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[arch-general] smbmount: command not found
by Strika 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

Greetings to all, When i try to mount a remote Windows share with smbmount i have this error: smbmount: command not found. yaourt -Qi samba Name : samba Version : 3.2.7-1 URL : http://www.samba.org Licenses : GPL3 Groups : None Provides : None Depends On : db>=4.7 popt libcups acl libldap smbclient=3.2.7 libcap heimdal>=1.2-1 pam fam gnutls>=2.4.1 tdb=3.2.7 Optional Deps : None Required By : None Conflicts With : None Replaces : None Installed Size : 55671.00 K Packager : Tobias Powalowski <tpowa(a)archlinux.org> Architecture : i686 Build Date : Wed 14 Jan 2009 08:51:31 AM CET Install Date : Sun 08 Feb 2009 09:14:35 PM CET Install Reason : Explicitly installed Install Script : No Description : Tools to access a server's filespace and printers via SMB Does someone knows what the problem is? Thanks, Nebojša Stričević

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Re: [arch-general] new here and need some help, please...
by Jeffrey Parke 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

You shouldn't really have to mess with that file. Your repository list is kept in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist. Maybe you could explain a bit more of what environment in particular you want. ----- Original message ----- Hi, I am very new to AL. I heard about it today and just finished the basic installation. Now, I am ready to get to the GUI. The problem I am having is where to find the repositories for the /etc/pacman.conf file? It would be helpful if someone explained how to place the repos in the .conf file? I am using the Beginners Guide, and am starting to have a little trouble. Thanks, Preston

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[arch-general] new here and need some help, please...
by Preston C. 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

Hi, I am very new to AL. I heard about it today and just finished the basic installation. Now, I am ready to get to the GUI. The problem I am having is where to find the repositories for the /etc/pacman.conf file? It would be helpful if someone explained how to place the repos in the .conf file? I am using the Beginners Guide, and am starting to have a little trouble. Thanks, Preston

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.4-1
by Tobias Powalowski 08 Feb '09

08 Feb '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version fixed: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13146 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13150 please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] imagemagick without X dependency
by Damjan Georgievski 08 Feb '09

08 Feb '09

Is it possible to have an imagemagick package without it depending on xt and libx11? -- damjan

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[arch-general] Arch Linux at the Southern California Linux Expo
by Joe Smith 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

Greetings, The Southern California Linux Expo, a community run conference taking place in Los Angeles on February 20th to 22nd, is offering a 50% discount to the Arch Linux community. When you go to register[1], just enter the promo code: ARCH7. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! Joe Smith Southern California Linux Expo [1] https://socallinuxexpo.org/reg7/

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[arch-general] Perhaps a bug on the dependences of KDE 4.2
by Christian Leng 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

Greetings to all. Last night I tried to install KDE on my system. I had not had any version of KDE installed before. I simply used "pacman -S kde" to install the complete KDE from the REPO. Of course, "kde" was a package group: [rookie@DROWNWESTLAKE ~]$ pacman -Qg kde kde kdeaccessibility kde kdeadmin kde kdeartwork kde kdebase kde kdebase-runtime kde kdebase-workspace kde kdeedu kde kdegames kde kdegraphics kde kdelibs kde kdemultimedia kde kdenetwork kde kdepim kde kdepimlibs kde kdeplasma-addons kde kdesdk kde kdetoys kde kdeutils kde kdewebdev After the installation, I edited /etc/rc.conf and added the kdm to the daemons. Then I was desperated to find that KDM couldn't be launched correctly(but "startkde" worked well). A message box was displayed on the screen, saying "can't open file: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/archlinux-soft-grey". Then I searched the packages and installed the package 'archlinux-themes-kdm' and everything went well. It seems that the default kdm theme is set to 'archlinux-soft-grey' but the proper package can't be retrieved and installed automatically, i.e. a bug on the dependences of kde.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Official Installation guide needs your help!
by Grigorios Bouzakis 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 03:33:49PM -0500, Dusty Phillips wrote: > 2009/2/6 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com>: > > Hey guys, > > I wanted to make you aware of the following: > > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13140 > > > > The "Official Installation Guide" is severely outdated (the wiki page > > still mentions "i686 optimized"). > > As one of the two people who was once on Arch's only attempt at an > official documentation team, and as one of several people who > contributed many of the first articles to the wiki, I have this to say > on the topic: > > Drop the official install guide. > > We know our wiki is well-maintained and well organized, and it seems > to do that by itself without much developer interference. Go wiki! > Originally, when we first set the wiki up Dennis, Judd, and I felt > that the official install guide should be more... well... official. > But its out of date, its always out of date, and there are wiki texts > that are not out of date. Now, seeing how our wiki experiment has > exceeded our hopes and expectations, I'd say that the install guide > (drop the 'official') should be community maintained as are all our > wiki pages. It will improve. When its time for a release, "somebody > official" should read through it, ensure its accurate, convert it to > plaintext and put it on the iso. > > Dusty I agree with the above for the most part. The only "problems" with the Beginners Guide, which is the only up to date and worth of being included anywhere guide is that its too "wikified". eg. references "go here" with a link to another wiki page. It would definately take less time to convert it into something less dependant on the wiki than refactoring the official guide. Also theres references to eg. like Loui said yaourt which should probably go (?) Also the official guide is linked from all over the place. archlinux.org wiki.archlinux.org + its part of the iso. Should those change to link the beginners guide? Should the Beginners Guide change its name to the Arch Linux Handbook for example? FTR I had always been in favour of maintaining 1 guide from the beginning. -- Greg what to do and what not to do in public :o) http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php

