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[arch-general] System terribly slow
by riveravaldez 27 Oct '25

27 Oct '25

Hi, I'm looking for some advice trying to pinpoint why or where my system has becoming almost unusable slow. Searching the web I've found some hints but nothing precise enough. Maybe it's a failing HDD, but I'm first posting what I have until now in the hope someone can give some advice. Superficial symptoms are a general slowness. I'm using just IceWM and `startx` to initialize the GUI, and even logging into my account previous to that takes almost a minute to get done. Then any application I launch takes minutes to just start (from IceWM to firefox, from qtox to pcmanfm or geany, etc.). Even navigate the folders tree with pcmanfm takes 10 or more seconds just to show any folder content... Hope some of this helps: $ sudo journalctl -b -exp3 -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 19:50:29 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Asking for cache data failed dic 03 00:48:43 arch kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: cannot open directory '/home/dell/Software/VMs/TrisquelMini8': No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:39 arch libvirtd[592]: error interno: Falló al iniciar automáticamente el grupo de almacenamiento 'TrisquelMini8': cannot open directory '/home/dell/Softwar> dic 03 00:50:41 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:50:57 arch libvirtd[592]: No se encontró 'dmidecode' en ruta: No existe el fichero o el directorio dic 03 00:56:40 arch systemd[1]: Failed to start Disk Manager. Subject: A start job for unit udisks2.service has failed Defined-By: systemd Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel A start job for unit udisks2.service has finished with a failure. The job identifier is 1072 and the job result is failed. $ systemctl --state=failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION 0 loaded units listed. $ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 11.038s (kernel) + 1min 31.352s (userspace) = 1min 42.391s graphical.target reached after 1min 31.352s in userspace $ systemd-analyze blame 37.946s polkit.service 29.248s dev-sda1.device 28.827s systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service 24.692s udisks2.service 15.936s systemd-journal-flush.service 14.228s systemd-hwdb-update.service 13.930s ldconfig.service 13.502s upower.service 12.881s ufw.service 8.830s user(a)1000.service 7.556s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 7.280s avahi-daemon.service 7.275s bluetooth.service 7.262s iwd.service 6.067s systemd-logind.service 6.058s systemd-machined.service 5.825s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 5.123s systemd-sysusers.service 4.569s systemd-udevd.service 4.511s systemd-resolved.service 4.281s systemd-networkd.service 3.724s systemd-journal-catalog-update.service 3.415s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-1d72b82c\x2d9c58\x2d4f57\x2d97a3\x2de29ff35a5632.service 2.959s systemd-modules-load.service 2.557s lm_sensors.service 2.503s systemd-random-seed.service 2.389s systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service 1.983s dev-disk-by\x2duuid-84c91978\x2da09c\x2d4087\x2db60d\x2d86730d142f63.swap 1.967s systemd-backlight@leds:dell::kbd_backlight.service 1.563s systemd-timesyncd.service 1.457s systemd-update-utmp.service 1.287s systemd-udev-trigger.service 1.278s systemd-rfkill.service 1.219s alsa-restore.service 1.164s systemd-sysctl.service (...) $ systemctl status polkit.service ● polkit.service - Authorization Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service; static) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:50:28 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:polkit(8) Main PID: 613 (polkitd) Tasks: 12 (limit: 6993) Memory: 18.9M CPU: 1.032s CGroup: /system.slice/polkit.service └─613 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug dic 03 00:49:50 arch systemd[1]: Starting Authorization Manager... dic 03 00:50:05 arch polkitd[613]: Started polkitd version 0.120 dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:26 arch polkitd[613]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Finished loading, compiling and executing 6 rules dic 03 00:50:28 arch systemd[1]: Started Authorization Manager. dic 03 00:50:28 arch polkitd[613]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 on the system bus $ systemctl status dev-sda1.device ● dev-sda1.device - Hitachi_HTS545025B9A300 ROOT Follows: unit currently follows state of sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1f.2-ata1-host0-target0:0:0-0:0:0:0-block-sda-sda1.device Loaded: loaded Active: active (plugged) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:49:12 -03; 19h ago Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda/sda1 Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. $ systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service ○ systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of Temporary Directories Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2021-12-03 01:03:52 -03; 19h ago TriggeredBy: ● systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer Docs: man:tmpfiles.d(5) man:systemd-tmpfiles(8) Process: 1473 ExecStart=systemd-tmpfiles --clean (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1473 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 185ms dic 03 01:03:23 arch systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. dic 03 01:03:52 arch systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. $ systemctl status udisks2.service ● udisks2.service - Disk Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks2.service; disabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:59:51 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:udisks(8) Main PID: 1129 (udisksd) Tasks: 5 (limit: 6993) Memory: 3.2M CPU: 23.045s CGroup: /system.slice/udisks2.service └─1129 /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd dic 03 00:59:26 arch systemd[1]: Starting Disk Manager... dic 03 00:59:26 arch udisksd[1129]: udisks daemon version 2.9.4 starting dic 03 00:59:51 arch systemd[1]: Started Disk Manager. dic 03 00:59:54 arch udisksd[1129]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.UDisks2 on the system message bus $ systemctl status systemd-journal-flush.service ● systemd-journal-flush.service - Flush Journal to Persistent Storage Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journal-flush.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:59 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) Process: 283 ExecStart=journalctl --flush (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 283 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 15ms dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd[1]: Starting Flush Journal to Persistent Storage... dic 03 00:48:59 arch systemd[1]: Finished Flush Journal to Persistent Storage. $ systemctl status systemd-hwdb-update.service ● systemd-hwdb-update.service - Rebuild Hardware Database Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-hwdb-update.service; static) Active: active (exited) since Fri 2021-12-03 00:48:57 -03; 19h ago Docs: man:hwdb(7) man:systemd-hwdb(8) Process: 279 ExecStart=systemd-hwdb update (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 279 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CPU: 1.746s dic 03 00:48:57 arch systemd[1]: Finished Rebuild Hardware Database. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-journald.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:49:18 -03. -- dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Journal started dic 03 00:48:43 arch systemd-journald[271]: Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 8.0M, max 292.4M, 284.4M free. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: Time spent on flushing to /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c is 7.561088s for 798 entries. dic 03 00:48:44 arch systemd-journald[271]: System Journal (/var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c) is 16.0M, max 2.4G, 2.4G free. $ journalctl -b -u systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\\x2duuid-1d72b82c\\x2d9c58\\x2d4f57\\x2d97a3\\x2de29ff35a5632.service -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-12-02 23:59:31 -03, ends at Fri 2021-12-03 20:52:36 -03. -- dic 03 00:49:18 arch systemd[1]: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632... dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd-fsck[485]: HOME: limpio, 208781/13107200 ficheros, 37165716/52398592 bloques dic 03 00:49:21 arch systemd[1]: Finished File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1d72b82c-9c58-4f57-97a3-e29ff35a5632. $ journalctl --verify PASS: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/user-1000.journal 3b84d8: Data object's entry array not sorted File corruption detected at /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal:915878 (of 16777216 bytes, 56%). FAIL: /var/log/journal/431f639f382e4bad8a43628868f2fc6c/system.journal (Mensaje erróneo) $ journalctl --disk-usage Archived and active journals take up 24.0M in the file system. Maybe it's pertinent to mention that I've just cleaned up /var/log/journal to rule out storage issues. Any help will be most welcome. Thanks a lot in advance.

