a different net connection (usually just ssh into my home box). The ip is dynamic so it will change, but it should match with mezoko.net I think these spammers are ajnewbold and impl. They helped me out with some php coding about a year ago. They were nice people, but they slowly started pull crap on me and I didn't put up with so I think this their revenge. **Ajnewbold and impl (he was under the alias of "hary" something, I don't remember) spammed the channel about a week ago so I'm not sure if they'll stop, hence the reason for this posting. So basically I want to clear up a few things 1. The spammers last night were not me 2. If username mezoko does not have a host name similar to dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net there is a good chance it is not me 3. To any TU/OP/Dev please do not ban my user name from IRC, please ban the hostname if the problem arises again. Thank you all for your understanding, -Mezoko

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[arch-general] problem compiling for i586 with new makepkg
by Karolina Lindqvist 26 Dec '07

26 Dec '07

There is a problem with compiling with CHOST="i586" with the new pacman/makepkg. It simply refuses with the message: pkgname is not available for the 'i586' architecture. Note that many packages may need a line added to their PKGBUILD such as arch=('i586'). To edit each and every PKGBUILD for each and every package and every update appears like quite a big work. And since I could not find any option to turn that "feature" off, or any hook to SED it in, I just commented it out in makepkg. What was the thought with this? The -w option is also taken away from makepkg. Why? (I found the alternate solution, but still) Karolina

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[arch-general] xkeyboard-config 1.1-1
by Grigorios Bouzakis 25 Dec '07

25 Dec '07

Since todays update of xkeyboard-config 1.1-1 i have been getting some errors like the following: expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc As a result leds arent working & probably some other stuff i havent noticed yet. Anyone noticed similar behaviour? Greg

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[arch-general] texlive-bin depends on xorg-server, why?
by Dan Soendergaard 24 Dec '07

24 Dec '07

Dear Archers, This is the first time I use a mailing list, please bare over with me in case of any strange behaviour on my part (I've already mailed this message to the wrong address once, sorry!). I discovered that texlive-bin depends on the xorg-server package which seems strange for a terminal programme. Why this dependency and how can it be removed (if possible without breaking LaTeX)? I ask because I'm installing an Archlinux server and want the possibility of compiling my documents through SSH no matter what computer I'm on. Is it possible to circumvent the installation of xorg-server? Sincerely, Dan Sondergaard

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[arch-general] Problem connecting Sansa e250 with Arch
by Mordechai Peller 23 Dec '07

23 Dec '07

The Sansa e200 series can connect either via MTP or MSC. With the help of libmtp I can connect via MTP, but I need to be able to connect via MSC.When I booted an Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD it worked fine, so the problem is with Arch, or at least my install of it. I suspect it's a udev or driver issue, but I'm not sure. Thanks

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[arch-general] Kernel OOPS with AVM fwlanusb
by Gerhard Brauer 22 Dec '07

