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[arch-general] Is Voting Effective?
by Taylor Hornby 13 Apr '14

13 Apr '14

The main mechanism for moving packages from the AUR into the official repositories seems to be the "Vote for this package" mechanism. Ideally, all packages would just be in the official repositories, and there'd be no AUR. Obviously we don't have the resources for that, so there needs to be some mechanism for prioritizing packages. Because you have to register an account to vote (and I didn't even *know* about it until today), the voting mechanism is not effective at filtering out the important packages from the sea of mostly-irrelevant obscure packages, and it's certainly not a good indicator for package quality. This means important packages are getting left behind in the AUR even when all other Linux distributions include them in their official repositories. Ultimately, relying on a vote-based popularity measurement too much is hurting -- or is going to hurt -- Arch Linux. Take for example tahoe-lafs and tripwire, with 32 and 13 votes respectively. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tahoe-lafs/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tripwire/ These are extremely important tools. And, while they may not be popular as measured by the voting system, they are widely used, and both are included in Debian's official repositories. Instead of being able to quickly and easily install signed binaries with `pacman -S`, a security-conscious user wanting one of these tools has to manually inspect the PKGBUILDs for the packages themselves and many of their dependencies to make sure that they're not malicious. And after they do all that, they still have to trust insecure connections and MD5 checksums. There needs to be an official channel for hearing reasoned arguments on why a package should or should not be included in the real repositories, and the unscientific vote count should come second. Is there such a thing? Thanks for reading, -- Taylor Hornby

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[arch-general] cyrus-sasl problems
by Łukasz Michalski 12 Apr '14

12 Apr '14

Hi, Today I upgraded arch and have problems with sasl 2.1.26: [root@black etc]# sasldblistusers2 -f /etc/sasldb2.broken listusers failed I can dump and recreate this file with db_dump and db_load, but even after that sasldblistuser2 and saslpasswd refuse to use this file. I can use sasl 2.1.15 from other distro read and update this file, but on all my arch distros sasl 2.1.26 refuses to read it. I can create plain new file with saslpasswd and it works correctly. Anyone had similar problems? Regards, Łukasz

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[arch-general] Bug NetworkManager when restart NetworkManager service
by Maykel Franco 12 Apr '14

12 Apr '14

Hi, I change for example dns in networkmanager, when restart NetworkManager , "systemctl restart NetworkManager" the network not works... [maykel@maykel-arch ~]$ sudo systemctl status NetworkManager ● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since mar 2014-04-08 12:24:13 CEST; 19s ago Main PID: 3082 (NetworkManager) CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager.service ├─1223 /usr/bin/dhcpcd -B -K -L -G -c /usr/lib/networkmanager/nm-dhcp-client.action enp4s0f2 └─3082 /usr/bin/NetworkManager --no-daemon abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> (enp4s0f2): DHCPv4 client pid 3093 exited with status 1 abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> Activation (enp4s0f2) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled... abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> Activation (enp4s0f2) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started... abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> (enp4s0f2): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5] abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> NetworkManager state is now DISCONNECTED abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> Marking connection 'MO2O' invalid. abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <warn> Activation (enp4s0f2) failed for connection 'MO2O' abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> Activation (enp4s0f2) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete. abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> (enp4s0f2): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0] abr 08 12:24:22 maykel-arch NetworkManager[3082]: <info> (enp4s0f2): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0] I have reboot my computer for network on again. Is a bug networkmanager? The version is: maykel-arch /home/maykel # NetworkManager --version 0.9.8.8 Thanks in advanced.

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Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] GHC 7.8.1 packaging decisions for Arch Linux
by Thomas Dziedzic 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Jeremy Audet <ichimonji10(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Doesn't every language with its own package manager have this problem? > For example, Python. Is there a good solution? Users knowing about this > issue and making their own decisions is the current solution on every > distro I'm familiar with. > > Aye. There are some upshots to allowing users to install software via > either the system package manager or a language-specific one, instead of > forcing them down a single path. For example, with ruby: tools such as > bundler, rbenv and rvm provide users with some awesome capabilities, such > as being able to install multiple versions of Ruby and multiple versions of > gems, either system-wide, in a user's home directory or in a custom > directory. That's very useful, and the user should have that option - but > if the user wants a simpler, more straightforward option, they can use > `gem` or `pacman`. (And the choice between gem and pacman has its own > tradeoffs.) > > Couldn't the same be said of Haskell packages? Using pacman to manage > haskell packages provides some niceties, such as automatic updates > (whenever -Syu is performed), whereas cabal-install provides its own > niceties, such as access to numerous packages. So... is there anything > wrong with letting the user choose the tool that suits their needs? > I guess I should modify my wording for Change 2 to be: "Change 2: Make a news item stating that either cabal-install or pacman packages are now the recommended way to install haskell packages. Not both in one system."

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[arch-general] svntogit stuck
by Armin K. 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

In case some of the people responsible for it are reading this: svn2git is stuck for 2 days without any changes although the packages are being upgraded. I can't even examine changes for packages through al.o/packages anymore. -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [aur-general] GHC 7.8.1 packaging decisions for Arch Linux
by Thomas Dziedzic 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > Now that aside is finished, what is the deal with that arch-haskell > group? Is it still going? Would they want to provide packages > officially instead? I wouldn't actually be opposed to this idea. A lot of effort is duplicated with regards to Archlinux's official haskell packages and Arch-Haskell's packages. We could try to work out something between the existing haskell package maintainers and arch-haskell maintainers. It might lead to a possibly better overall haskell experience on archlinux. Arch-haskell could maintain official haskell packages using pacman. I (and anyone interested) could support haskell package installation using the cabal-install route.

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[arch-general] My Apache Sever Compromised?
by Jameson 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

I'm seeing some very strange behavior from my Apache web server, and I'm afraid it may have been compromised. Every time I start it, my router is saturated with the maximum number of connections it can handle, and my access_log starts filling with lines like: 208.115.242.252 - - [29/Mar/2014:22:04:54 -0400] "GET http://ads.yahoo.com/st?ad_type=iframe&ad_size=300x250&section=3730175&pub_… HTTP/1.0" 200 5463 74.63.219.228 - - [29/Mar/2014:22:04:54 -0400] "GET http://ads.yahoo.com/st?ad_type=iframe&ad_size=728x90&section=5101980&pub_u… HTTP/1.0" 200 5432 198.100.123.53 - - [29/Mar/2014:22:04:54 -0400] "GET http://www.superficialgirl.com/miss/160x600.php HTTP/1.0" 200 374 198.100.121.56 - - [29/Mar/2014:22:04:53 -0400] "GET http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/14/0d/e5/b4/140de5b4c2f26dd… HTTP/1.0" 200 20393 199.83.93.35 - - [29/Mar/2014:22:04:54 -0400] "GET http://ro2.biz/pixel.png HTTP/1.0" 200 151 172.246.127.211 - - [29/Mar/2014:22:04:54 -0400] "GET http://ads.yahoo.com/imp?Z=300x250&s=5507180&_salt=2285596723&B=12&m=2&H=ht… I don't serve any adds from this server. It's just a few webapps that I use personally. Has anyone seen anything like this before? Any advice? Thanks, =-Jameson

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[arch-general] Error in chrome when I moved sidebar
by Maykel Franco 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Hi, I get this lines in chrome when I moved sidebar the right: http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14kbeyw&s=8#.Ux8-xpDuKnk Can I help me please? Is a bug the chrome? Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] X11vnc in xbmc archlinux
by Maykel Franco 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Hi, I configured the archlinux + xbmc. I will like remote control xbmc with x11vnc from other machine. Now, I control the xbmc with xbmc remote from android. And also start x11vnc when archlinux boot... Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] Error when I try update pacman -Syu
by Maykel Franco 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

I have this error when I like update all system: root@arch-maykel /home/maykel/ # LANG=C pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date multilib is up to date archlinuxfr is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... :: jre7-openjdk and jre7 are in conflict (java-runtime). Remove jre7? [y/N] error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: jre7-openjdk and jre7 are in conflict (java-runtime=7) I find the solution in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=154154 but not worked for me: root@arch-maykel /home/maykel/ # LANG=G yaourt -Rdd jre7-openjdk error: target not found: jre7-openjd Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] Yakuake not expand with shorcut
by Maykel Franco 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Hi, I like very much yakuake. I like expand the terminal to right, left, up, down with shourcut , but not found when assign the keys. Attach photo. http://imgur.com/a/sf4it - Grow terminal to the left, to the right, to the top...not found with keys... Why? I don't now why. Yakuake in gentoo works very well to expand the terminal. Yakuake depend the konsole. Sorry for my english. Thanks in advanced.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [aur-general] GHC 7.8.1 packaging decisions for Arch Linux
by Daniel Micay 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

On 09/04/14 11:12 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 10/04/14 12:58, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Magnus Therning <magnus(a)therning.org>wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm guessing this means cabal-install now is the only package outside >>>> of [community] that uses ghc to build. Is that right? >>>> >> That would be correct. >> >> >>>> Is the plan then that any future tools (i.e. non-libraries) >>>> implemented in Haskell would go into [community]? >> >> This would also be correct. I believe that most people who use packages in >> our supported repos don't actually use the haskell libraries themselves, >> but rather the tools that depend on them. (e.g. xmonad) >> I am not against keeping these tools around and their dependencies if >> someone wants to maintain them, but I personally have no interest in >> maintaining them myself. > > I am fine with this decision. Although I think it better to use a > system package manager if at all possible, I do recognise that this > takes man power that we do not have for haskell. People still have the > option of using the AUR over cabal-install if they want to use the > package manager (or system wide installs - is cabal-install a per user > thing?) > > <aside> > In my ideal situation, we would have a team of people for each of the > "major" programming languages who would determine packaging policy and > provide packages for many of the libraries for that language. Sort of > like how we have multiple people who deal with KDE and GNOME updates. > With a team based setup, it would be easier to have more junior people > brought on to help. > </aside> > > Now that aside is finished, what is the deal with that arch-haskell > group? Is it still going? Would they want to provide packages > officially instead? It's definitely still active. They seem to have all the necessary automation worked out. AFAICT they do an automated conversion from the cabal files and maintain a set of patches for adding external dependencies, etc. https://github.com/archhaskell

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[arch-general] Inconsistencies with cc and c++ binaries
by Jordan Horwich 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

The /usr/bin/cc executable is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc whereas the /usr/bin/c++ executable appears to be a hardlink to /usr/bin/g++. Why are the links different types? Wouldn't it be more clear to make both symbolic links or both hard links? -- Jordan

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[arch-general] Linux 3.14-4 to [core]
by Thomas Bächler 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

I am currently uploading Linux 3.14-4 to [testing]. Once signoffs are done, I am planning to move this version to [core]. I'll also move util-linux and coreutils with it. There were no major new bugs I can remember that we didn't fix, so things should be pretty smooth.

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[arch-general] Heartbleed-bug in OpenSSL 1.0.1 up to 1.0.1f
by Neal Oakey 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

Hi, there is an Bug(1) in OpenSSL 1.0.1 and as far as I'm informed this has only been patched in 1.0.1g. Many other Distributions have build there own patch, what is with us? Currently we have "1.0.1.f-2" which is effected as far as I can know. Greetings Neal 1) (sry, German) http://www.golem.de/news/sicherheitsluecke-keys-auslesen-mit-openssl-1404-1…

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[arch-general] Problem cups printing with CANON-LBP7750cdn
by Maykel Franco 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

Hi, I configurated printer with cups web interface. Check printer with command line in arch: maykel-arch /home/maykel/Descargas :( # lpinfo -v file cups-pdf:/ network lpd network https network http network socket network ipps network ipp network smb network socket://10.1.0.5 maykel-arch /home/maykel/Descargas :( # lpinfo -m | grep -i canon | grep 7750 lsb/usr/canon/cel-lbp7750c-pcl-en.ppd.gz Canon LBP7750C PCL lsb/usr/canon/cel-lbp7750c-ps-en.ppd.gz Canon LBP7750C PS lsb/usr/canon/cel-lbp7750c-pxl-en.ppd.gz Canon LBP7750C PXL CNCUPSLBP7750CZK.ppd Canon LBP7750C/5460 UFR II ver.2.8 *** USED lsb/usr/CNCUPSLBP7750CZK.ppd Canon LBP7750C/5460 UFR II ver.2.8 maykel-arch /home/maykel/Descargas # LC_ALL=C lpstat -s system default destination: Canon-LBP7750C-5460 device for Canon-LBP7750C-5460: socket://10.1.0.5:9100 maykel-arch /home/maykel/Descargas # LANG=C lpstat -p Canon-LBP7750C-5460 printer Canon-LBP7750C-5460 is idle. enabled since Wed Apr 9 13:50:55 2014 Waiting finished printer The problem is when I go to the printing, the file not printing but the document appear in the queue printer...And in my http://localhost:631 appear the document in progress but never printer... My printer has web administracion and I see the document in queue. Can I help me please? Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] GIMP odd behaviour - left-click not registering?
by Oon-Ee Ng 08 Apr '14

08 Apr '14

Got this odd behaviour today, and I use GIMP fairly frequently so this only turned up in the past 3-4 days I think. I can't seem to left-click in the image itself (left-clicking on menus registers), so I can't, for example, paint anything. Is this specific to my machine, or can someone else confirm? I'm running 64-bit with [testing] and awesomewm (through gdm). FWIW here's my pacman.log for the time period, nothing stands out for me - http://pastebin.com/H3X82TY2

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[arch-general] systemd-tmpfiles doesn't clean build root from /tmp
by Lukas Jirkovsky 08 Apr '14

08 Apr '14

Hey guys, I've started using /tmp for building packages using extra-x86_64-build (and similar). However, I've a problem with the /tmp/extra-x86_64 not being cleaned on boot by systemd-tmpclean. I have the following in /etc/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf: # Clear tmp directories separately, to make them easier to override d /tmp 1777 root root 0d d /var/tmp 1777 root root 0d # Exclude namespace mountpoints created with PrivateTmp=yes x /tmp/systemd-private-* x /var/tmp/systemd-private-* X /tmp/systemd-private-*/tmp X /var/tmp/systemd-private-*/tmp the problem is that while it seems /tmp gets cleaned to some extent, /tmp/extra-x86_64/ is still there. What is worse, the root is not usable either: ==> ERROR: '/tmp/extra-x86_64/root' does not appear to be a Arch chroot. Any ideas?

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[arch-general] Perl Padre ERROR
by Zuyi Hu 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

hello, everyone! I have built padre by cpan recently, but when running "build test" ,it stoped by some errors,so I force install it, but it can't run ! can't anyone know about this,or anyone can provide perl-padre aur package,thanks hzy@arch:~ 01:30:34 $ padre Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/auto/Wx/Scintilla/Scintilla.so' for module Wx::Scintilla: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/auto/Wx/Scintilla/ libwx_gtk2u_scintilla-2.8.12.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI14wxEventFunctor at /usr/share/perl5/core_perl/XSLoader.pm line 68. at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/Wx/Scintilla.pm line 32. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Padre/Wx/Theme.pm line 15. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Padre/Wx/Theme.pm line 15. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Padre/Wx/Main.pm line 50. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Padre/Wx/Main.pm line 50. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Padre/Wx/App.pm line 58. Perl exited with active threads: 1 running and unjoined 0 finished and unjoined 0 running and detached

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[arch-general] Non-root X on Arch Linux
by Mark Lee 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Salutations, Since Fedora 21 is working on dropping X root rights via systemd-logind. Does Arch intend to follow? From, Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlNA23AACgkQZ/Z80n6+J/bnlQD+KXmYtkAySaraC+omwJb1x95q QUud8Ojbkv/zCg/06FsA/iNsJTBoU2A4KspFZv2LnUuinKxcC5VOy64xpgRJVkV4 =GXC+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] [wiki cleanup] Links to non-existent packages
by Jakub Klinkovský 05 Apr '14

05 Apr '14

Hello all, as of today, there are exactly 714 invalid uses (413 unique) of Template:AUR [1] or Template:Pkg [2] on the wiki, spread across 398 pages. The complete list is on [3]. I will try to go through it and update the links, but this is not a one-man job, so I would really appreciate some help. Please remember to strike/remove the items from the list to save others' time. The list includes some trivial mistakes (e.g. using package name with version), but in most cases it will involve updating other content of the page. Also it may be possible that there is a direct replacement for some packages (e.g. the result of merging/renaming). [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Template:AUR [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Template:Pkg [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Lahwaacz.bot/Report_2014-04-05 Regards, -- jlk

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[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Moving KDE3 and Gtk1 from [extra]
by Alessandro Doro 05 Apr '14

05 Apr '14

> Here are the packages that depends on gtk (maintained by Eric Bélanger): > > kiwi, Federico Cinelli > Kiwi provides enhanced PyGTK widgets; it definitely doesn't require gtk1.

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[arch-general] Request: PKGBUILD removal of (sysdig|sysdig-git)
by Borja 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Hi chaps! I would like to requestthe removal the one of this two PKGBUILD: - sysdig - sysdig-git I've comitted both of them by mistake. I would say that maybe it's better to keep sysdig? Or maybe guys you think it's better to keep sysdig-git just in case the people from Draios Inc. will add support to Arch to their installer? Cheers! ================================================================================= GPG key ID 4CA6E08B -- https://www.libcrack.so/

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[arch-general] Failed to start umbrello in KDE
by Edy Santosa Putra 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Hello, When I start umbrello from the desktop it just shows the bouncy cursor for a moment then nothing happens, from the command line it shows the following. $ umbrello umbrello(4508)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "edit_undo" with KXMLGUIFactory! umbrello(4508)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "edit_redo" with KXMLGUIFactory! umbrello(4508) UMLListView::findView: could not find "class diagram" in UMLListViewItem: "Logical View", type="lvt_Logical_View", id="Logical View", children=1 umbrello(4508) UMLListView::findView: could not find "class diagram" in UMLListViewItem: "Logical View", type="lvt_Logical_View", id="Logical View", children=1 I've tried to reinstall it from kdesdk-umbrello package, but it didn't do anything. Any suggestions ?

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[arch-general] NVIDIA Corporation GF108GLM [NVS 5200M]
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Hi all, I have a Dell Latitude E6430 shipped with this Nvidia device: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108GLM [NVS 5200M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Device 1534 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44 Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at e000 [size=128] Expansion ROM at f6000000 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?> Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?> Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?> Kernel driver in use: nouveau My Laptop has VGA and HDMI output, both are used inorder to get a triple display system: on board screen + one on VGA, one on HDMI. Do you have special recommandation on which driver to install and any tip relative to that hardware? Note: Currently using Fedora it works quite well, but I really want to give a try to ARch and want to get my screens as soon as possible :-) Thanks for your help.

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[arch-general] error: GPGME error: Invalid crypto engine
by Carsten Mattner 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

Does someone else have problems upgrading with testing enabled since yesterday? Checked the mailing list and there's not warning that testing is broken. :: Synchronizing package databases... testing is up to date core is up to date extra is up to date community-testing is up to date community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... warning: bash: local (4.3.008-1) is newer than core (4.3-3) warning: readline: local (6.3.003-1) is newer than core (6.3-3) resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (1): linux-3.14-3 Total Installed Size: 69.37 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 0.00 MiB :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] (1/1) checking keys in keyring [...] 100% error: GPGME error: Invalid crypto engine (1/1) checking package integrity [...] 100% error: GPGME error: Invalid crypto engine error: linux: missing required signature :: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/linux-3.14-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] Same problem if I try to downgrade readline and bash :: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/readline-6.3-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] n error: bash: missing required signature :: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/bash-4.3-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)).

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[arch-general] Trimming down our default kernel configuration
by Thomas Bächler 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Hello all, it won't be too long until 3.14 is out and I want to address a topic that has been bugging me for a while. Our kernel includes everything and the kitchensink. I have no problem with delivering drivers that can be built modular, but there are other things that have an unknown impact on everyone. I want to trim our kernel down to what we actually support. 1) Once we agreed to disable one LSM, everyone else said "we can enable LSM XYZ, too". And so we did. Right now, we enable SELinux, SMACK, Tomoyo, AppArmor and Yama, although we don't support the userspace for any of those. I propose to drop all of them. 2) We patch our kernel to allow enabling CHECKPOINT_RESTORE without enabling CONFIG_EXPERT. I have no idea what the impact of this option is, other than that it was requested in order to support some tool that can freeze and save single processes resume them later. I am generally sceptical towards options that require CONFIG_EXPERT, so I propose dropping this one, too. 3) We enable tons of debug options in the "Kernel Hacking" section, many of which have a "small performance impact". I'd like to get rid of those that we don't need (I didn't go through all of them yet). What I'd like is a discussion where people suggest more things that could or should be dropped, and tell me what is absolutely needed and why. I hope that such a discussion makes it clearer to me how I should proceed. Regards Thomas

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[arch-general] Apache 2.4 - Pierre was right, a post on the front page is needed
by David C. Rankin 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

All, The upgrade to apache 2.4 can present a real challenge for those relying on mod_php, mod_ssl and vhosts. On 2/27 on Arch-dev, Pierre suggested: "Anyway, I suggest in the end we should post an announcement on the front page." He was right. Having a few moments today to bring a production server up to date, I checked www.archlinux.org for any current warnings about breakage or that user interaction would be required for update. Finding none, I updated, and on reboot Apache 2.4 was dead in the water. WTF? Searching I find the mpm_prefork issue, since my groupware (eGroupWare) relies on mod_php. The mpm_prefork change seemed simple enough, but the server continued to fail to start. The Order deny,allow statements were rejected, numerous modules had been added/removed/renamed and httpd-ssl.conf and httpd-vhosts.conf configs failed. An hour later, after config rewrites, httpd came back to life, but will require additional study to confirm the new module mix and groupware operation. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a complaint, you guys do a fantastic job keeping arch on current release packages, but when updates to critical server applications will break existing configurations, or require user interaction, there should be a note on the front page of www.archlinux.org. This is simply to allow admins/users to adequately schedule time for an update requiring intervention when it will differ from the standard update/reboot scenario. What server packages should be considered critical? Any of the core server apps (web: apache/php, mail, auth routines, ssl/tls, etc), that will render a required part of a typical business server broken, it should be flagged. Thanks for the hard work, and so far, the sky hasn't fallen since the apache 2.4 update. Just don't get rid of mod_php, mod_fastcgi + php-fpm isn't a drop in replacement in all cases. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] pacman-key complaining, but what to do about it?
by Magnus Therning 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

On a newly set up system I've added the [haskell-core] repo [1], but get stuck with the following message from `pacman`: ~~~~ % sudo pacman -Syy error: haskell-testing: signature from "ArchHaskell (Magnus Therning) <magnus(a)therning.org>" is invalid :: Synchronising package databases... core 108.2 KiB 1335K/s 00:00 [##############################################] 100% haskell-testing.sig 96.0 B 0.00B/s 00:00 [##############################################] 100% error: haskell-testing: signature from "ArchHaskell (Magnus Therning) <magnus(a)therning.org>" is invalid error: failed to update haskell-testing (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature)) extra 1565.7 KiB 1947K/s 00:01 [##############################################] 100% community 2.1 MiB 1735K/s 00:01 [##############################################] 100% multilib 115.3 KiB 1746K/s 00:00 [##############################################] 100% error: database 'haskell-testing' is not valid (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature)) ~~~~ I've read [2] and verified (to the best of my ability) that I have correct time settings. I've also tried resetting the keys, but that doesn't improve the situation either. What else could it be? How do I find out? What can I do about it? /M [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Haskell_package_guidelines [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman-key#Troubleshooting -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Linux 3.14 in [testing]
by Genes Lists 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

On 04/03/2014 04:10 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 03.04.2014 05:24, schrieb Evangelos Foutras: ... >> >> Has anyone else experienced hangs in Firefox with the latest kernel? > > None that I can remember. > > I use firefox only lightly - however I too have not noticed any problems with 3.14 from rc1 through release.