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Python 3.11 timeline?
by David Rosenstrauch 04 May '23

04 May '23

Anyone know if there's any timeline on when we'll see python 3.11 get released to Arch? I emailed the maintainer about this directly recently, but didn't hear anything back. I know this is a big upgrade, and lots of dependent packages are involved, so this might require some time. I just was wondering if there was any roadmap/timeline for how long that might be. Thanks, DR

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Mailing list to discuss ArchWiki?
by Polarian 08 Jan '23

08 Jan '23

Hello, I have realised a lot of the ArchWiki discussions are very empty, and have not been used for years for some of the pages. At first I thought this was because the pages were just not edited very often, but now I have realised that even the most popular pages do not have many discussions. Is there a mailing list for the ArchWiki, or do ArchWiki memebers use an alternative form of discussion to discuss wiki related subjects? Thank you, Polarian

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Arch Keyring Up To Date but Errors in journal?
by David C. Rankin 06 Jan '23

06 Jan '23

All, I saw a handful of Archlinux gpg errors in the journal and thought my arch keyring must need updating, so I issued the command to update the keyring -- and it was up to date: # pacman -Sy --needed archlinux-keyring :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date cingg is up to date warning: archlinux-keyring-20221220-1 is up to date -- skipping there is nothing to do Why do I still see key Arch gpg errors in the journal, e.g.: Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90563]: gpg: error retrieving 'alucryd(a)archlinux.org' via WKD: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90563]: gpg: error reading key: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)vbsimple.net... Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Refreshing key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)archlinux.org... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90566]: gpg: error retrieving 'muflone(a)archlinux.org' via WKD: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90566]: gpg: error reading key: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)muflone.com... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 75BD80E4D834509F6E740257B1B73B02CC52A02A with UID diabonas(a)master-key.archlinux.org... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Refreshing key 8A9BC5819C54FEB3DC2A9B48C32217F6F13FF192 with UID xyproto(a)archlinux.org... And the real question -- do I need to fix part of the keyring, or is this just temporary noise? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Dmarc failures
by Polarian 03 Jan '23

03 Jan '23

Hello, So I have very strict DMARC settings on my domain, so I am aware I am going to get a lot of warnings. I have used "include" in my spf record for polarian.dev to allow lists.archlinux.org to redirect emails (because of mailing list), however DMARC still fails. In most cases DKIM remains untouched, therefore passes, but in a select few cases the DKIM signature was tampered with according to the reports I have gotten back, which is very strange, I assume this is not lists.archlinux.org fault but some people on the list use email proxies which are probably not configured well. DKIM is not the issue though, SPF is. lists.archlinux.org is included, but yet spf still fails, upon further inspection it seems lists.archlinux.org uses 2 different IPv4 addresses, but only one is named in the SPF record, thus failing. Does anyone else have these issues with the arch linux mailing list? Thanks, Polarian

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Documentation on pacman / libalpm package repositories
by Paul Stemmet 01 Jan '23

01 Jan '23

Hi General, I'm looking for the reference documentation to a pacman / Archlinux http(s) package repository. Specifically, I'm investigating how to host a public repo for the binary artifacts from ceph builds. I'm hoping for a page similar to Debian's on hosting+format [1][2], but any pointers would be much appreciated. Kind regards, and happy new years! Paul Stemmet [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup [2]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Format -- ~Paul Stemmet email: archlinux.lists at luxolus.com

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custom USB device - Was: Mailing list to discuss ArchWiki?
by Ralf Mardorf 28 Dec '22

28 Dec '22

On Wed, 2022-12-28 at 12:58 -0600, mike lojkovic wrote: > There were some helpful posts for creating a multi-OS install disc > that was taken down a few years back. Mainly how to build a custom USB > device that allows one to install Windows, as well as other Linux > OSes. It was not Arch centric; but, it greatly simplified system > administration, and Arch bloat for maintaining such a disc. Hi, I'm using Ventoy [ https://www.ventoy.net/en/isolist.html ] to hold a persistent Xubuntu on a thumb drive. However, it's possible to just copy additional installs to this thumb drive, too. Since my thumb drive is ext formatted, in my case Windows won't work, but ext isn't the default. Maybe this is something similar to what you mentioned. Ok, whatever "Arch bloat" is for, Ventoy doesn't help with maintaining an Arch install, so probably this is not similar to what you mentioned. Ventoy is available either by aur/ventoy-bin https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ventoy-bin or chaotic-aur/ventoy-bin https://aur.chaotic.cx/ The Ventoy developer is subscribed to the Arch forums, https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=133208 . Related to Ventoy the Arch Wiki isn't much of a help, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ventoy . Regards, Ralf

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Re: Arch-general Digest, Vol 4, Issue 13
by Frank LoPinto 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

