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[aur-general] Eclipse-Qt update
by Shaika-Dzari 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

Hi everyone. I sent an (gentle ^_^) email 4 days ago to eclipse-qt maintainer to ask him to update his package on Aur but I did not get any response. The last update was 24 June 2007. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=11798&O=25&L=0&C=0&K=… In my email, I offered him to adopt his package if he did not have the time to maintain it. What can we do if he did not response? Could I adopt his package or should I simply post my new pkgbuild as a comment? Thank you for your help. -- Shaika-Dzari http://www.guidelinux.org http://code.google.com/p/animeshell

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[aur-general] [REMOVAL] Discussion period for nesl247
by JJDaNiMoTh 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

Nesl, this officially marks the discussion period for your removal as a Trusted User. * You disappear ( and haven't vote ) since October; * Anyone know where you are ( any response on [who has seen him] thread) * Seems that you have resigned ( in chat.. lol ) For this paragraph of TU Bylaws There is one special case for removal, removal due to unwarranted and undeclared inactivity, for which standard voting procedure deviates from the above. This motion is also automatically triggered by repeated quorum offenses, as described in the Quorum subsection of this document. For this special case, SVP is followed with a discussion period of three days, a quorum of 66%, and a voting period of 5 days. I open the three day discussion period. -- JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

Missing x86_64 Packages: No new package supplied for python-pymedia 1.3.7.3-5! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] Trouble with package vim
by David Dupin 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

hi, I try to do an update this evening and when I launch pacman -Su I've got an error message : :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... error: cannot resolve "vi>=7.1.228", a dependency of "vim" error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: vim: requires vi>=7.1.228 Is there an update of vim without vi, or does the PKGBUILD is wrong with version number ? The latest vi version that I found is 7.1.156 with pacman. Regards.

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[aur-general] e17 packages in community (was orphaned packages in community)
by Ronald van Haren 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

To not clutter the 'orphaned packages in community' thread, I created a new one for discussing the e17 packages. As I have not yet heard something from reverie and I had some free time today, I decided to take a closer look to e17 (he is of course still free to contact me). Currently provided as orphans in community are snapshots. The latest e17 snapshot release has been August 2007 (the ones in community are one or two months older). This means that updating e17 to the latest snapshots still gives as an outdated version of e17. I did not find anything on the e17 mailing lists on when new snapshots will be provided, or why there are not updated anymore. So what have I done. I created all core e17 CVS packages from scratch and wrote a build script to easy update them all with just one command. I've been running them for the last 5 hours or so, and everything seems to work stable. I think it would not hurt if the CVS packages would come in place of the snapshots in community as it is not sure when, or even if the snapshots will be updated in the near future. If somebody is against, please speak. Also, I need somebody to at least test building it for x86_64 to check if I can safely use Aaron's build machine (I will contact him if so), or that I should better find someone to update it for x86_64. HOWTO TEST: Get the archive with all PKGBUILDs and the buildscript from http://pressh.googlepages.com/e17-cvs-pkgbuilds.tar.gz. Make sure you configure pacman to work with sudo before executing the buildscript (see the script for further details). For anybody else willing to test, you can add the following to your pacman.conf [e17-cvs] Server = http://pressh.googlepages.com/ Install the i686 versions with 'pacman -Sy e17-cvs' Thanks for your time!

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[aur-general] TU Resignation [zeus]
by Zhukov Pavel 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

Hi everyone, I have decided to resign from the TU position because i have no more free time to work with bleeding-edge distro like arch since i have a difficult full-time job, sorry. so, this packages in aur/community can be adopted by any TU: axel-svn 661-1 dellfand 0.8-1 generator 0.35_cbiere_r3-2 knetworkmanager-svn 674918-1 kstyle-dotnet2 1.5.1-2 lib32-libxp 1.0.0-1 linuxdcpp-ru 070717-1 microdc2 0.15.6-1 monkeystudio 2006.1.6.0.d.1.0.1-1 mp3unicode 1.2-2 octaveforge-cvs 20070420-1 pdfedit 0.3.2-1 pygments 0.8.1-1 qbittorrent 0.9.3-2 qdevelop 0.24-1 qsa 1.2.2-2 qtm 0.5.3-1 rafkill 1.2.3-2 rb_libtorrent 0.12-3 sdcv 0.4.2-1 slurm 0.3.3-1 stardict-ru_pack 1.0-1 tweak 0.2.2-1 uucp 1.07-1 weechat-cvs 20070805-1 yakuake-split 2.8.1.1-2 thank you all for great experience and fun times. :)

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[aur-general] Community todo.. qt and man pages
by JJDaNiMoTh 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hello to all, if you have nothing to do in this days ( work? no.. it's annoying ) ( girl? Uhm.. girl later! ) ( etc.. ) I've set up a little (!!!) todo list, which would help us: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community_todo . Step 1: man pages should moved on /usr/share/man Step 2: control qt / qt4 Thank you -- JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User

