February 2009 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] man-db 2.5.3-2 replacing man
by Alessandro Doro 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Andreas Radke wrote: > Anything else to improve? Replacing man with man-db will leave the old whatis databases on the system, with no package owning them. On my system: /opt/java/jre/man/whatis /opt/java/man/whatis /usr/local/man/whatis /usr/man/whatis /usr/man/it/whatis /usr/share/man/whatis /usr/share/man/it/whatis A warning about the issue? A solution could be a man package update with an uninstall script that take care of this, then go on with man-db.

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[arch-general] About: size of the "display"...
by Alessandro Doro 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

On Feb 19, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 02:52:17PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: >> For us maybe a grub entry with parameter vga=ask is the best, so >> users >> could select their resolution. >> But IMHO we should "design" our bash dialogs in a way that they >> also be >> usable on a normal 80x25 console.. > > Yeah I agree we should design things to fit within 80 columns. > I find longer lines are generally harder to read and edit than shorter > lines as well. > The dialogs should also be resolution agnostic. And if the installer will be internationalized, dialog design will be trickier. A hard job indeed.

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[arch-general] Ruby 1.9 upgrade and some more
by Kessia 'even' Pinheiro 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Hi all, I'm doing a recompile of ruby for version 1.9. The needed are, in that order: - recompile ruby to version 1.9 (no change) - recompile vi and vim [applying the new patch's until version 108, arch today only apply 65] and applying a patch for make compatible with ruby1.9, it's done already. - move rails to community - removing rake and rubygems dependency - drop rake and rubygems from community to /dev/null [ruby now provides both] - verify which packages needed ruby and check compatibility -- Kessia Pinheiro Computer Science Student - Brazil, UFBa Linux System Administrator Arch Linux Trusted User Linux User #389695 http://even.archlinux-br.org --- X Fórum Internacional Software Livre - fisl10 24 a 27 de junho de 2009 PUCRS - Porto Alegre - Brasil

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[arch-general] Weird acpid issue
by Leonid Grinberg 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Hello, My laptop has ACPI running to detect, among other things, the lid state, so that it can shut off the screen if it is closed. However, every once in a while, the functionality simply doesn't work -- I close the lid and the computer doesn't respond. Running /etc/rc.d/acpid restart makes it work again, only to fail again in a few days. I am running ACPI 1.2 on 2.6.28. Any ideas? -- Thanks, Leonid Grinberg lgrinberg(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] [ARCH-GENERAL] alsaplayer gtk2 interfacelost?
by Javier Vasquez 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

My alsaplayer configuration file includes: % cat ~/.alsaplayer/config # # alsaplayer config file # # Only edit this file if the application is not active. # Any modifications might (will!) be lost otherwise. # http.buffer_size=1048576 main.default_interface=gtk2 main.default_output=alsa main.fallback_interface=text main.period_count=8 main.period_size=4096 main.play_on_start=false But when I run alsaplayer with verbosity I get: % alsaplayer --verbose AlsaPlayer 0.99.80 (C) 1999-2004 Andy Lo A Foe <andy(a)alsaplayer.org> and others. Output plugin: ALSA output v1.9.0beta12 Loading reader plugin: HTTP reader v1.3 Loading reader plugin: File reader v1.1 Loading Input plugin: MikMod player v1.0 Loading Input plugin: WAV player v1.01 Loading Input plugin: Ogg Vorbis player v1.2 Loading Input plugin: CDDA player v1.2 Loading Input plugin: flac player v1.1.3/1.1.4/1.2 Loading Input plugin: libsndfile plugin v0.1 Loading Input plugin: MAD MPEG audio plugin v1.01 Loading Input plugin: Audio File Library player v0.2.1 Interface plugin: TEXT interface v1.1 Nothing to play. I'm not sure why the text interface was started. I tried changing the fallback interface to gtk2, and things fail like: % alsaplayer --verbose AlsaPlayer 0.99.80 (C) 1999-2004 Andy Lo A Foe <andy(a)alsaplayer.org> and others. Output plugin: ALSA output v1.9.0beta12 Loading reader plugin: HTTP reader v1.3 Loading reader plugin: File reader v1.1 Loading Input plugin: MikMod player v1.0 Loading Input plugin: WAV player v1.01 Loading Input plugin: Ogg Vorbis player v1.2 Loading Input plugin: CDDA player v1.2 Loading Input plugin: flac player v1.1.3/1.1.4/1.2 Loading Input plugin: libsndfile plugin v0.1 Loading Input plugin: MAD MPEG audio plugin v1.01 Loading Input plugin: Audio File Library player v0.2.1 Failed to load text interface. This is bad (gtk2,gtk2,/usr/lib/alsaplayer) Any idea why gtk2 alsaplayer interface doesn't seem to work? The package is i686: % pacman -Qs alsaplayer local/alsaplayer 0.99.80-1 ... Thanks, -- Javier