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[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] CAcert dropped from certificate bundle
by Neal Oakey 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

Hi all, because I can't send this to the arch-dev-public mailing list I will send this here: In my opinion, only because Debian drops the support for something this doesn't mean that we should do the same. And if you look at the Bugreport you will notice that the Information on which Debian is basing their argumentation is old. For more current information you can see: (sorry I know it's on German) http://www.heise.de/netze/meldung/CAcert-reagiert-auf-Zertifikatsrauswurf-2… Or http://wiki.cacert.org/Roots/EscrowAndRecovery/NRE which isn't so detailed, but should be up to date. Greetings, Neal > Hi all, > > Debian has decided to drop the root certificate of CAcert.org they used > to ship with their ca-certificates package. As our pacakge is based on > Debian's the latest ca-certficates package in [testing] also lack the > CAcert certificate. > > If we intent to keep it that way we should also remove the patch from > our nss package: > https://projects.archlinux.de/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/add_spi+cace… > > The Debian bug report can be found at > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718434 > > I added the certs to our bundles in 2009. Unfortunately there is no > visible progress regarding their inclusion in browsers from Mozilla, > Google and Microsoft. > > Realistically I cannot vouch for any of the CAs we ship. That's one > reason why we push that responsibility upstream to e.g. the Debian > project or Mozilla. > > What do you think? Imho we should keep follow Debian here. Other > solutions would be to patch it back in or ship a separate optional > package; though that might be impossible for nss. > > Greetings, > > Pierre > > -- > Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com <https://pierre-schmitz.com/> >

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] CAcert dropped from certificate bundle
by Neal Oakey 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

Hi, here you have some more detailed informations (see quote). Greetings, Neal Am 02.04.2014 23:40, schrieb Benny Baumann: > Hi, > > Am 02.04.2014 18:33, schrieb Neal Oakey: >> mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards >> Neal Thomas Oakey >> CAcert Assurer, CAcert Event Organisation >> CAcert.org - Free Certificates >> E-Mail: neal(a)cacert.org >> >> Am 02.04.2014 17:55, schrieb Daniel Micay: >>> On 02/04/14 11:31 AM, Neal Oakey wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> well until now all of this wasn't a problem, so why has it now become one? >>> It's becoming clearer that CAcert isn't going to be passing a third >>> party audit any time soon. Our only view into it is the open-source code > We are lacking man-power to work on solving the issues found by the > currently running audit. Details at > https://blog.cacert.org/2014/03/cacert-appoints-internal-auditor/ >>> they've made available, and messy wiki documentation. The quality of the > Anybody is free to help clean it up ... >>> code is not exactly comforting - whoever wrote most of it didn't seem to >>> be aware of prepared statements... > Which were not available when most of the code was written. And changing > the code now - which is being worked on (cf. bug #1260) will take time > and draw manpower from other places. >>>> And well if you have a look at startssl, well they may be offering free >>>> certs but only single domain and just use the plain "things". >>>> >>>> * It doesn't allow commercial usage >>>> * "only" valid for 1 year >>> A CAcert certificate isn't trusted in most major browsers or operating >>> systems, regardless of whether Arch ships it. That's a bigger > StartSSL isn't any safer just because most browsers ship them. And given > their history (3 days from founding to entering the browser stores - > you're kidding me, right)? > > And based on their crypto profile on the website (what their server > offers) you won't gain any confidence either. >>> inconvenience and makes it quite useless for commercial usage. This > Oh, funny. I know first hand that Allianz insurance and Edigas > consortium accept CAcert as advanced signatures and thus for legally > signing your business mails. Not to mention all the other businesses > using CAcert: > https://blog.cacert.org/2013/07/natural-gas-industry-accepts-cacert-gas-ind… > http://rootca.allianz.com/en/secumail_calist.htm > http://wiki.cacert.org/OrganisationAssurance/OrganisationList?highlight=%28… > > Doesn't look like it for me ... ;-) >>> isn't the only example of a free TLS certificate anyway. > Free beer vs. free speech ... >>>> * located in Israel (don't know if this should be good or bad) >>> CAcert is located in Australia. Both are US allies and cooperate with US >>> spying, if your point has something to do with the NSA. It's not like >>> Australia doesn't have an active spy agency. > Funny. Isn't like Israel is any safer from spying. Not to mention the US > where Verisign, GoDaddy, GeoTrust, ... and many other big players reside. > > Furthermore you should note that there is a motion which was passed > recently by CAcert Inc.'s board to move the incorperation to another > country. Which doesn't change the fact that even now the root keys are > neither in the US nor in Australia - both information which CAN be found > on the CAcert wiki: > http://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2… > And the whereabouts of the keys can be found by looking at the > documentation of the infrastructure systems. >>>> There maybe still quite a few things that have to be worked on at CAcert >>>> but still I currently would say, >>>> that I rather trust CAcert signed certs than any other. > Which I currently do on all my systems; all other certificates are handled TOFU. > >>> You're free to add it if you trust them. Debian and Mozilla don't trust >>> them, and Pierre has made it clear that he's not in a position to vouch >>> for them either. > Debian removed them based on arguments sufficient to clear half of the > Mozilla store. Not to mention that the "there might be bugs in their > software" argument would cause the Mozilla store to be empty - some > outcome I'd really prefer to see as it'd be the ONLY honest one. >>>> I mean look at all this fuckup that these firms are doing: >>>> >>>> ... some have been removed already: >>>> >>>> * Revoking Trust in one ANSSI Certificate (*.google.com) >>>> * Revoking Trust in Two TurkTrust Certificates (*.google.com) >>>> * Revoking Trust in DigiCert Sdn. Bhd Intermediate Certificate >>>> Authority (week certs) >>>> * Fraudulent *.google.com Certificate ... => DigiNotar Removal Follow Up >>>> * Firefox Blocking Fraudulent Certificates ... => Comodo Certificate >>>> Issue -- Follow Up >>>> >>>> ... but I still see many problems: >>>> >>>> * Chromium still has (all|many) of the cert, which I listed above >>>> * still including many 1024 bit keys! (*1) >>>> * to many CAs have issued other RootCA (like for e.g.: Tekecom > DFN > >>>> every fucking university in Germany (*2)) >>>> * and how far we still can trust CAs from America, where the NSA seams >>>> to be fiddling around in the security of all important firms, I >>>> can't really say >>> The US government is far from the only country with spy agencies. The CA >>> system won't protect you from national governments, but it does a pretty >>> good job providing protection from other entities. A certificate >>> authority like CAcert without even a minimum level of security or >>> auditing in place is a liability when it comes to this. > Having a set of CAs known for having issued fake certificates aren't > much better either - even IF they happen to have found somebody signing > them credibility on some piece of paper. >>> Chromium no longer relies on the CA system for Google domains at all, it >>> simply pins the certificates instead. See > Which simply doesn't scale. >>> http://www.certificate-transparency.org/ for an example of the work >>> that's been done on to the CA system. It's a technical solution with >>> Google's political capital behind it. A CA not implementing it will have >>> EV (shiny green bar) revoked, and this happens to be a major source of >>> revenue for them. > $$$ > > And idea is, that CAcert will be implementing something like this too. > Given enough manpower things would be drastically faster though. >>>> *1: >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Digital_Signature_Trust_Co._Global_CA_1.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Digital_Signature_Trust_Co._Global_CA_3.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Equifax_Secure_CA.crt: 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Equifax_Secure_eBusiness_CA_1.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Equifax_Secure_Global_eBusiness_CA.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/NetLock_Business_=Class_B=_Root.crt: 1024 >>>>> bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/NetLock_Express_=Class_C=_Root.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Thawte_Premium_Server_CA.crt: 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Thawte_Server_CA.crt: 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_1_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_1_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G2.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_2_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G2.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_3_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_2.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_3_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_3_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority_-_G2.crt: >>>>> 1024 bit >>>> *2: >>>> if you ask me, this is just waiting for miss usage, as every university >>>> (or person which could get access to there CAs) in Germany could issue a >>>> cert for [your-bank.com] >>> Trusting CAcert in addition to these certificate authorities will not >>> improve the situation. At least these certificate authorities are >>> competent enough to pass third party audits. > Given how most IT departments in German universities are chronically > under-funded I doubt signing you some certificate would cost too much > ... And be it that on of the 64k SANs on the CSR accidentially works for > some banking website ... how unfortunate. Most IT departments lack the > practicl knowledge of how to securely operate a CA and given the high > number of apprentices I really doubt you have to search for too long to > get such a CSR signed. > > Regards, > BenBE. >

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[arch-general] Using timers instead of cron jobs
by Leonid Isaev 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

Hi, On a current [testing] installation, there are several timer symlinks in /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants (shipped with logrotate, man-db, etc.). What is the reason for choosing multi-user.target instead of timers.target? Thanks, -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] Linux 3.14: Kenel panic in radeon code
by Mohammad_AlSaleh 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

Hello. testing/linux-3.14-1 x86-64 The kernel panicked while starting X. The errors dumped pointed to the radeon module. Is anyone else seeing this regression?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Linux 3.14 in [testing]
by Genes Lists 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

On 04/01/2014 06:44 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Okay, pushed everything to [testing] and [community-testing]. This may just be a mirror sync issue but I am seeing this: pacman -Syu ... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: bbswitch: requires linux<3.14 :: virtualbox-guest-modules: requires linux<3.14 :: virtualbox-host-modules: requires linux<3.14 gene

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[arch-general] What's with F# and mono?
by Magnus Therning 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

I'm just starting to dip my toes in the mono waters. Slightly prompted by my current situation at work. In particular I'm interested in F#, but I'm finding the whole situation around mono/monodevelop + F# a bit confusing. 1. There are indications online that mono ships with F# [^1][^2]. But the mono package in Arch doesn't include F#. Looking at the sources used to build the mono package there is no F# in sight. Was it ever there? 2. The package on AUR[^3] for fsharp is rather outdated. Not such a big problem, the building received a lot of TLC so the package is extremely simple to bring up-to-date. 3. Is there an F# add-in for monodevelop? There seems to have been one back in 2010, but it's not distributed any more, [^4]. However, other places say there is an add-in available, [^5] (however, downloading fails). So, can anyone help me get a clearer picture of F# on mono (and ArchLinux)? /M [^1]: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.html - talking of plans to include F# in mono. [^2]: http://is.gd/cNC5xb- - "F# is included in the standard Mono release, but it's still missing from the MonoDevelop IDE." [^3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fsharp/ [^4]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- - bug on F# add-in missing, closed for MD 2.4, the last comment suggests it'd be re-opened [^5]: http://is.gd/YndnsA- which links to http://addins.monodevelop.com/Project/Index/48 -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus The results point out the fragility of programmer expertise: advanced programmers have strong expectations about what programs should look like, and when those expectations are violated--in seemingly innocuous ways--their performance drops drastically. -- Elliot Soloway and Kate Ehrlich

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[arch-general] package ncurses lacks c++ support
by lx 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

In core/ncurses, we have c++ wrapper header files like cursesw.h, but the corresponding library was not included. Actually, gnu ncurses itself only builds a static "libncurses++.a". Is there any need to do some extra work to add a libncurses++.so to the package?

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[arch-general] Printable wiki pages not working
by Jerome Leclanche 30 Mar '14

30 Mar '14

?printable=yes on the wiki doesn't seem to have any effect. Example: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Kernels&printable=yes Compare: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linux&printable=yes printable pages are nice for downloading and reading offline with lynx -dump. Could this be fixed? J. Leclanche

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Re: [arch-general] display manager dvorak recognition failure
by message 29 Mar '14

29 Mar '14

On 2014-03-17 22:59, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:39:58 +0000 > From: message <letter(a)openmailbox.org> > Subject: [arch-general] display manager dvorak recognition failure > > Readers, > > Initially lxdm, gdm have been installed, but neither recognise a dvorak > keyboard. How to configure the graphical display manager so that a user > can specify the keyboard layout before to enter sign-in credentials? > > -- > digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread > How to add language options to the graphical display manager sign-in window, so that user A can sign in using qwerty and user B can select the option to use dvorak and another language?

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[arch-general] per error
by message 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

Readers, 'get_iplayer' is a program to extract media from BBC F(/tr)ash streams. After installation of the program, obtained the following error: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm in @INC (you may need to install the HTML::Entities module) (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/share/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/core_perl /usr/share/perl5/core_perl .) at ./getiplayer line 58. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./getiplayer line 58. line 58: use HTML::Entities; Tried re-installation of perl (518222 already installed) and failed. Any suggestions to solve please?

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[arch-general] Must use nomodeset to enable boot
by Anthony Campbell 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

I have a Thinkpad T42 which has been happily running Arch for many months. Its video is AMD/ATI. After a recent upgrade I started getting the dreaded blank page on boot. Googling showed a lot of discussion of this on various distros including Arch. The only solution seems to be to set nomodeset, which works, but it appears to be deprecated. It's supposed to prevent some opensource drivers from working, although so far mine does. Any comments or advice about this please? -- Anthony Campbell - ac(a)acampbell.org.uk http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

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[arch-general] GNOME Software: Status and integrable?
by Karol Babioch 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

Hi, now that GNOME 3.12 has been released and probably will hit the repos in the next couple of days/weeks, I'm wondering what the current status of "Software" is [1]? This is an application similar to an app store in the mobile world. I couldn't find it in the repos, and I wouldn't expect it to even work without some patching, because obviously it would have to be integrated into the packet management system. The only reference I could find in regards to Arch Linux was a forum thread from last year [2], which basically ended up in a mess without any real answers. On the other hand I may have missed it, because GNOME is really good in using generic terms like "Software" and "Web" to name their applications, which are not great to search for :'(. I'm not interested in another flame war about GNOME, when it hits the repos and things like that. I just want to know whether this particular application is available/works and if not what the technical hurdles would be to make it work and whether it is feasible to get it working in the near term. Arguably users of Arch Linux are expected to know how to use use the command line (including pacman) and I'm fine with that, but I wouldn't mind to be able to browse an app store, just for the fun of it ;). Best regards, Karol Babioch [1]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Software [2]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170223

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Re: [arch-general] graphical display management
by message 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

On 2014-03-25 15:59, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:15:27 +0100 > From: Guus Snijders <gsnijders(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] graphical display management > > > Ok. Could you try resetting the password for user a? > You could do this (as root) with: > passwd a > > And then try again to login to a tty. > This was successful thanks, but the dvorak keyboard layout is not recognised at the graphical sign-in prompt. The layout is recognised when a command terminal is opened within the graphical user session. > Just to be sure: you do realise that the password shown in /etc/shadow > is the encrypted password and not the literal string to type in? > (no offence). > Using 'less' to access the file, the password is visible as literal text.

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Re: [arch-general] graphical display management
by message 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

On 2014-03-25 15:59, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:49:06 +0100 > From: Jakub Klinkovsk? <j.l.k(a)gmx.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] graphical display management > >> >> Interestingly, 'su a' results in the cursor 'pwd' to be the root home >> directory and not '/home/a'. >> > > This is the expected behaviour. Just run the command 'cd', without > arguments it > will get you into the home directory, which should be '/home/a'. Or run > 'su -l a'. > I would have expected the home directory for 'root' _not_ to be accessible to other users.

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[arch-general] Configuring enabled services
by Gesh 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

Dear all, I've been rereading the old arguments on the rc.conf split. Disregarding everything discussed there, one interesting point came up during that discussion.[1] Is it possible to have some configuration file, e.g. /etc/systems/services.conf that would list all the units one wants to be enabled at boot? This would both simplify backups and reduce the magic of and dependence on systemctl. Is there any reason this can't or shouldn't be done? With best regards, Gesh [1] - http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/43459

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[arch-general] Gnome-shell Compositing for full screen applications
by Mark Lee 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Salutations, I was recently running a test of the i3 windows manager and tried dolphin-emu. To my surprise I was able to play Wii games at full speed at 1080p resolution on my i3-2105 (Intel HD 3000) rig. I'm assuming this is due no compositing in i3. With that in mind, I was wondering if there was a way to make gnome-shell disable compositing for full screen applications. Regards, Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlMziXkACgkQZ/Z80n6+J/am+AEAhbnWcpS5TVbhomZogRI3z/Hg cKUau/u6/hkYQjOBlWsA/RoVShK5GXWAMrtvsaG0a/zmUJ1W1rKuXRKkT6HO0SyU =lNLz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] browser and tty
by arnaud gaboury 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

Dear list, I decided to get rid of my mate DE and go i3. Before I am testing my settings on tty2 (Ctrl+Alt+F2) with a modify .xinitrc (exec i3). I have a weird behavior as regarding my web browser, could it be chromium or firefox. On my i3 config. I have this line: assign [instance="^chromium$"] → 1 Unfortunately, when I log in on tty2, there is no chromium being started. When I am back on tty1 (mate session), I find chromium being opened. Then, on tty2, if I start manually firefox, I can't as I am told "firefox is already running". Indeed it is but on tty1. It seems like web browsers are "attached" to my tty1. Is there any reason for this behavior? Shall I modify anything to start any web browser on tty2 ? Thank you for help.

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[arch-general] Package conflicts
by Jonathan Arnold 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

I'm having a problem with the liteide vs gocode-git packages. liteide, which is an official Pacman package, has recently started to include the /usr/bin/gocode binary, which I have been using via the AUR package gocode-git (there is also another AUR package called gocode-bin but no pacman package). So now when I try to update I get an error: error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) liteide: /usr/bin/gocode exists in filesystem This didn't seem to be right, as I'm trying to install liteide, not gocode here. So I reported the problem: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/39607 and it immediately got closed with the statement that AUR packages aren't supported so contact the maintainer of the AUR package. Well, as far as I can tell, there isn't much the maintainer of the AUR package can do if some other package is going to just put any old binary wherever it wants without saying anything about it. Shouldn't the liteide package at least say it provides 'gocode'? Or conflicts or something besides just letting pacman complain about a file that exists in the filesystem? Carrying this a bit further, how would it or should it work if I did want to keep using gocode-git, but also use liteide? -- Jonathan Arnold Webstream: http://hieronymus.soup.io If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, you need a team ~ John Wooden

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Re: [arch-general] graphical display management
by message 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

On 2014-03-23 18:13, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:06:12 -0400 > From: Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] graphical display management > > On 03/20/2014 06:50 PM, Guus Snijders wrote: >> Op 20 mrt. 2014 18:36 schreef "message" <letter(a)openmailbox.org> het >> volgende: >>> >> [ gdm ] >>> >>> After power-on, the computer >>> starts with a sign-in prompt. >>> Normal user does not work. >>> Signed in as root [...] >> >> Ok, now we're getting somewhere. >> When the logon as user "does not work", do you get an error message? >> error: 'login incorrect'. As root, enter the command 'su a' and not prompted for a password. 'less /etc/shadow' shows the password for the user. Interestingly, 'su a' results in the cursor 'pwd' to be the root home directory and not '/home/a'. > > Do you have the correct graphics drivers installed (xf86-video-*)? At > least xf86-video-vesa should work. See > <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Driver_installation> > Yes, according to the successful initiation of an x session when signed in as root and the driver installation test instructions.

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[arch-general] SLOB Allocator Vulernability
by Mark Lee 23 Mar '14

23 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Salutations, I recently read an interesting article on a Slob allocator vulnerability in the Linux kernel. It was an interesting read so I am reposting it for you all. <http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/exploiting-linux-kernel-heap-corrupti…> Regards, Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlMvJC4ACgkQZ/Z80n6+J/a1IQD+OaIhObNMWJkLXxv5zjb47802 nmEoMdpmFzXcFLxdaS8A/2gTP9l0l+wGVPs9nko6/wF3hAMnF0qKNlFyL8yXZpon =+tvh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] [contribution] Pages from Arch Wiki optimized for offline browsing
by Jakub Lahwaacz Klinkovský 23 Mar '14

23 Mar '14

Hello all, I would like to present my most recent work: arch-wiki-docs-clean [1]. The package provides pages from the Arch Wiki, optimized for offline browsing, meaning they contain only the content, all MediaWiki navigation components are removed. While I was at it, I have also fixed another bugs found in the existing arch-wiki-docs [2] package: internal links with fragments (i.e. links to sections) are working. While there is still some work to be done [3], I think it is already much better than community/arch-wiki-docs. Downloading all pages from the wiki takes some time, so I have a package pre-built for you: [4]. Alternatively, you the HTML pages are dumped into 'dump_html' branch on Github (the PKGBUILD will use them by default). I will appreciate any feedback as well as suggestions for future development, I hope somebody will find it useful. Regards, [1]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/arch-wiki-docs-clean/ [2]: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/arch-wiki-docs/ [3]: https://github.com/lahwaacz/arch-wiki-docs/issues [4]: http://lahwaacz.sh.cvut.cz/ -- jlk

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[arch-general] user management error
by message 23 Mar '14

23 Mar '14

Readers, A previously existing /home directory was mounted into the file system during the installation process; this directory contained files in a directory 'a'. A user was created from the root user account: useradd -M -p [password] -s /bin/bash [username'a'] After reboot, the system is restarted as root because the user 'a' is stated to not exist. The command 'cat /etc/passwd' reveals a password 'x', but this is not the password that was entered. How to solve this error?

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Re: [arch-general] graphical display management
by message 20 Mar '14

20 Mar '14

On 2014-03-20 00:41, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:20:28 +0100 > From: "Armin K." <krejzi(a)email.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] graphical display management > > On 03/19/2014 09:17 PM, message wrote: >> Readers, >> >> According to the command 'pacman -Q -e | less', gdm is shown as >> installed. The command 'startx' doesn't start gdm, but instead the >> same >> graphical manager that starts following the test procedure. >> >> How to start gdm? >> > > gdm is a daemon, not something that's started with startx. After power-on, the computer starts with a sign-in prompt. Normal user does not work. Signed in as root and the computer never starts with a graphical interface, always the command terminal. > > systemctl start gdm, as root. > > systemctl enable gdm will enable it to always start at boot. From to the wiki web page, the command 'ls -l /etc/systemd/system/default.target' revealed: displaymanagerservice gettytargetwants/ multiusertargetwants/ There is no 'defaulttarget' -- digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread

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[arch-general] Connect android with kdeconnect in archlinux
by Maykel Franco 20 Mar '14

20 Mar '14

I have installed kdeconnect by pacman. When I exec: maykel@arch-maykel ~/ $ sudo qdbus org.kde.kded /kded loadModule kdeconnect qdbus: could not exec '/usr/lib/qt/bin/qdbus': No such file or directory Can I help me please? Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] tap device
by arnaud gaboury 20 Mar '14

20 Mar '14

Hi, I am setting up a network for a container. I have a bridge br0 with a eth adapter "enp7s0" and a tap device "tap0" ******************************* /etc/netctl/bridge Description="Bridge connection" Interface=br0 Connection=bridge BindsToInterfaces=(enp7s0 tap0) IP=static Address='192.168.1.87/24' Gateway='192.168.1.254' DNS='192.168.1.254' /etc/netctl/ethernet Description='ethernet connection' Interface=enp7s0 Connection=ethernet IP=no IP6=no /etc/netctl/tuntap Description='tuntap connection' Interface=tap0 Connection=tuntap Mode='tap' User='nobody' Group='nobody' ****************************** gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % netctl list * ethernet * tuntap * bridge gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % ip addr 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enp7s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast master br0 state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 14:da:e9:b5:7a:88 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: tap0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,PROMISC,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast master br0 state DOWN group default qlen 500 link/ether 6a:1d:c3:4b:91:4d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 4: br0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default link/ether 14:da:e9:b5:7a:88 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.87/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global br0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::16da:e9ff:feb5:7a88/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % lsmod | grep tun 58:tun 19783 1 ************************************* I do not understand why the tap0 profile is listed as DOWN. (# ip link set dev tap0 up does nothing more) I have a custom kernel. Do I need to add anything? Is there anything wrong on my netctl profiles ? No dhcp enable. TY for help

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Re: [arch-general] user management error
by message 20 Mar '14

20 Mar '14

On 2014-03-18 13:01, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:30:34 +0100 > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] user management error > > You can't login as user, you log in as root. There seems to be a > serious > language barrier between you and the Arch community. > OK: for archlinux, the first sign-in must be as root? > I assume we are talking about tty, no display manager is involved? > I tried what I think was lxdm, but dvorak recognition fails, so un-installed.

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[arch-general] BTRFS scrub from systemd unit
by Sean Greenslade 20 Mar '14

20 Mar '14

Hi, folks. I've been noodling over this rather odd issue I've been having, and I thought I'd get a second opinion on things. I've got a server with four hard disks, set up in two (separate) BTRFS RAID1 mounts. I just recovered from a bout of SATA signalling issues (which BTRFS did a marvellous job of saving my data from), and I'd like to periodically fire off scrubs to ensure my data's OK. If I manually run a scrub: ---------------------------------------------------- $ sudo btrfs scrub start /media/data/ scrub started on /media/data/, fsid 490b8b7c-59c4-45dc-ac63-6a90f0966776 (pid=14434) ---------------------------------------------------- Then things work as they should: ---------------------------------------------------- $ sudo btrfs scrub status /media/data/ scrub status for 490b8b7c-59c4-45dc-ac63-6a90f0966776 scrub started at Wed Mar 19 20:27:14 2014, running for 40 seconds total bytes scrubbed: 12.70GiB with 0 errors $ sudo btrfs scrub cancel /media/data/ scrub cancelled $ sudo btrfs scrub status /media/data/ scrub status for 490b8b7c-59c4-45dc-ac63-6a90f0966776 scrub started at Wed Mar 19 20:27:14 2014 and was aborted after 89 seconds total bytes scrubbed: 28.17GiB with 0 errors ---------------------------------------------------- So far, so good. So I made a systemd unit to trigger the scrub: ---------------------------------------------------- $ cat /etc/systemd/system/diskscrub.service [Unit] Description=Disk scrub runner [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/usr/bin/btrfs scrub start /media/data ---------------------------------------------------- Now, this unit starts fine, and exits immediately as it should, being a oneshot service and given that the btrfs scrub command backgrounds itself (or something? I'm not exactly sure what it does, but it returns immediately). However, the scrub status does not work and the scrub cannot be canceled: ---------------------------------------------------- $ sudo systemctl start diskscrub $ sudo systemctl status diskscrub diskscrub.service - Disk scrub runner Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/diskscrub.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) Mar 19 20:33:38 rat systemd[1]: Starting Disk scrub runner... Mar 19 20:33:38 rat systemd[1]: Started Disk scrub runner. Mar 19 20:33:38 rat btrfs[15221]: scrub started on /media/data, fsid 490b8b7c-59c4-45dc-ac63-6a90f0966776 (pid=15222) $ sudo btrfs scrub status /media/data/ scrub status for 490b8b7c-59c4-45dc-ac63-6a90f0966776 no stats available total bytes scrubbed: 0.00 with 0 errors $ sudo btrfs scrub cancel /media/data/ ERROR: scrub cancel failed on /media/data/: not running ---------------------------------------------------- New scrubs cannot be started until the stale/invalid scrub states are deleted (rm -f /var/lib/btrfs/*). So I'm stumped, here. Anyone have any clue as to what's happening? Thanks, --Sean

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[arch-general] graphical display management
by message 19 Mar '14

19 Mar '14

Readers, According to the command 'pacman -Q -e | less', gdm is shown as installed. The command 'startx' doesn't start gdm, but instead the same graphical manager that starts following the test procedure. How to start gdm?

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Re: [arch-general] user management error
by message 19 Mar '14

19 Mar '14

On 2014-03-18 13:01, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:53:08 +0100 > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] user management error > > I don't understand you. "su" isn't recognised, but you su to user "a"? > Not at first power-on, but checked that OK after first sign-in as root.

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Re: [arch-general] user management error
by message 19 Mar '14

19 Mar '14

On 2014-03-17 22:59, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:50:19 -0400 > From: Gerald Stuhrberg <gstuhrberg(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] user management error > > If the directory isn't being mounted, can you please post the contents > of > /etc/fstab ? > There are two entries: /dev/sda... uuid=... / ext4 /dev/sad... uuid=... /home ext4

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[arch-general] When change tty1 the locale change
by Maykel Franco 19 Mar '14

19 Mar '14

Hi, I am spanish. I like arch linux, is my prefer for the fast it. The problem is when I change the tty1, for example, the locale language change to english. Why?? Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] Error continuous in log /var/log/messages
by Maykel Franco 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

I have received this error constant: Mar 18 19:15:48 arch-maykel dbus[212]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service failed to load: No such file or directory Can I help me?? Why?? Thanks in advanced.

