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Why is apt in the Repo?
by Chime Hart 03 May '24

03 May '24

Hi All: I was sure surprised to be able to install apt, however, in /etc/apt/sources.list is empty. The man-page only seems to make references to Debian versions. So, inquiring minds wanna know. Right this second I don't remember which I used, pacman or yay? Thanks so much in advance Chime

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re/fwd: Archlinux Newsfeeds Broken -- Or am I just lucky?
by David C. Rankin 02 May '24

02 May '24

> All, > > The Arch newsfeeds for Arch Linux Recent news and Arch Linux Recent > packages (e.g. https://archlinux.org/feeds/packages/) are no longer > delivering to me. Is there are problem with the news feeds or is there > something that would just stop Thunderbird from getting them? > > I haven't changed anything and clicking on the "Validate" in the account > config in tbird brings up the page showing they are valid, but I am not > getting anything anymore? > > Is it just me? I check the archlinux.org site, but found no notices? Feed is working fine. It looks like it was just me. My feed was out from 4/29/24 at 14:42 (last message from feed) until 5/1/24 at 1:34. (which missed the 6.8.8 kernel going into core I was waiting on) I'll chock this up to a CSOK issue. I've got no other explanation. ** CSOK (cat stepping on keyboard...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Issue related to the file system hierarchy for operating systems using the systemd service manager
by Ralf Mardorf 01 May '24

01 May '24

Hi, when running extra/audacity from command line it runs into issues, but doesn't provide any output and it seems not to start. When running extra/tenacity from command line it shows that there is an issue with duplicated plugins. It ignores the duplicated plugins and after a while it does start. The culprit is a link. $ /bin/ls -ld /usr/lib{,64} drwxr-xr-x 460 root root 524288 May 1 17:37 /usr/lib lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Apr 7 20:02 /usr/lib64 -> lib "1.5 Does Arch follow the Linux Foundation's Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS)? Arch Linux follows the file system hierarchy for operating systems using the systemd service manager. See file-hierarchy(7) for an explanation of each directory along with their designations. In particular, /bin, /sbin, and /usr/sbin are symbolic links to /usr/bin, and /lib and /lib64 are symbolic links to /usr/lib." - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Frequently_asked_questions#Does_Arch_follo…'s_Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard_(FHS)? What should I do? Report a bug against a package or something else? Regards, Ralf

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Archlinux Newsfeeds Broken -- Or am I just lucky?
by David C. Rankin 01 May '24

01 May '24

All, The Arch newsfeeds for Arch Linux Recent news and Arch Linux Recent packages (e.g. https://archlinux.org/feeds/packages/) are no longer delivering to me. Is there are problem with the news feeds or is there something that would just stop Thunderbird from getting them? I haven't changed anything and clicking on the "Validate" in the account config in tbird brings up the page showing they are valid, but I am not getting anything anymore? Is it just me? I check the archlinux.org site, but found no notices? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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What's with the kernels that seem to stay stuck in core-testing longer than they used to?
by David C. Rankin 27 Apr '24

27 Apr '24

Devs, I've noticed kernels stay stuck in core-testing longer than they used to. In the past (unless there was some minor version change), they usually stayed in testing a day or less. The past couple have lingered nearly a week and linux 6.8.7.arch1-2 x86_64 has been there a few days? That's great to ensure there are no issue with other packages that depend on building drivers from the kernel, but does raise the question for the curios -- "What's up?" I ask for scheduling purposes. I monitor the newsfeeds from the package repos and when I see a new kernel coming, I try and set aside a convenient time for the update/reboot. Past few kernels, I've done that only to find - they are still in testing. Not a complaint, just a curiosity. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Building Rust kernel modules - target.json missing
by L. Rose 23 Apr '24

