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[arch-general] Mime backup program
by Squall Lionheart 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Hello, A few weeks ago there was a thread regarding the best "Arch" way of backing up /etc and I mentioned that I wrote a backup program that works very well for that. I promised I would let everyone know when my new version became available, and today is that day. I don't have an AUR package yet, however an installer is provided and a "Quick Setup" can be found in the README. The package contains full documentation and I am willing to answer questions via email. This is a very powerful and fully featured program and I welcome any feedback. http://code.google.com/p/mime-backup/ Thank you Squall -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual

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[arch-general] swt - why depends bump to java-runtime>=7?
by David C. Rankin 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Guys, Guillaume, Do you know if the recent depends bump in swt is do to an actual break in compatibility with java-runtime 6.x or was it just do to a package support issue? The PKGBUILD was updated a couple of days ago to: -depends=('java-runtime>=6' 'gtk2>=2.20.1' 'libxtst') +depends=('java-runtime>=7' 'gtk2>=2.20.1' 'libxtst') I have a couple of my children's games that are still openjdk_6 based, so I was putting off the update. I'll check it out, but I thought I would ask to see if somebody already knew. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Open Build Service adds support for Arch Linux
by André Prata 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

http://www.open-build-service.org/2012/09/10/arch-linux-support/ Are there any plans for seamless integration with the AUR? André Prata

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[arch-general] GDM and/or PulseAudio mute my sound
by Kyle 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Working from the command line in a text-only console using espeakup, all is well, and sound works as it should. However, starting GDM mutes my sound card. If I go back to the text console and run sudo systemctl start alsa-restore Again, all is well in the text console until I login with GDM. I am expecting to hear Orca speaking at this point, but I hear nothing. In order to get Orca to speak, I must run gnome-terminal from within GNOME and then do sudo systemctl start alsa-restore again. Once I do this, I have sound until I shutdown the computer. I have tried xdm and lxdm also, and while they themselves don't cause me to lose sound at the text console, I am for some reason unable to login and use GNOME from either of these display managers. I also tried commenting out load-module module-device-restore in /etc/pulse/default.pa, as was a possible work-around in a much older version of PulseAudio that mentioned /etc/pa.conf, which I translated to /etc/pulse/default.pa since there is no /etc/pa.conf, but this also doesn't solve my problem. I should note that although I am using systemd commands to restore sound, this problem is not related to systemd, as I was experiencing the same issue before I migrated to full systemd yesterday. I am currently running Arch on a USB flash drive connected to a Dell Optiplex from about 2003 or 2004, but I can't find the exact model, as lshw is only giving me Dell Computer Corporation as the vendor name with no model number, and it doesn't even say Optiplex anywhere, although I remember reading it somewhere a couple of years ago. The computer was given to my family several years ago, but it's basically been a spare box until recently when my newer and better designed box passed away due to human error. This is why I unfortunately don't have the full information about this machine. The sound card is listed by lspci as 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) and uses the snd_intel8x0 kernel module. I am currently running linux-lts 3.0.40-1, pulseaudio 2.1-1, pulseaudio-alsa 2-1, alsa-utils 1.0.25-3 and gdm 3.4.1-2. I would appreciate any help anyone can provide, and will be happy to answer any questions I may have missed here. ~Kyle

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[arch-general] Help mounting Windows drive
by Randy 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

In the past I have been able to mount my Windows computer using the following command: "mount -t cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD //192.168.1.107/Users/gumper /mnt/share/" Now when I try this I receive the message: "Unable to find suitable address". I am able to ping the IP address without any problem. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? Thanks, Randy

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[arch-general] archiso - more install guides
by vadim kochan 09 Sep '12

09 Sep '12

Hi all, I started with Arch a few days ago and mentioned that there is only one small installation guide file. What do you think about to add more installation guide's (wireless, network, x.org ... ) ? Add some guide-generator script into archiso repo? ---- Thanks. Sorry for my bed english)

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[arch-general] bind9, apache 2 & sftp management
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 09 Sep '12

09 Sep '12

hello, I have a small VPS and I want my few users (~10) to be able to manage their sub/domains. I don't care about the UI, either command line interface (via jailed ssh) or web ui. I would really like to have only SFTP and not any FTP daemon. however, if ftp is so much easier, then ok, ftp daemon... Thank you in advance! -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] cups 1.6.1 doesn't detect usb printer
by siriusb＠linuxmail.org 09 Sep '12

09 Sep '12

Hi, I'm stuck with resolving my printer issue. Maybe someone here can help me out. Long story: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=148474 Short version: I reinstalled cups, removed all leftover files in /etc, /usr which wasn't owned any package. Samsung unified driver got replaced with splix-svn 307. Now cups doesn't see my usb printer. On a laptop with clean cups install it works. What interesting that the printer is recognized, lsusb, dmesg shows it. And usb backend called manually detects it, too: |# /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb DEBUG: list_devices DEBUG: libusb_get_device_list=10 DEBUG2: Printer found with device ID: MFG:Samsung;CMD:PCL5E,SPL,FWV,EXT;MDL:SCX-3200 Series;CLS:PRINTER;MODE:SCN;STATUS:BUSY; Device URI: usb://Samsung/SCX-3200%20Series?serial=Z509BFEB902638M&interface=1 direct usb://Samsung/SCX-3200%20Series?serial=Z509BFEB902638M&interface=1 "Samsung SCX-3200 Series" "Samsung SCX-3200 Series" "MFG:Samsung;CMD:PCL5E,SPL,FWV,EXT;MDL:SCX-3200 Series;CLS:PRINTER;MODE:SCN;STATUS:BUSY;" "" root ~ # lpinfo -vl network http network lpd network socket network smb network https network ipp network ipps| Does someone have any clue? Of course I played with usblp module (removed, loaded), no avail. Thanks, Zsolt

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[arch-general] force close of google chrome
by 曾庆龙 09 Sep '12

09 Sep '12

hi,everyone one day I found my google chrome always force close without prompt code when I clicked any option in the settings. I have tried to uninstall, delete the related file in /opt and then reinstall, also I have tried to install chromium, updated the system, but got no result. how can I do to fix this problem?

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[arch-general] is it possible to disable bold(bright) color under console?
by Xeslaro 08 Sep '12

08 Sep '12

when some application write, for example, \e[1;31m msg \e[0m to console, is it possible to just ignore the "1;" which asks to use a bold(bright) color and just write \e[31m msg \e[0m instead? i don't like bold colors, they make eyes suffering. i tried setterm -bold off, which doesn't work; and infocmp to dump the terminfo file, remove the bold entry, use tic to save the setting, which only take effect on applications that use the ncurses library. is there any way to solve this problem?

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[arch-general] pavucontrol can't connect to Pulseaudio
by Arno Gaboury 08 Sep '12

08 Sep '12

Dear list, pulseaudio is started with my X session via /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/pulseaudio. [gabx@magnolia:~]$ ps aux | grep pulse gabx 687 0.0 0.0 501896 6652 ? S<l 15:12 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start My issue is with pavucontrol, the GTK volume control tool. When I start pavucontrol, the volume control windows opens but hangs with this message: Establishing connection to Pulse Audio. Please wait... and never open. I see in the log file : [pulseaudio]pid.c : Daemon already running. Why can't pavucontrol access to pulse audio?? This issue didn't appeared when I booted with sysvinit, but it came when using systemd. TY for help

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[arch-general] After update package fontconfig causes ldconfig issue
by Ralf Mardorf 08 Sep '12

08 Sep '12

When an update today run ldconfig, I noticed that there's something wrong, caused by an update from yesterday. [root@archlinux spinymouse]# ldconfig ldconfig: /usr/lib32/libfontconfig.so.1 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. ldconfig: /usr/lib32/libfontconfig.so.1.6.2 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. ldconfig: /usr/lib32/libfontconfig.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. [root@archlinux spinymouse]# pacman -Qi fontconfig | grep Install\ Date Install Date : Fri Sep 7 07:18:11 2012 [root@archlinux spinymouse]# pacman -Ql fontconfig | grep libfontconfig fontconfig /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so fontconfig /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 fontconfig /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.6.2 Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] uswsusp, s2both
by Mathieu R. 07 Sep '12

07 Sep '12

Hello all, i just did install uswsusp from AUR (uswsusp-git), in order to use s2both to provide suspend_hybrid on my laptop. (cause s2both process seem much more useful to me than the default PM_HIBERNATE_DELAY way of doing suspend_hybrid). Technically, everything is working fine with s2both : s2ram and s2disk working well, resume from {RAM,disk} doing ther job. But after resume, (ram or disk), i got very poor performances during maybe 30 second or a minute, with load average getting up to 12 or 15 maybe. resume from ram using s2both is going way slower than regular resume from ram (kernel) those two issues are really annoying, quite nullifying the benefits from s2both over kernel suspend... My question is : is there any configure options somewhere i can have missing, or some way to drastically improve those issues ? thank you all in advance, -- Mathieu R.

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[arch-general] NetworkManager rebuild in testing because of dhcpcd 5.6.2 upgrade ?
by fredbezies 07 Sep '12

07 Sep '12

I found and reported a bug - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31453 which can be fixed by rebuilding networkmanager. Could it be done ? Thanks. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] fontconfig: 99pdftoopvp.conf
by phani 07 Sep '12

07 Sep '12

i've read in announcements and arch-dev-public that /etc/fonts/conf.d is supposed to contain only links now. being lazy i used "pacman -Sy --force fontconfig" instead of manually deleting the existing files, and i find that the package 99pdftoopvp.conf remains as a real file. i found that it belongs to cups-filters, which installs it into /etc/fonts/conf.d directly, apparently. am i supposed to do anything about this, or just leave it there? -- phani.

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[arch-general] how to handle dependency cycle?
by Krzysztof Warzecha 06 Sep '12

06 Sep '12

Hello, I found dependency cycle in extra: libjpeg -> nasm (makedepends) nasm -> ghostscript (makedepends) ghostscript -> libjpg (depends) check_package.py script (one that sends Integrity Check to arch-dev-public) does not treat this as dependency cycle, but clearly I can't build one package without at least one another. Assuming I have no packages from extra, how do I handle this? In this case I could just drop ghostscript from nasm and everything will work (well, I hope so). This is just bug? (I'm trying to write script that could rebuild all packages from scratch) -- Krzysztof Warzecha

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[arch-general] Trackpoint + LXDE
by Nelson Marambio 06 Sep '12

06 Sep '12

Hi, folks, does anyone know how the trackpoint (the little "joystick" between G, H and B on the laptop keyboard) ? In GNOME there was a a little panel on the upper right corner - but running LXDE ? I thought I could find a suitable option in ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.conf but I failed. Kind regards, Nelson.

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[arch-general] systemd-journald crashes alot.
by DR 06 Sep '12

06 Sep '12

After upgraded to systemd-189-4, I have seen many many lines of 'systemd-journal: segfault at xxx ip ....' in my dmesg. I don't what's going wrong, could it be the forward secure sealing?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] fontconfig 2.10.1 will require user interaction
by Heiko Baums 06 Sep '12

06 Sep '12

Am Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:25:06 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke <andyrtr(a)archlinux.org>: > Am Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:02:27 +0200 > schrieb Rémy Oudompheng <remyoudompheng(a)gmail.com>: > > > I would simply recommend removing the offending files using rm, we > > certainly know the list. > > > > Rémy. > > > > News draft: > > fontconfig 2.10.1 update - manual intervention required > > Fontconfig 2.10.1 update overwrites symlinks created by > the former package version. These symlinks need to be removed before > any further update: > > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/20-unhint-small-vera.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/29-replace-bitmap-fonts.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-urw-aliases.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/40-nonlatin.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/49-sansserif.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/51-local.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-fonts-persian.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-nonlatin.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/69-unifont.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/80-delicious.conf > rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/90-synthetic.conf > pacman -Syu > > Main systemwide configuration should be done by symlinks > (especially for autohinting, sub-pixel and lcdfilter): > > cd /etc/fonts/conf.d > ln -s ../conf.avail/XX-foo.conf Wouldn't it be possible and make sense to remove those in the pre_install() or pre_upgrade() functions of the new packages? Heiko

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[arch-general] Postgresql with Systemd
by Paul Gideon Dann 06 Sep '12

06 Sep '12

I'm having some trouble getting postgresql working with systemd. The unit originally would fail to start, until I realised that the script it uses to start assume that the variables in /etc/conf.d/postgresql will be defined, and in my setup they were commented out. Once I'd uncommented them, the unit starts OK, and I can connect using pgsql. However, there is no domain socket created at /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432, which is clearly not right. It means that phpPgAdmin is broken in its default configuration. I'd be surprised if noone else had encountered this, although I can't find any obvious chatter online. Has someone determined the best way to fix? Paul

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[arch-general] packages creating users and groups without explicit UID / GID?
by Ray Kohler 05 Sep '12

05 Sep '12

Recently I've noticed a couple of packages (git and util-linux) that are creating system users and groups ("git" and "uuidd") without explicitly choosing a UID or GID. These are then assigned IDs near the top of the SYS_UID_MAX / SYS_GID_MAX range. Previously, such post_install scripts were hard-coding these numbers based on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database . Is this an "official" change of direction, such that I should expect new packages will all behave this way from here out? It matters to me because this new way assigns the IDs in a way that will vary depending on what order I install packages, and that means I have to be more careful with how I reconcile the passwd / shadow / group / gshadow files between machines which would otherwise have identical lists, and especially, I need to really watch out when reinstalling a machine and then restoring /etc from backups. It's not really a "problem" per se, but I'd very much like to know what to expect here.

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[arch-general] Pacman and Systemd's automount
by Guillermo Leira 05 Sep '12

05 Sep '12

Hello! I have enabled systemd, and since then, I see the following: [root@guillelinux ~]# LANG=C pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date multilib is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (1): openssh-6.1p1-2 Total Download Size: 0.53 MiB Total Installed Size: 2.62 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 0.00 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y :: Retrieving packages from core... openssh-6.1p1-2-x86_64 540.5 KiB 2034K/s 00:00 [################################################] 100% (1/1) checking package integrity [################################################] 100% (1/1) loading package files [################################################] 100% (1/1) checking for file conflicts [################################################] 100% warning: could not get filesystem information for /mnt/atlantac: No such device warning: could not get filesystem information for /mnt/atlantad: No such device warning: could not get filesystem information for /mnt/asusc: No such device warning: could not get filesystem information for /mnt/asusd: No such device warning: could not get filesystem information for /mnt/asusf: No such device (1/1) checking available disk space [################################################] 100% (1/1) upgrading openssh [################################################] 100% It seems that pacman tries to access or check every mounted filesystem in my PC. It is not very important, except when I'm out of the office. I have defined some mount points like this: 172.31.217.10:/vol/vol0 /mnt/up nfs noauto,x-systemd.automount,defaults 0 0 When pacman reaches this filesystems, that obviously can't be accessed from outside the office, it hangs forever. I have to issue Systemctl stop mnt-systemd.up And then it works. Why is pacman trying to access all the mountpoints? Best Regards, Guillermo Leira

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[arch-general] Journalctl error with systemdAssertion 'size > 0' failed at src/journal/mmap-cache.c:615, function mmap_cache_get(). Aborting. zsh: abort journalctl
by Aurko Roy 05 Sep '12

05 Sep '12

Hi, I have been getting the following error whenever I try to run journalctl: Assertion 'size > 0' failed at src/journal/mmap-cache.c:615, function mmap_cache_get(). Aborting. zsh: abort journalctl Initially I thought it had something to do with the new sealing key functionality of systemd, so I ran journalctl --setup-keys which ran without a problem. However this error persists even after generating the sealing keys, so now I'm not so sure if they're related. I'm running systemd 189-3 (with systemd-sysvcompat 189-3) from the testing repo with permanent logging enabled (I have a /var/log/journal directory created). Does anybody have an idea what could be causing the problem? I apologize if this is some standard issue that may have been covered on the wiki, in which case I would greatly appreciate if someone were to point me in the right direction. TIA. -- Aurko Roy GPG key: 0x20C5BC31 Fingerprint:76B4 9677 15BE 731D 1949 85BA 2A31 B442 20C5 BC31

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[arch-general] How to align partitions?
by Stayvoid 04 Sep '12

04 Sep '12

Hi, I'd like to know how to create aligned partitions on a 160GB disk which uses a 512B sector size. (Partition table: msdos) I've got the theory [1, 2], but I can't make it work. I'd like to have three partitions: 1. ext3 ~ 100mb /boot 2. linux-swap ~ 1GB swap 3. ext3 (for the rest of the system) How to adjust the sizes? I'm planning to encrypt swap and the third partition with dm-crypt (not LUKS). Separate /boot is needed to mount and decrypt them after booting. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-838522.html [2] http://superuser.com/questions/349887/gnu-parted-how-to-deal-with-the-error… Thanks

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[arch-general] git update groupadd failure: Invalid configuration: SYS_GID_MIN (101), GID_MIN (100), SYS_GID_MAX (99)
by David C. Rankin 04 Sep '12

04 Sep '12

All, pacman -Syu this morning and groupadd failed while installing git with the following message: ( 28/115) upgrading git [###########################] 100% groupadd: Invalid configuration: SYS_GID_MIN (101), GID_MIN (100), SYS_GID_MAX (99) useradd: group 'git' does not exist error: command failed to execute correctly It appears to see a min of 100 and a max of 99. That doesn't appear to ever work. [confused construction worker] "I've cut it twice and it's still too short?" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] libsystemd to systemd
by Mathieu R. 04 Sep '12

04 Sep '12

Hello, Last update (10 minutes ago) asked me if y want switch from libsystemd to core/systemd. I agreed, and on next reboot, networkmanager was not started automaticly from rc.conf. it work well if y start it by hand (/etc/rc.d/networkmanager start). can you please help me to get it started at boot again ? -- Mathieu R.

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Re: [arch-general] FS#31255 - [linux] 3.5.2 Broken ALSA powersave
by skydrome 04 Sep '12

04 Sep '12

Hi, i recently requested to reopen https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31255 but thought i should have mailed here first. The alsa powersave patch applied to 3.5.3 didnt fix the issue for me. I set CONFIG_SND_HDA_POWER_SAVE_DEFAULT=0 to nonzero and the issue is resolved. Perhaps this is just localized to my hardware i dont know but if anyone else is still experiencing 100% usage this is what fixed it for me.

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[arch-general] Requesting ownership of the bugs for AIF in the bugtracker
by Jeremiah Dodds 03 Sep '12

03 Sep '12

I posted this to the releng list, and didn't get a response, so I figured I'd ping here and see what's up. There are a *whole lot* of bugs for AIF in the bugtracker[1], some of which aren't relevant any more, and some of which I'm working on. I'd like to request ownership / assignment of the AIF bugs, if possible. I can certainly work my way through them, but figure that it makes some sense for me to be listed as "responsible" for them, and would also mean less poking and prodding from me as I attempt to figure out which ones are still relevant and which ones should be closed already. My username on the bugtracker is jdd . Footnotes: [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=6&cat%5B%5D=40&status%5B%5D=op… -- Jeremiah Dodds blog : http://jdodds.github.com github : https://github.com/jdodds freenode/skype : exhortatory twitter : kaens

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[arch-general] VMware Player problem
by Ondřej Kučera 03 Sep '12