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Re: [arch-general] database non-existent error
by message 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

On 2014-03-16 21:58, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:06:36 +0100 > From: Kacper ?uk <kacper.b.zuk(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] database non-existent error > > I believe you've wanted to use pacstrap, not pacman :) > Sorry, pacman was a favourite arcade game...:)

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[arch-general] Pulseaudio 5.1 Setup echoes Front Speakers to Rear speakers
by Mark Lee 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Salutations, I recently hooked up a 5.1 surround sound receiver to my Haswell setup via HDMI. I used the sound manager in gnome to set the system to output 5.1 surround sound. However, while testing each individual speaker using the gnome sound settings, I found that front speakers were echoing content to rear speakers (with a small delay). I also noticed that if I set the fade to rear, I would lose all front speaker output. Moving the fade to the front reproduced the echo again. This is noticeable in any 5.1 audio I play as well. Has anyone experienced this and found a solution? Regards, Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlMmgTsACgkQZ/Z80n6+J/a4oQD/SmOzZZJ9hlu1o6z1TV62gGqc TVRZrVu2yMBnQb3l5XUA/AznszmgsTjGd7Kq01LvwjzGCCsgkZNDYoz2UXLrZyWT =ekbP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 113, Issue 42
by message 18 Mar '14

18 Mar '14

On 2014-03-17 22:59, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:45:39 -0400 > From: Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] user management error > > What do you mean the system restarted as root? Do you mean that the > system logged you in as root automatically? If that is the case, how > did > you enable auto login? If that is not the case, login as root and try > '# > su a' to login as the user and 'passwd' to change the user's password. > No, the system does not start as root. After many reboots, am unable to sign-in directly as normal user 'a'. Have to sign in as 'root' (command 'su' not recognised), then change to 'a' using 'su a'. Access to /home directory 'a' (/home/a) is successful.

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[arch-general] Upgrade systemd 208-11 -> systemd-210-3 - suspend issue
by Friedrich Strohmaier 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

Hi all, I run a Lenovo x200 which usually is put on the docking station with lid closed. after the Upgrade of systemd-208-11 -> systemd-210-3 while booting it immediately suspends when systemd somehow reaches suspend.service at startup. - If I open lid it resumes, - if I close lid it suspends again. - If I stroke any key with lid closed it resumes and immediately suspends again. All works fine if I downgrade to systemd-208-11. This means: - It suspends if I close open lid. - It resumes when stroking a key and continues working with lid closed. - While booting it simply works if lid is closed while starting the machine. Now my question: Does anyone know about changed default settings in systemd-210 causing this behaviour? Gruß/regards -- Friedrich

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[arch-general] the Team needs You!!
by Billy McCann 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

Salutations and Felicitations. Not long ago, a call was put out to the Arch community to assist in the monitoring and reporting of Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures. [1][2] The Arch community has responded by creating the Arch CVE Monitoring Team (ACMT). The wiki page contains all of the information one would need to begin helping.[3] It gives clear and simple instructions to get you up to speed on finding, reporting, and documenting CVE's. This is a relatively simple way to make a major contribution to Arch Linux. If you've found yourself wanting to contribute to Arch, but haven't yet found a way, then join the ACMT! Please join us in helping keep Arch and its users secure! "But how do I join?" I hear you asking. Simple. 1. Read the wiki page. [3] You'll find a supple list of RSS feeds and mailing lists that you can follow. 2. Feel the overwhelming sense of pride and honor that engulfs you as you add your name to the ACMT list.[4] 3. Watch out for CVE's. When (not if) you find one, file a bug report and record it on CVE-2014 page. [5] "Is there cake?" The cake is a lie. But the champagne flows like the river Rhine. So come join the Team. Kind Regards, BW [1] https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2014-March/025952.h… [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures [3]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_CVE_Monitoring_Team [4] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_CVE_Monitoring_Team#Package_Categ… [5]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CVE-2014 -- Billy Wayne McCann, Ph.D. <https://plus.google.com/+BillyWayneMcCann> irc://irc.freenode.net:bwayne "A rich man will always desire what his wealth cannot acquire." ~ Faust (Goethe)

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[arch-general] display manager dvorak recognition failure
by message 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

Readers, Initially lxdm, gdm have been installed, but neither recognise a dvorak keyboard. How to configure the graphical display manager so that a user can specify the keyboard layout before to enter sign-in credentials? -- digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread

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Re: [arch-general] installation using existing filesystem
by message 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

On 2014-03-16 21:58, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 22:58:03 +0100 > From: Karol Blazewicz <karol.blazewicz(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] installation using existing filesystem > > Have you read > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide#Mount_the_partitions > ? > No, thanks (am reading the installation guide first! :) ). Now revealed the local disk structure: sda1 vfat, sda2 vfat, sda3 [blank], sda4 swap, sda5 ext4, sda6 ext4 No mountpoints are shown. What tool is available to determine if sda5 is the /home directory of the previous (mandriva) installation? I want to perform a base installation, leaving the /home directory un-touched. -- digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread

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[arch-general] installation using existing filesystem
by message 16 Mar '14

16 Mar '14

Readers, Tried: pacstrap /mnt base Which failed, due missing mountpoint. Similarly with '/' (/proc in use). What is the correct command to instruct installation using the existing filesystem (previously mandriva: /, /boot, swap, /home partitions)? --

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[arch-general] database non-existent error
by message 16 Mar '14

16 Mar '14

Readers, A little history: previously a mandrake and suse user,just tried mageia that failed and now want to try a different system! Version 20140301dual was downloaded as an iso file then burnt onto a CD. (This was a reason to try: other distributions are getting too big, beyond the typical cd capacity). The (old) pc file structure is inherited from mandriva, with separate mount points for m$, /home /swap /boot /. Tried the command: pacman /mnt base error response, that database files are non-existent for core, extra, community. What to do please?

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[arch-general] Problems about SSD
by KangJing Huang 15 Mar '14

15 Mar '14

Hi, there. I'm not sure if I should post this question here, maybe I should go to somewhere else like archlinux bbs or LKML, but if I did do anything wrong, please point it out... I'm currently encountering some really weird hardware problems, that is my newly installed SSD randomly refuses to work. I have looked up in my kernel messages and found something like this: Mar 15 23:03:34 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4090000 action 0xe frozen Mar 15 23:03:34 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: irq_stat 0x00400040, connection status changed Mar 15 23:03:34 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SError: { PHYRdyChg 10B8B DevExch } Mar 15 23:03:34 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: hard resetting link Mar 15 23:03:34 hkj-laptop kernel: psmouse serio2: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3 Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/02:00:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) succeeded Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE LOCK) filtered out Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/10:03:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/02:00:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) succeeded Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE LOCK) filtered out Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/10:03:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: EH complete Mar 15 23:03:35 hkj-laptop kernel: input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/input/input15 Mar 15 23:03:36 hkj-laptop kernel: r8169 0000:0c:00.0 enp12s0: link down Mar 15 23:03:36 hkj-laptop kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): enp12s0: link is not ready Mar 15 23:03:39 hkj-laptop kernel: type=1006 audit(1394895819.257:2): pid=351 uid=0 old auid=4294967295 new auid=1000 old ses=4294967295 new ses=1 res=1 Mar 15 23:03:39 hkj-laptop kernel: type=1006 audit(1394895819.263:3): pid=414 uid=0 old auid=4294967295 new auid=1000 old ses=4294967295 new ses=2 res=1 Mar 15 23:04:05 hkj-laptop kernel: type=1006 audit(1394895845.503:4): pid=395 uid=0 old auid=4294967295 new auid=1000 old ses=4294967295 new ses=3 res=1 Mar 15 23:08:53 hkj-laptop kernel: r8169 0000:0c:00.0 enp12s0: link up Mar 15 23:08:53 hkj-laptop kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): enp12s0: link becomes ready Mar 15 23:08:53 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4090000 action 0xe frozen Mar 15 23:08:53 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: irq_stat 0x00400040, connection status changed Mar 15 23:08:53 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SError: { PHYRdyChg 10B8B DevExch } Mar 15 23:08:53 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: hard resetting link Mar 15 23:08:54 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) Mar 15 23:08:59 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: hard resetting link Mar 15 23:08:59 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) Mar 15 23:08:59 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: hard resetting link Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310) Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: disabled Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: EH complete Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] killing request Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3.00: detaching (SCSI 2:0:0:0) Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: Result: hostbyte=0x01 driverbyte=0x00 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 01 40 0a 48 00 00 10 00 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 20974152 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 1, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 2, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 1786973475 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 3, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 4, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 4252743571 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 5, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 235249680 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 6, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 4252743571 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 7, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10738774016 csum 235249680 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 8, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 33247 extent 5844008960 csum 1491206752 wanted 1630629534 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs: bdev /dev/sdb2 errs: wr 0, rd 9, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 33247 extent 5844008960 csum 2566472073 wanted 1630629534 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronizing SCSI cache Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: Result: hostbyte=0x04 driverbyte=0x00 Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Stopping disk Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] START_STOP FAILED Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mar 15 23:09:04 hkj-laptop kernel: Result: hostbyte=0x04 driverbyte=0x00 Mar 15 23:09:06 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:06 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:06 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:06 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:06 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: btrfs csum failed ino 145333 extent 10632859648 csum 2566472073 wanted 2242882195 mirror 0 Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4050002 action 0xe frozen Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SError: { RecovComm PHYRdyChg CommWake DevExch } Mar 15 23:09:08 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: hard resetting link Mar 15 23:09:09 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) Mar 15 23:09:09 hkj-laptop kernel: ata3: EH complete Mar 15 23:09:10 hkj-laptop kernel: r8169 0000:0c:00.0 enp12s0: link down Mar 15 23:09:11 hkj-laptop kernel: r8169 0000:0c:00.0 enp12s0: link up As you can see, the kernel is reporting some ata errors, and with these errors reporting, the kernel tries to hard reset the ata link with the SSD, sometimes it succeeded sometimes failed, and when failed, the drive is turned down and disabled by kernel, which would immediately lead to serious problems and crashes in both file system modules of kernel and user space. I have googled through the net, and found this https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_error_messages wiki saying that these error messages indicates "a hardware problem (often a bad SATA cable or a bad or inadequate power supply)", but I'm not sure which specific hardware problem this case really is. It can be an inadequate power supply, or a hardware failure of the SSD ata controller. As I have bought this drive in less than 3 months, I have to decide whether to start a claim of refund, so I would like to know if these is anyone who encountered any kind of similar problems here. What bothers most in this case is that the problem seems to be completely random and hard to reproduce. I have no idea how it is triggered, sometimes when I start up virtual machine, sometimes when I plug in an external USB device, sometimes when I have run the computer in long hours. But none of the cases described above seems to be reproduce-able, this is driving me mad... Additional data about my hardware and software: Model: Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E430 3254-A71 Hardware modifications: An additional 4GB RAM is added. Original HDD was replaced by a HGST HTS721010A9E630 7200 rpm drive An external SanDisk SD6SF1M128G1022 solid drve was added to the spare mSata/mPCIe port of the laptop. Please help, any kind of reply will be greatly appreciated ! cheers, Chaserhkj

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[arch-general] problem booting and using the installation media
by LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

Hi, I am trying to boot the installation media on a small embedded system already running linux. Everything boots fine until udev starts loading modules. Approximately when the install media reach the bash prompt, the display gets garbled. I suspect that this is when the graphic mode switch from text to graphic. I have been fooling around with the video and the vga kernel cmdline params but I haven't been able to find something that works. When booting the existing system and doing: cat /sys/devices/virtual/vtconsole/vtcon0 I have this: (S) VGA+ The graphic chipset on this system is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller [8086:8108] (rev 07) Does someone have suggestions of things to try to use the installation media on this system? Thank you, Olivier ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium.

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[arch-general] Why is qtcreator updated to 3.0.1.git then 3.1.0beta1?
by GSC 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

I noticed recently that qtcreator is updated to such non-stable versions, and there is no critical bug related that require such updates on the bug tracker. What is the reason this package is updated to such versions so early? I remember there used to be similar early updates with earlier versions of this package. Is it just the maintainer gets too excited?

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[arch-general] creating an archlinux usb key with persistence
by Don Raikes 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Hi, Are there instructions for creating an archlinux usb key with persistence somewhere? I want to use my archlinux usb key as a diagnostic tool, and sometimes it is helpful to save files to it for later review. Any info would be appreciated. BTW: I am planning on using a 64gb usb key for this endeavor.

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[arch-general] Zramswap for /tmp
by Mark Lee 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Salutations, I wanted to float the idea of mounting /tmp on zram. We could still use the 50% ratio (or something less) but reduce the risk of running out of ram while using tmpfs. Regards, Mark

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[arch-general] doubts about rolling release
by Ary Kleinerman 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Hi, I'm a new Archer and I'm planning to install arch linux in a production server environment, but I have doubts because Arch is a rolling release. My question is: what does it happen when there are big changes? e.g. changes in the filesystem or when Arch has started using systemd. Regards, Ary -- *Ing. Ary Kleinerman* Building Networks S.A. Córdoba, Argentina +54 351 5544150

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[arch-general] talkingarch problems formatting partitions
by Don Raikes 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Hi, I downloaded the talkingarch-20140203-dual.iso yesterday and want to install it onto my desktop system. I booted into the talkingarchlinux system no problems, and used parted to create the partitions on my hard disk. When I go to format the partitions, as soon as I enter the command: # mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1 The entire system locks up. I have to do a hard reboot of the system to get anything working again. Any idea why this might be happening?

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[arch-general] Incremental update for TeXLive 2013
by Rémy Oudompheng 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Hello, I am going to push updated TeXLive packages to [extra]. The following bugs are expected to be fixed: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34932 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28560 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28514 Regards, Rémy.

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[arch-general] "Partition" alignment with LVM on LUKS
by Mauro Santos 12 Mar '14

12 Mar '14

I've bought a new HD to replace one that is starting to show problems intermittently. I'm planning to keep a very similar setup to what I have currently, which uses LVM on LUKS. Old HD has 512B physical sectors so alignment there was not a problem. New HD however is an advanced format drive, that means a 4kB sector size and 512B logical sector size, that's where problems can start. The reason I'm asking for input on this is because I can't confirm with a good degree of certainty if things are all properly aligned, by doing and write and readback test (1). Either my google fu is not working or it's hard to find information on this. In [1] the question is similar but there is no answer. The guide on [2] shows some commands with explicit alignment options but the guide is not very recent. In [3] there is some general information and some benchmarks, but no concrete information about lvm on luks. In the wiki there is also mention to explicit alignment options but it's related to SSDs so not the case for me. The only one that seems to get close is [5], by looking at /sys/block/sdXN/queue/minimum_io_size it says 4096. Also for all other layers after that /sys/block/dm-[0-9]/queue/minimum_io_size (one belongs to luks and otherers to lvm) it also says 4096 so I _suppose_ automatic detection might leave things properly aligned. Here's the sequence of commands I have used: -used fdisk to create 2 partitions, used the suggested defaults for start of partition -used cryptsetup to format sda2, didn't use any alignment options -opened the encrypted volume and used pvcreate on it, again didn't use any alignment options -used vgcreate to create a new VG and added the PV I created before -used lvcreate to create several logical volumes, didn't use any alignment options -used mkfs.ext4 to format the logical volumes, also no alignment options used. I can't be 100% sure things are all aligned because of the following: (1) The machines I'm using now don't have AES-NI capable cpus, maximum encryption and decryption speeds are lower than the maximum raw speed of the hard disk (around 100MB/s). The machine where I have the disk connected now can encrypt at 64.5 MiB/s and decrypt at 68.0 MiB/s according to cryptsetup benchmark. Using 'dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=10M count=100' I get 59.6 MB/s and with 'dd if=testfile of=/dev/null bs=10M' I get 59.2 MB/s. These values lead me to believe that everything is properly aligned. Unaligned reads usually don't incur in much of a performance penalty, while unaligned writes should make things slow to a crawl. I would like to get some input from anyone with knowledge or hands on experience on this before I commit to transplanting everything from the current HD to the new one, better get this right the first time than to have to redo it later again. Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for any input. [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169841 [2] http://danynativel.com/blog/2013/02/10/archlinux-installation-guide-on-encr… [3] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/ [4] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lvm#Installing_Arch_Linux_on_LVM [5] http://serverfault.com/questions/356534/ssd-erase-block-size-lvm-pv-on-raw-… -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] A bug about Bumblebee
by Liuyang 12 Mar '14

12 Mar '14

�� optirun firefox [ 1353.034599] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0. Please [ 1353.034658] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled. .................................................................................................................................................................... Kernel:3.10.33-1-lts Driver:nvidia-lts 334.21 ..................................................................................................................................................................... �� cat /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf # Configuration file for Bumblebee. Values should **not** be put between quotes ## Server options. Any change made in this section will need a server restart # to take effect. [bumblebeed] # The secondary Xorg server DISPLAY number VirtualDisplay=:8 # Should the unused Xorg server be kept running? Set this to true if waiting # for X to be ready is too long and don't need power management at all. KeepUnusedXServer=false # The name of the Bumbleblee server group name (GID name) ServerGroup=bumblebee # Card power state at exit. Set to false if the card shoud be ON when Bumblebee # server exits. TurnCardOffAtExit=false # The default behavior of '-f' option on optirun. If set to "true", '-f' will # be ignored. NoEcoModeOverride=false # The Driver used by Bumblebee server. If this value is not set (or empty), # auto-detection is performed. The available drivers are nvidia and nouveau # (See also the driver-specific sections below) Driver=nvidia # Directory with a dummy config file to pass as a -configdir to secondary X XorgConfDir=/etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.d [optirun] Bridge=auto VGLTransport=proxy PrimusLibraryPath=/usr/lib/primus:/usr/lib32/primus AllowFallbackToIGC=false ## Section with nvidia driver specific options, only parsed if Driver=nvidia [driver-nvidia] # Module name to load, defaults to Driver if empty or unset KernelDriver=nvidia PMMethod=bbswitch # colon-separated path to the nvidia libraries LibraryPath=/usr/lib/nvidia:/usr/lib32/nvidia # comma-separated path of the directory containing nvidia_drv.so and the # default Xorg modules path XorgModulePath=/usr/lib/nvidia/xorg,/usr/lib/xorg/modules XorgConfFile=/etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia ## Section with nouveau driver specific options, only parsed if Driver=nouveau [driver-nouveau] KernelDriver=nouveau PMMethod=auto XorgConfFile=/etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau .................................................................................................................................................................. �� cat /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" Option "AutoAddGPU" "false" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "DiscreteNvidia" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BusID "PCI:01:00:0" Option "ProbeAllGpus" "false" Option "NoLogo" "true" Option "UseEDID" "false" Option "UseDisplayDevice" "none" EndSection ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... And with kernel 3.15 and nvidia driver 334.21 I got the same message. Asking you for help.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cyclic dependencies between systemd and util-linux
by Leonid Isaev 12 Mar '14

12 Mar '14

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:21:20 +0100 Tobias Powalowski <tobias.powalowski(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Am 12.03.2014 06:32, schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi: > > On 02/24/2014 03:56 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> Right now, we have a problem with cyclic dependencies in core: systemd > >> requires libblkid and libuuid (systemd-udevd) and util-linux requires > >> libudev (findmnt, and soon uuidd [1]). > >> > >> I don't like this situation and currently it is revoled by adding > >> systemd as optdepend to util-linux. This has the side effect that in a > >> chroot with only certain packages installed, one has to explicitly > >> install systemd to get findmnt working. Since I've run into this > >> situation and cyclic deps are bad, I propose the following: > >> > >> Split both util-linux and systemd into libutil-linux/util-linux and > >> libsystemd/systemd. Then we could have both util-linux and systemd > >> depend on both libsystemd and libutil-linux. > >> > >> [1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg08699.html > >> > > We also have another set when installing {base} group: > > > > warning: util-linux will be installed before its coreutils dependency > > warning: util-linux will be installed before its pam dependency > > warning: shadow will be installed before its pam dependency > > > > > New depends introduce error during base installation, > libutil-linux needs coreutils first else no install is found. Sorry for cross-list posting... Actually, this is an old error which I saw on all new installs for quite some time. For example: ----- [2014-02-14 19:46] [PACMAN] installed shadow (4.1.5.1-7) [2014-02-14 19:46] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] /tmp/alpm_p51CHp/.INSTALL: line 6: install: command not found [2014-02-14 19:46] [PACMAN] installed util-linux (2.24.1-1) ----- Cheers, L. -- Leonid Isaev GPG key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Upgrading Apache to 2.4
by Anatol Pomozov 12 Mar '14

12 Mar '14

Hi + php maintainer On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Rene Pasing <rene(a)pasing.net> wrote: > Hi Anatol, > > On 03/06/2014 10:48 PM, Anatol Pomozov wrote: >> Apache 2.4 has been moved from [testing] to [extra] and now available >> for everyone. Please update your setup, follow the migration >> instructions https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html and >> report any problems. Thanks everyone. > > I get the following error: > > Mar 06 23:59:34 VAIO-ARCH apachectl[697]: [Thu Mar 06 23:59:34.072638 > 2014] [:crit] [pid 699:tid 139754760394624] Apache is running a threaded > MPM, but your PHP Module is not compiled to be threadsafe. You need to > recompile PHP. > Mar 06 23:59:34 VAIO-ARCH apachectl[697]: AH00013: Pre-configuration failed > Mar 06 23:59:34 VAIO-ARCH systemd[1]: httpd.service: control process > exited, code=exited status=1 > Mar 06 23:59:34 VAIO-ARCH systemd[1]: Failed to start Apache Web Server. > Mar 06 23:59:34 VAIO-ARCH systemd[1]: Unit httpd.service entered failed > state. > > I will switch to php-fpm soon, but nevertheless... Just wanted you to be > aware... ;-) Sounds like a bug to me. Mind filing one at bugs.archlinux.org? Pierre, I found some information in Google+ related to apache24 package in aur: "The only thing was that I had to recompile PHP to be thread-safe. It was '--enable-zts' parameter, I think...". The flag sounds like a solution for this bug.

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[arch-general] Security vulnerability (CVE-2014-0004) in udisks/udisks2
by Manuel Reimer 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

Hello, I already flagged the packages out of date, but maybe other people are interested, too, that there is a known security hole in udisks/udisks2, which has been fixed upstream with new releases: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2014-March/001568.html Greetings, Manuel

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[arch-general] The pacman upgrading error has been solved
by Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

Hi all: I really appreciate Emil Lundberg, Paul Gideon Dann, Temlin Oliv?r, , Guus Snijders' great suggestion, you are right, that's my fault to use /dev/mapper/arch_root_image as the root partition, now I can login the system,it seems my system is working now. There are two things I do today (my mistakes) based on your suggestion: 1. Instead of using /dev/mapper/ arch_root_image, I use /dev/sda3 as my root partition, and mount first. 2. I copy the files /bin/* to /mnt/bin, so that the error message "failed to run command /bin/sh, no such file or directory" will not exists. I don't see this solution in the internet, I am just think it by myself, so maybe this can help other people with the same problem if what I have done is correct. I don't know how to appreciate all of you, the community. I am so glad to fix this problem now. During the process, I have learned a lot of things, and become more familiar with arch linux, and also love it more (I always love the things more when I get more familiar with). The feeling is strange, at beginning, I see that problem, I have no idea, and become very worried about that. I am considering that time I am failers, just hoping some angel can come and solve that problem for me ... But now, I start learning these things, about what's happening, and with your help, I become more and more confident. Thank you all. I hope my experience can benefit other people, especially the new archer, I want to tell you, don't be afraid, go ahead, start learning, asking good question, and then finally you can fix your problems! The last thing I will do is format the window system of my laptop, install arch linux :) Renzhi Cao Cell: 573-825-8874 Email : rcrg4(a)mail.missouri.edu<https://bluprd0112.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=HgdIKZwfkkG-ZqHZQdR5l5Qjeol…> http://web.missouri.edu/~rcrg4/

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[arch-general] netctl hangs after last update
by Robert Knauer 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

Hello, after the update yesterday (see pacman log at the end of the e-mail), netctl hangs when I try to start my network connection with the error message: > A dependency job for netctl(a)conn1.service failed. See 'journalctl > -xn' for details. The hanging sub-process of netctl seems to be /usr/bin/systemd-tty-ask-password-agent --watch. In my syslog are the following lines: > [19:42:09] info daemon systemd Expecting device sys-subsystem- > net-devices-eth0.device... > [19:43:39] warning daemon systemd Job sys-subsystem-net-devices- > eth0.device/start timed out. > [19:43:39] err daemon systemd Timed out waiting for device > sys-subsystem-net-devices-eth0.device. > [19:43:39] err daemon systemd Dependency failed for The main network > connection. My netctl profile is the following: > Description='The main network connection' > Interface=ens3 > Connection=ethernet > IP=static > Address=('xx.xx.xx.xx/22') > Gateway='xx.xx.xx.xx' > DNS=('xx.xx.xx.xx' 'xx.xx.xx.xx') > IP6=static > Address6=('xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx::1/64') > Gateway6='fe80::1' My network interfaces: # ifconfig -a ens3: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 inet xx.xx.xx.xx netmask 255.255.252.0 broadcast xx.xx.xx.xx inet6 xxxx::xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link> ether 52:54:63:06:b9:80 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 8523282 bytes 514974023 (491.1 MiB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 128762 bytes 22725577 (21.6 MiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host> loop txqueuelen 0 (Local Loopback) RX packets 4277680 bytes 330093367 (314.8 MiB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 4277680 bytes 330093367 (314.8 MiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 If I set my ip, subnet, gateway, ... manually with ifconfig, route & so on, everything works fine. Does anybody have an idea what I can do to fix this problem? Regards, Robert. Pacman log: [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] upgraded chrpath (0.13-3 -> 0.16-1) [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] upgraded file (5.17-1 -> 5.17-2) [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] upgraded gnutls (3.2.12-1 -> 3.2.12.1-1) [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] upgraded gptfdisk (0.8.9-1 -> 0.8.10-1) [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] upgraded libarchive (3.1.2-4 -> 3.1.2-6) [2014-03-09 17:14] [PACMAN] upgraded libnl (3.2.23-1 -> 3.2.24-1) [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ... [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio. Please wait... [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'default' [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux.img [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: 3.13.6-1-ARCH [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [base] [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [udev] [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [autodetect] [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [modconf] [2014-03-09 17:14] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [block] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [filesystems] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [keyboard] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [fsck] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating gzip initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux.img [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Image generation successful [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'fallback' [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img -S autodetect [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: 3.13.6-1-ARCH [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [base] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [udev] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [modconf] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [block] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: aic94xx [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: smsmdtv [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [filesystems] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [keyboard] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [fsck] [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating gzip initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Image generation successful [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded linux (3.13.5-1 -> 3.13.6-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM] warning: /etc/php/php.ini installed as /etc/php/php.ini.pacnew [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded php (5.5.9-1 -> 5.5.10-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded php-gd (5.5.9-1 -> 5.5.10-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded php-intl (5.5.9-1 -> 5.5.10-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded owncloud (6.0.1-1 -> 6.0.2-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded php-cgi (5.5.9-1 -> 5.5.10-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded php-mcrypt (5.5.9-1 -> 5.5.10-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded phpmyadmin (4.1.8-1 -> 4.1.9-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded s-nail (14.6.1-1 -> 14.6.2-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] installed libseccomp (2.1.1-1) [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] :: systemd has not been reexecuted. It is recommended that you [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] reboot at your earliest convenience. [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] :: Network device naming is now controlled by udev's net_setup_link [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] builtin. Refer to the NETWORK LINK CONFIGURATION section of the [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] udev manpage for a full description. [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] :: No changes have been made to your network naming configuration. [2014-03-09 17:15] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Interfaces should continue to maintain the same names. [2014-03-09 17:15] [PACMAN] upgraded systemd (208-11 -> 210-3)