Hello Dave, You can get past this by typing pacman-key --recv-keys 76A5EF9054449A5C This will refresh Pierre Schmitz's key. You can check the key id at https://pierre-schmitz.com/about/gpg-keys/pierre-packager-key/ Merry Christmas! Frank On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 12:03 AM <arch-general-request(a)lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > Send Arch-general mailing list submissions to > arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > arch-general-request(a)lists.archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > arch-general-owner(a)lists.archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Arch-general digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. pacstrap complaining about corrupt package (David N Murray) > 2. Re: pacstrap complaining about corrupt package (Mike Yuan) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David N Murray <dmurray(a)jsbsystems.com> > To: arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 00:12:32 -0500 > Subject: pacstrap complaining about corrupt package > > Hi all, > > Trying to install Arch on a new birthday/Christmas present. I'm manually copying this (abbreviated) because I can't figure out how to get the text off the new box: > > # pacstrap /mnt linux linux-firmware base btrfs-progs intel-ucode nano iw > [snipped the package list and stuff] > :: Retrieving packages... > openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64 ... > (126/126) checking keys in keyring > (126/126) checking package integrity > error: openssl: signature from "Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.org> <pierre(a)archlinux.org>" is marginal trust > :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). > [failure messages] > > Things I've tried/checked: > * clock on the new box has correct time > * pacman -Syu from another machine. That pulled down a new archlinux-keyring and openssl-3.0.7-4 and it ran fine > * new machine has same mirrorlist that worked with the pacman -Syu > * commented out mirrorlist entries one-at-a-time to see if it was one mirror problem. 5 servers all give the same results. > > The other 125 packages that were downloaded all passed the integrity check (I think). > > Any suggestions? > > TIA, > Dave Murray > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike Yuan <me(a)yhndnzj.com> > To: David N Murray <dmurray(a)jsbsystems.com> > Cc: arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 13:17:14 +0800 > Subject: Re: pacstrap complaining about corrupt package > The keyring shipped in the 2022.12.01 ISO is outdated. You’ll need to > update it using `pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring` first before pacstrap-ping :) > > Hi all, >> >> Trying to install Arch on a new birthday/Christmas present. I'm manually copying this (abbreviated) because I can't figure out how to get the text off the new box: >> >> # pacstrap /mnt linux linux-firmware base btrfs-progs intel-ucode nano iw >> [snipped the package list and stuff] >> :: Retrieving packages... >> openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64 ... >> (126/126) checking keys in keyring >> (126/126) checking package integrity >> error: openssl: signature from "Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.org> <pierre(a)archlinux.org>" is marginal trust >> :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). >> [failure messages] >> >> Things I've tried/checked: >> * clock on the new box has correct time >> * pacman -Syu from another machine. That pulled down a new archlinux-keyring and openssl-3.0.7-4 and it ran fine >> * new machine has same mirrorlist that worked with the pacman -Syu >> * commented out mirrorlist entries one-at-a-time to see if it was one mirror problem. 5 servers all give the same results. >> >> The other 125 packages that were downloaded all passed the integrity check (I think). >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> TIA, >> Dave Murray >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Arch-general mailing list -- arch-general(a)lists.archlinux.org > To unsubscribe send an email to arch-general-leave(a)lists.archlinux.org >

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pacstrap complaining about corrupt package
by David N Murray 25 Dec '22

25 Dec '22

Hi all, Trying to install Arch on a new birthday/Christmas present. I'm manually copying this (abbreviated) because I can't figure out how to get the text off the new box: # pacstrap /mnt linux linux-firmware base btrfs-progs intel-ucode nano iw [snipped the package list and stuff] :: Retrieving packages... openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64 ... (126/126) checking keys in keyring (126/126) checking package integrity error: openssl: signature from "Pierre Schmitz<pierre(a)archlinux.org>" is marginal trust :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/openssl-3.0.7-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). [failure messages] Things I've tried/checked: * clock on the new box has correct time * pacman -Syu from another machine. That pulled down a new archlinux-keyring and openssl-3.0.7-4 and it ran fine * new machine has same mirrorlist that worked with the pacman -Syu * commented out mirrorlist entries one-at-a-time to see if it was one mirror problem. 5 servers all give the same results. The other 125 packages that were downloaded all passed the integrity check (I think). Any suggestions? TIA, Dave Murray

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Re: RFC - thoughts about Arch and init freedom? (proposal for comments on arch-general)
by David C. Rankin 20 Dec '22

20 Dec '22

On 12/16/22 15:46, Andreas Radke wrote: > I suggest to fix this lack of init choice/alternative. I'd like to > implement it into the official Arch Linux repos allowing to choose > some different init replacement. We can either just add a 2nd init > system in the most simple way or allow real init-freedom[3] offering > full choice and leave it up to be further filled by the community. I remember the discussions well. Most of which took place on the arch-general list at the time. It may be helpful to take feedback from the arch-general list, at least to get feedback on the current community thoughts on the matter. For me, I think it is a great idea Andreas. While for desktop use systemd has captured a majority of the distros -- and no complaints, the take-it-or-leave-it if you want Arch seems a bit restrictive. While the change from init-scripts to systemd was uncomfortable at the time, the transition was done well. That said, the point made about providing an alternative init to help with implementation on new architectures is well-taken. While systemd does provide a great deal of functionality, it also fairly heavy. Keeping systemd as a default while providing an alternative init for those that would benefit from -- or just like to use -- an alternative init sounds like a solid way to go. Essentially giving Arch the best of both worlds. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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