22 Dec '07

Hello, i have a AVM wlan usb stick for testing, usb id 057C:6201. I try the avm linux driver with kernel 2.6.23.12-2. Build and modprobe is ok, inserting the stick gaves after a long period of waiting the wlan0 device. iwpriv wlan0 work, iwconfig stopped with a segfault and a oops. I'm not a kernel guru or developer, but maybe could someone say (without a full dump or so) what the reason for this trap? (Yeah, i know the short answer: tainted by fwlanusb ;-) If @tpowa reads this: if see strcopy in trap, could this be something similar we have had with avm fritz card and the objcopy-Patches? Thank you for having a look at this! Legend: 14:33:10 after modprobe and wlan0 ready 14:33:45 iwconfig ------------- Dec 22 14:33:10 tux1 fwlanusb: Config manager successully created and started. Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 printing eip: Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 f8d9c38e Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 *pde = 00000000 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Oops: 0000 [#1] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 PREEMPT SMP Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Modules linked in: fwlanusb(P) usb_storage ide_core appletalk ipx p8022 psnap llc p8023 nvidia(P) ipv6 usblp usbhid hid ff_memless ppdev tsdev lp pcspkr container parport_pc parport rtc_cmos rtc_core rtc_lib ppp_generic psmouse serio_raw i2c_i801 i2c_core ehci_hcd intel_agp agpgart uhci_hcd shpchp pci_hotplug sg evdev thermal processor fan button battery ac smsc47m1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_mixer_oss snd soundcore ac97_bus slhc eepro100 e100 mii usbcore ext3 jbd mbcache sr_mod cdrom sd_mod ata_piix ata_generic libata Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 CPU: 0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EIP: 0060:[<f8d9c38e>] Tainted: P VLI Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EFLAGS: 00210282 (2.6.23-ARCH #1) Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EIP is at strcpy+0xd/0x1b [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 eax: f1cc1f44 ebx: ffffffa1 ecx: f1cc1f44 edx: f8de351e Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 esi: 00000000 edi: c035b984 ebp: c038602c esp: f1cc1e54 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 ds: 007b es: 007b fs: 00d8 gs: 0033 ss: 0068 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Process iwconfig (pid: 7769, ti=f1cc0000 task=f1cc2a80 task.ti=f1cc0000) Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Stack: c0419500 f1cc1f44 00008b01 f8ddf95c c035b984 00000000 f1e8a000 c015e356 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 c041950c c0419500 00200246 c04195c0 c04195c0 f1cc1f34 c0360d8a 00008b01 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 ffffffa1 f8825400 f1e8a000 c04195cc 22222222 22222222 22222222 f1e8a000 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Call Trace: Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8ddf95c>] fwlanusb_get_name+0xc/0x10 [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c035b984>] ioctl_standard_call+0x64/0x370 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c015e356>] filemap_fault+0x206/0x490 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c0360d8a>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x16a/0x2d0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8825400>] e100_do_ioctl+0x0/0x30 [e100] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c035c046>] wext_handle_ioctl+0x3b6/0x450 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8ddf950>] fwlanusb_get_name+0x0/0x10 [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8ddf950>] fwlanusb_get_name+0x0/0x10 [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c028b4a7>] pty_write+0x47/0x60 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c02daf71>] dev_ioctl+0x341/0x350 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c012474e>] __wake_up+0x3e/0x60 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c02cd5e0>] sock_ioctl+0x0/0x210 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c018aa3b>] do_ioctl+0x2b/0x90 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c018acce>] vfs_ioctl+0x22e/0x2b0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c018adad>] sys_ioctl+0x5d/0x70 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c0104472>] sysenter_past_esp+0x6b/0xa1 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c0360000>] schedule+0x4a0/0x5e0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 ======================= Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Code: c3 8b 4c 24 08 8b 54 24 0c 8b 44 24 10 89 4c 24 04 89 54 24 08 89 44 24 0c e9 b6 ff ff ff 57 56 83 ec 04 8b 74 24 14 8b 7c 24 10 <ac> aa 84 c0 75 fa 8b 44 24 10 59 5e 5f c3 57 56 83 ec 04 8b 74 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EIP: [<f8d9c38e>] strcpy+0xd/0x1b [fwlanusb] SS:ESP 0068:f1cc1e54 --------------------------- Bye Gerhard -- Dont't drink and root!

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[arch-general] Packages with non free licenses
by Grigorios Bouzakis 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Is Archlinux reconsidering license issues with the binary packages residing at its repos? It certainly seems so... http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2007-December/003780.html http://archlinux.org/news/374/ I really think this is a change for the better. I have been meaning to ask, AFAIK besides the codecs package the same license have ttf-ms-fonts. Is there any change to see them in unsupported too? IMO the fonts are a more complex issue than the codecs one, since most users have them installed. Theres already an AUR entry for them in unsupported http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=5418 Personally i dont know if they can be replaced by other sets of fonts but taking advantage of the opportunity i thought id bring this to the devs attention. Greg

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Re: [arch-general] missing vbox_build_module
by richard terry 19 Dec '07