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[arch-general] Cannot recover pacman upgrade fails problem
by Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

Hi, all: I really have no idea for the pacman upgrading fails issue, so I summarize the problem I meet, and the things I try, if any one can give me suggestions of what I miss something or I do something wrong, I really appreciate, if not, I hope this summation can benefit some other people who meets the same problem. The initial problem: After using pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem to upgrade my arch linux, and reboot, get the following message: ERROR: device '/dev/disk/by-uuid/3f51b ...' not found. Skipping fsck. ERROR: Unable to find root device '/dev/disk/by-uuid/3f51b ...'. You are being dropped to a recovery shell. You are being dropped to a recovery shell Type "exit" to try and continue booting sh: cant access tty; job control turned off. [ramfs /]# _ The solution may be used to solve this problem : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman#Q:_After_updating_my_system.2C_… I first try the first method, not work, and then try the second method: The following is the command I run and the output after I use a live CD for my system: (People have similar problem can consider it) #fdisk -l /Dev/sda : 2000.4 GB. Device boot|start|end|blocks|id|systems /dev/sda1 … Linux swap/solaris /dev/sda2 … Linux /dev/sda3 … Linux Disk /dev/mapper/arch_root-image Units ... Sectorsize ... #mount /dev/mapper/arch_root-image /mnt #mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/home #mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot #arch-chroot /mnt #pacman-key --init #pacman-key --populate archlinux (This command is needed for the signiture, it takes me a while to figure out this). #pacman -Syu mkinitcpio systemd linux (133/133) checking for file conflicts [######################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) filesystem: /bin exists in filesystem filesystem: /sbin exists in filesystem filesystem: /usr/sbin exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. (I Check this website for the solution: https://www.archlinux.org/news/binaries-move-to-usrbin-requiring-update-int…) #pacman -Qqo /bin /sbin /usr/sbin | pacman -Qm – (you may get different output, the following is mine) sysvinit-tool 2.88-9 lilo 23.2-3 grub-common 2.00-1 sysvinit-tool 2.88-9 lilo 23.2-3 #pacman -R lilo #pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem,bash #pacman -S grub #pacman -S sysvinit-tools #pacman -S systemd #pacman -S bash #pacman -Su #pacman -Syu mkinitcpio systemd linux (now for me, this command can run successfully) #exit, and umount, reboot After rebooting, I get the following error: /dev/sda3: clean ... ERROR: root device mounted successfully, but /sbin/init does not exist. Bailing out, you are on your own. Good luck. Sh: cannot access tty: job control turned off. [rootfs/]# _ (I check this website for the solution:1. Add "init=/bin/systemd" to the kernel line, based on https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=146388 2. Add "init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" to the kernel line, based on https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=166423) None of them work for me. Here is the command I run in rootfs : #ls bin,buildconfig,config,dev,etc,hooks,init,init_functions,lib,lib_64,new_root,proc,run,root,sys,tmp,usr. I check the folder new_root, it is my system's root folder before it crashes. I don't know how this new folder comes, I am guessing I do something wrong for arch-chroot? I checked : #ls -l /sbin/init .... 7 Mar, /sbin/init -> busybox ( the same output for ls -l /bin/init) #ls -l /bin/systemd No such file #ls -l /usr/lib/systemd/systemd No such file It seems I miss something, and I remember I do reinstall the grub and sysvinit-tools before I quit arch-chroot. Welcome to ask me questions for some details if you have the same problem, and welcome to give me suggestions. ? Thank you all! Renzhi Cao Email : rcrg4(a)mail.missouri.edu<https://bluprd0112.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=HgdIKZwfkkG-ZqHZQdR5l5Qjeol…>

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[arch-general] Problems of using pacman and updating the filesystem
by Cao, Renzhi (MU-Student) 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

Hi, I get some problems about pacman. At beginning, I use pacman -Syu to update the system, and then I cannot login the system. I checked the internet, and then use CD to load the system, and use pacman -Syu mkinitcpio systemd linux, and get the following information: (133/133) checking for file conflicts [######################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) filesystem: /bin exists in filesystem filesystem: /sbin exists in filesystem filesystem: /usr/sbin exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. After this, I use the following command to update the system: pacman -Syu --ignore filesystem,bash pacman -S bash and then reboot, get the following information: ERROR: root device mounted successfully, but /sbin/init does not exist. Bailing out, you are on your own. Good luck. Sh: cannot access tty: job control turned off. ? I really appreciate if anyone can help me to solve this problem, it seems I damage the file system. Is there any way to go back to the previous system, or repair this error? Thank you all. Renzhi Cao Email : rcrg4(a)mail.missouri.edu<https://bluprd0112.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=HgdIKZwfkkG-ZqHZQdR5l5Qjeol…>

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Get involved with tracking security issues in Arch Linux packages
by Karol Blazewicz 09 Mar '14

09 Mar '14

Please add some description etc. of the new ML https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [kde-unstable] 4.13
by Genes Lists 09 Mar '14

09 Mar '14

Thanks for putting this up - much appreciated. Testing this now - I didn't see any significant visual changes and don't see much behavioural diffs either other than desktop search. However I had nepomuk turned off (I have zero need or interest in any global search) - for the life of me I cannot find the off button with baloo. I did add every directory to the ignore list - but i'd rather turn off unneeded services. Anyone know how to turn it off?

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[arch-general] Move from libjpeg-turbo to mozjpeg
by N30N 08 Mar '14

08 Mar '14

Hi there, Mozilla have made a fork of the libjpeg-turbo package called mozjpeg, which features improved encoding: https://blog.mozilla.org/research/2014/03/05/introducing-the-mozjpeg-projec… I'd like to propose making the switch. The "library configuration defaults are the same as for libjpeg-turbo, in order to make transitions as painless as possible". A PKGBUILD can be found on the AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mozjpeg/ Thanks for your consideration, N30N.

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[arch-general] PKGBUILD any way to create pkg-A & pkg-A-test that install w/o conflict
by David C. Rankin 08 Mar '14

08 Mar '14

All, Is it possible to create multiple packages that have different package names but are the same package (with different patches) and have them install without conflict? (for testing) Currently I'm testing systemd patches for pkg 'tde-tdebase'. I built a separate package with the systemd patches called 'tde-tdebase-systemd'. Both have the same provides=('tdebase'). Whenever I attempt to install tde-tdebase-systemd, it conflicts with every file from the old tde-tdebase packages requiring a 'pacman -Rdd tde-tdebase', then a pacman -U tde-tdebase-systemd to install. I would like to find something like replaces=() that would work on simple package installs without doing a Sysupgrade each time I switch back and forth. Is this possible, or is it just better to keep the same pkgname and use different pkgrel to distinguish (I've been doing it this way, but would like to use a descriptive filename that identifies included patches) I know 'replaces' is only for Sysupgrade, is there any workaround for normal package installs? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] systemd-nspawn/systemd-networkd/
by arnaud gaboury 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

Hi, I do not consider myself as a Linux expert, but rather an advanced user. I am running Arch for a few years now, with a clean setting environment and no major breakage. I am a great fan of systemd functionallities, but I waste my time the past two weeks setting up a working network on a systemd-nspawn managed container with no success. My setup is rather basic : a static IP for the main machine (it seems the HOST term is not relevant) and a static IP for the container. I have been reading/posting a lot, but as today didn't get a clean answer about netctl/systemd-networkd configuration files. Systemd is now ruling the Linux world, as more and more services are managed by it. This is not a bad thing, but in my opinion, there is a clear lack of good documentation/manuals/wiki. As it seems we are bound to learn systemd, I wish the systemd community could propose more documented manuals. This is not the case today. We shall now engage a serious rethinking of what part of systemd shall be in core, and what part stay in devel. A good example would be systemd-networkd. Honestly, this service needs supra intelligence or NASA tech engineer knowledge. Lennart and his team are certainly very good dev and clever guys, but they clearly don't deliver good documentation. I remember that one of my main pain in Linux was to set up a working pulse audio service ! As a long time Linux user, I do not see any interest in setting up packages with no serious documentations. I do not want my post to start a new flame as the one two years ago, but I am expecting some kind of community reaction against beta/broken/incomprehensible services. I wish the Arch community could be able to separate the working/documented part of systemd from the dark/beta part only dedicated to a few elite.

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[arch-general] bridge with netctl
by arnaud gaboury 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

Dear list, I am running a machine "hortensia" with a container "dahlia". As the container will be a server, I want to have one IP for hortensia and another one for dahlia. On hortensia, with dhcpcd.service and systemd-networkd both disabled, I start at boot two netctl profiles. /etc/netctl/bridge-hortensia Description="Bridge connection to container" Interface=br0 Connection=bridge BindsToInterfaces=() IP=no /etc/netctl/static-hortensia Description='hortensia static ethernet connection' Interface=enp7s0 Connection=ethernet IP=static Address=('192.168.1.87/24') Gateway=('192.168.1.254') DNS=('192.168.1.254') Then here is the result: $ ip addr 2: enp7s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 14:da:e9:b5:7a:88 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.87/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global enp7s0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::16da:e9ff:feb5:7a88/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 3: br0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default link/ether 22:6d:8b:ac:6e:31 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::206d:8bff:feac:6e31/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever Two questions : - is the command output correct for br0 ? - all wiki said to bind bridge interface to my ethernet device (enp7s0). But if I modified the /etc/netctl/bridge-hortensia this way : BindsToInterfaces=(enp7s0) I have no working network on machine hortensia. Is this behavior correct ? Now let's start the dahlia container # systemd-nspawn --machine=dahlia --network-bridge=br0 -bD /dahlia' On hortensia, now a new ip addr output, as supposed it shall be (vb-dahlia): $ ip addr 2: enp7s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 14:da:e9:b5:7a:88 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.87/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global enp7s0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::16da:e9ff:feb5:7a88/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 3: br0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default link/ether 1a:2d:eb:58:8e:db brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::206d:8bff:feac:6e31/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 5: vb-dahlia: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop master br0 state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether 1a:2d:eb:58:8e:db brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff My issue is that br0 is DOWN and can't make it up with this command: # ip link set dev br0 up This has no effect. Then, I can see NO-CARRIER in the br0 status. Is it the expected output ? Why is br0 DOWN ? Why can't I bring it UP ? All this leaves me with a broken network on the container dahlia: $ ip addr 2: host0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI,NOTRAILERS,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether b2:25:69:eb:ea:a9 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.94/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global host0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever host0 is DOWN with again NO-CARRIER I have no idea what part of the setup is missing. I run a custom kernel, so is there any wrong configuration on it ? The kernel is moderately customized, but maybe did I disabled some needed flag ? Thank you for help.

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Re: [arch-general] Open Source ati driver can't load GLX extension
by Jesse Jaara 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

Delcypher <delcypher(a)gmail.com> kirjoitti: Or you could just build LLVM (and clang if you need it) from source and link your project against that. That way, you can upgrade your system's LLVM/clang packages without breaking your project. Or even better port the codebase to llvm 3.4.

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[arch-general] Open Source ati driver can't load GLX extension
by Heiko Becker 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

Hey, when I try to run steam, since some days, I'm getting the following error: Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1393366296_client) Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1393366296_client) OpenGL GLX extension not supported by displayAssert( Assertion Failed: Fatal Error: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ):/home/buildbot/buildslave_steam/steam_rel_client_ubuntu12_linux/build/src/steamUI/Main.cpp:286 Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1393366296_client) Uploading dump (out-of-process) [proxy ''] /tmp/dumps/assert_20140305130718_4.dmp Finished uploading minidump (out-of-process): success = yes response: CrashID=bp-d5f13248-7775-4252-9eea-d1b472140305 Can anyone help me solving this? Thanks in advance. Heiko

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Upgrading Apache to 2.4
by Anatol Pomozov 06 Mar '14

06 Mar '14

Hi On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Alexander Rødseth <rodseth(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> One suggestion is creating the Apache 2.4 PKGBUILD first, then talk to >> Jan de Groot. >> If he should not be interested in the endeavor, talk to another dev. > > Good news is that I work with Jan and other devs on pushing Apache 2.4 > to repos. In general they are very positive about this move. > > PKGBUILD is ready and once db5 todo is done I'll create Apache2.4 todo > to rebuild the deps. So hopefully we'll see official apache 2.4 > package in [extra] some time soon. Stay tuned. Apache 2.4 has been moved from [testing] to [extra] and now available for everyone. Please update your setup, follow the migration instructions https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html and report any problems. Thanks everyone.

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[arch-general] OT: Any equivalent thing to "google +1 button" for midori?
by Javier Vasquez 06 Mar '14

06 Mar '14

Hi, On firefox there's a pretty neat extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-plus-one or: www.pretty-tools.com However that's clearly a mozilla extension, not a plugin. I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any alternative for midori. Thanks, -- Javier.

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[arch-general] A bug report when installing bbswith, depmod:ERROR
by Liuyang 05 Mar '14

05 Mar '14

depmod: ERROR: Module 'hci_vhci' has devname (vhci) but lacks major and minor information. Ignoring I got the message above after I update my system to the newest released version. Then bbswith and bumblebee doesn't work now. I tried to reinstall that two packages but it still reported the bug message. What can I do? PS: Forgive my pool English.

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Re: [arch-general] A bug report when installing bbswith
by 刘洋 05 Mar '14

05 Mar '14

Re: [arch-general] A bug report when installing bbswith, depmod:ERROR Message-ID: <10423473.j5doMV0LHf@felix-arch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:57:21 Thomas B?chler wrote: > Am 05.03.2014 12:39, schrieb Felix Yan: > > On Wednesday, March 05, 2014 19:36:28 Liuyang wrote: > >> depmod: ERROR: Module 'hci_vhci' has devname (vhci) but lacks major > >> and minor information. Ignoring > >> > >> I got the message above after I update my system to the newest released > >> version. Then bbswith and bumblebee doesn't work now. I tried to > >> reinstall that two packages but it still reported the bug message. What > >> can I do? > >> PS: Forgive my pool English. > > > > Please at least search on our bug tracker first. > > > > Here's the link: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/38686 > > It's funny how people get the idea that this bug report has anything to > do with bbswitch not working. Yet, there is no bug report open regarding > any problems with bbswitch. Hmm, sorry for not reading the original mail in full. I pasted the link just for the depmod message part, and totally missed the point that OP was trying to diagnose his bbswitch just as those on the bug report... Regards, Felix Yan Appreciate your attention. So it seems that bbswitch or some other programs which would give me that report when I execute it may rely on the module called "vhci", while this module have something wrong now, and I can't fix it unless waiting for the update. I had searched the bug via Google but no solution was found to fix it.

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[arch-general] Network-Issues after last updates
by Ruben Kelevra 05 Mar '14

05 Mar '14

Hi there, I got network-issues on my servers after the last upgrades (1-2 weeks). I found very few time to upgrade my servers more often the last days ... so I did systemd 208->210 and linux 3.12.9 to 3.13.x upgrade together. I still using netcfg to staticly configure my cards, the only hw-card was eth0 and now named ens3, which was the first problem on that upgrade ... changing eth0 to ens3 in configuration still wont fix the problem... I'm now upgrading to networkd or netctl, but since I'm not the only in IRC which got the problem you might consider to send out a warning for this might happen. Best regards Ruben

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[arch-general] xbacklight broken in 3.13
by Michael Hauser 02 Mar '14

02 Mar '14

Hi, after update to kernel 3.13, xbacklight fails to adjust the brightness on my Asus EeePc 1015 PX; anyone in the same boat? echoing a number into: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness updates the value as expected, only it doesn't really do anything. Fell back to using the pci method (as described in the wiki) to reduce the glare for the time being. Regards, mih -- 'aware water' is an anagram for 'we are at war'

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[arch-general] Xorg doesn't start
by arno 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

Hi, I am install archlinux on my laptop, and I can't get my graphical card to work (Xorg doesn't start). My card is an ati hd 6750 I've installed xf86-video-ati, xorg-xserver and xorg-xinit. But when I try to run startx, xorg doesn't start, and I get a fatal error: no screens found. Here is the full Xorg log: http://renevier.net/tmp/Xorg.0.log.txt I tried to use catalyst as described on the wiki, but when trying to run aticonfig, I get the following error: no supported adapters detected lspci -v gives me: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff) !!! Unknown header type 7f Kernel driver in use: radeon Kernel modules: radeon, fglrx I also need to mention that when I boot from the install cd, then mount my archlinux system and chroot into it, lspci -v gives me: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Radeon HD 6750M Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 51 Memory at a0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at c0700000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K] I/O ports at 3000 [size=256] Expansion ROM at c0720000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 <?> Capabilities: [150] Advanced Error Reporting Kernel driver in use: radeon So this brings me to my first subquestion: why does lspci work fine when booting from the install/repair CD, but displays "Unknown header type" when booting from my installed system? And my main question is of course: what could I do to get my card working, and X starting? thanks a lot.

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[arch-general] Is it possible to update 3rd party repo index without updating all?
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

All, I would like to update a 3rd party repo index WITHOUT updating any other index. Like adding a --repo option to 'Pacman -Sy'. e.g. Pacman -Sy -r somerepo This would be handy when you want to update a 3rd party index and install updated packages WITHOUT updating core, community, extra... to avoid having to do a full system update just to get new packages from a non-arch repo. There are times when I just want to install a new external package or set of packages but not do a full update involving the kernel, etc. I've looked at all the pacman options and there does not seem to be a way to do this. (Yes - I do understand why all Arch repos must be updated together in order to avoid the partial-update issues) But, with a 3rd party repo, that isn't a concern. Is there a way to do this via pacman, and if not, is there a way to manually download the new 3rd party index and add it to the cache to accomplish the same thing? Like just replacing the current .db index in /var/lib/cache/pacman/sync with the new one?[1] What say the experts? Footnotes: [1] I am asking before trying to avoid screwing something up, so no, I haven't tried it yet. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] sudo arch-nspawn $ch86/root pacman -Syu [missed update]
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '14

01 Mar '14

All, Updating an i686 archroot, the update failed to update wireless_tools-30.pre9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz. The repository used is: http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/archlinux/core/os/i686/ The file is present in the leaseweb repository. I had manually checked for the presence of this file in my archroot because I had failing packages due to the old libiw.so.29 in the archroot. ls -1 /dat_e/ch86/david/lib/libiw* libiw.so -> libiw.so.29 libiw.so.29 So updating the archroot tonight with: sudo arch-nspawn $ch86/root pacman -Syu showed the following packages to be updated: :: Synchronizing package databases... core 106.7 KiB 326K/s 00:00 [##################] 100% extra 1534.6 KiB 530K/s 00:03 [##################] 100% community 2.1 MiB 573K/s 00:04 [##################] 100% local 28.1 KiB 0.00B/s 00:00 [##################] 100% archlinux-keyring-20140220-1 binutils-2.24-2 cryptsetup-1.6.4-1 curl-7.35.0-1 device-mapper-2.02.105-2 dhcpcd-6.2.1-1 e2fsprogs-1.42.9-1 file-5.17-1 flex-2.5.38-1 gcc-4.8.2-8 gcc-libs-4.8.2-8 gdb-7.7-1 glibc-2.19-2 grep-2.18-1 libgcrypt-1.6.1-1 libldap-2.4.39-1 libsasl-2.1.26-7 libusb-1.0.18-1 libusbx-1.0.17-1 [removal] linux-3.13.5-1 linux-api-headers-3.13.2-1 linux-firmware-20140217.343e460-1 lvm2-2.02.105-2 man-pages-3.60-1 pam-1.1.8-3 python2-2.7.6-3 s-nail-14.6.1-1 sqlite-3.8.3.1-1 sudo-1.8.9.p5-1 systemd-208-11 systemd-sysvcompat-208-11 util-linux-2.24.1-1 It completely missed the wireless_tools-30.pre9-1 update. I had to manually download the file and then install with: sudo makechrootpkg -r "$ch86" -I wireless_tools-30.pre9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz How is it possible for an update to the archroot to completely miss a package that is in need of update? My normal install saw the update just fine, does arch-nspawn not handle the naming change for the package correctly? The update was from: wireless_tools-29-8-i686.pkg.tar.xz to wireless_tools-30.pre9-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz Did the '.pre9' screw arch-nspawn up somehow causing it to skip the update? Seems like the 29 -> 30 would take precedence. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] systemd 209 in [testing]
by Genes Lists 28 Feb '14

28 Feb '14

On 02/21/2014 04:24 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 20.02.2014 17:33, schrieb Dave Reisner: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm working on packaging the systemd 209 release, and I expect to have >> pkgrel=1 into [testing] in a few hours, barring any unforseen problems. >> It's a huge release (nearly 2000 commits since 208), and I don't >> anticipate that this will make it into [core]. ... Another data point: 209 booted fine on my Lenovo W520 with KDE - however lid close no longer puts the laptop into sleep. I see this in log: Feb 21 06:16:50 lap3.prv.sapience.com systemd-logind[534]: Lid closed. Feb 21 06:16:51 lap3.prv.sapience.com kernel: thinkpad_acpi: EC reports that Thermal Table has changed But the laptop remained running. My /etc/systemd/logind.conf has this: HandleLidSwitch=ignore LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no which USED to be required - I now wonder if this should be changed to: HandleLidSwitch=suspend LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no or something else. I did notice that the KDE menu Leaeve->Restart didn't work either but that may not be related. Gene

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[arch-general] netctl provides wifi-menu which is unusable
by Nowaker 27 Feb '14

27 Feb '14

Hey, Why does netctl provide /usr/bin/wifi-menu which is unusable at all, given the fact it needs /usr/bin/dialog to operate, and this is not a hard dependency of the package? I don't really get a point of providing a binary/script that doesn't work at all. What is it in the package for? If adding a dependency on dialog (big deal - 200KB) is not an option, why not extract wifi-menu to a separate package? This sounds like the best approach - the package could depend not only on dialog, but also on wpa_supplicant, dhcpcd and other package that anyone installs anyway to get wifi-menu working. -- Kind regards, Damian Nowak StratusHost www.AtlasHost.eu

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[arch-general] Bridge interface with netctl
by arnaud gaboury 27 Feb '14

27 Feb '14

Dear list, I am messing with assigning a static IP on a systemd-nspawn container, on both sides (host,container). My idea is to first create a bridge (br0) on the host. My config on host : systemd-git netctl to configure network ******************** $ ifocnfig enp7s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.87 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 lo... virbr0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 <<< libvirt inet 192.168.122.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.122.255 ************** % netctl list bridge-hortensia ************* % systemctl --failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION systemd-back...klight:eeepc-wmi.service loaded failed failed Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness o <<<< not important . **************** % systemctl status dhcpcd.service dhcpcd.service - dhcpcd on all interfaces Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dhcpcd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2014-02-25 12:14:04 CET; 21min ago Process: 320 ExecStart=/bin/dhcpcd -q -b (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 329 (dhcpcd) CGroup: /system.slice/dhcpcd.service └─329 /bin/dhcpcd -q -b Feb 25 12:22:30 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: br0: removing interface Feb 25 12:22:30 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: carrier lost Feb 25 12:22:31 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: carrier acquired Feb 25 12:22:31 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: soliciting an IPv6 router Feb 25 12:22:31 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.87 Feb 25 12:22:40 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: leased 192.168.1.87 for 86400 seconds Feb 25 12:22:40 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: adding host route to 192.168.1.87 via 127.0.0.1 Feb 25 12:22:40 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: adding route to 192.168.1.0/24 Feb 25 12:22:40 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: adding default route via 192.168.1.254 Feb 25 12:22:45 hortensia dhcpcd[329]: enp7s0: no IPv6 Routers available ********************** gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % cat /etc/netctl/bridge-hortensia Description="Example Bridge connection" Interface=br0 Connection=bridge BindsToInterfaces=enp7s0 IP=no ********************* Now, I want to start the bridge: # netctl start bridge-hortensia % ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 connect: Network is unreachable Same result if I change IP=dhcp I can't see where does the issue come from. Shall I enable a "ethernet-dhcp" netctl profile and disable dhcpcd.service ? Thank you for help.