23 Apr '24

Hello everyone, I'm trying to build the example Rust kernel modules from kernel source [1] on Arch Linux. I use a simple Makefile to build them out of tree: obj-m += rust_minimal.o all: make -C /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build M=$(PWD) modules However, the build can't find some Rust metadata: make -C /lib/modules/6.8.7-arch1-1/build M=/home/lukas/Downloads/linux-6.8.7-arch1/samples/rust modules make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/lib/modules/6.8.7-arch1-1/build' RUSTC [M] /home/lukas/Downloads/linux-6.8.7-arch1/samples/rust/rust_minimal.o error: target file "./scripts/target.json" does not exist Indeed, there is no target.json in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/scripts/, so I thought, maybe I need to use a special kernel with Rust support. But building linux-rust from the AUR fails with the same error message: Installing Rust files... install: cannot stat 'scripts/target.json': No such file or directory ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in package_linux-rust-headers(). Aborting... And even the default kernel is passing the Linux kernel Rust support check script as suggested in the kernel docs [2]: lukas@Lukas-AMD:rust$ make -C /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build rustavailable make: Entering directory '/usr/lib/modules/6.8.7-arch1-1/build' Rust is available! make: Leaving directory '/usr/lib/modules/6.8.7-arch1-1/build' So what am I doing wrong? Is the Arch Linux kernel currently missing Rust metadata required for Rust support, like target.json? Or am I missing some important prerequisites here? Any suggestions welcome! Thanks, lukaro [1] https://github.com/Rust-for-Linux/linux/tree/rust-next/samples/rust [2] https://docs.kernel.org/6.8/rust/quick-start.html

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PKGBUILD: nodejs
by Pocket 17 Apr '24

17 Apr '24

I am trying to build nodejs in a chroot using pkgctl repo clone --protocol=https nodejs pushd nodejs makechrootpkg -c -u -r "$CHROOT" -- --skippgpcheck popd It fails at this point ==> Entering fakeroot environment... chmod: cannot access '/startdir/pkg': No such file or directory I don't have startdir defined in the makepkg.conf file nor have I defined it anywhere Why is this failing? -- Hindi madali ang maging ako

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building plasma-wayland-protocols
by Pocket 13 Apr '24

13 Apr '24

Trying to build plasma-wayland-protocols This is the error I am getting What executable is it looking for? I have built the entire qt5/qt6 stack except for qt5-ukui-platformtheme plasma-wayland-protocols is a dependency of qt5-ukui-platformtheme So I am stuck here Can anyone shed light on this issue? ==> Starting build()... -- The C compiler identification is GNU 12.1.0 -- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 12.1.0 -- Detecting C compiler ABI info -- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done -- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc - skipped -- Detecting C compile features -- Detecting C compile features - done -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done -- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ - skipped -- Detecting CXX compile features -- Detecting CXX compile features - done -- -- No executable found. Can't check QT_INSTALL_PREFIX -- Installing in the same prefix as Qt, adopting their path scheme. -- No executable found. Can't check QT_INSTALL_PREFIX CMake Error at /usr/share/ECM/modules/ECMQueryQt.cmake:84 (message): No executable found. Can't check QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS as required Call Stack (most recent call first): /usr/share/ECM/kde-modules/KDEInstallDirs5.cmake:255 (ecm_query_qt) /usr/share/ECM/kde-modules/KDEInstallDirs.cmake:15 (include) CMakeLists.txt:17 (include) -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). -- Hindi madali ang maging ako

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pam 1.6.1-2 breaks sudo password
by Frederic Bezies 13 Apr '24

13 Apr '24

Hello. I noticed that pam 1.6.1-2 breaks sudo. Every time I tried to enter my password with a sudo command, it tells me my password is incorrect. Of course, it is not. The "fix" was to downgrade to pam 1.6.1-1. Hope it helps! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com Blog: https://fredericbezies-ep.fr/blog/

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Re: [arch-announce] Increasing the default vm.max_map_count value
by Genes Lists 12 Apr '24

