December 2022 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

Python 3.11 timeline?
by David Rosenstrauch 04 May '23

04 May '23

Anyone know if there's any timeline on when we'll see python 3.11 get released to Arch? I emailed the maintainer about this directly recently, but didn't hear anything back. I know this is a big upgrade, and lots of dependent packages are involved, so this might require some time. I just was wondering if there was any roadmap/timeline for how long that might be. Thanks, DR

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Mailing list to discuss ArchWiki?
by Polarian 08 Jan '23

08 Jan '23

Hello, I have realised a lot of the ArchWiki discussions are very empty, and have not been used for years for some of the pages. At first I thought this was because the pages were just not edited very often, but now I have realised that even the most popular pages do not have many discussions. Is there a mailing list for the ArchWiki, or do ArchWiki memebers use an alternative form of discussion to discuss wiki related subjects? Thank you, Polarian

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Arch Keyring Up To Date but Errors in journal?
by David C. Rankin 06 Jan '23

06 Jan '23

All, I saw a handful of Archlinux gpg errors in the journal and thought my arch keyring must need updating, so I issued the command to update the keyring -- and it was up to date: # pacman -Sy --needed archlinux-keyring :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date cingg is up to date warning: archlinux-keyring-20221220-1 is up to date -- skipping there is nothing to do Why do I still see key Arch gpg errors in the journal, e.g.: Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90563]: gpg: error retrieving 'alucryd(a)archlinux.org' via WKD: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90563]: gpg: error reading key: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)vbsimple.net... Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Refreshing key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)archlinux.org... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90566]: gpg: error retrieving 'muflone(a)archlinux.org' via WKD: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90566]: gpg: error reading key: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)muflone.com... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 75BD80E4D834509F6E740257B1B73B02CC52A02A with UID diabonas(a)master-key.archlinux.org... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Refreshing key 8A9BC5819C54FEB3DC2A9B48C32217F6F13FF192 with UID xyproto(a)archlinux.org... And the real question -- do I need to fix part of the keyring, or is this just temporary noise? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Dmarc failures
by Polarian 03 Jan '23

03 Jan '23

Hello, So I have very strict DMARC settings on my domain, so I am aware I am going to get a lot of warnings. I have used "include" in my spf record for polarian.dev to allow lists.archlinux.org to redirect emails (because of mailing list), however DMARC still fails. In most cases DKIM remains untouched, therefore passes, but in a select few cases the DKIM signature was tampered with according to the reports I have gotten back, which is very strange, I assume this is not lists.archlinux.org fault but some people on the list use email proxies which are probably not configured well. DKIM is not the issue though, SPF is. lists.archlinux.org is included, but yet spf still fails, upon further inspection it seems lists.archlinux.org uses 2 different IPv4 addresses, but only one is named in the SPF record, thus failing. Does anyone else have these issues with the arch linux mailing list? Thanks, Polarian

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Documentation on pacman / libalpm package repositories
by Paul Stemmet 01 Jan '23

01 Jan '23

Hi General, I'm looking for the reference documentation to a pacman / Archlinux http(s) package repository. Specifically, I'm investigating how to host a public repo for the binary artifacts from ceph builds. I'm hoping for a page similar to Debian's on hosting+format [1][2], but any pointers would be much appreciated. Kind regards, and happy new years! Paul Stemmet [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup [2]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Format -- ~Paul Stemmet email: archlinux.lists at luxolus.com

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custom USB device - Was: Mailing list to discuss ArchWiki?
by Ralf Mardorf 28 Dec '22

28 Dec '22

On Wed, 2022-12-28 at 12:58 -0600, mike lojkovic wrote: > There were some helpful posts for creating a multi-OS install disc > that was taken down a few years back. Mainly how to build a custom USB > device that allows one to install Windows, as well as other Linux > OSes. It was not Arch centric; but, it greatly simplified system > administration, and Arch bloat for maintaining such a disc. Hi, I'm using Ventoy [ https://www.ventoy.net/en/isolist.html ] to hold a persistent Xubuntu on a thumb drive. However, it's possible to just copy additional installs to this thumb drive, too. Since my thumb drive is ext formatted, in my case Windows won't work, but ext isn't the default. Maybe this is something similar to what you mentioned. Ok, whatever "Arch bloat" is for, Ventoy doesn't help with maintaining an Arch install, so probably this is not similar to what you mentioned. Ventoy is available either by aur/ventoy-bin https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ventoy-bin or chaotic-aur/ventoy-bin https://aur.chaotic.cx/ The Ventoy developer is subscribed to the Arch forums, https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=133208 . Related to Ventoy the Arch Wiki isn't much of a help, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ventoy . Regards, Ralf

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Re: Arch-general Digest, Vol 4, Issue 13
by Frank LoPinto 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