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[arch-general] Any way to change .PKGINFO post build w/o Rebuilding?
by David C. Rankin 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

All, I patched tdebase for the logind-multiseat patch as was applied to kde-workspace for Arch kde4. Doing so, I forgot to change the provides= replaces= information. Now the new package will not install due to every file conflicting with an existing file. The new file is named 'tde-tdebase-systemd' and it replaces a package named 'tde-tdebase'. Can I decompress the package and manually edit the .PKGINFO file and then recompress the file and have it work? The package is unsigned if that makes any difference. What is currently in the .PKGINFO file is: # Generated by makepkg 4.1.2 # using fakeroot version 1.20 # Wed Feb 26 06:24:01 UTC 2014 pkgname = tde-tdebase-systemd pkgver = R14preRC1-1 pkgdesc = Trinity Desktop Enviroment base components - TDE upstream GIT url = http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tdebase builddate = 1393395841 packager = David C. Rankin < drankinatty at gmail dot com > size = 78513152 arch = i686 license = GPL replaces = trinity-tdebase <snip> provides = tdebase provides = tde-tdebase I think the change needed is: replaces = tde-tdebase replaces = trinity-tdebase provides = tdebase provides = tde-tdebase Does this have a chance of working or should I just bite the bullet and rebuild the package? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] systemd 209 in [testing]
by Genes Lists 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

On 02/20/2014 11:33 AM, Dave Reisner wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working on packaging the systemd 209 release, and I expect to have Good news. My problems ith 209 resolved after updating to 210. thank you!

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[arch-general] gfortran upgrade => recompile packages
by جاك الفضة 26 Feb '14

26 Feb '14

All the time when gfortran is bumped version, all fortran modules (file with .mod extensions) in other packages must be recompiled because module definitions are changed in the new compiler gfortran. Example : netcdf-fortran is broke currently if one try compile this code ==== module test use netcdf end module test ==== gfortran -I/usr/include -c test.f90 test.f90:2.7: use netcdf 1 Fatal Error: Cannot read module file 'netcdf.mod' opened at (1), because it was created by a different version of GNU Fortran

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[arch-general] Error I trying update "pacman -Syu"
by Maykel Franco 25 Feb '14

25 Feb '14

Hi, I receveid this error when I try update the system arch: maykel@arch-maykel /usr/share/ $ LC_ALL=LC sudo pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date multilib is up to date archlinuxfr is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: haskell-haskeline: requires haskell-terminfo=0.3.2.5-3 Can I help me please??

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[arch-general] nano syntax highlighting doesn't work
by Ralf Mardorf 25 Feb '14

25 Feb '14

Hi, I don't know how to get syntax highlighting for nano, when I start it from the Jwm menu. Now I run [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep nano .jwmrc <Program label="Nano">roxterm --maximize -T Nano -e nano</Program> and syntax highlighting doesn't work. If I run nano in roxterm by [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ nano /etc/fstab the highlighting (~/.nanorc) takes effect, but if I run [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ nano and then read /etc/fstab I don't get syntax highlighting. If the below option should be related to the highlighting, then I don't understand how to use it. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ nano --help | grep syntax -Y <str> --syntax=<str> Syntax definition to use for coloring Any hints are welcome. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Problem vmware 10 when I updated kernel arch
by Maykel Franco 25 Feb '14

25 Feb '14

Hi, my version kernel is 3.13.5-1 ARCH and I have updated the arch. When I run the vmware, I get this error: 2014-02-24T00:07:54.226+01:00| vthread-3| I120: using /sbin/gcc for preprocess check 2014-02-24T00:07:54.237+01:00| vthread-3| I120: Preprocessed UTS_RELEASE, got value "3.13.5-1-ARCH". 2014-02-24T00:07:54.237+01:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path "/lib/modules/3.13.5-1-ARCH/build/include" for the kernel "3.13.5-1-ARCH" is valid. Whoohoo! 2014-02-24T00:07:54.292+01:00| vthread-3| I120: Invoking modinfo on "vmnet". 2014-02-24T00:07:54.293+01:00| vthread-3| I120: "/sbin/modinfo" exited with status 256. 2014-02-24T00:07:54.477+01:00| vthread-3| I120: Setting destination path for vmnet to "/lib/modules/3.13.5-1-ARCH/misc/vmnet.ko". 2014-02-24T00:07:54.478+01:00| vthread-3| I120: Extracting the vmnet source from "/usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmnet.tar". 2014-02-24T00:07:54.484+01:00| vthread-3| I120: Successfully extracted the vmnet source. 2014-02-24T00:07:54.484+01:00| vthread-3| I120: Building module with command "/sbin/make -j4 -C /tmp/modconfig-VUc3wF/vmnet-only auto-build HEADER_DIR=/lib/modules/3.13.5-1-ARCH/build/include CC=/sbin/gcc IS_GCC_3=no" 2014-02-24T00:07:56.956+01:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build vmnet. Failed to execute the build command. Can I help me please?? Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] libreoffice-writer upgrade
by Myra Nelson 25 Feb '14

25 Feb '14

After the latest writer upgrade (version 4.2.1-1), lowriter fails to run. I get the following error message when trying to start it from a console. /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtubeslo.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've googled the missing library and had no luck finding it and I've found no other bug reports any where. Downgrading to libreoffice-writer-4.1.5-1 cures the problem. Sorry for the noise. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] NetworkManager 0.9.8.8-2 does not work with systemd 208
by Austin Lund 24 Feb '14

24 Feb '14

After my last upgrade I noticed that the NetworkManager service was failing. The error message was that NetworkManager could not load because it couldn't find libsystemd.so.0. I'm running systemd 208-11. The unified systemd library is in 209, irrc. Systemd 209 isn't available in core yet, but nevertheless, the dependencies in NetworkManager should have been updated. Solution to the problem is to force NetworkManager to 0.9.8.8-1.

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 112, Issue 26
by Hugo Rabson 24 Feb '14

24 Feb '14

> On Feb 22, 2014, at 22:48, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > > Are you trying to build a full-featured Live desktop environment for > chromebooks? I'm thinking about it, but I'm not sure if it's needed. I've written one script to generate an ArchLinux|ARM bootable USB/SD card-based installation; another, to generate a Debian installation. In each case, it goes from shell command to usable installation in about half an hour. It works for the Samsung Chromebook (ARM 7-based). It might work for other ARM-based systems; I don't know. In each case, the OS is installed on an external device, which means it is awfully close to being a "live CD" (not a CD, but you get the point). The principal advantage of a 'live' device would be non-permanence of user data. I've had a look at porting Tails to the ARM platform. It would be nontrivial, but it could be done. Still, I'm happier with the idea of working with ArchLinux, not Debian (or Tails). ArchLinux's kernel sources are available and easy to modify (by me), whereas I've had no luck with Debian's kernel. If the root partition of the device is encrypted, do we really need it to be 'live' at all? Does anyone actually want a live version of ArchLinux for ARM systems, or would a freely available and easy-to-build-at-home external SD card or thumb drive do? What is the problem we're trying to solve? Depending on our objective - privacy, disaster recovery, or merely mucking about with a Chromebook without nuking its internal drive - we might not need the live capability. Comments? -Hugo

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[arch-general] How to reboot remotely without hanging ssh session?
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '14

23 Feb '14

Guys, I remote administer one arch server and after moving to systemd I haven't found a way to reboot without hanging the ssh session. Prior to system, we could simply pass the shutdown command via ssh and the ssh session would complete/close before reboot took place: i.e. $ ssh remote.host.org "sudo shutdown -r now" However with systemd, using "systemctl reboot" the ssh session hangs until the remote host reboot or a timeout occurs. Is there a better way to reboot a remote server and avoid this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] nginx in a linux container
by arnaud gaboury 23 Feb '14

23 Feb '14

Hi all, I have a running container managed by systemd-nspawn. I want now install/set up nginx inside it, following Arch wiki. gab@dahlia ➤➤ ~ # mkdir $JAIL/dev mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/srv/hhtp/dev’: No such file or directory <<<<< ??? gab@dahlia ➤➤ ~ % ls -al / drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4.0K May 31 2013 srv/ gab@dahlia ➤➤ ~ % ls -al /srv drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K May 31 2013 http/ Where do this issue comes form ? Thank you for help

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[arch-general] Building a live USB version of ArchLinux for ARM users
by Hugo Rabson 23 Feb '14

23 Feb '14

Is anyone interested in working with me to build a live USB edition and/or hardened ArchLinux for ARM users (specifically, users of ARM-based chromebooks)? It would be nontrivial but achievable. The question is, would anyone find the product useful? -Hugo

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] systemd 209 in [testing]
by Leonid Isaev 21 Feb '14

21 Feb '14

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:24:39 +0100 Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Am 20.02.2014 17:33, schrieb Dave Reisner: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm working on packaging the systemd 209 release, and I expect to have > > pkgrel=1 into [testing] in a few hours, barring any unforseen problems. > > It's a huge release (nearly 2000 commits since 208), and I don't > > anticipate that this will make it into [core]. > > This version works fine on my desktop, but fails on my laptop. The > initramfs works fine. While booting up the system, systemd hangs and > this appears in the journal: > > systemd[1]: Assertion '(x->type == SOURCE_MONOTONIC && y->type == > SOURCE_MONOTONIC) || (x->type == SOURCE_REALTIME && y->type == > SOURCE_REALTIME)' failed at src/libsystemd/sd-event/sd-event.c:264, > function latest_time_prioq_compare(). Aborting. > systemd[1]: Caught <ABRT>, dumped core as pid 317. > > As long this is turning into a thread about newly introduced issues in systemd... Udev 209 now tries to rename (I guess) all interfaces, including virtual: $ journalctl -u systemd-udevd.service PRIORITY=3 -o cat Could not apply link config to br0 Could not apply link config to vethQEP978 Could not apply link config to vethDR7OA5 Could not apply link config to vethW1QM0I Could not apply link config to vethC4240S Those are bridge and veth interfaces created by lxc userspace tools (2 containers/2 ifaces per container). Is this intended? Thanks, -- Leonid Isaev GPG key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] Linux 3.13 status
by Thomas Bächler 20 Feb '14

20 Feb '14

Okay, it's been way too long. I don't really have the time to spend much time on the kernel right now, and neither does Tobias, so it's been sitting in [testing] for way too long. I am currently building 3.13.3-2 with a critical NFS fix and I intend to move that kernel to [core] very soon. Due to the keyboard changes, I'd like to make the following announcement: Linux 3.13 WARNING: PS/2 Keyboard support is now modular It has been requested that we make support for the i8042 keyboard and mouse controller modular. Some people get weird error messages because they don't have one and the manual probing slows down their boot. Tom took care of this on the kernel side (thank you) and the result finally landed in 3.13. In order to get keyboard input during early init, if you don't have it already, add the `keyboard` hook to the `HOOKS=` line in `/etc/mkinitcpio.conf`. It has been in the default configuration for some time. **WARNING**: There's a downside to all this: On some motherboards (mostly ancient ones, but also a few new ones), the i8042 controller cannot be automatically detected. It's rare, but some people will surely be without keyboard. You can detect this situation in advance: $ dmesg -t | grep ^i8042 i8042: PNP: No PS/2 controller found. Probing ports directly. If you have a PS/2 port and get this message, add `atkbd` to the `MODULES=` line in `mkinitcpio.conf` and run `mkinitcpio -P`. If you just noticed that you are without keyboard after rebooting, fear not! Simply add earlymodules=atkbd modules-load=atkbd to your kernel command line in your bootloader. I apologize for any inconvenience this transition may cause.

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[arch-general] Linux container with systemd-nspawn
by arnaud gaboury 20 Feb '14

20 Feb '14

Hi all, I run systemd-git I manage a arch container using systemd-nspawn facilities. I am still strugling with the tty story on the container. The container is running and $ machinectl status dahlia output is correct. This output thus puzzles me: gabx@hortensia ➤➤ systemd/system % sudo loginctl -M dahlia SESSION UID USER SEAT 1 1000 gab seat0 c1 0 root seat0 c2 1000 gab seat0 c3 1000 gab seat0 c4 1000 gab seat0 c5 1000 gab seat0 c6 1000 gab seat0 c7 1000 gab seat0 c8 1000 gab seat0 Now reading machinectl man page, I shall be able to open a terminal session to the container. gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ # machinectl login dahlia Failed to start getty service: Unit container-getty(a)0.service failed to load: No such file or directory. On the host, I # cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/container-getty@.service to /etc/systemd/system/. I am not sure it is needed. >From the systemd mailing list : "systemd-getty-generator" will now look for $container_ttys set as an environment variable for PID 1. If that is set it will split the string up on whitespaces and start a getty on all ptys referenced. Note that this only supports ptys, not any other ttys. Example: "container_ttys=pts/5 pts/8 pts/15" and about systemd 209 : * If the $container_ttys environment variable is set, getty-generator will automatically spawn a getty for each listed tty. This is useful for container managers to request login gettys to be spawned on as many ttys as needed. Where shall I write such environment variable ? /etc/systemd/system.conf ? Is part of the job done inside the container (it is running systemd 208-11) ? Thank you for help

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[arch-general] Installing Archlinux on a Panasonic toughbook U1
by Alfredo Palhares 19 Feb '14

19 Feb '14

Since my thread on the forums did not got very much attraction here it goes, I have a Panasonic Touchbook CF-U1 for those who not to care to read the link its a rugged small pc with an Intel Atom in it. The machine will have 2 main uses: - Replace the laptop on my garage, (i like to mess with mechanic stuff on my spare time, mostly offroad machines) it will be used to view some pdf (service manuals and whatnot) and use tunning software and logic analizyer so on, i would be running it on an external keyboard. - Onboard computer on my offroad truck, I plan to use the GPS for navigation proposes and as data logger of the engine Electronic managemnte system. And maybe some light work on those sunny days where I feel like working outside (have you tried using your laptop on the sunlight ? it sucks). I am a tiller wm lover (DWM and AwesomeWM) but I don't think a tller would be the most idicated, I would love a mix of normal wm with a touchscreen friendly interface. Something like the Asus EEE pc 701 (the first one) had that modded Ice VW menu. I did not tried to install the system yet, but I started the live disk, and these are my first toughts: - Wireless works out of the box - Fn key does not work (extremely necessary) - Dual battery leds do not work, it does not show which battery is using, it shows the led that is connected to the AC power, the batterie management seems to work fine tough. - The accessorie keys do not work, altough I think i can fix that with setkeycodes, not really important right now. I will use full system encryption according to the wiki, just because I want to, that should be a problem. I want to collect as much information as possible before tackling the installation. Please drop your opinions or links to any information you might think its useful Some links: http://www.emperorlinux.com/mfgr/panasonic/ant/ - A company that seels this devices with linux pre installed, altough it does not document the installation, nor do I think they're still in business, since I did not get any reply from them. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=201018 - Old thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVdAYgt4B9g - A video of it running ubuntu, so its possible, but again i dont find any documentation. http://forum.notebookreview.com/panason … cf-u1.html -- Regards, Alfredo Palhares

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[arch-general] What file provides the links shown by Firefox's "speed dial"
by Ralf Mardorf 19 Feb '14

19 Feb '14

Hi, from backups I want to find former links that were shown by Firefox's "speed dial" (or what ever it's named) and that never where pinned. Before I search backups, I want to know where to find the entries in the current Firefox files. I had no success when taking a look at e.g. $ sqlitebrowser ~/.mozilla/firefox/ihwxvng5.default/places.sqlite Does anybody know where to look? Does anybody know a sqlite browser that could sort moz_places and other data by anything else instead of the id? Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] ThinkPad LEDs
by Sergey Manucharian 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

Hi folks, Does anybody know what's happened with ThinkPad LEDs control? I used to use the /proc/acpi/ibm/led interface to control LEDs, but now (just installed Archlinux on a T430) I see that only 2 LEDs work, trying to control others brings up "No such device" message. The working LEDs are: 0 - the power button, 7 - the moon symbol. Kernel: 3.12.9-2. Thanks for ideas! Sergey

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[arch-general] Arch Linux wiki unavailable ?
by John WH Smith 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

Hello everyone, Sorry to bother you, but is it me, or is Alderaan no longer providing HTTP/HTTPs service ? I cannot access the Arch Linux wiki anymore, and it doesn't seem to be related to my network configuration (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wiki.archlinux.org) Have I missed some maintenance announcement, or something similar ? Apologies for the inconvenience, if it is the case. JWHS.

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[arch-general] New Installation
by Toyam Cox 16 Feb '14

16 Feb '14

Hey folks, I mostly use Gentoo but I'm installing Arch on my laptop, so hello! I'm installing GRUB, an I'm getting an error: grub-install: waring: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. Then Grub refuses to go ahead with blocklists. Any thoughts? It isn't a UEFI computer... it's a netbook. Thank you! -- - Toyam

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[arch-general] libvirt / lxc : no valid cgroup for machine
by arnaud gaboury 16 Feb '14

16 Feb '14

Dear list, I am bulding a VM using libvirt and lxc for linux container. I have an issue with my cgroups settings: gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ # virsh start dahlia error: Failed to start domain dahlia error: internal error: No valid cgroup for machine dahlia My environement: Host : Arch Linux - systemd 208-11, libvirt 1.2.1-4 guest : Arch Linux , machine name : dahlia , /etc/libvirt/lxc/dahlia.xml , mounted in /dahlia My set up so far : - gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % sudo virsh uri [sudo] password for root: lxc:/// - gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ # virsh -c lxc:/// list --all Id Name State ------------------------------ ---------------------- - dahlia shut off - custom kernel with user space set gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % zgrep USER_NS /proc/config.gz CONFIG_USER_NS=y - /etc/libvirt/lxc/dahlia.xml $ ls -al -rw------- 1 root root 1.1K Feb 15 12:11 /etc/libvirt/lxc/dahlia.xml $ cat <domain type='lxc'> <name>dahlia</name> <uuid>a34b58db-894f-4f4a-81f0-b13d2d5d7732</uuid> <memory unit='KiB'>409600</memory> <currentMemory unit='KiB'>409600</currentMemory> <vcpu placement='static'>1</vcpu> <resource> <partition>/machine/dahlia</partition> </resource> <os> <type arch='x86_64'>exe</type> <init>/bin/init</init> </os> <idmap> <uid start='0' target='1000' count='10'/> <gid start='0' target='1000' count='10'/> </idmap> <clock offset='utc'/> <on_poweroff>destroy</on_poweroff> <on_reboot>restart</on_reboot> <on_crash>destroy</on_crash> <devices> <emulator>/usr/lib/libvirt/libvirt_lxc</emulator> <interface type='network'> <mac address='52:54:00:89:8f:1a'/> <source network='default'/> </interface> <console type='pty'> <target type='lxc' port='0'/> </console> </devices> </domain> - fstab : UUID=f69d032f-c80f-4f2e-84cd-d2328a862818 /dahlia ext4 defaults,relatime,discard 0 1 $ ls -al drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4.0K Feb 11 21:41 dahlia/ - /etc/cgconfig: group dahlia { perm { # who can manage limits admin { uid = 1000; gid = 1004; } # who can add task task { uid = 1000; gid = 1004; } } # create this group in the controllers cpu { } cpuset { } memory { } devices { } freezer { } net_cls { } blkio { } } - /etc/cgrules is the default one, so everything is commented. Maybe shall I edit a line ?? - gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ # cat /proc/cgroups #subsys_name hierarchy num_cgroups enabled cpuset 3 5 1 cpu 4 4 1 cpuacct 4 4 1 memory 5 5 1 devices 6 4 1 freezer 7 5 1 net_cls 8 5 1 blkio 9 4 1 - gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % systemctl status machine-dahlia.slice machine-dahlia.slice - dahlia VM slice Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/machine-dahlia.slice; static) Active: active since Sat 2014-02-15 11:53:01 CET; 15min ago Feb 15 11:53:01 hortensia systemd[1]: Starting dahlia VM slice. Feb 15 11:53:01 hortensia systemd[1]: Created slice dahlia VM slice. My systemd unit file machine-dahlia.slice in /etc/systemd/system. I am able to boot the container this way: # systemd-nspawn -bD /dahlia Apologize for the long post, but I wanted to detail everything. Thank you for help on my cgroups set up. -- google.com/+arnaudgabourygabx

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[arch-general] Updating the archlinux-keyring package
by Leonid Isaev 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Hi, Recently I had to fix a corrupted pacman db from a 3 month old livecd and realized that this process is not so innocent. Specifically, there is a chance to get a trojaned package on the system simply because the archlinux-keyring package on the iso is outdated. Of course, other similar scenarios are possible, e.g. a fresh install is made from an old livecd, or a server is updated after several months of uptime: new packages are pulled in but signature checks are made using the old keyring currently on the host. So, instead of relying on the discrete updates of archlinux-keyring, wouldn't is make more sense to have a systemd timer/cron job to frequently refresh pacman keyring? Thanks, -- Leonid Isaev GPG key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] Vim configuration: custom runtimepath + ftdetect
by Jakub Klinkovský 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

I have moved ~/.vim to ~/.config/vim, the configuration is as follows: in ~/.profile: export VIMINIT='let $MYVIMRC="$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/vim/vimrc" | source $MYVIMRC' in ~/.config/vim/vimrc: set viminfo+=n$XDG_CACHE_HOME/vim/viminfo set runtimepath=$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/vim,$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/vim/after,$VIM,$VIMRUNTIME Now, the thing is that files from ~/.config/vim/ftdetect/ are not respected. On the other hand, if I create ~/.vim/ftdetect/ (leaving the vimrc and everything else under ~/.config), the files are correctly sourced. Is this a bug or am I missing something here? According to ':help ftdetect' the runtimepath should be respected. For completeness: I have vim-hg-7.4.179 installed, the PKGBUILD is here: https://github.com/lahwaacz/archlinux-dotfiles/blob/master/Build/vim-hg/PKG… Thanks, -- jlk

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[arch-general] KDE breakage with glibc 2.19-2
by Paul Gideon Dann 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Is anyone else seeing breakage of KDE compositing with glibc 2.19-2? Large areas are unrendered: window contents and the plasma desktop are black, although my panel is visible. Seems OK when I turn of compositing. I've tried going back and forth, and it's definitely the glibc update that's causing the issue for me. Anyone else? Paul

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[arch-general] Systemd email notifications
by Paul Gideon Dann 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Hello all, Does anyone know of any standard system for receiving notifications from systemd for unit state changes? I currently use Monit for the monitoring of many processes, and it'll e-mail me when things happen (e.g. a process was restarted). Since switching to systemd, it's felt a bit silly that for several processes, I'm having Monit monitor them simply because systemd is unable to tell me it restarted a unit. Monit isn't actually required to keep those processes alive as it once was, because systemd can do that. Paul

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[arch-general] Linux container
by arnaud gaboury 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

Dear all, I am slowly building a Arch Linux VM guest on my Arch Linux host. The guest machine is now built and is recognized as shown by this command : gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % machinectl list MACHINE CONTAINER SERVICE dahlia container nspawn 1 machines listed. I an following the libvirt.org documentation. Now, according this page[1] about lxc driver, i am dealing with namespace requirements. This sentence, in bold, puzzles me: A suitably configured UID/GID mapping is a pre-requisite to making containers secure, in the absence of sVirt confinement. If I understand what a namespace is, I have no idea how to make sure my UIG/GID mapping is well configured. I would appreciate having any hints abut this part of the settings. Another question : is there any advantage/disadvantage using the lxc Userspace tools[2] instead of libvirt to manage these namespaces ? Thank you for help. [1]http://libvirt.org/drvlxc.html [2]http://linuxcontainers.org/

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[arch-general] "Automatic" upgrade
by Ismael Bouya 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hi, I know it is highly discouraged and that it can break the machine, but I have a good reason to do it anyway: It's highly unpractical to me to access the machine from where I am -- even remotely: I need someone to manually open a tunnel each time I want to access the machine --, and the other person who has root access to the machine doesn't think of doing the upgrade regularly: Last upgrade was 2 months ago, despite regular reminders. However I want to do it the best way: - Check that the Arch news didn't change - ssh is run as a service and not a socket (it's a headless machine) - Ignore ssh, linux, grub upgrades - Transmit the log by email (I *will* read it) - Send by email the list that will be upgraded before doing the upgrade Anything else I should check before running an automatic upgrade? Any other advice? Thanks in advance for any advice! Best regards, -- Ismaël

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[arch-general] Arch VM + QEMU/KVM + libvirt + Systemd
by arnaud gaboury 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Dear all, I have been reading and working hard these past few days to set up a Arch VM guest on my Arch host. The guest partition is on /dev/sdc and mounted on my root partition as /dahlia (name of the machine). First question : is this Ok or shall I instead use /machine/dahlia as container directory. Then, this partition is mounted twice indeed. One time on my host fstab as /dahlia and a second time on my guest fstab as /. It sounds to me redundant. Then I installed Arch with pacstrap on /dahlia. No bootloader but Linux (i will remove the last one later as I want to share the kernel with the host). After many errors due to some missing libs, installation went fine. I managed everything about cgroups, even spent hours on /etc/cgconfig.conf which is not mandatory since systemd 205. I can see a dahlia folder in all controllers (sys/fs/cgroup/$CONTROLLER-NAME). As for systemd, I enabled cgconfig , libvirt-guest.service and systemd-machined.service gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ % systemctl status systemd-machined.service systemd-machined.service - Virtual Machine and Container Registration Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-machined.service; static) Active: active (running) since Tue 2014-02-11 08:09:25 CET; 12min ago Docs: man:systemd-machined.service(8) http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/machined Main PID: 980 (systemd-machine) CGroup: /system.slice/systemd-machined.service └─980 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-machined Feb 11 08:09:25 hortensia systemd[1]: Starting Virtual Machine and Container Registration Service... Feb 11 08:09:25 hortensia systemd[1]: Started Virtual Machine and Container Registration Service. Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full. Now comes the tricky part : registering my container with slice mechanism. $ machine ctl returns empty. /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/machine.slice directory contains nothing about dahlia container. gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ # systemd-nspawn -M /dahlia Invalid machine name: /dahlia gabx@hortensia ➤➤ ~ # systemd-nspawn -bD /dahlia Spawning namespace container on /dahlia (console is /dev/pts/1). Init process in the container running as PID 1208. execv() failed: No such file or directory Container failed with error code 1. I put a machine-dahlia.slice unit file in /etc/systemd/system, but I am not sure it is enough. I read I shall register the container with logind, but no idea how. How can I register my container for systemd to recognize it ? Shall I use the usual way with libvirt and virsh ? Thank you for help in such a tricky set up. --

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[arch-general] Forum registration requires INSANE captcha.
by Feliz Xett 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hi all! I hope it's ok to bother this list with this question/suggestion/rant about the forum registration process. I've been using arch for a couple of months now and I'm very happy with it. Today, I somewhat broke my box so I was excited to post my first question to the forums at bbs.archlinux.org. On the bottom of the registration page there was a very clever "captcha". The question was: What is the output of "date -u +%V$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"? I might even have found this funny if I wasn't ON A NON-LINUX LAPTOP. <rant> I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. To be honest I am extremely annoyed because this barrier is so unnecessary. Why is there not just a simple normal captcha that helps Google with house numbers or something. It looks to me like someone wanted to demonstrate that whoever is not able to find the solution to *such* a simple question is not worthy of the forums. Only they failed to consider that possibly there might be situations where even the cleverest person just *can't* find the solution to a question like this. </rant> Could this please please please be replaced with a real captcha? Also, this is obviously absolutely unsuitable to tell computers and humans apart (if that's what was intended), considering that the result only changes once a week and any unix machine could easily calculate the result. Aaanyway. Could someone please give me the solution? I'd still like to join the forums once I calmed down :) FE

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[arch-general] Permanently allow root access
by piruthiviraj natarajan 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

I want to run root X application in a terminal. [root@archbox ~]# smplayer smplayer: cannot connect to X server [root@archbox ~]# I followed the wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Running_X_apps_as_root added export XAUTHORITY=/home/archie/.Xauthority to /etc/profile. After this I am not able to login with my user account archie through gdm. Deleting the added line to /etc/profile let me log back in. How can I get this thing working as I wish? I definitely don't prefer the method given under temporarily allow root access as per the wiki page, since in other distribution I can start the X applications in a root terminal without a hitch. I would like to start root X applications in a terminal.

