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[aur-general] are ${pkgname}.install files source files?
by kludge 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

should i include them in the source= array and provide md5 sums for them? -kludge

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Re: [aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]
by Drew Frank 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Drew Frank <ajfrank(a)ics.uci.edu> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Drew Frank <goodgrue(a)archlinux.us> wrote: >>> I do this all the time as well. One possible solution: if an "I use >>> this!" message were sent to the stat-tracking server automatically >>> from pacman upon installing a package, it would not be much of an >>> extension to send a "Oops, not anymore" message when it is >>> uninstalled. Thoughts? >> >> That's (a) a breach of privacy and (b) something that would never get >> integrated into pacman. >> >> The pkgstats server doesn't keep track of user info. THe old archstats >> did, but we have proven time and time again that no one ever uses >> archstats.... we've had it for ages, have you ever used it? >> > > Nope, I've never heard of archstats =p. Maybe it could be integrated > into yaourt, if not pacman. I know aurvote already is, but perhaps it > could be just made automated unless a user specifically opts-out. > Also, maybe anonymous usage info could be allowed from those users who > don't have AUR accounts. It could be treated differently (as less > reliable) but would probably be better than nothing. Would that > address the breach of privacy issue? > Also, if my ideas are so off-base as to just be a waste of time, feel free to tell me so =)...I certainly don't want to make this process any harder for you all than it already is. Drew

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Re: [aur-general] Circle that A
by kludge 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > Keep that in mind - the people > doing work *for you* to make your lives easier, want some moderation > on this system before it gets out of hand. People will *always* abuse > a system with no rules. wow, can't believe this thread is still running on this subject line. back to my original intent: i think it's entirely fair (and often *necessary*) to establish concrete systems to regulate the use of shared resources. and of course those most familiar with the whys and wherefores of these resources should get special consideration for their intimate knowledge of the challenges to hand. that said, if the holders of the reins have already decided how to proceed, they should go on and proceed. if they want the input of the affected community, it's dishonest to dismiss that input. we're debating how to use the available metrics to tune the management of [community]. there is an outstanding and unanswered concern with the accuracy of those metrics. it seems to me that folks will not be happy with the proposal until that concern is resolved. so can anyone either (concretely) answer that concern or (concretely) propose better metrics? -kludge p.s: i'm participating in the hopes of facilitating actual consensus on this. if that's not welcome, let me know and i'll sod off.

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[aur-general] can't update my packages?
by Amanai 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Could not create incoming directory: /srv/http/sites/aur/unsupported-temp/68181228389746 Please one TU update

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[aur-general] cannot update emacs-org-mode
by Jiyunatori 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hi there. Because of this message, I'm directly writing to you : http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-December/003066.html I can't update office/emacs-org-mode : > Could not create incoming directory: > /srv/http/sites/aur/unsupported-temp/88991228392678. Jiyunatori

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Re: [aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]
by Loui Chang 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:31:05PM -0600, kludge wrote: > >> but i don't. if it's explicitly installed, it's because i wanted the > >> damn thing. > > > > That's good. I occaisionally download apps to try them and remove them > > soon after. Those are packages I would not vote on. > > > > Don't tell me you haven't ever done that. > > fair enough. > > what about votes:downloads, accompanied by a big push to get people voting? This proposal should be the signal that we are going to start taking votes more seriously, but no packages will be removed for now. > (btw, as a result of this debate, i'm finally voting for the packages i > use.) Good to hear! Here's a little script to help figure out what's installed from a particular repo. Use `repo-installed community` for [community], etc. This'll help people figure out what to vote for. #!/bin/bash # Print a list of packages installed from a given repo. # # Not everything will be listed if your installed packages # are out of date. # # This will work for most standard installations. # If you have an exotic setup just edit pacmandb. # # Usage: repo-installed <repo> pacmandb=/var/lib/pacman if [ -z "$1" ] ; then echo "Please specify a repo." echo -e "\tUsage: $0 <repo>" exit 1 fi installed=($(/bin/ls "$pacmandb/local")) for pkg in ${installed[@]} do if [ -e "$pacmandb/sync/$1/$pkg" ] ; then echo $pkg fi done

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[aur-general] Server side community changes
by Aaron Griffin 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

I fiddled with some of the community daemons on the server side, mainly changing permissions, log locations, and things of the sort. If anyone has any issues, poke Dan or myself about it, and we can fix it.

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[aur-general] TU's please update your packages!
by Amanai 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

pizzapunk = acroread, filezilla, wxsvg, vegai = warzone thank you

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Re: [aur-general] Direct attack on Bob
by Grigorios Bouzakis 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> >> <tl:dr> >> > > This is becoming a direct attack on Bob here. I could probably go through > anyones packages in [community] and find something that could be improved > (except mine - because I am perfect.... ). But it is not productive in > anyway. I did not bother reading much beyond that. > > Anyway, if people are going to rant on a different topic than that in the > subject line, change it to something more appropriate. Anyway its not like that. Its never been. This is the last you will hear from me at least your discussion is over. I meant to write that on the prvious mail but forgot. Take care Greg

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[aur-general] Hello!
by Aaron Griffin 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

Just wanted to send a hello to the list, and see how everyone is doing. I've noticed a lot of negative emails being thrown around, so I figured I'd lighten the mood with a humerous image. http://img.phraktured.net/funny/tldr.jpg So how was your day?

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