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[arch-dev-public] firefox 2.0.0.7 package
by Thomas Bächler 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

I am in rant mood again. namcap exists and I think whoever rebuilt firefox has read http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2007-September/001644.html Yet, firefox still depends on gcc instead of gcc-libs. The goal is to get rid of the gcc dependency, so when a big package is rebuilt, it is a good idea to check if such changes should be applied, as nobody will rebuild them "just for fun". We have been encouraged by Aaron to communicate more, and I think we did in the last couple of days, but this doesn't mean anything if we just ignore what we read.

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[arch-dev-public] 'base' and 'base-devel' group
by Thomas Bächler 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

I am CC'ing this to the tur-users mailing list for reference, as the following applies to official repositories, as well as the community repository: I am planning to add all packages in core/base to the 'base' group and all packages in core/devel to the 'base-devel' group. The first allows quick installations in different roots with 'pacman -S base', the second will install a complete build environment for makepkg. This has been partially done already, but should be completed. In the next few days, all packages in core/base and core/devel will be rebuilt. This rebuild comes with a rule: No package outside of the 'core' repository may have group membership in 'base' or 'base-devel'. Thank you and good night Thomas

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[arch-dev-public] ISO Bug Release naming scheme
by Aaron Griffin 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Hey all, This is something that was never really discussed outright, so it's time to bring it up. Wel all agreed on a YYYY.MM naming scheme for our isos, but tacking on a release number (for bug fixes) makes it look like a day (in date format). Assuming we won't have bug releases is short sighted, so I think we should discuss a proper format for this, as it was never covered. Personally, I like: YYYY.MM-RELEASE for _all_ release. So the next kernel release would be: 2007.10-1 Opinions? Thanks, Aaron

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[arch-dev-public] New NVIDIA package 100.14.19 uploaded to testing
by Thomas Bächler 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

I just added nvidia and nvidia-utils 100.14.19 to testing. As I don't have all those kernels installed, I didn't take care of nvidia-ck, nvidia-suspend2 and nvidia-mm, could the respective maintainers please do that? This release has some awesome improvements: - Improved GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap out-of-memory handling. - Improved compatibility with recent X.Org X servers. - Fixed a problem causing X to render incorrectly after VT switches with composited desktops. - Improved compatibility with recent Linux 2.6 kernels. The first and third will improve beryl and compiz usage with nvidia drivers considerably, the second will hopefully allow us to run xorg-server 1.4 with nvidia.

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[arch-dev-public] newest bash and bash-completion
by Travis Willard 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Hey guys, Newest bash seems to kill bash-completion. I custom-wrote a patch and phrakture, toofishes, and I have all had a run at testing it (definitely not extensively). Basically the way it handles setting of read-only vars makes it blow up, and causes the remainder of our .bashrcs (after sourcing bash_completion) to not be executed. I've pushed a patched version of bash-completion to TESTING - if those of you using bash_completion could all make sure it's solid I'd appreciate it. :) Thanks! -- Travis

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[arch-dev-public] kernel-headers missing in packages.txt
by Tobias Powalowski 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

Hi did you change something in the last weeks, that kernel-headers is no more listed in packages.txt? this will break all ftp installs, just stumbled over it while trying to create ISO's with the ntfs bug fixed. i can recreate ISO's on sunday so would be cool if someone could look at the packages.txt issue. thanks greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-dev-public] cvslog added to core repo
by Aaron Griffin 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

The core repo should now send us emails on the arch-commits list. If someone has something legitimate to commit, please test and let me know if it worked - I don't want to artificially inflate the repo. Aaron

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[arch-dev-public] Devtools problems
by Dan McGee 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

dmcgee@dublin ~/projects/repos/core/base/pacman $ corepkg scp: staging/core/add: No such file or directory Cancelled dmcgee@dublin ~/projects/repos/core/base/pacman $ ll /usr/bin/*pkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.6K 2007-09-16 07:48 /usr/bin/checkpkg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2007-05-12 01:46 /usr/bin/communitypkg -> /usr/bin/extrapkg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2007-09-16 07:48 /usr/bin/corepkg -> extrapkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.9K 2007-09-16 07:48 /usr/bin/extrapkg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2007-06-18 11:02 /usr/bin/ghc-pkg -> ghc-pkg-6.6 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28K 2007-06-20 01:25 /usr/bin/makepkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.3K 2007-05-14 23:48 /usr/bin/queuepkg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2007-09-16 07:48 /usr/bin/testingpkg -> extrapkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.3K 2007-09-16 17:33 /usr/bin/testpkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5.2K 2007-02-22 02:23 /usr/bin/tupkg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2007-09-16 07:48 /usr/bin/unstablepkg -> extrapkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5.4K 2007-08-02 02:40 /usr/bin/versionpkg A few problems here: 1. Why did the behavior of corepkg/extrapkg and friends suddenly require a staging directory on my machine? This seems wrong. The old way was perfectly acceptable... 2. Why is communitypkg an absolute link and the rest are not? Right now, devtools is broken to me. Let me know if someone plans on fixing it or if I'm going to back out changes that seem wrong to me. Right now I can't upgrade a package if I wanted to (pacman 3.0.6 anyone?). -Dan

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[arch-dev-public] Important changes for all users, developers and TUs
by Thomas Bächler 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

Hi lists, we made some changes to repositories and packages which I'd like to summarize here. 1) (everyone, including users): The current repository is gone. Instead, we have a slimmer core repository and the rest of the packages went to the extra repository. I won't discuss the reasons for that change here, but if necessary, I'd be happy to explain it in a later post. If any packages are missing, don't hesitate to post bug reports. A pacman update will add a /etc/pacman.d/core file and users should change all references in pacman.conf from current to core. We added symlinks for compatibility, so the name current should still work for a while. 2) (everyone, including users): The repository scripts on our server now support the pacman3 style package naming. Our repositories are now partially incompatible with pacman2, as it will fail to find some files. If you haven't updated to pacman3 yet, you can still manually download the libarchive, libdownload and pacman packages from the ftp and install them with pacman2. 3) (users) FTP installations are broken for now, maybe we will have time to fix them soon. Until then, use a base CD to install. 4) (developers and TUs) Related to 1) and 2), a new devtools package has been uploaded. Packages are not renamed any more when uploading. An exception to this is communitypkg, as the community scripts on the server haven't been updated to the pacman3 naming style yet. All devs are encouraged to use the new style names from now on. The currentpkg script is gone, instead there is a corepkg script now, as well as /arch/db-core{,64} on the server. 5) (developers and TUs) The gcc package has been split in gcc and gcc-libs. Packages must not depend on gcc anymore, all those packages should be changed to depend on gcc-libs. This allows us to use C++ applications without forcing users to have gcc installled. Please update your packages as soon as possible. 6) (developers) All former current packages are now in extra or core. We lost the mantainer data for those, so please adopt all packages that were previously yours. This also affects packages which were moved from extra to core. If I forgot anything, tell me. Keep having fun with Arch. Thomas

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[arch-dev-public] moving OOo/neon stuff from testing to extra
by Andreas Radke 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

Daniel and me are preparing to move neon and new OpenOffice incl. i18n later tonight. these are big uploads. it will take a while until we can run the db scripts. btw: i've changed the OOo splash - but it's still showing our nice non Abiword logo! :D Andy

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