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Re: [arch-general] Permanently allow root access
by Martti Kühne 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hey guys I'll just throw my more local (than probably necessary) .bashrc function in here... sudo () { local env; if [[ -n "$DISPLAY" ]]; then command sudo "XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority" "$@"; else command sudo "$@"; fi } You don't give up on X11 cookies, you don't need to touch pam and can go on hoping it works in your favor, and thridly, there's even a mention of .Xauthority in the stock sudoers file, so, you'll never find where these things are set up on a running system anyway... cheers! mar77i

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[arch-general] journalctl and I/O errors
by Janna Martl 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

A couple months ago, I started getting I/O errors (see below) whenever I tried to do journalctl -n X for sufficiently large X (and journalctl would segfault). I assumed my hard drive was going to die, but in the mean time this was annoying so I did: # cp -rp /var/log/journal{,-clone} # rm -rf /var/log/journal # mv /var/log/journal{-clone,} There were a few errors after step 1 but this made the segfaulting stop. A few weeks later, same problem, same "fix". A few weeks later, ditto. In all this time, the only I/O errors I've ever seen have been related to accessing the journal. The SMART data for the drive says that the current pending sector count is 57, but the reallocated sector count is 0. So if I'm reading this correctly, there have been a bunch of instances of unreadable sectors, somehow only pertaining to one directory despite efforts to make an independent copy of the data (which should put it in random other sectors), but none of them have been confirmed bad. So at this point I'm guessing it's a systemd bug (and there are no actual bad sectors), but it would be great if someone could confirm that any of this actually makes sense before I file a bug report based on ignorance and speculation. Thanks! - J.M. ------------------------------------------- Example I/O error: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x5 ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT ata1.00: cmd 25/00:08:c8:ca:92/00:00:2e:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 4096 in res 51/40:05:cb:ca:92/40:00:2e:00:00/ee Emask 0x9 (media error) ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR } ata1.00: error: { UNC } ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled sense code sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] mResult: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08 sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] mSense Key : 0x3 [current] [descriptor] mDescriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex): 72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00 2e 92 ca cb sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] mASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x4 sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] CDB: mcdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 2e 92 ca c8 00 00 08 00 end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 781372107 ata1: EH complete

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[arch-general] No user sound - only root has access alsamixer on virtualbox?
by David C. Rankin 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

Guys, I've run into a problem with sound on a new archlinux guest install on virtualbox (v4.36). Only root can see/access the sound system. From the asla page, I've tried 'alsactl init' and I've also tried adding user to the audio group as mentioned in old forum pages, but still only root sees sound. The guest is a fully updated Arch install (with updates through today) Here are the details: As user: 19:46 valhalla:~> alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory 19:51 valhalla:~> cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [I82801AAICH ]: ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH Intel 82801AA-ICH with STAC9700,83,84 at irq 11 19:53 valhalla:~> lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 23757 0 snd_ac97_codec 89404 1 snd_intel8x0 ac97_bus 878 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm 63880 2 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0 snd_page_alloc 5978 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm snd_timer 14946 1 snd_pcm snd 44598 4 snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0,snd_timer,snd_pcm soundcore 4386 1 snd 20:00 valhalla:~> aplay -l aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found... 20:00 valhalla:~> aplay -L null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) pulse PulseAudio Sound Server default Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) As root: [20:01 valhalla:/home/david] # alsamixer (works fine) No protocol specified xcb_connection_has_error() returned true [20:02 valhalla:/home/david] # aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: I82801AAICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [20:02 valhalla:/home/david] # aplay -L null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) pulse PulseAudio Sound Server default Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server) sysdefault:CARD=I82801AAICH Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH Default Audio Device front:CARD=I82801AAICH,DEV=0 Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH Front speakers surround40:CARD=I82801AAICH,DEV=0 Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=I82801AAICH,DEV=0 Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=I82801AAICH,DEV=0 Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=I82801AAICH,DEV=0 Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers iec958:CARD=I82801AAICH,DEV=0 Intel 82801AA-ICH, Intel 82801AA-ICH IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output I have since removed the user from audio group since it didn't help. I cannot find a solution. Any thoughts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Problem with cups 1.71 when restart service
by Maykel Franco 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

Hi, I have problem with cups in arch. This is the log error_log the cups: E [04/Feb/2014:12:52:24 +0100] Unable to bind socket for address [v1.::1]:631 - Address already in use. E [04/Feb/2014:12:52:24 +0100] Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use. And the printing not works... Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] TDE binaries for pre-R14 testing are available (i686 & x86_64)
by David C. Rankin 02 Feb '14

02 Feb '14

Package for the Trinity Desktop upcoming R14 release are available for testing. These packages are within a few commits of what RC1 for the release will be. see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity Short version: pacman.conf (i686 or x86_64 as necessary): [trinity] SigLevel = Never Server = http://trinity.ceux.org/r14/x86_64 use meta-package "group" install: pacman -Sy group with "group" tde-core : minimal install - no koffice tde-extra : moderate install - with koffice tde-base : almost all of TDE pacman -Sl trinity to veiw complete list of packages available. Feedback directly to me or to http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/enter_bug.cgi?product=TDE -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] rsync-Mirrors
by Jens Arm 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Hi ArchLinux-Team Since about 27.1 there is the following error shown when trying to sync with rsync. I get this error with all rsync-Servers I tried: [snip] receiving file list ... symlink has no referent: "/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686/python-xlib-0.15rc1-6-any.pkg.tar.xz.sig" (in pub) 6282 files to consider IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion [snip] If I look at the homepage about this package it is a bit newer: python2-xlib 0.15rc1-7 Is syncing broken at the moment? Regards Jens

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[arch-general] Drop in the number of ArchWiki registered users
by Dario Giovannetti 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

I keep track of some ArchWiki statistics in [1] and I've just realized that in the last month we've had a 6000+ drop in the number of registered users, which is a number that should instead only increase, as we don't have tools for (mass) deleting accounts. Anybody knows what happened? In the month of January, 3 commits have been made to [2], two of which are updates to MediaWiki: maybe one of them caused the issue? [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ArchWiki:Maintenance_Team#Statistics [2] https://projects.archlinux.org/vhosts/wiki.archlinux.org.git/ -- Dario (Kynikos)

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[arch-general] Maintain arch linux installations
by Myra Nelson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

I'm searching for someone in the Central Texas Area (were in Brownwood) to help maintain two Arch Linux machines. These are personal machines in my home, one for me and one for my roommate. I'm no longer able to keep up due to a brain tumor. Even if it's not cancerous it's caused enough damage I've already made a mess of things and I'm not sure of the damage after it's removed. Shouldn't take much time, but my estimateds may not be worth much anymore. These are Openbox installations with no specific desktop environment. Linux gandalf 3.11.3-1-myra #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 1 12:28:13 CDT 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux Gnumeric for spreadsheet, and OOWriter for word processor. Myra Nelson -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg and $http_proxy?
by Magnus Therning 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

Hi all, It seems `http_proxy` isn't propagated into the chroot when building with `makechrootpkg`. Is there some way to configure it to do that? It stands out a bit since it looks like - mkarchroot - works fine with `http_proxy` - I manage to create a chroot just fine - arch-chroot - works fine with `http_proxy` - just running it and inspecting the environment shows it works /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

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[arch-general] Uninstalling single package from i686 archroot without cleaning
by David C. Rankin 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

All, The i686 archroot on the x86_64 box worked perfectly building i686 TDE. However, as I tweak packages, I need to 'uninstall' a package from the rw-layer without cleaning the entire archroot. Since this is i686 on a x86_64 box how do I properly chroot the archroot so that I can run pacman -R package name? Can I somehow: mount --bind some_dev $CHROOT/dev mount -t proc none $CHROOT/proc mount -t sysfs none $CHROOT/sys cd $CHROOT some_chroot_cmd So that the i686 system will be functional enough to remove a package? I have seen the Arch64_FAQ page discussing the linux32 wrapper working with i686 chroots created by installing with i686 ISO "quickinstall", but this setup is just an i686 archroot. (will it work?) I want to avoid cleaning the archroot or deleting and recreating a new one just to test minor changes to package content adjustments due the setup requiring several hundred dependencies and packages to rebuild. What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Is there a shortcut to defining PKGBUILD groups=() dependencies?
by David C. Rankin 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

All, For TDE I have several PKGBUILD groups for installation defined: tde-base : minimum possible install (up to tdebase) tde-core : 'tde-base' + common additional packages tde-dev : 'tde-core' + development bindings and packages tde-extra : 'tde-core' + additional desktop features tde-multimedia : 'tde-core' + all AV and CD/DVD apps (amarok, kaffeine, etc.) tde-complete : 'tde-extra' + all building packages I define what belongs in each group by including every group a package belongs to in the groups=() array. For example, if I want k3b included in every install except 'tde-base' I then just define the groups array for k3b as follows: groups=('tde-core' 'tde-dev' 'tde-extra' 'tde-multimedia' 'tde-complete') I am just wondering if a shortcut exits somewhere, like some meta-file that holds relationships between groups? Is there some way at the group level to some way to say group 'tde-base' automatically gets included when 'tde-core' is chosen and that 'tde-core' gets included when 'tde-extra' is chosen? I haven't found anything that says that, but I didn't entirely understand what some of the 'meta' packages for kde4 were doing and thought I would check. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Kernel 3.13
by Jonathan Hudson 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

When you upgrade to kernel 3.13, pacman considerately informs you that you must have a keyboard hook in mkinitcpio.conf. What you're not told is that if you have an AT keyboard, you also need to ensure that the atkbd module is loaded, otherwise you probably won't have a working keyboard on reboot. -jh

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[arch-general] Howto setup i686 archroot on x86_64 box? (not linux32 chroot)
by David C. Rankin 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

All, I have built all x86_64 packages in an archroot on my x86_64 box. I would like to set up and i686 archroot on the same box to build the i686 packages on the same box due to build times dropping from about 8 hours on i686 to less than 3 on the x86_64 box. I am unclear how best to do it -- or if it is doable. I've read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch64_FAQ about multilib with ~/.makepkg.i686.conf and a true linux32 chroot setup, but none of those are specific to the archroot setup. Both seem like they would work, but don't know if they are the right choice for build the 110 packages TDE requires. I would like to do this in an archroot if possible. I use the "Classic Way" of handling the build specified in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chro…. All dependency packages are installed in the rw layer of the chroot with the first package built, a [local] repo is created under $CHROOT/root/repo, and as packages are built, they are installed, the resulting package is copied to $CHROOT/root/repo, and the repo index is updated with repo-add, and the process repeats with the next package until the build of TDE is complete. (that chroot is usually used to finish and tweaks needed for that set of package, then deleted and a new archroot created for the next major set of updates) It seems like setting up another archroot, and installing multilib would allow an archroot to work, but how would you tell makechrootpkg to build the i686 version instead of the x86_64 version. I don't want to have to modify the PKGBUILDs or do a significant re-write of the build script that automates the build, but if it is as simple as changing the makechrootpkg call, that would be a simple config-file fix. How best to handle this? (or just use the old i686 box and run it overnight?) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] daemontools in official repositories
by Amit Aryeh Levy 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

Hi all, In 2007, djb's daemontools and djbdns packages was removed from the official repositories "burdensome" "license requirements for binary distribution" (https://www.archlinux.org/news/djbdns-and-daemontools-to-be-moved-to-unsupp…) However, at the end of that year (2007-12-28) djb released daemontools and djbdns into the public domain - http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html. Could we move daemontools and djbdns back into the official repositories from AUR? Cheers! Amit

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[arch-general] /usr/bin/makepkg: eval: line 2180: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `}'
by David C. Rankin 26 Jan '14

26 Jan '14

Guys, I have a build that completes successfully, but the package is empty (other than .PKGINFO and .MTREE). The build output contains the following: /usr/bin/makepkg: eval: line 2180: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `}' /usr/bin/makepkg: eval: line 2181: syntax error: unexpected end of file ==> Making package: tde-adept 14.0.0-1 (Fri Jan 24 19:41:55 CST 2014) ==> Retrieving sources... -> Found applications-adept.tar.gz ==> Validating source files with md5sums... applications-adept.tar.gz ... Passed /usr/bin/makepkg: eval: line 2180: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `}' /usr/bin/makepkg: eval: line 2181: syntax error: unexpected end of file I have checked forums, etc. and this usually means you have missed a closing ' or " somewhere in the pkgbuild and it is causing problems in makepkg. I have checked the pkgbuild closely and run namcap and it doesn't report any problems. Is there something obvious below, or is this a bug? The PKGBUILD is: # Maintainer: David C. Rankin <drankinatty at gmail dot com> pkgname=tde-adept pkgver=14.0.0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="TDE adept Advanced Package Management Tool - Trinity upstream GIT version" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/${pkgname#*-}" license=('GPL') groups=('tde-dev' 'tde-complete') depends=('tde-tdebase') makedepends=('pkgconfig' 'autoconf') # optdepends=() provides=("${pkgname#*-}") options=('staticlibs' 'libtool' '!emptydirs') # install='pkgname.install' source=("applications-${pkgname#*-}.tar.gz") md5sums=('4beffd7764446ae737e70c36084bdc4e') build() { cd ${srcdir} ## Set up environment msg "Setting PATH, Trinity Environment variables" # Source the QT and TDE profile [ "$QTDIR" = "" ] && . /etc/profile.d/tqt3.sh # or tqt3.sh [ "$TDEDIR" = "" ] && . /etc/profile.d/trinity.sh # or tde.sh ## Generate config files and update with autoreconf cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname#*-} msg "Copying system libtool files...." cp /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4 ./admin/libtool.m4.in cp /usr/share/libtool/config/ltmain.sh ./admin msg "Running make -f admin/Makefile.common ...." make -f admin/Makefile.common ## configure msg "Configuring - ${pkgname}..." ./configure \ --prefix=${TDEDIR} \ --with-qt-dir=${QTDIR} \ --with-qt-includes=${QTDIR}/include \ --with-qt-libraries=${QTDIR}/lib \ --with-extra-includes="/usr/include/tqt:/usr/include/tqt/Qt" \ --with-extra-libs=${TDEDIR}/lib/trinity \ --sysconfdir=${TDEDIR}/etc \ --localstatedir=/var \ --enable-debug=full msg "Building - ${pkgname}..." make $NUMJOBS } package() { msg "Packaging - $pkgname-$pkgver" cd "${srcdir}/${pkgname#*-}" make -j1 DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install } -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?
by Ralf Mardorf 26 Jan '14

26 Jan '14

Hi, a short question but a long story, perhaps somebody could give some hints. To stop a green drive spinning up and down again and again I removed gvfs from my machine, but each time I used K3b seemingly a KDE thingy makes my drive spin up and down again and again until I reboot. Is anybody aware if developers of desktop environments care about things like green drives, optional vs hard dependencies? I also noticed that if using a desktop environment's GUI editor as root this could cause serious issues nowadays. Am I the only one who tries to get rid of desktop environments and the software, such as the desktop environment's editors? I'm experimenting with getting rid of Xfce and I'm testing Jwm at the moment, but generating the menu is PITA and to find good replacements for editors, file browsers etc. isn't easy. Does anybody know burning software that is nearly as comfortable as K3b is, but that doesn't need GNOME or KDE dependencies? Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Deploy Arch linux to many virtual machines
by Кравец Роман 24 Jan '14

24 Jan '14

Hello! Could you please me. Me need install very much virtual machines with Arch linux. In Centos I can use kickstart and put in parameter on boot over PXE. How I can make auto-installation over PXE in Arch?

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[arch-general] python-dbus upgrade 1.20-2 fails
by Mark Lee 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Salutations, Upgrading from python-dbus-1.20-1 to 1.20-2 on Arch Linux 64 bit fails with the following error: ------ error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_compat.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_dbus.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_expat_introspect_parser.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_version.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/bus.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/connection.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/decorators.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/exceptions.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/lowlevel.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/proxies.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/service.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/types.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/mainloop/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem python-dbus: /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/mainloop/__pycache__/glib.cpython-33.pyc exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. ------ Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] Initial build of TDE R14 without hal dependency - Complete
by David C. Rankin 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

All, The initial update and build of the Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) upcoming R14.0.0 release is complete without hal dependency. (x86_64 packages) We will need to locate server space to host initial packages for testing. See the list of completed packages here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Complete_packages_.28current.29 Current size requirements for the packages is 301M. If you have server space available, please contact me directly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Does something in makepkg now remove '*.a' files automatically during package?
by David C. Rankin 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

All, This may be ridiculous, if so I apologize in advance, but something is stripping 'lib*.a' files from completed packages between the time of calling package() and the final package being compressed. Building tdelibs, the following files are produced and installed by package() in ${pkgdir}: /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14 /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la The PKGBUILD options are: options=('libtool' '!makeflags' '!strip') The package() function is: package() { msg "Packaging - $pkgname-$pkgver" cd ${srcdir}/build make -j1 DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install } The trinity-tdelibs.install is: post_install() { ldconfig &> /dev/null } post_upgrade() { post_install } post_remove() { post_install } I know libtdefakes_nonpic.a and libtdefakes_pic.a were installed by make -j1 DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install from the build log: -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14.0.0 -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14 -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so -- Installing: /build/tde-tdelibs/pkg/tde-tdelibs/opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la However, the '.a' files are not present in the final tdelibs package: tar -tJf tde-tdelibs-14.0.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz | grep tdefakes tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword 'SCHILY.fflags' opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14.0.0 opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.14 opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la So both /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a and /opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a were at some point stripped from the final package. How did they get removed from the package? What did it? If I'm just being dense, sorry for the noise, but a polite pointing to a link or some explanation would greatly be appreciated. I also know that this stripping of '.a' files did NOT occur a year or so ago, because tdelibs packages built with the same PKGBUILD contain the missing files: tar -tJf tde-tdelibs-3.5.14_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz | grep tdefakes tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.fflags' opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_pic.a opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes_nonpic.a opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.la opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.4 opt/trinity/lib/libtdefakes.so.4.2.0 What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Updated TDE build underway for Arch (hal no longer required)
by David C. Rankin 19 Jan '14

19 Jan '14

All, I am in the process of updating the build scripts for TDE for the upcoming release of R14 which is the first full release of TDE that eliminated dependency on hal. The official release of R14 should occur within the next two weeks. Time permitting, we should have all PKGBUILDS for TDE on arch complete by mid-February. I am updating https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity as time permits. TDE will install in /opt/trinity. If you have any suggestion or pointers for the build or if you are interested in the project, feel free to contact me directly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] namcap - project in /opt, custom rules file - base on elffiles.py or rpath.py?
by David C. Rankin 18 Jan '14

18 Jan '14

Guys, I am trying to learn how to create custom rules for checking tde packages installed in /opt. I would like to create a custom rules file that would allow use of namecap -e elfpaths,rpath -r tdepaths and have it verify files placed in valid directories. I have looked at elffiles.py and rpath.py as templates, but not coding in python, I don't know which would serve as the best template, or if it matters. It looks like elffiles.py validates file/binary locations with rpath.py handles libraries. I've looked at the Namcap wiki and still have questions. Would one (elffiles.py or rpath.py) be better than the other for this purpose or should I build a custom rule from each. New to namecap, that's why I'm asking. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] difference between arch-nspawn and mkarchroot?
by David C. Rankin 17 Jan '14

17 Jan '14

Devs, DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot notes that updating the chroot is now done by: arch-nspawn $CHROOT/root pacman -Syu instead of mkarchroot -u $CHROOT/root Checking the help for both files I note (1) the -u option is dropped from mkarchroot, and (2) the help output for both arch-nspawn and mkarchroot are identical. So what is the difference between the two? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Xen VGA passthrough unbind VGA from nouveau
by Dimitris Zervas 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

Hello, I am on latest kernel 3.12.6-1-ARCH with xen 4.3.1-2 with an i7-3820 and Asus P9X79 Deluxe with 16GB ram. I have 2 graphics cards, an EVGA 9800GT and an Asus GTX660 Ti. I want to passthrough the 660 to a win 7 domain. The problem is that whatever I do (pciback or pci-stub), nouveau detects the 660 normally and when I try to unbind it throws up a kernel panic. What I did with pci-stub: added pci-stub to Modules in mkinitcpio added pci-stub.ids=my:id With pciback: The same steps with pci-stub... A solution is to blacklist nouveau, but I want X server running on my 9800 (Arch on two monitors and windows to the other). Another problem I faced when I blacklisted nouveau, is that the domain is created, but I can only see output on VNC and not on the attached monitor, but it could be that I booted from windows CD (not installed system). not sure. I would be glad if anyone has advice on how to make xen work with nvidia propriety drivers (for 3d acceleration), but that's not my main problem right now. I think that a lot of people have run to the same problem (but googling did not help....), and that's why I'm using the mailing list. Thank you.

