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[arch-general] System terribly slow
by riveravaldez 27 Oct '25

27 Oct '25

Hi, I'm looking for some advice trying to pinpoint why or where my system has becoming almost unusable slow. Searching the web I've found some hints but nothing precise enough. Maybe it's a failing HDD, but I'm first posting what I have until now in the hope someone can give some advice. Superficial symptoms are a general slowness. I'm using just IceWM and `startx` to initialize the GUI, and even logging into my account previous to that takes almost a minute to get done. Then any application I launch takes minutes to just start (from IceWM to firefox, from qtox to pcmanfm or geany, etc.). Even navigate the folders tree with pcmanfm takes 10 or more seconds just to show any folder content... Hope some of this helps: $ sudo journalctl -b -exp3 -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 19:50:29 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Asking for cache data failed dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: cannot open directory '/home/dell/Software/VMs/TrisquelMini8': No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: error interno: Falló al iniciar automáticamente el grupo de almacenamiento 'TrisquelMini8': cannot open directory '/home/dell/Softwar> dic 03 00:50:41 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:57 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:56:40 arch systemd[1]: Failed to start Disk Manager. Subject: A start job for unit udisks2.service has failed Defined-By: systemd Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel A start job for unit udisks2.service has finished with a failure. The job identifier is 1072 and the job result is failed. $ systemctl --state=failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION 0 loaded units listed. $ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 11.038s (kernel) + 1min 31.352s (userspace) = 1min 42.391s graphical.target reached after 1min 31.352s in userspace $ systemd-analyze blame 37.946s polkit.service 29.248s dev-sda1.device 28.827s systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service 24.692s udisks2.service 15.936s systemd-journal-flush.service 14.228s systemd-hwdb-update.service 13.930s ldconfig.service 13.502s upower.service 12.881s ufw.service 8.830s user(a)1000.service 7.556s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 7.280s avahi-daemon.service 7.275s bluetooth.service 7.262s iwd.service 6.067s systemd-logind.service 6.058s systemd-machined.service 5.825s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 5.123s systemd-sysusers.service 4.569s systemd-udevd.service 4.511s systemd-resolved.service 4.281s systemd-networkd.service 3.724s systemd-journal-catalog-update.service 3.415s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-1d72b82c\x2d9c58\x2d4f57\x2d97a3\x2de29ff35a5632.service 2.959s systemd-modules-load.service 2.557s lm_sensors.service 2.503s systemd-random-seed.service 2.389s systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service 1.983s dev-disk-by\x2duuid-84c91978\x2da09c\x2d4087\x2db60d\x2d86730d142f63.swap 1.967s systemd-backlight@leds:dell::kbd_backlight.service 1.563s systemd-timesyncd.service 1.457s systemd-update-utmp.service 1.287s systemd-udev-trigger.service 1.278s systemd-rfkill.service 1.219s alsa-restore.service 1.164s systemd-sysctl.service (...) $ systemctl status polkit.service ● polkit.service - Authorization Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service; static) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:50:28 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:polkit(8) Main PID: 613 (polkitd) Tasks: 12 (limit: 6993) Memory: 18.9M CPU: 1.032s CGroup: /system.slice/polkit.service └─613 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug dic 03 00:49:50 arch systemd[1]: Starting Authorization Manager... dic 03 00:50:05 arch polkitd[613]: Started polkitd version 0.120 dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Finished loading, compiling and executing 6 rules dic 03 00:50:28 arch systemd[1]: Started Authorization Manager. dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 on the system bus $ systemctl status dev-sda1.device ● dev-sda1.device - Hitachi_HTS545025B9A300 ROOT Follows: unit currently follows state of sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda1.device Loaded: loaded Active: active (plugged) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:49:12 -03; 19h ago Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda/sda1 Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. $ systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service ○ systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of Temporary Directories Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2021-12-03 01:03:52 -03; 19h ago TriggeredBy: ● systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer Docs: man:tmpfiles.d(5) man:systemd-tmpfiles(8) Process: 1473 ExecStart=systemd-tmpfiles --clean (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1473 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 185ms dic 03 01:03:23 arch systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. $ systemctl status udisks2.service ● udisks2.service - Disk Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks2.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:59:51 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:udisks(8) Main PID: 1129 (udisksd) Tasks: 5 (limit: 6993) Memory: 3.2M CPU: 23.045s CGroup: /system.slice/udisks2.service └─1129 /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd dic 03 00:59:26 arch systemd[1]: Starting Disk Manager... dic 03 00:59:26 arch udisksd[1129]: udisks daemon version 2.9.4 starting dic 03 00:59:51 arch systemd[1]: Started Disk Manager. dic 03 00:59:54 arch udisksd[1129]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.UDisks2 on the system message bus $ systemctl status systemd-journal-flush.service ● systemd-journal-flush.service - Flush Journal to Persistent Storage Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journal-flush.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:59 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) Process: 283 ExecStart=journalctl --flush (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 283 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 15ms dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd[1]: Starting Flush Journal to Persistent Storage... dic 03 00:48:59 arch systemd[1]: Finished Flush Journal to Persistent Storage. $ systemctl status systemd-hwdb-update.service ● systemd-hwdb-update.service - Rebuild Hardware Database Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-hwdb-update.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:57 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:hwdb(7) man:systemd-hwdb(8) Process: 279 ExecStart=systemd-hwdb update (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 279 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 1.746s dic 03 00:48:57 arch systemd[1]: Finished Rebuild Hardware Database. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-journald.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:49:18 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Journal started dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 8.0M, max 292.4M, 284.4M free. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: Time spent on flushing to /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c is 7.561088s for 798 entries. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: System Journal (/var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 16.0M, max 2.4G, 2.4G free. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\\x2duuid-1d72b82c\\x2d9c58\\x2d4f57\\x2d97a3\\x2de29ff35a5632.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:52:36 -03. -- dic 03 00:49:18 arch systemd[1]: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632... dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd-fsck[485]: HOME: limpio, 208781/13107200 ficheros, 37165716/52398592 bloques dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd[1]: Finished File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632. $ journalctl --verify PASS: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/user-1000.journal 3b84d8: Data object's entry array not sorted File corruption detected at /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal:915878 (of 16777216 bytes, 56%). FAIL: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal (Mensaje erróneo) $ journalctl --disk-usage Archived and active journals take up 24.0M in the file system. Maybe it's pertinent to mention that I've just cleaned up /var/log/journal to rule out storage issues. Any help will be most welcome. Thanks a lot in advance.