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[arch-general] FSC Amilo Pro 2030 - Fan control
by Strika 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

Greetings to all, I found a way to control fan speed on FSC Amilo Pro 2030. I found some articles on Ubuntu forum, and I used some stuff from arch wiki. Should I put solution on forum or on wiki, maybe? I will anyway put it on my blog. I'm new in this way of contributing, so I'm asking this so I would now what to do with similar stuff in future. Thanks for answer, Nebojša Stričević

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[arch-general] hwdetect with kernel upgrade?
by Shridhar Daithankar 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Hello, A long time ago, I posted that with kernel upgrade, the module insertion hangs till I hit enter. I ran hwdetect and updated the modules array, sans the standard acpi modules and it now works reliably every time. It can boot unattended now. AFAIK, the module-names and functionality is prone to changes from kernel to kernel. Should we automatically run hwdetect or advise users to check it in case of kernel upgrade? -- Shridhar

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.3-1
by Tobias Powalowski 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version - changed to new btusb - removed buggy-acpi-patch please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] lvm2 2.02.44-1 & device-mapper 1.02.30-1
by Eric Bélanger 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Hi, Updated packages for lvm2 and device-mapper are now in testing. The changes are: * lvm2 2.02.44-1 * Upstream update * Added bash depends * device-mapper 1.02.30-1 * Upstream update * Added readline depends * Added pkgconfig file Please signoff. Two signoff for i686 would be nice has I don't use lvm2 on my i686 system so I could only do some simple sanity tests. As very few devs uses this, signoffs from users would be appreciated. Eric

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[arch-general] Having trouble compileing a2ps
by Baho Utot 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

Using: gcc version 4.3.2 default build falgs in makepkg pkgname=a2ps pkgver=4.13c pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="a2ps is an Any to PostScript filter /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DSYSCONFFILE=\"/etc/a2ps/a2ps.cfg\" -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I. -march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -MT hashtab.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/hashtab.Tpo -c -o hashtab.lo hashtab.c libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DSYSCONFFILE=\"/etc/a2ps/a2ps.cfg\" -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I. -march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -MT hashtab.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/hashtab.Tpo -c hashtab.c -o hashtab.o mv -f .deps/hashtab.Tpo .deps/hashtab.Plo /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DSYSCONFFILE=\"/etc/a2ps/a2ps.cfg\" -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I. -march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -MT path-concat.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/path-concat.Tpo -c -o path-concat.lo path-concat.c libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DSYSCONFFILE=\"/etc/a2ps/a2ps.cfg\" -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I. -march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -MT path-concat.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/path-concat.Tpo -c path-concat.c -o path-concat.o In file included from path-concat.c:30: /usr/include/string.h:234: error: expected identifier or '(' before 'void' /usr/include/string.h:234: error: expected ')' before '(' token make[3]: *** [path-concat.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/srv/http/Build/BUILD.i686/extra/a2ps/src/a2ps-4.13/lib' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/srv/http/Build/BUILD.i686/extra/a2ps/src/a2ps-4.13/lib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/srv/http/Build/BUILD.i686/extra/a2ps/src/a2ps-4.13' make: *** [all] Error 2 ==> ERROR: Build Failed. Is this a gcc issue?