03 Sep '12

Hello, I've encountered a problem with VMware Player which I don't really understand. Firstly I upgraded the linux package from 3.4.9 to 3.5.3. After that I remember successfully running VMware at least once. Secondly I upgraded (among other stuff) packages xorg-server, xorg-server-common and xorg-server-devel to 1.12.4. Thirdly I upgraded libdrm to 2.4.39 and libglapi, libegl, libgl, libgles and mesa to 8.0.4-3. After that when I tried running VMware (by that I mean starting the needed service, starting the player and trying to "play" any existing image) the whole machine crashed (switched to the console, showed the last lines of kernel log and didn't react to anything but the power button). Since I found some lines containing nouveau in the log, I suspected the latest upgrade and downgraded libdrm, libglapi, libegl, libg, libgles and mesa back to their previous versions. That didn't work and running VMware resulted in the same crash. Then I tried reverting the three xorg-server-* packages but for some reason that didn't help either. I had to revert the kernel back to 3.4.9 which finally solved it. This confuses me because as I said before, at least once everything worked with 3.5.3. kernel. The only difference is that in the meantime I also switched to systemd but I don't think that should matter. Is anyone experiencing similar problems? Ignoring so many packages for upgraded (or trying them one after another which can be safely upgraded) is not a long-term solution but on the other hand I need to be able to run VMware a few times a week. This is what I found in /var/log/everything.log after the crash: Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.848367] /dev/vmmon[16810]: PTSC: initialized at 2660008000 Hz using TSC, TSCs are synchro nized. Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.851118] general protection fault: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT SMP Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.851194] CPU 1 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.851214] Modules linked in: vmnet(O) parport_pc vsock(O) vmci(O) vmmon(O) ppdev parport fu se ipt_REJECT xt_tcpudp nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_conntrack nf_conntrack hdaps(O) iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables snd_hda_codec_hdmi arc4 microcode aesni_intel aes_x86_64 aes_generic ghash_clmulni_intel uvcvideo cryptd iwlwifi videobuf2_v malloc videobuf2_memops videobuf2_core snd_hda_codec_conexant joydev videodev media kvm serio_raw mac80211 snd_hda_intel btus b snd_hda_codec bluetooth cfg80211 firewire_ohci firewire_core iTCO_wdt sdhci_pci sdhci mmc_core psmouse mei i2c_i801 intel_i ps thinkpad_acpi tpm_tis tpm nvram tpm_bios e1000e rfkill snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_timer snd soundcore coretemp c rc32c_intel evdev iTCO_vendor_support intel_agp intel_gtt lpc_ich mfd_core crc_itu_t thermal ac battery tun tp_smapi(O) think pad_ec(O) cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_conservative acpi_cpufreq mperf processor autofs4 ext4 crc16 jbd2 mbcache sd_mod sr_mod c drom hid_generic usbhid hid ahci libahci ehci_hcd libata scsi_mod usbcore usb_common nouveau button video mxm_wmi wmi i2c_alg o_bit drm_kms_helper ttm drm i2c_core [last unloaded: parport_pc] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.852779] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.852785] Pid: 16810, comm: vmware-vmx Tainted: G O 3.5.3-1-ARCH #1 LENOVO 2518AS G/2518ASG Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.852880] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffffa055d1af>] [<ffffffffa055d1af>] HostIF_SafeRDMSR+0xf/0x30 [v mmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.852964] RSP: 0018:ffff8800b587bb88 EFLAGS: 00010246 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853008] RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: 0000000000000001 RCX: 0000000000000491 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853066] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff880130ca0e10 RDI: 0000000000000491 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853123] RBP: ffff8800b587bb88 R08: 0000000000016740 R09: ffff880009563180 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853192] R10: 0000000001d47ad4 R11: 0000000000003246 R12: 0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853258] R13: ffff880130ca0e00 R14: ffff880130ca0e00 R15: 00007fff9055ef70 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853316] FS: 00007f93f3830700(0000) GS:ffff880137c80000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853382] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853429] CR2: 000000000099ca10 CR3: 000000008d906000 CR4: 00000000000007e0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853487] DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853544] DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853602] Process vmware-vmx (pid: 16810, threadinfo ffff8800b587a000, task ffff88008d363870) Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853671] Stack: Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853690] ffff8800b587bbb8 ffffffffa055db83 ffff8800b587a000 ffff8800b587bfd8 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853770] ffffffffa055db00 ffff8800b587bbf8 ffff8800b587bbe8 ffffffffa055c98e Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853850] ffff880130ca0e00 00000000fffffff4 ffff880130ca0e00 0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853929] Call Trace: Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.853954] [<ffffffffa055db83>] Vmx86GetMSR+0x83/0xd0 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.854005] [<ffffffffa055db00>] ? Vmx86GetUnavailPerfCtrsOnCPU+0x150/0x150 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.854076] [<ffffffffa055c98e>] HostIF_CallOnEachCPU+0x3e/0x80 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.854133] [<ffffffffa055f96c>] Vmx86_GetAllMSRs+0x2c/0x50 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.856516] [<ffffffffa055a6ef>] LinuxDriver_Ioctl+0x70f/0xd40 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.860310] [<ffffffff81116127>] ? unlock_page+0x27/0x30 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.865228] [<ffffffff8113add1>] ? __do_fault+0x441/0x5a0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.870161] [<ffffffff8113dc05>] ? handle_pte_fault+0x95/0xaa0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.873660] [<ffffffff8122ded8>] ? blk_finish_plug+0x18/0x50 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.878192] [<ffffffff8111774a>] ? generic_file_aio_write+0x9a/0xe0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.882633] [<ffffffff8113fc69>] ? handle_mm_fault+0x259/0x320 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.886968] [<ffffffff8147f284>] ? do_page_fault+0x2c4/0x580 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.891136] [<ffffffffa055ad38>] LinuxDriver_UnlockedIoctl+0x18/0x20 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.895207] [<ffffffff811898c7>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x97/0x530 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.899191] [<ffffffff81177dd8>] ? vfs_write+0x138/0x180 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.902989] [<ffffffff81189df9>] sys_ioctl+0x99/0xa0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.906695] [<ffffffff814830a9>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.910384] Code: 83 c4 01 e8 b4 60 bc e0 44 89 e0 48 3b 43 08 72 e9 48 89 df e8 63 65 c0 e0 eb 9e 90 55 48 89 e5 66 66 66 66 90 31 c0 89 c2 89 f9 <0f> 32 31 ff 41 89 c0 48 c1 e2 20 89 f8 4c 09 c2 48 89 16 5d c3 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.918577] RIP [<ffffffffa055d1af>] HostIF_SafeRDMSR+0xf/0x30 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.922409] RSP <ffff8800b587bb88> Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.952670] ---[ end trace f110f8c4d52c197f ]--- Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.952682] note: vmware-vmx[16810] exited with preempt_count 1 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.952808] BUG: scheduling while atomic: vmware-vmx/16810/0x10000002 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.952811] Modules linked in: vmnet(O) parport_pc vsock(O) vmci(O) vmmon(O) ppdev parport fuse ipt_REJECT xt_tcpudp nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_conntrack nf_conntrack hdaps(O) iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables snd_hda_codec_hdmi arc4 microcode aesni_intel aes_x86_64 aes_generic ghash_clmulni_intel uvcvideo cryptd iwlwifi videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops videobuf2_core snd_hda_codec_conexant joydev videodev media kvm serio_raw mac80211 snd_hda_intel btusb snd_hda_codec bluetooth cfg80211 firewire_ohci firewire_core iTCO_wdt sdhci_pci sdhci mmc_core psmouse mei i2c_i801 intel_ips thinkpad_acpi tpm_tis tpm nvram tpm_bios e1000e rfkill snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_timer snd soundcore coretemp crc32c_intel evdev iTCO_vendor_support intel_agp intel_gtt lpc_ich mfd_core crc_itu_t thermal ac battery tun tp_smapi(O) thinkpad_ec(O) cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_conservative acpi_cpufreq mperf processor autofs4 ext4 crc16 jbd2 mbcache sd_mod sr_mod cdrom hid_generic usbhid hid ahci libahci ehci_hcd libata scsi_mod usbcore usb_common nouveau button video mxm_wmi wmi i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper ttm drm i2c_core [last unloaded: parport_pc] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953007] Pid: 16810, comm: vmware-vmx Tainted: G D O 3.5.3-1-ARCH #1 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953009] Call Trace: Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953021] [<ffffffff81472fc4>] __schedule_bug+0x4d/0x59 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953030] [<ffffffff8147ab5a>] __schedule+0x8da/0x920 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953038] [<ffffffff81253462>] ? put_dec+0x72/0x90 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953047] [<ffffffff81159730>] ? alloc_pages_current+0xb0/0x120 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953057] [<ffffffff81082e3a>] __cond_resched+0x2a/0x40 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953064] [<ffffffff8147ac20>] _cond_resched+0x30/0x40 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953070] [<ffffffff8113c981>] unmap_single_vma+0x431/0x820 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953078] [<ffffffff8113d5a2>] unmap_vmas+0x52/0xa0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953085] [<ffffffff811453f2>] exit_mmap+0x92/0x150 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953094] [<ffffffff8104dc11>] mmput+0x61/0x120 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953103] [<ffffffff81056318>] exit_mm+0x108/0x130 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953110] [<ffffffff8147bba5>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irq+0x35/0x40 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953117] [<ffffffff810564a8>] do_exit+0x168/0x940 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953123] [<ffffffff81472a46>] ? printk+0x4d/0x4f Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953131] [<ffffffff81053ff1>] ? kmsg_dump+0xc1/0xd0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953137] [<ffffffff8147cf8d>] oops_end+0x9d/0xe0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953146] [<ffffffff81017848>] die+0x58/0x90 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953153] [<ffffffff8147cad2>] do_general_protection+0x162/0x170 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953159] [<ffffffff8147c3f5>] general_protection+0x25/0x30 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953172] [<ffffffffa055d1af>] ? HostIF_SafeRDMSR+0xf/0x30 [vmmon] : Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953182] [<ffffffffa055db00>] ? Vmx86GetUnavailPerfCtrsOnCPU+0x150/0x150 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953193] [<ffffffffa055db83>] Vmx86GetMSR+0x83/0xd0 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953203] [<ffffffffa055db00>] ? Vmx86GetUnavailPerfCtrsOnCPU+0x150/0x150 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953213] [<ffffffffa055c98e>] HostIF_CallOnEachCPU+0x3e/0x80 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953224] [<ffffffffa055f96c>] Vmx86_GetAllMSRs+0x2c/0x50 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953232] [<ffffffffa055a6ef>] LinuxDriver_Ioctl+0x70f/0xd40 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953240] [<ffffffff81116127>] ? unlock_page+0x27/0x30 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953247] [<ffffffff8113add1>] ? __do_fault+0x441/0x5a0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953255] [<ffffffff8113dc05>] ? handle_pte_fault+0x95/0xaa0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953264] [<ffffffff8122ded8>] ? blk_finish_plug+0x18/0x50 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953270] [<ffffffff8111774a>] ? generic_file_aio_write+0x9a/0xe0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953277] [<ffffffff8113fc69>] ? handle_mm_fault+0x259/0x320 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953284] [<ffffffff8147f284>] ? do_page_fault+0x2c4/0x580 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953293] [<ffffffffa055ad38>] LinuxDriver_UnlockedIoctl+0x18/0x20 [vmmon] Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953299] [<ffffffff811898c7>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x97/0x530 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953307] [<ffffffff81177dd8>] ? vfs_write+0x138/0x180 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953313] [<ffffffff81189df9>] sys_ioctl+0x99/0xa0 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19744.953320] [<ffffffff814830a9>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Sep 1 22:48:57 rory [19745.017963] systemd-journald[130]: Compressed data object 995 -> 664 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory [19745.027176] systemd-journald[130]: Compressed data object 996 -> 668 Sep 1 22:48:57 rory kernel: [19745.296144] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: EvoCh 1 Mthd 0x0080 Data 0x00000000 (0x0006 0x05) Sep 1 22:49:07 rory kernel: [19754.871456] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Failed to idle channel 2. Sep 1 22:49:07 rory kdm[312]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly Sep 1 22:49:10 rory kernel: [19757.960376] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Failed to idle channel 3. Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.922762] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null) Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.924687] IP: [<ffffffffa00c687b>] nouveau_finish_page_flip+0xab/0x1b0 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.926607] PGD 11af51067 PUD 130cee067 PMD 0 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.928519] Oops: 0002 [#2] PREEMPT SMP Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.930400] CPU 0 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.930417] Modules linked in: vmnet(O) parport_pc vsock(O) vmci(O) vmmon(O) ppdev parport fuse ipt_REJECT xt_tcpudp nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_conntrack nf_conntrack hdaps(O) iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables snd_hda_codec_hdmi arc4 microcode aesni_intel aes_x86_64 aes_generic ghash_clmulni_intel uvcvideo cryptd iwlwifi videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops videobuf2_core snd_hda_codec_conexant joydev videodev media kvm serio_raw mac80211 snd_hda_intel btusb snd_hda_codec bluetooth cfg80211 firewire_ohci firewire_core iTCO_wdt sdhci_pci sdhci mmc_core psmouse mei i2c_i801 intel_ips thinkpad_acpi tpm_tis tpm nvram tpm_bios e1000e rfkill snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_timer snd soundcore coretemp crc32c_intel evdev iTCO_vendor_support intel_agp intel_gtt lpc_ich mfd_core crc_itu_t thermal ac battery tun tp_smapi(O) thinkpad_ec(O) cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_conservative acpi_cpufreq mperf processor autofs4 ext4 crc16 jbd2 mbcache sd_mod sr_mod cdrom hid_generic usbhid hid ahci libahci ehci_hcd libata scsi_mod usbcore usb_common nouveau button video mxm_wmi wmi i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper ttm drm i2c_core [last unloaded: parport_pc] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.954926] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.956977] Pid: 16835, comm: X Tainted: G D W O 3.5.3-1-ARCH #1 LENOVO 2518ASG/2518ASG Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.959134] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffffa00c687b>] [<ffffffffa00c687b>] nouveau_finish_page_flip+0xab/0x1b0 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.961338] RSP: 0018:ffff880137c03d08 EFLAGS: 00010082 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.963524] RAX: ffff88012fe6caa8 RBX: ffff88011ad701c0 RCX: ffff88008c6598a8 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.965730] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000001 RDI: ffffffff81817f00 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.967951] RBP: ffff880137c03d58 R08: ffff88012ff5da40 R09: ffff88012ff5da50 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.970193] R10: ffff88012f880178 R11: ffffc90000666000 R12: 0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.972435] R13: ffff88008c6598a0 R14: ffff88012f860ad8 R15: ffff88012f860800 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.974707] FS: 00007f02a419d880(0000) GS:ffff880137c00000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.977015] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.979338] CR2: 0000000000000000 CR3: 000000012f6a4000 CR4: 00000000000007f0 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.981687] DR0: 0000000000000000 DR1: 0000000000000000 DR2: 0000000000000000 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.984041] DR3: 0000000000000000 DR6: 00000000ffff0ff0 DR7: 0000000000000400 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.986408] Process X (pid: 16835, threadinfo ffff88011ad2a000, task ffff88012744a850) Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.988804] Stack: Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.991201] ffff88012ff002c0 0000000000000082 00000000504274c7 000000000001c5c9 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.993581] 0000000000000000 0000000000000001 0000000000000001 ffff88012f860800 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.995901] 0000000000000001 ffff88012f8809a0 ffff880137c03d68 ffffffffa00dc310 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19758.998199] Call Trace: Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.000445] <IRQ> Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.000466] [<ffffffffa00dc310>] mthd_flip+0x10/0x20 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.004905] [<ffffffffa00a6b70>] nouveau_gpuobj_mthd_call+0x60/0x80 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.007127] [<ffffffffa00d552e>] nv04_fifo_isr+0x6de/0x950 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.009339] [<ffffffff8106bc14>] ? wake_up_worker+0x24/0x30 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.011560] [<ffffffffa00a8890>] nouveau_irq_handler+0xa0/0x150 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.013742] [<ffffffff8147bba5>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irq+0x35/0x40 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.015886] [<ffffffff810d28dc>] handle_irq_event_percpu+0x6c/0x260 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.017987] [<ffffffff8105943f>] ? __do_softirq+0x10f/0x210 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.020047] [<ffffffff810d2b18>] handle_irq_event+0x48/0x70 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.022060] [<ffffffff810d5b4a>] handle_fasteoi_irq+0x5a/0x100 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.024033] [<ffffffff810160c2>] handle_irq+0x22/0x40 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.025964] [<ffffffff81484cea>] do_IRQ+0x5a/0xe0 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.027842] [<ffffffff8147c12a>] common_interrupt+0x6a/0x6a Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.029676] <EOI> Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.029693] [<ffffffff8147c2a6>] ? retint_kernel+0x26/0x30 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.033218] [<ffffffff8125cba2>] ? ioread32+0x42/0x50 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.034985] [<ffffffffa00a722c>] ? nv_ro32+0xdc/0xe0 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.036708] [<ffffffffa0131aec>] nv50_display_sync+0x1dc/0x430 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.038403] [<ffffffffa012c0d4>] nv50_crtc_commit+0x44/0xa0 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.040062] [<ffffffffa0076ff5>] drm_crtc_helper_set_mode+0x355/0x500 [drm_kms_helper] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.041728] [<ffffffffa00781b9>] drm_crtc_helper_set_config+0x9f9/0xb10 [drm_kms_helper] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.043383] [<ffffffffa001fe68>] drm_mode_setcrtc+0x118/0x5a0 [drm] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.045022] [<ffffffff814794de>] ? mutex_unlock+0xe/0x10 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.046660] [<ffffffffa00104f3>] drm_ioctl+0x4c3/0x570 [drm] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.048280] [<ffffffffa001fd50>] ? drm_mode_setplane+0x370/0x370 [drm] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.049872] [<ffffffff811898c7>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x97/0x530 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.051428] [<ffffffff811790d7>] ? fget_light+0x97/0x100 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.052975] [<ffffffff81189df9>] sys_ioctl+0x99/0xa0 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.054496] [<ffffffff814830a9>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.056013] Code: 89 45 48 48 8b 45 c8 41 89 45 4c 49 8b 45 18 48 8b 90 b0 00 00 00 48 89 88 b0 00 00 00 48 05 a8 00 00 00 49 89 45 08 49 89 55 10 <48> 89 0a 31 c9 49 8b 7d 18 ba 01 00 00 00 48 81 c7 90 00 00 00 Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.059775] RIP [<ffffffffa00c687b>] nouveau_finish_page_flip+0xab/0x1b0 [nouveau] Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.061435] RSP <ffff880137c03d08> Sep 1 22:49:11 rory kernel: [19759.063053] CR2: 0000000000000000 Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] problem with realtek 8192cu usb wireless card
by Xeslaro 02 Sep '12

02 Sep '12

i bought a usb wireless card TP-Link WN821Nv4 with idVendor=0bda and idProduct=8178, which shows it's a realtek 8192cu card. although i'm using linux kernel 3.2.6, which includes a module called rtl8192cu, from the source i could see there's no support for the specific idVendor and idProduct. i downloaded the driver source from the official realtek website, which does support the idVendor and idProduct, and compiled the driver successfully, i could see wlan1 using ip link show, and there is an entry called wlan1 under /sys/class/net. however, neither iw nor wpa_supplicant would work, they all complain that there is no such device, it seems that the corresponding /sys/class/ieee80211/wlan1 entry is missing. another usb wireless card wlan0 is working normally on the system, and i compared /sys/class/net/wlan0 and /sys/class/net/wlan1, the only one missing is a symbolic link called phy80211 pointing to /sys/class/ieee80211... any idea why this is happening? iw dev wlan1 info command failed: No such device (-19) wpa_supplicant -c someconf -i wlan1 -d wpa_supplicant v1.0 random: Trying to read entropy from /dev/random Initializing interface 'wlan1' conf 'someconf' driver 'default' ctrl_interface 'N/A' bridge 'N/A' Configuration file 'someconf' -> 'someconf' Reading configuration file 'someconf' Priority group 0 id=0 ssid='somessid' Could not open file /sys/class/net/wlan1/phy80211/name: No such file or directory rfkill: initial event: idx=0 type=1 op=0 soft=0 hard=0 nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Try mode change after setting interface down nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Interface mode change to 2 from 0 failed nl80211: Could not configure driver to use managed mode netlink: Operstate: linkmode=0, operstate=6 nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Try mode change after setting interface down nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Interface mode change to 2 from 0 failed wlan1: Failed to initialize driver interface Failed to add interface wlan1 wlan1: Cancelling scan request wlan1: Cancelling authentication timeout dmesg from the wlan1 driver: [ 2537.374661] rtw driver version=v3.4.3_4369.20120622 [ 2537.380171] Build at: Sep 1 2012 13:52:58 [ 2537.385927] register rtw_netdev_ops to netdev_ops [ 2537.391583] CHIP TYPE: RTL8188C_8192C [ 2537.397244] [ 2537.397246] usb_endpoint_descriptor(0): [ 2537.408120] bLength=7 [ 2537.413582] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.419078] bEndpointAddress=81 [ 2537.424544] wMaxPacketSize=200 [ 2537.429913] bInterval=0 [ 2537.435244] RT_usb_endpoint_is_bulk_in = 1 [ 2537.440624] [ 2537.440626] usb_endpoint_descriptor(1): [ 2537.450986] bLength=7 [ 2537.456117] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.461147] bEndpointAddress=2 [ 2537.466243] wMaxPacketSize=200 [ 2537.471125] bInterval=0 [ 2537.475760] RT_usb_endpoint_is_bulk_out = 2 [ 2537.480458] [ 2537.480460] usb_endpoint_descriptor(2): [ 2537.489402] bLength=7 [ 2537.493733] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.497926] bEndpointAddress=3 [ 2537.502099] wMaxPacketSize=200 [ 2537.506073] bInterval=0 [ 2537.509887] RT_usb_endpoint_is_bulk_out = 3 [ 2537.513856] [ 2537.513858] usb_endpoint_descriptor(3): [ 2537.521544] bLength=7 [ 2537.525452] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.529399] bEndpointAddress=84 [ 2537.533343] wMaxPacketSize=40 [ 2537.537275] bInterval=1 [ 2537.541104] RT_usb_endpoint_is_int_in = 4, Interval = 1 [ 2537.545186] nr_endpoint=4, in_num=2, out_num=2 [ 2537.545189] [ 2537.553163] USB_SPEED_HIGH [ 2537.557627] Chip Version ID: VERSION_NORMAL_TSMC_CHIP_92C. [ 2537.562081] RF_Type is 2!! [ 2537.566879] EEPROM type is E-FUSE [ 2537.571336] ====> ReadAdapterInfo8192C [ 2537.576120] Boot from EFUSE, Autoload OK ! [ 2537.723758] EEPROMVID = 0x0bda [ 2537.728133] EEPROMPID = 0x8178 [ 2537.566879] EEPROM type is E-FUSE [ 2537.571336] ====> ReadAdapterInfo8192C [ 2537.576120] Boot from EFUSE, Autoload OK ! [ 2537.723758] EEPROMVID = 0x0bda [ 2537.728133] EEPROMPID = 0x8178 [ 2537.732330] EEPROMCustomerID : 0x00 [ 2537.736555] EEPROMSubCustomerID: 0x00 [ 2537.740796] RT_CustomerID: 0x00 [ 2537.745040] _ReadMACAddress MAC Address from EFUSE = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2537.749722] EEPROMRegulatory = 0x0 [ 2537.754358] _ReadBoardType(0) [ 2537.758898] BT Coexistance = disable [ 2537.763473] RT_ChannelPlan: 0x02 [ 2537.767994] _ReadPSSetting...bHWPwrPindetect(0)-bHWPowerdown(0) ,bSupportRemoteWakeup(0) [ 2537.778058] ### PS params=> power_mgnt(1),usbss_enable(0) ### [ 2537.783578] ### AntDivCfg(0) [ 2537.789119] readAdapterInfo_8192CU(): REPLACEMENT = 1 [ 2537.794760] <==== ReadAdapterInfo8192C in 223 ms [ 2537.801159] rtw_macaddr_cfg MAC Address = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2537.806968] MAC Address from pnetdev->dev_addr= 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2537.816145] bDriverStopped:1, bSurpriseRemoved:0, bup:0, hw_init_completed:0 [ 2537.823404] usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8192cu [ 2823.516027] +871x_drv - drv_open, bup=0 [ 2823.526453] ===> FirmwareDownload91C() fw:Rtl819XFwImageArray_TSMC [ 2823.526459] FirmwareDownload92C accquire FW from embedded image [ 2823.526465] fw_ver=v80, fw_subver=0, sig=0x88c0 [ 2823.554564] fw download ok! [ 2823.554569] Set RF Chip ID to RF_6052 and RF type to 2. [ 2823.961311] IQK:Start!!! [ 2823.981186] Path A IQK Success!! [ 2823.993686] Path B IQK Success!! [ 2824.009685] Path A IQK Success!! [ 2824.021561] Path B IQK Success!! [ 2824.032937] IQK: final_candidate is 0 [ 2824.039247] IQK: RegE94=100 RegE9C=5 RegEA4=f8 RegEAC=3fe RegEB4=101 RegEBC=c RegEC4=f7 RegECC=2 [ 2824.039252] Path A IQ Calibration Success ! [ 2824.060810] Path B IQ Calibration Success ! [ 2824.176811] pdmpriv->TxPowerTrackControl = 1 [ 2824.188067] MAC Address from REG_MACID = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2824.194419] rtl8192cu_hal_init in 678ms [ 2824.200589] MAC Address = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2824.212229] -871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.218500] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready [ 2824.224905] (2)871x_drv - drv_close, bup=1, hw_init_completed=1 [ 2824.212229] -871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.218500] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready [ 2824.224905] (2)871x_drv - drv_close, bup=1, hw_init_completed=1 [ 2824.232313] rtl8192c_set_FwJoinBssReport_cmd mstatus(0) [ 2824.232806] -871x_drv - drv_close, bup=1 [ 2824.234001] +871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.234022] -871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.234485] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready [ 2826.240096] ==>pwr_state_check_handler .fw_state(0) [ 2826.247193] ==> rtw_ps_cmd , enqueue CMD [ 2826.257815] ==>rtw_ps_processor .fw_state(0) [ 2826.265242] ==>ips_enter cnts:1 [ 2826.272692] ==>power_saving_ctrl_wk_hdl change rf to OFF...LED(0x00028208).... [ 2826.272696] [ 2826.294579] ===> rtw_ips_pwr_down................... [ 2826.302083] ====> rtw_ips_dev_unload... [ 2826.332815] usb_read_port_cancel [ 2826.339932] usb_write_port_cancel [ 2826.346315] ==> rtl8192cu_hal_deinit [ 2826.352436] bkeepfwalive(0) [ 2826.358298] card disble without HWSM........... [ 2826.369067] <=== rtw_ips_pwr_down..................... in 75ms

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[arch-general] KDE Dolphin Network Services : Fail to open ftp server
by set 02 Sep '12

02 Sep '12

Hello, On my home network is a UPnP/FTP/Samba server which I can access normally through these protocols from many devices. On ArchLinux, FTP access through a URL in Dolphin's address bar works simply. Browsing fails through the pathway : Network/Network Services/FTP servers/ServerName. Error message (crude translation from French) : can't connect to host servername.local : timeout reached when trying to connect to remote host. The error is displayed immediately. The same attempt succeeds on Fedora 16 in the same home network. Any help to solve this out is welcome. Thanks in advance.

