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[arch-general] kernel26 x86_64 without virtio?
by Ingo Becker 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hi, i have noticed that the virtio-* kernel modules for kvm paravirtualization in the kernel26 x86_64 package are missing. They are included in the i686 package but not in the x86_64 version. Whats the reason for that? greets Ingo

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[arch-general] kdebindings 4.2 missing from extra
by Atanas Zhelev 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, it seems kdebindings 4.2 wasn't moved to extra. When upgrading pacman picks kdebindings-4.1.3-1 and that leads to conflicts. (36/36) checking for file conflicts [##################################################################################################] 100% error: could not prepare transaction error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) /usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/applet.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' /usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/data_engine.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-applet.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-dataengine.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. -- Atanas

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[arch-general] KDE 4.2.0 in [testing]
by Pierre Schmitz 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi everybody, today I uploaded the so called "first try" of 4.2 into [testing]. Those packages are not the final one yet, but damn close. There are only two known upstream showstoppers; which will be fixed by new packages soon. See http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=kde-4.2.0-blocker. On our site only mysql is blocking a release to [extra]: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12798 In addition to this kde-l10n-et seems broken. So please take the chance and check those packages. An update from 4.1 should be quite smooth. And even if you hated KDE 4.1, give 4.2 a try; it really rocks. :-) If you notice any regression, showstopper or problems during the update, please report them. Packages for x86_64 should be available on your favourite mirror soon; Andrea will build i66 packages tomorrow. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre(a)jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

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[arch-general] thunar-thumbnailer
by Marco Antonio Gomez 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Using Openbox + Thunar + Thunar thumbnailer in Arch (completely updated), I noticed that thunar-thumbnailer, since last week, does not generate video thumbnails anymore. AFAIK, the problem is related to a new version of ffmpeg... My system messages show me that ffmpegthumbnailer looks out for a libavcodec.so.51 (lib that used to be provided by ffmpeg package, that was recently replaced by libavcodec.so.52.10.0). But the newer version of ffmpegthumbnailer in community, still looks for libavcodec.so.51. Then... obviously "error while loading shared libraries - no such file of direcrory". I've already tried to create a symbolic link named libavcodec.so.51 pointing to libavcodec.so.52.10.0, and when I try to do that, the ffmpegthumbnailer returns "Error: Could not find video stream" I've also tried to recompile ffmpeg and also ffmped-thumbnailer and all of it's dependencys from the newer versions of each one in AUR, but it was a frustrated attempt. Anybody else reports the same issues? If positive, any workaround to make it work? Regards, Marco Antonio Gomez.

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[arch-general] Staic libraries
by Damjan Georgievski 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Since bugs on http://bugs.archlinux.org/ are too eagerly closed I'll have to ask here. I'm trying to build the latest "tuxonice-userui" since it's required by tuxonice-rc8. The compile of tuxoniceui_fbsplash fails with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfreetype" The last command (the one that fails) is: cc -static userui_core.o fbsplash/userui_fbsplash.o -o tuxoniceui_fbsplash -lmng -lpng -ljpeg -lz -lfreetype -llcms -lm Now, there are /usr/lib/libmng.a /usr/lib/libpng.a /usr/lib/libjpeg.a /usr/lib/libz.a /usr/lib/liblcms.a /usr/lib/libm.a files on my ArchLinux but there's no /usr/lib/libfreetype.a static library. In http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11016 JGC claims: "Static libraries aren't needed to build static binaries. The makefiles contain hardcoded references to the .a files, which is wrong." Now, it's not true that the userui Makefile has a hardcoded reference to the .a file. And I don't see how to build a static binary either? Hints? -- damjan

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[arch-general] consistency in iso naming
by Dieter Plaetinck 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi, I suggest we use the following names: 2009.01-alpha 2009.01-beta 2009.01-1 (official release) (2009.01-2, 2009.01-3 etc subsequent official releases, if required) I think our isos/img's should have such versions in there filenames, instead of using 2009.01 for alpha + beta + official releases. This is useful for: 1) avoiding confusion with iso's. Users are not aware which versions the isos are hosted on dev spaces such as http://dev.archlinux.org/~aaron/archiso/. Hell, even for relengs/devs it can be confusing 2) 1:1 to mapping to version numbers on flyspray. I added some versions on flyspray (2009.01-{alpha,beta,1} etc). imo we need to update iso names as such, so bugs can be reported on the correct versions etc, otherwise it will be mess. This implies a change in archiso. is that okay? PS: i also made a version 2009.04-alpha where we can attach some non-critical tickets to. Dieter

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] gstreamer0.10 0.10.21-2 i686
by Baho Utot 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

When trying to compile gstreamer0.10 0.10.21-2 i686 I have this error checking bison version 2.4.1 >= 1.875... Argument "^B^D^A" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at - line 1. current bison/gcc Anyone seen this?