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[arch-general] Lancelot in KDE 4.2
by Leonid Grinberg 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Hi all, It appears that Lancelot (http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org/main) is broken in Arch. Running "lancelot" opens no menu. According to [1], this is caused by a lack of /usrshare/dbus-1/services/org.kde.lancelot.service However, I have that file in the directory. Moreover, I discovered that lancelot seems to be provided by two different packages. One of them is "kdeplasma-addons". The other is "lancelot". Both, I think, are maintained by Pierre. Reinstalling kdeplasma-addons doesn't seem to fix the problem, and installing lancelot without --force is impossible, since it tries to create files that are already there (this is despite the fact that lancelot and kdeplasma-addons are not marked as conflicting with each other). If you do include --force, it gives you missing library errors, but this seems like a bad approach anyway. Does anyone know what can be done about this? -- Leonid Grinberg [1] http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org/faq#menu-doesnt-open

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[arch-general] State of bluetooth (bluez4 in Arch)
by Damjan Georgievski 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

What's the status about the bluez4 packages in Arch? Especially since the new KDE4 should be released soon. Also the new kdebluetooth4 is out [1], and it seems to require bluez4 and "the latest kdebase4-workspace package is needed (solid-bluetooth with bluez4 support)" I've continued to maintan my bluez4 packages here [2] but further work is needed by KDE and Gnome packagers to integrate this. Also .. does anyone know if obex-data-server and the bluez project obexd are interchangeable? [1] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kdebluetooth4?content=84761 [2] http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth/ -- damjan

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[arch-general] Garbled Text in KDE 4.2
by Leonid Grinberg 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hi everyone, I have recently upgraded to KDE 4.2 (vanilla, not kdemod) and have noticed an odd glitch. Every once in a while, with no pattern I can discern, the font in the title bar of a window will have garbled text in it [1]. When I took that screenshot and was about to save it, I noticed that the file chooser dialogue also had the glitch, as did the text in the dialogue [2]. The fonts are Sans Serif 10 bold. Does anyone know why this would happen? -- Leonid [1] http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/998/garbledzr9.png [2] http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2577/garbled2sw8.png

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[arch-general] kernel oops after recent upgrade
by Ryan Sims 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Just upgraded to kernel26 2.6.28.2-1, and now I get an oops when trying to mount my ntfs drive at boot. After boot, I could manually mount everything else, but "mount /mnt/ntfs" hangs unkillable. Since /mnt/ntfs was first in fstab, nothing else mounted; I have since commented out that line and everything's fine. Attached relevant kernel dmesg...can anyone shed any light on this, or should I open a bug? -- Ryan W Sims

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Re: [arch-general] Garbled Text in KDE 4.2
by Robert Howard 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Have you tried playing with the GlyphCache settings to the driver? This used to be a solution to some similar troubles in the past. -----Original Message----- From: Leonid Grinberg <lgrinberg(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:20 PM To: General Discusson about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Garbled Text in KDE 4.2 > This seems to be a bug with the nvidia drivers. You might want to try 180.25. Hmm, it seems to only be in AUR? Do you know when the nvidia package in the repos will be updated? -- Leonid

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[arch-general] phonon: gstreamer support will be dropped
by Alberto Gonzalez 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hi, [ This is in response to the thread in arch-devel here: http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2009-January/009971.html ] Regarding gstreamer support in phonon I'd like to add my 2 cents: When you install KDE, you get the xine-phonon backend (and only the xine-phonon backend) by default. If someone wants to use gstreamer he must explicitly install it and then go to KDE control center and choose gstreamer. So it's not so much that you're dropping support for it (it is not supported by default anyway), it's rather the ability for anyone who wants to use it to be able to do it what you're removing. What's the advantage of that? Some people like xine better, some don't. If you use a laptop and care about battery life you have to dislike xine for sure. In KDE3 I had to disable the sound system. In KDE4 I had to switch to gstreamer backend. At least in KDE 4.2 they have fixed this to certain extent (i.e., no more 100's of CPU wakeups per seconds on an idle desktop). However, I encourage you to simply open Dragon player and leave it there idle while looking at powertop (and compare the same while using gstreamer backend). You can also play an mp3 in a phonon-based player and see the difference between xine and gstreamer. By the end of the day, discussing the strengths of each backend is not so interesting. Xine is the default and that's good. But why remove the freedom to change it to gstreamer for those who want it? As far as I know, allowing to use gstreamer doesn't affect in any way to those using xine, does it? Gstreamer has its problems, but it's used by all the gnome people (most Ubuntu/Fedora users and more) so it's can't be that bad. Not as to not allow users to use it if they want to. Thanks, Alberto.