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[arch-general] networkmanager-0.9.6.0-1 - i686
by mike cloaked 01 Sep '12

01 Sep '12

It would be really nice to see the i686 version of this package signed off and moved into [core] - I am hoping for a fix for a laptop that I believe will come with this version - hopefully one of the developers with signing powers and hardware to test it can sign it off soon. -- mike c

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[arch-general] problem with realtek 8192cu usb wireless card
by Xeslaro 01 Sep '12

01 Sep '12

i bought a usb wireless card TP-Link WN821Nv4 with idVendor=0bda and idProduct=8178, which shows it's a realtek 8192cu card. although i'm using linux kernel 3.2.6, which includes a module called rtl8192cu, from the source i could see there's no support for the specific idVendor and idProduct. i downloaded the driver source from the official realtek website, which does support the idVendor and idProduct, and compiled the driver successfully, i could see wlan1 using ip link show, and there is an entry called wlan1 under /sys/class/net. however, neither iw nor wpa_supplicant would work, they all complain that there is no such device, it seems that the corresponding /sys/class/ieee80211/wlan1 entry is missing. another usb wireless card wlan0 is working normally on the system, and i compared /sys/class/net/wlan0 and /sys/class/net/wlan1, the only one missing is a symbolic link called phy80211 pointing to /sys/class/ieee80211... any idea why this is happening? iw dev wlan1 info command failed: No such device (-19) wpa_supplicant -c someconf -i wlan1 -d wpa_supplicant v1.0 random: Trying to read entropy from /dev/random Initializing interface 'wlan1' conf 'someconf' driver 'default' ctrl_interface 'N/A' bridge 'N/A' Configuration file 'someconf' -> 'someconf' Reading configuration file 'someconf' Priority group 0 id=0 ssid='somessid' Could not open file /sys/class/net/wlan1/phy80211/name: No such file or directory rfkill: initial event: idx=0 type=1 op=0 soft=0 hard=0 nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Try mode change after setting interface down nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Interface mode change to 2 from 0 failed nl80211: Could not configure driver to use managed mode netlink: Operstate: linkmode=0, operstate=6 nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Try mode change after setting interface down nl80211: Set mode ifindex 6 iftype 2 (STATION) nl80211: Failed to set interface 6 to mode 2: -19 (No such device) nl80211: Interface mode change to 2 from 0 failed wlan1: Failed to initialize driver interface Failed to add interface wlan1 wlan1: Cancelling scan request wlan1: Cancelling authentication timeout dmesg from the wlan1 driver: [ 2537.374661] rtw driver version=v3.4.3_4369.20120622 [ 2537.380171] Build at: Sep 1 2012 13:52:58 [ 2537.385927] register rtw_netdev_ops to netdev_ops [ 2537.391583] CHIP TYPE: RTL8188C_8192C [ 2537.397244] [ 2537.397246] usb_endpoint_descriptor(0): [ 2537.408120] bLength=7 [ 2537.413582] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.419078] bEndpointAddress=81 [ 2537.424544] wMaxPacketSize=200 [ 2537.429913] bInterval=0 [ 2537.435244] RT_usb_endpoint_is_bulk_in = 1 [ 2537.440624] [ 2537.440626] usb_endpoint_descriptor(1): [ 2537.450986] bLength=7 [ 2537.456117] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.461147] bEndpointAddress=2 [ 2537.466243] wMaxPacketSize=200 [ 2537.471125] bInterval=0 [ 2537.475760] RT_usb_endpoint_is_bulk_out = 2 [ 2537.480458] [ 2537.480460] usb_endpoint_descriptor(2): [ 2537.489402] bLength=7 [ 2537.493733] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.497926] bEndpointAddress=3 [ 2537.502099] wMaxPacketSize=200 [ 2537.506073] bInterval=0 [ 2537.509887] RT_usb_endpoint_is_bulk_out = 3 [ 2537.513856] [ 2537.513858] usb_endpoint_descriptor(3): [ 2537.521544] bLength=7 [ 2537.525452] bDescriptorType=5 [ 2537.529399] bEndpointAddress=84 [ 2537.533343] wMaxPacketSize=40 [ 2537.537275] bInterval=1 [ 2537.541104] RT_usb_endpoint_is_int_in = 4, Interval = 1 [ 2537.545186] nr_endpoint=4, in_num=2, out_num=2 [ 2537.545189] [ 2537.553163] USB_SPEED_HIGH [ 2537.557627] Chip Version ID: VERSION_NORMAL_TSMC_CHIP_92C. [ 2537.562081] RF_Type is 2!! [ 2537.566879] EEPROM type is E-FUSE [ 2537.571336] ====> ReadAdapterInfo8192C [ 2537.576120] Boot from EFUSE, Autoload OK ! [ 2537.723758] EEPROMVID = 0x0bda [ 2537.728133] EEPROMPID = 0x8178 [ 2537.566879] EEPROM type is E-FUSE [ 2537.571336] ====> ReadAdapterInfo8192C [ 2537.576120] Boot from EFUSE, Autoload OK ! [ 2537.723758] EEPROMVID = 0x0bda [ 2537.728133] EEPROMPID = 0x8178 [ 2537.732330] EEPROMCustomerID : 0x00 [ 2537.736555] EEPROMSubCustomerID: 0x00 [ 2537.740796] RT_CustomerID: 0x00 [ 2537.745040] _ReadMACAddress MAC Address from EFUSE = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2537.749722] EEPROMRegulatory = 0x0 [ 2537.754358] _ReadBoardType(0) [ 2537.758898] BT Coexistance = disable [ 2537.763473] RT_ChannelPlan: 0x02 [ 2537.767994] _ReadPSSetting...bHWPwrPindetect(0)-bHWPowerdown(0) ,bSupportRemoteWakeup(0) [ 2537.778058] ### PS params=> power_mgnt(1),usbss_enable(0) ### [ 2537.783578] ### AntDivCfg(0) [ 2537.789119] readAdapterInfo_8192CU(): REPLACEMENT = 1 [ 2537.794760] <==== ReadAdapterInfo8192C in 223 ms [ 2537.801159] rtw_macaddr_cfg MAC Address = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2537.806968] MAC Address from pnetdev->dev_addr= 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2537.816145] bDriverStopped:1, bSurpriseRemoved:0, bup:0, hw_init_completed:0 [ 2537.823404] usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8192cu [ 2823.516027] +871x_drv - drv_open, bup=0 [ 2823.526453] ===> FirmwareDownload91C() fw:Rtl819XFwImageArray_TSMC [ 2823.526459] FirmwareDownload92C accquire FW from embedded image [ 2823.526465] fw_ver=v80, fw_subver=0, sig=0x88c0 [ 2823.554564] fw download ok! [ 2823.554569] Set RF Chip ID to RF_6052 and RF type to 2. [ 2823.961311] IQK:Start!!! [ 2823.981186] Path A IQK Success!! [ 2823.993686] Path B IQK Success!! [ 2824.009685] Path A IQK Success!! [ 2824.021561] Path B IQK Success!! [ 2824.032937] IQK: final_candidate is 0 [ 2824.039247] IQK: RegE94=100 RegE9C=5 RegEA4=f8 RegEAC=3fe RegEB4=101 RegEBC=c RegEC4=f7 RegECC=2 [ 2824.039252] Path A IQ Calibration Success ! [ 2824.060810] Path B IQ Calibration Success ! [ 2824.176811] pdmpriv->TxPowerTrackControl = 1 [ 2824.188067] MAC Address from REG_MACID = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2824.194419] rtl8192cu_hal_init in 678ms [ 2824.200589] MAC Address = 6c:e8:73:bf:97:30 [ 2824.212229] -871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.218500] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready [ 2824.224905] (2)871x_drv - drv_close, bup=1, hw_init_completed=1 [ 2824.212229] -871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.218500] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready [ 2824.224905] (2)871x_drv - drv_close, bup=1, hw_init_completed=1 [ 2824.232313] rtl8192c_set_FwJoinBssReport_cmd mstatus(0) [ 2824.232806] -871x_drv - drv_close, bup=1 [ 2824.234001] +871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.234022] -871x_drv - drv_open, bup=1 [ 2824.234485] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan1: link is not ready [ 2826.240096] ==>pwr_state_check_handler .fw_state(0) [ 2826.247193] ==> rtw_ps_cmd , enqueue CMD [ 2826.257815] ==>rtw_ps_processor .fw_state(0) [ 2826.265242] ==>ips_enter cnts:1 [ 2826.272692] ==>power_saving_ctrl_wk_hdl change rf to OFF...LED(0x00028208).... [ 2826.272696] [ 2826.294579] ===> rtw_ips_pwr_down................... [ 2826.302083] ====> rtw_ips_dev_unload... [ 2826.332815] usb_read_port_cancel [ 2826.339932] usb_write_port_cancel [ 2826.346315] ==> rtl8192cu_hal_deinit [ 2826.352436] bkeepfwalive(0) [ 2826.358298] card disble without HWSM........... [ 2826.369067] <=== rtw_ips_pwr_down..................... in 75ms

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[arch-general] moving custom hooks to systemd
by Dimitrios Apostolou 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Hello list, I tried booting with systemd and two custom hooks I have that create the /var directory on tmpfs didn't work. Google doesn't help here and my experience with systemd is in its infancy, so is there specific action I should take? My custom hooks are set to run during sysinit_postmount and shutdown_preumount, see attached file for full source. Thanks in advance, Dimitris

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[arch-general] systemd-journald-syslog-ng
by Arno Gaboury 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Dear list, I finally managed to boot safely with systemd. I am still wondering if journald is correctly set up. Until now, syslog-ng is STILL unabled. Following the wiki, I changed the line in syslog-ng.conf from: unix-dgram("/var/run/log"); to unix-dgram("/run/systemd/journal/syslog"); and mkdir /var/log/journal but when I look in /var/log/d564e939c66712bce792b0710000017f/system.journal, I only see this: LPKSHHRH I am not sure it is the expected behavior! So my question is this one: shall I remove (or disable syslog-ng unit) to get a list of messages in /var/.../journal? TY for help

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[arch-general] gnome-shell performance problems
by Pico Geyer 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Hi all. I'm having a performance issue with gnome shell and I wonder if anyone can provide me with some advice. Gnome shell seems to be using a lot of my cpu resources. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 949 pico 20 0 1923m 204m 21m S 203.3 5.4 136:04.53 gnome-shell When I enable threaded mode in top (H) is see this: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 953 pico 20 0 1923m 204m 21m R 50.1 5.4 31:22.91 gnome-shell 955 pico 20 0 1923m 204m 21m R 48.7 5.4 31:41.81 gnome-shell 952 pico 20 0 1923m 204m 21m R 47.1 5.4 31:03.14 gnome-shell 954 pico 20 0 1923m 204m 21m R 45.1 5.4 31:22.46 gnome-shell That is it's using about 50% of each of my cores on my quad core system. This high cpu usage starts when I run a command that produces a lot of output on the terminal. For my own use case I was importing the boost repostory into git. git svn clone http://svn.boost.org/svn/boost But the problem can be reproduced using the 'yes' command as well. Can anyone explain this high cpu usage? It happens even if I minimize the window producing the output. Is it worth submitting a bug report for it? I'm on a T510 Lenovo laptop with an updated Arch and I'm using the nouveau driver. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Regards, Pico

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[arch-general] cannot set locale (systemd)
by Thanos Zygouris 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

After upgrading systemd (189-3) and filesystem (2012.8-1) my locale isn't en_US.UTF-8 anymore. Instead, it defaults to C. # cat /etc/locale.conf: LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C # locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_PAPER="C" LC_NAME="C" LC_ADDRESS="C" LC_TELEPHONE="C" LC_MEASUREMENT="C" LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" LC_ALL= I tried to run /etc/profile.d/locale.sh manually, but nothing changed. If i manually export LANG="en_US.UTF-8", it works, but i suspect it's not the "correct" way. So, is there a bug, or i am just missing something?

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[arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.1-1 doesn't run.
by fredbezies 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Hello. I upgraded using testing repository LibreOffice 3.6.1-1... And I cannot test it, it doesn't fully start ! Bootscreen goes half way to load, and then, I got this message : "Impossible de lancer l'application. exception occurred raising singleton "/singletons/com.sun.star.deployment.ExtensionManager": loading component library failed: file:///usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libdeployment.so"; First line can be translated by "Cannot Launch application". Any idea ? Deleting previous profile doesn't help, only downgrading to LibreOffice 3.5.6 :( -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] systemd.mount not authorized
by Arno Gaboury 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Dear list, I boot with systemd and startx. I can't open my USB disk with thunar (XFCE4 file manager) and get this message: Not autorized to perform operation. I understand as a simple user I can not mount it. How can I solve this issue? I couldn't find any clear answer. Thank you

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[arch-general] linux 3.5 and resolution EDID problem
by Shridhar Daithankar 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Hello all, After upgrading to linux-3.5.2, my monitor lost its highest resolution of 1360x768 and went to 1024x768 instead. Downgrading to linux-3.4.9 fixed the issue for the moment. There are some problems reported with linux-3.5-rc4, such as http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2012-June/024455.html. My desktop has Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics controller, which uses i915 module. and I am still experiencing the problem. However unlike the thread on arch forums(https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1153026), I am not experiencing any display corruption. Anything I can do to fix the problem with linux-3.5? Thanks -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] Emacs window color broken after update to 24.2.1
by Nick Lanham 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

The emacs update seems to have broken something in the way emacs displays colors. The portion of the window where there is "nothing" is always displayed with a light grey tint. Screenshots: - starting with -q (i.e. no config): http://i.imgur.com/8ailM.png - with a theme: http://i.imgur.com/rJjB1.png The only thing I set in my .Xdefaults is Emacs*Font A downgrade to 24.1 fixes makes things work again. Cheers, Nick

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[arch-general] Sudo arch wiki
by Kevin Chadwick 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

Cmnd_Alias EDITS = /usr/bin/vim, /usr/bin/nano, /usr/bin/cat, /usr/bin/vi Cmnd_Alias ARCHLINUX = /usr/sbin/gparted, /usr/bin/pacman, /usr/bin/pacman-color root ALL = (ALL) ALL USER_NAME ALL = (ALL) ALL, NOPASSWD: WHEELER, NOPASSWD: PROCESSES, NOPASSWD: ARCHLINUX, NOPASSWD: EDITS The arch wiki docs are usually very good but the sudo page is dangerous. The offered configs suggest adding editors to sudo when sudoedit should only be added and only to a set file otherwise sudo is basically just su and without a password in the example so suid all due to the user being able to edit sudoers or escape the editor. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________

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[arch-general] systemd pulseaudio
by Arno Gaboury 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject Dear list, I am able to boot with systemd. For now, I am still using the mixed systemd installation, until everything is clear. The only issue is with pulseaudio. $ journalctl returns [pulseaudio] module-equalizer-sink.c: resume state exists but is wrong size! I am on XFCE4, and when I start mixer, i have this error: GStreamer was unable to detect any sound device.Some sound system specific Gstreamer packages maybe missing. It may also be a permission problem. In /var/log/errors, I find these entries: localhost pulseaudio[29270]: [pulseaudio] module-equalizer-sink.c: resume state exists but is wrong size! localhost login: pam_systemd(login:session): Failed to release session: Connection was disconnected before a reply was received localhost pulseaudio[2257]: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting. When I start Pulse audio volume control, it is waiting to connect to pulse audio and give me this error in everything.log: localhost kernel: [ 150.080570] pulseaudio[2257]: segfault at 48 ip 00007fdbd3df404e sp 00007fff3b1e9860 error 4 in module-equalizer-sink.so[7fdbd3def000+f000] My music player (ncmpcpp with mpd) is indeed playing music, and I can control volume with the +/- keys. Thank you for help. Reply-To: arnaud.gaboury(a)gmail.com Host: Magnolia on Arch Linux

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[arch-general] systemd and netcfg
by Robbie Smith 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

So I switched to systemd about a week or so ago, and I'm quite impressed with it. One particular feature I like is it's auto-restart of daemons, but this has a tendency to behave oddly with netcfg. My primary internet connection is a mobile broadband one using an external USB modem and pppd via netcfg. systemd does its bit automating the connection, but it does it a little too well: if I disconnect the network interface (say, to switch to a wireless or wired one), systemd will restart my mobile broadband device when it's next physically plugged into the computer, *without* informing netcfg that it's brought the interface up. This effectively blocks me from switching interfaces, as netcfg can't bring down the interface, and killing pppd stops systemd from reconnecting it automatically when I resume from a suspend. How can I get the two to communicate better so I don't get this glitch?

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[arch-general] systemd, locales and gvim
by Matthias Traunsberger 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

I have succesfully migrated to systemd on my desktop-pc and laptop. I'm using German locale, and it's working quite well everywhere in X and in those virtual terminals (Alt+F*), but there is an issue with my laptop that really bugs me. I can't see underscores "_" in gvim. vim isn't affected. My .vimrc is identical on both boxes and doesn't contain any font or locale related settings. Following files are identical on both boxes, too: /etc/locale.conf: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 /etc/vconsole.conf: KEYMAP="de-latin1-nodeadkeys" uncommented lines in /etc/locale.gen and generated with /usr/sbin/locale-gen: de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8 de_DE ISO-8859-1 de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15 Maybe someone can help me with this issue. Cheers, Matthias

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[arch-general] Some funny bloke - 2
by Fons Adriaensen 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'. This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] SystemD poll
by Jérôme Bartand 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

Hi! Yesterday I read on Phoronix that Arch devs are planning to switch to SystemD, but many users are unhappy with this move. You can see a lot of controversy discussion on this list. I have created an online poll to determine the will of the community: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=502d2113e4b02c3adb09a939 Please vote and spread!

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[arch-general] Glibc 2.16.0-2 and /lib problem : the answer ;)
by fredbezies 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

Well, Tom gave the answer. Boot on rescue-CD / rescue USB-key. Remove /lib. And create a symlink : ln -sf /usr/lib lib I think there will be a lot of problem for a lot of users when glibc 2.16.0-x will be uploaded on core. Well, I think I have to do this mistake. I *do* know that forcing wasn't a good idea :| -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] systemd-pulseaudio-no sound card
by Arno Gaboury 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Dear list, I have spent now many hours trying to understand why pulseaudio is not working when I boot with systemd, but works when booting with sysvinit. I found the culprit could be this: [gabx@magnolia:~]$ aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found... What is strange is that all my devices are recognised and modules loaded. $ lspci -v 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 838b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at fa080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8444 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 57 Memory at fa300000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel $ lsmod snd_hda_intel 25700 0 $ loginctl SESSION UID USER SEAT 1 1000 gabx seat0 1 sessions listed. $ loginctl seat-status seat0 ├ /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0 │ (sound:card0) "PCH" ├ /sys/devic...:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1 │ (sound:card1) "NVidia" $ pulseaudio E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. when I open the volum control in XFCE panel: GStreamer was unable to detect any sound device. Some sound system specific GStreamer package maybe missing. It may also be a permissions problem. To sum up, I don't understand why my sound devices are not recognized. I may have misconfigured something in systemd set up, but I have no idea. Thank you for your help, as this is the only issue when booting with systemd.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package
by Heiko Baums 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Am Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:39 -0400 schrieb Dave Reisner <d(a)falconindy.com>: > I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed > on IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough > audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189 > now provides, conflicts, and replaces libsystemd and systemd-tools. > This is the next logical step since systemd will eventually be in > base once we have sufficient unit coverage. > > As an added bonus, maybe this will encourage people who haven't > switched over yet to do so. ;) "Nobody is forcing systemd on anybody." Wasn't it this what was always said by the devs in all those long threads about systemd? And what are you doing now? Isn't this not forcing it on everybody? "Nobody has the intention to build a wall." Heiko

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[arch-general] Raid 1 array with mismatched blocks
by Mauro Santos 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

I have 2 usb disks that are part of a raid 1 array and after checking the array for consistency the mismatch count is not zero. >From all I could find by searching the internet this could be due to disk failure (not the case), or because of user mistake (most probable). In this case one can either blindly repair/resync the array and hope for the best or try to get the correct data before the resync. My doubt here is what would be the best way to access each disk individually (it's raid 1 so it should not be hard) and allow me to copy the correct data, sync the array and write back the correct data. I was thinking about something along the lines of connecting only one disk at a time, issue 'mdadm -R -o /dev/md0' to avoid any more changes between disks, mount the filesystem and check if the files are ok or not. If it helps, I do have a md5sum of all files and I know which files I have written that may not be consistent across disks. -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] systemd-pulseaudio
by Arno Gaboury 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Dear list, I am able to boot with systemd. For now, I am still using the mixed systemd installation, until everything is clear. The only issue is with pulseaudio. $ journalctl returns [pulseaudio] module-equalizer-sink.c: resume state exists but is wrong size! I am on XFCE4, and when I start mixer, i have this error: GStreamer was unable to detect any sound device.Some sound system specific Gstreamer packages maybe missing. It may also be a permission problem. In /var/log/errors, I find these entries: localhost pulseaudio[29270]: [pulseaudio] module-equalizer-sink.c: resume state exists but is wrong size! localhost login: pam_systemd(login:session): Failed to release session: Connection was disconnected before a reply was received My music player (ncmpcpp with mpd) is indeed playing music, and I can control volume with the +/- keys. Thank you for help.

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[arch-general] Is Nouveau 2D or 3D acceleration driver for nVidia cards?
by Kelvin 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

The description of package xf86-video-nouveau ( http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xf86-video-nouveau) is "Open Source 2D acceleration driver for nVidia cards", but Arch Wiki( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau) says that it is "Open Source 3D acceleration graphics driver for NVIDIA cards". Is there any mistakes?

