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[arch-general] [signoff] lilo-23.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 09 Apr '11

09 Apr '11

Hi guys, bump with latest fixes, especially kernel sector please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] usbutils-002-2
by Tobias Powalowski 09 Apr '11

09 Apr '11

Hi guys, latest upstream release, - fix lsusb.py #23624 please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] GNOME3 in [testing]
by Matthew Monaco 09 Apr '11

09 Apr '11

On 04/07/2011 03:01 PM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Ionuț Mircea Bîru wrote: > Ionuț Mircea Bîru wrote: > > GNOME 3.0.0 packages are now available in the [testing] repository. These bring > with it an update to gtk2, as well as the new gtk3. > > This is a major update and you should take note of a couple of things: > > * GNOME3 will replace GNOME2 once it gets moved to [extra]. > > * GNOME3 has two modes, "standard" mode (gnome-shell) and "fallback" mode > (gnome-panel + metacity). > > * Panel applets using Bonobo aren't supported anymore and packages depending > on it will be dropped. > > * pulseaudio is now required to run the GNOME desktop. > > * Some packages exist in separate versions for gtk2 and gtk3. These typically > have a name like "packagename3". Examples are vte3, libwebkit3, gtkhtml4. > > * pygobject is now available for Python 3 in the package "py3gobject". > > Have fun testing these packages! > > Update and installation instructions are available at > [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_3][1] > > Bugs related to packaging should be reported to [http://bugs.archlinux.org/][2] > . > > Crashes and feature requests should be reported to > [https://bugzilla.gnome.org/][3] . > > [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_3 (gnome 3 wiki) > > [2]: http://bugs.archlinux.org/ (arch linux bugtracker) > > [3]: http://bugs.archlinux.org (gnome bugtracker) > > URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/gnome3-in-testing/ > _______________________________________________ > arch-announce mailing list > arch-announce(a)archlinux.org > http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce Is pulseaudio mandatory no matter what? Can it be removed if some of the packages are built custom? I like having volume control for HDMI out. And I like that this mysterious starving audio, playing silence, glitch has disappeared. But I don't like that pulse uses so much CPU and i think it's a major reason why my computer is runn 5-8 degrees C hotter with gnome3

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[arch-general] [signoff] lilo-23.1-3
by Tobias Powalowski 09 Apr '11

09 Apr '11

Hi guys, - added kernel sector fix please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] miro very slow to start
by Jorge Almeida 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Title says it all I installed it today. I even thought it wouldn't start, but it did, eventually $ miro --debug DEBUGGING MODE. GNU gdb (GDB) 7.2 Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu". For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>... Reading symbols from /usr/bin/python2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Starting program: /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/miro.real --sync --debug [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0xb7321b70 (LWP 3662)] ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.6:/org/participatoryculture/dtv/OneTime: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. [New Thread 0xb3550b70 (LWP 3664)] [New Thread 0xb2c2fb70 (LWP 3665)] [New Thread 0xb242eb70 (LWP 3666)] [New Thread 0xb1c2db70 (LWP 3667)] [New Thread 0xb142cb70 (LWP 3668)] [New Thread 0xb0c2bb70 (LWP 3669)] [New Thread 0xb042ab70 (LWP 3670)] [New Thread 0xafc29b70 (LWP 3671)] ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject) [New Thread 0xaf3ffb70 (LWP 3674)] [Thread 0xaf3ffb70 (LWP 3674) exited] [New Thread 0xaebfeb70 (LWP 3676)] [Thread 0xaebfeb70 (LWP 3676) exited] [New Thread 0xae3fdb70 (LWP 3677)] [Thread 0xae3fdb70 (LWP 3677) exited] [New Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3678)] [Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3678) exited] WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw multiple empty header lines (https://www.miroguide.com/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw content after empty header (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) WARNING:root:httpclient: saw multiple empty header lines (https://www.miroguide.com/audio/) [New Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3683)] [Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3683) exited] [New Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3684)] [Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3684) exited] [New Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3685)] [New Thread 0xae3fdb70 (LWP 3686)] [Thread 0xadbfcb70 (LWP 3685) exited] 2011-04-08 16:18:18,092 INFO Launching Downloader Daemon 2011-04-08 16:18:18,302 INFO libtorrent: 0.15.5.0 2011-04-08 16:18:18,305 INFO pycurl: libcurl/7.21.4 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5 2011-04-08 16:18:18,314 INFO Daemon ready 2011-04-08 16:18:18,317 INFO libtorrent: 0.15.5.0 2011-04-08 16:18:18,318 INFO pycurl: libcurl/7.21.4 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5 2011-04-08 16:18:28,343 INFO Shutting down downloaders... 2011-04-08 16:18:28,344 INFO Shutting down torrent session... 2011-04-08 16:18:28,347 INFO shutdown() finished 2011-04-08 16:18:28,353 INFO Shutdown complete [Thread 0xb242eb70 (LWP 3666) exited] [Thread 0xb1c2db70 (LWP 3667) exited] [Thread 0xb142cb70 (LWP 3668) exited] [Thread 0xb0c2bb70 (LWP 3669) exited] [Thread 0xb042ab70 (LWP 3670) exited] [Thread 0xae3fdb70 (LWP 3686) exited] [Thread 0xb2c2fb70 (LWP 3665) exited] [Thread 0xafc29b70 (LWP 3671) exited] [Thread 0xb7321b70 (LWP 3662) exited] [Thread 0xb3550b70 (LWP 3664) exited] Program exited normally. I watched "top", it doesn't mention miro, max cpu use is 2%, with chromium. # tail -n 2 /etc/rc.conf DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network alsa gpm) #DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus shorewall network !netfs !crond) # ps aux|grep dbus dbus 1208 0.0 0.0 2376 748 ? Ss 07:47 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system jorge 1360 0.0 0.0 3176 632 ? S 07:52 0:00 dbus-launch --autolaunch e5229351d060964a6e5192eb0000d19a --binary-syntax --close-stderr jorge 1361 0.0 0.0 2508 996 ? Ss 07:52 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session root 3525 0.0 0.0 4224 832 pts/0 S+ 16:03 0:00 grep --colour=auto dbus TIA Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] Archiso, archiso_early, and udev issues with live cd
by Tom medhurst 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Hi Guys, I'm attempting to create my own Arch Live CD and I can't get the archiso hook to complete successfully. In March 2010, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi removed the archiso_early hook from archiso.git, which used to mount /dev/archiso (I'm not entirely sure what this pointed to, but it's clearly required). In the commit message he said it was removed because we could rely on /dev/disk/by-label to get the device (created by udev). However I have built a custom live CD using mkarchiso and there is no /dev/disk available to me, so this boot process fails. I was just wondering if anyone knew why this is missing, and what I can do to get this booting? My mkinitcpio.conf file looks like this: *HOOKS="base udev memdisk archiso archiso_pxe_nbd archiso_loop_mnt pata scsi sata usb fw pcmcia filesystems usbinput"* So udev is definately being run before archiso, but I only have the following in /dev: - char - console - cpu_dma_latency - full - hpet - input - kmem - kmsg - loop0 - mcelog - mem - network_latency - network_throughput - null - port - psaux - ptmx - random - rtc - rtc0 - snapshot - tty - tty0-63 - ttyS0-3 - urandom - vcs - vcs1 - vcsa - vcsa1 - vga_arbiter - zero Thanks, tommed

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[arch-general] gnome3
by Juan Diego Tascón 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

Good day mates. Today I installed gnome3 with "pacman -S gnome-shell testing/gnome" and I'm running it with startx using "exec ck-launch-session gnome-session" on my .xinitrc. I got it working with a recently created user (empty $HOME) but I can't however get it working with my own user, all I get is a black screen with a mouse pointer on it. I've already tried deleting .gnome2* and .gconf*. Is there something else I'm missing here? any ideas? Thank you!

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[arch-general] Fwd: Re: [hylafax-users] Error building 6.0.5 on Arch Linux /sys/stat.h:299:47: error: declaration of ‘int fchmod(int, __mode_t) throw ()’ throws different exceptions
by David C. Rankin 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Just FYI Arch Devs - Hylafax needs a patch to build with gcc 4.5. You may want to wait for 6.0.6 for the next version update. Details from the ifax devs below: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] Error building 6.0.5 on Arch Linux /sys/stat.h:299:47: error: declaration of ‘int fchmod(int, __mode_t) throw ()’ throws different exceptions Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:52:50 -0400 From: Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(a)ifax.com> To: David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> CC: hfax <hylafax-users(a)hylafax.org> You'll want to apply this: http://git.hylafax.org/HylaFAX?a=commitdiff;h=b0d873c950a72aa568d2fcfe7dbc8… I still believe this is a bug in GCC 4.5+, where they turned something every other compiler handles a fatal error, causing configure not to find the declaration for fchmod (and thus declare it's own in port.h). I doubt anyone will be able to convince GCC of this ;-) See: http://bugs.hylafax.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924 configure has been changed in HylaFAX to not tickle that particular property of GCC. That fix was applied to the 6.0 branch after 6.0.5 was released, but no distros were based on GCC 4.5+ yet at that time. I guess it's time for 6.0.6 release... a. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:24 PM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > Guys, > > I was working with hylafax in Arch updating the package from 6.0.4 to 6.0.5 > and I ran into a strange error related to "throws different exceptions": > > <snip> > 86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -c Dispatcher.c++ > In file included from Sys.h:34:0, > from Dispatcher.c++:27: > /usr/include/sys/stat.h:299:47: error: declaration of ‘int fchmod(int, > __mode_t) throw ()’ throws different exceptions > ../port.h:32:12: error: from previous declaration ‘int fchmod(int, mode_t)’ > make[3]: *** [Dispatcher.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory > `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/hylafax/src/hylafax-6.0.5/libhylafax' > make[2]: *** [default] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/hylafax/src/hylafax-6.0.5/libhylafax' > make[1]: *** [dirs] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/hylafax/src/hylafax-6.0.5' > make: *** [default] Error 2 > ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). > Aborting... > > I'm getting better at sorting this stuff out, but exception handling > problems are the exception... no pun intended. What says the experts. I > wanted a clean install to look at permissions again on the bin/notify.php > and bin/faxrcvd.php issue and thought I might as well try 6.0.5. > > What say the experts? What is the probable cause of throwing different > exceptions? The stat.h file on Arch is available on my server here: > > http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/hylafax/stat.h > > -- > David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. > > > ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi > On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request(a)hylafax.org < /dev/null > *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales(a)ifax.com.* > > -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] What happened to Powerpill?
by Marek Otahal 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Hi, anyone knows what happened to Xyne's powerpill [1] pacman wrapper? I started using it recently for it's aria2c multithreaded downloads but a couple of days it disappeared from community/aur and there's no trace. Thanks, marek [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Powerpill -- Marek Otahal :o)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.37.6-1
by Meyithi 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

On 6 April 2011 20:25, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Am Donnerstag 31 März 2011 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: > > Upstream update. This package is NOT in testing (2.6.38 currently > > resides there), but at: > > http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/kernel26/ > > > > please signoff for both arches. > > > > greetings > > tpowa > bump anyone, seems .38 still cannot move due to issues. > > greetings > tpowa > User signoff i686, running since 31 Mar no problems as yet. -- Jason Steadman http://www.meyithi.com/ http://twitter.com/meyithi

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[arch-general] Where should system-wide vim files go?
by Oon-Ee Ng 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

I installed vim-peaksea from the AUR the other day and couldn't use it, because it installed in /usr/share/vim/colors/peaksea.vim. This seems a fairly standard directory, but its not in runtimepath on a fresh install (AFAIK). Checked out some other vim colour-themes on the AUR, the majority seem to install to the same location. Some choose /usr/share/vim/vim** instead, but that breaks when vim updates. Perhaps /usr/share/vim/vimfiles makes more sense (only found one PKGBUILD using that so far). So what's the 'correct' behaviour? The vim split package doesn't seem to do any patches affecting runtimepath, so probably I assume runtimepath is an upstream default. In that case, should AUR packages correct their location? Posting to arch-general because it overlaps and isn't solely an AUR issue.

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[arch-general] Gnome 3 and gcc 4.6 in Fedora 15
by Bernardo Barros 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

I just look at the list of new Features for Fedora 15.. It will have Gnome 3 and gcc 4.6 and a bunch of other things. This means that those projects are reaching a "stable" phase now? They are currently considered unstable and/or in testing on Arch Any predictions on the current and near future status of these projects in Arch? cheers, Bernardo

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Re: [arch-general] GNUstep path
by Cédric Girard 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Le 6 avr. 2011 18:40, "Lukáš Jirkovský" <l.jirkovsky(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > > On 6 April 2011 17:27, Sergej Pupykin <ml(a)sergej.pp.ru> wrote: > > At Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:34:50 +0200, > > Cédric Girard <girard.cedric(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Is there any particular reason why GNUstep (gnustep-base in [community]) get > >> installed in /opt/GNUstep? Especially libraries in > >> "/opt/GNUstep/Local/Library/Libraries/" cannot be found by binaries > >> depending on them unless "/opt/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh" > >> is sourced. > >> > >> Or maybe I just have a bad understanding of how this works ... > > > > Hi, > > > > gnustep-make contains /etc/profile.d/GNUstep.sh, which should be > > sourced automatically. > > > > Cédric, I guess that's because you didn't log out and log in again, > because the files Sergej mentioned are sourced on login. > > Lukas Yes, you're right. I'll test that and give feedback. Thanks -- Cedric Girard

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[arch-general] ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/x86_64/packages
by Sergej Pupykin 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hi, what is this symlink: ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/x86_64/packages/ ?

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[arch-general] GNUstep path
by Cédric Girard 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hello, Is there any particular reason why GNUstep (gnustep-base in [community]) get installed in /opt/GNUstep? Especially libraries in "/opt/GNUstep/Local/Library/Libraries/" cannot be found by binaries depending on them unless "/opt/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh" is sourced. Or maybe I just have a bad understanding of how this works ... -- Cédric Girard

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[arch-general] Default Bootloader for AIF
by Matthew Gyurgyik 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Arch Devs, In November Pierre wrote a mail to arch-dev-public about bootloaders in core. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-November/018445… Pierre wrote: > Summing up my suggestion for some time in the future would be: > * move extlinux/syslinux to core/base > * move grub1 to extra/multilib and remove it from base group > * keep grub2 in extra > * maybe also move lilo to extra > * of course keep all of them on the install cd Now that there is Syslinux support in AIF, should AIF select Syslinux as the "Default" bootloader? Users are asked to select which bootloader package they would like to install. They can either pick from Grub or Syslinux. Since Grub is listed first it is selected as the "Default". ~pyther

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [arch-dev] Packaging inconsistencies of python modules
by Evangelos Foutras 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

On 5 April 2011 16:37, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm facing this exact situation with python-pip and python-virtualenv > right now- both just became python 3 compatible, and as soon as I > rename them I am going to break a lot of people's stuff. It would be > fine if this all happened when we did the "great rebuild" as there > would only be one time of breakage, but the situation right now is > untenable- *every single time I see a python module being updated* I > have to be scared as I can't tell whether the one being installed is 2 > or 3, and whether I'm suddenly going to lose database connectivity or > something. Ah, had the same issue with my pygments package. But because only 3 packages depended on it, I just tweaked the dependencies in those. Now I'm thinking, couldn't we do: python-foo gets renamed to python2-foo and provides/conflicts/replaces=('python-foo') are introduced. python3-foo is added to the repo. The key detail here is the 'python3-' prefix, which allows us to replace python-foo with python2-foo. Looks like numpy [1] is using this approach. Another problem I noticed when I split pygments into Python 2 & 3 packages is command scripts that get installed to /usr/bin/; both versions use the same path, and will conflict. I chose to append a 2 to the command script installation path (/usr/bin/pygmentize -> /usr/bin/pygmentize2) in the Python 2 package. [1] http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/python-numpy/trunk…

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[arch-general] gtk3-engines doesn't work
by Heiher 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Hello, Could you tell me why gtk3-engines doesn't work? Seems the gtk3 not load it by 'strace'. -- Best regards! Heiher

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.38.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Hi guys, please signoff 2.6.38 series for both arches. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Features included: - latest stable patches - disabled /dev/kmem - added AMD_IOMMU support - kernel image is now xz compressed - NUMA is enabled on x86_64 - AUTOSCHED (aka the wonder patch) is enabled - aufs2.1 latest snapshot - added additional i915 patch - added radeaon kms fix greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [systemd] v23 released, heads up
by Dave Reisner 05 Apr '11

05 Apr '11

Hey all, A heads up for anyone using systemd, I've just pushed the latest tag to [community-testing]. It's going to be hanging out there until we at least see udev-167. More notably, there's been a fairly silly change [1] in place that will muck up the formatting of log facilities in dmesg and syslog [2] without a kernel patch [3] to accompany it. Understand that this is mostly cosmetic, but for anyone micromanaging their syslogs, this may have an impact unless you backport the patch to your kernel. regards, dave [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/commit/?id=7c3b203c5c69fc37c8d143851cd3… [2] http://sprunge.us/Hcjg [3] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=patch;h=…

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[arch-general] Packages for stable core EFL libraries?
by mathieu p 04 Apr '11

04 Apr '11

Hi, The current packages for eina, evas, ecore, etc in community are -svn, and since the enlightenment team released the 1.0 ( http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/show&l=en&news_id=28) and later the 1.0.1 (http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/show&l=en&news_id=29) version of their toolkit, I think it would be fitting to have at least the concerned packages in their stable version. Afaik, elementary is broken in the -svn packages, and it should work with the stable version (and with the latest revision).

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[arch-general] deprecate grub (legacy) - opinion?
by KESHAV P.R. 04 Apr '11

04 Apr '11

Hi all, I want your opinion regarding whether grub-legacy (core/grub) package should be deprecated (downgrade it to extra/community/AUR) now that syslinux is in core. THe actual upstream has been dead for 4 years and every fork (grub4dos, super grub disk, grub-fedora) is either lacking in functionality (read: GPT and such support) or being deprecated themselves in favour of grub2. Although grub does support gpt via a patch (not currently in the grub package), syslinux and grub2's gpt support is much better. The background of this message is the 'Default Bootloader in AIF' topic in arch-releng. My views regarding grub-legacy and syslinux are at http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2011-March/001609.html and Dieter's reply at http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2011-March/001610.html. I mainly want the opinion of Ronald Van Haren (pressh - i hope i got the name right) (core/grub maintainer), and also other devs and TU's regarding whether this should be done. If it is not a problem for any dev or TU to maintain patches, should any of the grub-legacy fork(s) be deprecated, then its okay to leave the package as it is. But if it is a problem to maintain the package, in the light of gpt, btrfs, nilfs2 and all other FS and partition table problems (with grub-legacy) it should be deprecated IMO. Most of the advantages listed for grub-legacy are true for syslinux too, except multi-partition booting support (syslinux is limited to the partition from which it is booted). The decision taken by dev regarding this will (to some extent) determine the default bootloader supported in aif, and subsequently the bug-reports etc. If multi-partition support if needed, the user can use grub2-bios>=1.99~rc1 which is superior to grub2<=1.98 and also includes a menu.lst to grub.cfg conversion utility (in grub2-common package). Regards. Keshav PS: This can be considered analogous to grnome3 replacing gnome2 in the repos although some people don't like it, since it is the policy of Arch to package the latest release versions, in which case grub should have been out of the repos a long time ago.

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[arch-general] xorg-apps duplicate
by Heiko Baums 03 Apr '11

03 Apr '11

Since the latest xorg groups transition there's a package xorg-apps in [extra] and a group (xorg-apps). I guess one of them - most likely the package in [extra] - should be removed. Heiko

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[arch-general] pacman: downloading without "looking for inter-conflicts"?
by Magnus Therning 03 Apr '11

03 Apr '11

Is there some way of downloading upgradable packages without running the "looking for inter-conflicts" step? I have a locally modified broadcom-wl package[1], the modification is a dependency on the specific version of the kernel (in order to avoid the all too common situation where I updated the kernel and promptly lost connectivity). What I'd really like to do is download all upgradable packages, then remove connectivity in a controlled way, perform the upgrade from the local cache, re-boot, re-build the broadcom-wl package. I fail at this since 'pacman -Suw' won't download upgradable packages if there are "inter-conflicts" (in my case caused by my broadcom-wl package). Is there some way to get pacman to perform the download without "looking for inter-conflicts"? /M [1]: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19514 -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

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[arch-general] Can a ISP modify incoming http traffic to display ads using transparent proxy server ?
by Partha Chowdhury 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

My ISP is running a transparent proxy server on port 80 as I found out from this thread http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2011-March/019172.html Now from last two or three days, I keep getting pop-up ads from a particular domain on every website i go to - even on text only websites ! If i choose another proxy server in firefox , then that does not appear on any site. But i normally connect to internet, that specific pop-up to a very particular website appears on every single page. If I install adblock plus in firefox, then of course no ads are displayed. So is it possible that my ISP is serving that ad by intercepting incoming http traffic ?