19 Dec '07

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:05:47 pm you wrote: > Hi Richard, > > which virtualbox package did you install? virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-additions virtualbox-ose-additions-modules Also, I removed all of these, compiled the AUR version and ran that, again no file of that name is installed. Any further hints? is the virtualbox-ose-additions-modules the correct package? Richard > Only the virtualbox_bin > package of aur includes this file, for the opensource edition of > virtualbox you have to install "virtualbox-modules". > > --peter > > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 19:46 +1100, richard terry wrote: > > I wonder if anyone has anyidea about this, I posted previously and got no > > reply. > > > > May laptop is 1.8 celeron + ati, I upgraded system > no X, tried > > reconfiguring X to no avail (X wouldn't boot at all, just seemed to lock > > up). I downgraded back to kernel26-2.6.23.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, and kde > > loaded fine, but virtualbox wouldn't load (no front-end gui), no error > > logs generated, the command just hangs in the terminal. > > > > looked everywhere for the /usr/bin/vbox_build_module to rebuild the > > kernel module but dosn't seem to exist on the computer. Did an updatedb > > etc first to try and find it. Checked out the forum and of course all the > > posts mention to use that file. > > > > doing a pacman -Ql <package name> also it seems the file needed to > > rebuild the kernel module is not in any of them. > > > > Any Idea's appreciated. > > > > Richard

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[arch-general] bizarre site
by solsTiCe d'Hiver 19 Dec '07

19 Dec '07

hi. when i go to http://ftp.archlinux.org/, i got a site like the one showing up at http://www.response-o-matic.com/ should it be the ftp site of archlinux.org ?

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[arch-general] regarding kernel 2.6.23.11
by Hussam Al-Tayeb 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

There seems to be an issue with the alsa snapshot used in the kernel 2.6.23.11 package. It's reported here http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8948 For me, it breaks gstreamer. I opted to post here so people who are on testing don't update their kernel.

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[arch-general] Kiosktool, missing buttons.
by Jorge Leon 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

Hello all, I just installed "kiosktool" from extra but all the buttons (back, next, help, etc) are missing. The menus do appear, but no buttons, so the program is useless. This is wheather I start it as a user or as root. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Jorge.

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[arch-general] latest kernel killed my X/Virtual Box as well
by richard terry 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

did system upgrade and X wouldn't boot. Tried re-configuring no luck. Downgraded back 1 kernel and all works again, except virtual box won't appear (though the processes are running). Don't know if it's my laptop (has ati video card in it). Any explanation/help/hints

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[arch-general] where are the free fonts?
by Jeffrey Parke 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

what package contains the freesans, freeserif, and the freemono fonts. If i said there names wrong, please correct me. I last saw these fonts when i had ubuntu.

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[arch-general] Where is libdownload?
by Karolina Lindqvist 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

I am trying to compile archlinux from source, but I got stuck on pacman, since it depends on libdownload, and I just can't find libdownload source anywhere on the net, since the source location http://phraktured.net/libdownload/ appears to be permanently terminated. Where can I find the sources? Karolina

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[arch-general] Bug Day
by Roman Kyrylych 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

A Bug Day is scheduled on Saturday, 15th of December. The reason for this is to reduce the amount of old reports and feature requests. We will clear outdated reports, fix/implement those that already have patches provided or are trivial to fix/implement, discuss the pros & cons of implementing some feature requests, look at reports assigned to inactive/resigned devs, close/move reports for packages moved to Community/Unsupported. Join us at #archlinux-bugs channel on irc.freenode.net during 15th of December. As we live in different timezones not all devs will be available at the same time, but feel free to report your issues to any dev available online. Also please check your mailboxes that may contain notifications about comments made by devs and other users. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[arch-general] How to report bugs
by Karolina Lindqvist 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

When rebuilding from source, I find build problems here and there. I tried the http://bugs.archlinux.org/ web-page, but all I can do is looking at bug reports, but I find no way to report a new bug. How is it done? Or maybe build problems should not be reported as bugs, but in some other way? Karolina

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[arch-general] Building core/base packages
by R. Dale Thomas 14 Dec '07

14 Dec '07

I have an uptodate i686 chroot tree and am using a current abs tree for core/base packages. There appears to be a problem with several of the packages: 1) iputils-20070202-3 Error message: rdisc.c: In function 'do_fork': rdisc.c:250: error: 'OPEN_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) 2) dialog-1.1_20070604-3 Failure to download: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dialog/dialog_1.1-20070604.orig.tar… 3) tzdata-2007i-2 Failure to download: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2007h.tar.gz version j is present. rdt.