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[arch-general] xf86-video-intel-2.20.5
by Jameson 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Updating xf86-video-intel to 2.20.5 today results in my DRM driver hanging when I try to use compiz. Has anyone else seen this, or am I just lucky with my hardware configuration? Does anyone know of something new that got turned on by default in this version that could result in this: Aug 27 12:39:09 localhost kernel: [ 4.733046] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0 Aug 27 12:42:27 localhost kernel: [ 219.129987] [drm:i915_hangcheck_ring_idle] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle Aug 27 12:42:37 localhost kernel: [ 220.723319] [drm:i915_hangcheck_ring_idle] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle Aug 27 12:42:37 localhost kernel: [ 222.229987] [drm:i915_hangcheck_ring_idle] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle Aug 27 12:42:37 localhost kernel: [ 222.230044] [drm:i915_hangcheck_hung] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung Aug 27 12:42:37 localhost kernel: [ 222.230087] [drm] capturing error event; look for more information in /debug/dri/0/i915_error_state I'll be happy to post more information, and/or a bug later if that will be helpful. For now, I need to get caught back up at work. Thanks, =-Jameson

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[arch-general] iptables forward policy
by Juan Diego Tascón 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Good day, I'm currently configuring a router. I'm setting the default policies to DROP in the INPUT OUTPUT AND FORWARD chains. I'm thinking of setting the default FORWARD policy to ACCEPT as my default INPUT policy is DROP and unless there is a valid FORWARD rule for a given port the packets wont go anywhere. I'm I right on this? or could someone deliberately setup a packet to be forwarded from my router to my lan? all I could find on google was one similar question with no answer :( Thanks

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[arch-general] linux-3.5.x status
by Tobias Powalowski 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Hi guys, 3.5.x is not yet ready to move to [core], - ext4 regression is not fixed yet, will be fixed in 3.5.3 - watchdogs are completely broken I'm not sure how much of a showstopper the watchdogs are, so please shout out if this is a real problem. If you have any other showstopper please let me know. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] khugepaged hangs and filesystem unresponsive
by pants 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Good evening, I just experienced a major problem with my system while listening to a music file in mpd from an xfs filesystem over a mdadm raid6. A kernel error was thrown, with the following error.log entry: output: /var/log/error.log > Aug 26 23:34:50 localhost kernel: [283781.061258] xhci_hcd 0000:0b:00.0: ERROR Transfer event TRB DMA ptr not part of current TD > Aug 26 23:34:50 localhost kernel: [283781.062268] xhci_hcd 0000:0b:00.0: ERROR Transfer event TRB DMA ptr not part of current TD > Aug 26 23:34:50 localhost kernel: [283781.063273] xhci_hcd 0000:0b:00.0: ERROR Transfer event TRB DMA ptr not part of current TD > Aug 26 23:34:50 localhost kernel: [283781.064245] xhci_hcd 0000:0b:00.0: ERROR Transfer event TRB DMA ptr not part of current TD > Aug 26 23:34:51 localhost kernel: [283782.058901] timeout: still 1 active urbs.. > Aug 26 23:38:48 localhost kernel: [284019.080666] INFO: task mpd:707 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:38:48 localhost kernel: [284019.080696] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071419] INFO: task khugepaged:32 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071451] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071589] INFO: task mpd:525 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071613] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071721] INFO: task mpd:707 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071744] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071943] INFO: task mplayer:28316 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:40:48 localhost kernel: [284139.071968] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062189] INFO: task khugepaged:32 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062220] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062358] INFO: task mpd:525 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062382] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062489] INFO: task mpd:702 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062512] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062688] INFO: task mpd:703 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062712] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062829] INFO: task mpd:704 blocked for more than 120 seconds. > Aug 26 23:42:48 localhost kernel: [284259.062852] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. Attempts to access other files on the same filesystem after the incident caused the applications used to also go into interruptible sleep (see the mplayer processes that appear later in the log). I was forced to kill and unmount what I could, then force the system down. Afterwards, I could replicate the error by attempting to read the file in question at the same point Even if you have no solution, pointing me towards the relevant kernel mailing list would be very helpful. Thanks, pants.

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[arch-general] systemd boot errors
by Arno Gaboury 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Dear list, I am testing systemd. I have the following errors at boot: 1-failed to start packet filtering framework iptables is installed on my system 2-boot hangs on at: reached target graphical interface i do not use any login manager. runlevel 3 + startx 3-systemd can't write to journal. I have a message at boot: /var/log/journal/d564e939c66712bce792b0710000017f/fss file does not exist. I have in fact /var/log/journal/d564e939c66712bce792b0710000017f/system.journal. Thank you for any help.

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[arch-general] [PSA] change to locale handling
by Tom Gundersen 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Hi guys, We recently (in [testing]) refactored our locale handling. This should hopefully resolve some long-standing issues, so I though I'd bring it to everyone's attention. For some details see: <https://plus.google.com/114015603831160344127/posts/2zKCcnTWDpa>. Please report any issues/bugs/regressions on the bug tracker. Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] [signoff] syslinux-4.05-7
by Tobias Powalowski 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Hi, we still miss a signoff for i686 anyone who wants to signoff? thanks greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd
by Myra Nelson 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

There has been much ado on the arch-general mailing list about the move to systemd. I participated in part of it, but like others finally tired of "seeing a dead horse kicked" over and over and over. So much so that the last dev who really paid attention to the list said goodbye. Yet the free for all continues. I think a comment on Allan's blog post might illustrate how I perceive this situation. Are We Removing What Defines Arch Linux? Allan McRae posted to Arch Planet on August 13, 2012 03:59 PM It's not about a single file, ie rc.conf (well not completely), it's about the simplicity of the system. Controversy #2 – The demise of /etc/rc.conf While the single rc.conf is highlighted as major feature of Arch Linux, reading the reviews makes you notice that configuration of an Arch install was never down to a single file. Other files mentioned included… But lets take a step back here… How about some quotes from Judd, the founder of Arch Linux: “In Arch “simple” is different what other distros are considering. The learning is more important than getting something easily done.” “Relying on GUIs to build/use your system is just going to hurt a user in the end. At some point in time a user will need to know all that some GUIs hide.” My question becomes, are we trading the simplicity and ease of setting up a single individuals computer, not corporate or work machine, or a set of two or three home machines for the trappings of the corporate desktop? Are we trading learning the shell (bash or otherwise) and learning to write bug free shell scripts, for learning a set or arbitrary and possibly arcane rules, decided upon in a building somewhere in the world, by someone who knows how to use your computer better than you do? We've already seen the likes of those already seen with polkit and consolekit. Even with udev moving into systemd, an individual on the systemd mailing list has already stated his desire to finally be rid of udev altogether. He considers it an abomination. As to the standardization mentioned, does not such standardization remove one's freedom? I'm not an RMS fan, so don't go there. However, I am old enough to remember when there was no choice for home computers, and a commercial by Apple for the first Mac using the idea of breaking out of 1984 and the dull boring corporate world. Now here we are moving the one OS that's stayed somewhat of a maverick into the stable, then out to pasture to graze with with the rest of the corporate world. At least IMHO. It's not about changing Arch, it's about becoming part of the corporate structure and playing nice with everyone else. You can read that line with the knowledge "Old hippies die hard. And I still don't trust the establishment as far a I can throw my house!" Interoperability is necessary in today's world, but I think it can be done with out sacrificing the heart and soul of Linux. When it comes to the move of lib and lib64 to /usr/lib, I'm basically ambivalent. I still don't like not being able to put /usr on a separate partition, I know there's a mkinitcpio hook to cover that, but I can see the logic in cleaning up the system. I've never really cared for the mess of the LSB. IMHO systemd is for administrators who, unlike Judd Vinet, want to hide the system setup from the user with fancy gui's and not allow anyone but the sysadmin to make any changes. I laud the devs who are working on this project, but I ask you to consider "Is it better for Arch to lead one of the last bastion's of freedom when using Linux into lock step with the the PTB's, or would it be better to develop an alternative that keeps, not just Arch Linux, but Linux a viable alternative to OSX, Windows, any Unix/BSD environment, and the corporate world?" I know it's the simpler, and probably less stressfull solution, but is it the better solution? I firmly believe more discussions like this on the ml would be more productive than the brawls we've seen lately. It also might provide the dev's an opportunity to participate more instead of throwing their hands up in the air and saying never again. To me the mailing list has become reactive. Too many responses, I've been guilty of this, come from predetermined ideas which may or may not be rooted in fact. They may be rooted in the users experience which may have been affected by other circumstances such as the dependency hell being created by the tighter and tighter upstream integration by KDE and Gnome. This again signals the move towards a "corporate desktop environment". A wise unix guru, can't remember the name right now, said something to the effect "the system should be a set of well written programs loosely connected programs, each doing one thing and doing it well". Something many of today's programs don't accomplish. As I said on the arch-general mailing list. These are the battles that have spawned many a linux distro and there is always LFS, even though they moved to use udev inside systemd. Myra Nelson To those who I bcc'd this to; I would like to humbly appologize if I intruded on your personal space, but I wanted to make sure it would be read by you in your own private space without the need to filter through the BS that's likely to occur on the ml. -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] simple trick to make dealing with python 2/3 scripts easier
by Ben Booth 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Lots of python scripts still use #!/usr/bin/python instead of explicitly stating which version of python to use. Here's quick trick to make running various python version 2 or 3 scripts easier: remove the /usr/bin/python symlink and replace with this shell script: #!/usr/bin/env bash exec /usr/bin/"${PYTHON:-python3}" "$@" Now you can set the PYTHON environment variable to be either python2 or python3, depending on which version of python the script expects. Just don't set PYTHON=python, or you'll get a recursive loop! The only problem with this approach is that /usr/bin/python is owned by the python package, so if you upgrade the python package it might create problems. Any one know of some way to work around this problem?

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Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-intel-2.20.5
by Tobias Jansson 27 Aug '12

27 Aug '12

Hello. I run the Asus Zenbook UX31E sporting a Intel HD 3000. For me the upgrade posed no issues. It won't help you fix your problems, but at least other users could try upgrading knowing that not all users have issues. Regards, Tobias

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package
by Geert Hendrickx 27 Aug '12

27 Aug '12

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 17:15:39 -0400, Dave Reisner wrote: > Hi, > > I apologize for this being somewhat after-the-fact. It was discussed on > IRC, but that of course doesn't necessarily cater to a wide enough > audience. Some of you have probably already noticed that systemd 189 now > provides, conflicts, and replaces libsystemd and systemd-tools. This is > the next logical step since systemd will eventually be in base once we > have sufficient unit coverage. > > As an added bonus, maybe this will encourage people who haven't switched > over yet to do so. ;) A systemd upgrade question (not related to this particular update), do you generally need to reboot when systemd is upgraded? Geert -- geert.hendrickx.be :: geert(a)hendrickx.be :: PGP: 0xC4BB9E9F This e-mail was composed using 100% recycled spam messages!

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[arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd
by Felipe Contreras 26 Aug '12

26 Aug '12

Hi, I just became aware that Arch Linux plans to switch to systemd, and this worries me for several reasons. I tried systemd a while ago in a brand new machine with Arch Linux and the boot was *much slower*. After some exchanges with Lennart Poettering and other people in Google+[1], it became clear I was on my own. Eventually I found the culprit: Fedora uses CONFIG_HZ_1000, and Arch Linux uses CONFIG_HZ_300. It became clear to me that systemd was not ready for prime time, it wasn't thoroughly tested in a lot of machines, and if you have problems Lennart Poettering will blame you (PulseAudio sounds familiar?). systemd was the reason I stopped using Fedora in the first place; when they moved to it my machine stopped booting reliably. My configuration was non-standard (a single encrypted partition), so I guess they never tested that. Similarly, I expect many Arch Linux users to bite these corner-cases. Finally, it's much harder to debug. If you have a problem you will not be able to open a script and figure out what is happening, and perhaps modify it, and debug it. You would be greeted with an unmodified binary, and the source code would be along these lines: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/remount-fs/remount-fs.c I'm sure in due time systemd will be ready, and will have nice advantages, but I doubt that's the case right now. Has anybody looked into the CONFIG_HZ issue? I doubt that. I was expecting more from the Arch Linux community, something along the lines of Google's analysis to pick to mercurial[2], but so far I have only seen a couple of people saying +1 in the development mailing list, with barely any explanation at all. Such an important move (one that might make users' machines stop booting) should warrant at least an analysis of some sort, with clear advantages. Would it not? At the moment I am unconvinced; does systemd has any *real* advantage? I don't think so; the potential of breakage outweighs the "supposed" advantages, and I think a proper analysis would show that. Cheers. [1] https://plus.google.com/108736516888538655285/posts/BTG39o6YoGS [2] http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/DVCSAnalysis -- Felipe Contreras

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[arch-general] /etc/dbus-1/systemd/cups.conf and /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.socket files
by Myra Nelson 26 Aug '12

26 Aug '12

After my research on sysvinit, the simple version, I'm working my way through systemd. Two things I noticed about the cups configuration: 1: The cups.conf file in /etc/dbus-1/systemd reads <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN" "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd"> <busconfig>  <policy user="root"> <allow send_interface="com.redhat.PrinterSpooler"/> </policy>  <policy context="default"> <allow receive_interface="com.redhat.PrinterSpooler"/> </policy> </busconfig> Do the allow send and allow receive interfaces need to be changed, or is this taken into account by the rest of systemd? 2. The /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.socket reads [Unit] Description=CUPS Printing Service Sockets [Socket] ListenStream=/var/run/cups/cups.sock ListenStream=631 ListenDatagram=0.0.0.0:631 BindIPv6Only=ipv6-only [Install] WantedBy=sockets.target What is the recommended best practice for dealing with this when you have no access to IPv6? Our satellite console supports IPv4 only so previously everything has been set up on 192.168.???.??. With the newer version of cups depending on avahi and the differences in the avahi hosts file and the hosts file, avahi uses gandalf.local while hosts still uses .localdomain. https://lwn.net/Articles/485617/ I'm not trying to be dense here, but some of this seems to be at cross purposes. That or this is something sysadmins on large systems do all the time and those of us with small installations haven't had to deal with yet. As with some of my other posts, trashing systemd etc and those behind it accomplishes nothing. If you can't say anything constructive, STFU. I apologize for offending anyone, but this would be easier with out all the BS, and I don't mean bikeshed. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Stapler-git not working
by Randy 26 Aug '12

26 Aug '12

Hello, Is anyone here using "stapler-git" from the AUR? I'm trying to use it to combine two pdf files into one and it's not working for me. When using the command "stapler cat 1.pdf 2.pdf output.pdf" it just returns the message "error". Could someone try this to see if it works ok? Thanks

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[arch-general] systemd native files in etc
by Qadri 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Hi all, Given all the hullabaloo about systemd I thought I'd try it out. I went to the wiki and saw that it has listed several "native systemd configuration files" that it looks for, and if they're absent, it takes info from rc.conf. It's "strongly advised" (by the wiki) to use the native files. Is there a package that provides these /etc files, like hostname, vconsole.conf, locale.conf? It feels weird creating untracked files in /etc. Is there interest in an aur package (e.g. systemd_etc_files) that I could make with all the many comments and options that are essentially in the rc.conf (or other files)? What package will eventually provide these? MAQ.

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[arch-general] secondary dns with zone transfer
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

is there any free secondary dns provider that supports zone transfer? BTW: well, this is kind of off topic as it hasn't to do with arch, but help is needed... :P thanks in advance! -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] DMX USB support in AUR
by Sébastien Leblanc 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Hi everyone, I created a package for the Enttec Open DMX USB driver. It is available in the AUR under the name dmx_usb-git. >From Wikipedia: DMX512 is a standard for digital communication networks that are commonly used to control stage lighting and effects. It was originally intended as a standardized method for controlling light dimmers -- Sébastien Leblanc

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[arch-general] lib -> usr/lib move, glibc and curl
by Christian Hesse 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Hello everybody, I just updated an old system and had to go through the lib -> usr/lib move. I did an pacman -Syud --ignore glibc and ended in a broken package manager. pacman is linked against libcurl, which is compiled against glibc 2.16.0 and includes versioned symbols. Luckily I had an old curl package around to temporarily fix the problem and update the system. Others may be out of luck, so... Do you think this needs some more investigation? -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);}

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[arch-general] Cannot chainload arch core.img from legacy GRUB installed in MBR.
by Juan R. de Silva 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

While installing and configuring grub-bios files for my new Arch installation I followed GRUB2 wiki article. In the section "Install grub-bios boot files" I opted to the option "Generate core.img alone" to "generate a /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img file without embedding any grub-bios bootsector code in the MBR, post-MBR region, or the partition bootsector". At this point GRUB2 article says:"You can then chainload GRUB2's core.img from GRUB Legacy or syslinux as a Linux kernel or a multiboot kernel." I also generated grub.cfg file as per GNOME2 wiki, though it was not totally clear to me why this step was required for "Generate core.img alone" option. To chainload my new installation I entered the following lines in menu.lst of my Legacy GRUB installed in MBR: title Arch Linux 2012.8.04 (/dev/sda3) root (hd0,2) kernel /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img While trying to chainload Arch my Legacy GRUB just hangs up displaying the last line without error messages. Am I missing something, or the installation instructions are erroneous? Could somebody help me, please? Thanks.

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[arch-general] dovecot postfix + mysql
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

I've setup a mail server according to arch linux wiki post: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Simple_Virtual_User_Mail_System while everything works without any error, I can send email from roundcube but can't receive any. please tell me what more info you need to help me figure out the problem thanks in advance -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] Libreoffice Impress 3.5.6-1 - problems opening *.ppt
by Lorenzo Bandieri 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

Hi everyone, Yesterday I upgraded Libreoffice from 3.5.5-1 to 3.5.6-1, and I started to notice problems opening several *.ppt files. When I double click on the ppt, an "ASCII Filter Options" popup appears - I never saw this popup before. Anyway, I have to click "Ok" for Libreoffice to start importing the presentation. The problem is that after this operation is completed, Libreoffice doesn't show the *.ppt as usual; instead, the window remains blank for a long time, and I have to force quit. I tried this with several *.ppt files (at first I thought about a corrupted file), and this happened with every one. Downgrading the package to 3.5.5.1 solves the issue, and the files are displayed fine. Now, I'm not sure if this 'ASCII Filter Options' thing is a feature or a bug. Is anyone else seeing this? I didn't find anything related on the forum. Thanks for your time, Lorenzo

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[arch-general] systemd-readahead
by Paul Gideon Dann 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

Hello all, Does anyone know if system-readahead is supposed to work in our current package? For me, there is an error message during boot (something about an event being too large to process), and there is no /.readahead file created. systemctl also reports a non-zero exit status, but no log entry, and I can't find the actual error message in the journal or dmesg. Does someone have this working? Paul

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[arch-general] Michael Kohlhaas
by Ralf Mardorf 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kohlhaas Perhaps this helps. I'm a Don Quixote myself. I don't know how known Michael Kohlhaas is in other countries, but Germany. Please, stop all discussions about systemd. It's better for you blood pressure. No joke, I own an http://www.docmorris.de/images/3159451_b.jpg;jsessionid=855AD7284858349B54B… Really, it's measurable. It's not Linux because I need to measure my blood pressure ;), but I've got the gear at hand. ;) :p :D Since I'm not involved in this discussion, I feel much better, measurable better! Hth ;), Ralf

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[arch-general] Virtualbox Linux guest performance very slow
by Ralf Mardorf 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

Hi :) the host is an Arch Linux 64bit install. I run Windows XP 32bit as guest, getting a very good, fast performance. I installed Fedora 17 64bit as guest and the performance is slow, the mouse cursor is moving in slow motion. Is there anything I can do to get a better performance? Regards, Ralf PS: I also will install a backup of my Arch Linux as guest and then switch to systemd for this guest ;) ;) ;) ;) ;). At the moment I got caught in playing with LVM for the Fedora install, since I never used it before, but systemd will be the next experiment.

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[arch-general] openldap unit file ignores /etc/conf.d/slapd?
by Geert Hendrickx 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

I've recently been testing systemd. One issue I encountered is with slapd, the unit file ignores /etc/conf.d/slapd. Is this a bug, or am I supposed to configure cmd line arguments (specially SLAPD_SERVICES) another way with systemd? Geert -- geert.hendrickx.be :: geert(a)hendrickx.be :: PGP: 0xC4BB9E9F This e-mail was composed using 100% recycled spam messages!

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[arch-general] kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement: NetworkManager is not running. Please start it.
by Martin Zecher 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

First of all, I know this has been talked about many times already, but I still have this problem (since about 3 months now) and haven't found a way to fix it. Most of the info is in this thread, but no one seems to be following it so I decided to ask in mail list: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1147741#p1147741 I use systemd + KDM + KDE Whenever I login into KDE, the applet says "NetworkManager is not running. Please start it." Networkmanager is indeed running and connects fine to previously configured networks. If I logout from KDE, restart networkmanager daemon in a shell and the relogin into KDE, it works fine. I am in this groups: adm tty disk lp wheel uucp hal network video audio optical floppy storage scanner power users lapsus networkmanager adbusers lpadmin boinc I also tried with testing's networkmanager 0.9.6.0-1 and kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement 1:0.9.0.4-1 without luck. I would really appreciate some help with this annoyance. -- Martin Código de novios Falabella: 585855-00 (gracias!) No envíen archivos pesados por mail. Usen DropBox <https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTIwODk0MDk> (2GB + *500MB bonus*) o SpiderOak<https://spideroak.com/download/referral/dd6b3051b5f1f10a5674d694f22dd3e8>(tras registrarse vayan a 'buy more space' e ingresen el código "worldbackupday" --> *8GB*)

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[arch-general] systemd: Disable dhcpcd
by Simon Perry 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Hi all, Today I've set up one of my VPS boxes with systemd after using it for a while on various laptops. I'm using netcfg(a)eth0.service to configure a static IP, however it seems that systemd insists on starting dhcpcd, and this screws up my resolv.conf. After a fair bit of looking around, I haven't found a solution to this, can anyone enlighten me on how to stop dhcpcd from being started as it's not needed? I simply can't find any unit in /etc/systemd that would be doing it. Cheers. -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz)

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[arch-general] irqbalance: /usr/lib/systemd/system/irqbalance.service exists in filesystem
by Martín Cigorraga 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Since yesterday I'm receiving this error message when uprgading the irqbalance systemd service, as this happened again some days ago when upgrading dhcpd systemd service, I follow Tom G. advise and waited for repos to update but this time there were more than 24hs, several mirror changes and the problem still exists, any idea? BTW, I did a quick bbs search but there's nothing there yet. (4/4) checking for file conflicts [---------------------------------------] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) irqbalance: /usr/lib/systemd/system/irqbalance.service exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. ~ $ Regards, Martin

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[arch-general] grub2 + luks + keyfile
by Adrian Pop 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Hello, I'm trying to configure grub2 to read a keyfile from a usb flash drive in order to decrypt the root partition. The grub2 wiki page specifies that in order to decrypt the root partition, the following should be added in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:root" Also an earlier version of the luks wiki page, that was intended for grub-legacy, mentioned that to decrypt the root partition using a keyfile, the following kernel parameter has to be added: cryptkey=/dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid>:vfat:/keyfile So I've attempted to add both of these parameters in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:root cryptkey=/dev/disk/by-uuid/3848-EFD5:vfat:/keyfile" I've also added the encrypt hook and vfat module in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf. This is displayed while booting up: :: running early hook [udev] :: running hook [udev] :: Triggering uevents... :: running hook [encrypt] Waiting 10 seconds for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/3848-EFD5 ... Keyfile could not be opened. Reverting to passphrase. The usb flash drive is formated with mkfs.vfat and contains just the keyfile. I would greatly appreciate any advice.

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Re: [arch-general] grub2 + luks + keyfile
by Adrian Pop 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Seems I forgot to add the usb hook. It works now. Thank you for replying and directing my attention towards mkinitcpio.