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[arch-general] kernel26 x86_64 without virtio?
by Ingo Becker 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hi, i have noticed that the virtio-* kernel modules for kvm paravirtualization in the kernel26 x86_64 package are missing. They are included in the i686 package but not in the x86_64 version. Whats the reason for that? greets Ingo

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[arch-general] kdebindings 4.2 missing from extra
by Atanas Zhelev 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, it seems kdebindings 4.2 wasn't moved to extra. When upgrading pacman picks kdebindings-4.1.3-1 and that leads to conflicts. (36/36) checking for file conflicts [##################################################################################################] 100% error: could not prepare transaction error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) /usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/applet.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' /usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/data_engine.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-applet.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-dataengine.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings' Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. -- Atanas

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[arch-general] KDE 4.2.0 in [testing]
by Pierre Schmitz 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi everybody, today I uploaded the so called "first try" of 4.2 into [testing]. Those packages are not the final one yet, but damn close. There are only two known upstream showstoppers; which will be fixed by new packages soon. See http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=kde-4.2.0-blocker. On our site only mysql is blocking a release to [extra]: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12798 In addition to this kde-l10n-et seems broken. So please take the chance and check those packages. An update from 4.1 should be quite smooth. And even if you hated KDE 4.1, give 4.2 a try; it really rocks. :-) If you notice any regression, showstopper or problems during the update, please report them. Packages for x86_64 should be available on your favourite mirror soon; Andrea will build i66 packages tomorrow. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre(a)jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

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[arch-general] thunar-thumbnailer
by Marco Antonio Gomez 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Using Openbox + Thunar + Thunar thumbnailer in Arch (completely updated), I noticed that thunar-thumbnailer, since last week, does not generate video thumbnails anymore. AFAIK, the problem is related to a new version of ffmpeg... My system messages show me that ffmpegthumbnailer looks out for a libavcodec.so.51 (lib that used to be provided by ffmpeg package, that was recently replaced by libavcodec.so.52.10.0). But the newer version of ffmpegthumbnailer in community, still looks for libavcodec.so.51. Then... obviously "error while loading shared libraries - no such file of direcrory". I've already tried to create a symbolic link named libavcodec.so.51 pointing to libavcodec.so.52.10.0, and when I try to do that, the ffmpegthumbnailer returns "Error: Could not find video stream" I've also tried to recompile ffmpeg and also ffmped-thumbnailer and all of it's dependencys from the newer versions of each one in AUR, but it was a frustrated attempt. Anybody else reports the same issues? If positive, any workaround to make it work? Regards, Marco Antonio Gomez.

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[arch-general] Staic libraries
by Damjan Georgievski 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Since bugs on http://bugs.archlinux.org/ are too eagerly closed I'll have to ask here. I'm trying to build the latest "tuxonice-userui" since it's required by tuxonice-rc8. The compile of tuxoniceui_fbsplash fails with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfreetype" The last command (the one that fails) is: cc -static userui_core.o fbsplash/userui_fbsplash.o -o tuxoniceui_fbsplash -lmng -lpng -ljpeg -lz -lfreetype -llcms -lm Now, there are /usr/lib/libmng.a /usr/lib/libpng.a /usr/lib/libjpeg.a /usr/lib/libz.a /usr/lib/liblcms.a /usr/lib/libm.a files on my ArchLinux but there's no /usr/lib/libfreetype.a static library. In http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11016 JGC claims: "Static libraries aren't needed to build static binaries. The makefiles contain hardcoded references to the .a files, which is wrong." Now, it's not true that the userui Makefile has a hardcoded reference to the .a file. And I don't see how to build a static binary either? Hints? -- damjan

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[arch-general] consistency in iso naming
by Dieter Plaetinck 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi, I suggest we use the following names: 2009.01-alpha 2009.01-beta 2009.01-1 (official release) (2009.01-2, 2009.01-3 etc subsequent official releases, if required) I think our isos/img's should have such versions in there filenames, instead of using 2009.01 for alpha + beta + official releases. This is useful for: 1) avoiding confusion with iso's. Users are not aware which versions the isos are hosted on dev spaces such as http://dev.archlinux.org/~aaron/archiso/. Hell, even for relengs/devs it can be confusing 2) 1:1 to mapping to version numbers on flyspray. I added some versions on flyspray (2009.01-{alpha,beta,1} etc). imo we need to update iso names as such, so bugs can be reported on the correct versions etc, otherwise it will be mess. This implies a change in archiso. is that okay? PS: i also made a version 2009.04-alpha where we can attach some non-critical tickets to. Dieter

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.2-1
by Tobias Powalowski 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] gstreamer0.10 0.10.21-2 i686
by Baho Utot 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

When trying to compile gstreamer0.10 0.10.21-2 i686 I have this error checking bison version 2.4.1 >= 1.875... Argument "^B^D^A" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at - line 1. current bison/gcc Anyone seen this?