12 Apr '24

On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 18:12 +0000, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Robin Candau wrote: > The [vm.max_map_count][1] paramater will be increased from the > default `65530` value to `1048576`. > > This change should help address performance, crash or start-up issues > for a number of memory intensive applications, Performance improvement is unlikely but could allow something to run that otherwise would not. The lkml comment [1] is worth a read and includes : "To be clear, what you are doing here is akin to adding more memory to your system when there is a memory leak. This is not the solution you should be pushing. Ironically, this is using more memory and performing worse than it should. At best, the limit increase is a workaround for buggy programs." As Robin said, setting the max higher is probably benign - and only impacts a system running the problematic software (games). Nonetheless, it is very simple to change it to whatever value you want with your own prefs dropped into /etc/sysctl.d/xxx.conf gene [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/566168554.272637693.1710968734203.Jav aMail.root@zimbra54- e10.priv.proxad.net/T/#m1905a48f415bc6e8069a8fe53dec44bc311571f2 -- Gene

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PAM 1.6 breaks limits.conf parsing
by Simone Baratta 12 Apr '24

12 Apr '24

Howdy, Arch community! Today Ardour warned me that I had a ulimit enforced for locked memory, and indeed I was surprised to find that `ulimit -l` reported 8192 for my user (which I configured to `unlimited` a long time ago). After a bit of investigation, it turned out that this is a bug introduced by PAM 1.6, which fails to read my limits.conf file due to the extra whitespace separating entries: ``` @audio - memlock unlimited ``` This makes pam_limits.so fail with the following: ``` pam_limits(login:session): wrong limit value ' unlimited' for limit type '-' ``` Looks like this issue was introduced with [1], and indeed I can confirm that it's fixed by [2] which references the first commit. Is there any chance we can get a 1.6.0-5 update with this patch in? This version is already in core, and it's a very subtle issue which is likely to be unnoticed by many but come with a lot of (possibly security-relevant) side effects. [1] https://github.com/linux-pam/linux-pam/commit/eec4358a49dc0d6d699532965f453… [2] https://github.com/linux-pam/linux-pam/commit/9228077d762fc94ebc8d9fb4edfe9… Thanks! -- Simone

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Building qt-5 packages from PKGBUILD
by Pocket 12 Apr '24

12 Apr '24

I have a project where I am building arch packages for raspberry pi's 4/5. Building the base and devtools with all there dependencies I have 2477 completed with some packages being complete failures. In the qt5-* PKGBUILD most fail due to the wrong directory For example in qt5-tools: Build function qmake ../${_pkgfqn} CONFIG+=fat-static-lto should be qmake ../kde-${_pkgfqn} CONFIG+=fat-static-lto ^^^^ and in the package function cd ../${_pkgfqn} should be cd ../kde-${_pkgfqn} ^^^^ It appears that many of these packages that have this issue and I have not found the all as I am just being to build these. -- Hindi madali ang maging ako

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An Intro from A Debian User
by Chime Hart 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

Well, 2nd try, as I must have posted to the subscription address instead. I am still running Debian SID on my main machine with a screen-reader, Speakup, as I am totally blind. Meanwhile, I wanted to try a newer screen-reader, called Fenrir on a laptop. So, we switched over to Arch. While at times I find the 2 package managers confusing, I like an aspect of a much newer kernel. An issue, I cannot find a smaller font which will provide many more lines. So far only 67, but when I was in Debian with this same laptop, I had 135. Can any1 please suggest a font which will do the trick? Storm, who maintains Fenrir says I would need a font which supports utf8, so Fenrir will read. I am having glowing support from Storm as well as Didier, an author of Slint, another accessable distro. Thanks so much in advance Chime

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ipset enabled fails to restore /etc/ipset.conf
by David C. Rankin 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