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[arch-general] "The Canterbury Distribution"
by C Anthony Risinger 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

EDIT: ah jeez ... it's that damn time of year again. haha i always forget about the day of fools until i'm 3 seconds from spamming my gullibility to the world. sending anyway because i already wrote it ;-) C Anthony ------------------------------------------------------ so i sorta meandered to the debian.org homepage randomly, and was surprised to see this: [ it's a link, go ahead and click it :-) ] http://www.debian.org/ ------------------------------------------------------ "We are pleased to announce the birth of the Canterbury distribution. Canterbury is a merge of the efforts of the community distributions formerly known as Debian, Gentoo, Grml, openSUSE and Arch Linux. The target is to produce a really unified effort and be able to stand up in a combined effort against proprietary operating systems, to show off that the Free Software community is actually able to work together for a common goal instead of creating more diversity." ------------------------------------------------------ Features The Canterbury distribution will combine the best of the linux world to another game changer for the good of the users: Simple as Arch - technologically simple and bleeding edge. Stable as Debian - highly dependable. Malleable as Gentoo - you get what you really want. Live as Grml - readily usable. Openminded as openSUSE - broad and welcoming for everyone. ------------------------------------------------------ (2011-04-01) - Public Announce Today we came to the point where we feel comfortable to announce the joined effort to the general public. Please watch this space over the next days. ------------------------------------------------------ looks like it was announced today-ish (er tomorrow for me ...), so what i'm wondering if there is any kind of official affiliation here? did anyone here (particularly those close to development processes) know about this? at any rate, sounds pretty cool, should be a good thing. C Anthony

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[arch-general] AUR Program
by Heiher 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Hello, I'm porting the ArchLinux to Loongson (mipsel) architecture. I want to make a AUR for users. Where can I download AUR program? Thanks! -- Best regards! Heiher

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[arch-general] A question regarding lxc
by Piyush P Kurur 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Can anyone please tell me whether my understanding of lxc is correct. Say I have lxc containers foo1, foo2 and bar1, bar2 such that (1) foo1 and foo2 have seperate file hiearchy and (2) bar1 and bar2 share /usr /bin/ (i.e. directories where executables and shared libraries are kept) via read only bind mount. I would expect that in configuration (2) for common shared libraries, only one copy would be loaded where as for (1) both will load its own versions of the shared library even if they are identical otherwise. Is that correct? The next question is what is the best way to check this out. Regards ppk

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[arch-general] Updating hylafax to 6.0.5 - strange error - need help? fchmod(int, __mode_t) throw ()’ throws different exceptions
by David C. Rankin 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Guys, I was working with hylafax in ABS on the 6.0.4 to 6.0.5 upgrade and I ran into a strange error related to "throws different exceptions": <snip> 86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -c Dispatcher.c++ In file included from Sys.h:34:0, from Dispatcher.c++:27: /usr/include/sys/stat.h:299:47: error: declaration of ‘int fchmod(int, __mode_t) throw ()’ throws different exceptions ../port.h:32:12: error: from previous declaration ‘int fchmod(int, mode_t)’ make[3]: *** [Dispatcher.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/hylafax/src/hylafax-6.0.5/libhylafax' make[2]: *** [default] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/hylafax/src/hylafax-6.0.5/libhylafax' make[1]: *** [dirs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/arch/pkg/bld/hylafax/src/hylafax-6.0.5' make: *** [default] Error 2 ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... I'm getting better at sorting this stuff out, but exception handling problems are the exception... no pun intended. Any ideas? upstream issue? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] ArchLinux for mipsel (Loongson)
by Heiher 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Hello, Main page : http://dev.lemote.com:2001/ Docs : http://dev.lemote.com:2001/archlinux/other/docs/ -- Best regards! Heiher

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.37.6-1
by Tobias Powalowski 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Upstream update. This package is NOT in testing (2.6.38 currently resides there), but at: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/kernel26/ please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] cancel request to reopen a feature request
by Kyle 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Is there a way to cancel a request to reopen a feature request? Seems I jumped the gun just a little when I requested to reopen it, as the package release that implements the feature took a little time to get to my mirror of choice, and I based my request on the prior release. The task in question is #23517, and it should indeedd remain closed, as the feature has been implemented and I have successfully tested it. The error message I pasted in the task is from the previous release, which was still the latest version on my chosen mirror at the time I encountered the error. BTW, I would like to thank the Arch developers for such a quick response to my rather minor feature request. It was fixed just over two hours after I submitted it. You guys rock! ~Kyle

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[arch-general] Display "Flicker" with 2.6.37.5-1 & nvidia 270.30-3 (dual head)
by David C. Rankin 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Guys, Can anyone else confirm seeing display "Flicker" on startup with the new kernel and nvidia driver? What I mean by "Flicker" is that dark bands 1/8-1/4 screen wide (vertically) will appear as horizontal bars for a fraction of a second for the first few minutes after boot. (It is not hardware warming up/etc.. -- it happens on reboot as well and this box runs 24/7) The bars appear causing what looks like an old vertical timing sync problem on a CRT monitor, even though this is LCD. I am running dual-head and have seen other posts suggesting the problem is primarily a dual-head problem. After install of the new kernel and nvidia driver (2.6.37.5-1 & nvidia 270.30-3) the flicker was really bad, to the point I didn't think it was ever going to quit. The display has settled down, but I still get the flicker every time I switch desktops. (switching from desktop 1 -> desktop 2, with kpager) I don't know what software package may be at the bottom of this? (Xorg? Nvidia?) I would like to know if anyone else has experienced this and if you have any thoughts on which package it may be. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] OHCI: work around for nVidia shutdown problem
by Andre "Osku" Schmidt 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Hello, do you have a nvidia usb controller? and had/have problems with usb devices staying powered on after shutdown? this patch added in 2.6.37 had the opposite effect on my system: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/341321/ but the helpful devs found a solution: http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=130142049527638&w=2 so in my system all is fine again. but, as i didn't find anyone with this problem (the first patch having the opposite effect) anywhere, i wanted to ask you if you can test this patch and tell if your nvidia usb controller still (or now) works as supposed. if desired, i can also tell when (if) this patch gets included upstream. (so you don't need to hassle with this patch, but know when to check) cheers .andre

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.36-1
by Andreas Radke 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Upstream update with security fixes. Please signoff. -Andy

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Re: [arch-general] Port 80 is shown open in port scan without any web server running
by Partha Chowdhury 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

On 30/03/11 14:16, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 30.03.2011 10:36, schrieb Partha Chowdhury: > > >>> sudo /sbin/iptables-save >>> # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.7 on Wed Mar 30 13:59:44 2011 >>> *filter >>> :INPUT DROP [2844:282816] >>> :FORWARD DROP [0:0] >>> :OUTPUT ACCEPT [9999:990098] >>> -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT >>> -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT >>> -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 54215 -j ACCEPT >>> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 54215 -j ACCEPT >>> COMMIT >>> # Completed on Wed Mar 30 13:59:44 2011 > The following is OT, but I have to say it: > > This is an affront to every admin of smaller or bigger networks. It > hurts my eyes. What do you try to achieve by dropping unwanted traffic? > You even drop ICMP entirely - dropping ICMP is the cause of a large > number of problems. > > There is no security advantage, but you deliberately prevent proper > communication between yourself and other computers on the internet. > Well I picked this configuration from Red Hat training books, except for port 54215 which I open for bit torrent. What do you suggest about the ideal iptables configuration for basic desktop user - allowing proper connection as you said and yet stay secure from malicious port scanners ? On 30/03/11 14:20, Jan de Groot wrote: > . Try doing an nmap -sV and > you'll see what software is running on the proxyserver. I did what you said: > nmap -sV 115.187.45.97 > > Starting Nmap 4.20 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2011-03-30 15:06 IST > Interesting ports on 115.187.45.97: > Not shown: 1696 filtered ports > PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION > 80/tcp open http? > 1 service unrecognized despite returning data. If you know the > service/version, please submit the following fingerprint at > http://www.insecure.org/cgi-bin/servicefp-submit.cgi : > SF-Port80-TCP:V=4.20%I=7%D=3/30%Time=4D92F9D0%P=i686-pc-linux-gnu%r(Help,D > SF:DD,"HTTP/1\.1\x20400\x20Bad\x20Request\r\nServer:\x20squid/3\.2\.0\.4-2 > SF:0110203\r\nMime-Version:\x201\.0\r\nDate:\x20Wed,\x2030\x20Mar\x202011\ > SF:x2009:37:20\x20GMT\r\nContent-Type:\x20text/html\r\nContent-Length:\x20 > SF:3234\r\nX-Squid-Error:\x20ERR_INVALID_REQ\x200\r\nContent-Language:\x20 > SF:en\r\nX-Cache:\x20MISS\x20from\x20Streamride\r\nVia:\x201\.1\x20Streamr > SF:ide\x20$squid/3\.2\.0\.4-20110203$\r\nConnection:\x20close\r\n\r\n<!D > SF:OCTYPE\x20html\x20PUBLIC\x20\"-//W3C//DTD\x20HTML\x204\.01//EN\"\x20\"h > SF:ttp://www\.w3\.org/TR/html4/strict\.dtd\">\n<html><head>\n<meta\x20http > SF:-equiv=\"Content-Type\"\x20content=\"text/html;\x20charset=utf-8\">\n<t > SF:itle>ERROR:\x20The\x20requested\x20URL\x20could\x20not\x20be\x20retriev > SF:ed</title>\n<style\x20type=\"text/css\"><!--\x20\n\x20/\*\n\x20Styleshe > SF:et\x20for\x20Squid\x20Error\x20pages\n\x20Adapted\x20from\x20design\x20 > SF:by\x20Free\x20CSS\x20Templates\n\x20http://www\.freecsstemplates\.org\n > SF:\x20Released\x20for\x20free\x20under\x20a\x20Creative\x20Commons\x20Att > SF:ribution\x202\.5\x20License\n\*/\n\n/\*\x20Page\x20basics\x20\*/\n\*\x2 > SF:0{\n\tfont-family:\x20verdana,\x20sans-serif;\n}\n\nhtml\x20body\x20{\n > SF:\tmargin:\x200;\n\tpadding:\x200;\n\tbackground:\x20#efefef;\n\tfont-si > SF:ze:\x2012px")%r(SSLSessionReq,DE3,"HTTP/1\.1\x20400\x20Bad\x20Request\r > SF:\nServer:\x20squid/3\.2\.0\.4-20110203\r\nMime-Version:\x201\.0\r\nDate > SF::\x20Wed,\x2030\x20Mar\x202011\x2009:37:20\x20GMT\r\nContent-Type:\x20t > SF:ext/html\r\nContent-Length:\x203240\r\nX-Squid-Error:\x20ERR_INVALID_RE > SF:Q\x200\r\nContent-Language:\x20en\r\nX-Cache:\x20MISS\x20from\x20Stream > SF:ride\r\nVia:\x201\.1\x20Streamride\x20$squid/3\.2\.0\.4-20110203$\r\n > SF:Connection:\x20close\r\n\r\n<!DOCTYPE\x20html\x20PUBLIC\x20\"-//W3C//DT > SF:D\x20HTML\x204\.01//EN\"\x20\"http://www\.w3\.org/TR/html4/strict\.dtd\ > SF:">\n<html><head>\n<meta\x20http-equiv=\"Content-Type\"\x20content=\"tex > SF:t/html;\x20charset=utf-8\">\n<title>ERROR:\x20The\x20requested\x20URL\x > SF:20could\x20not\x20be\x20retrieved</title>\n<style\x20type=\"text/css\"> > SF:<!--\x20\n\x20/\*\n\x20Stylesheet\x20for\x20Squid\x20Error\x20pages\n\x > SF:20Adapted\x20from\x20design\x20by\x20Free\x20CSS\x20Templates\n\x20http > SF:://www\.freecsstemplates\.org\n\x20Released\x20for\x20free\x20under\x20 > SF:a\x20Creative\x20Commons\x20Attribution\x202\.5\x20License\n\*/\n\n/\*\ > SF:x20Page\x20basics\x20\*/\n\*\x20{\n\tfont-family:\x20verdana,\x20sans-s > SF:erif;\n}\n\nhtml\x20body\x20{\n\tmargin:\x200;\n\tpadding:\x200;\n\tbac > SF:kground:\x20#efefef;\n\tfont-size:\x2012px"); > > Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at > http://insecure.org/nmap/submit/ . > Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 114.226 seconds So it seems my ISP is running squid version 3.2.0.4-20110203 in transparent mode , just like you said. Interestingly when connecting to random ip addresses on port 80, the error page returned is quite different from normal ones. http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?280f0ef980.png Does this transparent proxy pose any threat and what can I do to stop that ?

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[arch-general] Port 80 is shown open in port scan without any web server running
by Partha Chowdhury 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Hallo to everyone on the list. It is my first message in a while. I have recently changed my internet provider as i have moved. My previous provider was a DSL provider and the current one is the local cable operator.Now with current provider port 80 is shown open in every port scan test , all other ports being shown as stealth. But with the previous provider , every port scanned was shown as stealth. I am not running any web service . And the change in software being the one that is used to authenticate. Previously it was rp-pppoe now it is the GNU/Linux client of cyberoam software. Output from lsof: > sudo /bin/lsof -i > COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME > pdnsd 1207 nobody 4u IPv4 2434 TCP localhost:domain > (LISTEN) > pdnsd 1207 nobody 5u IPv4 2435 UDP localhost:domain > pdnsd 1207 nobody 8u IPv4 81232 UDP > 172.16.37.164:40131->AS-20144-has-not-REGISTERED-the-use-of-this-prefix:domain > linc 1214 root 5u IPv4 2448 UDP *:55089 > ntpd 1216 root 16u IPv4 2451 UDP *:ntp > ntpd 1216 root 17u IPv4 2455 UDP localhost:ntp > ntpd 1216 root 18u IPv4 2456 UDP 172.16.37.164:ntp > X 1377 root 1u IPv4 2964 TCP *:x11 (LISTEN) > gweather- 1538 partha 18u IPv4 78973 TCP > 172.16.37.164:53421->a125-56.222-11.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com:http > (CLOSE_WAIT) Iptables configuration: > sudo /sbin/iptables-save > # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.7 on Wed Mar 30 13:59:44 2011 > *filter > :INPUT DROP [2844:282816] > :FORWARD DROP [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [9999:990098] > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 54215 -j ACCEPT > -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 54215 -j ACCEPT > COMMIT > # Completed on Wed Mar 30 13:59:44 2011 With my new provider, I have to provide a static ip 172.16.37.x to eth0 and then start the linc daemon to authenticate, after that i am allocated a public ip. Now my question is: why is port 80 open and does it indicate any security vulnerability ?

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[arch-general] Wavpack support in Sox
by Kyle 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Having recently migrated from Ubuntu, I notice that while Ubuntu's Sox package didn't support encoding to mp3, it did support Wavpack encoding and decoding, whereas in Arch, it supports mp3 encoding, but Wavpack seems to be unsupported. Am I missing an add-on that will make Sox support Wavpack, or do I need to rebuild the package with Wavpack support? ~Kyle

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Re: [arch-general] Port 80 is shown open in port scan without any web server running
by Simon Perry 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:06:48 +0530, Partha Chowdhury wrote: > Output from lsof: >> sudo /bin/lsof -i >> COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME >> pdnsd 1207 nobody 4u IPv4 2434 TCP localhost:domain >> (LISTEN) >> pdnsd 1207 nobody 5u IPv4 2435 UDP localhost:domain >> pdnsd 1207 nobody 8u IPv4 81232 UDP >> 172.16.37.164:40131->AS-20144-has-not-REGISTERED-the-use-of-this-prefix:domain >> linc 1214 root 5u IPv4 2448 UDP *:55089 >> ntpd 1216 root 16u IPv4 2451 UDP *:ntp >> ntpd 1216 root 17u IPv4 2455 UDP localhost:ntp >> ntpd 1216 root 18u IPv4 2456 UDP 172.16.37.164:ntp >> X 1377 root 1u IPv4 2964 TCP *:x11 (LISTEN) >> gweather- 1538 partha 18u IPv4 78973 TCP >> 172.16.37.164:53421->a125-56.222-11.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com:http >> (CLOSE_WAIT) I think you're confused. That's essentially a netstat, I can't see where you have 80 open on your IP of 172.16.37.164. It just shows you have a connection *to* port 80 to an Akamai host (a common provider of localised content used by many companies). -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz) [ s a n x i o n . n e t ]

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[arch-general] inefficient handling of bug reports?
by Angus 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

When I file a bug report with the Flyspray web interface, why can't I specify the package it concerns? Having that option should make it possible for the package maintainers to be immediately and automatically notified of the report. The way it works now seems to be that I have to wait for some generic bug janitor to manually assign my report to the maintainer of the package (correct me if I'm mistaken). For example, I filed a bug report nearly two days ago, but apparently no janitor (or any other maintainer) has looked at it jet, which means all that time is wasted for hardly any reason (and no, I won't specify which bug. It's irrelevant to the issue I'm addressing here.) I believe the coders among us appreciate efficiency and automation, so maybe we can improve this system?