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[arch-general] silent fsck at startup
by wahjava.ml＠gmail.com 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

Hi all, Is there any switch for fsck (during startup) to be somewhat verbose like displaying the progress of filesystem check ? TiA -- Ashish SHUKLA

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] initscripts 2009.01
by Dieter Plaetinck 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Hugo Doria wrote: > Signoff (both) > > -- Hugo > signoff i686. all looks good. Dieter

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[arch-general] Moonlight 1.0
by Amanai 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra? http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Moonlight is an open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight for Unix systems. It's avaible for 32/64 bit! Release Notes Final release of Moonlight 1.0 Support for the Microsoft Media Pack Quick and easy installation of media codecs Several media releate bug fixes I hope one of the dev's like to pick this up.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Divide and Konquer - Splitting KDE packages
by Loui Chang 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 07:35:45PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Best I can do after some initial hacking. Are there any assumptions we > can make based on package name to trim the list so we don't have to > check all PKGBUILDs? > > This is done without a checkout of the full repo, using svn list and svn cat... > > $ ./pkgfind 3ddesktop #first package in the repos > Repo scan complete in 51ms > Package -> 3ddesktop/ > > $ ./pkgfind bash > Repo scan complete in 3809ms > Package -> bash/ > > $ ./pkgfind libpano13 #median package in the repos > Repo scan complete in 44170ms > Package -> libpano13/ > > $ ./pkgfind zsync #2nd to last package in the repos > Repo scan complete in 90997ms > Package -> zsync/ > > These numbers are just going to grow... And even more so when community packages are added... The svn repo needs a restructuring I think.

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Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

-----Original Message----- > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:05:47 +0100 > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 > From: Allan McRae > To: General Discusson about Arch Linux > stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:28:36 +0100 > > > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Moonlight 1.0 > > > From: Amanai > > > To: "General Discusson about Arch Linux" > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:19:55 -0800, Thomas Bohn > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01:25, Thu 22 Jan 09, Amanai wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The final Version from Moonlight 1.0 released on January 20th. > > > > > Will this be avaible in the Archlinux repo's extra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently the SVN version of Moonlight is available via AUR, the > > > > package is called "moon-svn." > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I pick this up. I don't want to build it and upload moonlight for > > > AUR. > > > I don't want to use any packages from AUR. > > > > > > Archlinux have in Extra Repo's > > > > > > flashplugin > > > swfdec > > > gnash > > > libflashsupport > > > > > > it is just missing "moonlight"! > > > > > > > > > > > File a feature request. > > > > In all honesty, I would close this as a "won't fix". If no-one is > motivated enough to make a package for the stable version for this in > the AUR and the community does not then vote for it, the demand is > obviously not high enough for it to be included in the main repos. > > Allan > > > > Hello, I agree perfectly. But it would be the correct way to handle things like that, and would put some noise away from this list. BTW, the new rules for the TUs would even forbid to put it to community without discussion. The devs might have some similar rules for putting something new to extra. Regards Stefan

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[arch-general] howto file missing in intltool
by Lyman 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, I found that the package intltool does not contain the file doc/I18N-HOWTO, which is contained in official release. As this file is supposed to be found locally easily, once it is missing even google can not give out useful hint efficiently. IMHO, this file is vital for the person who is new to gettext/intltool tool-chain (no kidding, more heuristic and important than the manpages). Can anyone here could add this file in next update, please? -- Lyman Li Blog(Chinese): http://lymanrb.blogspot.com Album: http://picasaweb.google.com/lymanrb

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.1-1
by Tobias Powalowski 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version - fixed bugs: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12821 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12816 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12820 please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Question on traceroute/mtr
by Viv Diwakar 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hi all, When I mtr to an IP I'm seeing the last three hops as having the identical IP address, and packet loss of 25%, 40% and 100% respectively. I'm not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly - does that mean the last hop is basically looping on itself three times? Thanks in advance, cheers Viv Diwakar