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Re: [arch-general] systemd: Disable dhcpcd
by Zeke Sulastin 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

> I'm using netcfg(a)eth0.service to configure a static IP, however it seems > that systemd insists on starting dhcpcd, ... > ... can anyone enlighten me on how to stop dhcpcd from being started as it's > not needed? I simply can't find any unit in /etc/systemd that would be > doing it. In your actual netcfg profile "eth0", what is IP set to? On my own home server, IP='static' (with ADDR, GATEWAY, and DNS defined after) and dhcpcd is not started by netcfg (run from netcfg.service). -ZekeS

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[arch-general] BTRFS, Rollback, Grub2
by 1126 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Hello List! I can't seem to get rollback-support from mkinitcpio-btrfs to work properly. I've installed ArchLinux more or less like it is shown in the wiki-article btrfs-on-root: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_on_Btrfs_root I changed it some, because I wanted to install ArchLinux on an encrypted btrfs-root. But my root-partition contains a __snapshot folder and an __active subvolume, but no subvolumes for __home and __usr and such, because I want to be able to make complete snapshots of my system. But when I want to create a snapshot, it asks me where I want to do it, but I can't give __snapshot as target-folder, because it don't exists in my system... ;) So: how should my btrfs-root be mounted in order to be able to make full use of the rollback-feature provided by mkinitcpio-btrfs? Thanks in advance for your help, Christian.

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[arch-general] Running Spin
by andrea crotti 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

I was trying again to use spin after a long time, and it doesn't seem to work on arch anymore: [Src6.2.2]$ ./spin ../Samples/p102.pml sh: /lib/cpp: No such file or directory spin: preprocessing failed I first installed it from AUR and then compiled it myself, compiling doesn't give any problem but running anything give the above problem.. Anyone saw that too?

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[arch-general] Fine-tuning font settings (GTK?)
by Robbie Smith 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

Although it's improved a lot, I still get the occasional colour fringes around some glyphs, and I find that really distracting. Yet for some reason the subpixel rendering seems set as default, and no setting I change switches back to the greyscale rendering that looks far better to me. This only affects GTK+ applications, and I only get the fringes around a handful of characters on black-on-white, but it's enough to be noticeable when I'm tired or I have the screen brightness turned up. I've tried changing settings locally in ~/.config/gtk3/settings.ini, I've tinkered with the settings in /etc/fonts (including creating a custom style with Infinality), and yet it still persists. Does anyone know how to fix it? I have these settings in fontconfig's conf: <match target="font"> <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"> <const>none</const> </edit> <edit name="hinting" mode="assign"> <bool>true</bool> </edit> <edit name="autohint" mode="assign"> <bool>true</bool> </edit> <edit name="antialias" mode="assign"> <bool>true</bool> </edit> <edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"> <const>hintslight</const> </edit> <edit name="lcdfilter" mode="assign"> <const>lcddefault</const> </edit> </match> And the GTK settings.ini has: gtk-xft-antialias = 1 gtk-xft-hinting = 1 gtk-xft-hintstyle = hintslight gtk-xft-rgba = none

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Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll
by John Briggs 19 Aug '12

19 Aug '12

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:05:27PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > > In all of the discussion about systemd, all anyone should care about is: > > (1) Does systemd provide *needed* additional capabilities that are not > currently available; > > (2) What are they? > > (3) What are the disadvantages of the switch? > > (4) Do the advantages significantly outweigh the disadvantages, taking into > consideration the time, talent and energy required to implement the change (for > both the developers and end-users)? > > If it is justified -- do it. If it is just being pushed because it is somebody > pet project, then seriously consider impacting all end-users before foisting the > change on them. > My personal experiences with systemd: My interest was piqued when it was first mentioned in the lists so I read all the blogs, man pages and other wide ranging discussions about it on the Internet. Utterly confused I decided to tentatively try it on one of my boxes. Since then the software in the Arch Repositories has slowly matured and I personally do not find, as a user, much difference from the original Arch init scripts. Pros: Faster boot times Cleaner boot screens, -quiet option enabled Cons: udev is now tightly integrated with systemd. Systemd is not KISS. IMHO systemd is unnecessarily complex in trying to do too many separate tasks. One of the big reasons I embraced GNU/Linux over 18 yrs ago is because of its KISS principle. At that time I was disolusioned with both MS Windows and IBM OS/2. GNU/Linux's policy then was KISS and one program for each needed task compared to IBM and MS policies of monolythic operating systems. Since that time I have watched GNU/Linux slowly degenerate from simplicity to complexity and IMHO systemd is just another step along this road of progress. IMHO the cost of Linux embracing complexity is a loss of freedom. We must all decide personally if we are willing to pay this price or we remain true to the principles of GNU/Linux and abandon this type of software. At this time we as Arch users do not have to make this decision but we will shortly. Please no flame wars Regards John

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[arch-general] UPnP server for a arch router
by Zachary (Asian) 19 Aug '12

19 Aug '12

hello, i am moving to a dorm soon and i plan on using a archlinux box as a router. to keep from messing with iptables every 5 seconds, i was wondering if there was a good, easy to setup upnp server.

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[arch-general] Broken perl packages "Justin Davis (juster) "
by David C. Rankin 18 Aug '12

18 Aug '12

All, When attempting to build in an archroot this morning, the build failed due to unknown trust signatures on perl packages. Can I pass an argument to makechrootpkg to overcome the error? The error were as follows (email blanked): Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... error: perl-lwp-mediatypes: signature from "Justin Davis (juster) <-----(a)gmail.com>" is unknown trust error: perl-net-http: signature from "Justin Davis (juster) <-----(a)gmail.com>" is unknown trust error: perl-www-robotrules: signature from "Justin Davis (juster) <-----(a)gmail.com>" is unknown trust error: perl-libwww: signature from "Justin Davis (juster) <-----(a)gmail.com>" is unknown trust error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] time zone problem with systemd
by Shridhar Daithankar 18 Aug '12

18 Aug '12

Hello, I am having trouble with time on a machine when I boot with systemd. The clock is ahead of actual time by the value of time zone offset. Funny thing is when I boot with initscripts, time is reported correctly. I have this problem on one machine but other machine works correctly. The only difference I can spot is hwclock reports local time, on the machine where time is correct. Whats the magic that I am missing? with systemd --------------------------- [shridhar@waman ~]$ date Sat Aug 18 14:23:16 IST 2012 [shridhar@waman ~]$ cat /etc/timezone Asia/Kolkata [shridhar@waman ~]$ ls -al /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Aug 11 02:02 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kolkata [shridhar@waman ~]$ cat /etc/adjtime 0.000000 0 0.000000 0 UTC [shridhar@waman ~]$ grep -i hwclock /etc/rc.conf DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng dbus network crond @cpufreq @openntpd @dnsmasq @sshd @laptop-mode kdm) [shridhar@waman ~]$ grep -i hardware /etc/rc.conf [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:26:28 PM IST -0.110228 seconds [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock -u Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:29:35 PM IST -0.375925 seconds --------------------------- with initscripts --------------------------- [shridhar@waman ~]$ date Sat Aug 18 08:44:09 IST 2012 [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:33:05 PM IST -0.146140 seconds [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock -u Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:33:10 PM IST -0.438390 seconds --------------------------- -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] Personal note
by Tom Gundersen 18 Aug '12

18 Aug '12

Hi guys, As most devs have done already, I'm going to change my relationship with arch-general. This probably does not matter to most of you, so sorry for the noise. Then again, it might be a useful reminder about how most devs interact with the list (or rather, how they do not). My approach to arch-general used to be: 1) to scan it for bug reports and feedback related to "my" corner of the Arch world, and follow up on whatever bugs/problems/questions I could. 2) to correct anything that I considered misinformation about the same. I am no longer able to keep up with this, so I will: 1) stop dealing with bugs reported on the mailing-list, please report anything to the bug tracker. 2) just accept that the world is full of misinformation and baseless speculations and not engage with it any longer. This is mostly for the sake of my own sanity, but also because I think my continued presence on this mailing list decreases rather than increases the current abysmal quality of discussion. Lastly, I'd like to add that I have appreciated the many constructions conversations on the list. Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] No working sound with systemd and pulseaudio ?
by fredbezies 18 Aug '12

18 Aug '12

Hello. Yesterday, I wanted to test systemd, and all worked well, thanks to the wiki. For this test, I used a VirtualBox machine with archlinux in it. I didn't want to bust my main computer. There is big problem. Audio is not working. Every single time sound is needed, I got something like this in my /var/log/errors.log [pulseaudio] bluetooth-util.c: org.bluez.Manager.ListAdapters() failed: org.freedesktop.systemd1.LoadFailed: Unit dbus-org.bluez.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.bluez.service' for details. It is blocking every sound, even if soundcard is well detected. Packages lists : PulseAudio 2.1-1 systemd 188-2 systemd-arch-units 20120704 systemd-sysvcompat 188-2 I have the same kind of logs with my main computer, with classical initscripts, but at least, sound is working. [pulseaudio] bluetooth-util.c: org.bluez.Manager.ListAdapters() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Any idea ? Thanks ! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd
by Calvin Morrison 18 Aug '12

18 Aug '12

On 14 August 2012 10:57, Stéphane Gaudreault <stephane(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Systemd has a overall better design than SysV, lots of useful administrative > features and provide quicker boot up. Considering that it has been around in > our repositories for some time and that it could be considered stable enough > for production use, I would suggest to replace iniscript by systemd once the > 'Missing systemd units' is over. Thus we will avoid duplicating our efforts > on two init systems. > > Any objections to start the migration process ? > > Cheers, > > Stéphane > > I'd love to see the overall advantages and disadvantages of each of those fleshed out on a page where I can read them - I know I can't order anyone to do it, and my comment doesn't effect the outcome, but I would really like to see a good explanation of the advantages in an unbiased (aka not by LP) explanation of why it is better for arch. Is systemd suckless? is it easy to maintain? is it going to around for several years? have we considered Upstart? what about OpenRC? before Arch jump ship, I would love to see some good details. I have been trying to keep up Tom's posts on the general, so maybe I should revisit them. Calvin

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[arch-general] Arch-general is becoming a mess !
by fredbezies 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Hello. I'm an old archlinux user (first installation back in december 2008), and for a long time, I was very satisfied with arch-general. But some people - can we define them as bottom holes ? - are rotting this mailing list, and the community too. Last threads on systemd was useless. And I can understand that every single developer will unsuscribe. As a user, I will do so too. I think archlinux community needs a little clean up and kick the bottom of people who are not arguing but messing lists. I won't post anymore on this list, but I wanted to express my mind here. Please, excuse my bad english, it is 10 pm where I live. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] /etc/modules-load.d | /etc/modprobe.d -- options determinative?
by David C. Rankin 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Guys, Reading the wiki pages regarding /etc/modules-load.d and /etc/modprobe.d, is the only difference that makes /etc/modules-load.d to correct place for the <moduleconfname>.conf file a lack of options required on module load? Or put another way, if options need to be provided along with the module name on load, then use /etc/modprobe.d/<moduleconfname>.conf otherwise if just the module name is required, use: /etc/modules-load.d/<moduleconfname>.conf? That was the only difference I saw in their use in the wiki. Anything else? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] systemd
by Fred Verschueren 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

First of all I 'm new user of these distribution list and I do not know if this is the correct place to post my problem and ask for help. If not my apology and please refer me to to the correct place. I' m using Arch now for several years on a desktop and a laptob without severe problems. Few days ago I changed to systemd both on the laptop and desktop. For the laptop all went fine and I' m able to boot using systemd and the system is up and running as before. The only difference between laptop and desktop is that the /home partition on the desktop is on a SW raid My problem: When booting with init=/bin/systemd I have the following phenomenon: Job dev-mapper-nvidia_cjjcaiiep1.device/start timed out and booting stops and I'm in a rescue shell. my /home partition is not mounted. /dev/mapper/nvidia_cjjcaiiep1 exists. Systemctl start dev-mapper-nvidia_cjjcaiiep1.device gives the same result timeout. and my /home is not mounted When I do a manual mount of the /home partition mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_cjjcaiiep1 /home /home is mounted Systemctl default my system resumes booting and finally comes online. I 'm new to systemd so if someone can be so kind to give me some hints how / where to start searching for the problem or maybe the problem is already known ... Thanks in advance. Fred

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd
by mike cloaked 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:23 PM, teseo(a)broletto.org <teseo(a)broletto.org> wrote: >> most of which are systems using systemd. Given that so many machines >> are currently running systemd it can't be all that bad! This is of >> > How many machines are currently running Windows*? > Surely that is not particularly relevant - Windows users are largely people who are not computer literate (though some fraction of Windows users are able to do some real hacking but not too many as a fraction of the total). They are users who got Windows as "the" system when they bought their laptops/desktops, and are none the wiser that any alternative exists - on the other hand the majority of linux users are computer literate, hands-on, people who know that they have choices - and if they are using a particular flavour of linux and find they don't like it then they have the knowledge and power to change it and move to a different distribution - so the majority of Windows users who find problems will seek a Windows guru to fix their machine ( or re-install it from scratch, clean up the registry, run "defrag" and other tools to try and get working until Microsoft eventually delivers the next great version of Windows ). On the other hand linux users if they "really" don't like what they see will change their system - if they don't like Gnome they can use KDE, LXDE, XFCE etc - and if they are Fedora users and "really" don't like systemd then they can move to another distribution where systemd is not the default - they have alternatives - So logic would suggest that the inferences drawn from large numbers of linux users is likely to be different from the inference about even larger numbers of Windows users. -- mike c

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd
by teseo＠broletto.org 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Jn Inviato da HTC ----- Reply message ----- Da: "Jorge Almeida" <jjalmeida(a)gmail.com> A: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Oggetto: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd Data: ven, ago 17, 2012 11:48 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM, mike cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com> wrote: > most of which are systems using systemd. Given that so many machines > are currently running systemd it can't be all that bad! This is of > How many machines are currently running Windows*? Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] fprint with gdm
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

hello, can anyone help me use fprint with gdm? su, sudo and login works just nice also, when I try to fprint-enroll wether i specify -f left-index-finger or not, it will ask for my right index thank you in advance! -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] Suspend to ram and uresume hook for systemd
by Myra Nelson 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Since I'm still wading my way through some of the intricacies (read small details) and in view of the recent discussion on libcrypt, keysize, key values, and systemd; I've been using uswsusp-git from the aur and s2ram -f for my suspend command. /etc/suspend.conf has /dev/snapshot and /dev/sda4 (swap) for the image. Suspension and reboot have been working fine. After rebuilding my initramfs image with the uresume hook, when I tried to reboot today the boot process hung at waiting for libgcrypt. In my infinite wisdom, after testing the suspend and reboot several times before using the uresume hook, I had uresume in both images. I don't use encrypted volumes and never have. I chrooted in and rebuilt the initramfs image without the uresume hook, rebooted, and everything worked great. I tried using systemctl suspend from the wiki article. The machine goes down but won't come back up without a complete restart, fsck volumes that were not cleanly unmounted, etc. Since this is a desktop, I really don't need the suspend option, it's just nice to save a little electricity. The systemctl shutdown and sytemctl reboot work great. I admit to not having done a lot of research but based on the recent discussions and changes with systemd, does anyone know what caused this hiccup? Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Pacman, adding comments to the packages
by Joker-jar 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hello, I propose to add the ability to add comments to the packages in pacman. For example, sometimes you need to install packages as a optional or makedepend. I always do it with --as-deps key. Later, when you run "pacman -Qdt" to see and cleanup orphan packages you can't distinguish really orphan packages and packages installed via the reasons, describedabove. In this case comments to the packages could be very useful. Sorry fo my english :)

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[arch-general] Update on Trinity - 2 versions available R14 and 3.5.13-sru
by David C. Rankin 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

All, There have been a few noteworthy developments with the Trinity project for Arch. There will be essentially 2 versions available. The primary focus of the project is currently on TDE 14.0.0 (R14) which is TQt3 based and due to executable renaming, it can be installed along side kde4 without conflict. As R14 development went forward, new updates have been continually backported to the stable 3.5.13 branch of the GIT tree. This has resulted in a completely updated branch of TDE 3.5.13 code which is still Qt3 based and retains all backwards compatibility with KDE 3.5.10. This TDE branch is referred to as (3.5.13-sru). The backporting of updates and patches to 3.5.13-sru has created a branch in the GIT tree that can provide a traditional KDE3/Qt3 desktop built on all current Arch Linux libraries. To Arch users, this is essentially kdemod3.next. I have binaries available for both R14 and 3.5.13-sru that I need to find server space to host on. I have had several downloaded from my home server, but that is just not workable. I would like to get all of the binaries available to anyone interested for testing so that anything overlooked can be discovered and found. (Yes - sftp://whereever now work from any file open/save dialog now :) If anybody knows of available server space or can let me use ~1.2G of space, I can upload all 4 sets of packages R14.0.0/{i686,x86_64} and 3.5.13-sru/{i686,x86_64}. Let me know if you or anyone you know have some to spare. My guess there would probably be a dozen downloads from interested Archers. Let me know. Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Some funny bloke
by Fons Adriaensen 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Some funny bloke just sent me a bogus 'please confirm your request to unsubscribe' message. Probably because I suggested that Lennart's blog is not the ideal place to find unbiased information regarding systemd if you want to inform yourself before participating in the poll. Which is just a fact, confirmed (in private communication) by two systemd advocates, and plainly obvious anyway. For some people apparently any means is OK to silence an opinion they don't agree with. What will be next ? Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd
by Jayesh Badwaik 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hi, Another flame may start here, but I would like to present the following as a pure news, no opinions[1]. Of course, after reading all the discussions on the mailing lists, my feeling after reading the link? Mwuhahahaha. Important quotes from the link ( which I hope do not alter the context of the post): "Well, we intent to continue to make it possible to run udevd outside of systemd. But that's about it. We will not polish that, or add new features to that or anything. OTOH we do polish behaviour of udev when used *within* systemd however, and that's our primary focus. And what we will certainly not do is compromise the uniform integration into systemd for some cosmetic improvements for non-systemd systems. (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop that support entirely.)" -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012- August/006066.html

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[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.4.9-1
by Tobias Powalowski 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hi guys, please signoff 3.4.9 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.5.2 is in [testing]. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] IRC channel
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

hello, I want a private IRC channel for <10 users. with voice chat ability. Do I have to set up my own server, or I can find a free provider for this? Also, if i've to set up a server, which ircd do you recommend? I want it to support voice chat and be very lightweight! -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] citação
by Jorge Almeida 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd
by Karol Blazewicz 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Another point: Someone on the so-called "official" G+ stated: > > "Arch will move to systemd only boot process..." True, but it basically links to http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-August/023389.h… It's an unfortunate wording nonetheless. > 1) Something untrue and/or unprecise is being posted on the "official" G+. > 2) There are claims that this G+ is official. Neither our website, nor > any place else states that there is an official Arch G+ (or Facebook) > page and links to it. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1021913#p1021913 > This G+ has not been approved by developers to be > "official". Yet, someone here claims to be the official G+. Andrea has already replied, but I'll point to the thread about the Arch G+ page: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129923 Andrea wrote there (over half a year ago) "I had to add "official" because there was a couple of duplicates." Maybe this explains things a bit.

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[arch-general] systemd virtual terminals
by David Benfell 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

Hi, Just when I thought I'd solved the systemd issues, it seems broken again, coming back from a power outage. As near as I can tell--and please understand I've never seen behavior quite like this before, so conjecture might be the better term--my virtual terminals aren't coming up at least in a recognizable form. The behavior is weird. systemctl says that lxdm is running on vt07. But I can't access vt07 using the usual <CTRL><ALT>F7 sequence. Also when I log in, the password is visible. I've never ever seen the latter behavior before. Delete key behavior seems erratic and I'm feeling totally disoriented. Fortunately, the network does come up, so I'm able to ssh in from a still-sane system (it's a laptop and it apparently managed to stay up throughout the power outage). I did this, not that it helps much: graton# systemctl --failed UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB JOB DESCRIPTION fancontrol.service loaded failed failed Fan control daemon i2prouter.service loaded failed failed I2P router postgresql.service loaded failed failed PostgreSQL database server rc-local.service loaded failed failed /etc/rc.local Compatibility systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed Load Kernel Modules systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service loaded failed failed Cleanup of Temporary Directories systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service loaded failed failed Recreate Volatile Files and Directories LOAD = Reflects whether the unit definition was properly loaded. ACTIVE = The high-level unit activation state, i.e. generalization of SUB. SUB = The low-level unit activation state, values depend on unit type. JOB = Pending job for the unit. 7 units listed. Pass --all to see inactive units, too. graton# I've tried to disable fancontrol; from what I can see, it will not run on this system, so I don't know why it's still trying to run. i2prouter is just broken on this system and has been for a while. postgresql has also been failing since I converted to systemd, but is not now important. And I thought I'd sorted out the tmp files, but: graton# journalctl | grep tmpfile Aug 14 23:21:36 graton systemd-tmpfiles[421]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.co.... Aug 14 23:21:36 graton systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service: main pro...=1 Aug 14 23:21:36 graton systemd[1]: Unit systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service ente...e. Aug 14 23:35:00 graton systemd-tmpfiles[431]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.co.... Aug 14 23:35:00 graton systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service: main pro...=1 Aug 14 23:35:00 graton systemd[1]: Unit systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service ente...e. Aug 14 23:49:49 graton systemd-tmpfiles[1356]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.c.... Aug 14 23:49:49 graton systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: main pro...=1 Aug 14 23:49:49 graton systemd[1]: Unit systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service ente...e. graton# >From the fragmentary output, it looks to me like the problem is with legacy.conf but I'm not seeing why this should be problematic: d /run/lock 0755 root root - d /run/lock/subsys 0755 root root - d /run/lock/lockdev 0775 root lock - /run and /run/lock both exist I've tried rebooting; it didn't help. Now what? Thanks! -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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[arch-general] Partition mounting in systemd [WAS: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd]
by Oon-Ee Ng 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:55 AM, David Benfell > <benfell(a)parts-unknown.org> wrote: >> Does systemd not use the standard >> mount program and follow /etc/fstab? > > It does. Though it does not use "mount -a", but rather mounts each fs > separately. Ah, that ties in nicely with the weird symptoms I'm seeing right now. For background, you can read my recent forum post here - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1146498#p1146498 but its not necessary to this question Basically as part of troubleshooting the above problem, I attempted to reformat my /home partition (/dev/sda3) on my desktop to btrfs after quitting X and stopping the related stuff. I also tried this from a new boot without ever touching X. umount /dev/sda3 worked, but mkfs.btrfs didn't, giving me 'still mounted' errors. When I boot without systemd (initscripts only) then umounting and mkfs.btrfs works fine. Related - when I run systemctl -a | grep sda I get (on my systemd laptop, but got the same on my desktop), trimmed for readability dev-sda.device loaded active plugged ST9250827AS dev-sda1.device loaded active plugged ST9250827AS sys-devi...da-sda1.device loaded active plugged ST9250827AS sys-devi...da-sda2.device loaded active plugged ST9250827AS Do I need to do something additional to get systemd to 'give up' partitions totally?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd
by Felipe Contreras 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Stéphane Gaudreault > <stephane(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> (1) and (2) could be done after the missing unit files rebuild is over. They >> should probably be announced at the same time as I expect that some users >> will prefer a fresh install instead of "upgrading". >> (3) Maybe this could be done in preparation of the gnome 3.6.0 release >> scheduled at the end of September. > > That would be nice, if we are ready by then. Let's see what sorts of > problems crop up and how fast we are at adding service files. > >> (4) There is no rush to do that, but users need to know that it _will_ >> happen. > > I think the important point is that (3) will happen. I.e., that > "fancy" stuff will certainly stop working without systemd at some > point (soon). The eventual fate of initscripts we could get back to > (no promises made in either direction). Though, we should make it very > clear that people _should_ prepare for its eventual demise. By that I > mean, have a look at systemd at some point, and if it does not work > for you, report a bug so it can be fixed in good time before > initscripts is dropped. You expect too much from users. *Some* will prepare, most will not. If systemd has problems, you are certainly going to hear users complaining (and loudly). You can already see obvious problems in arch-general, when only a fraction of users are testing systemd, so chances are this going to happen when most are forced/guided to switch. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras

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[arch-general] /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime
by Paul Gideon Dann 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

Hello all, Does anyone know why both /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime are required for systemd? It looks like duplicated data. Also, "man 5 timezone" seems to flash something for a split second and close, which is also rather strange... Paul

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[arch-general] Polkit and systemd
by Manolo Martínez 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

Hello, If I'm not wrong, systemd makes consolekit superfluous. This is what I thought it took for polkit to work with systemd: * compile polkit with --enable-systemd * enable the systemd polkit service * that's it? But that's not it. Although polkit seems to work in console, it does not work in X. This is not terribly surprising, because I haven't done anything equivalent to launching my WM under "ck-launch-session", as I used to do with consolekit. Is there an equivalent way of launching the window manager under systemd-acting-as-consolekit? I should explain that I'm using no display manager, and I'd like to keep it this way, if at all possible. Cheers, Manolo --

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[arch-general] Thunar: incorrect sort order
by brainworker＠lavabit.com 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

>>> Thunar doesn't use LC_COLLATE, it has its own sorting algorithms, which >>> had some bugs with Latin characters in the past. So this is an upstream >>> issue which should be reported to the Thunar devs. >> >> I wrote about it in thunar mailing list. Nobody replied. >> > They are so lame :( Any chances with an IRC channel? For those who are still interested in situation with Thunar concerning sort order. It turned out that in Thunar's bugzilla there is already bug report opened long time ago. I just added comment there but it seems that the problem is not fixed since then. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7110 So, I filed new bug report: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9218 Maybe they pay attention to this more seriously.