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Re: [arch-general] Port 80 is shown open in port scan without any web server running
by Simon Perry 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:18:47 +0530, Partha Chowdhury wrote: > initially I wanted to know why port 80 is shown open on my machine > and i gave the lsof output to show that no service was listening to > port 80 on my machine. The nmap output of the ip - that is my public > ip at the moment ( got that by visiting whatismyip.com) shows port 80 > as open when it should be blocked according to my iptables > configuration. > > Basically i was afraid some rootkit/malware was running web server on > my machine by making it invisible ! So your machine is 172.16.37.164, which you have to configure and tell your ISP because they NAT externally from 115.187.45.97 to many internal 172.16.37.* users? Therefore more than one person could have an external address of 115.187.45.97 mapping back to their 172.16.37.* IP? Even though only one person could have 115.187.45.97:80 mapped back to them? Are you sure about how this works? -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz) [ s a n x i o n . n e t ]

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[arch-general] New Kernel - Virtualbox VM kernel crash on shutdown
by David C. Rankin 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Guys, kernel26-2.6.37.5-1 running in a virtualbox vm is causing a kernel crash on shutdown. The full screen of the crash is here: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/arch/bugs/kernel/vbox-crash-on-shutdown.jpg The Call Trace: shows the likes of: shrink_dcache_for_unmount_subtree shrink_dcache_for_unmount generic_shutdown_super <snip> I'm not great at reading the screens, so if you are interested in the full error, it is shown in the link about. Has anyone else found a workaround? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] Removing network utilities from base group?
by Grigorios Bouzakis 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

Daniel Isenmann wrote: > Hi, > > I have a feature request (https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22481) since > January which stated that rp-pppoe should be removed from the base > group. Described in the details he stated that every network package > should be removed from the base group and should only be in core. > > I'm not really have a opinion to that topic, so what do you think about > it? For me we can leave it as it is and do nothing at this topic, then I > will close this feature request as "won't implement". > > -Daniel > My own plan, originally brain0's but i adopted it and probably extended it as well, has been fully implementing https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12890 Nevermind that its closed now, its only half done as far as i am concerned. Eventually make every package of core, besides the library dependencies, be part of a group, like base, base-networking etc. I dont know how much of a realistic plan it still is today, but i intend to look at it at some point. And that was part of the reason i opened those feature requests (theres similar ones for ppp, wpa_supplicant and dash as well). The core repo keeps growing and growing. Bootloaders, file system support utilities, dependencies like libedit get added. Yet the installer has only 1 package selection dialogue with all the applications. That works fine for packages in base and base-devel which are tagged as such, but not so much for the other packages which dont belong in a group, and especially libraries which are nothing more than dependencies to other packages. The installer has changed lately and from what i've read it includes the description of the packages.I had opened https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12942 at the time about adding a seperate selection dialogue for each group, but i havent seen the new installer in action so i dont know if any of the above still apply, but that was my initial motivation from what i can remember. ---- Greg

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-releng] Partition tools in AIF (was: Default Bootloader for AIF)
by KESHAV P.R. 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 15:07, David Campbell <davekong(a)archlinux.us> wrote: > Excerpts from Dieter Plaetinck's message of 2011-03-28 12:06:21 -0400: >> Hmm, and does it have a proper UI in ncurses or something? to replace >> cfdisk in aif? > > It will when cparted is proper. Whether cparted will be ported to > use libparted directly, rather than using Python bindings, is yet > to be seen. I certainly prefer writing/maintaining Python code > over C though, and I don't see any benefit to translating it into > C other than avoiding Python as a dependency. > Instead of duplicating efforts, you can try hacking on http://www.gnu.org/software/fdisk/ which uses libparted as backend (fdisk and cfdisk present but no sfdisk though). That project is inactive but not discontinued. >> I know about the newt-based nparted but I'm told it's badly maintained. > > As far as I could tell, nparted is dead. > -- > David Campbell > Regards. Keshav

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.38.1-1
by Tobias Powalowski 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Hi guys, please signoff 2.6.38 series for both arches. It's a security update too so it would make sense, to move in .38.1 to [core] soon. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Features included: - latest stable patches - disabled /dev/kmem - added AMD_IOMMU support - kernel image is now xz compressed - NUMA is enabled on x86_64 - AUTOSCHED (aka the wonder patch) is enabled - aufs2.1 latest snapshot - added additional i915 patch - added radeaon kms fix greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] inefficient handling of bug reports?
by Simon Perry 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:18:14 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: > There is no problem. What are you talking about? Anyone is free to > mention in the report what package they think is related. Which eludes to the original issue - instead of a wrangler, or team of wranglers, who have to deal with everything, let users do the initial assignment, then if it needs to go somewhere else, the team it's been assigned to can throw it back to the "wranglers". I digress, I think... > What information? You have a tracker, you know it's Flyspray, if you > can file a feature request with at least a demonstrated logic if not > a > PHP patch. If it's easy to implement, we might do it. Else, you can > go > upstream. > > Now, let's not get into why we use Flyspray in the first place. You > can ask the rest of the OSS world why they use what they use. I understand, but look, this is the first time I've ever commented on this list. Even though the button name makes no sense, I'll go back to lurking. -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz) [ s a n x i o n . n e t ]

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Re: [arch-general] inefficient handling of bug reports?
by Simon Perry 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:07:12 +0300, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > instead we chose to have some style but not everyone use it. I don't understand why people can't tell other people where they think the bug is. If it's not right, let the wrangler handle it. I think if someone is prepared to even consider submitting a bug report in an environment as intimidating as Arch, give them a go. Hell, I'm shit-scared about sending this e-mail. >> I believe the coders among us appreciate efficiency and automation, >> so >> maybe we can improve this system? > > only if we use bugzilla. Sorry if I'm wrong-top-posting or whatever, I'm using Roundcube. I've had an account on bugs.archlinux.org for a while, I still can't even see the "new bug" button, it doesn't exist as far as I can see. I don't see why being able to say "this bug is in package X" is such a problem, given that only the chosen people are able to create bugs in the first place. You always say you want people to help, but it seems so hard to do so, even when the information you have is easy to convey. -- Simon Perry (aka Pezz) [ s a n x i o n . n e t ]

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[arch-general] New list: arch-projects
by Thomas Bächler 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

A new list has been created: arch-projects. This list is for development discussion, patches and pull requests for initscripts, netcfg, dbscripts, devtools (and maybe other projects, those are the ones I could think of). Anyone is free to subscribe, but please, no user discussions (keep those to the forums or arch-general). Fun fact: There was a mailing list called arch-projects once, and it has been deleted, but the old archives are still there.

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[arch-general] flyspray mailing list
by Sergej Pupykin 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Hello, what about creating mailing list with all flyspray notifications? I think it can take off some load from bug wrangler person and may be usefull for Arch users.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.38-2
by Tobias Powalowski 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

Hi guys, please signoff 2.6.38 series for both arches. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Features included: - latest stable patches - disabled /dev/kmem - added AMD_IOMMU support - kernel image is now xz compressed - NUMA is enabled on x86_64 - AUTOSCHED (aka the wonder patch) is enabled - aufs2.1 latest snapshot greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.38-1
by Tobias Powalowski 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

Hi guys, please signoff 2.6.38 series for both arches. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Features included: - kernel image is now xz compressed - NUMA is enabled on x86_64 - AUTOSCHED (aka the wonder patch) is enabled - aufs2.1 latest snapshot greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Thinkpad W510 Config: ScreenTouch
by Bernardo Barros 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Please, I'd like to know if it is possible to use ThinkPad W510 touchscreen on Linux. I see there are a bunch of kernel modules for touchscreens, but I can't find this information on the Wiki. Cheers, Bernardo

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[arch-general] [signoff] b43-fwcutter-014-1
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hi guys, latest upstream release, please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] mdadm-3.1.5-1
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hi guys, latest upstream release, - fixed CFLAGS #22437 - fixed email sending on breakage #20937 please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] usbutils-002-1
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hi guys, latest upstream release, only bugfixes. please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] dmraid-1.0.0.rc16-3
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hi guys, latest upstream release, please signoff both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.37.5-1
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Upstream update. This package is NOT in testing (2.6.38 currently resides there), but at: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/kernel26/ please signoff for both arches. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] How often kernel26-lts updated?
by David Rosenstrauch 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Just wondering: what's the general policy about how often (and why) kernel26-lts gets updated? I know it's supposed to be a "long-term supported" kernel, making it more appropriate for servers and such. But it seems like it gets updated almost as often as the main kernel26 package. Also, I saw today that it's currently flagged as out of date. What would be the criteria for it being out of date? Is there some upstream release that the lts kernel follows along with? Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] Xorg-server 1.10 will move to extra with 2.6.38 kernel
by Andreas Radke 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

Just a reminder. No major issues so far with the new Xorg-server expect a known segfault in xfdesktop when logging out. If there are objection you should hurry to file bugs. -Andy

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[arch-general] eigen version
by Arthur Titeica 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

Hello. Since yesterday pacman -Syu complains about the eigen package. eigen: local (3.0.0-1) is newer than extra (2.0.15-1) Before I make any changes I thought I'd ask here maybe anyone knows what is going on. Thanks! -- Arthur Titeica PharmEc Software

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[arch-general] CUPS - 'DefaultEncryption Never' required to prevent cups 'Add Printer' hang - ssl for apache OK?
by David C. Rankin 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

Guys, Cups has always been great, it either works or it doesn't. When it doesn't, it has been difficult to find good documentation to fix it. On Arch, I have run across an issue that seems simple, but I don't understand it enough to update the Arch wiki yet, so I'm looking for a bit of help. Symptoms: Cups web interface (on network server - not localhost) can be accessed fine, user is a member of 'lp' with lppasswd set giving user admin rights in the cups password digest (md5). SystemGroup lp sys root wheel ServerName, ServerAdmin, ServerAlias, Port, Listen and 'Location /', 'Location /admin' and 'Location /admin/conf' all properly set. /etc/hosts is correct. In the web interface clicking on "admin" then "Add Printer" returns the error: "426 Upgrade Required" meaning cups tried to switch to ssl for the Add Printer feature and something has failed leaving the cups process hung. '/etc/rc.d/cups stop' has no effect, 'pidof cupsd' and then 'kill <pid>' has no effect. The only way to kill the hung process is 'kill -9 <pid>' The cups web interface can "Edit Configuration File', 'View Access Log', 'View Error Log', etc. all work just fine with no hang, but if you try and 'Add Printer' the cups process hangs. The httpd-ssl.conf is correct as are the /etc/httpd/certs. All other pages on the site can be accessed via https, but cups hangs for some reason. Googling, easily turns up a workaround for cupsd.conf: DefaultEncryption Never Which prevents cups from ever switching to ssl for configuration via the web interface but doesn't explain why it is needed. I would like to understand why this workaround is needed and add this information to the https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cups page, but I don't understand why cups is hanging. From the error log you have the entry: Unable to set ACLs on root certificate "/var/run/cups/certs/0" - Operation not supported. That looks related to me. Threads like: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=756693 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=85454 don't give any solutions - just more guessed at work-arounds. Obviously, I'm not the only one bitten by this one: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22895 but no solution or explanation there either. Also, in all the arch bbs threads everybody says you have to use 'lp' as the SystemGroup -- why? Why not 'sys' or 'wheel' if you are already a member and you have proper entries in the cups password digest? It's just a group right? If it has to be used, then why isn't it the default? If any cups expert can steer me straight on the SystemGroup requirement and why 'DefaultEncryption Never' is needed, I'm more than happy to write it up in the wiki. Anybody got an explanation or link I didn't find on these issues? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pacman 3.5.1-1
by Peter Lewis 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Dan McGee wrote: > Should fix all the known rough edges in 3.5.0 release. > http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/tree/NEWS?h=maint > > All issues from the 3.5.0 signoff thread have been addressed. For what it's worth, signoff x86_64 with pleasure. Thanks for all the great work into 3.5 guys, -Q now appears orders of magnitude faster. Just wanted to say great work, s'all :-) Pete.

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[arch-general] Python 3.2mu breaks pycairo ?
by Fons Adriaensen 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

Hello all, A full system update yesterday replaced Python 3.1 by 3.2mu (what does the 'mu' mean BTW) and this seems to break pycairo: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./mkmeter.py", line 3, in <module> from cairo import * File "/usr/lib/python3.2/site-packages/cairo/__init__.py", line 18, in <module> from ._cairo import * ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.2/site-packages/cairo/_cairo.cpython-32mu.so: undefined symbol: PyCObject_FromVoidPtr And indeed PyCObject_FromVoidPtr() and its inverse, PyCObject_AsVoidPtr() are no longer available in Python 3.2. They can be replaced by P = PyCObject_FromVoidPtr(X, destroy) --> P = PyCapsule_New(X, 0, destroy) X = PyCObject_AsVoidPtr(P) --> X = PyCapsule_GetPointer(P, 0) and the 'destroy' function now takes a PyObject* instead of PyCObject*, so you have to use PyCapsule_GetPointer() inside it to get the C/C++ pointer. Ciao, -- FA

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.33-2
by Tobias Powalowski 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Latest LTS kernel is in testing, - added AMD_IOMMU support - disabled /dev/kmem please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] mysterious gnome webkit dependency, panel clock missing
by Matthew Monaco 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

When starting gnome here is a delay before the panel shows up, and then the clock is missing. From .xsession-errors: ** (nautilus:3085): WARNING **: libwebkit-1.0.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Installing libwebkit makes this problem go away: The panel loads instantly, with the clock, no error message I'm runnning off [testing]. I've seen this on a non-[testing] computer though.

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[arch-general] Making pacman ignore specific packages in a repo?
by Magnus Therning 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Is it possible to configure pacman to completely ignore a set of packages from a specific repository? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

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[arch-general] bluez and udev
by Seblu 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Hello, It was a few things I could not explain with bluez and udev. When my system start killswitch off and i toggle killswitch after, bluetoothd is auto started. When my system starts with killswitch on, bluetoothd is not started. (a bit confusing) After adding hooks in rc, bluetoothd refuse to start at boot because it needs dbus! If I searched on google before trying to debug I saved a few hours: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=112161 So, this situation is a bit confusing, so why do not remove /lib/udev/rules.d/97-bluetooth.rules? >From my test bluetoothd, doesn't kill itself when it's run by /etc/rc.d/bluetooth. Regards, -- Sébastien Luttringer www.seblu.net

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[arch-general] wicd splitted in 'wicd' and 'wicd-gtk'
by Daniel Isenmann 20 Mar '11

20 Mar '11

Hi, like requested as a feature request (FS#22550) and as a solution to one bug (FS#22423), I have splitted the wicd package into two seperated packages. From now on there is wicd: All stuff you need to run the wicd daemon and the wicd-cli and wicd-curses interfaces wicd-gtk: All stuff you need to run the GTK interface of wicd and the autostart file for the client to appear in the systray. So if you want the GTK interface back you have to install wicd-gtk manually after you have updated the wicd package. Forum thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=905851 - Daniel

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Re: [arch-general] epoch support in devtools (was: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pacman 3.5.0-1)
by Florian Pritz 20 Mar '11

20 Mar '11

On 16.03.2011 19:46, Dan McGee wrote: > Multiple signoffs per architecture would be great, as well as any > observations dealing with the upgrade process. Release notes: > http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/tree/NEWS devtools doesn't yet support epoch and it looks like rsync and scp don't support colons in filenames. They use colons to indicate remote machines. -- Florian Pritz -- {flo,bluewind}(a)server-speed.net

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[arch-general] Solution for bug 22690 ?!
by Frederic Bezies 20 Mar '11

20 Mar '11

Hello. I looked at 2.6.37-1 config changelog comparing it with 2.6.36-2 (or 3) one, and find this option was added. CONFIG_USB_ENESTORAGE=m I'm trying to build a kernel without it. Could be the answer for my problem ?! -- Frederic Bezies - fredbezies(a)gmail.com Weblog : http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/

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[arch-general] Introducing Salt
by Thomas S Hatch 20 Mar '11

20 Mar '11

If you are familiar with a project spearheaded by Red Hat called Func, Salt is very similar. On Thursday I released my first release of the Salt remote execution manager, Salt is a tool to allow an admin to execute remote commands on sets of systems over the network in an extremely fast and efficient way. I have a blog post explaining it in better detail here: http://red45.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/salt-0-6-0-released/ Packages are in the AUR! - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47512 Tell me what you think! It is of course open source, Apache licence, and I am open to collaboration! -Thomas S Hatch

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[arch-general] [PATCH] depmod: do not update module dependencies on boot
by Tom Gundersen 19 Mar '11

19 Mar '11

Hi guys, I'm looking through initscripts to make sure systemd is compatible. In doing so I think I ran across the following possible simplification of rc.sysinit. Comments? I'd be especially interested in hearing about usecases where the attached patch would lead to regressions. ----- Running depmod on boot should not be necessary as the packages installing modules should be responsible for updating the dependencies themselves (and they do, at least the packages I looked through). Furthermore, as modules can be loaded very early in boot (by e.g. udev), but depmod can only be called after root is mounted rw, we can not rely on depmod fixing broken module dependencies. Signed-off-by: Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> --- rc.sysinit | 2 -- 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/rc.sysinit b/rc.sysinit index 1dfae33..dfb0050 100755 --- a/rc.sysinit +++ b/rc.sysinit @@ -351,8 +351,6 @@ if [[ $NISDOMAINNAME ]]; then status "Setting NIS Domain Name: $NISDOMAINNAME" /bin/nisdomainname "$NISDOMAINNAME" fi -status "Updating Module Dependencies" /sbin/depmod -A - # Flush old locale settings : >| /etc/profile.d/locale.sh /bin/chmod 755 /etc/profile.d/locale.sh -- 1.7.4.1

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[arch-general] Where is the boot log?
by Madhurya Kakati 19 Mar '11

19 Mar '11

Hi, I am facing some problems with alsa. During booting it shows some errors. But I don't know how to copy those and paste them here. Can someone please tell me where can I find the log file? Thanks.

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[arch-general] Pacman db files and permissions.
by Peter Lewis 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

Hi, It seems to me that something has changed regarding the way pacman handles permissions of its files since 3.5. I updated to pacman 3.5 yesterday, and today tried to do a pacman -Ss <foo> as my normal user. I got some "error: could not open file" errors and it bailed. Now, I have my umask set as 077, but this didn't seem to affect the way pacman worked before: % ls -l /var/lib/pacman/sync/core/pacman-3.4.3-1/desc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 370 Mar 17 19:53 /var/lib/pacman/sync/core/pacman-3.4.3-1/desc % ls -l /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db -rw------- 1 root root 38K Mar 18 05:25 /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db Did pacman used to set the permissions on things it had downloaded, and this hasn't been added to the .db file handling code? Or is this supposed to happen? Thanks, Pete.

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Re: [arch-general] Web sites down?
by Cédric Girard 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

Le 18 mars 2011 18:38, "C Anthony Risinger" <anthony(a)extof.me> a écrit : > > 2011/3/18 Cédric Girard <girard.cedric(a)gmail.com>: > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM, C Anthony Risinger <anthony(a)extof.me >wrote: > > > >> the other day i had to make a small change to our mail server, and it > >> was was down for probably 15 seconds ... but nowadays people have > >> fancy phones that check in every 5 minutes multiplied by hundreds of > >> clients ... > > > > Well, I was actually submitting a comment to a bug when the site went down. > > This is why I noticed it and decided to ask on the ML if it was really down > > or if it was my corporate network that had again some trouble. > > no worries ... > > > I understand I should have waited more before reacting and did apologize for > > that. What else do you want? > > ? uhm, nothing? i could care less whether you reported it or not ... > was only adding a humorous experience to it. but hey, i'm a developer > not a comedian, i don't claim to ever succeed at the task. > > > IMHO this thread should just have been left dead after my second mail as > > useless thread usually are. No need to add extra noise to it. > > whoa there big buy, it was nothing personal :-) nor was it directed at > or intended to badger you to any degree. all is well. > > IMHO it's friday, and the end of a @!#@!# of a week ... hooray! > > C Anthony Sorry about all this. My answer wasn't specifically directed at you. Whatever, as you say, end of the week, of a long day, after saint patrick yesterday... Please accept my apologies for some over reaction on my part. -- Cedric Girard

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[arch-general] Web sites down?
by Cédric Girard 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

Hi, I cannot access (timeout) any archlinux web site except AUR. Am I alone to have this problem? Regards, -- Cédric Girard

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[arch-general] unoffical package signing
by keenerd 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

So, I've decided to unofficially start signing my packages. We don't need pacman or namcap or support from other tools. Here is how it works. gpg --detach-sign foo.pkg.tar.xz scp foo.pkg.tar.xz.sig pkgbuild.com:~/public_html/sigs/ That is it. Mine are at http://pkgbuild.com/~kkeen/sigs/ Of course I only have one package to sign at the moment, but 0.02% coverage is better than none ;-) If you think this is a good idea, sign your packages too. (And share the link please.) -Kyle http://kmkeen.com

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[arch-general] Can't connect to WEP-protected network
by John Albright 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

Hello. I just installed Arch last weekend and have gotten KDE and NetworkManager installed. I'm able to connect to unprotected and WPA-protected wireless networks, but when I try to use a WEP-protected one, the NetworkManager applet keeps prompting for the password. I'm sure I'm putting the right password in. Other computers are able to connect to the network. I've only been able to try one WEP-protected network so far. I have no idea what else could be wrong. Has anyone else had this problem?

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[arch-general] [PATCH] [initscripts] drop custom support for persistent net/cd symlinks
by Tom Gundersen 17 Mar '11

17 Mar '11

Hi all, As of the next udev release, /dev/.udev has moved to /dev/.run/udev. So, since we have to update this anyway, I thought this was a good opportunity to review our persistent net/cd rules functionality. If I understand correctly, udev allready has support for creating persistent net/cd symlinks (that we disable by default), and no other distro does anything beyond that. Furthermore, the udev devs explicitly say that /dev/.udev should only be used by udev itself. It is therefore not clear to me why we need this at all. The attached patch removes it alltogether. Any comments? Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] MongoDB 1.8 released to [community]
by Thomas Dziedzic 17 Mar '11

17 Mar '11

Overall a pretty big release with lots of new goodies. Release notes: http://blog.mongodb.org/post/3903149313/mongodb-1-8-released Tested and it works for me, so I pushed it immediately. Please file any bugs you might encounter. Cheers!

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[arch-general] xz compression in kernel 2.6.38
by KESHAV P.R. 17 Mar '11

17 Mar '11

Hi all, Now that kernel 2.6.38 supports xz (lzma2, not lzma), how about using it as the default compression for the kernel and initramfs. mkinitcpio simply requires COMPRESSION="xz" to generate lzma2 compressed initramfs. But xz compressed kernel requires change in the config option and once module-init-toools supports xz compressed modules we can say good bye to gzip. Related commits :- For kernel and initramfs xz support - http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi… http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi… http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi… Squashfs xz support http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi… http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdi… I think this option should be added to mkinitcpio to make users aware of this option. Not sure of the reduction in kernel and initramfs size though (compared to gzip and lzma). Regards. Keshav PS: Seems like I am actually late in conveying this since 2.6.38 kernel is now in testing. But atleast from pkgrel 2 onwards?