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[arch-general] Keyboard repeat in KDE 4
by Leonid Grinberg 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, I am experiencing an odd problem with keyboard repeating in KDE. I am running Vanilla KDE 4.1.3 Every once in a while, the keyboard simply stops repeating (by repeating, I mean when I hold a key down, it only sends the keystroke once, so if I hold down "f" it only shows "f" rather than "fffffffffffff"). I have auto-repeat enabled in xorg.conf and the repeat works fine in the virtual terminals. Coupled with this problem is that in systemsettings, the entire configuration for the keyboard is missing. However, in ~/.kde4/share/config/kcminputrc, KeyboardRepeating is set to true. I've also discovered that if I run kcminit, the problem temporarily gets fixed, only to happen again a little while later. Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this? -- Thanks, Leonid Grinberg lgrinberg(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] xscreensaver broken?
by Guus Snijders 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hey all, mabye i'm doing something wrong, but xscreensaver-demo segfaults on my system: $ xscreensaver-demo (xscreensaver-demo:3073): libglade-WARNING **: Could not load support for `gnome': libgthread: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory xscreensaver-demo: 20:45:46: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated xscreensaver-demo: 20:45:46: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated xscreensaver-demo: 20:45:46: Gtk-warning: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated Segmentation fault $ pacman -Q xscreensaver xscreensaver 5.08-1 $ pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libgthread.so /usr/lib/libgthread.so is owned by glib 1.2.10-7 Any ideas? mvg, Guus

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[arch-general] new kernel 2.6.27 or 2.6.28
by Anton Achatz 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, i have a problem after updating to kernel 2.6.27 or 2.6.28. After updating the kernel i am not able to boot the system. The system doesn' t recognize the boot harddisk sda6. the recommendation to set bootdelay = 8 doesnt help. Does someone know what to do. greetings Toni

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[arch-general] Arch Linux Review on DistroWatch
by Hugo Doria 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090119#feature "Conclusion The "keep it simple" philosophy of Arch Linux really shines through in all aspects of this distribution. It lets the user control the system and doesn't do anything unless told to. It has the speed and convenience of binary with the power of source and is very flexible when it comes to optional dependencies. Being a rolling release, the packages are also reasonably up-to-date. Other than the problem with the Intel video driver, I have not had any issues with the quality of the packages. Still, I have to wonder how well a smaller distribution like this can provide overall stability. Perhaps time will tell. It also remains to be seen how well Pacman will perform after installing and removing thousands of packages. Certainly, Arch Linux isn't for everybody, no distribution is, but it sure is plenty of fun and you learn a lot. If you're the kind of person who likes to fiddle and tweak your system, then definitely give it a shot. Once you have your system up and running the way you want, it's very easy to maintain and it feels great. If you've been tempted to try it out, there is a Wiki page listing how it compares to others. As for my dream distribution, Arch Linux comes pretty darn close." Read the page for full review. -- Hugo

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Re: [arch-general] 2.6.28 to core?
by wain 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, Virtualbox modules can't be compiled anymore with 2.6.28. wain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Brauer" <gerhard.brauer(a)web.de> Sent: Wed, January 14, 2009 10:52 Subject:[arch-general] 2.6.28 to core? Hello, seems that all stopper for 2.6.28 are solved. Are there any issues that causes 2.6.28 (and klibc, mkinitcpio) don't went to [core]? Without these the new ISO's couldn't be build... Regards Gerhard ----- End of original message -----

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[arch-general] About ttf-ms-fonts package in extra/
by goodmenzy＠gmail.com 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Hi, Anyone knows anything about ttf-ms-fonts ? `pacman -Ql ttf-ms-fonts ` gives funny result! And the license is another affairs. Being a Linux user, and Archlinux lover, I do not want be sent a lawyer's letter from Micro$oft. Emm, It is strange of that package, the packager name is Archlinux.

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[arch-general] Error with makepkg installing dependency
by Baho Utot 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

When compiling packages using makeworld or my custom script I am getting a number of failures like this: /usr/info/dir exists in both 'glib' and 'gtk' What causes this? Is there a way to fix this without forcing this packages? or better still is there a fix? Thanks

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[arch-general] 2.6.28 to core?
by Gerhard Brauer 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hello, seems that all stopper for 2.6.28 are solved. Are there any issues that causes 2.6.28 (and klibc, mkinitcpio) don't went to [core]? Without these the new ISO's couldn't be build... Regards Gerhard