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[arch-general] polkit package upgrade patch
by Ray Kohler 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

As it's been marked out-of-date for a while, and I'm interested in it, I've done the work to upgrade the polkit package to 0.107. I've tested this package locally. The main value of this upgrade (for me at least) is systemd integration, including proper systemd-style bus activation. This now wants a dedicated user and group, by default 'polkitd'. I re-used 102, which was listed as 'policykit' in the UID/GID database. Hopefully it really was unused. The build depends on this user and group already being present (otherwise 'make install' fails to chown some directories, and polkitd fails to read them and dies). It now depends on 'js', which I added. Addition of one more 8 MB dep doesn't seem a problem. As we now have pambase, the shipped pam config, which just uses system-auth, is useful to us. I removed the old, locally written, pam file. Let me know if you'd rather I put this patch in the bugtracker.

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[arch-general] old rc.sysinit?
by Jorge Almeida 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

I would like to know how Arch used to deal with some init stuff, like configuring virtual consoles, initializing random seed, etc. Is there some way to retrieve older versions of /etc/rc.sysinit? TIA Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] [System update] dhcpcd: /usr/lib/systemd/system/dhcpcd@.service exists in filesystem
by Martin Cigorraga 14 Aug '12

14 Aug '12

~# pacman -Syu ... ... (6/6) checking package integrity [---------------------------------------] 100% (6/6) loading package files [---------------------------------------] 100% (6/6) checking for file conflicts [---------------------------------------] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) dhcpcd: /usr/lib/systemd/system/dhcpcd@.service exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. ~ # I presume in this case is safe to -f, I can rename the conflicting package too, but I would like to know how's the right way to proceed here. Thanks! -- -msx

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[arch-general] Using ATTR{flags} in udev rules
by Leonid Isaev 14 Aug '12

14 Aug '12

Hi, While building an Arch-based wireless router I ran into a problem of persistent NIC naming. To differentiate which interfaces go to WAN and LAN, I have created a simple udev rule like this /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules # On-board NIC (Realtek, r8169) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ATTR{address}==mac, NAME="wan" # USB ethernet adapter (Asix) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ATTR{address}==mac, NAME="elan0" # PCI card (dlink dwa-552, ath9k) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ATTR{address}==mac, NAME="wap" These work OK until hostapd starts. It creates a bridge br0=(wap) and also a "mon.wap" interface. Both new interfaces share the same mac address as "wap" which confuses udev, as it tries to rename them as well and fails. Matching parent devices is not enough because "wap" and "mon.wap" have the same parent. However, ATTR{flags} is different for the two (at the device level). What does this attribute mean and is it a good idea to use it in a ruleset? Thanks. -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] XServer: Display errors beyond virtual x-coord 2640
by Tobias Frilling 14 Aug '12

14 Aug '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I found a strange problem today after connecting my new monitor to my computer. With the new monitor I am using a multi monitor setup of size 3200 x 1080. But it seems some applications are having troubles displaying anything beyond the apparently magical line of the (virtual) x-coord 2640. The troublemakers so far are: - - GVim which renders no text beyond the magical line. This happens mid-character. vim in a terminal behaves fine. - - Tint2 which shows no application icons in the system tray after 2640. Also happens mid-icon. The clock has no problems. The rendering of icons in xfce4-panel works strangely. - - MPlayer,MPlayer2, VLC, Skype those freeze, but only in the "danger zone"; so they play a partially frozen video - - xterm same problem as with GVim. Other terminals (rxvt, Roxterm) are fine. - - Conky Same as Gvim and xterm Most other applications are not affected by this bug. This problem seems to be independent from the window manager, as it occurs in openbox-multihead, vanilla openbox, i3, dwm and awesome. I am enabling my multihead setup via xrandr: xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --pos 1280x0 --output LVDS --auto --pos 0x280 Package infos: - - xorg-server 1.12.3.901-1 - - xorg-xrandr 1.3.5-1 - - libxrandr 1.4.0-1 - - libxinerama 1.1.2-1 - - xf86-video-ati 1:6.14.6-1 Further information: xrandr output: https://pzt.me/7o17 Xorg.0.log: https://pzt.me/9fb4 Here are some pictures. As you can see, the text gets cut mid-character, but strangely, the textdecoration is not affected. http://img.vim-cn.com/af/ea943e3e903364fc9fc0d00d7ccd09f980bc40 http://img.vim-cn.com/ed/3ec2f5a955fefccbfa29d9d7b7356ea9669348 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQKnNDAAoJENVg3RpC7ZC8fDoQALQLvuYhPgAGsxC6pxzLTNQ2 cZoRg+DoC2nFd2dimBYBCWhR/bNITZVwKvh7Wr2YQs3X0C4BcFX6VWUNcB7mj5cO RTNtXIlhwjHMg3B92bRIGbCQdSWlQeTbX+RdKBtJioVHdQR+jcUd8ShbYInbMcOK 2jSM/1P0dAULInAh/tsqPONNaDdPS7bD+tM1u0IyfvwMFUpKVGGgz8DY0i0a/3Oe xKkyG7xWdYLfc1Y2B4TTzQTUykE1MiXd6xlB+ASoJcZMBxqZpGSYrHSe0+lMo0bx emOHBI5iNQPAgG3yDbnC9uvMvKZDSrcifmFj6WoM1cEjXIlOFB63TYJgm2KDzDEl EWmQRr3FSDKmwa5P9jGnCQisIgIkCkodlGK0am683ilTp7Zc108y9joBU39IkynA U9eKBg8aCSS0bCpBeBbvGmJKPjH+VtTCpnZ0EXTXeuNzh9TkSpt17q+XyCDXDht/ 3kaXGvhsY6twR7EzGSvcf6hc524GoFd6xb0cY1uJxvFb2f+7IU5C2hmndVi3SbBR H8gwNrxCO7oayhLLe/44DjkMKPrHOSPEQOVEEN48nVYmmIUQjzn2+K8r5KVULFsM ISwFHfWMR0j8EcBN/u/gWEdMCHv3bW4q0hs7bdyUGBjY7hdchmJ53DGvkMI//HIU h9uF1N+qQCEobiwkWFvR =GfOd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?
by Oon-Ee Ng 14 Aug '12

14 Aug '12

Hi, iproute2 just got updated to 3.5.0-1 (previously was 3.4.0-2), because I use [testing]. ip addr show seems to work differently now, showing me my ipv6 assigned address by default rather than my ipv4 address (which was what I previously got when running ip addr show. The man page for ip-address says the command 'displays addresses and their properties', which means it should at least show the ipv4 address as well? I'm wondering whether this is simply an upstream change/bug, since the man page is a bit unclear and a change in behaviour is normally mentioned in man pages (isn't it?). Of course, easy to workaround using ip -4 addr show....

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[arch-general] [KDE - Can't make Akonadi server / Nepomuk service run]
by Martin Cigorraga 14 Aug '12

14 Aug '12

Ok, I know a lot of you cynics would say: "it's fine, why would do you want Nepomuk running anyways!?" The truth is my laptop HD went dead some days ago so I had to restore my system from a 2-weeks old backup; I usually use fsarchiver to backup root partition and 7z to compress ~/.kde4 so this way I'm covered up about these kind of things. So after restoring my system and home folder I did a full upgrade (nearly a gigabyte of downloads) and while most things seems to work well I found that Nepomuk isn't running, when I try to start it manually I have this error message: "Failed to start the desktop search service (Nepomuk). The settings have been saved and will be used the next time the server is started." Going back to the wiki I did my homework re-configuring Akonadi but so far I can't make Nepomuk run. This is what I have: ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc [%General] Driver=QMYSQL [QMYSQL] Name=akonadi Host=localhost ServerPath=/usr/bin/mysqld StartServer=true User=akonadiuser Password=akonadiuser Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/home/msx/.local/share/akonadi/socket-heybeavis/mysql.socket" [Debug] Tracer=null The database is already created and configured: mysql> show databases; +--------------------+ | Database | +--------------------+ | information_schema | | akonadi | mysql | owncloud | performance_schema | +--------------------+ 5 rows in set (0.00 sec) and the ~/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf is in place: ~ $ cat ~/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf # # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf # # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp <kris(a)mysql.com> # [mysqld] # strict query parsing/interpretation # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled # sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat sql_mode=strict_trans_tables # DEBUGGING: # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of data # log=mysql.full # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for debugging only) # log_slow_queries=mysql.slow # long_query_time=1 # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use # log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 # # mesure database size and adjust innodb_buffer_pool_size # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", "information_schema"); # NOTES: # Keep Innob_log_waits and keep Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show global variables) #expire_logs_days=3 #sync_bin_log=0 # Use UTF-8 encoding for tables character_set_server=utf8 collation_server=utf8_general_ci # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery default_storage_engine=innodb # memory pool InnoDB uses to store data dictionary information and other internal data structures (default:1M) innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M # memory buffer InnoDB uses to cache data and indexes of its tables (default:128M) # Larger values means less I/O innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M # Create a .ibd file for each table (default:0) innodb_file_per_table=1 # Write out the log buffer to the log file at each commit (default:1) innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 # Buffer size used to write to the log files on disk (default:1M for builtin, 8M for plugin) # larger values means less I/O innodb_log_buffer_size=1M # Size of each log file in a log group (default:5M) larger means less I/O but more time for recovery. innodb_log_file_size=64M # # error log file name, relative to datadir (default:hostname.err) log_error=mysql.err # print warnings and connection errors (default:1) log_warnings=2 # Convert table named to lowercase lower_case_table_names=1 # Maximum size of one packet or any generated/intermediate string. (default:1M) max_allowed_packet=32M # Maximum simultaneous connections allowed (default:100) max_connections=256 # The two options below make no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions # (make sense when having the same query multiple times) # Memory allocated for caching query results (default:0 (disabled)) query_cache_size=0 # Do not cache results (default:1) query_cache_type=0 # Do not use the privileges mechanisms skip_grant_tables # Do not listen for TCP/IP connections at all skip_networking # The number of open tables for all threads. (default:64) table_cache=200 # How many threads the server should cache for reuse (default:0) thread_cache_size=3 # wait 365d before dropping the DB connection (default:8h) wait_timeout=31536000 [client] default-character-set=utf8 Now, when I do restart Akonadi server I got: ~ $ akonadictl restart Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) search paths: ("/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/sbin", "/sbin", "/usr/bin/vendor_perl", "/usr/bin/core_perl", "/usr/bin/msx", "/usr/lib/colorgcc/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") ~ $ akonadi.collectionattributetable OK akonadi.collectionmimetyperelation OK akonadi.collectionpimitemrelation OK akonadi.collectiontable OK akonadi.flagtable OK akonadi.mimetypetable OK akonadi.parttable OK akonadi.pimitemflagrelation OK akonadi.pimitemtable OK akonadi.resourcetable OK akonadi.schemaversiontable OK Nepomuk Query Server not available Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) search paths: ("/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/sbin", "/sbin", "/usr/bin/vendor_perl", "/usr/bin/core_perl", "/usr/bin/msx", "/usr/lib/colorgcc/bin") KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder(13892)" Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-msx/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder(13892)" Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-msx/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder(13892)" Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-msx/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder(13892)" Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-msx/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)" search paths: ("/home/msx/.kde4/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/home/msx/.kde4/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/qt/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/msx/.kde4/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") AkonadiAgentServer(13913)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: AkonadiAgentServer(13913)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: Please correct me if I'm wrong but seems Akonadi can't/don't create the resource needed by Nepomuk, right? "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder(13892)" Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-msx/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)" Already raked the forums and the net but can't find anything of help :( Regards, Martin -- -msx

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] netcfg-2.8.9 drops initscripts compatibility
by David Hunter 12 Aug '12

12 Aug '12

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Florian Pritz <announce(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Florian Pritz wrote: > > All interfaces should now be configured in `/etc/conf.d/netcfg` rather than > `/etc/rc.conf`. > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/netcfg-289-drops-initscripts-compatibility/ The title of this article seems like it's going to cause a lot of confusion and anger. It seems to imply that if you're using initscripts, then you cannot use netcfg at all. But of course, that's not the case. This is merely the removal of a deprecated feature that was warned about in a previous news post [1]. [1] http://www.archlinux.org/news/netcfg-282-release/

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[arch-general] SSL I/O error with gmail
by Aurko Roy 12 Aug '12

12 Aug '12

Hello all, I am trying to get my gmail to work with mutt but keep getting this error: "SSL failed: I/O error". I then tried to connect to imap.gmail.com with openssl ($openssl s_client -connect imap.mail.me.com:993 and also $openssl s_client -connect imap.mail.me.com:993 -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/) both of which give the following: CONNECTED(00000003) 140098731194024:error:140790E5:SSL routines:SSL23_WRITE:ssl handshake failure:s23_lib.c:177: --- no peer certificate available --- No client certificate CA names sent --- SSL handshake has read 0 bytes and written 228 bytes --- New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE) Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported Compression: NONE Expansion: NONE --- This seems to be a peculiar problem only with gmail as I can successfully connect to icloud's imap server (imap.mail.me.com) without any problems. Does anybody have a clue what could be the problem? TIA -- Aurko Roy GPG key: 0x20C5BC31 Fingerprint:76B4 9677 15BE 731D 1949 85BA 2A31 B442 20C5 BC31

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[arch-general] Chromium usage of KDE proxy fixed
by Jayesh Badwaik 12 Aug '12

12 Aug '12

Hi, Just realized that chromium now uses the KDE proxy settings properly now. :-) Awesome work. Thanks to whoever did it. :-) :-) -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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[arch-general] Why is scribus installing gimp-light-2.6.11?
by David C. Rankin 12 Aug '12

12 Aug '12

Guys, The latest scribus update attempts to install gimp-light 2.6.11 (not 2.6.12?) as a dependency for the update. This fails on my box because I created a gimp26 package which is gimp 2.6.12. Is the 'gimp-light' being pulled in my scribus a full gimp 2.6 install? If it is, I'm happy to dump my package and just use it. Anybody know more about this new 'gimp-light' package that scribus wants? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] systemd fsck
by David Benfell 11 Aug '12

11 Aug '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I just moved my desktop to systemd, and saw a couple things as I booted it for the first time: 1) It is *fast*. Let me say that again. It is *fast*. I have never seen a system come up this fast. Critics of systemd might want to consider that. 2) But I did notice an error that worried me--just because it looks worrying--as it came up: Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[270]: /dev/sda3 is mounted. Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[270]: e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting. Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[270]: fsck failed with error code 8. Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[270]: Ignoring error. Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[289]: /dev/sdb1: clean, 398077/33554432 files, 27916145/134217728 blocks Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[287]: /dev/sdb3: clean, 647214/21102592 files, 26531961/84405504 blocks Aug 09 13:34:36 graton systemd-fsck[348]: /dev/sda4: clean, 1650719/59490304 files, 57620902/237931957 blocks Aug 09 13:34:37 graton systemd-fsck[320]: /dev/sda1: clean, 33/10040 files, 22152/40160 blocks Aug 09 13:34:37 graton systemd-fsck[293]: /dev/sdb2: clean, 4926903/67125248 files, 195736925/268500992 blocks /dev/sda3 is the root partition. - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQJdEsAAoJELT202JKF+xpR8EP/RAqqrPz2pumaHET2XLI97UC zd52iPPuc8nh75Xh8Jd5x0dPkd4xuGtRCiu8pRSLgX63o3iAOQtMcwFsBaOk0mN6 gjwJLbi0DM2VIYrlGS9VpG86w30uVhQLuuFwT4WasLJ5pKLfbKSw5lEXp56WQ597 qZmZ+L04MzkKKLAk4UENywF0hWy4fsDGgOPVg1nfhHJyFAd6aRtqxNSE4waoWAdI HjdAx5SYIDnu69O/UhqJ1GJOEiJxZaQYslQjmGYhHFDJfE1NJuDcY6XM+LeDGeyc ibKaDD96hTpL5meJAV+ZtglMJH9cRtNX69jqT5wnX141lOSXf19ybD7TRfXyMilV rBZfxfu1crDp4osbBYrMeRxYoK/Wr0HBWoknS6+RhpOheLUCMvV+xwcb4HMvrnKk 7i+LVCdNgb2Ul/vsG/MDZURgfKAgaYLtGMca2k8Ms1Q1paIkieD9fJg6sC8cbPNo yO9KfXsq8K4DnPwEJu0pJoOFr0lxPDqk2FFgBJnEjcpHVJqV4aqSTwgDcA0EzKw0 7wgAmczBbgUKxCoQehavsRRTm8QqjbM6yjCrwp44Ek4auL5taog32LnEw/GVreTh vOHNtMyOC6GzZfOJixEc5QmZx2J6iI9L9/MX0oEJiZcDh3gGRgfYUwFEdF+R+CfC h1s40baqzeVk/l/INX+V =ijAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] KDE and plasma-desktop CPU usage
by Shridhar Daithankar 11 Aug '12

11 Aug '12

Hello, I recently formatted an acer netbook with intel atom processor, 32 bit, 1.66GHz/1GB RAM, with arch. I installed kde on it, everything went as expected. However when I log in with a normal user, the KDE start-up completes but the splash screen is stuck. plasma-desktop process is eating 100% CPU. Killing and restarting the process does not help. I think the machine is dual core, /proc/cpuinfo shows two cores but might be hyper-threaded, am not sure. I can hit Alt-F2, get a krunner prompt and run applications like konsole but the desktop remain unavailable. I had just started dbus from rc.conf and created a user as follows # useradd -m -g users -G audio,video shridhar And log-in from kdm. Google is not much of help. Any suggestions before I report the bug upstream? -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] When will LibreOffice 3.6 proposed ?
by fredbezies 11 Aug '12

11 Aug '12

Hello. I know, archlinux is really quick to package software, so I was wondering when LibreOffice 3.6 will be proposed, at least on testing ? I grabbed PKGBUILD from abs, and tweaked .36 version to build both translations (done first) and then core package (currently working on LibO Writer after something like 4 hours on my AMD Athlon X2-215, which is now something like 2 years old). Thanks for any infos. Have a good week-end. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Brasero cannot create mp3 based cds ?
by fredbezies 11 Aug '12

11 Aug '12

Hello. I faced a weird bug with Brasero. Yesterday, I wanted to convert and burn mp3 to a CD. I got an error box saying : "Name of mp3 file" could not be opened "Name of mp3 file" is not suitable for audio or video media I had to use k3b. By the way, only mp3 are not usable. Flac files are ok. Any ideas ? Thanks. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] root $PATH via "su - -c mc" ??
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

OK so I guess /root/.bash_profile wouldn't be read by a script generated login shell that feeds "su - -c mc" to the -e option of a "konsole" command, since it's not considered an "interactive" login... Which explains why the conditional PATH command I routinely put in my .bash_profile scripts (not in .bashrc to prevent it being appended multiple times): if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then PATH="${PATH}":~/bin fi doesn't add "/root/bin" to the default path of the resulting "root" mc session in the resulting konsole window, like it does with a console root login... IE: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin/core_perl:/root/bin But since even a generic user's default system PATH variable includes the "sbin" directories... IE: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin/core_perl Why would the root mc shell resulting from the scripted "su - -c mc" wind up with a PATH variable containing only: /usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:/etc ??? I know I can fix this by defining root's path in root's .bashrc, but I'd have to give up on conditionally adding ~/bin in .bash_profile as every subshell would overwrite it with the .bashrc assignment... Suggestions anyone??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot
by Myra Nelson 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner <d(a)falconindy.com> wrote: > On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae" <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> >> On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> > Am 08.08.2012 21:25, schrieb Evangelos Foutras: >> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Tobias Powalowski >> >> <tobias.powalowski(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> It was just a rebuild, with an added optdepend :/ >> >>> Sorry folks, didn't want to break something. >> >>> I don't have the time now to look at it. >> >> Seems like a patch was added: avoid-using-ext2_fs.patch. >> >> >> >> I took the liberty to remove the package from [testing] until we >> >> figure out what's broken. >> > The patch is from fedora, to be able to build syslinux. >> > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/syslinux.git/tree/ >> > >> >> It is needed as the ext2 fs stuff has been removed from the kernel > headers. >> >> Allan >> > > Incidentally it also causes ext2 /boot to be unbootable. Incidentally it also causes ext2 /boot to be unbootable, without a doubt it does. Dave's install scripts work great easiest install I've ever done, however it won't boot off of ext2 with syslinux. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Justin's package signing key expired
by Florian Pritz 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Just a heads up: Justin Davis' key expired today so pacman won't be able to verify/install some perl packages[1] until they have been resigned or rebuilt. [1]: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?packager=juster -- Florian Pritz

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[arch-general] Install scripts and Syslinux
by Myra Nelson 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

I would like to thank all those who are working so diligently to make Arch Linux more usable. There are just too many to list in one spot. Dave's install scripts are great. This was the easiest install I've ever done save plugging in an MSDOS disk. To all those trying to come up with a graphical installer, I've never cared for them starting with anaconda and FreeBSD' sys install. Doing the install with these scripts removes all doubt about what's been done. Yes the AIF put most of it in your face and was a very laudable project, but these scripts take out all the doubt and forces you to think about how and what you are doing. They also make it possible to plug another hard disk into a running machine, do the install, then reboot to the new disk without using any external drives. That's the part I really love. Thanks for the tips about ext4 on the boot partition. I do have one question relating to the genfstab script. All the other scripts work with sudo but genfstab doesn't. I get an error message "permission denied" I have to su to root then run it. Myfra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] offlineimap configuration encrypted pwd
by Arno Gaboury 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Dear all, I just finised creating GnuPG key and setting gpg-agent following the wiki. I am a litle bit confused now about a few things and how to use my encripted password. First, is there any need to add in my .Xressources this line: eval $(gpg-agent --daemon) I don't think so, but have a doubt. Now about the encrypted pwd. As described in Mutt wiki, I have now a file ~/.my-pwds.gpg. The wiki descibes how to use with Mutt. My problem is I use offlineimap, so it is in ~/.offlineimaprc I shall indicate the encrypted pwd. Is this following line enough ? remotepass = ~/.my-pwds.gpg OR shall I add to this following line ? source "gpg2 -dq ~/.my-pwds.gpg |" I use msmtp to send, so my problem with ~/.msmtprc is same:how to use the encrypted pwd? I didn't find any clear answer on Google, so thank you for any help in these settings. Regards.