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.6-1
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] cdrecord instead of wodim
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Joerg Schilling wrote: > dev=ATAPI is a dirty trick that was needed in 2001 because the linus kernel > guys have been unable to fix their kernel panics with PC-Card connected writers. > > Just use the _official_ SCSI address syntax. There is no need to specify > anything additional. dev=1,0,0 or similar is sufficient. > > Jörg > > OK Jörg thanks. Something that I was unclear, because the documentation does not talk about the devices names /dev/sr0 (SCSI CDROM) Seems that for use this sintax official sintax (n,n,n) the sg (SCSI generic) module needs to be loaded, unlike the use of _bad_ sintax /dev/sr0 not need the sg module is loaded cdrecord -scanbus (without sg module don't work) I am interested not load the module sg, sg as the module not only enables access to the cd-roms, but also hard drives ##For example without "sg" (only "sr_mod") # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a57 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2009 Jörg Schilling ... ##Using the cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATAPI work # cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a57 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2009 Jörg Schilling ... scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GH20NS15 ' 'IL00' Removable CD-ROM scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8163B' '0L23' Removable CD-ROM # cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -checkdrive #*Works* (remember only sr_mod is loaded) ##Now with sg module loaded... # cdrecord -scanbus | grep "0,0" Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34 0,0,0 0) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD6400AAKS-6' '01.0' Disk 1,0,0 100) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD6400AAKS-0' '01.0' Disk 2,0,0 200) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD5000AAKS-0' '12.0' Disk 3,0,0 300) 'ATA ' 'WDC WD5000AAKS-0' '12.0' Disk 4,0,0 400) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GH20NS15 ' 'IL00' Removable CD-ROM 6,0,0 600) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8163B' '0L23' Removable CD-ROM and this is what we do not want to, I see the hard drives here, so I avoid using the module sg. Then my last question is, and I will be more than grateful: Is there any way to use the syntax dev=n,n,n without using the module sg, and only with the sr_mod module? Many thanks Jörg for the support, will not give personalized support to the public, thanks for the exception :) PS (for Jörg): I hope not to be annoying. PS (for Arch ML): Apologize to the list, but I think this is interesting that they can read it publicly. -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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Re: [arch-general] cdrecord instead of wodim
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Joerg Schilling wrote: > Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi <vmlinuz386(a)yahoo.com.ar> wrote: > > >> Now i tested the latest alpha version of cdrecord ( >> cdrtools-2.01.01a57.tar.gz ) and its work perfect without the DMA problem. >> The version that failed was <= cdrtools-2.01.01a55.tar.gz, with these >> versions i need to set very low write speed (when i upgraded my DVD >> writer from PATA to SATA, both LG) >> > > There always was the documented way to set the environment variable > "CDR_FORCESPEED" and setting "burnfree" also disables the speed limit. > > Now > > Ohh OK. Yes, I was aware of the variable "CDR_FORCESPEED" but not actually used by the warning given by the manual about it. But now it seems this behavior is by default, am I right? Was unaware of the option burnfree enable this feature, thanks;) >> Now inform this: "cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been >> skipped." http://djgera.pastebin.com/m35195bbe >> >> I prefer to use cdrecord, is the soft that i used for 7 years with my >> previus distribution (Slackware Linux) and as you said, is updated very >> often. >> >> Thanks for the work! :) >> > > Thank you > > >> I take this message to make a consultation, this was one of the major >> topics of discussion between you and some Linux developers. Does >> cdrecord: allowing access through dev=/dev/xyz, or as the message says: >> "Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported". will be >> removed in future versions? >> > > If currently works, but this is not a supported feature and thus it may > stop working at any time. > > I recommend to use the official syntax that is used by libscg since August 1986. > Note that if you only have one drive, there is no need to specify dev= at all. > > It seems to me or I'm wrong?. This syntax requires to work properly generic scsi module and via /dev/sr0 don't need it?. I did not compile this (sg) on my system. But for example if execute: $ cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a57 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2009 Jörg Schilling scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: dev=ATA: is preferred over dev=ATAPI:. Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained. Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. This Warning appears. That's why I prefer to use it that way and avoid problems, and I prefer not to load the module sg, because it loads the SATA hard drives as generic devices, adding this to the already loaded scsi disks sd) Apparently, I have to load the module sg ATA mode to work. Thanks for the help Jörg. :) > Jörg > > Greetings from Argentina. -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] Common Lisp packaging
by Leslie P. Polzer 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

I've noticed that the Arch Haskell community has made astonishing progress with their packages. I think it would be nice to have the same for Common Lisp. Would anyone be interested in devising a packaging system that works with multiple Lisps? Cheers, Leslie -- LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/polzer Xing Profile: https://www.xing.com/profile/LeslieP_Polzer Blog: http://blog.viridian-project.de/

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[arch-general] ndiswrapper problem
by Avramucz Péter 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hi! I have a Broadcom 4312 (rev 01). It seems to be, the best method is ndiswrapper using it. However, when I use it, wpa_supplicant can associate with the ap, but dhclient/dhcpcd can't get a dhcpoffer. Using the wl driver, there is no problem. Here is the interesting thing: using sysrescueccd (2.6.27 kernel, 1.53 ndiswrapper ebuild: http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/49806/View) I can simply get a dhcpoffer, so there is something with the ndiswrapper of Arch Linux. Any ideas?

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