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Prevent pip from breaking the system by adopting PEP 668
by Martin Rys 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Some time ago, PEP 668[1] enabled distributions to mark the python installation as externally managed by a package manager, thus preventing pip from breaking the system by either installing packages to the system or locally in the home folder. Debian has already adopted this[2]. >From my understanding, setting the flag EXTERNALLY-MANAGED only allows using pip inside of a virtualenv and bans using it anywhere else, unless the user uses the very self-explanatory flag --break-system-packages. Currently on Arch, users can run either `sudo pip`, which will install packages as system and break pacman altogether, or `pip` which automatically uses the --user flag nowadays, which will still break things if done outside of virtual env. Quoting arojas[3], "There are hundreds of bug reports around caused by user installed pip packages overriding system ones" it seems like using the new EXTERNALLY-MANAGED mechanism would greatly reduce wasted time for both users and people managing the bug tracker. Is Arch going to be adopting this behavior too? I could not find a discussion anywhere else about this. Martin (C0rn3j) [1] https://peps.python.org/pep-0668/ [2] https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/python-pip/-/blob/master/debi… [3] https://t.me/archlinuxgroup/662555

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Help debugging random lockups
by Spencer Collyer 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Hi, I have a reasonably new PC which ran with no problems for around six weeks after initial install of Arch, but then about two weeks ago it started locking up randomly. I can't see anything obvious that is causing it to lock up. Sometimes it does it while I am actively working, and other times it locks up overnight (I tend to leave it running continuously). The lockups don't all look the same. For instance, sometimes the mouse cursor is still active and can be moved around the screen, and at other times it disappears completely. I've got kernel.sysrq = 1 set in my sysctl config, but sometimes it doesn't respond to the Magic SysRq key despite that. Obviously I'd like to work out what is causing the crash, so I'm looking for some pointers as to where I should be looking and what tools I could use to investigate. Thanks in advance for any info. Regards, Spencer

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Issues with nerd-fonts after updating to 3.0.0
by Michael Manley 04 Jun '23

04 Jun '23

Has anyone else noticed missing glyphs when updating to the latest version? Here is 2.3.3 [image: 2.3.3.png] Here is 3.0.0 [image: 3.0.0.png] Now Here is my prompt in 2.3.3 [image: 2.3.3_prompt.png] and in 3.0.0 [image: 3.0.0_prompt.png] See how the Home folder icon is missing. What changed?