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[arch-general] Something wrong with firefox/thunderbird driving X cpu usage -> 100%
by David C. Rankin 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Guys, I have watched this in top for the past week or so. Thunderbird and Firefox are causing X cpu usage to shoot upt to between 80-100% on simple tasks like scrolling a message list in tbird or simply opening css menus in firefox. All of this used to be instantaneous and never cause the cpu to bat an eye. But now, it is very pronounced and brings the desktop to a crawl. This box is not a screamer, but plenty fast, P4 2800/4G/Nvidia 8600GT. How do I determine what is causing this? X? ff/tb? something else? Any ideas appreciated. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.4.8-1
by Tobias Powalowski 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Hi guys, please signoff 3.4.8 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.5.1 is in [testing]. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Installation_Guide - fix concerning bootloader config reference
by David C. Rankin 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Guys, One place the Installation_Guide could be improved is regarding the bootloader install and config. Currently the "Configure system" section has a circular-reference back to "Install a bootloader" section. It reads: ------------------------------------------------- Install a bootloader GRUB For BIOS: # pacstrap /mnt grub-bios <snip> Configure system ... Configure the bootloader: refer back to the appropriate article from the bootloader installation section. ------------------------------------------------- Above, the reference back 'to the appropriate article from the bootloader installation section' sends the reader back to an area with NO additional information. It would be far better to simply refer the reader to: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Configure_the_bootl… or just include the bootloader config steps from Beginners_Guide. Bolding "Configure the bootloader:" would also help. That will emphasize the fact that grub2 is not configured at this point and the user needs to complete grub-install and grub-mkconfig before rebooting. Especially for user seeing grub2 for the first time with an install from the new 2012 media. That's just a suggestion for readability. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] No signal on external monitor with 3.5 Kernel
by Sudaraka Wijesinghe 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Hi Everyone, I have an external monitor connected to my laptop via HDMI which I use side by side to get an extended desktop. When I boot the system with 3.5 Kernel I don't get any signal on the external monitor, laptop display and everything else work fine. It works fine with 3.4.x Kernels, and I believe it's not a X problem as it's not getting any signal even before X starts (It does with 3.4.x). I was wondering if anyone else has this issue and possibly a solution, or is this something I need to submit upstream? Thanks. -- Sudaraka Wijesinghe

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[arch-general] gnome-screenshot tool partly broken with last xorg-server in testing ?
by fredbezies 10 Aug '12

10 Aug '12

Hello. Before shouting on me, I know, testing can be broken sometimes. But as I'm facing this bug, I have reported it : https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31087 To sum up : I cannot get a window to be correctly captured. Fullscreen is ok, window => corrupted file, and these kind of log. ** (gnome-screenshot:27677): WARNING **: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11. Error: Le fichier image « /home/fred/.cache/gnome-screenshot/scr--1328043383.png » ne contient pas de données (gnome-screenshot:27677): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_surface: assertion `width > 0 && height > 0' failed (gnome-screenshot:27677): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_resize: assertion `width > 0' failed ** (gnome-screenshot:27677): CRITICAL **: Unable to capture a screenshot of any window What do you think of that ? -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible
by Not To Miss 09 Aug '12

09 Aug '12

Dear Arch users, I have latest Arch installed on my desktop at work. In recent two weeks, the system randomly "suspends" at night (I call it "randomly" because it didn't happen every night. And it seems to happen after a random period idle time) when I am off. I can't wake it up in the next morning thru mouse or keyboard. I tried to disable suspension and hibernation by editing /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy to change from <allow_active>yes</allow_active> to <allow_active>no</allow_active> But it doesn't work. While I call it "suspend", I am not sure it suspend to RAM or hibernate to disk, because I find the CPU fan and power fan still spin normally. RAM light is also on. So it might be a video driver / setting related issue. For your information, I am using nvidia-302.17-2-x86_64 and have dual monitor set up with nvidia-utils-302.17-1-x86_64 This really bothers me a lot. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! -- Best, Zech

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[arch-general] Screen Scaling Issues
by Alfredo Palhares 08 Aug '12

08 Aug '12

Hello, i am having some problems setting up Xorg correctly. I have a ATI Radeon 7750 codename "Cape Verde" VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7700 Series] I have a problem when i start X, on 1920x1080 the screen is not fully used, i get some black border all around the screen. To "fix" this i have to open amdcccle and in the DTV(1) section -> Adjustments and on Scalling Options i have to move the bar from 0 to zero again. This does solve the problem, but it does not persist between reboots (does not change Xorg.conf at all even as root). Is it possible to set this as an option on the xord.conf ? I probably does, but I failed to find the name of that option. As attachemnt goes my catalyst config file Any sugestions are welcomne. -- Regards Alfredo Palhares

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[arch-general] offlineimap + gmail : don't sync anymore
by arnaud gaboury 08 Aug '12

08 Aug '12

Hello all, I have a Mutt+msmtp+offlineimap set up. This has been working very well for the past weeks. offlineimap is croned each 3 minutes. Since one hour, Mutt is no more receiving incoming emails. I only see them on the gmail website or on my mobile device. When I run $offlineimap it returns this error: ERROR: Exceptions occurred during the run! ERROR: While attempting to sync account 'Gmail' [ALERT] Account exceeded command or bandwidth limits. (Failure) After some readings, it seems this is a common issue, but I couldn't find any clear answer how to deal with it. Then, I have no idea why suddenly one hour ago offlineimap stop syncing as I didn't received neither sent any attached files! Please help if someone knows how to deal. Regards.

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[arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?
by Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez 08 Aug '12

08 Aug '12

I trust Arch devs, they always have good reasons behind their decisions. So, I'm just curious for the election of Zsh[1] in the new install media. [1] http://www.archlinux.org/news/install-media-20120804-available/ Regards -- Ricardo (http://r.untroubled.be/)

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[arch-general] How to print to parallel printer with cups support removed?
by David C. Rankin 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Guys, How do we print to parallel printers now with cups 1.6.x? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] K3b upgarde is missing libkcddb
by Ralf Mardorf 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Hi, I didn't find any information about this issue: warning: cannot resolve "libkcddb", a dependency of "k3b" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: k3b Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: k3b: requires libkcddb [root@archlinux virtualbox-hook]# pacman -S libkcddb error: target not found: libkcddb [root@archlinux virtualbox-hook]# pacman -Qi k3b Name : k3b Version : 2.0.2-5 [root@archlinux virtualbox-hook]# pacman -Qi libkcddb error: package 'libkcddb' was not found [root@archlinux virtualbox-hook]# pacman -Si libkcddb error: package 'libkcddb' was not found Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] pacman from behind a proxy (not under my control)
by Oon-Ee Ng 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

So I just tried a new install, it works and even got updated the first time. Left it over the weekend, now that I'm back on it (still quite bare, nothing much set up yet) I can't seem to get pacman connected to the mirrors. This machine is a university machine and needs to connect via proxy.name_of_uni.edu.my:8080, so I've set http_proxy and ftp_proxy to the right values. Also substituted in the actual IP addresses with the same results. What happens is that all the mirrors get the following (with wget uncommented in pacman.conf, similar results even when not using wget) Connecting to mirrors.kernel.org|149.20.4.71|:80... failed: Connection timed out. Ironically, when I try to wget the db file itself through wget http://mirrrors.kernel.org/archlinux/testing/os/i686/testing.db it downloads fine.... Any idea what the problem could be?

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[arch-general] Trouble with "system" bell
by Scott Lawrence 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

I'm on a macbook, so there's no true system bell - I've installed xbelld to replace it. Unfortunately, I still get no bell in terminal (rxvt or xterm or st, using "echo -e \\a" or ^G or ^H^H^H), although running 'xkbbell' does give me the bell. Searching online, I find this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=883917#p883917 which seems similar (I tried chromium, and I do indeed get a bell there), but the solution of "just use the system bell" won't work for me. The visualBell effect works, but that's not what I'm looking for. Any tips on what's keeping the bell from being played from terminal? I've tried "xset b" stuff, and I'm out of ideas. -- Scott Lawrence Linux jagadai 3.4.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 22:02:56 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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[arch-general] WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search
by rabidblogger＠Safe-mail.net 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

$ lsof | grep anon_inode anon_inode $ lsof | grep dev/null /dev/null I find several anon_inodes and over a dozen /dev/null listings, in some listings for each there are several processes which are repeated. I'm expecting this to be a rootkit, but none of the rootkit scanners find anything. Why are these two listings appearing for various processes? I'm not running any virtual machines, emulation, shares, printers, servers, etc. but these listings continue to appear, it doesn't matter what Linux distro I use, these continue to show, even when disconnected from the internet. What are they? Why are they appearing? How can I stop these from running? (if they're bad) I've searched the web and cannot find anything which explains these to my satisfaction.

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[arch-general] New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??
by David C. Rankin 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Guys, What happened to the arch setup autoinstaller script that guided you though the install process?? It was minimal, and worked very well to guide you through. Even helpful with raid installs after your arrays were assembled and partitioned. Now, unless I'm completely missing something, we a back to a total manual install with archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall. I've looked at the basic setup wiki and the install guide wiki and I don't see the friendly install tool referenced anywhere. So am I missing it, or are we just back to a manual install? (guessing where packages are /usr/bin, /usr/sbin or /sbin. On archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall, /usr/sbin is not in the default path, so typing dhcpcd as instructed in the wiki -- does nothing... I really liked the old arch installer. It was a fairly brain-dead install that nicely walked you though the install process with minimal keystrokes and choices required. Is that installer on the archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall image? If so where? (This is an arch client vbox install if that makes any difference...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Is there any project or interest for an new installer?
by David C. Rankin 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Guys, As I sit cobbling together script snippets to help automate the new media install for my use, I am curious if there is any current effort/project to develop a new AIF type installer? Or, is there any plan to take the current old AIF and update it going forward. If not, is there any suggestion/desire to set up a development page/wiki to capture thoughts/ideas/notes concerning what Arch users are currently doing to help automate the install. That way at least there is a central place for the information to be coordinated that would foster a bit of development in that direction regardless of whether it ever becomes an official project. For example, to make grub2 config a little easier I cobbled together a couple of lines from the Install_Guide, Beginners_Guide and Grub2 wiki to come up with a short snippet for my use: # Install a bootloader (grub2) - PART2 instdev="$1" modprobe dm-mod grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck --debug "$instdev" mkdir -p /boot/grub/locale cp /usr/share/locale/en\(a)quot/LC_MESSAGES/grub.mo /boot/grub/locale/en.mo sed -i 's/GRUB_GFXMODE=.*$/GRUB_GFXMODE=1024X768X32/' /etc/default/grub grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg Nothing special about any of this, but if there was an interest in capturing this type of information and other information related to the install for later use (or just to prevent reinventing the wheel), then some central page makes sense. Also, if there was any interest in a future AIF continuation, I'd be happy to help where I could. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] kernel: NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus. ??
by David C. Rankin 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Guys, On my i686 box with nvida 8600GT, nvidia driver, I have experienced 2 desktop lockups in the past couple of days. When this occurs, the desktop is locked hard, but the mouse still moves. Nothing else is responsive. This has occurred when the desktop is in active use and when the display is in poweroff mode from dpms. Checking error messages I find: Aug 6 15:21:45 providence kernel: [ 2250.691231] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus. Aug 2 03:11:11 providence kernel: [45209.590664] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus. Aug 2 14:50:48 providence kernel: [ 2128.598972] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus. I have followed http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-rhel-fedora-linux-nvidia-nvrm-gp… to set Persistence Mode, but I'm don't know if that will fix it. As in an earlier thread, I still experience high X usage and slow desktop response, especially with GTK apps. I hoped that updating the new nvidia driver today would do the trick, but the last fall off occurred after the update. The article says to update kernel and nvidia driver, but those of those are the latest packages from Arch. Is this a bug? If so, kernel or nvidia? Is it OK just to set Persistence Mode permanently on boot each time? Where is the best place? /etc/rc.local? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Pacman/pactree
by Arno Gaboury 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Dear list, I did some spring home cleaning today among my installed packages. I wanted to remove one package, but be sure first to know which packages were depending on the one I wanted to remove. I then went to the pacman wiki, and read the following command would do the job : $whoneeds packagename. A quick tour on #archlinux IRC gave me this anser for same result: $pactree -r packagename. Is there any reason to use "whoneeds" command more than "pactree -r" ? As pactree is already installed, I do not see the need to install a new package for same result. Not a big deal, but just curiousity.

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[arch-general] Softlink /media
by Ralf Mardorf 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Am I the only one mounting e.g. an USB stick by the desktop and then using a terminal emulation? Is /media still needed by anything? If not I would prefer a softlink media -> /run/media. Hm? There's no big difference between typing # ls /run/media/spinymouse/INTENSO and # ls /media/spinymouse/INTENSO I wonder if it's possible to use $HOME for the softlink? IMO an USB stick etc. should be auto-mounted at /media, I prefer to type /media/INTENSO only. For now I added the softlink media -> /run/media. Regards, Ralf Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Skype locks up my system, not even sysrq keys work
by SanskritFritz 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

When I do a videochat in skype, the whole system freezes after a while. This while can be a couple to 10+ minutes. The system locks up usually when I start or close some other apps in the background. When it happens the screen doesnt change anymore, and the sound stutters the last half second over and over again. Nothing helps, not even the magic sysrq keys (REISUB), which otherwise do work (tested it). I suspect this could be a result of a new videocard in the system (the problem started around that time, when I swapped the old GeForce 7300 GS to a new 8600 GT), but everything else works flawlessly, 3D games, movies, compiz, everything, except skype. Is it possible that a hardware problem causes a problem of this magnitude only with skype? I couldn't find anything in the logfiles after reboot. There is no overheating of the nvidia card or cpu, I constantly check it with conky. Later I'm going to switch back to the old videocard, and test, to see if it is hardware related. Please help me to find the problem if software related. Cheers SanskritFritz

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[arch-general] Install wiki - recommendations regarding 'swap' ?
by David C. Rankin 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

All, After installing without AIF, I want to update the install wiki to drop a note about swap. It isn't addressed at all. What is the current Arch recommendation regarding swap creation? I.E.: recommended for systems w/less that 1G of RAM, create swap file of what size? (256M?) Even if swap is not recommended, I at least want to drop that note in the basic install. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] btrfs-progs
by Tom Gundersen 05 Aug '12

05 Aug '12

Hi guys, Seems not many of us yet use btrfs, I therefore would like to ask if any users can signoff on the btrfs-progs in testing (i.e. verify that the package appears to work). In particular, I'm interested to hear if someone who uses btrfs-progs and initscripts from testing could verify that the multi-device support still works? If you have the btrfs hook in your initramfs, then please enable udev too and regenerate the image to verify that that also still works. For those who are interested: the change we made was to scan btrfs devices for multi-device support using udev rules as the devices appear rather than doing it unconditionally after "all the devices should be ready". This approach should hopefully be more reliable than the old one. Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] Makepkg's versioning for git packages
by Menachem Moystoviz 04 Aug '12

04 Aug '12

I am a bit confused regarding makepkg's versioning of packages. >From what Allan said on this mailing list a couple of days ago, custom support is being added to makepkg. In addition, from what I can see on the wiki and manpages, the only variable influencing the versioning is pkgver. However, from what I've heard, when running makepkg with _gitroot and _gitname set, makepkg will automatically set pkgver to the date of the last commit. Could someone clarify this? Also, the wiki pages regarding makepkg should mention this. Thanks, M

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[arch-general] [archboot] looking for 2012.08 beta testers
by Tobias Powalowski 04 Aug '12

04 Aug '12

Hi, please drop me an answer if you are interest in testing the next archboot release. Thanks greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] chromium crash when print dialog is invoked
by Scott Weisman 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

I started experiencing a severe problem with Chromium recently that makes web browsing a very tedious experience. It took a while to narrow it down, but it seems that whenever the print dialog is invoked, either manually (eg ctrl-P on the keyboard) or by a page when clicking on the "printer friendly format" link, the entire browser crashes. This happens on two separate Arch installs. I personally would love a method to disable the printer dialog from ever popping up anyway, since I don't even have one (so if someone can suggest a method, I'd love to hear it), but this bug is a serious problem, as the crash is unrecoverable. And if my session ends up with a page that invokes the dialog on its own, I have to clear out the entire session. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Can anyone suggest a solution?

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[arch-general] Build pacman statically
by Jack Silver 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

To exchange information I want to let know this list that I have filled a feature request form to ask for a statically builded pacman. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30993 Comments welcome in the bug manager. جاك الفضة

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[arch-general] gtk apps causing X cpu usage 85-100%
by David C. Rankin 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Guys, Here is a new issue on the latest Arch with nvidia and any gtk app like Firefox or Thunderbird. When using Firefox or Thunderbird, X cpu usage skyrockets to 85+%, the Tbird cpu will be 20+%. Here is a top screenshot showing usage: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/arch/bugs/tbird-cpu.jpg Merely scrolling the new messages window or a web page causes X cpu usage to jump from a resting usage of 1-5% to over 30%. This is viewing all messages as plain text only. When tbird checks imap servers or sends messages both X and tbird CPU use goes way way up. Anybody else seeing something similar? gtk 1.2.10-11 gtk2 2.24.11-2 gtk3 3.4.4-1 linux 3.4.7-1 nvidia 302.17-4 firefox 14.0.1-1 thunderbird 14.0-1 xorg-server 1.12.3-1 xorg-server-common 1.12.3-1 It's like there is some very bad race condition created in X when using gtk apps with the nvidia driver? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Texlive package install
by Arno Gaboury 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Dear list, I use Texlive + Texmaker to write some documents. I can't find an easy and solid way to install new packages from CTAN.Package tlmgr from AUR couldn't compil on my box and will not do the job.Installing manually new packages doesn't seem to be a good idea and is not very straightforward. Thank you for any advice.

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[arch-general] upower.service stop working
by Zhengyu Xu 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Dear all, Today I suddenly found the battery-icon disappeared from my gnome-shell panel. When I checked the status of systemctl there is a failed item corresponding to upower.service. Followings are the output of "systemctl status upower.service": power.service - Daemon for power management Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/upower.service; disabled) Active: failed (Result: signal) since Fri, 03 Aug 2012 00:48:40 +0900; 2min 57s ago Process: 4270 ExecStart=/usr/lib/upower/upowerd (code=killed, signal=SEGV) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/upower.service and relevant output from "journalctl": Aug 02 23:39:37 xzy3186-E420 systemd[1]: upower.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=11 Aug 02 23:39:37 xzy3186-E420 systemd[1]: Unit upower.service entered failed state. I don't know how to get more debug information to this problem. Is there anybody else who also has similar experience? I will appreciate very much if someone could give me any suggestion. Best regards, Zhengyu PS: My environment is upower-0.9.17-2 systemd-187-4

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[arch-general] pacman's default download manager?
by Oon-Ee Ng 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

On my personal machine I've long-since changed XferCommand, but on doing a new install on another machine with the latest iso (behind a proxy, which is a first for me), I figured out that a problem I was having was linked to pacman NOT using wget by default. Is it just me, or wasn't wget the default before? Just to be clear, I was getting proxy related errors even after changing /etc/wgetrc (as instructed in the beginner's guide). Does pacman use curl by default now (or something else)? Once I get confirmation, the Beginner's Guide section on proxies needs a bit of changing =).