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[arch-general] missing vbox_build_module
by richard terry 14 Dec '07

14 Dec '07

I wonder if anyone has anyidea about this, I posted previously and got no reply. May laptop is 1.8 celeron + ati, I upgraded system > no X, tried reconfiguring X to no avail (X wouldn't boot at all, just seemed to lock up). I downgraded back to kernel26-2.6.23.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, and kde loaded fine, but virtualbox wouldn't load (no front-end gui), no error logs generated, the command just hangs in the terminal. looked everywhere for the /usr/bin/vbox_build_module to rebuild the kernel module but dosn't seem to exist on the computer. Did an updatedb etc first to try and find it. Checked out the forum and of course all the posts mention to use that file. doing a pacman -Ql <package name> also it seems the file needed to rebuild the kernel module is not in any of them. Any Idea's appreciated. Richard

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[arch-general] xfce4-menu-popup and keybinding problem
by _saiko 13 Dec '07

13 Dec '07

Hi all actually i noticed this problem since the beginning as i installed arch whatever key i use for binding xfc4-popup-menu there are problems. Problems when like... the menu opens only after.. 10-20 keypresses sometimes it doesn't interestingly enough when firefox is maximised then the menu appears after i press the key i binded for like... 3 times and i noticed that i tried both xbindkeys and xfce integrated key binder same result i use -Syu regularly also noticed that Xorg process gets to eat like.. 7% cpu when i hit the binded key repeatedly (and the menu doesn't open) when the key is not binded repeated hiting it doesn't have any impact on Xorg process it's a really bizarre thing all other bindings work flawlessly also when i reassign the keys that are binded to xfce4-popup-menu they work too... Also don't know where to look for some output Xorg logs don't show anything weird :/ hope somebody helps me out

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[arch-general] kernel oopses when using modules
by Ryan Sims 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

I posted[1] to the forums about this when I thought it was an nvidia problem, but now it seems to be more general. I recently upgraded to kernel26-2.6.23.9-1 from 2.6.23.8-1, and now I get oopses when certain modules are accessed. For example: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0000000b printing eip: c016c4da *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT SMP Modules linked in: ext2 w83627ehf hwmon_vid ipv6 ohci1394 ieee1394 firewire_ohci firewire_core crc_itu_t tsdev usbhid hid ff_memless usb_storage ide_core intel_agp agpgart ppp_generic sky2 sg evdev thermal processor fan button battery ac kqemu i2c_i801 i2c_dev i2c_core coretemp snd_hda_intel snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_hwdep snd soundcore slhc skge rtc ext3 jbd mbcache sd_mod sr_mod cdrom ehci_hcd uhci_hcd usbcore ahci ata_generic pata_jmicron libata CPU: 1 EIP: 0060:[<c016c4da>] Not tainted VLI EFLAGS: 00210206 (2.6.23-ARCH #1) EIP is at find_vma+0xa/0x70 eax: 00000003 ebx: af09d000 ecx: af09d000 edx: af09d000 esi: 00000003 edi: af09d000 ebp: f5d94000 esp: f490de1c ds: 007b es: 007b fs: 00d8 gs: 0033 ss: 0068 Process qemu (pid: 7434, ti=f490c000 task=f5d94000 task.ti=f490c000) Stack: 00000114 af09d000 c016cc1d 00000114 f9590000 af09d000 c016b084 f5d94000 00000003 00000003 00000000 00000022 f9590000 f9590000 f9590000 00000114 f9590000 f9590000 00000002 f935345f 00000001 00000001 00000000 f490de80 Call Trace: [<c016cc1d>] find_extend_vma+0x1d/0x70 [<c016b084>] get_user_pages+0x44/0x2d0 [<f935345f>] kqemu_lock_user_page+0x3f/0x80 [kqemu] [<f93549d7>] mon_user_map+0xe7/0x110 [kqemu] [<f93552cb>] kqemu_init+0x7eb/0xe20 [kqemu] [<c016ade1>] handle_mm_fault+0x501/0x760 [<c016e051>] mmap_region+0x311/0x440 [<f93531b9>] kqemu_ioctl+0x109/0x120 [kqemu] [<c018ae58>] do_ioctl+0x78/0x90 [<c018b09e>] vfs_ioctl+0x22e/0x2b0 [<c018b17d>] sys_ioctl+0x5d/0x70 [<c0104482>] sysenter_past_esp+0x6b/0xa1 [<c0360000>] wait_for_completion+0x30/0xa0 ======================= Code: 00 89 d1 8b 50 20 39 ca 73 05 89 48 20 89 ca 8b 48 14 39 d1 73 03 89 48 20 f3 c3 8d b6 00 00 00 00 56 85 c0 53 89 c6 89 d3 74 51 <8b> 50 08 85 d2 74 05 39 5a 08 77 35 8b 4e 04 85 c9 74 3e 31 d2 EIP: [<c016c4da>] find_vma+0xa/0x70 SS:ESP 0068:f490de1c I don't want to waste the bandwidth, but I have another one very much like it for nvidia trying to run opengl stuff. The dmesg above is the kqemu module and qemu. I'd suspect hardware, but I don't have any other reason to, and everything was working fine before the upgrade. Also, it's only these two modules (so far) and the BUG always happens at the same place, which seems a little too deterministic to be heat issues. I'm not familiar enough with the kernel changelog to be able to narrow things down that way. Any help? -- Ryan W Sims