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Firefox/Gnome
by Frank 30 May '23

30 May '23

Good afternoon, since the upgrade to Gnome Shell 44.1 I have to start Firefox twice. The first time I only get a black window but can close it from the top menue. After that it starts normal. When starting from a terminal I get the following message which appears at 2nd successfull attempt as well: ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment. Anyone else experiencingthis and an idea how to get an error message? Thanks Frank

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Is there "depth" control for pkgctl-repo-clone like "asp export" to get only the latest commit?
by David C. Rankin 25 May '23

25 May '23

All, Reading about the changes on archlinux.org and asp will stop working with svn2git going away. pkgctl-repo-clone is the replamement. It has only 3 options: -m, --maintainer NAME --universe -h, --help Does pkgctl-repo-clone simply fetch the latest commit, or does it fetch the history as well? 'asp export' provided only the latest commit without the prior versions history, etc. Can pkgctl-repo-clone do that? https://man.archlinux.org/man/pkgctl-repo-clone.1.en (4/23/2023) is silent on that aspect. https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/devtools/-/blob/master/src/lib/repo.… for pkgctl-repo is also silent on whether clone is the latest commit or full-clone with full git history, e.g. COMMANDS clone Clone a package repository https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/devtools/-/blob/master/src/lib/repo/… is just the 3 options we started with. I would think it would work like 'asp export' but I'd like to confirm with those that know better than I. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Pacman can't pull lib32-ncurses
by Polarian 25 May '23

25 May '23

Hello, When attempting to pull lib32-ncurses during pacman -Syu I get the following error: warning: cannot resolve "ncurses=6.4_20230520", a dependency of "lib32-ncurses" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: lib32-ncurses Anyone else able to reproduce this issue? Note: I have removed [community] Note: I have got [testing] and [extra-testing] enabled, I am unsure if this is the problem, and if it is, I guess I should be reporting this to #archlinux-testing Thanks, -- Polarian GPG signature: 0770E5312238C760 Website: https://polarian.dev JID/XMPP: polarian(a)polarian.dev

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Re: Help debugging random lockups
by Andy Pieters 24 May '23

24 May '23

> > > On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 17:17, Spencer Collyer < > spencer(a)spencercollyer.plus.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a reasonably new PC which ran with no problems for around six >> weeks after initial install of Arch, but then about two weeks ago it >> started locking up randomly. I can't see anything obvious that is causing >> it to lock up. Sometimes it does it while I am actively working, and other >> times it locks up overnight (I tend to leave it running continuously). >> > >> Without more, I have seen this with faulty hardware, such as faulty ram > modules, or PCI cards malfunctioning. > > The standard way for debugging things is to take out hardware until the > problem stops. > > Side note: have you any idea of temps when this is happening? > >

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Re: Git migration completed
by Genes Lists 23 May '23

23 May '23

On 5/21/23 07:29, Levente Polyak wrote: > We are proud to announce that the migration to Git packaging succeeded! 🥳 A huge thank you for the massive detailed planning and successful execution - very, very much appreciated. Hope you all celebrate lots! best gene

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Re: Git migration completed
by Genes Lists 21 May '23

21 May '23

First off - huge congrats to you all for orchestrating this obviously huge task. Thank you. Couple questions to confirm this is a mirror sync issue and not something else - since one of today's items was "test syncrepo on mirror.pkgbuild.com" I assumed this would be up to date? - pacman 6.0.2-7 - while waiting for my main mirror to sync I checked mirror.pkgbuild.com would you expect it to be there as of now: https://mirror.pkgbuild.com/pool/packages/ The link to new version is in core just not (yet) in pool. - core.db.sig Also not found on mirror.pkgbuild.com (or other mirrors I checked) none of the repos have <repo>.db.sig file pacman 6.0.2-6 shows error about core.db.sig etc being not found. Are these just - be patient, takes time to sync - or something else? Thanks, gene

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Boot Archiso files using systemd-boot or GRUB
by Óscar García Amor 16 May '23

16 May '23

Hello folks, I am doing a little crazy, I would like to boot the content of Archiso but with the extracted files not the ISO image itself. It is clear to me that to boot I need: - amd-ucode.img - intel-ucode.img - initramfs-linux.img - vmlinuz-linux - airootfs.sfs And that the linux and initrd lines are: linux /archiso/vmlinuz-linux initrd /archiso/intel-ucode.img /archiso/amd-ucode.img /archiso/initramfs-linux.img But I'm missing the options to pass to the kernel to find the airootfs.sfs. I know that using the img_dev and img_loop parameters I can tell it where the ISO file is located and boot with it, but I'm more interested in booting directly with the extracted airootfs.sfs and without the ISO. Any ideas? Greetings. -- Óscar García Amor | ogarcia at moire.org | http://ogarcia.me

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ezarch script errors
by Jude DaShiell 15 May '23

15 May '23

In broad software selections, neither general works nor multimedia. These two error out and install nothing hardinfo for general isn't found and easyscreencapture in multimedia is not found either. That may explain why orca never came up talking after I installed a mate desktop and I had no option to run without a desktop either. That's the situation with the iso I have. Either verizon throttling or a hardware error prevents isos from verifying once downloaded so I use what isos I have here until these problems can be fixed. I ran ./install to run that script too on the iso. -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

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php-legacy migration leaves startup warnings for php on migrated modules - ignore?
by David C. Rankin 13 May '23