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[arch-general] Intro + package maintenance
by aashiks 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hi all, Apologies for the long mail but do read on. My name is Aashik and i have been using Arch for the last two days. I was planning to simply try it, but decided to stick with it because i like its simplicity. Only one annoying thing happened to me. I am from India and my mother tongue is Malayalam. I tried to use scim and m17n version of malayalam input methods. There were a few glitches. I noticed that it is out of date and is currently flagged as 'orphan' when you do a package search. To be precise, the following packages. m17n-db,m17n-lib,scim-m17n There have been some commits made in the last few months from a project called SMC ( http://smc.org.in ) which enables phonetic text input in Malayalam via m17n also. I did not file a bug report because it asks everyone not to report outdated packages as bugs.Is anyone actively maintaining i686 these packages ? If not I can do it. I have spare time ( i took some time off from work ) . I don't know a thing about creating packages and things like that. If someone can answer my questions and doubts as they pop up , I can take up this task. Regards Aashik -------------------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] How to change default terminal from xterm
by David Rosenstrauch 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

On my desktop machine, it seems like any time a GUI app needs to launch a console app, the default is to launch it in an xterm window. But as I'm a hardcore KDE user, I'd like to change that default to konsole. Wasn't able to figure out where this setting is to override it, however. "set | grep xterm" didn't turn up much of relevance, and I couldn't see any KDE setting to override it either. Anyone know how to tweak this? Tnx, DR

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[arch-general] Malayalam fonts for Arch
by aashiks 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hi, I understand that there may not be many users who need Malayalam fonts here on this list, but if there are any then there are a set of TTF fonts ( from theep://smc.org.in ) that I have packaged. The PKGBUILD is available at http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23145 These fonts are the default Malayalam fonts in Debian and Fedora. I thought it would be nice to see them on Arch too :) regards, Aashik

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[arch-general] agg - antigrain
by Baho Utot 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

I am posting this here because this package is in extra and is orphaned... Can anyone have a look at this? Antigrain build fails current PKGBUILD from abs, compiled attempt with gcc-4.3 default build flags. Here is the error from my log file make[3]: Entering directory `/srv/http/Build/BUILD.i686/extra/agg/src/agg-2.5/src/platform/X11' /bin/sh ../../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../include -I../../../include -I -g -O2 -c -o libaggplatformX11_la-agg_platform_support.lo `test -f 'agg_platform_support.cpp' || echo './'`agg_platform_support.cpp libtool: compile: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../include -I../../../include -I -g -O2 -c agg_platform_support.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libaggplatformX11_la-agg_platform_support.o libtool: compile: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../include -I../../../include -I -g -O2 -c agg_platform_support.cpp -o libaggplatformX11_la-agg_platform_support.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -I../../../include -I -g -O2 -version-info 2:4:0 -L -o libaggplatformX11.la -rpath /usr/local/lib libaggplatformX11_la-agg_platform_support.lo -lX11 libtool: link: require no space between `-L' and `-o' make[3]: *** [libaggplatformX11.la] Error 1

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[arch-general] Boot error with 2008.12
by Sergi Pons Freixes 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hi all, Thanks to a Xmas present, now I'm the proud owner of a ThinkPad X200T. After been a time flirting with Ubuntu, I'm returning to Arch (in fact, I've never abandoned it, because my home server runs Arch). The X200T doesn't have an optical drive, so I tried the USB install method. First I tried the last "official" release, 2008.06, and it booted perfectly. Unfortunately, as you can see here [1], the kernel included (2.6.24) doesn't fully support the wireless neither the ethernet cards. Then, following the recommendation from [1], I tried the "testing" 2008.12 release. But it doesn't boot. It just shows the message: Boot error. I've checked the md5sum of the img file and the pen drive (dd if=/dev/sdb count=875219 status=noxfer |md5sum) and in both cases it's ok (so, no corrupt img file, and no corrupt pen drive). I've checked the forums and in this post [2] at least two people suffer the same issue, but there is no answer. Any idea about the possible origin of the issue and how to solve it? Regards, Sergi [1] http://itgen.blogspot.com/2008/12/installing-arch-linux-on-lenovo.html [2] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60385

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[arch-general] Pointless to use non-md5 for makepkg INTEGRITY_CHECK
by Aaron Schaefer 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