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[arch-general] silent fsck at startup
by wahjava.ml＠gmail.com 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

Hi all, Is there any switch for fsck (during startup) to be somewhat verbose like displaying the progress of filesystem check ? TiA -- Ashish SHUKLA

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] initscripts 2009.01
by Dieter Plaetinck 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Hugo Doria wrote: > Signoff (both) > > -- Hugo > signoff i686. all looks good. Dieter

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[arch-general] Moonlight 1.0
by Amanai 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra? http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Moonlight is an open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight for Unix systems. It's avaible for 32/64 bit! Release Notes Final release of Moonlight 1.0 Support for the Microsoft Media Pack Quick and easy installation of media codecs Several media releate bug fixes I hope one of the dev's like to pick this up.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Divide and Konquer - Splitting KDE packages
by Loui Chang 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 07:35:45PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Best I can do after some initial hacking. Are there any assumptions we > can make based on package name to trim the list so we don't have to > check all PKGBUILDs? > > This is done without a checkout of the full repo, using svn list and svn cat... > > $ ./pkgfind 3ddesktop #first package in the repos > Repo scan complete in 51ms > Package -> 3ddesktop/ > > $ ./pkgfind bash > Repo scan complete in 3809ms > Package -> bash/ > > $ ./pkgfind libpano13 #median package in the repos > Repo scan complete in 44170ms > Package -> libpano13/ > > $ ./pkgfind zsync #2nd to last package in the repos > Repo scan complete in 90997ms > Package -> zsync/ > > These numbers are just going to grow... And even more so when community packages are added... The svn repo needs a restructuring I think.

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Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

-----Original Message----- > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:05:47 +0100 > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 > From: Allan McRae > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux > stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:28:36 +0100 > > > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 > > > From: Amanai > > > To: "General Discusson about Arch Linux" > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:19:55 -0800, Thomas Bohn > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01:25, Thu 22 Jan 09, Amanai wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. > > > > > Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently the SVN version of Moonlight is available via AUR, the > > > > package is called "moon-svn." > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I pick this up. I don't want to build it and upload moonlight for > > > AUR. > > > I don't want to use any packages from AUR. > > > > > > Archlinux have in Extra Repo's > > > > > > flashplugin > > > swfdec > > > gnash > > > libflashsupport > > > > > > it is just missing "moonlight"! > > > > > > > > > > > File a feature request. > > > > In all honesty, I would close this as a "won't fix". If no-one is > motivated enough to make a package for the stable version for this in > the AUR and the community does not then vote for it, the demand is > obviously not high enough for it to be included in the main repos. > > Allan > > > > Hello, I agree perfectly. But it would be the correct way to handle things like that, and would put some noise away from this list. BTW, the new rules for the TUs would even forbid to put it to community without discussion. The devs might have some similar rules for putting something new to extra. Regards Stefan

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[arch-general] howto file missing in intltool
by Lyman 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, I found that the package intltool does not contain the file doc/I18N-HOWTO, which is contained in official release. As this file is supposed to be found locally easily, once it is missing even google can not give out useful hint efficiently. IMHO, this file is vital for the person who is new to gettext/intltool tool-chain (no kidding, more heuristic and important than the manpages). Can anyone here could add this file in next update, please? -- Lyman Li Blog(Chinese): http://lymanrb.blogspot.com Album: http://picasaweb.google.com/lymanrb

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.1-1
by Tobias Powalowski 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version - fixed bugs: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12821 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12816 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12820 please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Question on traceroute/mtr
by Viv Diwakar 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hi all, When I mtr to an IP I'm seeing the last three hops as having the identical IP address, and packet loss of 25%, 40% and 100% respectively. I'm not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly - does that mean the last hop is basically looping on itself three times? Thanks in advance, cheers Viv Diwakar

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[arch-general] Keyboard repeat in KDE 4
by Leonid Grinberg 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, I am experiencing an odd problem with keyboard repeating in KDE. I am running Vanilla KDE 4.1.3 Every once in a while, the keyboard simply stops repeating (by repeating, I mean when I hold a key down, it only sends the keystroke once, so if I hold down "f" it only shows "f" rather than "fffffffffffff"). I have auto-repeat enabled in xorg.conf and the repeat works fine in the virtual terminals. Coupled with this problem is that in systemsettings, the entire configuration for the keyboard is missing. However, in ~/.kde4/share/config/kcminputrc, KeyboardRepeating is set to true. I've also discovered that if I run kcminit, the problem temporarily gets fixed, only to happen again a little while later. Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this? -- Thanks, Leonid Grinberg lgrinberg(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] xscreensaver broken?
by Guus Snijders 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hey all, mabye i'm doing something wrong, but xscreensaver-demo segfaults on my system: $ xscreensaver-demo (xscreensaver-demo:3073): libglade-WARNING **: Could not load support for `gnome': libgthread: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory xscreensaver-demo: 20:45:46: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated xscreensaver-demo: 20:45:46: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated xscreensaver-demo: 20:45:46: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated Segmentation fault $ pacman -Q xscreensaver xscreensaver 5.08-1 $ pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libgthread.so /usr/lib/libgthread.so is owned by glib 1.2.10-7 Any ideas? mvg, Guus