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[arch-general] xorg-font-utils package reorganization
by Grigorios Bouzakis 17 Mar '11

17 Mar '11

Hi, the previous xorg-font-utils package included 2 utilities that are not available anymore. fonttosfnt and ttmkfdir2 can not be found as split packages but AFAIK they are not part of any other joint packages either. What happens to them? Will they be available in the future or they're dropped completely? Thanks Greg

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[arch-general] Still seeing "spam" in /var/log/everything.log with Issuing auto-REQUEST_SENSE
by Frederic Bezies 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

Hello. I'm using a fully up-to-date + testing archlinux. Since Linux 2.6.37, I've a lot of Issuing auto-REQUEST_SENSE spamming my /var/log/everything.log. Cf https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22690 I hoped that 2.6.38 fixed it, but not. My lsusb : [fred@fredo-arch ~]$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader Bus 002 Device 002: ID 062a:0201 Creative Labs Defender Office Keyboard (K7310) S Zodiak KM-9010 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:00cb Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 My kernel version : [fred@fredo-arch ~]$ pacman -Qi kernel26 Nom : kernel26 Version : 2.6.38-1 URL : http://www.kernel.org Licences : GPL2 Groupes : base Any idea or tip to stop this ? Because I'm kinda fed up with this :( And I cannot unplug Alcor hardware, it is part of my computer. -- Frederic Bezies - fredbezies(a)gmail.com Weblog : http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/

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[arch-general] Should package bug be sent here?
by 郑文辉 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

I have reported a bug report FS#23295[1] ,should I send an email in arch-general mailling list too? [1]:https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23295

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[arch-general] xorg group name messed up after latest xorg package update?? PKGBUILD depends=('xorg') triggering complete reinstall..
by David C. Rankin 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

Guys, After the latest xorg updates, PKGBUILD scripts that include depends=('xorg') are triggering complete reinstalls of all xorg packages. This didn't happen before. When trying to build trinity with the following depends= line: depends=('python2-sip' 'libical' 'libxslt' 'avahi' 'dbus-qt3' 'pam-krb5' 'hal' 'xorg' 'trinity-qt3' 'trinity-pyqt3' 'trinity-tqtinterface' 'trinity-arts' 'trinity-kdelibs' 'trinity-kdebase') I get: ==> Installing missing dependencies... warning: xf86-input-acecad-1.4.0-4 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-aiptek-1.3.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-evdev-2.6.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.0-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-mouse-1.7.0-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-synaptics-1.4.0-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-vmmouse-12.7.0-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-input-void-1.3.1-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-apm-1.2.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-ark-0.7.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-ast-0.91.10-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-ati-6.14.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-chips-1.2.4-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-cirrus-1.3.2-5 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-dummy-0.3.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-geode-2.11.12-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-glint-1.2.5-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-i128-1.3.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-i740-1.3.2-5 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-intel-2.14.0-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-mach64-6.8.2-5 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-mga-1.4.13-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-neomagic-1.2.5-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-nv-2.1.18-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-r128-6.8.1-5 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-rendition-4.2.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-s3-0.6.3-4 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-s3virge-1.10.4-4 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-savage-2.3.2-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-siliconmotion-1.7.5-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-sis-0.10.3-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-sisusb-0.9.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-tdfx-1.4.3-5 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-trident-1.3.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-tseng-1.2.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-v4l-0.2.0-7 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-vesa-2.3.0-4 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-vmware-11.0.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-voodoo-1.2.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-xgi-1.6.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xf86-video-xgixp-1.8.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-bdftopcf-1.0.3-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-docs-1.6-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-fonts-100dpi-1.0.1-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-fonts-75dpi-1.0.1-3 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-iceauth-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-luit-1.1.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-mkfontdir-1.0.6-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-mkfontscale-1.0.8-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-server-1.9.4.901-1 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-sessreg-1.0.6-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-setxkbmap-1.2.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-smproxy-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-x11perf-1.5.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xauth-1.0.5-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xbacklight-1.1.2-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xcmsdb-1.0.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xcursorgen-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xdpyinfo-1.2.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xdriinfo-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xev-1.1.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xgamma-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xhost-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xinput-1.5.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xkbcomp-1.2.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xkbevd-1.1.2-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xkbutils-1.0.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xkill-1.0.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xlsatoms-1.1.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xlsclients-1.1.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xmodmap-1.0.5-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xpr-1.0.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xprop-1.2.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xrandr-1.3.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xrdb-1.0.8-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xrefresh-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xset-1.2.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xsetroot-1.1.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xvinfo-1.1.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xwd-1.0.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xwininfo-1.1.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling warning: xorg-xwud-1.0.3-2 is up to date -- reinstalling resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (83): xf86-input-acecad-1.4.0-4 xf86-input-aiptek-1.3.1-2 xf86-input-evdev-2.6.0-2 <snip> Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 46.94 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] n -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.37.4-1
by Tobias Powalowski 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

Hi guys, - bump to latest version greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.33-1
by Tobias Powalowski 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

Latest LTS kernel is in testing, - added numa support on x86_64 config please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] xorg upgrade - error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
by David C. Rankin 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

Guys, Updating xorg resulted in pacman finding the following conflicts: (87/87) checking for file conflicts [#######################################] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) xorg-bdftopcf: /usr/bin/bdftopcf exists in filesystem xorg-bdftopcf: /usr/share/man/man1/bdftopcf.1.gz exists in filesystem xorg-mkfontscale: /usr/bin/mkfontscale exists in filesystem xorg-mkfontscale: /usr/share/man/man1/mkfontscale.1.gz exists in filesystem xorg-mkfontdir: /usr/bin/mkfontdir exists in filesystem xorg-mkfontdir: /usr/share/man/man1/mkfontdir.1.gz exists in filesystem Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. --force works fine. Just thought I'd let the list know in case the packages need tweaking. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet
by Thomas S Hatch 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Nigel Kersten <nigel(a)puppetlabs.com> wrote: > Just noting that while I'm traveling and at a course, and thus not > answering all my email quickly, I'm reading this thread keenly, and > we're happy to help implement whatever is the most sane thing to do on > Arch. > > Forcing systemd as a requirement doesn't feel like the right approach > at this stage. > > > Nigel Kersten > Puppet Labs > Thanks Nigel! I am excited to see more complete support for Arch in puppet, I hope I can help as much as possible to make it a reality sooner than later! Working with Puppet Labs has been nothing short of a pleasure. -Thomas S Hatch

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[arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet
by Thomas S Hatch 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

I am posting this to venture an opinion, and see if anyone has any ideas on how best to handle this situation. I am working with the puppet developers to help improve Arch Linux support in puppet (for those of you unfamiliar with puppet, it is an amazingly crucial component in datacenter management - http://www.puppetlabs.com) Puppet can automate the starting and stopping of systems services as well as managing if they are set to start on boot. In most Linux distributions flagging a system service to start on boot is done with an application like chkconfig and the order in which the system services start up is pre determined by the distribution. Arch Linux uses a much simpler approach to system services, the DAEMONS array in the rc.conf. The problem faced with an automation system in this scope is that the boot order of services is not predetermined. Right now the best idea we have been able to come up with is to have puppet simply append the named services to the end of the DAEMONS array in the rc.conf, but I wanted to ask the community if anyone had any alternative ideas on how this could be done. The ticket containing the discussion on the matter can be found here: https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/6697 Thank you for your ideas! -Thomas S Hatch -Arch Linux Trusted User

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[arch-general] firefox 4 in staging?
by Ray Kohler 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

I noticed that firefox 4.0rc1 and xulrunner 2.0rc1 went into [staging] yesterday. Does that mean we can expect to get these upgrades before Mozilla moves them out of release candidate status? What's up with these packages?

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[arch-general] Dropping Oracle OpenOffice
by Andreas Radke 14 Mar '11

14 Mar '11

LibreOffice has recently proved to be a solid replacement for Oracle OpenOffice. I'm about to drop all Oracle OOo packages from our repos. First my time is limited. I've asked so many times for help in the Office packaging area and nobody stepped in. Then there's the poor distribution support Oracle spends on the distributions. They almost do not care about custom distribution builds and their interest. They break the build against system libs every now and then and it takes ages to contact the relevant devs to fix their bugs. Development is only driven by the profit interests of Oracle... You can put in here all the arguments the Document foundation has given at its birth. So don't expect any efforts to fix bugs in Oracle packages anymore. As soon as they will break due to a .so name bump or something like this I'll remove all the packages from our repos if nobody else is willing to maintain them. Any objections to add "replaces=('openoffice-base') " to the next LibO pkg? -Andy

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[arch-general] OpenERP
by Nicolás Adamo 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Hi there! Sadly the wiki page for OpenERP [0] is uncomplete. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Open_ERP Question: Did anyone succeed installing it? Could reproduce the necessary steps? OpenERP's documentation have instructions for Debian, but things like /etc/init.d directory, which is rc.d in Arch make this instructions useless. Regards, Nicolás

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.37.3-1
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Hi guys, - bump to latest version greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Apcupsd configs
by Joker-jar 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

Hello! Today i was surprised to find my 'onbattery' and 'offbattery' configs are overwritten... Files changeme, commfailure, commok, offbattery and onbattery should be placed in 'backup' array

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[arch-general] Pacman FInnish translation help wanted
by Jesse Juhani Jaara 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

So in short I would like someone to do little spell checking and other checking on the Finnish translation I'm working on. A bigger post I posted on archlinux.fi forums earlier (in Finnish ) ________________________________________________________________________ Eli olen siis kääntänyt pacmanin 70% prosenttisesti ja aion saada sen kokonaan käännetyksi sunnuntai 13.3 mennessä, jotta se saataisiin sisällytettyä pacmanin uuteen 3.5 julkaisuun joka tapahtunee seuravaalla viikolla. Olen tähän nyt kääntänyt pacmanista 32/64bittiset versiot suomennoksella varustettuna valmiiksi että muut voisivat siitä kaikenmailman virheitä sekä vaikeaselkoisuksia etsiä, jotta käännös olisi mahdollisimman laadukas jo ensimmäiseesä julkaisussaan. Käännös ei tosiaan ole vielä 100%. Näin äkkiseltään kun itse testasin niin ohjeviestien tasaus ei ole aivan kohdallaan. Raaka linkki itse käännöstiedostoon. Tästä on hyvä etsiä kirjoitus ja yhdysana virheitä: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/arc … /download/ Tässä on linkki tiedostoihin jotka voi käsin kopioda koneellee ilman että tarvitsee päivittää itse pacmania. Kopoi .mo tiedostot kansioon /usr/share/local/fi/LC_MESSAGES/: http://huulivoide.pp.fi/Arch/pacman/käännökset.tar.xz Ota huomioon että tämä on git versio pacmanista, jota ei ole vielä testattu suuremmin joten sen käyttö voi aiheutaa vahinkoja koneelle, joten on suositeltavaa asentaa se virtuaali koneeseen tai chroottiin tai ottaa varmuuskopia enne käyttämistä. Todennäköisesti suurempia vahinkoja ei pitäsisi sattua. Mutta en mene lupaamaan pacman-i686-git: http://huulivoide.pp.fi/Arch/pacman/pac … pkg.tar.xz pacman-x86_64-git: http://huulivoide.pp.fi/Arch/pacman/pac … pkg.tar.xz Korjaukset ja ehdotukset miuluiten s-posti ositteeseen: jesse.jaara(a)gmail.com ________________________________________________________________________

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[arch-general] Sharing data between Windows 7 and Archlinux
by Madhurya Kakati 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

Hi all, Got hold of a cheap laptop. I want to use it as my download rig. It will be on most of the time downloading torrents. The laptop actually came with Windows XP installed. I setup the laptop ip as 192.168.1.5 and my desktop (running Windows 7) ip as 192.168.1.4. After doing that I connected both of them using a lan wire. I then enable sharing on both of them and I could transfer files directly from one computer to the other at speeds of upto 75MBps. I want to know how to do the same with archlinux or Windows 7 running on my desktop and archlinux running on the desktop. Please tell me how to do that. I want to be able to tranfer downloaded content directly from the laptop to the desktop using a lan cable. Thanks.

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[arch-general] GSoC 2011 - Join forces
by Markus M. May 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

Hello, there seem to be some interest in the participation of Arch Linux on GSoC 2011. The ArchServer community has decided to participate, but since we are a small and quite new project, we do not think to get accepted. So why not join forces in this effort. I guess we do have similar goals (e.g. every Arch Linux based distro will benefit from the extension of pacman). ArchServer can bring the application to the plate, which will need to get adapted to the new structure obviously (http://wiki.archserver.org/index.php/GSoC2011_Application) I envision some umbrella project for Arch Linux, ArchServer and probably even other Arch Linux based distros. Of course we do have a very tough timeframe to get this up. What do you think? R, Markus

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Re: [arch-general] [translation] Let's start the work for 3.5.0 release
by Dan McGee 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We're using transifex this time around, and going cold turkey, so I > won't even look at translations submitted here. > > http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/tree/doc/translation-help.txt > > The transifex help and the tx client will likely be your friend here. > `tx pull` and `tx push -t -l en_GB` were two commands I used to try > this whole system out. As I mentioned earlier, you will need > transifex-client-hg (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45787) > from the AUR. > > Questions- send them to the list. Translations- please do not. OK- we have most of them in, I'm going to set a deadline of this Sunday (March 13) so we can release early next week. Here is the status: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/archlinux-pacman/r/3-5-0/ -Dan

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[arch-general] Build in clean chroot
by Baho Utot 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

I have a chroot devel environment like this /home+build/ / root/ - srch chroot build made with mkarchroot / /trinity.source - a symlink ie ln -s ../trinity.source / copy - made by makechrootpkg / pkgbuild - where the pkgbuild live / trinity.source - a subversion repo checkout of source code I then fetch the subversion rev level to use as the pkgver number like this _source=trinity.source _module=kdepim cd ${_source}/${_module} pkgver=$(svnversion) This gives me an error /build/PKGBUILD: line 25: cd: /trinity.source/kdepim: Too many levels of symbolic links I want to symlink the svn repo to inside the chroot so when makechrootpkg -c -r <chrootdir> creates the clean copy it doesn't have to copy the entire svn source code to the clean copy, as it is almost 2G is size. Anyone know of a way to get around this?

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[arch-general] HTTP Custom Mirror on Install
by Thomas Misilo 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Good Evening, I was trying to use a custom mirror during an install today, it is only a HTTP server currently. Is this a problem, does it need to be ftp? As the mirror does work with pacman after install. Thanks! Tom

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[arch-general] MPD httpd vorbis buggy?
by Karol Babioch 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Hi, I've set up MPD with an additional http stream. Default for the encoding engine seems to be "vorbis". However it seems to be extreme buggy, at least for me. I've tried it as stand alone output, as well as in combination with pulse. It crashed quite irregularly during the normal playback, but it took nether longer than 1 minute. At least changing the song crashed it every time. I couldn't reconnect to the stream, but it was down. Only option was to restart mpd daemon itself. The log file said something like "error initializing vorbis encoder" After some fiddling with the configuration I changed the encoder to lame, which works great so far, even changing the song works ;). Before reporting any kind of bug, I wanted to ask you, whether someone has made the same experience? Is it something individual for me? Is something with Arch wrong? Or is it really an upstream issue? Best regards, Karol Babioch

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[arch-general] Wiki license?
by Nicolás Reynolds 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Hi, I was checking the wiki license, that says GNU FDL 1.2, but links to GNU FDL 1.3, so... which one should I pick? :) -- Salud! Nicolás Reynolds, xmpp:fauno@kiwwwi.com.ar omb:http://identi.ca/fauno blog:http://selfdandi.com.ar/ gnu/linux user #455044 OTR: C0CB1F0F 01DB5E18 2D634C2A A4626858 E7C7C3A2 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org

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[arch-general] Several advices about Perl Package Packaging Standards
by 郑文辉 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Hey,guys I have several thoughts about perl packages packing standards. First,It seems to me that renaming spamassassin to perl-mail-spamassassin which following the cpan perl packages naming standard is better.May be we can add a feature to PKGBULD that allowing package have several alias.Ex,perl-mail-spamassassin should be the official name and spamassassin could be the common name or aliase.Both official name and standard name can be installed or qureied using pacman,but official name mostly used in programing and official posts. Second,the URL variable of perl package's PKGBUILD should be restriced to cpan permanent urls (like:http://search.cpan.org/dist/*) even if the project has its own home page,and the cpan will link to the project's real homepage if exits. What do you think?

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[arch-general] rotc-ethernet package in aur
by kurrata 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

I made a update for package rotc-ethernet in aur and submited it. When i do makepkg locally it works but when i try to install it thought yaourt i get this error: ==================================== [martins@sazan rotc-ethernet]$yaourt -S rotc-ethernet ==> Installing from a package list Password: error: './rotc.bin': could not find repository for target ==> Downloading cd PKGBUILD from AUR... x LICENSE x PKGBUILD First Submitted: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:59:30 +0000 cd 5.3-3 : C platform-independent graphics library. ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! ) ==> Edit PKGBUILD ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort) ==> ------------------------------------ ==> ^C [martins@sazan rotc-ethernet]$ [martins@sazan rotc-ethernet]$^C ==================================== I am doing something wrong or it is yaourts fault? AUR link: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29456

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] GSoC 2011
by Andres Perera 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

lol... gsoc students aren't going to get sponsored for making packages you'd have to be in a distro that does their own projects like fedora it'd be like slackware asking for gsoc 2011/2/25 Ángel Velásquez <angvp(a)archlinux.org>: > Hi, > > I'm just wondering why we didn't participate in GSoC, many open source > projects got improved for this kind of programs. > > Just wondering areas in which we can receive and mentor students with > the permission of the projects owner I will do a list of possible > areas of work: > > * Pacman (Adding signed packages) > * AIF and archiso integration > * Namcap > * Netcfg > * <insert project here> > > Please don't kill me if the idea is wrong, It just came to my mind that idea. > > Cheers > > -- > Angel Velásquez > angvp @ irc.freenode.net > Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User > Linux Counter: #359909 > http://www.angvp.com >

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[arch-general] Tool to build from source bundle?
by Magnus Therning 07 Mar '11

07 Mar '11

Is there a standard tool that takes a source bundle, as produced by `makepkg --source`, and builds from that? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Perl is another example of filling a tiny, short-term need, and then being a real problem in the longer term. -- Alan Kay

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[arch-general] protect Template:Article summary link 1x ?
by David C. Rankin 06 Mar '11

06 Mar '11

Guys, I created a template for the Trinity wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Template:Article_summary_link_1x Is there a way that somebody can "protect" it like the other Article summary templates are? For those that use the Template:Article_summary_link feature, this version reduces the padding to allow a condensed link list in the summary. See e.g 'PKGBUILD Downloads' heading in the summary: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Gaussum package is not updated - can any administrator leave it orphan?
by Hector Martinez-Seara 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

Hi all, the Gaussum package has not been updated for a long time. Now in its current state is not usable. I sent a email to the maintainer to try to address the situation or at least free the package. I didn't get any answer: ####### Archlinux package gausssum is out of date Hector Martinez-Seara to fmying show details 28 Feb (5 days ago) Dear fmying, the package gausssum in archlinux AUR has been out of date for a long time. Please proceed to its update. In the case you can't or you are not interested please proceed to disown the package it so I can update it. You can do that from the archlinux.org webpage in AUR section. once you have logging. If you cannot disown the package please let me know and I will send an email to the administrator so they can do it. Hector ######### Can any administrator leave this package orphan so I can became its maintainer and update it. Hector -- Hector Martínez-Seara Monné mail: hseara(a)gmail.com Tel: +34656271145 Tel: +358442709253

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[arch-general] GHC 7.0.2 and Haskell packages in [testing] and [community-testing]
by Rémy Oudompheng 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

Hello, GHC has been updated to 7.0.2 in the [testing] and [community-testing] repositories. As with all GHC upgrades, you may have to cleanup globally registered packages if they did not upgrade properly, as well as your local Haskell packages. The usual parts of Haskell Platform (everything except OpenGL) are also in [testing]. Haskell Platform has been updated to version 2011.2. Regards, Rémy.