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[arch-general] on reboot: systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs - hung (hard reset required)
by David C. Rankin 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

All, After doing a system update today, I rebooted. The system hung on reboot requiring a hard reset. It has never done this in the past (20 or so reboots). Checking through the log I find: Jan 16 12:43:19 phoinix systemd[1]: Stopping system-netctl.slice. Jan 16 12:43:19 phoinix systemd[1]: Removed slice system-netctl.slice. Jan 16 12:43:19 phoinix mysqld[311]: 140116 12:43:19 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 7507539 Jan 16 12:43:20 phoinix mysqld[311]: 140116 12:43:20 [Note] /usr/bin/mysqld: Shutdown complete Jan 16 12:43:20 phoinix systemd[1]: Stopped MariaDB database server. Jan 16 12:44:03 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:09 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:19 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:20 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:22 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:23 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:24 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:26 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:36 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. Jan 16 12:44:38 phoinix systemd[1]: Started Generate shutdown-ramfs. -- Reboot -- So the box hung on shutdown at 12:44:03 and it just sat there until I did a hard reset (pushed the reset button). Has anybody experienced a similar hang on reboot? I welcome suggestions since this box is at a remote location and I need to insure a clean remote reboot. What else to check? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] libgcrypt.so.20 missing
by Mark E. Lee 16 Jan '14

16 Jan '14

Salutations! After an upgrade of my entire system, I am now unable to install packages or run any programs that depend on libgcrypt. I get the following error : libgrypt.so.20 not found. Looking at my pacman logs it seems that This error appeared after an update to pth (2.0.7-4 -> 2.0.7-5). I've downgraded the package but it doesn't seem to solve the issue. Regards, Mark -- Mark E. Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] libgsf 1.14.28-1 - bug - gsf-libxml.h:26:25: fatal error
by David C. Rankin 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

All, Is this a bug or is it me. Looks like a bug in libgsf 1.14.28-1 in the header file: /usr/include/libgsf-1/gsf/gsf-libxml.h If you attempt to include this header file you receive the error: /usr/include/libgsf-1/gsf/gsf-libxml.h:26:25: fatal error: libxml/tree.h: No such file or directory #include <libxml/tree.h> ^ compilation terminated. Example: #include <stdio.h> #include <libxml/tree.h> void main (int argc, char *argv[]) { printf("testing include\n"); } 17:01 phoinix:/dat_e/tde/tstbld/tmp> gcc -o tst tst.c tst.c:3:25: fatal error: libxml/tree.h: No such file or directory #include <libxml/tree.h> ^ compilation terminated. If someone will confirm this is a bug and not me being dense -- I'll file it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Mirrors out of date
by Mark Lee 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Salutations, Pardon me but does anyone know how mirrors are synced and flagged out of date? Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] Is out of source building still recommended with cmake in PKGBUILD scripts
by David C. Rankin 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

All, Updating PKGBUILDs as specified in VCS_PKGBUILD_Guidelines, I have a svn based source that builds with cmake. In the past I have forced out of source building for all cmake built packages. e.g.: build() { cd $srcdir msg "Creating out-of-source build directory: ${srcdir}/${_builddir}" mkdir -p build cd build msg "Starting cmake..." cmake ${srcdir}/blah \ <snip> msg "Building - $pkgname..." make } In https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VCS_PKGBUILD_Guidelines it specifies that "The local repo is left untouched, thus invalidating the need for a -build directory." Am I reading this correctly to say - "creating a separate out-of-source build directory is no longer required -- even for cmake built packages?" Or am I just confused again... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] How stable are the new version number formats on eg. filesystem, usbutils, etc.
by David C. Rankin 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

All, Updating different minimum dependency package version info for tde PKGBUILDs, I note there have been a number of 'version number format' changes for various packages. E.g.: filesystem 0.x.y-z ==> 2013.05-2 usbutils 0.x.y-z ==> 006-1 There is a big difference going from filesystem>=0.7.3 to filesystem>=2013. When I run across packages like this where the version has changed format -- Are they likely going to stay with the new format? Or will they likely revert back to major.minor-rel numbers at some time? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Ruby gem packages in Arch
by Anatol Pomozov 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hi everyone I manage a lot of Ruby packages (~230) in AUR, updated ~150 of them recently. I would like to share my experience with herding these packages. Some of the issues might be similar to other language package systems (cpan, pip, nodejs). First it worth mention that Ruby has its own packages manager (rubygems). It is the standard and nearly all ruby software distributed via rubygems. Rubygems has its package specification that includes information like project homepage, developer contacts, license, information about native dependencies. It makes sense to parse those specifications and use it for PKGBUILD maintenance. The idea is to have a script that will create ruby packages, will bump versions, update dependencies if needed. And this scriptability is important - copy/pasting ruby gems information is boring and error-prone. There are several scripts that perform gem->arch conversion and I work on one of them called 'gem2arch' [1]. >From other side rubygems differ from pacman that sometimes make it harder to match packages. The main difference is that rubygems has very flexible dependency mechanism. Several versions of a package can be installed at the same time. Another package can specify custom dependency restriction. It can depend on a specific version e.g. '=4.0.2' or it can ask for a range of versions, or any crazy set of restrictions like 'provide me package FOO with version between 2.3 and 3.1.4 but excluding 2.8 and 3.0.2'. The most popular type of dependency restriction is 'approximately greater' aka '~>'. '~>3.0.3' means 'give me package with version 3.0.XXX where XXX equal or larger than 3'. '~>' is quite popular mechanism to stick to a specific version range with stable API. Because rubygem can have several versions of the package installed such restrictions do not block other packages from using more recent versions. Thus package FOO might use version 2.x while BAR uses 3.x and everyone is happy. This dependency mechanism is different from the Arch where the preferred form of dependency is 'use HEAD version'. Several versions can be installed in Arch by adding version suffix to the package name e.g. ruby1.8 or apachae2.2. But versioned packages is an exception rather than rule in Arch. In rubygems using non-HEAD version is normal and widely-used practice. ~20% of my ruby packages are versioned one, e.g. ruby-rail-2 ruby-tilt-1. ruby-rails-2 means the latest version of rails 2.xx and ruby-tilt-1 is the latest version of tilt 1.yy. Dependency version calculation might be tricky in case of complex dependency restrictions, e.g. foo-2.2.1 might be either 'foo', 'foo-2', 'foo-2.2' or 'foo-2.2.1' depending on what other released version 'foo' has. Doing these calculations manually might be tricky but thanks to 'gem2arch' it makes things easier. In general adding/updating packages is a simple task (thanks to gem2arch). Only small number of packages require custom modifications like source patching or adding native dependencies. Emphasizing importance of scripting I would like to mention a rule that makes scripting harder. Ruby language page [3] says "For libraries, use ruby-$gemname. For applications, use the program name". How to calculate this rule in a script? Is a file in /usr/bin enough to tell that this is an app? Actually a lot of the ruby libraries can be used both as command-line application and a library (rake, rdoc, rubygems, erubis, nokogiri, ....) it is safe to tell that all packages in rubygems are libraries. If so I propose to change this rule to "all ruby packages should be named ruby-$gemname". Other ruby users like this idea [2]. Also some maintainers try to make package names nicer and do not follow "ruby-$gemname" rule. For example 'rubyirc' gem was packed as ruby-irc Arch package. It is harder for a script to match the gem to this package. Also there was a problem when another gem called 'irc' appeared, this one is actually should be used for 'ruby-irc' package. So I propose another rule for Ruby (and other languages) - follow 'ruby-$gemname' even if gemname already contains a mention of 'ruby'. To negative side of ruby packaging in AUR I can add bad situation with inactive maintainers. The ruby packages are spread over many maintainers most of which are inactive and do not update packages. Ruby packages in AUR stay out-of-date for many months. In general I think that for an active ruby development that does not require Arch dependencies 'gem installed in $HOME' is better way to go. [1] https://github.com/anatol/gem2arch [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Ruby_Gem_Package_Guidelines [3] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ruby_Gem_Package_Guidelines

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[arch-general] connman conflicts
by Curtis Shimamoto 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

I was wondering why connman conflicts with openresolv. Looking through the files in each package, there don't seem to be any in common. So I figure there must be something that I am missing or just completely unaware of. I am primarily a connman user, but I use connman-git from the AUR, both because it seems to be in pretty active development and because it does not have as many of the features that I don't need built into it. In the AUR, connman-git does not conflict with openresolv. So I am kind of wondering if it should. I like having netctl on my machine as well, but if this poses some kind of risk or true conflict somehow, I would just like to know if I should make a decision between one or the other. Thanks. -- Curtis Shimamoto

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[arch-general] Failure to resume on kernel >3.9.9
by Patrick Burroughs (Celti) 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hi list, I realise this email comes with a deplorable paucity of informaton, but I haven't found *any* logs relating to this event. I also realise I've waited what may be considered overlong to ask for help, but I was hoping the bug would be fixed in a later kernel release and it wasn't. Google has failed me, so now I come to you for help. My laptop is an HP Pavilion g7. The system suspends normally, but fails to resume leaving a powered-off screen and no responsiveness to keyboard input, including the magic sysrq, but the caps lock light turns on and off. At first I suspected fglrx, but it happens with or without fglrx loaded, and with or without nomodeset on the kernel command line. Further, it happens identically inside or outside of X. I tried git-bisect on the kernel but gave up after many hours of compiling and testing — anyone know of a faster/easier way to do this? I'm currently running kernel 3.9.8, but am perfectly willing to update again and generate a failure to provide any logs someone thinks may help — I haven't found anything, but I may not be looking in the right place. Thank you, ~Celti

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[arch-general] Packages Verified with MD5
by Taylor Hornby 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

I noticed that the TrueCrypt package is downloaded over an insecure FTP connection and then only verified using MD5 hashes. https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=… There are practical collision attacks against MD5. This means an adversary (e.g. the NSA) can construct two versions of the truecrypt binaries, one malicious and one not, which have the same MD5 hash. They can silently replace the file being downloaded with the malicious version and the change will not be detected. This should be fixed to use SHA256 hashes, like the Firefox package: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=… How can I help make it use SHA256 instead of MD5? I'm relatively new to arch, so I'm not familiar with what it takes to change something in the repos. Any advice would be appreciated. Are there other packages still being verified with MD5? Can we fix them too? I'll gladly donate my time if it's not something that can be automated. Thanks, -- Taylor Hornby p.s. This might be better suited to arch-dev-public, but I think users should be informed of the vulnerability, so I decided on arch-general.

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[arch-general] Empty resolv.conf after PXE boot
by Loper 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hello, I'm having problem with resolv.conf. After booting LiveCD (every version), sometimes it's empty. Problem occurs when using more than 1 interface and probably when one of them isn't connected. Mostly it takes place when I'm booting Arch under ESXi 5.5.0. After running 'dhcpcd' resolv.conf is filled and has correct data. Adding 'copy_resolvconf=y' to kernel params doesn't help. Also FYI: I'm using iPXE to boot this ISO. To reproduce this issue: 1. Boot ArchLinux ISO on any machine (ie. virtual) with 2 or more NIC's 2. Log in as root and cat /etc/resolv.conf - it will be empty or containing empty line 3. Try to ping any foreign domain, ie. google.com - it should fail 4. Run 'dhcpcd' and check if resolv.conf is filled correctly - fixed If it would work automatically, not by explicite calling 'dhcpcd or systemctl start dhcpcd@'. Any ideas? ------- Best regards, Loper

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[arch-general] systemd claims /run out of space
by Jameson 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

For some reason on my home server, systemd is often telling me I'm out of space, but I can't find a problem. Just now, I stopped httpd, and when I try to start it, again, systemd says I'm out of space, the status reports: systemd[1]: Failed to set a watch for httpd.service's PID file /run/httpd/httpd.pid: No space left on device. However, df shows: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda4 107G 33G 73G 31% / dev 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /dev run 7.9G 572K 7.9G 1% /run tmpfs 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 7.9G 1.4M 7.9G 1% /tmp di reports: run /run 7.8G 0.0G 7.8G 0% tmpfs Does anyone know where I can look to see why systemd returns this? Thanks, =-Jameson

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[arch-general] LUKS emergency self-destruct
by Paladin 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hi, does anyone know if there is plan to implement this: http://www.kali.org/how-to/emergency-self-destruction-luks-kali/ in Arch? Patch https://github.com/offensive-security/cryptsetup-nuke-keys is not too big and IMHO it would be great to have this option.. Patch is for 1.6.1 but it cannot be that difficult to port it to 1.6.3 which we have. Paladin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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Re: [arch-general] "os-prober" failed to work with "blkid" (util-linux 2.24-2)
by Ken CC 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:15:03PM +0100, Timothée Ravier wrote: > On 09/01/2014 10:11, Ken CC wrote: > > (...) > > > > What do you guys think? > > Please report bugs upstream, or in the bug tracker. > bug reported: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/38487 -ken

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[arch-general] Error install blink-darcs
by Maykel Franco 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

I cannot install blink-darcs in archlinux...Can I help me please?? Thanks in advanced. [root@arch-maykel maykel]# yaourt -S blink-darcs --noconfirm ==> Descargando PKGBUILD desde AUR... x PKGBUILD Comment by fdservices (2012-05-21 07:34) If this works with python27 shouldit not be updated? Comment by Synthead (2013-01-28 02:43) The documentation calls for Python 2.5 or 2.6, but seems to run ok on Python 2.7. Updated! Comment by Synthead (2013-01-28 02:44) Also, the darcs-bin is an easy way to get darcs on your system without worrying about all the build dependencies ;) Comment by grugnog (2013-03-12 12:25) Getting a segfault when trying making a call with a fresh install of blink and dependencies. Unfortunately it is a hisenbug - since running it with strace works! Will need to try again with gdb at some point. My hunch is that it may be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgcrypt11/+bug/1013798 Comment by gardar (2013-11-15 13:43) Dependency `python2-pyqt' of `blink-darcs' does not exist blink-darcs 20130127-1 (vie may 13 09:28:12 CEST 2011) (Paquete sin soporte: podría ser peligroso!) ==> dependencias de blink-darcs: - python2 (ya instalado) - python2-application (ya instalado) - python2-cjson (ya instalado) - python2-gnutls (ya instalado) - python2-pyqt (ya instalado) - twisted (ya instalado) - python2-eventlib (compilando des de AUR) - python2-sipsimple (compilando des de AUR) - darcs (compilando des de AUR) ==> Continuar compilando blink-darcs? [S/n] ==> --------------------------------------- ==> ==> Compilando e instalando el paquete ==> Las fuentes de blink-darcs se guardaron en la última ocasión. Utilizarlas? [S/n] ==> Instalar o compilar las dependencias que faltan para blink-darcs: ==> Descargando PKGBUILD desde AUR... x PKGBUILD Comment by bretthoerner (2012-12-07 14:57) == Install or build missing dependencies for darcs: error: target not found: haskell-haskeline0.7 Any ideas? Comment by stewSquared (2013-02-26 17:11) I recommend installing from the Haskell Hackage: $ pacman -S cabal-install $ cabal install darcs This way, it's guaranteed to be up-to-date (bonus: haskell-tar and haskell-haskeline are present). Comment by misc (2013-03-11 11:23) Is prepare() still observed by pacman? Had to move its content to build() for it to work. Comment by gtmanfred (2013-03-11 15:53) bah, my bad, prepare doesn't exist until pacman 4.1 I was using it so i wouldn't have to continually configure it Fixing Comment by tzok (2013-06-21 09:52) Please add haskell-utf8-string to makedepends, as it is a required package. darcs 2.8.4-2 (mié mar 21 11:49:56 CET 2012) (Paquete sin soporte: podría ser peligroso!) ==> dependencias de darcs: - curl (ya instalado) - gmp (ya instalado) - ncurses>=5.6-7 (ya instalado) - ghc (ya instalado) - haskell-tar (ya instalado) - haskell-text<0.12 (ya instalado) - haskell-haskeline (ya instalado) - haskell-random (ya instalado) - haskell-vector (ya instalado) - haskell-html<1.1 (ya instalado) - haskell-parsec<3.2 (ya instalado) - haskell-regex-compat (ya instalado) - haskell-hashed-storage<0.6 (compilando des de AUR) ==> Continuar compilando darcs? [S/n] ==> --------------------------------- ==> ==> Compilando e instalando el paquete ==> Instalar o compilar las dependencias que faltan para darcs: ==> Descargando PKGBUILD desde AUR... x PKGBUILD x haskell-hashed-storage.install Comment by goviedo (2013-09-26 14:13) I had a problem compiling this to darcs in my Archbang x64 kernel Storage/Hashed/Utils.hs:17:1: Bad interface file: /usr/lib/ghc-7.6.3/site-local/mtl-2.1.2/Control/Monad/Identity.hi Data.Binary.getWord8: end of file == ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... Linux arch 3.11.1-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Sep 22 19:45:00 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux Comment by eatsaq (2013-11-08 01:14) - Extracting hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz with bsdtar == Starting build()... Setup.hs:27:3: Warning: In the use of `runTests' (imported from Distribution.Simple, but defined in Distribution.Simple.UserHooks): Deprecated: "Please use the new testing interface instead!" Configuring hashed-storage-0.5.10... Setup: At least the following dependencies are missing: extensible-exceptions -any, mtl -any == ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Comment by skeksis268 (2013-12-01 18:57) fails build with the following error: Setup: At least one of the following dependencies are missing: mmap == 0.5.* This is despite having the latest of haskell-mmap package installed Comment by thoth (2013-12-15 16:14) +1 here as well (same as skeksis268) haskell-hashed-storage 0.5.10-1 (lun mar 11 08:26:53 CET 2013) (Paquete sin soporte: podría ser peligroso!) ==> dependencias de haskell-hashed-storage: - ghc (ya instalado) - haskell-dataenc (ya instalado) - haskell-extensible-exceptions (ya instalado) - haskell-mmap (ya instalado) - haskell-mtl (ya instalado) - haskell-zlib (ya instalado) - ghc (ya instalado) ==> Continuar compilando haskell-hashed-storage? [S/n] ==> -------------------------------------------------- ==> ==> Compilando e instalando el paquete ==> AVISO: Compilar un paquete como administrador es peligroso. Ejecute yaourt como usuario normal. ==> Creando el paquete: haskell-hashed-storage 0.5.10-1 (vie ene 10 22:00:52 CET 2014) ==> Resolviendo dependencias... ==> Verificando conflictos... ==> Recibiendo fuentes... -> Descargando hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz... % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 0 0 0 57658 0 0 142k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 142k ==> Validando el archivo fuente con md5sums... hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz ... Aprobado ==> Descomprimiendo fuentes... -> Extrayendo hashed-storage-0.5.10.tar.gz con bsdtar ==> Iniciando build()... Setup.hs:27:3: Warning: In the use of `runTests' (imported from Distribution.Simple, but defined in Distribution.Simple.UserHooks): Deprecated: "Please use the new testing interface instead!" Configuring hashed-storage-0.5.10... Setup: At least the following dependencies are missing: mmap ==0.5.* ==> ERROR: Se produjo un error en build(). Cancelando... ==> ERROR: Makepkg no ha podido compilar haskell-hashed-storage. ==> Reiniciar la compilación de haskell-hashed-storage? [s/N] ==> --------------------------------------------------------- ==> ==> Reiniciar la compilación de darcs? [s/N] ==> ---------------------------------------- ==> ==> Reiniciar la compilación de blink-darcs? [s/N] ==> ---------------------------------------------- ==>

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[arch-general] clients can no longer mount.cifs the '/' samba share from current Arch server (long)
by David C. Rankin 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

Guys, Something in current Archlinux prevents clients mounting a root samba share '/' via mount.cifs. Since building a new Arch server a month or so ago, I have been chasing an issue with mount.cifs that prevents the '/' share from being mounted as it always has. This has worked (and continues to work) on all Arch boxes up until this latest box. I have addressed this to the samba list (see thread: [Samba] What in samba 4.1 prevents a '/' share?) After a month of troubleshooting with the samba devs, it seems that the issue may have to do with the way /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags, or some other default is now set in Arch. Others have confirmed the ability to mount '/' shares from servers running samba 4.1.3, with the exact smb.conf settings, so it appears this is Arch specific. I'm not 100% sure if this is samba related or whether it is cifs related, so I am asking here so I can get the bug report right -- if needed. Several bug reports deal with the drop of ntlm security for the kernel as of kernel 3.8 and with differing /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags values -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/1113395 (see specifically No. #12 & #15 citing: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=159915) Historically the value of /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags has been set at 0x7 (or not set at all on Arch), but now Arch sets the value to 0x85. Examples: (older Arch box smbd Version 3.6.6) [19:32 nirvana:/etc] # cat /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags cat: /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags: No such file or directory (new Arch box smbd Version 4.1.3) [19:30 phoinix:/home/david/cnf/phoinix/etc] # cat /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags 0x85 I have set /proc/fs/cifs/SecurityFlags to the traditional value of 0x7, but there is still something that prevents the mount from working. I will detail below the config and attempts made to resolve the issue. The bottom line is that all older Arch servers (and openSuSE boxes) I have can successfully share/mount a '/' root samba share, but there is now something in current Arch that prevents this from working. The folks at the samba list are stumped because there is nothing in samba or cifs that has changed that would prevent this from working. The bug reports I've read suggest the cifs/SecurityFlags setting may be involved, but from the testing I've done, I don't know if that makes any difference. Now I need help from you smarter Archers to help figure out what changed that prevents this from working and how to fix it. The current Arch box (hostname phoinix) is a fully updated box (as of 1/6/14) with: # smbd --version Version 3.6.7 # mount.cifs -V mount.cifs version: 5.6 The samba config: The server functions as a standalone server (no PDC, etc..). The smb.conf and share definitions are: Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions [global] workgroup = RLFPLLC server string = Phoinix Samba %v map to guest = Bad User smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 time server = Yes printcap name = /etc/printcap show add printer wizard = No os level = 66 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes dns proxy = No wins support = Yes idmap config * : backend = tdb admin users = david hosts allow = 192.168.6., 192.168.7., 127. use sendfile = Yes [homes] comment = Home Directories read only = No browseable = No [config] comment = Phoinix Config (Archlinux) path = / valid users = david force user = root force group = root read only = No browseable = No [samba] comment = Phoinix - Law path = /home/samba valid users = @rankin, #, anna force group = rankin read only = No inherit permissions = Yes <snip> Mounting the homes and samba shares work fine and printing via cups works fine. The only issue is mounting the [config] share. The shares are mounted making use of a credentials file with: mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -v -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm The results of mount showing successful mount of the [homes] and [samba] shares: //phoinix/samba on /mnt/phx type cifs (rw,relatime,vers=1.0,sec=ntlm,cache=loose,unc=\\phoinix\samba,username=david,uid=1000,forceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.7.16,unix,posixpaths,serverino,acl,noperm,rsize=1048576,wsize=65536,actimeo=1) //phoinix/david on /mnt/phx-david type cifs (rw,relatime,vers=1.0,sec=ntlm,cache=loose,unc=\\phoinix\david,username=david,uid=1000,forceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.7.16,unix,posixpaths,serverino,acl,noperm,rsize=1048576,wsize=65536,actimeo=1) However, attempting to mount the [config] share results in the error: [18:33 providence:~/tmp/cifs] # mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -v -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm mount.cifs kernel mount options: ip=192.168.7.16,unc=\\phoinix\config,noperm,uid=1000,user=david,pass=******** mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) I have tried with 'sec=ntlmv2' and 'sec=ntlmssp' which makes no difference. I have tried with/without 'domain=rlfpllc' again no difference. What I need to determine is whether this is a bug or whether this is a configuration issue, and if so, in what? I have captured tcpdump traffic during the mount attempts and they point to smb issuing the error, but I'm not that great at reading packet contents, so I'm not entirely sure. But basically, after successful AndX session setup (Tree Connect AndX Request, Path: \\phoinix\config), the request for \\phoinix\config is made and it is found successfully by the server, but then the server response with (Tree Connect AndX Response, Error: STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED) The full ASCII dump of the packet along with additional testing showing it works on all older servers is included below. If you have ideas or would like me to post additional information, just let me know. I have worked to collect the relevant information from the samba thread, but let me know if you need anything else Arch related from the box. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. ====== Additional Testing and ASCII dump of STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED packet ====== Testing with other servers I can easily mount the '/' share from any other computer. Here is my 3-computer test setup: On my client (hostname providence) I have: 18:01 providence:~> smbd -V Version 3.6.7 linux 3.5.3-1 cifs-utils 5.6-2 On the server (hostname phoinix) I have: 18:15 phoinix:~> smbd -V Version 4.1.3 linux 3.12.6-1 cifs-utils 6.2-1 On a second older server (hostname nemesis) I have: 18:30 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> smbd -V Version 3.4.5-5.1-2300-SUSE-SL11.0 kernel-pae-2.6.25.20-0.7 cifs-mount-3.4.5-5.1 Mounting the '/' config share from host *providence on nemesis* works fine: 18:31 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //providence/config /mnt/pv-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:31 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/pv-cfg total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 2012-09-04 14:41 ./ drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2013-12-28 18:29 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 2012-09-04 14:50 bin/ drwxr-xr-x 3 david root 0 2012-09-04 14:48 boot/ <snip> Mounting the '/' share from host *nemesis on providence* works fine: 18:37 providence:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //nemesis/config /mnt/nm-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:37 providence:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/nm-cfg total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 Dec 9 11:24 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Mar 3 2011 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 Dec 5 2010 bin drwxr-xr-x 4 david root 0 Mar 8 2010 boot <snip> Mounting the '/' share from host *providence on phoinix* works fine: 18:54 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //providence/config /mnt/pv-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:55 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/pv-cfg/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 Sep 4 2012 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Dec 28 18:42 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 May 13 2011 .config drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 Sep 4 2012 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 david root 0 Sep 4 2012 boot <snip> Mounting the '/' share from host *nemesis on phoinix* works fine: 18:55 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //nemesis/config /mnt/nm-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm 18:57 phoinix:~/scr/mnt> l /mnt/nm-cfg total 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 david root 0 Dec 9 11:24 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Dec 28 18:42 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 david root 0 Dec 5 2010 bin drwxr-xr-x 4 david root 0 Mar 8 2010 boot <snip> However, attempting the mount of the '/' share from host *phoinix on anything* else fails. The only difference I can see is this is when I'm attempting to mount the share from 4.1.X on anything else: 18:59 nemesis:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) 18:40 providence:~/scr/mnt> sudo mount.cifs //phoinix/config /mnt/phx-cfg -o username=david,uid=1000,credentials=/home/david/.dcr/mountcfile,noperm mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) The ASCII packet dissection for the STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED packet is: No. Time Source Destination Protocol Length Info 25 3.487933 192.168.7.16 192.168.7.124 SMB 105 Tree Connect AndX Response, Error: STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED Frame 25: 105 bytes on wire (840 bits), 105 bytes captured (840 bits) WTAP_ENCAP: 1 Arrival Time: Jan 6, 2014 17:45:50.826685000 CST [Time shift for this packet: 0.000000000 seconds] Epoch Time: 1389051950.826685000 seconds [Time delta from previous captured frame: 0.001539000 seconds] [Time delta from previous displayed frame: 0.001539000 seconds] [Time since reference or first frame: 3.487933000 seconds] Frame Number: 25 Frame Length: 105 bytes (840 bits) Capture Length: 105 bytes (840 bits) [Frame is marked: False] [Frame is ignored: False] [Protocols in frame: eth:ip:tcp:nbss:smb] [Coloring Rule Name: SMB] [Coloring Rule String: smb || nbss || nbns || nbipx || ipxsap || netbios] Ethernet II, Src: Micro-St_1a:8c:fa (00:21:85:1a:8c:fa), Dst: Dell_22:50:08 (00:11:43:22:50:08) Destination: Dell_22:50:08 (00:11:43:22:50:08) Address: Dell_22:50:08 (00:11:43:22:50:08) .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = LG bit: Globally unique address (factory default) .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = IG bit: Individual address (unicast) Source: Micro-St_1a:8c:fa (00:21:85:1a:8c:fa) Address: Micro-St_1a:8c:fa (00:21:85:1a:8c:fa) .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = LG bit: Globally unique address (factory default) .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = IG bit: Individual address (unicast) Type: IP (0x0800) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 192.168.7.16 (192.168.7.16), Dst: 192.168.7.124 (192.168.7.124) Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport)) 0000 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) .... ..00 = Explicit Congestion Notification: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport) (0x00) Total Length: 91 Identification: 0x0398 (920) Flags: 0x02 (Don't Fragment) 0... .... = Reserved bit: Not set .1.. .... = Don't fragment: Set ..0. .... = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 64 Protocol: TCP (6) Header checksum: 0xa728 [correct] [Good: True] [Bad: False] Source: 192.168.7.16 (192.168.7.16) Destination: 192.168.7.124 (192.168.7.124) [Source GeoIP: Unknown] [Destination GeoIP: Unknown] Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: microsoft-ds (445), Dst Port: 50813 (50813), Seq: 210, Ack: 445, Len: 39 Source port: microsoft-ds (445) Destination port: 50813 (50813) [Stream index: 2] Sequence number: 210 (relative sequence number) [Next sequence number: 249 (relative sequence number)] Acknowledgment number: 445 (relative ack number) Header length: 32 bytes Flags: 0x018 (PSH, ACK) 000. .... .... = Reserved: Not set ...0 .... .... = Nonce: Not set .... 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not set .... .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set .... ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set .... ...1 .... = Acknowledgment: Set .... .... 1... = Push: Set .... .... .0.. = Reset: Not set .... .... ..0. = Syn: Not set .... .... ...0 = Fin: Not set Window size value: 235 [Calculated window size: 30080] [Window size scaling factor: 128] Checksum: 0x5220 [validation disabled] [Good Checksum: False] [Bad Checksum: False] Options: (12 bytes), No-Operation (NOP), No-Operation (NOP), Timestamps No-Operation (NOP) Type: 1 0... .... = Copy on fragmentation: No .00. .... = Class: Control (0) ...0 0001 = Number: No-Operation (NOP) (1) No-Operation (NOP) Type: 1 0... .... = Copy on fragmentation: No .00. .... = Class: Control (0) ...0 0001 = Number: No-Operation (NOP) (1) Timestamps: TSval 290109681, TSecr 203763093 Kind: Timestamp (8) Length: 10 Timestamp value: 290109681 Timestamp echo reply: 203763093 [SEQ/ACK analysis] [This is an ACK to the segment in frame: 24] [The RTT to ACK the segment was: 0.001539000 seconds] [Bytes in flight: 39] NetBIOS Session Service Message Type: Session message (0x00) Length: 35 SMB (Server Message Block Protocol) SMB Header Server Component: SMB [Response to: 24] [Time from request: 0.001539000 seconds] SMB Command: Tree Connect AndX (0x75) NT Status: STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED (0xc0000022) Flags: 0x80 1... .... = Request/Response: Message is a response to the client/redirector .0.. .... = Notify: Notify client only on open ..0. .... = Oplocks: OpLock not requested/granted ...0 .... = Canonicalized Pathnames: Pathnames are not canonicalized .... 0... = Case Sensitivity: Path names are case sensitive .... ..0. = Receive Buffer Posted: Receive buffer has not been posted .... ...0 = Lock and Read: Lock&Read, Write&Unlock are not supported Flags2: 0xc003 1... .... .... .... = Unicode Strings: Strings are Unicode .1.. .... .... .... = Error Code Type: Error codes are NT error codes ..0. .... .... .... = Execute-only Reads: Don't permit reads if execute-only ...0 .... .... .... = Dfs: Don't resolve pathnames with Dfs .... 0... .... .... = Extended Security Negotiation: Extended security negotiation is not supported .... .0.. .... .... = Reparse Path: The request does not use a @GMT reparse path .... .... .0.. .... = Long Names Used: Path names in request are not long file names .... .... ...0 .... = Security Signatures Required: Security signatures are not required .... .... .... 0... = Compressed: Compression is not requested .... .... .... .0.. = Security Signatures: Security signatures are not supported .... .... .... ..1. = Extended Attributes: Extended attributes are supported .... .... .... ...1 = Long Names Allowed: Long file names are allowed in the response Process ID High: 0 Signature: 0000000000000000 Reserved: 0000 Tree ID: 0 (\\phoinix\config) [Path: \\phoinix\config] [Mapped in: 25] Process ID: 1996 User ID: 14822 Multiplex ID: 3 Tree Connect AndX Response (0x75) Word Count (WCT): 0 Byte Count (BCC): 0 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Logind Timing out?
by Steve Holmes 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

After updating my 64 bigt Arch system to latest stable releases, I began to have problems with logind services timing out and allowing me to have only one console available to work with. it seems that when I have ntpdate running and use netctl to auto start my wireless profile, these problems occur. When I disable ntpdate.service, then I seem to get my consols back and logind appears to be working OK. I also experienced similar problems when I was trying out netctl-ifplugd with my wired connections. If the cable was plugged in, then all started right up just fine but if I unplugged the cable and rebooted, then the above stated problems also wold occur. Up until today, I was not having these problems. I can't seem to pin down the exact cause of these issues but these began to happen after experimenting with a more dynamic network setup. My ultimate goal is to have both netctl-ifplugd and netctl-auto both running and then I can have the flexibility of switching to a cabled connection if necessary and be able to also dynamically pick up whatever WIFI service I come into. I read the Arch wiki pages about networking so I have most of that working presuably OK now except for these logind issues. How could networking delays cause all the timing problems with logind.service?