All, I've setup a blocklist (hash:net) a whitelist (hash:ip) and a whitelistnet (hash:net) with ipset. It works quite well added to the stateful firewall. However ipset restore fails: 18:02 valkyrie:~> scs ipset × ipset.service - Loading IP Sets Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/ipset.service; enabled; preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2024-04-10 17:06:05 CDT; 56min ago Process: 1399 ExecStart=/usr/bin/ipset -f /etc/ipset.conf restore (code=exited, status=2) Main PID: 1399 (code=exited, status=2) CPU: 3ms Apr 10 17:06:05 valkyrie systemd[1]: Starting Loading IP Sets... Apr 10 17:06:05 valkyrie ipset[1399]: ipset v7.20: No command specified: unknown argument Name: Apr 10 17:06:05 valkyrie ipset[1399]: Try `ipset help' for more information. Apr 10 17:06:05 valkyrie systemd[1]: ipset.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT Apr 10 17:06:05 valkyrie systemd[1]: ipset.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Apr 10 17:06:05 valkyrie systemd[1]: Failed to start Loading IP Sets. The sets cannot manually be restored with ipset restore (or ipset restore -file ipset.conf). It results in the same error: # ipset restore <ipset.conf ipset v7.20: No command specified: unknown argument Name: Try `ipset help' for more information. As does: # ipset restore -f ipset.conf ipset v7.20: No command specified: unknown argument Name: Try `ipset help' for more information. The content of the ipset save > ipset.conf file is the same as ipset list, and looks fine, e.g. # cat /etc/ipset.conf Name: blocklist Type: hash:net Revision: 7 Header: family inet hashsize 1024 maxelem 65536 bucketsize 12 initval 0xf3661058 Size in memory: 8856 References: 0 Number of entries: 194 Members: 167.94.138.0/24 199.45.154.0/23 43.130.0.0/18 43.129.192.0/18 43.157.32.0/24 <snip> Name: whitelist Type: hash:ip Revision: 6 Header: family inet hashsize 1024 maxelem 65536 bucketsize 12 initval 0xfa0e1f24 Size in memory: 1816 References: 0 Number of entries: 42 Members: 212.187.231.66 93.93.130.214 151.101.129.91 91.193.113.65 87.238.57.227 93.93.130.133 <snip> Name: whitelistnet Type: hash:net Revision: 7 Header: family inet hashsize 1024 maxelem 65536 bucketsize 12 initval 0xc9e0aa3d Size in memory: 504 References: 0 Number of entries: 1 Members: 151.101.129.0/24 The bug mentioned in the wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ipset was not hit. Even though ipset failed to load the sets, iptables started normally. After manually re-creating the tables and restoring the iptables rules, iptables is again using the sets: # iptables -nvL --line-numbers Chain INPUT (policy DROP 0 packets, 0 bytes) num pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 1 0 0 ACCEPT 0 -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 match-set whitelistnet src 2 0 0 ACCEPT 0 -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 match-set whitelist src 3 0 0 DROP 0 -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 match-set blocklist src 4 0 0 f2b-dovecot 6 -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 multiport dports 110,995,143,993,587,465,4190 <snip> I've followed the wiki and the man-page (and help) command to restore the files manually, but nothing seems to work. Any ideas what is going on? I'm brand new to ipset, so I don't have much experience to draw from. Anybody else seeing this or see a reason ipset isn't being restored on startup by ipset.service? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Changing of archive packages to git tags
by Aaron Liu 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

Ey, Recently, a bunch of packages such as cowsay have switched to pulling from a git tag away from downloading from the /archive/ path of GitHub. Since downloading GitHub's archives are guaranteed to have the exact same contents as pulling from the tags, with the added benefit of not pulling the .git folder, is there any benefit to this? To my knowledge, the problematic xz tarballs were under the /release/ path as uploaded artifacts, while the /archive/ download remained clean. Aaron

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Graphical session inside systemd-nspawn container
by FirstName LastName 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