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[arch-general] Missing dependency perl-convert-binhex of perl-mime-tools
by 郑文辉 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

The package perl-mime-tools in [Extra] was required by the amavisd-new.While starting amavisd,the error below has occured. > fetch_modules: error loading optional module MIME/Decoder/BinHex.pm: > Can't locate Convert/BinHex.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1 /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/core_perl /usr/share/perl5/core_perl /usr/lib/perl5/current/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/current /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/current/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/current) at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MIME/Decoder/BinHex.pm line 43. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MIME/Decoder/BinHex.pm line 43. > Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 197. And then,i check the code of /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MIME/Decoder/BinHex.pm on line 43,the following code indicate that perl module Convert BinHex is needed. > use Convert::BinHex; I also checked the same debian package in http://packages.debian.org/en/sid/libmime-tools-perl,and the perl-convert-binhex was absolutely the dependency. Now,the perl-convert-binhex is in AUR,so please fix the PKGBUILD of perl-mime-tools and move perl-convert-binhex into offical repo. I have fill out a bug about this in FS#23144,hope someone can solve this problem.

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Re: [arch-general] How to stop everything.log spamming ?
by Frederic Bezies 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

> On 5 March 2011 06:15, fredbezies <fredbezies at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello. >> >> I'm facing bug 22690 and /var/log/everything.log get spammed every 5 >> seconds. >> >> Any tricks to stop this spam ? Or do I have to wait to see it get fixed ? >> >> Thanks for your info and tips. >> >> Have a good day. >> >> -- >> Frederic Bezies >> fredbezies at gmail.com > > Have you tried changing the conf of syslog-ng? The conf declares > sources, files and just bind them together. Should be easy to do what > you are looking for. > > -- > Guillaume As a workaround : I disabled everything.log file writing. At least, until bug 22690 is fixed, it won't spam anymore everything.log. A dirty workaround, but a workaround at least ! -- Frederic Bezies - fredbezies(a)gmail.com Weblog : http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/

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[arch-general] How to stop everything.log spamming ?
by fredbezies 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

Hello. I'm facing bug 22690 and /var/log/everything.log get spammed every 5 seconds. Any tricks to stop this spam ? Or do I have to wait to see it get fixed ? Thanks for your info and tips. Have a good day. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] I'd like to take over the maintaince of perl-convert-tnef
by 郑文辉 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

I'd like to take over the maintaince of perl-convert-tnef,as the current maintainer seems no longer focusing on it,so i hope this aur package can be orphaned .

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[arch-general] wiki - Add a border to Template:Article summary start ?
by David C. Rankin 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

Guys, I was working with Template:Article summary start code for the wiki trying to come up with a way to further define it on the page so you don't end up with it appearing to float transparently over the wiki content toward the bottom of the summary -- especially when there is a line of code that intersects it. Where you have a line of code that crosses the summary, the dashed border for the code just seems to disappear under the background of the summary. I tried color and different combinations of border and think I have hit on something I like better. I've added a border and adjusted the padding slightly. Since changing the summary template changes the look of all pages, I thought I would just pass along the code for Template:Article summary start for you guys to consider rather than changing it on the wiki. <noinclude>{{Template}} '''See [[Writing Article Overviews]] for usage instructions.'''</noinclude><includeonly>{| style="margin-left: 8px; padding: 3px 5px 3px 5px; border: 3px ridge #AFB1B5; border-spacing: 0px 4px; float: right; clear: right; width: 25%" cellpadding="0" |- style="text-align: center" ! style="background: #333; color: white; padding: 3px" | '''{{{1|Summary}}}'''</includeonly> I have a preview on my mediawiki that I setup as a sandbox to keep from destroying the Archwiki with my edits... You can take a look at the proposed border and padding here: http://www.3111skyline.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page If the consensus is you like it, then I can update the template. If you don't - we'll just nix the idea. Nothing ventured nothing gained... Even if you don't like the border, then consider the padding change: padding: 3px 5px 3px 5px; It adds just a bit of slenderness to the content beneath the headings. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts - 2.6.32.31-1
by Andreas Radke 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Minor upstream update fixing the build breaker in .30 the proper way. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/5576 Please signoff. -Andy

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[arch-general] Arch Translation Day, vol 2
by Dan Vrátil 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hi, the Arch Translation Day was mentioned last month on arch-events ml [1], but really, who reads it :) And because last month not many people participated (because of exam period) we decided to give it another shot when more people might have time. Here in Czech republic we have quite a huge and strong community of Arch users and there is also considerable amount of people who don't speak English well enough to fully understand some articles. Thefore we decided to do Arch Translation Day and translate the most important articles to Czech. Of course, there's no need to make an event in order to create new translations and improve wiki, but massive action will probably attract more people and the result will be better. And when this action can help to improve Czech articles on wiki, why couldn't we call it for another languages too, huh? :) The idea is quite simple: pick an wiki page in whatever language you speak and translate it to your mother language (or any other language you speak too), primary focusing on pages about important issues (beginner's guide, official installation guide, articles about DEs, graphic drivers etc). The event will happen this weekend (5th-6th), and we hope that the result will be the Best Distribution Wiki(tm). Happy translating :)) PS: Pierre mentioned inter-wiki setup, but first someone would have to do it (and I belive only devs can?). When this is set up, it's no problem to migrate the articles to their respective wikis. Dan [1] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-events/2011-January/000358.html

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[arch-general] 2010.05 iso images problem?
by didier gaumet 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hi guys, I have downloaded a 2010.05 x86_64 core iso image from http://mir.archlinux.fr/iso/ and verified its sha1sum. After installation, I end up with a 2.6.37 kernel (out in 2011.01) with no modules (2.6.27 and 2.6.33 modules are available). http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/iso/ has the same sha1sum for this iso. Is there not a problem with these images? Right now I am updating this Archlinux installation from a Debian chroot, so it is not a blocking problem, but out of curiosity, I would like to know. Thanks, Didier.

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[arch-general] knotify4 is eating 90%+ of the CPU in gnome - can it be reniced or something?
by David C. Rankin 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Guys, Running Gnome, knotify 4 is killing my system. From top, it is taking over 90% of the cpu: 13123 david 20 0 155m 40m 17m S 91 1.3 60:06.32 knotify4 Can this 'feature' be turned off when I'm in a desktop other than kde4? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] audio skipping frequently with vlc
by Matthew Monaco 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

I recently noticed then when playing DVDs and other audio files through VLC that the audio skips frequently. It doesn't get out of sync, just goes mute for a split second. I tried the past few versions of VLC but it still happens, so I guess it's one of the dependencies, but I'm not sure which. Has anyone noticed/fixed this?

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[arch-general] New repository locations for Trinity svn
by David C. Rankin 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

All, Just an update on the repo locations for Trinity svn. Kaiting has provided space outside of /home for the packages. The new urls are: http://www.kiwilight.com/trinity/i686/ http://www.kiwilight.com/trinity/x86_64/ Please update your pacman.conf if you have added the repositories. Let me know if you have any problems with the new locations. Thanks. I have updated the locations on the wiki. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts - 2.6.32.30-1
by Andreas Radke 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Upstream update with security fixes. Breaks build on x86_64. I had to revert one single patch for x86_64. more about the breaker: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1107677 Please give signoffs quickly. -Andy

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[arch-general] qemu-kvm vs. qemu upstream
by C Anthony Risinger 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > If this is virtualbox specific, I'd try qemu-kvm. hey, i was just trying to get a concrete answer about this the other day, so maybe you can clarify because i keep reading conflicting and/or outdated information. AFAICS, qemu-kvm is still _different_ from upstream kvm support in qemu, correct? i tried rebuilding qemu several times, ensuring i had all the options i wanted (SPICE/kvm/etc) and i was getting absolutely <expletive deleted> performance -- switch to qemu-kvm and she's blazing again, yet many places seem to suggest they are one and the same. i see they definitely have different sources, but would you/anyone care to elaborate on the relationship? C Anthony

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[arch-general] Contributing to netcfg
by Ng Oon-Ee 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hi all, I'm not a coder, but I've written up .service files (for systemd) for netcfg, specifically for net-auto-wired and net-auto-wireless. I have not done the same for net-profiles and net-rename. I was thinking to submit those two files upstream to netcfg development, but I can't seem to find the appropriate place. Should I just make a bug report? For clarification, having these .service files just enables netcfg to be run natively on a systemd system, does not affect the system otherwise (they'd never be called).

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] ncurses-5.8-1
by Loui Chang 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

On Sun 27 Feb 2011 12:01 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > On 27/02/11 10:40, Allan McRae wrote: > >> > >> Major upstream update. > >> > >> Test well. There is no soname bump, but experience tells me that some > >> rebuilds will probably be required to fix minor issues. > >> > > > > I have rebuilt community/stfl to fix a crash (used by newsbeuter). > > > > I will start a TODO list to keep track of packages that require moved with > > ncurses. If you do any rebuilds, please add the package to the list. > > $ tig > tig: Failed to create status window > > I added it to the list (but didn't rebuild it). Rebuild won't do it. tig wants to create zero sized windows which newwin() doesn't allow anymore. We could patch it with some arbitrary size which kind of works, but I emailed the developer to ask how he would deal with it.

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 77, Issue 2
by fredbezies 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

> Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:30:45 +0700 > From: Emmanuel Benisty <benisty.e(a)gmail.com> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Bug 22828 makes me "kill" my archlinux > installation > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin1r2J7wMiP0mn7YNKT7FMb9vit=e4sRKYO0LB5(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM, fredbezies <fredbezies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I'm kinda unlucky. I reported bug 22828, having lot of problem with >> gdm which cannot be "killed" at shutdown time. >> >> This morning, before going to work, I faced again this bug. >> >> I had to switch to a tty (using ctrl + alt +F2). >> >> I typed halt to stop my computer, but it won't shutdown properly. >> >> I have to shutdown on my computer, using power button. >> >> When I wanted to boot it again, it is stopped at the start of boot process. >> >> I only get "linux:(none)" prompt and nothing more. >> >> Any idea to avoid a full reinstall ? > > are you sure it's the same issue? if you're using [testing], you most > likely got hit by the bash/readline bug. chroot into your install (see > chroot in archwiki) and downgrade those packages (bash-4.2.005 and > readline-6.2.001) to their former version. > Indeed. It was this broken version. I updated at a bad time. Anyway, downgrading works. Too bad this broken update happened just before I have to go to work :( -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] bash-4.2.005 and readline-6.2.001
by Evangelos Foutras 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Another -1. I would recommand everyone to downgrade to the previous > versions before rebooting or halting their systems. I had to boot from > a live CD in order to downgrade them. > > When shutting down, the following was printed: > > INIT: Switching to runlevel: 6 > INIT: Sending process the TERM signal > INIT: no more process left in this runlevel. > > And then it just hangs. > > On bootup, i got a message about rc.sysinit getting a segfault in > bash. Then some errors about not finding the qingy libraries (I use > qingy as login manager) probably related to the mount issue that Angel > mentionned. Then it hangs. `unset TZ' is the simplest test case that causes a segmentation fault on my system. The culprit appears to be the chkexport function introduced in patch bash42-005 [1]. From the backtrace [2], I gather it should probably check that find_variable returns a non-NULL value. Changing the line after the find_variable call to read "if (v && exported_p (v))" fixes the issue for me. I've sent a bug report to bug-bash(a)gnu.org using the neat bashbug command. :p [1] http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-4.2-patches/bash42-005 [2] http://ompldr.org/vN20yYg

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[arch-general] kde4 loads kde3 parts -- is this a packaging issue?
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Guys, I need some help figuring out where to start in trying to keep kde4 from loading most of kde3 when kde4 is launched from the kdm chooser. A picture is worth 1000 words: [109k] (800x600) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/ArchLinux_kde3+kde4.800.jpg (full res 264k 1280x800) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/ArchLinux_kde3+kde4.jpg In the screenshot, kde (kde4) was launched from the kde4 kdm. The background is the kde4 background. Both the kde3 kicker and kde4 plasma-panel loaded (and are both fully operational) at the bottom of the screen. Launching apps or system settings the panels, properly loads the corresponding kde3/kde4 app. The plasma-desktop has loaded and the kde4 "Desktop Folder is present". The kde4 window decorations are present, but if you rt-click on the desktop, you get the kdemod context menus and all kdemod apps are in the default Domino style. What I'm trying to do is narrow down why this happens on Arch and so we can fix it. I'm guessing this probably happens when kde4-kdelibs or kde4-kdebase gets built and installed, but that is just a guess. This seems to be a packaging issue because it doesn't happen with other distros that have both kde4 and kde3 installed together. It doesn't happen in reverse either with kdemod3 based on Trinity. Loading the updated kdemod3 doesn't load the kde4 panel, but kde4 does load the kde3 panel. Anybody familiar with this issue on Arch and how it might be solved? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Bug 22828 makes me "kill" my archlinux installation
by fredbezies 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hello. I'm kinda unlucky. I reported bug 22828, having lot of problem with gdm which cannot be "killed" at shutdown time. This morning, before going to work, I faced again this bug. I had to switch to a tty (using ctrl + alt +F2). I typed halt to stop my computer, but it won't shutdown properly. I have to shutdown on my computer, using power button. When I wanted to boot it again, it is stopped at the start of boot process. I only get "linux:(none)" prompt and nothing more. Any idea to avoid a full reinstall ? Thanks a lot. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Doubt about signed packages.
by Keerthan jai.c 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Why can't we do this? 1) Keep hashes of {core,extra,community,multilib}.db in plaintext in keys.archlinux.org or something 2) while syncing pacman compares the hashes of the downloaded dbs from the main server ensuring that the packages are not tampered! -- have a nice day -jck

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] bash-4.2.005 and readline-6.2.001
by Emmanuel Benisty 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

2011/3/1 Ángel Velásquez <angvp(a)archlinux.org>: > 2011/2/28 Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org>: >> Upstream patchlevel bumps. There were the (fairly minor) bug fixes I was >> waiting for beofre moving bash-4.2 and readline-6.2 to [core]. >> >> Signoff both, >> Allan >> > > -1 > > Broke my system > > I had to remount everything and downgrade manually (partitions wasn't > mounting) and initscripts got broken same here.

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[arch-general] GSoC 2011
by William Holbrook 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hello all! I'm William Holbrook, a sophomore at Morehead State University (located in the eastern part of Kentucky, United States). I'm planning on applying to GSoC this year, and I think it'd be awesome to see Arch on the list of mentoring organizations. I read a few days back on the arch-dev-public mailing list about the possibility of Arch applying as a mentoring organization. From what I can gather, Arch hasn't participated in previous GSoC's. I've looked at some of the project ideas thrown around in arch-dev-public for this year's GSoC. Package signing appears to be desired by some members of the community, and it would make things more secure (gotta love trusting your favorite mirror). It seems to have been worked on quite a bit in this past month by Denis Falqueto on the pacman-dev mailing list (possibly some others; difficulties reading plaintext mailing lists). An interesting project! I've always thought about what would be a good way to become a part of the FOSS scene, and I think that GSoC will help me do just that. I hope to see Arch on the list of organizations when it comes time for students to begin applying! -- William Holbrook II Mathematics Major Computer Science Major Morehead State University

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [PATCH 1/3] Use format strings when printing errors
by cantabile 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Le 27/02/2011 19:25, Dan McGee a écrit : > - print("Error: " + package + " is empty or is not a valid package") > + print("Error: %s is empty or is not a valid package" % package) That method of string formatting is deprecated in python 3. ;) http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/library/stdtypes.html#old-string-forma… http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/library/string.html#string-formatting -- cantabile "Jayne is a girl's name." -- River

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[arch-general] Unannounced syslog config move
by Sebastian Köhler 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Hi, who had the glorious idea to move the syslog-ng.conf from /etc/ to /etc/syslog-ng/ without telling anyone? I lost about 1 weeks of log entries because of this. I understand why it was moved but what happenend to announcing such changes? I think a message in post_upgrade() is not to much to ask for. Sebastian -- The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.

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[arch-general] mkinitcpio compression
by Dimitrios Apostolou 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Hello list, I'm using arch on an old laptop with only 128MB RAM. I had problems compressing the initcpio image with lzma, it always failed allocating memory. The following one-line patch allowed me to set my own compression level in mkinitcpio.conf, with COMPRESSION="lzma -4" --- /sbin/mkinitcpio.orig 2010-10-06 03:23:00.966415649 +0300 +++ /sbin/mkinitcpio 2011-02-26 19:11:36.309682053 +0200 @@ -277,7 +277,7 @@ status=0 if [ -n "${GENIMG}" ]; then echo -n ":: Generating image '${GENIMG}'..." - if ! /sbin/gen_init_cpio ${FILELIST} | ${COMPRESSION} -9 > "${GENIMG}"; then + if ! /sbin/gen_init_cpio ${FILELIST} | ${COMPRESSION} > "${GENIMG}"; then echo "FAILED" status=1 else What do you think? Should this make it to the distro? Also I actually think that *not* forcing -9 compression level, and letting the tool use its default is a good thing. Thanks, Dimitris

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] ncurses-5.8-1
by Emmanuel Benisty 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 27/02/11 10:40, Allan McRae wrote: >> >> Major upstream update. >> >> Test well. There is no soname bump, but experience tells me that some >> rebuilds will probably be required to fix minor issues. just FTR, it breaks rtorrent. eb64@drama:~$rtorrent Caught Segmentation fault, dumping stack: 0 rtorrent() [0x439274] 1 rtorrent() [0x43d737] 2 /lib/libc.so.6(+0x326d0) [0x7f60f5e6e6d0] 3 rtorrent() [0x482f9e] 4 rtorrent() [0x439988] 5 /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x7f60f5e5adcd] 6 rtorrent() [0x40d959] Aborted simple rebuild doesn't seem to help, downgrading does.

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[arch-general] [boost/boost-libs] PKGBUILD update for 1.46.0 + many improvements
by Thomas Dziedzic 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

Hey, this is mainly targeted at the maintainers of boost/boost-libs, but others are free to check it out, I have reworked the PKGBUILD for boost/boost-libs and I have managed to update the beast to 1.46.0 I have a full file [1] and a diff [2] against the previous version (1.45.0). I have also built the PKGBUILD for both i686 and x86_64 in clean chroots and provided the results [3]. Notable changes include: * bump version to 1.46.0 * enable icu support in regex * fix FS#22370 - [boost] does not include MPI [4] * fix FS#22471 - [boost-libs] no libboost_thread.so [5] * minor PKGBUILD cleanups Disabling single thread building and just building the multithreaded libs cut the number of files in boost-libs by about a half :) I was also told by upstream there isn't a need for enabling single threaded support. The only boost bug open is FS#22178 - [boost/boost-libs] Support for Python 3 [6] and I tried enabling support, but got errors, so it will just have to wait. Upstream doubts they support the latest python3.2, which I was told in irc. [1] - http://pkgbuild.com/~td123/boost/PKGBUILD [2] - http://pkgbuild.com/~td123/boost/PKGBUILD.diff [3] - http://pkgbuild.com/~td123/boost/ [4] - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22370 [5] - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22471 Cheers!