Hello Dave, You can get past this by typing pacman-key --recv-keys 76A5EF9054449A5C This will refresh Pierre Schmitz's key. You can check the key id at https://pierre-schmitz.com/about/gpg-keys/pierre-packager-key/ Merry Christmas! Frank On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 12:03 AM <arch-general-request(a)lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > Send Arch-general mailing list submissions to > arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > arch-general-request(a)lists.archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > arch-general-owner(a)lists.archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Arch-general digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. pacstrap complaining about corrupt package (David N Murray) > 2. Re: pacstrap complaining about corrupt package (Mike Yuan) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David N Murray <dmurray(a)jsbsystems.com> > To: arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:12:32 -0500 > Subject: pacstrap complaining about corrupt package > > Hi all, > > Trying to install Arch on a new birthday/Christmas present. I'm manually copying this (abbreviated) because I can't figure out how to get the text off the new box: > > # pacstrap /mnt linux linux-firmware base btrfs-progs intel-ucode nano iw > [snipped the package list and stuff] > :: Retrieving packages... > openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64 ... > (126/126) checking keys in keyring > (126/126) checking package integrity > error: openssl: signature from "Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.org> <pierre(a)archlinux.org>" is marginal trust > :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). > [failure messages] > > Things I've tried/checked: > * clock on the new box has correct time > * pacman -Syu from another machine. That pulled down a new archlinux-keyring and openssl-3.0.7-4 and it ran fine > * new machine has same mirrorlist that worked with the pacman -Syu > * commented out mirrorlist entries one-at-a-time to see if it was one mirror problem. 5 servers all give the same results. > > The other 125 packages that were downloaded all passed the integrity check (I think). > > Any suggestions? > > TIA, > Dave Murray > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike Yuan <me(a)yhndnzj.com> > To: David N Murray <dmurray(a)jsbsystems.com> > Cc: arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 13:17:14 +0800 > Subject: Re: pacstrap complaining about corrupt package > The keyring shipped in the 2022.12.01 ISO is outdated. You’ll need to > update it using `pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring` first before pacstrap-ping :) > > Hi all, >> >> Trying to install Arch on a new birthday/Christmas present. I'm manually copying this (abbreviated) because I can't figure out how to get the text off the new box: >> >> # pacstrap /mnt linux linux-firmware base btrfs-progs intel-ucode nano iw >> [snipped the package list and stuff] >> :: Retrieving packages... >> openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64 ... >> (126/126) checking keys in keyring >> (126/126) checking package integrity >> error: openssl: signature from "Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.org> <pierre(a)archlinux.org>" is marginal trust >> :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). >> [failure messages] >> >> Things I've tried/checked: >> * clock on the new box has correct time >> * pacman -Syu from another machine. That pulled down a new archlinux-keyring and openssl-3.0.7-4 and it ran fine >> * new machine has same mirrorlist that worked with the pacman -Syu >> * commented out mirrorlist entries one-at-a-time to see if it was one mirror problem. 5 servers all give the same results. >> >> The other 125 packages that were downloaded all passed the integrity check (I think). >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> TIA, >> Dave Murray >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Arch-general mailing list -- arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > To unsubscribe send an email to arch-general-leave(a)lists.archlinux.org >

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pacstrap complaining about corrupt package
by David N Murray 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

Hi all, Trying to install Arch on a new birthday/Christmas present. I'm manually copying this (abbreviated) because I can't figure out how to get the text off the new box: # pacstrap /mnt linux linux-firmware base btrfs-progs intel-ucode nano iw [snipped the package list and stuff] :: Retrieving packages... openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64 ... (126/126) checking keys in keyring (126/126) checking package integrity error: openssl: signature from "Pierre Schmitz<pierre(a)archlinux.org>" is marginal trust :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). [failure messages] Things I've tried/checked: * clock on the new box has correct time * pacman -Syu from another machine. That pulled down a new archlinux-keyring and openssl-3.0.7-4 and it ran fine * new machine has same mirrorlist that worked with the pacman -Syu * commented out mirrorlist entries one-at-a-time to see if it was one mirror problem. 5 servers all give the same results. The other 125 packages that were downloaded all passed the integrity check (I think). Any suggestions? TIA, Dave Murray

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Re: RFC - thoughts about Arch and init freedom? (proposal for comments on arch-general)
by David C. Rankin 20 Dec '22

20 Dec '22

On 12/16/22 15:46, Andreas Radke wrote: > I suggest to fix this lack of init choice/alternative. I'd like to > implement it into the official Arch Linux repos allowing to choose > some different init replacement. We can either just add a 2nd init > system in the most simple way or allow real init-freedom[3] offering > full choice and leave it up to be further filled by the community. I remember the discussions well. Most of which took place on the arch-general list at the time. It may be helpful to take feedback from the arch-general list, at least to get feedback on the current community thoughts on the matter. For me, I think it is a great idea Andreas. While for desktop use systemd has captured a majority of the distros -- and no complaints, the take-it-or-leave-it if you want Arch seems a bit restrictive. While the change from init-scripts to systemd was uncomfortable at the time, the transition was done well. That said, the point made about providing an alternative init to help with implementation on new architectures is well-taken. While systemd does provide a great deal of functionality, it also fairly heavy. Keeping systemd as a default while providing an alternative init for those that would benefit from -- or just like to use -- an alternative init sounds like a solid way to go. Essentially giving Arch the best of both worlds. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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xflock4 doesn't work anymore
by Ralf Mardorf 20 Dec '22

20 Dec '22

Hi, usually I lock the screen of my openbox sessions (no DE) on demand by running xflock4 . Today I locked the screen using dm-tool lock , since xflock4 fails. I don't know when it exactly stopped working. The time frame is between the beginning of last week, until today. pacman.log shows [2022-12-16T13:56:41+0100] [ALPM] upgraded xfce4-session (4.16.0-2 -> 4.18.0-1) I wonder if it's a bug or if some changes require to re/start something etc.. Regards, Ralf

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