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[aur-general] disowning some packages
by Roman Kyrylych 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hi! After my inactivity period and finally restoring my internet connection I've realized that I cannot maintain many packages anymore, especially big ones. My speed is 6-8 kbytes/s. :-( Thus I'm willing to disown some of my packages. First of all, I want to get rid of games, because I don't play them anyway: - cube (requires zero maintainence because no longer developed, but still works) - assaultcube - sauerbraten (~200M, needs an update) - nexuiz (>250M) - glob2 Any volunteers? Next, I may also disown some other packages that need frequent updates because (most probably) I will move to another city next month and I don't know how easy it will be to get an ADSL (or at least a "street LAN") in a rented flat. If anyone is interested in maintaining some of my packages - let me know. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[aur-general] blueman
by Abhishek Dasgupta 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hi everyone, blueman is a GTK+ bluetooth management utility for GNOME using bluez dbus backend. However for some features (for example network connectivity and bluetooth audio sharing) bluez-utils has to be recompiled with some more options, which are not there in the stock bluez-utils in Arch. I wish to move the package into [community], however lots of features will not work if bluez-utils is not recompiled with the extra options. AFAIK, Ubuntu has these options enabled by default (at least some of them) as one user reported blueman to be working perfectly in Ubuntu. Should I print out a warning message during install? Any suggestions? Thanks, Abhishek

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[aur-general] Should TU put in [community] packages they use?
by bardo 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

This came to my mind reading the discussion about Sergej, but after some thinking I couldn't make up a clear opinion about it, so this thread just brings up the question. There's a few packages I maintain in unsupported that almost nobody voted, so I never moved them to [community]. But what if I use them in my daily activities? I'm interested in having an up-to-date package, so I'd maintain, build and test it anyway... should I share it with its (small) user base? Corrado

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[aur-general] qt-4 and qt3 will move to [extra]
by Pierre Schmitz 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Hi TUs, I plan to move qt-4, qt3 and all related packages from [testing] to [extra] this weekend. If you have any package which directly(!) depends on qt version 3 you'll have to update its dependency to qt3. If your package uses qt4 you mgiht want to change to just qt (but atm this is optional because qt provides qt4). If you package does not have a direct dependency like a kde application which just depends on kdelibs etc. you do not need to change anything. Greetings, Pierre -- http://www.archlinux.de

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[aur-general] REMOVAL: Discussion Period for sergej
by Callan Barrett 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

sergej, this officially marks the discussion period for your removal as a Trusted User. For weeks now it's come to my attention many times your attitude as a Trusted User as well as the attention of several other people and I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up earlier, I'm going to list the reasons I believe you're no longer fit to be a Trusted User and I want you to defend yourself on these points: * You have neglected voting long enough to be brought up for removal, even longer if you do not vote again in the next 2 days, and when you do vote it is only just "acceptable". * You currently maintain 602 packages in the community repo: - This is an insane amount of packages by any standard and yet you keep adopting more for no apparent reason other than to bump your package count, not many of them have a high vote count so why is this? You're not helping out by adopting packages when you can't maintain them properly. - It's possible for me to pick out almost any package at random that you maintain and find something that goes against arch packaging standards such as missing maintainer tags, missing licenses and some of the weirdest build functions I've ever seen, it's as if you adopt these packages straight out of unsupported without checking them at all. - The fact you don't bother with licenses has already become an issue, as I pointed out recently on the ML (which you did not even reply to) you had packaged smf *illegally*. Furthermore you leave licenses blank, add bogus licenses such as "unknown" or don't add a license variable at all, this is obviously not good enough. * Aside from voting occasionally your contribution to discussions are very few, part of being a TU is the community aspect and I know you're not the only person who does this. ~70 of your packages are missing licenses. ~440 are missing either a maintainer tag of contributor tag. ~550 are missing a maintainer tag. I think you have too many packages for anybody to maintain properly which seems to be the cause of your neglect towards them and I can't think up any justifiable reason that you adopt so many in the first place. I want you to reply to this thread so you can hopefully justify your actions but to be honest I see no reason why you should continue being a Trusted User with this attitude towards the job you agreed to when you applied. So begins the three day discussion period, I'm very interested in anyone's response to this issue. -- Callan 'wizzomafizzo' Barrett

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[aur-general] [Who has seen him?] nesl247 & zeus
by JJDaNiMoTh 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Welcome to the new program transmit on-the-cable from aur-general mailing list! Today, I want to speak you about two Trusted Users: nesl247 and zeus. They disappear without a message! The last message from nesl was http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2007-October/006022.html. I can't find the last message from zeus... I do not have too much time :D On the package's view, nesl doesn't have out-of-dated packages ( 0 of 5 maintained in community ), which last updated is system-config-printer ( Last Updated: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:01:01 ). Zeus has 17 packages in community, which 4 out-of-dated. I don't see the last-updated time.. is it needed? We're look for them.. but if you have any notice, please call 12-3456789, send a fax to 98-7654321 or reply to this mail. Thanks in advance! -- JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Missing x86_64 Packages: No new package supplied for libgadu 1.7.1-1! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] Policy for [community] packages
by Alexander Fehr 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