Hello, I am trying to run X from within a systemd-nspawn container - this is something I had set up and was running successfully about three years ago, but something seems to have changed in the meantime and I am not able to recreate this. I created the container and installed X related packages following the wiki article, and was able to boot into my container and create an unprivileged user. The script I am using to boot is (modified from my container of three years ago): xhost +local: sudo systemd-nspawn -b -D /mnt/extra/nspawn-containers/test \ --bind-ro=/tmp/.X11-unix \ --bind=/dev/dri \ --bind=/dev/shm \ --bind=/dev/nvidia0 \ --bind=/dev/nvidiactl \ --bind=/dev/nvidia-modeset \ --setenv=DISPLAY=:0.0 \ xhost - When I try to `startx` from within the container, however, I get this: /usr/lib/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X server xinit: giving up xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused xinit: server error Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console. I am not entirely sure where to go from here. Is there something incomplete in my configuration? Looking up the Xorg.wrap error message, I only find that X will not run on pseudo terminals, but I do not know what to do about this or if this is even the problem. Best regards, e

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Package java-environment-common-3-5 installs incorrect symlinks
by Wouffy The Dog 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

Hello, I was cleaning my machine, trying to find broken symlinks. I scanned my `/bin` directory with `find -L /bin/ -type l -ls`, and it found broken links installed by `java-environment-common` (`pacman -Qqo /bin/javah` for example). Is it the case for some of you?

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Re: Arch Linux Rust packaging licensing problem
by Maarten de Vries 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

On 07-04-2024 13:10, Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) wrote: > Hi Arvid, > > Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention and your detailed email > about it. I'm CCïng our public development mailing list in this > response so our other maintainers get informed, too. > > I agree that Arch needs a solution for this eventually. Unlike Fedora > we do not package Rust libraries so I think we need some help from > Cargo for this. Preferably from upstream, but a third-party tool would > work as well. > > Ideally, I think there we would create a SPDX license expression from > the entire crate tree and then simplify it, e.g. to turn `(MIT) AND > (MPL-2.0 OR MIT) AND (MIT AND BSD-2-Clause) AND (MPL-2.0 OR > BSD-3-Clause)` into `MIT AND BSD-2-Clause AND (MPL-2.0 OR > BSD-3-Clause)`. Or perhaps even simpler if the tool had knowledge > about which licenses are covered by others. > > We could call such a tool in the `package()` function to set the > `license` for the package. > > I'm not sure how feasible this would be. Are crates required to use > SPDX expressions? > > Greetings, > Jan > > Hey, Replying on the general mailing list since the dev list is staff only. The license field of the pacman package is actually only secondary concern. Many libraries have a license that requires shipping the copyright information along with binary distributions (such as MIT and BSD licenses). This is more than just the name or SPDX identifier of the license. Usually, it is included at the top of a license file and it would look like this: > Copyright (c) 2024, Maarten de Vries There are tools to help with this: https://crates.io/crates/cargo-bundle-licenses https://crates.io/crates/cargo-lichking Personally I think having incomplete SPDX identifier in the pacman package is not in itself a license violation as long as the individual license files are shipped with the package. Although it would certainly be nice for tooling if the package information is complete too. Kind regards, Maarten de Vries

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pacman link
by james smith 09 Apr '24

09 Apr '24

the link[1] in the bugs part links to the old bugs it should link to the new one[2] [1]https://archlinux.org/pacman/ [2]https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/pacman

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postfix 3.9.0-1 - Worthy of "Latest News" note?? This will catch some people
by David C. Rankin 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