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[arch-general] [arch-projects] [initscripts] [GIT] Arch Linux initscripts repository branch master updated. 2012.07.5-3-gf670511
by Myra Nelson 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

Tom: >From your latest update to the initscripts in the git repo. This makes sure that systemd supports some initscripts API's. With this patch, systemd will: * Parse and use DAEMONS and MODULES from rc.conf * Run rc.local and rc.local.shutdown on boot and shutdown respectively I have everything working but my network with I load manually. I'm using journalctl etc instead of syslog Since systemd parses the rc.conf file now the only thing I should need in the daemons line is [ network ]. Is that correct? I tried to shoot the message below to you on the arch-projects list, but don't have access on that list to send you mail, so here it is. Tom: Good job. The one suggestion I have comes from my bent for making sure people don't miss things. I would estimate 90 to 95 percent of Arch users wouldn't miss and most others won't unless they are in a hurry (me). Would you consider it over the top to change the following line The local timezone is configured by symlinking /etc/localtime to the correct zoneinfo file under to The local timezone is configured by *symlinking* /etc/localtime to the correct zoneinfo file under making symlinking show up in bold text. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Bizarre Clock Reset 8/1 -> 9/1 after apcupsd shutdown??
by David C. Rankin 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

Guys, This is one for you to puzzle over. I've never seen it before. I had an apcupsd commanded shutdown at Aug 1 13:20:15 (not uncommon - power is terrible). However, when I restarted the hwclock had magically jumped ahead by 1 full month to Sept. 1. (the box was down for 56 minutes until I returned from lunch) Then on restart, I was dropped into the maintenance shell and required to run fsck manually due to the future date. There was a message that stated something line "run fsck manually on /dev/sdc5 ... the system will reboot automatically after fsck completes" (this looked like an abbreviated maintenance shell -- I guess due to the fact that the root fs was the one that was being checked /dev/sdc5. fsck completed (e2fsck), but the box didn't reboot. So I typed 'reboot' -- nothing happened. Checked /usr/bin and reboot was present. So then I finally did ctrl+alt+del and the box restarted. I was then dumped into the normal maintenance shell to fsck /home on /dev/sdc7. It completed and reboot worked normally. My questions are (1) does anybody have any idea how this can happen? (2) Anybody else every seen this? and (3) could the kernel apcupsd segfault (shown below) be the cause? Any ideas welcome. Strange stuff... The relevant everything.log snippet and bios info is below: Aug 1 13:20:15 providence apcupsd[3477]: apcupsd shutdown succeeded Aug 1 13:20:15 providence kernel: [171092.364247] apcupsd[3477]: segfault at 0 ip 0805c706 sp bfcdfff0 error 4 in apcupsd[8048000+38000] Aug 1 13:20:15 providence ntpd[3454]: Listen normally on 6 eth0 192.168.7.124 UDP 123 Aug 1 13:20:15 providence ntpd[3454]: peers refreshed Aug 1 13:20:15 providence ntpd[3454]: new interface(s) found: waking up resolver Aug 1 13:20:15 providence postfix/postfix-script[13735]: stopping the Postfix mail system Aug 1 13:20:15 providence postfix/master[3868]: terminating on signal 15 Aug 1 13:20:15 providence postfix/postfix-script[13738]: waiting for the Postfix mail system to terminate Aug 1 13:20:16 providence dhcpcd[424]: eth0: sending IPv6 Router Solicitation Aug 1 13:20:19 providence ntpd[3454]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Aug 1 13:20:19 providence dhcpcd[13884]: sending signal 1 to pid 424 Aug 1 13:20:19 providence dhcpcd[424]: received SIGHUP, releasing Aug 1 13:20:19 providence dhcpcd[424]: eth0: releasing lease of 192.168.7.124 Aug 1 13:20:19 providence dhcpcd[13884]: waiting for pid 424 to exit Aug 1 13:20:19 providence dhcpcd[424]: eth0: removing interface Aug 1 13:20:19 providence kernel: [171096.790000] pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI Aug 1 13:20:19 providence syslog-ng[352]: syslog-ng shutting down; version='3.3.5' Sep 1 14:16:20 providence kernel: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Sep 1 14:16:20 providence kernel: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu Sep 1 14:16:20 providence kernel: [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.4.7-1-ARCH (tobias@T-POWA-LX) (gcc version 4.7.1 20120721 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 20:05:01 UTC 2012 BIOS Information Vendor: Dell Inc. Version: A04 Release Date: 02/09/2005 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Something wrong with cmake
by Xin Zhao 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

Dear all, I tried to install vtk in aur. But this gave me the following error: -- Could NOT find JNI (missing: JAVA_AWT_LIBRARY JAVA_JVM_LIBRARY JAVA_INCLUDE_PATH JAVA_INCLUDE_PATH2 JAVA_AWT_INCLUDE_PATH) But I tried to wrote a CMakeLists.txt include find_package(JNI). This gave me -- JNI found. which seems to work fine. Best, Xin

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] KDE kdebase-runtime 4.9 dependency changes
by Matthew Monaco 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

On 08/02/2012 08:27 AM, Dan McGee wrote: > Noticed this when upgrading yesterday. Suddenly got a lot more junk > installed on my system because of the new dep of kdebase-runtime on > kdepimlibs. > > Is this dependency really necessary? Can it not be optional with the > KDE programs that actually require it pull it in explicitly? I'd > prefer to not have MySQL on my system, in addition to the numerous > other programs that got pulled. Anything from my log that is listed as > "installed" was obviously not there before: > All I want is k3b, but I just went ahead and removed it when I saw all this new stuff.

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[arch-general] Mutt client-Message from Gateway
by Arno Gaboury 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

Dear list, as some of you strongly advise me, I finally set up Mutt as my mail client. I set up with a gmail account, offlineimap and msmtp. Even if I don't maximise the beast, everything works fine. I still have one issue when sending or replying to this list. After my sent, I recieved immediatly a mail FROM: Gateway SUBJECT: NDN BODY : Your message couldn't be delivered to: kingeryj,Firstclass(The name was not found on the remote site). Any idea what could be wrong in my configuration? Or maybe just an invalid adress in the list? Thank You for help. Regards

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[arch-general] locale.conf
by Arno Gaboury 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

Dear list, even after reading all wiki and man, I am still confused about how to write locale.conf after recent upgrades. Here are the 6 locales enabled in locale.gen: fr_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_CH ISO-8859-1 fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 en_US ISO-8859-1 My Arch is in english, and I live in Switzerland and read documents in english, french and "swiss" french. Still, I am not sure if I need to enable all these locales. I have NO IDEA how to write correctly all these locales in locale.conf. Thank you for your help. Regards.

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[arch-general] linux-3.5.0-1 enters [testing]
by Tobias Powalowski 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

Hi guys, Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Please report any issues that arise. Thanks. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Arch kernel
by Jorge Almeida 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

I'm trying to find out what is the Arch mainline kernel. In https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation#Compilation it is said that it is the vanilla kernel plus 3 patches. Which patches? The link is broken. (And is this the proper place to report it?) TIA Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] Quick btrfs-root question
by Jameson 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

I apologize if I've missed it somewhere, but does grub support booting from a multi-device btrfs root sub-volume without a separate /boot? According to the wiki I think it's supposed to work, but when I chroot to that root, and run grub-install, it returns: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting. I left the chroot, and installed grub to that disk from my old root, but it won't boot from my new volume. Does anyone have some advice, or should I just move to a separate /boot? Thanks, =-Jameson

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[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.4.7-1
by Tobias Powalowski 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

Hi guys, please signoff 3.4.7 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.5 is in [testing]. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] migrating crypttab to new way / luks swap problem
by Genes MailLists 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

I am fully up to date on testing repo. I have a laptop with encrypted /home and swap. Both are luks. When I convert /etc/cryptab /home works fine but swap fails at boot time with Unlocking of swap failed. Legacy /etc/cryptab (works but get legacy warnings) home /dev/sda5 ASK swap /dev/sda7 ASK New /etc/cryttab (swap fails) home /dev/sda5 none luks,timeout=0 swap /dev/sda7 none swap,luks Can anyone suggest how I can fix my swap line? thanks! gene

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[arch-general] BTRFS USB key fails to boot
by Kyle 01 Aug '12

01 Aug '12

Trying to install Arch on a USB key, I am having trouble getting a bootable system. I created a basic BTRFS filesystem and mounted it with SSD optimizations and compression. I didn't create any subvolumes or anything else that is said to be problematic when booting to a BTRFS filesystem. From that point, I followed the installation guide for a normal install. However, after reading the documentation for GRUB and Syslinux, my newly created install doesn't boot. I looked at the wiki entry for installing to a USB key, but it is still written for AIF and grub-legacy. However, the main difference I can find doesn't seem to apply, because although it mentions that the USB key where grub-legacy is installed is always hd0,0, grub2 is supposed to look for the UUID of the disk, which matches correctly in /boot/grub/grub.cfg. I also tried setting up this install to boot using Syslinux, but both bootloaders just drop me into some kind of shell and refuse to boot. Unfortunately, since I am visually impaired and use speech to install and use Arch, I am unable to see whether I am in a "normal shell" or a rescue shell, or even what kind of issue the bootloaders are having that keeps them from finding a kernel. Should I be using a different filesystem other than BTRFS, even though both bootloaders are said to support it? Should I not be using compression on my filesystem? Could this be a problem that is entirely unrelated to the filesystem I'm using? Any help is greatly appreciated. ~Kyle -- Kyle is a droid. The whole world knows it. This e-mail shows it.

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[arch-general] 11 minutes mode
by Jorge Almeida 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Anybody knows how to make sure that the kernel will not mess with the hardware clock every 11 minutes? The proper way would be to use a kernel that doesn't try to do it, but I want to use Arch's standard kernel, which has CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y. Maybe something in /proc? I don't know whether the kernel in my system is even doing it; I don't use ntp, but the documentation doesn't say what triggers the 11m mode, it just gives examples... TIA Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery
by mike cloaked 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Now that cups 1.6 is in core - I have been struggling to get my laptop to "see" a shared printer attached by usb to another machine on the same network - previously if port 631 was open on all machines in the network then cups seemed to make the printer visible on all local machines. I have been reading that avahi-daemon needs to be running for printer discovery to work with the new version of cups but I have not been able to get my laptop to see the cups shared printer on a desktop elsewhere in the same network - does anyone have a link to the key steps in the config to get this working? I did read that under the new system avahi needs to be running on both server and client - but in my case the "server" machine is linux but not arch and still running cups version <1.6 and is not currently running avahi.... Any advice gratefully received. Thanks -- mike c

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[arch-general] tty0 not available anymore with systemd
by Karol Babioch 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Hi, I can't remember to have changed anything critical in the last couple of days/weeks on this system, therefore I suppose it has something to do with some updates. Since a couple of days I no more got an console on tty0 with systemd. tty1 - tty6 work fine, but tty0 just displays the dialog to enter my password to unlock my encrypted root partition and the results of the fsck systemd is performing during the bootup. My best guess would be that it somehow gets stuck in the initrd, but I'm not sure. Is this anything you already experienced? Have I missed something? As said it worked fine in the past and I can't remember to have changed any configuration or something like that. Best regards, Karol Babioch

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[arch-general] AUR xaralx no libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
by Ralf Mardorf 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10896 $ xaralx xaralx: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] pkgbuild depends() can you have both >= <=?
by David C. Rankin 31 Jul '12

31 Jul '12

Guys, Is it possible to have both a 'greater than' and 'less than' dependency on any single package listed as a depends in a PKGBUILD? I want to specify gegl >=0.1.8 and <=0.2 for gimp26. Possible? Man page says: <quote> Entries can also include a version requirement of the form name<>version, where <> is one of five comparisons: >= (greater than or equal to), <= (less than or equal to), = (equal to), > (greater than), or < (less than). </quote> Where the operative phrase is: 'is one of five...' ^^^ Can you list a depends twice? (i.e.: gegl>=0.1.8 gegl<=0.2) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] X server crash
by Genes MailLists 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

The last couple of weeks I have started to get random crashes of the X server - it dies with SEGV. It occurs every few days or so and has no obvious trigger. I think it started about the same time as the update to 3.5 kernel (tho may be unrelated). Bug filed here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30921 When it happens the X session ends and I am back at kdm prompt. gene

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[arch-general] usbmuxd with systemd
by Zhengyu Xu 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

Hello to All, I have a question relating to the new usbmuxd in the testing repo. Actually I have been bothered for months by the fact that udev failed to start usbmuxd automatically after plugging my iphone into lattop since I switched to systemd. In order to work it around, I did some trials to compare the configuration of my laptop, which running archlinux, with another desktop of Fedora 16 in which usbmuxd can be started automatically with systemd as service manager. From the files "85-usbmuxd.rules" and systemd services, especially the ones related to udev, started on both machines, I can not find any difference but the results of connecting iphone to each are completely different. After today's update, the usbmuxd in my laptop worked automatically again and I noticed a new file called "usbmuxd.service" in the package, which definitely has something to do with systemd. My question is why this file is necessary in archlinux. This does not make sense to me because I can not find such thing in Fedora 16 that still work fine with my iphone. Best regards, Zhengyu Xu

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[arch-general] Playback sequence in Amarok-2.5.0-2 gone crazy
by Jayesh Badwaik 30 Jul '12

30 Jul '12

Hi, I just updated my system and amarok moved from 2.5.0-2 to 2.5.0-5. The net upgrade size was surprizing at -50 MB for this single package. Now, I am observing that the playback is completely illogical. I queued some tracks and amarok does not seem to follow any kind of queue. It plays songs at random, while still displaying the queued songs. In even normal playback (random tracks is the one enabled on my config), the track being played has no relation to the track being displayed. The currently played track does not even appear in three to four positions in even backward of previous track. The only time the song being displayed is the one being played is when I manually start the song. After that, too many times, the playlist advances in display, but that same song keeps playing over and over again. I tried installing 2.5.0-2 back, but it would not play due to it requiring libavformat.so.53 which is now on my computer at 54 version and similar other files. I am trying to access Arch Rollback Machine right now to try 2.5.0-4 and will get back to you about what happens with it. -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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[arch-general] btrfs talking install question
by Jude DaShiell 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

in the install boot loader step I noticed speakup was not mentioned in any of the append lines for btrfs when the configuration file was put into the editor. Will speakup=soft added to the append line enable a talking arch linux installation given everything else was done on the arch linux install mp3 Michael Wapples made some time ago? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware eventually fails; software eventually works, no amount of band width can fix poor design Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>

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[arch-general] systemd script at boot?
by jsteel 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hi, Can systemd run a bash script at/after boot without having to install initscripts-systemd for compatibility with rc.local? I assume initscripts-systemd will be depreciated eventually so wonder if there is a native way to do this, or if this is the workaround for now. Thanks, jsteel

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[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
by fredbezies 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hello. I've read all the arguments of Tom and Ionut. Here is my own $0.02 on it. When I started using archlinux back in end of 2008, the winning point was this file. A centralized one where you can set up a lot of single options. It is *far* simpler to edit /etc/rc.conf to load daemons or modules than editing 2 or 3 files. "Killing" /etc/rc.conf can't be do so soon. Or you'll see a lot of old users moving their on other distributions. For me it will be a one way ticket to fedora. And I *do hate* this idea. But developpers must know better than users what is the best for the distro. Killing /etc/rc.conf ? Why not. But for me, it is more KISS oriented than /etc/locale.conf, /etc/vconsole.conf, /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf files. As I said, it is my $0.02. Excuse my bad english, I'm no really awake ! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] systemd and btrfs
by Shridhar Daithankar 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hello All, Just for the sake of archives, I had noted a few days ago, that systemd won't pick up my home partition after an unclean shutdown. The message is available at http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-general@archlinux.org/msg28445.html However, a later and unrelated discussion revealed the problem(I hope so, am no longer on systemd nor am I going to try a forced shutdown), that btrfsck does not honour traditional fsck methods. The thread is here http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/43354 When systemd refused to mount my home partition, it was indeed on btrfs and I could not debug it easily. Taking the advise from the thread, I have set the fsck parameter in fstab to 0, though I am not back on systemd. -- Regards Shridhar

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[arch-general] minbif and systemd scheme
by Caio Prado 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hey guys… I haven’t seen so far any .service file to allow minbif to be executed with systemd scheme rather than initscripts. This is a solution I tried myself and seems to work so I decided to share. It consists of the .service file for systemd and a .conf file for tmpfiles.d so that /run/minbif is always available with the correct ownership. minbif.service: http://pastebin.com/htxMGJk3 minbif.conf: http://pastebin.com/BuYxXRHr Well, it’s very simple but I think it would be nice if minbif package provided it by itself. Hope it will be useful for someone! Bye =) -- Caio A. Prado URBANA LEGIO OMNIA VINCIT “The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don’t.” (Douglas Adams)

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[arch-general] Cannot record video using Cheese.
by fredbezies 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Hello. Tried to record a video using cheese a few minutes ago, and got this in my console : libv4l2: warning v4l2 mmap buffers still mapped on close() ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'. ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not map buffers from device '/dev/video0' ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not negotiate format ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'. ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not map buffers from device '/dev/video0' ** (cheese:14551): WARNING **: Could not negotiate format Any idea ? Tip ? Thanks ! My lsusb : [fred@fredo-arch ~]$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:0761 Microsoft Corp. Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0461:0010 Primax Electronics, Ltd HP Keyboard Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:00cb Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub First line is my webcam (working great besides not being able to record anything using cheese) : 045e:0761 = Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000 -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall - does it have dm_mod and dmraid?
by David C. Rankin 29 Jul '12

29 Jul '12

Guys, Does archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall have the dmraid modules and executable that were missing in archlinux-2011.08.19-netinstall? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] gimp 2.8 - How to change gtk controls back to normal?
by drankinatty 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Guys, Working with gimp 2.8, all of the slider controls are now these awkward highlighted regions instead of being normal sliders. How can I change the interface to get the normal gtk controls back. Here is what I see for all the slider controls: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/Archlinux/gtk-gimp28.jpg When you mouseover a control, you get a double-arrow and you can slide back and forth, but you can no longer click anywhere inside the widget and have it jump by '10' up or down as you could before. I use that jump by 10 all the time to adjust opacity, hue, saturation, etc. The new widgets are patently unusable in that regard. Can it be done without a gimp rebuild?

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[arch-general] bad md5sum on archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso?
by David C. Rankin 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

All, Downloading the archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso from http://cake.lib.fit.edu/archlinux/iso/2012.07.15/, the md5sums.txt files shows: a40c60ce93efb9dfd9a7353310fed35a archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso However, I get: cc979f9ce51a0ffac73b1f60437ffea6 archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall-dual.iso I'll try again, but can someone else confirm the md5sum for the iso? Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?
by David Benfell 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, So now that I've got a network through systemd, I ran into trouble with some daemon service files that I crafted by hand. None of the following directives will work (culled from different files): ExecStartPre=cd /etc/solr ExecStart=$JAVA_HOME/bin/java -jar $JAVA_OPTS start.jar $JETTY_OPTS >> /var/log/jetty.log 2>&1 ExecStop=kill `pidof -o %PPID /usr/sbin/dictd` 2>/dev/null 1>/dev/null Basically lots of things that would be normal in a shell are problematic. So I need to create separate scripts to start and stop some daemons. I'm thinking I definitely do not want to use /etc/rc.d for this (I had to back out and go back to init and /etc/rc.d is still in use for that). Is there some consensus on where such scripts should go? - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQEv+RAAoJELT202JKF+xp9rAP/1+hg9rapqIp8xI01vJ6Uvyd twIXA5bD3LvGS36FkCTmapdpcNKxGzCgxIoXcST0Qe1uJsrFboTl7LGJ14dmBBqg 05tqpvg6Vv4/tv+ac4S6dIO9uY0SmyzZoQMue5B0cvGvEAb7vcdh+dCjru0/YGis 8Nzsyyv3c/hJE43GIL4buz46cqKhcJqQyJAs8xXBbM50uchr2vpOQ6F2COMs196C 4NeLnPut4Gc5xZJd0cJmS/cqAYd7CYH0UX6gGYfxo9GT+CVoLJmnSeooNiRZZBAN uO/Fq7azsN8jRBWynmS0Ckqt5Dx1ErPyW/J2uj3UinMbg2XeOK2cLbmYAsmWyLIu 9fnWfsllHXEs+phbk4qUerojHDH4p/IQAyNV2FsiLVQmAV0FXKZB39NaM+7ws7z4 X9xbRcWKM8kTAflmPdiaGGmDJ7v8E0yhaB/0IbTbAhM2HDQxUVvgpHZFSyiQbR8T pED90wLp2iv10Jl16K/GRdn6GjMLS4QVftAWdPUyfR9NlLV/wPGVsB4jVmTmLzM5 jw0JJvKyrybZvJP0l/G/mUX+0KxHHcSQaldhTL2q5jlD+ZbHOda1inwgH5Dq+eJ2 ruJDNXYIy0Jy7fa1J3Wh+9FRk9LEo9VEdoQhPzjjhYXZ4qnkwRd5etmUun99v6/2 FX8jWC4EAX6Gb0gq9Fxh =zGji -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] talking arch disk and instructions were both outdated here
by Jude DaShiell 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

I'll have to download a newer copy of the talking arch disk among other things that takes account of pacstrap and uses the arch scripts rather than the framework to install archlinux. The braille instructions I made are also outdated so I'll fix that after some reading. Earlier this morning I got through the partitioning and formatting of a hard drive and since the material I have on archlinux on this end is that outdated, I decided to install debian on the large hard drive only archlinux could install on earlier. Debian would always thrash the disk before. This time no disk thrashing. Apparently use of archlinux to give debian some clues worked. I'll put archlinux on some of my smaller drives in the future when I figure out how to do that now that the talking archlinux I have no longer finds grub to install it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware eventually fails; software eventually works, no amount of band width can fix poor design Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>

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[arch-general] Uninstallable Packages
by Jeremiah Dodds 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Sorry if this is dragging up an old topic, but I've been poking around AIF as I'm interested in possibly (hopefully) bringing it up to speed and/or improving it, and I noticed that it's still in the repos, but isn't installable by anyone who doesn't happen to have grub legacy still installed on their system, unless I'm missing something. It seems like we'd want to avoid having to manually remove packages every time it becomes impossible to install a set of them. This might be my unfamiliarity with libalpm or pacman or any other myriad part of the stack, but it seems like the type of thing that could be handled by a utlity and a cron job fairly easily. It also seems like the type of thing that wouldn't be too annoying to deal with manually at the moment, but that could get frustrating for both users and devs down the line. Menial maintanence tasks like that[1] tend to end up sucking down a lot of people's time and energy in the long run, in my experience. If the lack of an automated "dead package remover" is just a "lack of time / patches welcome" type of thing, I'd volunteer to take a crack at writing the thing. If it isn't, I'd really like to know why. Footnotes: [1] unless, of course, it's not actually a menial task, in which case please enlighten me -- Jeremiah Dodds github: https://github.com/jdodds irc : exhortatory

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[arch-general] arduino mega2560 and gcc-avr
by andrea crotti 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

I'm trying to use my arduino mega2560 with arch but there's no way to get it working yet.. I installed the arduino 1.0.1-1, and everything seems to work, until I try to use the Serial, when I get (compiling from gnoduino): avr:5 architecture of input file `/tmp/build1342512569.47XizyI/core.a(HardwareSerial.cpp.o)' is incompatible with avr:6 output collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status I saw about a bug in avr-gcc but it should have been fixed long time ago, and it's probably not the same thing... Anyone got it working?

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[arch-general] rc.conf changes, virtual consoles and initramfs
by Mauro Santos 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

So now that rc.conf was split and the change pushed to the stable repos I have been doing the necessary changes in my system. One problem I have found is that it is not clear how I can configure the system to load (in my case) pt-latin9 and compose.latin1 automatically. This is needed to be able to type things like â and ã. Having KEYMAP="pt-latin9 compose.latin1" in /etc/vconsole.conf will result in an error during boot. Another thing I have noticed is that this change may affect the keymap hook for people that need a fully working mapping, such as people with encrypted root. >From what I understand /etc/vconsole.conf will be sourced by /usr/lib/initcpio/install/keymap, listing both keymaps will probably result in an error that will not be reported since -q is used. Listing both keymaps separately will also not work since only the last attribution will take affect. Am I missing something here, or have I stumbled upon a problem? -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] tmp cleanup problems
by Lukas Jirkovsky 28 Jul '12

28 Jul '12

Hi guys, Today I noticed a bunch of the following (kinda scary) errors on boot: Attempted to remove disk file system, and we can't allow that. rm_rf(/tmp): Operation not permitted And my /tmp is not cleaned up. I guess this is caused by the systemd-tmpfiles. I'm using initscripts. I use separate partition for my /tmp. I have following in the /etc/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf: D /tmp 1777 root root 0d D /var/tmp 1777 root root 10d Is anyone seeing similar errors? Is there a problem with my config, or is a bug? Thanks, Lukas

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