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[arch-general] running two monitors
by Stewart Taylor 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi all I've been using Arch for a while now but one thing I can't get work the way I want is the two monitor setup. I don't use Xinerama but instead have two monitors set up with separate desktops, virtual desktops and icon sets. This suits the way I work much better than Xinerama. I only turn on the second monitor when I need to use it and here's the problem. If I turn it on after xorg has started then the monitor ( under KDE ) defaults to 1360 x 768 instead of 1024 x 768 that I have it set to. I can change the display settings and all is well until the next time. If I turn on the monitor before xorg starts then all is as it should be. I've used the configuration under Gentoo, Mandriva and Ubuntu with no problems. There appears to be something different in the way Arch is configured but so far I've not been able to find it. Has anyone got any ideas please? TIA Stewart

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[arch-general] alsamixer doesn't work.
by Jackson Robertson 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi list, I have had this problem for a little while now and haven't been able to find a solution. When I run alsamixer in console I'm getting this error... "ALSA lib control.c:874:(snd_ctl_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" After checking the arch wiki, it said to try and reinstall the kernel, I've tried this and it had no effect on the problem. This problem leads to me not being able to use keytouch as keytouch uses amixer to change the volume and amixer uses alsa, so I just get a bunch of errors when I use keytouch. Does anybody on the list have any ideas on this? Thanks for the help. Jackson

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[arch-general] Xfce plugins
by _saiko 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi all. Since a certain upgrade (regular -Syu) the tips on xfce plug-ins that are located on panels aren't updating their contents as they should. It's a bit hard to explain so i'll give sshot: http://pub.insanity.in/img/scrshot/2007-12-08-132537_1280x1024_scrot.png The data in that tip/popup, or whatever u call it (stats of transfer speed etc..), got updated while i just had mouse over it Now i have to constantly move the mouse over the trigger area that raises the tip so that the data inside gets updated. It's annoying actually when u like to have such handy statistics reading :) Did also somebody else noticed this? Also i'm not sure if this is only Xfce's fault so if somebody running a different distro and newest xfce could confirm? Thanks for any usefull info

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[arch-general] Package group xorg-video-drivers: intel conflict
by Michael Towers 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Since the addition of xf86-video-intel it has become impossible to install the xorg-video-drivers group via the group name (because of the conflict with xf86-video-i810). I guess there is no guideline outlawing this - I suppose something like this could, theoretically, happen more often. But it is a bit annoying when doing installations which are supposed to run on various machines. I don't want to make a request or anything here - I don't know what I could ask for. I just thought I'd point it out.