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[arch-general] syslog-ng makes a kernel WARNING in 2.6.38
by Damjan 27 Feb '11

27 Feb '11

I'm running a self compiled 2.6.38-rc6-00113-g4662db4 on my 64bit desktop, and I get a nasty warning in dmesg complaining about capabilities. Is this a syslog-ng issue, or something with the package in Arch, or maybe I need to setup some capabilities to the binary? syslog-ng is 3.2.2-1, the full kernel warning is below, but afaik most important is: Attempt to access syslog with CAP_SYS_ADMIN but no CAP_SYSLOG (deprecated). ------------[ cut here ]------------ WARNING: at kernel/printk.c:288 do_syslog+0xc1/0x510() Hardware name: A780GM-A Attempt to access syslog with CAP_SYS_ADMIN but no CAP_SYSLOG (deprecated). Modules linked in: usb_storage uas joydev usbhid hid btusb bluetooth rfkill sp5100_tco snd_seq_dummy snd_hda_cod ec_hdmi snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device atl1 mii snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_hda_codec_i dt floppy edac_core edac_mce_amd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd i2c_piix4 usbcore snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_p cm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc evdev pcspkr shpchp pci_hotplug sg button thermal k8temp ip_tables x_t ables fuse kvm_amd kvm powernow_k8 freq_table processor mperf ext4 mbcache jbd2 crc16 sd_mod sr_mod cdrom pata_a cpi ahci libahci pata_atiixp libata scsi_mod radeon ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core cfbcopyarea cfb imgblt cfbfillrect Pid: 3082, comm: syslog-ng Not tainted 2.6.38-rc6-00113-g4662db4 #5 Call Trace: [<ffffffff81056afa>] ? warn_slowpath_common+0x7a/0xb0 [<ffffffff81056bd1>] ? warn_slowpath_fmt+0x41/0x50 [<ffffffff811bc154>] ? security_capable+0x24/0x30 [<ffffffff81057db1>] ? do_syslog+0xc1/0x510 [<ffffffff8119ca47>] ? kmsg_open+0x17/0x20 [<ffffffff811917e3>] ? proc_reg_open+0xa3/0x190 [<ffffffff8119ca30>] ? kmsg_open+0x0/0x20 [<ffffffff8119ca10>] ? kmsg_release+0x0/0x20 [<ffffffff81191740>] ? proc_reg_open+0x0/0x190 [<ffffffff81137ac0>] ? __dentry_open+0x100/0x370 [<ffffffff81143cbe>] ? generic_permission+0x1e/0xc0 [<ffffffff81138d61>] ? nameidata_to_filp+0x71/0x80 [<ffffffff81147c18>] ? finish_open+0xc8/0x1b0 [<ffffffff81147422>] ? do_path_lookup+0x82/0x160 [<ffffffff81148359>] ? do_filp_open+0x259/0x800 [<ffffffff810bb270>] ? call_rcu+0x10/0x20 [<ffffffff81154bd4>] ? alloc_fd+0xf4/0x150 [<ffffffff8120064d>] ? strncpy_from_user+0x2d/0x40 [<ffffffff81138dd4>] ? do_sys_open+0x64/0x110 [<ffffffff81138e9b>] ? sys_open+0x1b/0x20 [<ffffffff8100bdd2>] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b ---[ end trace 52dc0a1402a3a0af ]--- -- дамјан

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[arch-general] aplay ignoring CONT
by Jorge Almeida 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

In case someone is using aplay: It seems that aplay is ignoring a CONT signal. After interrupting with Ctrl-Z or with kill -s STOP, I can't resume playing. I have to kill the process with Ctrl-C or with kill -9. A couple of days ago aplay worked fine. I have an up to date system as of 15m ago. I also checked that my sound setup is ok: xmms works fine. Can somebody confirm this problem? Note that aplay works normally unless it is suspended. Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] Problems with nvidia card
by Ondřej Kučera 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

Hello, I have a fresh Arch Linux installation on a Lenovo T410 laptop which has the following graphics card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2) At first I tried the nouveau driver, following the description on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau. Using this driver, the X server "freezes" every couple of hours (sometimes once a day, sometimes five times a day): mouse pointer moves around the screen, even music keeps playing but mouse clicking has no effect and neither has keyboard typing. I tried suspending desktop effects in KDE, then I even uninstalled nouveau-dri but it keeps happening anyway. This is what I found in /var/log/Xorg.log in some cases: [ 49693.881] [mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop. [ 49693.940] Backtrace: [ 49694.120] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x49f718] [ 49694.120] 1: /usr/bin/X (mieqEnqueue+0x1f4) [0x49eb14] [ 49694.120] 2: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostKeyEventP+0x67) [0x47c0d7] [ 49694.120] 3: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostKeyboardEvent+0x19) [0x47c249] [ 49694.121] 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0x7f9b0f6de000+0x4700) [0x7f9b0f6e2700] [ 49694.121] 5: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x698e7) [0x4698e7] [ 49694.121] 6: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x118a93) [0x518a93] [ 49694.121] 7: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f9b13dfa000+0xf150) [0x7f9b13e09150] [ 49694.121] 8: /lib/libc.so.6 (ioctl+0x7) [0x7f9b12e28aa7] [ 49694.122] 9: /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (drmIoctl+0x28) [0x7f9b115e7268] [ 49694.122] 10: /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (drmCommandWrite+0x1b) [0x7f9b115e959b] [ 49694.122] 11: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (0x7f9b10fa7000+0x2ead) [0x7f9b10fa9ead] [ 49694.122] 12: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (nouveau_bo_map_range+0xfe) [0x7f9b10faa4ce] [ 49694.122] 13: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (0x7f9b10fa7000+0x1f3d) [0x7f9b10fa8f3d] [ 49694.122] 14: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.1 (nouveau_pushbuf_flush+0x1af) [0x7f9b10fa953f] [ 49694.122] 15: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0x7f9b10b6c000+0x9165) [0x7f9b10b75165] [ 49694.122] 16: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0x7f9b10b6c000+0xbd31) [0x7f9b10b77d31] [ 49694.122] 17: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0xd7c17) [0x4d7c17] [ 49694.122] 18: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x1674f7) [0x5674f7] [ 49694.122] 19: /usr/bin/X (miCompositeRects+0x7a) [0x5675ea] [ 49694.122] 20: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0xd06f0) [0x4d06f0] [ 49694.122] 21: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2d201) [0x42d201] [ 49694.122] 22: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2131e) [0x42131e] [ 49694.122] 23: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x7f9b12d7adcd] [ 49694.122] 24: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x20ec9) [0x420ec9] So I thought I'd try the nvidia binary driver. At the first sight fonts look different, much larger (and although I don't know why a driver change should result in bigger fonts, I can tweak this later) but for some reason KDE now tells me this: The audio playback device HDA Intel (CONEXANT Analog) does not work. Falling back to . Which results in no sound working at all. When I try running alsamixer, I get the following: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory When I try to switch to one of the virtual terminals (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F1), alsamixer runs fine, when I switch back to X, it fails again, so clearly nvidia messes with that somehow. I'm unable to find anything relevant in the log files but I probably just don't know what to look for. At this point I don't really care which driver to choose (although I'd probably prefer a solution based on nouveau) but please, does anyone have a suggestion what to try to have both stable X.org and working sound? Thank you. Ondřej Kučera -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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Re: [arch-general] Kernel Panic on x64 when writting to 1TB
by Victor Silva 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Folks I downgraded my kernel to 2 versions prior, I think from r5 to r3 and now the problem SEEMS to be gone, as I did not do any other modification I assume this was the issue. Still i'm doing some more tests. Regards, Victor

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[arch-general] Adding AUR packages to [community] packages' provides
by Lukas Fleischer 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Well, I'm addressing current blacklisting issues with the AUR [1]. I noticed that some of the packages in the official repos have AUR packages as provides, some of them (well, at least one of them, didn't search for more) were even added due to FRs [2]. Donnu if this applies to [core] and [extra] as well. Is that regular practice? Imho, we shouldn't do that. The AUR is something to be considered separately. If we start to care about provides/conflicts with AUR packages, we'll need to add all "-devel"/"-svn"/"-git"/"-beta" packages in the AUR to the official packages conflicts and provides as well. And we'll need to start searching for alternative repos to ensure there's no conflict with our official packages. Seriously, we should be consistent here. [1] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2011-February/013811.html [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16495

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Re: [arch-general] [trinity-devel] x86_64 kdesktop.kcrash [SOLVED - it is glibc]
by David C. Rankin 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

On 02/21/2011 08:41 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 02/21/2011 05:09 PM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote: >> uff i reading this >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2010-March/005818.html and >> seem like that! >> >> any help fron anybody here! >> > > I'll follow up there. I can't believe that an libxcb problem would still be > around a year later. <snip> Guys, The problem is glibc-2.13-4. I have about 5 Arch/Trinity Virtualbox VMs. On one I had not updated, I started Trinity x86_64 and there was NO kdesktop crash. I then proceeded to update the VM to the current Arch packages which included: [2011-02-22 11:13] Generating locales... [2011-02-22 11:13] en_US.UTF-8... done [2011-02-22 11:13] en_US.ISO-8859-1... done [2011-02-22 11:13] Generation complete. [2011-02-22 11:13] upgraded glibc (2.13-3 -> 2.13-4) <snip> [2011-02-22 11:17] upgraded kernel26 (2.6.37-6 -> 2.6.37.1-1) [2011-02-22 11:17] upgraded kernel26-headers (2.6.37-6 -> 2.6.37.1-1) <snip> [2011-02-22 11:18] upgraded trinity-kdelibs (1220926-1 -> 1222098-1) [2011-02-22 11:18] upgraded trinity-kdebase (1221507-1 -> 1221588-1) On next reboot/restart, I got the kdesktop.kcrash (attached). So then I downgraded glibc (2.13-4 -> 2.13-3), restarted Trinity -> perfect No kdesktop,kcrash. It looks like this is a glibc issue, so I'll follow up (below) with Arch to make sure it looks like glibc and not a package issue. Thanks for your help. cc: arch-general Arch devs - Do you think this could be a packaging/patch issue with Arch, or do you think is going to be glibc itself? It looks like glibc to me, but I thought I'd ask first before going to the glibc folks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] gimp ufraw update
by Philipp 24 Feb '11

24 Feb '11

Hi there. I'm playing with digital photos atm., found ufraw and found that it's out of date since a long while. Here's my take on updating it: # $Id: PKGBUILD 96307 2010-10-19 21:03:01Z ibiru $ # Maintainer: Tobias Kieslich <tobias(a)archlinux.org> pkgname=gimp-ufraw _srcname=ufraw pkgver=0.18 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Standalone or gimp plugin converter for raw files" url="http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') license=('GPL2') depends=('gtkimageview' 'exiv2' 'lensfun') makedepends=('gimp' 'cinepaint' 'pkgconfig') optdepends=('gimp: to use the gimp import plugin for raw images' 'cinepaint: to use the cinepaint import plugin for raw images') source=(http://downloads.sourceforge.net/${_srcname}/${_srcname}-${pkgver}.… md5sums=('454f40a402928998a82e2645d9265d96') build() { cd "${srcdir}/${_srcname}-${pkgver}" ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --enable-extras \ --enable-mime \ --enable-openmp make } package() { cd ${srcdir}/${_srcname}-${pkgver} make DESTDIR="${pkgdir}" install rm -f ${pkgdir}/usr/bin/dcraw } Lensfun is a new dependency, not sure it is needed (http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/index.html) The last configure option simply didn't exist and I removed the sed line (assuming upstream know what they're doing). In my opinion the package name should be ufraw rather than gimp-ufraw since this package enables ufraw standalone, in batch-mode and as 'plug-in' for cinepaint and gimp. HTH Philipp

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[arch-general] Updated kdemod3 built on Trinity Stable (3.5.12) available - Thanks to Albert Vaca
by David C. Rankin 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

Guys, Albert Vaca has built kdemod3 updates with the Trinity 3.5.12 (stable) code base. The repository for the binaries is: [kdemod3] Server = http://rapinjam.com/beta/lefa/kdemod3/i686/ or [kdemod3] Server = http://rapinjam.com/beta/lefa/kdemod3/x86_64/ I updated an i686 box last night after adding the repository with: pacman -S kdemod3-complete <snip> Total Download Size: 172.53 MB Total Installed Size: 582.04 MB <snip> checking package integrity... (155/155) checking for file conflicts [####################################################] 100% <snip> (155/155) installing kdemod3-tools [####################################################] 100% Restart the desktop and you will be greeted with the Trinity 3.5.12 initial setup dialog. Everything seems to run fine. I'll have more time to work with the desktop later today and tomorrow. If you are interested in trying it, you can simply add the repo and install the binaries. The thanks goes to Albert for his effort. I've been working with the svn (3.5.13 development) code. It was just coincidence that Albert and I ended up in somewhat the same place at the same time :) This grew out of the old forum thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97612&p=4 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] util-linux 2.19-3
by Uli Armbruster 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Ionuț Bîru <ibiru(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On 02/22/2011 02:13 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> Am 22.02.2011 12:35, schrieb Ionuț Bîru: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The util-linux-ng project has been renamed back to util-linux. >>> >> >> Why 2.19-3? Shouldn't it be -1? >> > > because tpowa uploaded a broken -1 and i only fixed it. > > -1 had no versioned provider for util-linux-ng and an update wasn't > possible, it had a missing .install. all of them fixed in -2. > > after that i noticed that ipc info file is not generate and the .install > command was failing because of that. the ipc doc file was dropped by > upstream. this was fixed in -3. > > > >> partx(8): >>> - this command has been rewritten to use libblkid for partition tables >>> parsing. It supports aix, bsd, dos, gpt, mac, minix, sgi, >>> solaris_x86, sun, >>> ultrix and unixware now. >>> >>> - supports new command line option "--show" to list partitions in new >>> format >>> >>> - prints UUID and name for GPT and mac partitions >>> >> >> One highlight for me: partx should now work on loop devices (or other >> devices that don't support drive geometry calls). >> >> For a complete list of changes see docs/v2.19-ReleaseNotes >>> >>> Packaging differences between util-linux-ng 2.18: >>> [...] >>> * tpowa changes --enable-libmount-mount link mount(8) with libmount >>> (EXPERIMENTAL) >>> >> >> Is that a good idea already? We will have to see. >> >> That change was already committed by tpowa in 2.19-1 and i didn't touch > it. > > > I also hope you removed all the patches we had in 2.18. >> >> > already removed by twopa in 2.19-1 > > What have i done for this package is only to fix what tpowa committed. > > > > -- > Ionuț > I did get the following output when I updated. Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages from testing... util-linux-2.19-2-i686 1388.8K 987.1K/s 00:00:01 [-----------------------------------] 100% checking package integrity... (1/1) checking for file conflicts [-----------------------------------] 100% (1/1) removing util-linux-ng [-----------------------------------] 100% (1/1) installing util-linux [-----------------------------------] 100% error: command failed to execute correctly Optional dependencies for util-linux perl: for chkdupexe support

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[arch-general] xcb_wait_for_reply () from /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 causing kdesktop crash on x86_64 (is this an upstream issue?)
by David C. Rankin 22 Feb '11

22 Feb '11

Guys, I have run into an issue that is only causing problems on x86_64. It looks like libxcb. The kcrash file is here: [2k] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/errors/x86_64/kdesktop-1.kcrash I need to figure out if this is an upstream libxcb issue or possibly a package issue. How do I figure this out? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Kernel Panic on x64 when writting to 1TB External USB disk
by Victor Silva 22 Feb '11

22 Feb '11

Hi folks i'm not 100% sure I'm posting on the right list so if im wrong please disregard and direct me to the appropriate list. :) Well I'm having a problem with USB devices causing kernel panic. I got an external 1 TB USB hard disk in NTFS format. When I tried to save some files (downloads from deluge) on it I get a kernel panic. Which files/logs can I provide to help you? The system simply hangs and all keyboard leads start to blink. I'm using Linux 2.6.37-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Feb 18 18:32:16 CET 2011 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux. It is the default arch linux kernel. If I write a small file and move to the folder things seem to be okay. Any ideas? Thanks for the great distro folks hope you can help me on this one.

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[arch-general] Trinity Binaries - Unofficial Repo - Thank You Kainting Chen!
by David C. Rankin 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

All, Kaiting Chen has provided server space for Trinity binaries. Currently I have the i686 files uploaded and will upload x86_64 shortly (after my kids are done with toontown....) The url for the i686 repo is: http://www.kiwilight.com/~drankinatty/trinity/i686/ (Trinity packages are 2/19/2011 builds) The x86_64 repo will be the same url with x86_64. Trinity needs a clean environment currently (no kdemod3). If you have had a prior kdemod3 install, then delete: /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/ksycoca /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/ksycocastamp and move ~/.kde somewhere else. If you have kde4 installed, then expect akonadi/nepomuk and all the kde4 autostart files in /usr/share/autostart to run (Trinity devs are working on a way to ignore all the kde4 autostart files) To install trinity, just add the repo to /etc/pacman.conf: [trinity] Server = http://www.kiwilight.com/~drankinatty/trinity/i686/ Then just do 'pacman -Sy trinity-kdewebdev' and it will pull in the complete Trinity desktop (kdewebdev requires all trinity dependencies) I recommend installing it in either a clean Arch install, or just create a new Arch virtualbox VM and install it there. It is a darn good looking desktop. x86_64 packages by the morning :) See: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity for current details :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] Howto - tell pacman -S (-U) to overwrite existing file in filesystem?
by David C. Rankin 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

On 02/20/2011 04:15 PM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: > [2011-02-20 15:32:14 -0600] David C. Rankin: >> The question is "Can I do something in the PKGBUILD to tell pacman >> - if the file is already there -> overwrite it?" > > Please. This mailing list is not for people to read you man pages. > > Next time, could you first spend five minutes to try and answer your > questions on your own? Here, it was as simple as searching for "pacman > overwrite" in Google, or looking for "overwrite" in pacman's man page. > > I am sure you understand this would benefit to everyone. > > For a more lengthy essay on the topic, see: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before > Thank you Gaetan and Sebastian, From your answers, I don't think you read my question before giving the the RTFM dismissal. I know how pacman -f works. I stated that in my original email. I'm not asking how to make pacman do it. I'm asking: <quote> The question is "Can I do something in the PKGBUILD to tell pacman - if the file is already there -> overwrite it?" </quote> The only information I found in man PKGBUILD on force was option(force) which relates to triggering an update even though the version number would not normally do so. I apologize if I missed it in the man page, but that is why I asked. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Howto - tell pacman -S (-U) to overwrite existing file in filesystem?
by David C. Rankin 20 Feb '11

20 Feb '11

Guys, This is a curiosity really. I updated kdebase to create a trinity.desktop file in /etc/X11/sessions in the PKGBUILD package() function: # install desktop and update kdmrc and Xsession [[ -f trinity.desktop ]] && { mkdir -p ${pkgdir}/etc/X11/sessions cp trinity.desktop ${pkgdir}/etc/X11/sessions } <snip> Since I had already created trinity.desktop on my box (before it was part of the package), I get (correctly): Targets (1): trinity-kdebase-1221588-1 Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 86.71 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... checking for file conflicts... trinity-kdebase: /etc/X11/sessions/trinity.desktop exists in filesystem IIRC this is exactly the way pacman is supposed to work because it has no knowledge of a prior trinity.desktop in the filesystem and won't overwrite it. The short answer is "dummy -- remove the file or use --force." I get that. The question is "Can I do something in the PKGBUILD to tell pacman - if the file is already there -> overwrite it?" The purpose for the question is make sure nobody else gets a conflict if they have followed a prior manual Trinity kdm install proceedure. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.37.1-1
by Tobias Powalowski 20 Feb '11

20 Feb '11

Hi guys, - bump to latest version greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg and multiple sources, a bug?
by Magnus Therning 20 Feb '11

20 Feb '11

I just tried building a package with more than one source file using makechrootpkg. It failed with this message: ==> ERROR: Integrity checks (md5) differ in size from the source array. After a bit of poking around in the makechrootpkg script I made the following change: --- makechrootpkg.orig 2011-02-20 09:22:30.130744179 +0000 +++ makechrootpkg 2011-02-20 09:22:44.494796349 +0000 @@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ for f in ${source[@]}; do basef=$(echo $f | sed 's|::.*||' | sed 's|^.*://.*/||g') if [ -f "$basef" ]; then - cp "$basef" "$copydir/srcdest/" + cp "$basef" "$copydir/build/" elif [ -f "$SRCDEST/$basef" ]; then cp "$SRCDEST/$basef" "$copydir/srcdest/" fi After this the package built just fine. I'm doubting myself in this though, because it seems like such an obvious bug, especially since the PKGBUILD is copied into $copydir/build/ just a few lines above this change. Also, should the copy in the elif-branch be changed too? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. -- Alan Kay

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[arch-general] who wants to write me a relatively simple webapp?
by Dieter Plaetinck 20 Feb '11