Arch devs, The update to postfix 3.9.0-1 appears worthy of a note in "Latest News" on archlinux.org as it will require manual user intervention. The upgrade note in pacman with the upgrade is much appreciated, but removal of hash: database types and replacement by lmdb will require regeneration of all user databases. This is something I'd expect a "Latest News" note on for those managing servers running arch. Just a suggestion. If you think the note on update is sufficient, that's fine too. The only reason I bring it up is this isn't a normal manual intervention that is required (like mariadb update or postgres collation version updates) where people are on the lookout for manual steps. Other than needing to rebuild the databases and skim through and blend the .pacnew changes to main.cf, all goes fine. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: Proposal to increase the default vm.max_map_count value
by Genes Lists 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 12:29 +0200, Robin Candau wrote: > On 4/2/24 11:59 AM, Robin Candau wrote: Couple of comments. * In lkml thread on same topic not everyone is on board with this [1] * Where to put this kind of thing Would it make sense to collect these kind of "system" settings, that dont clearly belong to a specific application, into a separate package (arch-system-settings or whatever). Admittedly at moment this would be very small package 🙂 [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/4/2/404 -- Gene

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Re: [arch-announce] The xz package has been backdoored
by Genes Lists 01 Apr '24

01 Apr '24

On Fri, 2024-03-29 at 18:55 +0000, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: David Runge wrote: > TL;DR: Upgrade your systems and container images **now**! > > Thanks for sharing. Truly an astounding revelation. This is a very, very sophisticated tool-chain attack along the lines of Ken Thompson's famous compiler trust example [1] Arch has been a strong advocate for reproducible builds [2] which can be part of a defense strategy [2]. I note that our xz package is marked as good in this regard [3]. I wonder what more we can reasonably do in the near term. Since git gives us decent tools to check what changed etc., I would imagine that can provide a stronger base on which to check things than working with tarballs or tarballs alone. This may have gone largely un-noticed for so long as people are probably more likely to check the source than the tarball itself. In this case, it seems, it was a primary developer doing the naughty - but they chose to leave the git repo alone and only infect the tarball. Question: -------- Would it make sense, therefore, to switch builds, where possible, away from tar files and instead pull directly from git source (signed tags where possible as usual etc)? Of course a git repo can also carry infections - perhaps taht's a little less likely. Or is this not worth the trouble? Gene [1] https://wiki.c2.com/?TheKenThompsonHack [2] https://reproducible-builds.org/ https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/DeveloperWiki:ReproducibleBuilds https://bootstrappable.org/ [3] https://reproducible.archlinux.org/ -- Gene

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Which Emacs package?
by Abraham S.A.H. 31 Mar '24

31 Mar '24

Hey fellows; There are many Emacs packages available across Arch repositories and AUR. I list some of them here, in no specific order: From Extra repository: * emacs * emacs-wayland * emacs-nativecomp * emacs-nox From AUR and some third party repositories: * emacs-lucid-nativecomp * emacs-git * chaotic-aur/emacs-pgtk-native-comp-git I do not explain any of them for details. My audience is the one who already tried them, so can give me some advice. I already have tried all of them and also read archwiki's Emacs article. The Lucid one seems like the most stable with the least bugs, but with an archaic UI and without dnd support, but I do not use those scroll/menu/toolbars. Please, if you have any experience, share it with me. -- Best Regards, Abraham Sent with Tutanota; https://tuta.com

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man.archlinux.org/man/xzmore.1.uk is not in English
by u34＠net9.cf 30 Mar '24

30 Mar '24

https://man.archlinux.org/man/xzmore.1.uk manual page is not in English. Visually, I would say my local copy, man -l /usr/share/man/uk/man1/xzmore.1.gz , and xzmore.1.uk at man.archlinux.org have the same text. I also have many warnings, for a lot of packages, from pacman -Qkk. One of these warnings is about /usr/share/man/uk/man1/xzmore.1.gz. The warning is despite the fact the actaul data for /usr/share/man/uk/man1/xzmore.1.gz seems to agree with zgreping /var/lib/pacman/local/xz-5.6.1-2/mtree for that file. Local pacman version is 6.0.2-9. -- u34

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Mensaje de ꪗꪮ𝘳ᦔꪖꪀ𝓽ꫀ
by ꪗꪮ𝘳ᦔꪖꪀ𝓽ꫀ 29 Mar '24

29 Mar '24

hello

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