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[arch-general] Danish wiki pages now available!
by Damir Perisa 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Thursday 06 December 2007, you wrote: | We are a group of danish Arch Linux users there translate and make | new articles on the wiki.archlinux.org on danish (da_DK). | | Can we get 'da' on the i18n list in the top of the | wiki.archlinux.org and link to the danish site: | http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page_%28Dansk%29 sure, just added your lang to the list, thanx for letting me know! best regards, Damir Archlinux -- .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ ° ° ° ° ° ° ><((((º> ° ° ° ° ° <º)))>< <º)))><

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[arch-general] Kernel Module Package Guidelines
by Michael Towers 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

I recently posted a feature request for the aufs dependency on aufs-utils to be removed (because the latter is not necessary for using aufs). The bug was closed by the maintainer because "This is the standard way of packaging modules in Arch: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Module_Package_Guidelines". Of course he was right: "... make sure nvidia depends on nvidia-utils ..." It's maybe a rather small point, but to me this requirement seems a bit excessive. I would suggest rephrasing this to: "... if nvidia-utils is required for the use of nvidia, make sure nvidia depends on nvidia-utils ..."

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[arch-general] Change kernel version or module dir at bootprompt?
by Gerhard Brauer 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Hello, i've searched a while and found nothing. And AFAIK there isnt't an chance to do this. But maybe one of you know a trick, a magic... Is it possible to change either the kernel version (what uname -r says) or the location of the kernel modul dir at boottime? I think about an easy solution to backup an arch kernel with it's modules. But since the kernel version is fix and releated to the module dir one could not simply copy /lib/modules/foo.bar to ex. /lib/modules/foo.bar-backup. Anyone knows a trick? Thanks Gerhard -- Virus gefunden - Bundestrojaner_BT32/W Dieser Schaedling steht auf dem Boden der freiheitlich-demokratischen Grundordnung. Sie haben folgende Moeglichkeiten: Mit Nein die Abwehr abzuwenden oder mit jeder anderen Taste die Installation fortzusetzen.

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[arch-general] FTP-ISO 2007.08-2 Bug (wrong PATH for root)
by Gerhard Brauer 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Hello, a user of archlinux.de have point me to problems with his install from current ftp-iso. Many commands (reboot, adduser) were not found. I've tested it here and see that after the installation root has a silly PATH. There is for ex. /usr/gnu/bin but not /sbin or /usr/sbin. At the moment i try a second install to be sure that i've make no mistake. I searched for a bugreport, but found nothing. I'll write one if i can be sure of this wrong path, ok ? Bye Gerhard archlinux.de -- It's nice to be important... but it's more important to be nice.

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[arch-general] Soft vs Hard links for man pages
by Allan McRae 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Hi all, I was looking into bug FS#5392 [1] which details makepkg's inability to compress all man pages. Specifically, it fails when files are hard linked because gzip does not work on them. I have made a fairly simple fix for this. For a specific man page, it removes all other hard links, compresses the page and then regenerates the links. When the links are regenerated, is it preferable that they are hard linked again or should they be soft linked? I am leaning towards hard linked because that is the way they were upstream. However, the script I used to use to compress man pages in LFS had an option to turn them into soft links, so there must have been demand for soft links. Note that with soft links, it would be the first file found by "find" that everything would be linked to and that may seem strange in some contexts. Probably another reason to stick with hard links. Also, one of the comments in the bug report [2] mentions that bz2 files are not changed. I could at the same time add a change to convert these to gzip format but does that really matter? Both gzip and bzip2 are in core/base. Finally, now pacman has been moved to git I really have no idea how to create a diff! Can anybody suggest a good git cheatsheet? Cheers Allan [1]http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5392 [2]http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5392#comment15422

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[arch-general] firefox-i18n
by Gerhard Brauer 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Hello, thanks for fixing firefox (#8780). Could someone of the DEVs also build a fixed package of firefox-i18n (#8786)? Bye Gerhard -- HAL is running Windows...