20 Feb '11

Hi, for Arch releng, we have recently started automatically building test builds (http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/) These images are built from the archiso and aif git repositories, and the current state of the repos. The idea is that people can test these images, and once in a while, I will promote a set of testbuilds and make them the officially supported media. Because everything evolves all the time, a lot of different things can cause regressions or new bugs, but at the same time it would be too much work to try to test all possible scenarios for each specific testbuild version. So I would like a web application that gives me "a pretty good idea" of the quality of current/recent images. I request someone other then me to make this app for me, I do not have the time. (I do have time for feedback or making adjustments to the codebase you provide) I'm not sure which is best, php or python, or whatever. I think both will be fine (Dan? Pierre?) Basically it would have 2 modes: 1) the "input" mode (after logging in with your wiki or forum account, not sure what's best here. Dan?): the user would select a version (maintain a cached list of the directories at http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/ the format will always be YYYY.MM.DD[suffix]) and select a list of options which are verified to be working fine. that is: (between braces are additional instructions for the user) = image arch = * dual, option i686 * dual, option x86_64 * i686 * x86_64 = image type = * core * net = image boot = * optical * usb * pxe = hardware type = * virtualbox * qemu * physical intel i686 * physical intel x86_64 * physical amd i686 * physical amd x86_64 = install type = * automatic install generic example * automatic install fancy example * automatic install custom config (specify in comments) * interactive install = source selection = * net install manual networking config (check that it works + rc.conf, resolv.conf, mirrorlist) * net install dhcp (check that it works + rc.conf) * core = clock = * left as is * reconfigured manually * reconfigured ntp = partitioning/filesystems = * autoprepare (check the installed system, incl fstab) * manual * from config file = fancy stuff (checklist, not selection) = * lvm2 * dm_crypt * softraid * nilfs2 * btrfs (check also fstab, menu.lst, initcpio.conf and crypttab if appropriate) = rollback tested = * yes * no = if rollback done, another partitioning/filesystems list and another "fancy stuff" list (same options as before) for after the rollback = = bootloader = * grub * syslinux * other/manual = result = * everything works fine * something failed (elaborate in comments) = comments = <textarea> Then, a second interface would need to represent the "current state of things.. (sort of)" that is, for every important thing (like, all image arches, image types, image boots, install types, source selections, clock, partitioning/filesystems, fancy stuff, rollback tested, grub/syslinux bootloader) it needs to show the last recent tests (or the last images for which it worked), along with which user tested it. (note: not all combinations of all variables, just any test with the given variable). if there was any failed test for a specific feature for an as recent (or more recent) image then the last successful one, there should be a warning about that. I'm not sure yet how exactly this page would look like, but basically I need to know all important features are tested with recent images, and that they all performed well. other factors (like hardware type, bootloader other/manual bootloader option) are not very important, they are more for reference. Thanks, Dieter

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.29-2
by Tobias Powalowski 20 Feb '11

20 Feb '11

Latest LTS kernel is in testing, please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] chrooting / LiveCD
by Jorge Almeida 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

I've been reading several pieces of documentation about making a custom LiveCD, in particular the documentation for Archiso. Makefiles and bash are not my strong suit, so I may have misunderstood something. Among other things, we need to create a directory, say "prov", and populate it with an arch system. I tried this: mkdir -p prov/var/lib/pacman pacman -r prov -Sy pacman -r prov -S base This seems to work, although it had a complain about the directory "sys". My question is: to populate a directory with a base system plus some assorted stuff, can we do it with pacman -r? Or is it necessary to chroot into prov? (And if so, don't we need to use pacman -r to have a functional chroot dir to begin with?) I would understand the need for chroot if we were to compile software (I read LFS stuff...), to ensure correct library linking. But we're talking about binary packages... I'm just trying to get the big (and small) picture... TIA Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] Quick & Dirty build script for Traditional Trinity PKGBUILDs
by David C. Rankin 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

Guys, I have added a simple Quick & Dirty build script that will build all of Trinity that has been ported to cmake using the new Traditional set of PKGBUILDs. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Quick_.26_Dirty_Build_for_Trad… Just download the PKGBUILD tarballs and unzip them to a temporary directory, then set 3 path variables in the script, change to the build directory you set in the script and run it. It also provides a brief log in the build dir: Feb 18 21:54:42 building: trinity-tqtinterface resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (1): trinity-tqtinterface-1221148-1 Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 2.47 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... checking for file conflicts... upgrading trinity-tqtinterface... `trinity-tqtinterface-1221148-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' -> `/home/david/alc-home/arch/tpkg/x86_64/trinity-tqtinterface-1221148-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' removed `trinity-tqtinterface-1221148-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' Feb 18 21:57:25 building: trinity-arts <snip> Feb 18 22:02:56 building: trinity-kdelibs <snip> Feb 18 22:57:07 building: trinity-kdebase <snip> Feb 18 23:54:30 building: trinity-kdevelop <snip> It should build all the way through. All you have to do is hit Y to accept dependencies. See the wiki link above for details. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.29-1
by Andreas Radke 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Upstream update. Please signoff. -Andy http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/longterm/v2.6.32/ChangeLog-2.6.…

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[arch-general] Trinity - traditional PKGBUILD set done
by David C. Rankin 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Guys, I have completed a set of traditional PKGBUILD scripts for Trinity that download the needed svn source and build the Trinity packages as usual rather than you needing to put the PKGBUILD script in the svn tree. The are normal tarballs that contain the PKGBUILDs and any patches needed. Note: you must build in a clean environment without kde4/Qt4 or kdemod3 present. A clean Arch install in a Virtualbox VM works fine. For those wanting to give them a try, here is the build order with links: trinity-qt3: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-qt3.tar.gz trinity-pyqt3: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-pyqt3.tar.gz trinity-tqtinterface: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-tqtinterface.tar.… trinity-arts: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-arts.tar.gz trinity-kdelibs: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-kdelibs.tar.gz trinity-kdebase: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-kdebase.tar.gz NOTE: you can start Trinity after you build and install trinity-kdebase trinity-kdevelop: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-kdevelop.tar.gz trinity-kdewebdev: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/src/trinity-kdewebdev.tar.gz I have also updated the wiki with links: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity If you experience any problems -- let me know :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.37-6
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Hi guys, - rebuild against latest binutils/glibc greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg -d and corrupted repos
by Magnus Therning 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Over the last few weeks I've noticed that the repository created by 'makechrootpkg -d' regularly becomes corrupted. Subsequent builds result in something like resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (2): haskell-boolean-0.0.1-1 haskell-memotrie-0.4.9-1 Total Download Size: 0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 1.36 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... :: File haskell-boolean-0.0.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted. Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] :: File haskell-memotrie-0.4.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted. Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) haskell-boolean-0.0.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is invalid or corrupted haskell-memotrie-0.4.9-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is invalid or corrupted Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. I then have to jump into the chroot and manually re-build the repo DB using repo-add. After that I can re-issue the command and everything is fine. I've not done any research into this issue, but when I've asked around in the ArchHaskell group no one recognises this issue. However, I seem to be the only one building on x86_64, but I'm nonplused why that would play any role. So I thought I'd ask a little wider, has anyone else seen this behaviour when using 'makechrootpkg -d'? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

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[arch-general] 2011.02-1 archboot "2k11-R1" ISO hybrid image released
by Tobias Powalowski 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Hi Arch community, Arch Linux (archboot creation tool) 2011.02-1, "2k11-R1" has been released. To avoid confusion, this is not an official arch linux iso release! Homepage and for more information on archboot: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot Forum: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=113741 Summary: - bump to latest kernels - introduce full UEFI bootloader support with new grub2 packages. Hybrid image file and torrent is provided, which include i686 and x86_64 core repository. Please check md5sum before using it. Hybrid image file is a standard CD-burnable image and also a raw disk image. - Can be burned to CD(RW) media using most CD-burning utilities. - Can be raw-written to a drive using 'dd' or similar utilities. This method is intended for use with USB thumb drives. Please get it from your favorite arch linux mirror: - https://downloads.archlinux.de/iso/archboot/2011.02/ - <yourmirror>/iso/archboot/2010.12/ Have fun, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] sanity check - pkgbuild writing svn rev as $pkgver for new packages - help?
by David C. Rankin 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Guys, I'm working on a second set of pkgbuild for Trinity that do the svn download for you and work like normal pkgbuilds for other svn projects. One issue I'm having is getting the "finished package name" to include the svn revision as $pkgver instead of the initial (eg. pkgver=9999). The bottom line is if I update pkgver in build() it isn't used when the final package is written. If I only update it between build() and package() then the final package gets the correct svn rev as $pkgver, but all messages during build are wrong. So I end up updating the pkgver in build() and then between build() and package(). That doesn't seem right. The problem seems like a scope issue for pkgver. If set in build() pkgver isn't seen globally in the PKGBUILD script, even though it is declared with global scope and updated in build(). Can somebody familiar with PKGBUILDs give the following a quick look to make sure it is reasonable and I'm not biting my myself by the double call to update pkgver? http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/pkgbuild/svn/PKGBUILD-tqtinte… Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] should kdepim-libkdepim-4.4.10-1 and kdepim-runtime-4.4.10-1 still be on the system with kde 4.6?
by David C. Rankin 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Guys, Removing kde4 from a test box to work with Trinity, I ran across a few kde4 files that looked like they were orphans. I had already removed kde4 with: pacman -R kde gtk-kde4 kdebindings-smoke kdeplasma-addons-libs kmldonkey konq-plugins kopete-cryptography qtcurve-kde4 yakuake Checking /usr/share/autostart, there were still files present. So checking ownership I found: 15:51 supersff:~> l /usr/share/autostart/ total 40 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 17 15:32 . drwxr-xr-x 404 root root 12288 Feb 17 15:47 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4417 Jan 27 08:47 kaddressbookmigrator.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10584 Jan 19 16:04 nepomukserver.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 908 Dec 9 02:51 polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1.desktop 15:51 supersff:~> pmq -o /usr/share/autostart/nepomukserver.desktop /usr/share/autostart/nepomukserver.desktop is owned by kdebase-runtime 4.6.0-1 15:52 supersff:~> pmq -o /usr/share/autostart/kaddressbookmigrator.desktop /usr/share/autostart/kaddressbookmigrator.desktop is owned by kdepim-runtime 4.4.10-1 15:52 supersff:~> pmq -o /usr/share/autostart/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1.desktop /usr/share/autostart/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1.desktop is owned by polkit-kde 0.99.0-1 Trying to remove the packages listed dependencies I thought would have already been removed when I removed kde: 15:52 supersff:~> sudo pacman -R kdebase-runtime kdepim-runtime polkit-kde checking dependencies... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: kcoloredit: requires kdebase-runtime :: kdebindings-python: requires kdepim-runtime :: kdepim-libkdepim: requires kdepim-runtime :: kdiff3: requires kdebase-runtime :: kfax: requires kdebase-runtime :: kgrab: requires kdebase-runtime :: kgraphviewer: requires kdebase-runtime :: kiconedit: requires kdebase-runtime :: kpovmodeler: requires kdebase-runtime :: kwebkitpart: requires kdebase-runtime I guess if they are just dependent on the kdebase-runtime, then they could have been separately installed. The big thing that caught my eye were the kde44 version on the kdepim files when I went to remove all the dependencies: 15:52 supersff:~> sudo pacman -R kdebase-runtime kdepim-runtime polkit-kde kcoloredit kdebindings-python kdepim-libkdepim kdiff3 kfax kgrab kgraphviewer kiconedit kpovmodeler kwebkitpart checking dependencies... Remove (13): kwebkitpart-1.1-1 kpovmodeler-1.1.3-3 kiconedit-4.4.0-1 kgraphviewer-2.1.1-1 kgrab-0.1.1-3 kfax-3.3.6-2 kdiff3-0.9.95-2 kdepim-libkdepim-4.4.10-1 kdebindings-python-4.6.0-1 kcoloredit-2.0.0-4 polkit-kde-0.99.0-1 kdepim-runtime-4.4.10-1 kdebase-runtime-4.6.0-1 Total Removed Size: 84.10 MB Is there any problem with the kdepim 4.4 files with the kde 4.6 install? Just thought I would run this by the experts. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] vi dependency mailx - why not mailx-heirloom?
by David C. Rankin 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Guys, Just a quick question on the vi dependency of mailx. Why not mailx-heirloom? It provides a great deal more capability with attachments, and flexibility as a cli mailer. The issues is down in the noise, but why drive a pinto if you can drive a jag? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Trinity Running on Arch Linux!
by David C. Rankin 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Guys, It works! After building kdebase (and fighting with other modules), I just decided to start trinity and see if it would work. Changed ~/.xinitrc to 'startkde' and then typed 'startx' and: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/trinity-first-run.jpg http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/trinity-running_01.jpg (this is running in a clean virtualbox Arch install) There is still work to be done, because all modules have not yet been ported to CMake, but for a proof of concept for the PKGBUILDs on Arch -- a complete success. I'll bring the wiki up to date later today, but it already contains the PKGBUILDs that will build Trinity into a working desktop with a single [very 'Quick & Dirty'] build script called 'bldtrin.sh' (for development purposes only). For those interested. See the wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Question about automated builder
by Thomas S Hatch 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

I have mentioned this subject before on aur-general, but I wanted to open a discussion about it in the broader community. I have spent a great deal of my career working with Red Hat Linux, as have many in the professional Linux world, and there is one project that is amazingly useful for the Red Hat world, and that is Koji. You can take a look at the web interface for koji here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ Basically, koji acts as a continuous build server for the fedora project's rpms. it has a number of benefits, one is that all of the building is done in a controlled environment, so we have a %100 assurance that the packages makedepends are correct, and and the packages are all built inside of clean chroots. Koji also allows for very simple mass-rebuilds of packages, since all anyone needs to do it increment the release number and koji can pick up the change and build the package. I have been passively working on a similar project called quarters, but I must admit that my motivation is somewhat low not knowing if the project is in demand. So here is my question, do we think that something like this would be a benefit to Arch? Is this the type of project that should merit my attention? Also, if we do think that this would be a good thing to have for Arch, I would like feedback on what types of features the system would have and how it would behave. Right now I am following the idea of supporting a distributed build system so that we can have any number of build servers in the fray working away to produce Arch packages for us. I am also attempting to build it in such a way that a database is not required and that the interface would be amazingly simple (this is Arch after all). This would mean that by mearly checking into svn a package would be built, and then an interface would pop up for the right people to sign it off, and once it has been signed off it would move over. Or at least that is the basic idea I am running on. The code has not come very far, but if the Arch community and developers think that this is a good idea then please let me know, my motivation should soar and I will make Arch a super continuous package build system! -Thomas S Hatch -TU

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[arch-general] Any place I can host the Trinity binary packages for testing?
by David C. Rankin 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Guys, Is there a place I can upload and host the finished Trinity packages for testing? I have less than 500K upstream capability at home, so that makes hosting the binaries impossible for me. I have both i686 and x86_64 packages done for the following: 20:53 archangel:~/arch/tpkg> ls -1 i686/ trinity-arts-1221147-1.1-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdebase-1221122-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdelibs-1221122-1.1-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdevelop-1221146-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdewebdev-1221146-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-pyqt3-3.18.1-9-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-qt3-3.3.8-20-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-tqtinterface-1221146-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz The total size is 69M for i686 20:59 archangel:~/arch/tpkg> ls -1 x86_64/ trinity-arts-1220940-1.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdebase-1221126-1.0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdelibs-1220940-1.1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdevelop-1221141-1.0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-kdewebdev-1221146-1.0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-pyqt3-3.18.1-9-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-qt3-3.3.8-20-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz trinity-tqtinterface-1221146-1.0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz The total size is 65M for x86_64 If there is any interest, I can put them up somewhere for testing. I'm running them in virtualbox at the moment, but there is no reason you couldn't just install the binaries alongside kde4 or kdemod3 for that matter. They install trinity in '/opt/trinity'. The only impact to installing along with kdemod3 is the updated Qt3 will make kdemod3 gwenview unhappy, but other than that, they should get along peacefully. Let me know if there is any interest for hosting the binaries somewhere. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] new build of mutt in [testing]
by Gaetan Bisson 16 Feb '11

16 Feb '11

Hi everyone, I have made a new build of mutt with two significant changes: 1. Use ncurses rather than slang. (Slang made sense before, but ncurses supports Unicode now, is more featureful and popular, and MuttWiki recommends it as a solution to many slang-related problems.) 2. Use libidn for internationalized domain name support. As emails are important, the build is now in [testing] and I will wait a few days before moving it to [extra]. Feedback is welcome! Cheers. -- Gaetan

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[arch-general] Viewing changelogs for packages
by Divan Santana 16 Feb '11

16 Feb '11

Hi, I'd like to view the change logs of new packages when new updates are available. I see pacman -Qc would display a changelog of a package installed. It seems that 95% of the packages(on my system anyway) don't have a changelog. Is pacman -Qc supposed to show upstream changelogs for a package or is it really for arch specific changes to a package? Is there plans to include changelogs in packages more in future? How do other users follow the changelog of particular package? I suppose just visit upstream package site's website and read what's new? -- Divan Santana

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[arch-general] Keyboard AND/OR Mouse issue (OR Xorg)
by Nicolás Adamo 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

Hi all! I'm glad to use Arch; and it's my first post in here. I've an Asus Eee PC 1201HA which doesn't appear in the ArchWiki; but reading a mix of another Eee's I could make it work fairly good; although there's one issue left. To begin with, it's "special" features which need extra packages are: -Intel GMA500 graphics with POULSBO driver. (Say no more... someday there will be AMD netbooks easily available in Argentina) -Synaptics Keypad (xf86-input-synaptics) -Can't remember the brand of the HD, bur it needs to set APM in zero so it stops parking randomly. -Some APM package so the netbook manages power more efficiently and some other package to recognize function keys. "Fn" key PLUS other things work ok. The issue is that whenever I'm writting, regardless of what application I'm working in, there's some sort of random "paste" of some signal text. Examples are: "MouseNavigationClick"; "GoogleSearch" if there's an open firefox, etc. I have no certain evidence, but I suspect it's when some of my fingers touch the mousepad. Example of what I see: $ pacman -S k3... and suddenly it comes out: $ pacman -S k3SignalSlotMouseb Understandable right? I suspect it's something to do with Xorg.conf, although the problem was there even when that file didn't exist. The actual xorg.conf is the one on the wiki for poulsbo; it doesn't have any mention to Mouse or keyboard. If anyone had a similar problem, any suggestion would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Nicolás PD: From ArchWiki: Build and Install from AUR (xorg 1.9) Build and install the following packages in this exact order 1)psb-firmware <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31993> 2)psb-kmod <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31992> 3)libdrm-poulsbo <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31991> 4)xpsb-glx <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31994> 5)xorg-x11-drv-psb <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31995>. Configure xorg.conf To tell Xorg to use this driver, change the Driver line in |/etc/X11/xorg.conf| to read as: Driver "psb" You can also try adding a couple options to try improving acceleration or stability: with: Option "ShadowFB" "true" and possibly: Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" Cross fingers and restart X.

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[arch-general] Ghost / Daniel Griffiths packages in [community]
by Jelle van der Waa 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

Sadly Ghost resigned as TU, he has done a good job and I thank him again for all his hard work. But there are still much packages left in [community] which he owns, therefore I like to see these packages adopted or moved to [unsupported] . Here is a link with all his packages, i already adopted some but he is also still listed as maintainer there. http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&arch=&repo=&q=&maintainer=dgriffit… Btw, shouldn't his account be removed? greetings, -- Jelle van der Waa

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[arch-general] How best to downgrade gcc to 4.4 or 4.3?
by David C. Rankin 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

Guys, After running into a gcc 4.5.2 segfault, the trinity developer suggested a test to downgrade gcc to 4.4 or 4.3 and see if the gcc issue and issue concerning iccconfig.cpp go away. Looking through my old packages, the earliest I can find is 4.5.1. How best to downgrade?... and will I break everything if I do? My thought was just to pull the ABS pkgbuild and change pkgver back to 4.4.x, but I don't know if this will miss any patches, etc.. that may have been in place for earlier versions that are no longer there. Is there any old archive for pkgbuilds that would have an old gcc 4.4 or 4.3 in it? (obviously, if I knew the answers -- I wouldn't ask :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] netconf network configuration management system
by Dieter Plaetinck 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

anyone ever looked at http://netconf.alioth.debian.org/ ? looks interesting. I know a bunch of us are working on network management tools (like netcfg and replacements for it), but that one seems to have a good philosophy and should be distro independent. Dieter

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[arch-general] [signoff] udev-166-2
by Tobias Powalowski 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Hi guys. upstream release: udev 166 ======== Bugfixes. please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Packages with update-desktop-database issues
by Matthias Dienstbier 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Hi, I recently found that wine doesn't run update-desktop-database (FS#22882) but that's not the only package with this issue. I tested all my installed packages with this command: for i in $(grep -Rl 'MimeType=.*/.*' /usr/share/applications/*); do pkg= $(LANG=C pacman -Qo "$i"); grep -L update-desktop-database /var/lib/pacman/local/$(echo $pkg | cut -d\ -f5)-$(echo $pkg | cut -d\ -f6)/install; done The result was that at least these packages don't run update-desktop-database although they install Mime associations: extra/chromium extra/evolution extra/mplayer extra/openjdk6 extra/qt extra/sound-juicer community/mplayer-vaapi community/shotwell community/virtualbox community/wine There are probably many more broken packages which I don't have installed. I tried to get these via pkgfile but didn't succeed. I really wonder why namcap doesn't do any checks on this. -- Matthias Dienstbier

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[arch-general] Package deletion request
by D. Can Celasun 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

I've adopted, updated and reuploaded the "ejecter"[1] package as "indicator-ejecter"[2] to follow the general naming convention regarding Ayatana packages [3] . Can someone please delete the original "ejecter" package? [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20493 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46497 [3] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=99746&p=1 Thanks.