As suggested by Aaron I want to discuss whether we need a policy to decide what packages go into [community]. Should this decision be based on the number of votes a package has? Should we discuss each [community] candidate on the mailing list as it's done with [extra] candidates? Or should each TU decide on his own which package he wants to add to [community] as it's done now? Alex

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[aur-general] Note for partition: Gizmo license does not allow redistribution!
by Ronald van Haren 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Mateusz, Please read all custom licenses before submitting something to [community]. The gizmo license does not allow redistribution (unless you have some kind of third party agreement with them). Assuming you have not such an agreement, please remove it from [community] again ASAP. Thanks, Ronald

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[aur-general] Versioned Provisions
by Aaron Griffin 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

This is a little "heads up" email to all the package maintainers out there. Pacman 3.1 has support for versioned provisions. But what this also means is that there's going to be some breakages in packages. Let me explain by way of example: package foo depends=(bar>=1.2) package omg provides=(bar) In the past, you could install both foo and omg at the same time and everything would be satisfied. Not now. Now, the provision of "omg" will fail, because it's not providing the right version. What does this mean? Well, a few things. First and foremost, versioned provisions are a little broken in 3.1.0, but 3.1.1 will fix all this py allowing you to say: provides=(bar=1.2) Did I get this right? Dan, Xavier?

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[aur-general] [VOTE] Mateusz Herych (partition)
by Ronald van Haren 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hi TUs, After a busy discussion period, this mail starts the 7 day voting period for Mateusz. His introduction was here: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-January/006549.html Please be as active during the voting period as during the discussion period. My vote is YES. Best, Ronald

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[aur-general] DISCUSSION: Sebastian Nowicki (Xilon)
by Callan Barrett 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Alright, this marks the start of the 5 day discussion period for Xilon, you can see his original application here: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-January/006678.html I feel confident in his ability and it seems he's already getting a tonne of praise over the work he's already done so no problem over here. So get discussing... -- Callan 'wizzomafizzo' Barrett

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[aur-general] TU Application - Sebastian Nowicki
by Sebastian Nowicki 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hi, my name is Sebastian Nowicki. You may know me as Xilon from IRC, the bbs, AUR, or even the bug tracker. I am a 19 year old Computer Science and Internet Computing student. I have been using Archlinux for just over a year. I have been supporting other Archlinux users over the past year on the IRC channel, where I am now an operator. For the past 4 months I have also been coding AUR2, which some of you may know. I maintain 13 package in unsupported, and have had one package (powertop) taken to community. I also maintained gtkdc and dclibc, but due to the projects dieing upstream, I recently orphaned them. Having an AMD64 processor I will be able to compile both i686 and x86_64 packages. I have already setup the necessary chroots in order to do so. As a TU I would initially move the following packages to community: * btg * dbhub * dina-font * grc * screenwm * subtle These packages aren't very active upstream in terms of development, so I will probably be able to take on more packages from unsupported, or even from sergej ;). Callan mentioned that he would sponser me.

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[aur-general] Gnome package guidelines
by Roman Kyrylych 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Hi! I've seen an increasing demand for this, so... I've just made a public copy of JGC's excellent guidelines for Gnome packages here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gnome_package_guidelines This applies not only to Gnome packages but also to Xfce and some pure Gtk packages as well (not sure about KDE/Qt packages) - basically anything that use gconf, .desktop, hicolor icon theme etc. and is intended for usage in a desktop environment. (e.g. there's no need for Sauerbraten to use desktop-file-utils *just* because it includes .desktop file (it can be run a server only)). There is a collector bugreport for this: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9217 -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[aur-general] man pages move
by Roman Kyrylych 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

Hi! All AUR contributors, please note that "Man pages *should* be installed to /usr/share/man from here on out. The new makepkg (3.1) will no longer move man pages to /usr/man. This will begin our slow-but-steady phase in of FHS compliant man pages." Packages which EXPLICITLY use /usr/man in the PKGBUILD (perhaps through a configure option) should be fixed. TUs please take a look at http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9189 -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[aur-general] testing/extra
by Abhishek Dasgupta 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

I wish to use testing to try out KDE 4, however if I do that then the packages I'll be building for [community] will be compiled against [testing] libs, which will cause a problem. Is there a way in which I can safely try out testing, while also making sure that the packages I compile are built against libs in [extra]? -- Abhishek Dasgupta

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

Missing i686 Packages: No new package supplied for pygobject-docs 2.14.1-1! No new package supplied for pygtk-docs 2.12.1-1! No new package supplied for xen 3.1.2-2! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] Borked AUR/Community repo/cvs
by w9ya＠qrparci.net 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

Both Wizzo and myself have noticed that the 'communitypkg' package is "hanging" and requires a 'ctrl-c' to continue. The PKGBUILD seems to upload BUT the tarball does not. ALSO: the aur web interface does NOT record the new PKGBUILD either. Wizzo guesses that 'tupkg' is not connecting to 'aur'. In any event, I am guessing that someone who deals with this stuff, should look into this. Thanks for reading this.... Very best regards; Bob Finch Liviu Librescu - În veci pomenirea lui. (May his memory be eternal.)

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