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[arch-general] Architecture neutral packages
by Mark Constable 02 Dec '07

02 Dec '07

Howdy folks, I'm not sure if this has been covered before but has anyone any thoughts about an architecture idependent package class for packages that are not specifically i686 or x86_64 ? For instance, I recently built a custom package for the fluidr3 soundfont that ended up being 80Mb or so and when it came time to build packages for both i686 and x86_64 I ended up with two copies of the binary package in both categories. This is quite redundant and the same principle *probably* applies to *some* other packages as well. One other example package that comes to mind is aurscripts from AUR which contains a bash script which is quite independent of architecture. My concern is that I would like to go down the path of releasing tutorials that will include podcasts and screencasts that could end being quite large and, as things currently stand, if I build them for both architectures I will end up with 2 copies. Any thoughts or workarounds on this issue ? --markc

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[arch-general] Encrypted swap and suspend-to-disk
by Felix Leckow 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hi, I just did a fresh Arch install with encrypted /, /home, and swap partitions, following the LUKS Encrypted Root[1] how-to in the wiki. I have trouble getting suspend-to-disk (using uswsusp[2] from AUR) to work: creating the suspend image works fine, but I can't resume for the simple reason that the encrypted swap that contains the image gets unlocked *after* suspend tries (and fails) to read from it. Is there any way to get this to work properly? Should I file a bug report, and if so against which package? [1]http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LUKS_Encrypted_Root [2]http://suspend.sourceforge.net/

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[arch-general] Firefox -2 package bug?
by Rodrigo Coacci 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

[rodrigo@kuat:~ ]$ LANG=C sudo pacman -S firefox resolving dependencies... done. looking for inter-conflicts... done. Targets: firefox-2.0.0.10-2 <-------------------------- Total Package Size: 9.36 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... done. cleaning up... done. (1/1) checking for file conflicts [#####################] 100% (1/1) upgrading firefox [#####################] 100% [rodrigo@kuat:~ ]$ LANG=C sudo pacman -Qi firefox Name : firefox Version : 2.0.0.10-1 <--------------------------- URL : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox License : MPL GPL LGPL Groups : None Provides : mozilla-firefox Depends On : gtk2>=2.12.0 pango>=1.16.1 gcc-libs libxt libidl2 mozilla-common nss>=3.11.7 desktop-file-utils Removes : None Required By : firefox-i18n Conflicts With : mozilla-firefox Installed Size : 27104.34 K Packager : Alexander Baldeck <alexander(a)archlinux.org> Architecture : i686 Build Date : Tue Nov 27 17:21:26 2007 UTC Build Type : Unknown Install Date : Fri Nov 30 01:32:00 2007 UTC Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package Install Script : Yes Description : Standalone web browser from mozilla.org Anyone else or its just me? -- Cheers Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds

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[arch-general] Mailing list rename
by Aaron Griffin 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hey guys, You may have noticed a new address up there in the From line (unless you got this via the announce list) The main mailing list has been renamed, from "arch" to "arch-general", and additionally "tur-users" has been renamed to "aur-general". The reason? The naming was unclear, especially on the tur-users list. So, please try to use this address when posting to the list (the old address will work fine for now, but I can't predict how long). Additionally, I have kept archive symlinks so that the following two are the same: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/ http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch/ Sorry for all of you that have to update your mail filter rules, but it's better this way - I promise 8) Thanks, Aaron

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[arch-general] Old version of gnome-system-tools in [unstable]
by Hugo Doria 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Hi, There is a very old version of gnome-system-tools (and system-tools-backends) package in [unstable]. A newer one is already available in [community]. Would it not be better to remove the older one? What would be the procedure to do that? I tried to contact the packager but i got no response so far. Thanks. -- []'s Hugo Doria http://hdoria.archlinux-br.org GNU/Linux user #359340 - http://counter.li.org

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[arch-general] Removing ssmtp and nbsmtp
by Aaron Griffin 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Just a quick question for all of you guys. Does anyone use ssmtp or nbsmtp? They are both in extra, along with msmtp, and it seems like quite a lot of duplication. So based on developer usage, we're most likely going to boot ssmtp and nbsmtp. Does anyone have a problem with that? They *will* be moved to the AUR and can be move to community if any TU wants them. Opinions?

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