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[arch-general] xf86-video-ati, xbrightness and KMS bug
by Fess 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Hi guys. I've switched to xf86-video-ati from fgrlx and have some troubles with changing brightness level. xbrightness tells me: "No outputs have backlight property". With fgrlx it worked like a charm. If anyone have a solution - it will be great. P.S. My keyboard dead now, so i have to use discrete, and have no FN buttons. I have asus x61s. Video: Ati Radeon HD4570 and enabled KMS. Without KMS X won't start. Kernel: 2.6.37-5 Driver: 6.14.0-1 xorg.conf.d file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/338214/ -- With best wishes or hundreds of hate.

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[arch-general] util-linux 2.19 release
by Dave Reisner 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Attached is a changelog and a PKGBUILD for the recently released util-linux 2.19. Changes I've made to the PKGBUILD: - name change: the project is once again called util-linux. I've updated the conflicts accordingly, and removed the ancient reference to linux32. I think its worth keeping the versioned conflict with e2fsprogs. - remove install scriptlet: this info file is no longer provided - use autogen.sh script instead of manually invoking autotools - remove --enable-rdev flag. this has been non-existant since 2.17 - no need to rm stuff in package() -- these files are no longer part of util-linux Other thoughts: If we build this with --enable-libmount-mount, we can do away with /etc/mtab and make it a symlink to /proc/self/mounts. It is, however, marked as experimental in the release notes. I've been running the -git version of util-linux for about a month now, and have had no problems with low level functionality e.g. booting or mounting. thanks, dave

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[arch-general] gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '11

13 Feb '11

Guys, Has anyone else experienced a segmentation fault with the current gcc? I received the following: In file included from /home/david/tbld/kdebase/kcontrol/konq/fontopts.cpp:387:0: /home/david/tbld/kdebase/src/kcontrol/konq/fontopts.moc: In member function virtual void KonqFontOptions::load(bool): /home/david/tbld/kdebase/src/kcontrol/konq/fontopts.moc:136:93: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See <http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions. From the error, I take it this is a gcc issue and I'll submit it there, but I wanted to see if anyone else had seen it (or something like it) and what, if anything, else the Arch devs would like to see on the issue. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.28-4
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Feb '11

13 Feb '11

Latest LTS kernel is in testing, - rebuild against latest binutils/glibc please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] streamtuner2 - python developers please have a look
by Andreas Radke 12 Feb '11

12 Feb '11

I'd like to replace streamtuner with streamtuner2 in extra. But there's one major bug that is a stopper to me. http://sourceforge.net/projects/streamtuner2/forums/forum/1173108/topic/377… Upstream is aware of it but seems unable to fix it. I know we have some python coders around. Maybe you can have a look at it. -Andy

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Vi package
by David Campbell 11 Feb '11

11 Feb '11

Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of 2011-02-10 17:12:54 -0500: > Is the current vi package actually usable for an install by someone more > familiar with it? Yes, I have used it a few times, and prefer it over nano. -- David Campbell

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[arch-general] Laptop beeps after resuming from suspension
by Thomas Dean 11 Feb '11

11 Feb '11

Hi folks, I have an encounter with a small but annoying problem. After typing pm-suspend and then resuming my laptop, it sometimes beeps, which never happens if I haven't ever suspend it. For example, when I type too much backspace in VIM, it beeps; when I push the shutdown button, it beeps; when I type Page Down button at the end of the text, it beeps, too. Could you please tell me how to shut its beeping? Thanks, Thomas

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[arch-general] A repo-add replacement?
by Magnus Therning 11 Feb '11

11 Feb '11

I've noticied that repo-add will blindly overwrite the entry of an already added package with whatever you point it to. Even if the existing entry is for a version that is newer. It basically means that "repo-add repo.db.tar.gz *.pkg.tar.xz" doesn't work that well :-( Is there some other tool for building a a repo db that doesn't follow my instructions so blindly? ;-) /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] glib2 2.28 from testing
by Ng Oon-Ee 11 Feb '11

11 Feb '11

On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 00:52 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > Hi, > i was a bit to excited by the new gtk3 released and i moved it to > testing without realizing that the new application lookup that comes > with it would break gnome 2.32 handling applications badly. > > Please revert back to core/extra with pacman -Syuu if you managed to > upgrade. > Sorry to ask a simple question, but the recommendation to revert is for glib2 or gtk3?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Vi package
by Loui Chang 11 Feb '11

11 Feb '11

On Wed 09 Feb 2011 11:23 -0500, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: > Hi, > > I was looking at FS#20778 and was wondering what we should do with it. > > While it is true that the "traditional vi" is buggy and not user > friendly. It does not seems that BusyBox is a good alternative. > > There are options here: > > 1) Statu quo > Pro : > * Support for multi-byte character encodings like UTF-8 > * Small size > Cons : > * Did I said that it is buggy ? > * Use of this old software in the installer may give a strange > impression to new users as they are faced with an editor from the > '70 on a distro where everything is up to date. > * Appears to be no longer be updated upstream. > > Opinions? I'd say stick with the status quo. I don't find anything too wrong with the traditional vi. There's the file size and line length limit and those aren't really that bad. The wide terminal issue has been worked around by changing the config header. If you want to do heavy editing other programs are more appropriate in our modern age. Vi is more appropriate for light editing like when doing installation or configuration. Are other bugs that you mention documented somewhere? I'm interested in learning about them. If you can use vim you probably should be able to use vi without too much difficulty. I guess you could argue that having two basic editors (vi and nano) is unnecessary, vi is usually expected to be on a basic system, and nano just bugs me. :D

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Vi package
by Marek Otahal 10 Feb '11

10 Feb '11

On Thursday 10 of February 2011 17:59:26 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:52:16 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 17:24 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > >> we did had vi being a stripped vim package in the past. We got rid of > >> it > >> because upstream vim started to not helping arch users because "it > >> was > >> broken". That impression was given by our users who didn't understand > >> that python and other crap that vim support is in vim package and not > >> in vi. > >> > >> now the same situation is now. Some users don't understand that vi is > >> nvi and what they want is in vim. > > > > I don't think we should go back to a fucked vim package with /etc/virc > > like we had it in the past. We switched from that to nvi, which fucked > > up files if they contained unicode stuff (it would just segfault in the > > middle of a save operation, leaving you with a broken file). > > After that, we decided to go for busybox, which works fairly well as vi, > > is maintained, but doesn't do anything that looks like vim. > > > > IMHO vi is totally useless on most systems. I prefer to uninstall it and > > do ln -s vim /usr/bin/vi instead. Users who complain about vi being too > > limited should do that too. > > I wonder the same. I cannot imagine why anybody would want to use vi. > Personally I would not mind if nano was the only interactive editor in > [core]. But keeping the current busybox vi is also fine. Hello, first, I apologize for off-topic, but i seek help on vim. Reading this thread I decided I want to learn how to get more from vim, so I started with vimtutor. So far I ran into two issues that were incompatible with the vimtutor, *) 7G moves you to line 7, I had to do 7gg instead *) " Lesson 5.3: SELECTING TEXT TO WRITE ** To save part of the file, type v motion :w FILENAME ** 1. Move the cursor to this line. 2. Press v and move the cursor to the fifth item below. Notice that the text is highlighted. 3. Press the : character. At the bottom of the screen :'<,'> will appear. 4. Type w TEST , where TEST is a filename that does not exist yet. Verify that you see :'<,'>w TEST before you press <ENTER>. 5. Vim will write the selected lines to the file TEST. Use :!dir or !ls to see it. Do not remove it yet! We will use it in the next lesson. "...this doesn't work for me, I switch to visual mode, after : the '<,'> doesn't appear though. Can somebody enlighten me, is this behavior -some config in vim -- where and how can I set it? -mistakes in the tutorial (could be updated) -mistakes in vim Many thanks, mark the vimmer :) -- Marek Otahal :o)

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[arch-general] trinity pkgbuild: rewrite to dl svn - Use fixed svn rev or latest?
by David C. Rankin 10 Feb '11

10 Feb '11

Guys, I'm rewriting a set trinity pkgbuilds to download the trinity/<module> code in the pkgbuild instead of using the existing source in the local copy of the complete trinity svn tree. This will also allow the packages to be built in an archroot and get around the empty src problem I was having with makechrootpkg using the code in the existing tree. My PKGBUILD question is can I use the latest svn revision to build from, or do I need to use a fixed svn revision for $pkgver? The examples I've looked at do something like: pkgver=123456 <snip> build() { cd $srcdir msg "Connecting to $_svntrunk SVN server...." if [ -d $_svnmod/.svn ]; then (cd $_svnmod && svn up -r $pkgver) else svn co $_svntrunk --config-dir ./ -r $pkgver $_svnmod fi <snip> I want to vary this to use the latest revision instead of a fixed revision: pkgver=123456 <snip> build() { cd ${srcdir} msg "Connecting to SVN server...." if [ -d ${_svn_module}/.svn ]; then (cd ${_svn_module} && svn up) [[ $? -eq 0 ]] || _co_failed=1 else (svn co $_svn_trunk ${_svn_module}) [[ $? -eq 0 ]] || _co_failed=1 fi cd ${_svn_module} pkgver=$(getsvnrev) <snip> Is this OK, or should I avoid using the latest version to prevent potential inconsistencies? Also, if you see anything else that will bite me, let me know. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Fwd: [arch-dev] [signoff] ppp-2.4.5-2
by Dave Reisner 10 Feb '11

10 Feb '11

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:26:29PM -0500, Eric Bélanger wrote: > Forwarding to public ML. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Stéphane Gaudreault <stephane(a)archlinux.org> > Date: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM > Subject: [arch-dev] [signoff] ppp-2.4.5-2 > To: arch-dev(a)archlinux.org > > > * Rebuild of old package > * Tidy up PKGBUILD > * Fix build error with recent kernel > * Fix permissions on libs > > Please signoff both as I do not run this pkg. > Thanks > > Stéphane I recall last time there was a new build of ppp around, it came down to user signoffs. In case it comes down to that again, I can still connect to my VPN, so I'll sign off for x86_64. dave

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[arch-general] xinitrc.d framework
by Yclept Nemo 10 Feb '11

10 Feb '11

I hacked an "xinitrc.d framework". The details are at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc.d_Framework. I'm only one person, so I'd appreciate any comments.

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[arch-general] Package update : hplip 3.11.1
by Rémy Oudompheng 10 Feb '11

10 Feb '11

HPLIP 3.11.1 was released several days ago : it includes support for new printers and scanning support for several printers (e.g. the one I bought last week, HP Deskjet 2050). I thought the package was not very critical so that I could update it directly in [extra]. I can at least print and scan (hp-scan still doesn't work with my printer, but scanimage does). Now you know who you can blame if your printer suddenly stops working at next update. -- Rémy.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] makepkg bug with epoch code
by Ng Oon-Ee 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 20:52 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/02/11 20:46, Allan McRae wrote: > > Have not had time to look into this, but I get this error with the > > kernel26 PKGBUILD in Arch Linux [core] repo: > > > > umm.. wrong list :P > Allan broke it!

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[arch-general] Crazy devs....
by Ng Oon-Ee 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

I saw a pidgin update (2.7.10) and while downloading I thought I'd check the changelog. Go to pidgin.im, and the most recent version is 2.7.9. Its official, Arch Linux devs are faster than upstream! Shout-out to Ionut Biru and indeed to all the devs who make Arch Linux great =)

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[arch-general] Trinity on Arch - I need a mentor
by David C. Rankin 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

Guys, My project to develop PKGBUILDs for Trinity on Arch has made good progress, but I have hit a couple of snags where I could really use an experienced mentor who is good with complex package builds on Arch. I have a current status on the wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity I'll do the heavy lifting, I just need someone to point me in the right direction and bounce ideas off of. Anybody interested in looking over the status and helping move me off high-center? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.

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[arch-general] makechrootpkg - not using cmake environment from PKGBUILD - help?
by David C. Rankin 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

Guys, I am having 2 difficulties building in my archroot environment. I have created the archroot in /home/david/chbld/root. I have managed to build trinity-qt3, trinity-pyqt3 and trinity-tqtinterface in the archroot, but now when I start building packages that rely on the installed package environment, I am encountering errors: (1) The pkgbuilds use exports to set the cmake environment. eg.: export CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/opt/qt export CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/opt/qt/include:/opt/qt/include/tqt this works fine in the virtualbox clean environment, but fails in the mkarchroot. For example, building trinity-arts: [100%] Building CXX object qtmcop/CMakeFiles/qtmcop-shared.dir/qiomanager.cc.o cd /build/src/arts-bld/qtmcop && /usr/bin/c++ -Dqtmcop_shared_EXPORTS -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fPIC -I/build/src/arts-bld/qtmcop -I/build/src/arts-bld/mcop -o CMakeFiles/qtmcop-shared.dir/qiomanager.cc.o -c /build/src/arts-bld/qtmcop/qiomanager.cc In file included from /build/src/arts-bld/qtmcop/qiomanager.cc:23:0: /build/src/arts-bld/qtmcop/qiomanager.h:33:22: fatal error: tqobject.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [qtmcop/CMakeFiles/qtmcop-shared.dir/qiomanager.cc.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/build/src/arts-bld' make[1]: *** [qtmcop/CMakeFiles/qtmcop-shared.dir/all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/src/arts-bld' make: *** [all] Error 2 Aborting... tqobject.h is right where it should be in the rw chroot structure: 20:20 providence:~/chbld/tbld/trinity-arts> l ~/chbld/copy/opt/qt/include/tqt/tqobject.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1139 Feb 8 17:49 /home/david/chbld/copy/opt/qt/include/tqt/tqobject.h The PKGBUILD I'm attempting to use is here in full: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/arch/svn/dependencies/arts/PKGBUIL… Why is makechrootpkg not respecting the cmake environment variable for CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH? (2) The archroot isn't handling dependencies from the custom local repository requiring that packages be manually installed with makechrootpkg -r <chrootdir> -I <package> I'm a bit bewildered here. (happens) I have created the chroot repo in ~/chbld/root/chrepo and used repo-add to create the index: 20:49 providence:~/chbld> ls -1 ~/chbld/root/chrepo/ chrepo.db chrepo.db.tar.gz chrepo.db.tar.gz.old trinity-pyqt3-3.18.1-9-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-qt3-3.3.8-20-i686.pkg.tar.xz trinity-tqtinterface-9999-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz I've added the entry to ~/chbld/root/etc/pacman.conf: <snip> [core] Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist # mkarchroot repo [chrepo] Server = file:///chrepo [extra] Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist [community] Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist <snip> The repository index is read during the makechrootpkg call is for all things -- looks fine: 18:51 providence:~/chbld/root/home> sudo mkarchroot -u /home/david/chbld/root/ :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date chrepo 1.0K 8.7M/s 00:00:00 [#####################################] 100% extra is up to date community 427.8K 586.7K/s 00:00:01 [#####################################] 100% :: Starting full system upgrade... there is nothing to do But when a PKGBUILD lists a package in chrepo as a dependency, the build fails with: 17:23 providence:~/chbld/tbld/trinity-tqtinterface> sudo makechrootpkg -r /home/david/chbld ==> Making package: trinity 9999-1 (Tue Feb 8 23:23:28 UTC 2011) ==> Checking Runtime Dependencies... ==> Installing missing dependencies... error: 'trinity-qt3': could not find or read package ==> ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies. Build failed, check /home/david/chbld/copy/build Any reason makechroot is not installing dependencies from the local chrepo stand out? Thanks for any help you can provide on either issue. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.

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[arch-general] awn-notification-daemon
by Simon Stoakley 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Hi all, I'm having problems with the awn notification daemon recently. It was working fine up untill recently. I have managed to get it working again by downgrading all of the recent gstreamer update, but wont be able to look into it any further until later on today. The only other thing I have tried is to just downgrade gstreamer-python on it's own I'm not sure if this is a problem unique to me, an Arch problem, or an upstream one, but any ideas/pointers are appreciated Running x86_64 with an otherwise up to date system, gnome desktop & compiz. Problem occurs with, stock, -ck and -pf kernels *********** CLI output when awn called from CLI ** (avant-window-navigator:4068): DEBUG: Spawned awn-applet[4233] for "notification-daemon.desktop", UID: 1297152677, XID: 60817461 GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_debug_add_log_function: assertion `func != NULL' failed aborting... ** (avant-window-navigator:4068): DEBUG: Spawned awn-applet[4236] for "notification-daemon.desktop", UID: 1297152677, XID: 60817461 GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_debug_add_log_function: assertion `func != NULL' failed............. [snip] *********** awn-notification-daemon working: gstreamer0.10-0.10.31-1 gstreamer0.10-base-0.10.31-1 gstreamer0.10-bad-0.10.20-1 gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins-0.10.20-1 gstreamer0.10-base-plugins-0.10.31-1 gstreamer0.10-good-0.10.26-1 gstreamer0.10-good-plugins-0.10.26-1 gstreamer0.10-python-0.10.18-3 gstreamer0.10-ugly-0.10.16-2 gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins-0.10.16-2 awn-notification-daemon not working: gstreamer0.10-0.10.32-1 gstreamer0.10-base-0.10.32-2 gstreamer0.10-bad-0.10.21-1 gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins-0.10.21-1 gstreamer0.10-base-plugins-0.10.32-2 gstreamer0.10-good-0.10.27-1 gstreamer0.10-good-plugins-0.10.27-1 gstreamer0.10-python-0.10.21-1 gstreamer0.10-ugly-0.10.17-1 gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins-0.10.17-1 Thanks Simon --

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[arch-general] Howto properly set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /opt/trinity/lib from PKGBUILD (postbuild)
by David C. Rankin 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Guys, After building trinity-kdelibs, I need to create an entry and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /opt/trinity/lib. I manually created: '/etc/ld.so.conf.d/trinity.conf' containing "/opt/trinity/lib" and then ran ldconfig. That worked. What I need to know is how to properly do this from the kdelibs PKBUILD. I can do it by creating the file in $pkgdir, but is there a standard way to do it? Also, what about calling ldconfig after install? Is there a standard (post-install) snippet to add? Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.

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[arch-general] vbox PUEL: copy/pate Arch host - Arch guest not working: VBoxclient-all started
by David C. Rankin 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Guys, I have setup Arch in virtualbox to provide a clean environment for the trinity build. Xorg+fluxbox for the environment. One problem I'm having is copy/paste between the host and guest does not work. I have the LinuxAdditions installed and shared folders (mounted uid,gid), X, flux, and copy/paste within the guest works fine, but I can't get it to copy/paste from host-to-guest or guest-to-host. xorg.conf is: 22:18 alchemy:~> cat cnf/vbox/linux-guest/xorg.conf # VirtualBox generated configuration file # based on /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Device" "/dev/vboxguest" Option "CorePointer" "yes" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "VirtualBox Virtual Output" VendorName "Oracle Corporation" EndSection Section "Device" BoardName "VirtualBox Graphics" Driver "vboxvideo" Identifier "Device[0]" VendorName "Oracle Corporation" EndSection Section "Screen" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" EndSection ~/.xinitrc is: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/VBoxClient-all & startfluxbox No display manager installed. I've been through https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VirtualBox and updated a few areas, but I still couldn't find the trick for making host/guest copy/paste work. Anybody know a way to get this working. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] AIF talk at Fosdem 2011
by Dieter Plaetinck 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

I gave an AIF (related) talk at Fosdem this year. For more info, video and slides: http://dieter.plaetinck.be/can_we_build_a_simple_cross-distribution_install… Dieter

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