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[arch-general] new kernel 2.6.27 or 2.6.28
by Anton Achatz 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, i have a problem after updating to kernel 2.6.27 or 2.6.28. After updating the kernel i am not able to boot the system. The system doesn' t recognize the boot harddisk sda6. the recommendation to set bootdelay = 8 doesnt help. Does someone know what to do. greetings Toni

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[arch-general] Arch Linux Review on DistroWatch
by Hugo Doria 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090119#feature "Conclusion The "keep it simple" philosophy of Arch Linux really shines through in all aspects of this distribution. It lets the user control the system and doesn't do anything unless told to. It has the speed and convenience of binary with the power of source and is very flexible when it comes to optional dependencies. Being a rolling release, the packages are also reasonably up-to-date. Other than the problem with the Intel video driver, I have not had any issues with the quality of the packages. Still, I have to wonder how well a smaller distribution like this can provide overall stability. Perhaps time will tell. It also remains to be seen how well Pacman will perform after installing and removing thousands of packages. Certainly, Arch Linux isn't for everybody, no distribution is, but it sure is plenty of fun and you learn a lot. If you're the kind of person who likes to fiddle and tweak your system, then definitely give it a shot. Once you have your system up and running the way you want, it's very easy to maintain and it feels great. If you've been tempted to try it out, there is a Wiki page listing how it compares to others. As for my dream distribution, Arch Linux comes pretty darn close." Read the page for full review. -- Hugo

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Re: [arch-general] 2.6.28 to core?
by wain 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, Virtualbox modules can't be compiled anymore with 2.6.28. wain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Brauer" <gerhard.brauer(a)web.de> Sent: Wed, January 14, 2009 10:52 Subject:[arch-general] 2.6.28 to core? Hello, seems that all stopper for 2.6.28 are solved. Are there any issues that causes 2.6.28 (and klibc, mkinitcpio) don't went to [core]? Without these the new ISO's couldn't be build... Regards Gerhard ----- End of original message -----

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[arch-general] About ttf-ms-fonts package in extra/
by goodmenzy＠gmail.com 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Hi, Anyone knows anything about ttf-ms-fonts ? `pacman -Ql ttf-ms-fonts ` gives funny result! And the license is another affairs. Being a Linux user, and Archlinux lover, I do not want be sent a lawyer's letter from Micro$oft. Emm, It is strange of that package, the packager name is Archlinux.

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[arch-general] Error with makepkg installing dependency
by Baho Utot 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

When compiling packages using makeworld or my custom script I am getting a number of failures like this: /usr/info/dir exists in both 'glib' and 'gtk' What causes this? Is there a way to fix this without forcing this packages? or better still is there a fix? Thanks

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[arch-general] 2.6.28 to core?
by Gerhard Brauer 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hello, seems that all stopper for 2.6.28 are solved. Are there any issues that causes 2.6.28 (and klibc, mkinitcpio) don't went to [core]? Without these the new ISO's couldn't be build... Regards Gerhard

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[arch-general] Intro + package maintenance
by aashiks 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hi all, Apologies for the long mail but do read on. My name is Aashik and i have been using Arch for the last two days. I was planning to simply try it, but decided to stick with it because i like its simplicity. Only one annoying thing happened to me. I am from India and my mother tongue is Malayalam. I tried to use scim and m17n version of malayalam input methods. There were a few glitches. I noticed that it is out of date and is currently flagged as 'orphan' when you do a package search. To be precise, the following packages. m17n-db,m17n-lib,scim-m17n There have been some commits made in the last few months from a project called SMC ( http://smc.org.in ) which enables phonetic text input in Malayalam via m17n also. I did not file a bug report because it asks everyone not to report outdated packages as bugs.Is anyone actively maintaining i686 these packages ? If not I can do it. I have spare time ( i took some time off from work ) . I don't know a thing about creating packages and things like that. If someone can answer my questions and doubts as they pop up , I can take up this task. Regards Aashik -------------------------------------------------------

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