13 May '23

All, For nextcloud, etc. the install recommends php-legacy (8.1) and provides a brief synopsis for migration to php-legacy. That works, but then any app calling php instead of php-legacy will receive startup warnings for modules moved to php-legacy. (I still have some apps as well as test code that users php on the command line) I could always just disable the startup warnings completely for php -- but is there a better way? For example: $ php-legacy <<< "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" | sed -n '2p' PHP Version => 8.1.18 (all good) $ php <<< "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" | sed -n '2p' PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'pdo_pgsql' (tried: /usr/lib/php/modules/pdo_pgsql ... PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'pgsql' (tried: /usr/lib/php/modules/pgsql (/usr/lib/php/modules/pgsql ... PHP Version => 8.2.6 (versions of modules migrated to php-legacy) Is there no way to leave both installed and not confuse nextcloud? If not, then disabling the php modules is fine and only having the php-legacy versions installed will just necessitate disabling the migrated modules and not having the ability to work with both. Can I leave both versions of pdo_pgsql and pgsql installed without causing myself grief? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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What are you doing to run a Windows 11 guest on Arch Linux in Virtualbox?
by Ralf Mardorf 05 May '23

05 May '23

Hi, to run Windows 11 as Virtualbox guest I build Virtualbox < version 7. My current installed virtualbox was build against python 3.10.10-1. Today building against python 3.11.3-1 failed with "Checking for Python support: ** Python not found!". I can still start a Windows 11 guest with virtualbox build against python 3.10.10-1 on the machine that is updated to python 3.11.3-1. However, the situation threatens to become more serious. • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ pacman -Q python python 3.11.3-1 • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ grep SUPPYTHONLIBS= chroot/rocketmouse/build/virtualbox/src/VirtualBox-6.1.40/configure SUPPYTHONLIBS="python2.7 python2.6 python3.1 python3.2 python3.3 python3.4 python3.4m python3.5 python3.5m python3.6 python3.6m python3.7 python3.7m python3.8 python3.8m python3.9 python3.9m python3.10 python3.10m" • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ grep " python (" /var/log/pacman.log | tail -1 [2023-05-04T01:05:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python (3.10.10-1 -> 3.11.3-1) • rocketmouse@archlinux /.tmp/virtualbox-epoch1-6.1.40 $ pacman -Q virtualbox virtualbox 1:6.1.40-708.1 I want to build virtualbox 1:6.1.40-708.2 against latest version of python. Maybe I don't need to do this, but soon or later I at least need to build against another dependency and then python is involved, too. Perhaps just adding python3.11 to configure's SUPPYTHONLIBS already does the job to build virtualbox, without fixing something else. If so, the end of building virtualbox < version 7 to run Windows 11 guests is still close. What are you doing to run a Windows 11 guest? Regards, Ralf

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Python 3.11 timeline?
by David Rosenstrauch 04 May '23

04 May '23

Anyone know if there's any timeline on when we'll see python 3.11 get released to Arch? I emailed the maintainer about this directly recently, but didn't hear anything back. I know this is a big upgrade, and lots of dependent packages are involved, so this might require some time. I just was wondering if there was any roadmap/timeline for how long that might be. Thanks, DR

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Fwd: dropping retired X.Org Packages
by David C. Rankin 04 May '23

04 May '23

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: dropping retired X.Org Packages Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 23:51:11 +0200 From: Andreas Radke <andyrtr(a)archlinux.org> Organization: ArchLinux To: arch-dev-public(a)lists.archlinux.org Following this reminder post[1]+[2] I'm going to remove the following packages soon from the repos: xf86-input-elographics xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-void Any objections? -Andy Andy, I still use the synaptics package on laptops -- handy to have. Will it go to AUR. It would be a shame to lose it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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ttf-nerd-fonts conflict
by Ralf Mardorf 01 May '23

01 May '23

Hi, there's a ttf-nerd-fonts conflict, one package removes the other package. One of the packages is flagged out-of-date, so I guess I shouldn't report a bug. However, it's a little bit annoying that I need to add ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em to IgnorePkg. "Do NOT report bugs when a package is just outdated, or it is in the AUR. Use the 'flag out of date' link on the package page, or the Mailing List. REPEAT: Do NOT report bugs for outdated packages!" - https://bugs.archlinux.org/ $ sudo pacman -Syu [snip] :: Replace ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em with community/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols? [Y/n] Y [snip] Packages (2) ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-3.0.0-2 ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em-2.3.3-1 [removal] [snip] $ sudo pacman -Syu :: Replace ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols with community/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em? [Y/n] Y [snip] Packages (2) ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-3.0.0-2 [removal] ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em-2.3.3-1 [snip] https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols/ Last Updated: 2023-05-01 02:12 UTC https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em/ Flagged out-of-date on 2023-04-30 Regards, Ralf

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