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[arch-general] "os-prober" failed to work with "blkid" (util-linux 2.24-2)
by Ken CC 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Hi, It is because the new blkid can now recognize the extened partion, but os-prober relies on the return value "2" (exit_not_found) of blkid to skip processing the extended partition. # fdisk -l ... Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 63 252847034 126423486 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 252847035 625137344 186145155 5 Extended /dev/sda5 252847098 253425374 289138+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 385254828 482913899 48829536 83 Linux ... blkid 2.24-2 --- # blkid /dev/sda2 /dev/sda2: PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="28b48ca1-02" # echo $? 0 # blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/sda2 # no output # echo $? 0 blkid 2.20.0 --- # blkid /dev/sda2 # no output # echo $? 2 # blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/sda2 # no output # echo $? 2 Affected os-prober code: --- File: /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests - 8 types="$(fs_type "$partition")" || types=NOT-DETECTED 9 if [ "$types" = NOT-DETECTED ]; then 10 debug "$1 type not recognised; skipping" 11 exit 0 With old blkid, os-prober will just skip here when handling /dev/sda2, but with the current version of blkid, os-prober will go on and try to mount /dev/sda2 with FS types found in the system, which causes lots of errors, even kernel calltrace when trying xfs, on my machine. I think there are three ways to sovlve this: 1. change the way that os-prober detects devices. 2. make blkid return an error code when # blkid -o value -s TYPE /dev/sdaX returns no proper result. 3. use the old version of blkid (util-linux). What do you guys think? -ken

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[arch-general] Thank you
by Genes Lists 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Over the last 2 weeks I have replaced 3 fedora servers with Arch - and want to say thank you . That's the last of my fedora machines now and I am all Arch and they are all working really well. The new boxes are haswell UEFI and boot using refind. Setting this up was straightforward with Arch. Thank you for making Arch the best linux distro. Happy New Year gene

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[arch-general] Package management
by Temlin Olivér 07 Jan '14

07 Jan '14

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kalrish Bäakjen <kalrish.antrax(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Before starting, I'd like to remind that we're all humans, so we can > discuss these ideas politely and making use of nothing more than > reason. I am NOT a pedantic person looking to impose my will; please, > excuse me if you feel I'm doing it. I hope this turns into an > interesting conversation, and not into an unjustified battle, as it > too often does. > > Recently, I realized I was not using Arch in the way it was > "intended"; I was building most of the packages of my system, much "a > la Gentoo", with modified PKGBUILDs and a local repository. While it > worked with no major inconveniences, I started looking for truly > source-based distros, and found Gentoo. However, I disliked some parts > about it. This is my attempt at taking what I consider to be "good" > ideas to Arch. > > **Binary packages are right** > It is possible to either build packages by yourself, and then store > them for later use, or directly take them in prebuilt form. This is > specially useful when time matters or when the machine is unable to > build things (in my case, I broke a laptop, and it seems it was > because of overheating). > > **Versioning** > If I have understood it right, Gentoo makes it possible to have > several versions of the same package through "slots". Consider the > following scenario in Arch: > bar1 -> libfoo-1.0 > bar2 -> libfoo-1.0 > `libfoo´ is updated to 2.0. `bar2´ catchs up, but `bar1´ does not. > Thus, updating `libfoo´ to the latest version would break `bar1´, but > is necessary for `bar2´. The solution I've seen is adding the major > version number in the package name (e.g. "gtk2", "freetype2"), which > would turn the older version of `libfoo´ into `libfoo1´. I think, > however, that we could implement Gentoo's "slots", and add the concept > of "alternatives". That way, there would be PKGBUILDs for both > versions of the library, each with the same name but different > version. Each library would be installed as, say, > "/usr/lib/libfoo-${pkgver}.so", and an additional script for handling > of the named "alternatives" could then create a symlink at > /usr/lib/libfoo.so pointing to the right version _if needed_. The > script would exist in a per-package basis, so there would only be one > for both versions of `libfoo´. For example: > $ alternatives-manager libfoo --choose 2.0 > ln -s /usr/lib/libfoo-2.0.so /usr/lib/libfoo.so > (The name and syntax is just an example.) > This is easier to understand with libraries. With programs, however, > it's more difficult; someone could want to install different versions > of the same program, or, more likely, an outdated version (a typical > case would be GNOME 2). We could add "-${pkgver}" to the name of the > binaries in such cases, and then use alternatives to create convenient > symlinks. It would be horrible to have "cp-8.9.2" and the like. > Packages that could benefit from this are freetype, python, and I > guess every library out there. It would be, however, hard to > implement. > > **Package selection** > When pacman finds several versions of the same package in various > repositories, it fetches the one in the prevalent repo. This implies > that, if I've configured my local repository before the official > repos, I will never notice that a package has been updated. I'll have > to do `pacman -Ss pkg-that-ive-compiled´ to check if there's a newer > version, or track each project by myself. I think that, if pacman > finds itself in the described situation, it should prompt to ask which > package to install, unless --noconfirm is passed, in which case it > should stick with the default. [If I do `pacman -S repo/pkg´, however, > pacman should have no problem in choosing the package, and it > shouldn't ask.] > > These were all the ideas. If you haven't understood something, please > ask. Thanks, > Kalrish Hello! It's a nice idea to have, but packages need to link to the proper library version (eg. libfoo.so.1, not libfoo.so), thus making the repeated linking unnecesary. If that's a problem, then you can file a bug report. There already are a lot of symlinks in /lib, to ensure compatibility. If a new library version brakes old packages (many), than the old library is released as you said, with corrected dependencies for all packages (see libpng12 in community). Handling old versions is nearly impossible, as neither packagers nor upstream can be bothered to provide support for outdated packages. Even if Gentoo found a way, the biggest problem would be that it goes against the Arch Way: outdated packages go to the repos and it would complicate the system even more, using the libpng example, the AUR contains three additional packages, making the count 5. Putting these in the official repos would encourage developers to keep using old libraries for their projects and force the user to (in your alternatives-manager-style version) to change library symlinks repeatedly. So the arch solution to your problem is to notify bar1 upstream, and if they don't make a solution (usually because debian/ubuntu not having the new library versions yet), then make a custom patch, or if there are only a few users, and/or a dead upstream, drop the package, which has a (high) chance to resurrect in the AUR. Just bringing up an example search for gnome at the forums around 2011-04 and a few months forth. Dozens of people wanted back the old Gnome 2 (including myself), whined (not me), but to no avail. All the answers were all no. Arch is not going to support (or even ship) packages that are out-of-date. The current solution is to use the since-developed MATE and Cinnamon derivatives. But I'm just a user, and these are my thoughts, not completely matching the arch developers' ones. -- Temlin Olivér

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[arch-general] Package management
by Kalrish Bäakjen 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Hello, Before starting, I'd like to remind that we're all humans, so we can discuss these ideas politely and making use of nothing more than reason. I am NOT a pedantic person looking to impose my will; please, excuse me if you feel I'm doing it. I hope this turns into an interesting conversation, and not into an unjustified battle, as it too often does. Recently, I realized I was not using Arch in the way it was "intended"; I was building most of the packages of my system, much "a la Gentoo", with modified PKGBUILDs and a local repository. While it worked with no major inconveniences, I started looking for truly source-based distros, and found Gentoo. However, I disliked some parts about it. This is my attempt at taking what I consider to be "good" ideas to Arch. **Binary packages are right** It is possible to either build packages by yourself, and then store them for later use, or directly take them in prebuilt form. This is specially useful when time matters or when the machine is unable to build things (in my case, I broke a laptop, and it seems it was because of overheating). **Versioning** If I have understood it right, Gentoo makes it possible to have several versions of the same package through "slots". Consider the following scenario in Arch: bar1 -> libfoo-1.0 bar2 -> libfoo-1.0 `libfoo´ is updated to 2.0. `bar2´ catchs up, but `bar1´ does not. Thus, updating `libfoo´ to the latest version would break `bar1´, but is necessary for `bar2´. The solution I've seen is adding the major version number in the package name (e.g. "gtk2", "freetype2"), which would turn the older version of `libfoo´ into `libfoo1´. I think, however, that we could implement Gentoo's "slots", and add the concept of "alternatives". That way, there would be PKGBUILDs for both versions of the library, each with the same name but different version. Each library would be installed as, say, "/usr/lib/libfoo-${pkgver}.so", and an additional script for handling of the named "alternatives" could then create a symlink at /usr/lib/libfoo.so pointing to the right version _if needed_. The script would exist in a per-package basis, so there would only be one for both versions of `libfoo´. For example: $ alternatives-manager libfoo --choose 2.0 ln -s /usr/lib/libfoo-2.0.so /usr/lib/libfoo.so (The name and syntax is just an example.) This is easier to understand with libraries. With programs, however, it's more difficult; someone could want to install different versions of the same program, or, more likely, an outdated version (a typical case would be GNOME 2). We could add "-${pkgver}" to the name of the binaries in such cases, and then use alternatives to create convenient symlinks. It would be horrible to have "cp-8.9.2" and the like. Packages that could benefit from this are freetype, python, and I guess every library out there. It would be, however, hard to implement. **Package selection** When pacman finds several versions of the same package in various repositories, it fetches the one in the prevalent repo. This implies that, if I've configured my local repository before the official repos, I will never notice that a package has been updated. I'll have to do `pacman -Ss pkg-that-ive-compiled´ to check if there's a newer version, or track each project by myself. I think that, if pacman finds itself in the described situation, it should prompt to ask which package to install, unless --noconfirm is passed, in which case it should stick with the default. [If I do `pacman -S repo/pkg´, however, pacman should have no problem in choosing the package, and it shouldn't ask.] These were all the ideas. If you haven't understood something, please ask. Thanks, Kalrish

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[arch-general] Default value of "j" in makeflags of makepkg.conf
by Mark Lee 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Salutations, I was wondering if we could change the default value for j in MakeFlags in makepkg.conf to "-j$(nproc)". This would allow makepkg to scale the number of threads per pc as default. Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] MAKEFLAGS remodelation
by Kalrish Bäakjen 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Hello, Some projects (e.g., mpv, in community) are moving from Autotools to other build systems. I think we should create a JOBS variable indicating the number of parallel jobs, leaving MAKEFLAGS for make-specific options. We could also implement SCONSFLAGS, WAFFLAGS,… although that may be a bit premature. The reason behind this is that a given build system might not understand "-j N". (And, also, for SCons projects, the "-Q" flag could be desired.) In the proposed model, each PKGBUILD would appropiately tell the build system how many jobs to do in parallel, or ignore the setting. As an extra question, may I ask why aren't MAKEFLAGS used in official PKGBUILDs? I mean, as in: make ${MAKEFLAGS} Perhaps make automatically fetches options from the environment? Or maybe because package construction is automated in a server and other processes are running in other cores? Thanks, Kalrish

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Re: [arch-general] Default value of "j" in makeflags of makepkg.conf
by Isaac Dupree 04 Jan '14

04 Jan '14

On 01/03/2014 04:03 PM, Mark Lee wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 15:55 -0500, Isaac Dupree wrote: >> On 01/03/2014 10:37 AM, Anatol Pomozov wrote: >>> Using -j$(cpunum) is a sane default that saves a lot of time to users. >> >> I agree, but for the record, 'nice' and scheduling are no panacea in my >> experience. It's fine for CPU loads, but compilations are also >> disk-heavy (which mattered when I used a spinning disk) and sometimes >> RAM-heavy (-j8 on my pet C++ project uses 2GB of RAM, which could push >> other programs I'm using into swap). >> >> -Isaac >> >> > > Salutations, > > I got to ask why you are running make with 8 threads on a system with > only 2 GB of ram? Heh. Well, I have 8 GB of RAM, but I'm often using most of it already. $(nproc) is 8 because there are 4 cores with each with hyperthreading (Intel Core i7). The project builds roughly at the same speed on this box at anywhere from -j4 to -j8; if that generalizes to other projects and there's an easy way to count cores not hyperthreads, cores might be a better Arch default. Shrugs. There are quite a few 4GB i7 systems out there too. Quad core ARM systems are another point on the cores-to-RAM-ratio spectrum. Probably most code doesn't consume 256 MB RAM per GCC invocation. C++'s templates and lack of module system... -Isaac

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[arch-general] USB S-ATA Adapter
by Silvio Siefke 03 Jan '14

03 Jan '14

Hello, my Notebook is broken and so i buy a Adapter that i can take my Data from the Harddisk. siefke ~ $ lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0402:9665 ALi Corp. Gateway Webcam Bus 001 Device 004: ID 174c:5106 ASMedia Technology Inc. Transcend StoreJet 25M3 siefke ~ $ ls /dev | grep sd sda sda1 sda2 sdb SDB is the HDD but i can not mount and fdisk give nothing out. siefke ~ $ sudo fdisk -l [sudo] password for siefke: Disk /dev/sda: 232,9 GiB, 250059350016 bytes, 488397168 sectors Units: Sektoren of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x47a0cee0 Gerät Boot Start Ende Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 2048 4196351 2097152 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda2 * 4196352 488397167 242100408 83 Linux Has someone an idea or can i forget it? Thank you for help & Nice Day Silvio

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[arch-general] Patching in PKGBUILDS
by Mark Lee 03 Jan '14

03 Jan '14

Salutations, While debugging a libva-intel-driver issue, I found that makepkg was not reporting failures to patch source files. Is there a reason behind this behavior? Regards, Mark P.S. Happy New Year! -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 110, Issue 18
by Mark Lee 01 Jan '14

01 Jan '14

On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 22:33 -0500, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 19:39:03 +0100 > Thomas B?chler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > > Really? Who? > > Hmm, me. Intel atom here... > > > You are suggesting not changing to a sane default because some > packages > > (especially in the AUR) have crappy maintainers. That's hardly a > reason > > for anything. > > A sane default would probably be $(nproc)-1. But in general, is it a > good > idea to have calls to binaries in a config file? So far, makepkg.conf > doesn't > have anything like this. > > Happy new year, > Leonid. > Salutations, What if there is one core? What would be the output of make -j0? If makepkg.conf is to avoid binary calls, where else could this be placed? Would it be added directly to /usr/bin/makepkg as a flag that can be toggled in makepkg.conf? Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] build and test packages automatically
by Mark Lee 01 Jan '14

01 Jan '14

On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 21:12 -0500, arch-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 22.12.2013, 19:51 +0800 schrieb Guangyu Zhang: > > [?] and to show the status of all packages which is just like > > the buildd <http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/> in Debian. > > For my small repository I created a website? which lists all the > packages in the repository with a button to check the status. > It compares the version with the one in [AUR] but it could be adopted > to > check the status in CVS. > Of course it doesn?t build the packages automatically. > > Regards, > coderkun Salutations, Something similar was discussed on the Arch message board: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=159304 I have experience with building computational servers; with enough funding for operational and startup costs, I'd like to build a cluster of AMD APUs computers for quantum chemistry, Arch Linux test packaging, and automated git building. It would be like a render/compiling farm. Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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Re: [arch-general] Patching in PKGBUILDS
by Mark Lee 01 Jan '14

01 Jan '14

On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 23:02 -0500, Mark Lee wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-01 at 04:58 +0100, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> wrote: > > > My patch command was given in the build() section of the PKGBUILD: > > > > > > build() { > > > cd "${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}"; > > > patch -Np1 -i "${srcdir}/i965_rendering.patch" > > > ./configure --prefix=/usr > > > make > > > } > > > > > > While debugging libva-intel-driver, I applied the rendering patch via > > > the PKGBUILD only to find later that it wasn't actually applied. Makepkg > > > didn't stop building the package even though it failed to apply the > > > patch. > > > > Nothing wrong with that snippet; the problem lies somewhere else. Did > > you actually watch the patch fail and makepkg continue? Are you sure > > the package you have installed came from this PKGBUILD? > > I rebuilt and installed the package from the PKGBUILD (makepkg -s -r -i) > multiple times. After finding that nothing was working, I grew > suspicious and examined the src folder of the PKGBUILD to find that the > source was not patched. Incidentally the correct code was "patch -p1 -i" > not "patch -Np1 -i". > > Regards, > Mark Salutations, Scratch that, I just checked my records and I used a lower cased "n" instead of "N". I just tried it with "patch -Np1 -i" and it works, but "patch -np1 -i" doesn't. Regards, Mark -- Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com>

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[arch-general] FreeRDP
by Ben Hagan 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

It would appear that FreeRDP in community needs to be updated to 1.1. There is a 1.1 stable branch in their repo, and it implements some changes that make freerdp much better to use. I flagged the package as being out of date a few weeks ago, but it looks like it got unflagged. I flagged it again, hopefully emailing this list will give it some traction. If this is the wrong place for this, please forgive my noobosity and politely redirect me through the proper channels.

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[arch-general] PCRE 8.34-1 Upgrade breaks expected regex behavior for MediaWiki
by Peter Baldridge 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

Hello All, The most recent upgrade to pcre 8.34-1 seems to disallow group names starting with a digit. A quote from the PCRE news.txt [1]: > "Perl no longer allows group names to start with digits, so I have made this change also in PCRE." I found this bug report[2] on the mediawiki site that apparently has a working patch though I'll probably just downgrade until the patch is in the official package. This breaks my MediaWiki install with the following error in the httpd/error.log: >PHP Warning: preg_match(): Compilation failed: group name must start with a non-digit at offset 8 in /usr/share/webapps/mediawiki/includes/MagicWord.php on line 907 I'm not sure how Arch would handle this since it is an upstream bug. If someone needs any other info let me know. [1] http://pcre.org/news.txt [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58640 -- Pete

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[arch-general] ★ General Discussion about Arch Linux, Nicolás de la torre te dejó un mensaje...
by Nicolás de la torre 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

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[arch-general] Locale Changed
by Silvio Siefke 29 Dec '13

29 Dec '13

Hello, i use XFCE and when i now start i become all in english but i has write the locales in german. I not understand i do nothing make restart and now the GTK Programms in English, XFCE in English, VLC in English. siefke ~ $ cat /etc/locale.conf export LC_DATE=de_DE.utf8 export LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.utf8 export LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8 export LANG=de_DE.utf8 siefke ~ $ cat /etc/vconsole.conf KEYMAP=de-latin1 siefke ~ $ cat .bashrc | grep LANG export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 siefke ~ $ cat .xinitrc | grep LANG export LANGUAGE=de_DE.utf8 export LANG=de_DE.utf8 I really not understand why now most Programs in English. Can someone give me an advice. Thanks for help & Nice day Silvio

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[arch-general] svntogit interface issue
by Leonid Isaev 26 Dec '13

26 Dec '13

Hi, I just noticed that svntogit interface at archlinux.org is few days behind SVN. For example systemd is still listed in trunk with pkgrel=5, while [testing] has pkgrel=9. Is this a known problem? Thanks and happy holidays, -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] -Bsymbolic-functions
by Olivier Langlois 26 Dec '13

26 Dec '13

>From https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/Options.html#Options -Bsymbolic-functions When creating a shared library, bind references to global function symbols to the definition within the shared library, if any. This option is only meaningful on ELF platforms which support shared libraries. I have discovered this ld switch by seeing it offered in the alsa-lib configure script: --enable-symbolic-functions use -Bsymbolic-functions option if available (optmization for size and speed) My limited knowledge of how shared libraries work is that code refering to a 'so' function jump in a location containing a second jump to the address of the loaded symbol and this second jump instruction gets patched when the 'so' is loaded. So my understanding of the switch is that activating just go directly to the function without any indirection. Could it be interesting to make this switch standard in makepkg.conf? Has this ever been discussed in the past? The only potential problem that I can foresee with its usage is for programs 'hijacking' symbols by being preloaded first. The 2 programs that I know doing this are: trickle and glc but I am sure that there are many others.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [HEADSUP] Arch boot splash
by Genes Lists 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

On 12/22/2013 03:22 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 22.12.2013 03:11, schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi: >> Anyways, I am planning to replace gummiboot by syslinux in archiso. (but ... > Given the state of syslinux on EFI (fails to load some kernels entirely > for some people) and its lack of features (cannot chainload EFI > executables, for example), I am now very sceptical towards this. > > I've been installing arch on new systems the last couple of days - and am having great success with rEFInd - pretty straightforward and so far is working really well for me. gene

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[arch-general] build and test packages automatically
by Guangyu Zhang 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

Hello, I want to build an repository. I need a software to build and test packages automatically, and to show the status of all packages which is just like the buildd <http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/> in Debian. I have been looking for it via Google, but nothing found. Can anybody give me some advice? I also wonder what software is used by official developers to manage the main repository. Thanks, Guangyu

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[arch-general] nut UPS driver (upsdrvctl) fails to start for usbhid devices due to node perms - howto fix?
by David C. Rankin 20 Dec '13

20 Dec '13

Guys, As a follow-on to the thread "package: network-ups-tools what happened to it?" I have discussed the fail-to-start issue with the nut developers and the reason why nut used to just "work" in the past for usb devices, but now no longer does without additional configuration. This apparently has to do with hotplug/udev permissions on newer Linux systems. I guess this went into Arch about 12-18 months ago, because that is when nut stopped working without further configuration. After working through errors starting the latest nut from git with systemd, the problem was that /dev/bus/usb/004/002 is owned by root:root forcing nut-driver.server to fail to start. Essentially upsdrvctl could not find/connect with /dev/bus/usb/004/002 and could not find the ups usb connection. Modifying the Execstart=/usr/bin/upsdrvctl start to: /usr/bin/upsdrvctl -u root start <upsname> allowed upsdrvctl to connect, but then created the state files in /var/state/ups with root:root permission which in turn caused nut-server.service (upsd) to fail on startup. upsd could not read the device files created in the state directory and could not create the upsd.pid as it was running gid "nut". Changing gid ownership of /dev/bus/usb/004/002 to root:nut solves all problem and allows upsdrvctl, upsd and upsmon to all start and connect fine. However, there is no way for the packager to know what bus a device with install or or whether it will be plugged back into the same port each time. I would like to investigate how Arch could be changed/configured so that nut simply runs out of the box as it used to before what ever changed changed. Is there a way the packager can do this? There are articles about rolling custom udev files -- that essentially accomplish linking the device to systemd and the ups name through /etc/ups/ups.conf: http://www.kepstin.ca/blog/networkupstoolsnutandsystemd/ That too is something impossible for the packager to take into account when building the package. How do we package something like nut just works after it is installed like it used to? Essentially, what is broken is nut's ability to probe and connect to the ups device on startup due to the default device permissions. Did the usb devices used to have 0666 permissions in the past? That's the only way I can see upsdrvctl being able to probe/connect to the device right out of the box. What are the security consideration of having a usb device world writable? Could we modify the default Arch udev setup to recognize UPS devices and make these world writable by default? I don't know much about the new udev/usb logic, so I'm asking, what say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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