At the request of the upstream developer, I was attempting to change the md5sums in my tarsnap PKGBUILD (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22963) to use sha256 instead, and ran across a couple of issues. The way makepkg works, when you set INTEGRITY_CHECK in makepkg.conf, those values effect BOTH the generation of the checksums and also the verification upon package compilation. I believe the variable should only effect checksum generation. Validation of the checksums upon compilation should only fail in two cases: 1) There are no checksums listed in the PKGBUILD or 2) One of the listed checksums does not validate against the source The way things are now, it's not feasible to use a non-standard (read non-md5) checksum, because everyone who would like to build the package themselves would either have to alter their own makepkg.conf file, or simply ignore the warning of verification failure. Unless everyone moved to a different standard of checksum at the same time, I don't think it would be realistic for us to expect people to do this. I can't think of a use case where it wouldn't make sense just to verify whatever checksums are listed in the PKGBUILD, and only consult the INTEGRITY_CHECK settings when generating new checksums. This process also led the the discovery of an issue with the AUR code...it seems as though the AUR is hard-coded to check for md5sums only, so if you attempt to upload a package with just a sha256sums line, it will complain and prohibit you from updating the PKGBUILD. Has anyone else ever tried to use a non-standard INTEGRITY_CHECK setting? Is there something here that I'm missing? -- Aaron "ElasticDog" Schaefer

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[arch-general] Microphone issues on ICH7
by Will Siddall 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hey everyone, I've had this great HP laptop for the past 4 years with no need (of course there's always a want) to upgrade. And of all this time, I never had a problem with it, until now. Out of the past 4 years, I've never needed to use my microphone for anything, but lately I've been sent overseas a lot for work and needing to keep in contact, decided to start skype to call back home. That's when I noticed that my microphone didn't work at all. I thought it would be skype, but trying to use gnome-sound-recorder proved that to be wrong. Nothing is coming through. I've tried running 'alsaconf' again, I've tried a huge number of .asoundrc setups, using different microphones, everything that I can imagine. I'm out of ideas, would anyone have anything else I can try? Has anyone run into this problem before? Thanks, Will

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Re: [arch-general] LZMA - in or out?
by Rogutes 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dan McGee (2009-01-12 19:59): > Some non-benefits of LZMA for those that brought up compression of packages > : > $ ./testzip.sh openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-x86_64.pkg.tar > <...snip...> > > Yes, LZMA took nearly 5 minutes to compress this package which gzip > accomplished in 22 seconds. I am replying to a thread in arch-dev-public list, since I haven't got permission to post there. I would like to propose my simple test (note the compression ratio switches): compression: gzip -9 openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar 48,20s user 0,30s system 99% cpu 48,609 total lzma -1 openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar 50,16s user 0,42s system 99% cpu 50,969 total bzip2 -1 openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar 58,37s user 0,34s system 99% cpu 58,986 total lzma -2 openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar 72,19s user 0,36s system 99% cpu 1:12,60 total decompression: gzip -d openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz 3,33s user 0,39s system 98% cpu 3,783 total lzma -d openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.lzma 14,39s user 0,36s system 99% cpu 14,839 total bzip2 -d openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.bz2 18,61s user 0,44s system 98% cpu 19,260 total sizes: 303M openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar 141M openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz 139M openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.bz2 129M openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.lzma 119M openoffice-base-3.0.0-4-i686.pkg.tar.lzma-2 default compression ratio switches: gzip -6 bzip2 -9 lzma -7 And an excerpt from lzma manual: In this manual lzma is compared mostly to bzip2 because that is currently one of the most widely used free software to compress tar files made for distribution. Comparing lzma to gzip is not practical because neither lzma nor bzip2 can compete with gzip in compression speed. On the other hand the compression ratio of gzip is worse than of lzma and bzip2. -- Rogutes

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28-3
by Gerhard Brauer 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Am Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:54:08 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org>: > Aaron Griffin schrieb: > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> > > wrote: > >> Showstopper: > >> klibc needs to be fixed. It breaks compilation of tools. > > > > Could you be more specific? There was some talk on the klibc ML > > about recent kernel changes, so I'd like to know what is broken. > > Perhaps it is fixable (and Debian may have changes already) > > klibc didn't build against 2.6.28 because some asm headers are now in > arch/x86/include/ instead of include/asm-x86/. I added a quick-fix to > the Makefile so klibc would build. However, I forgot that these > headers weren't installed either, so now klcc does not compile > anything that needs any of those headers (I didn't notice because I > didn't have to recompile the klibc-* packages). This means: klibc > works as a runtime library, but klcc is useless. IMHO is the problem in our kernel26 package. Therein we have a bad symlink to the architecture asm directory. [gerhard@tux1 ~]$ ls -ld /usr/src/linux-2.6.28-ARCH/include/asm lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 26. Dez 11:01 /usr/src/linux-2.6.28-ARCH/include/asm -> asm-x86 [gerhard@tux1 ~]$ ls -l /usr/src/linux-2.6.28-ARCH/include/asm/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5877 26. Dez 10:43 asm-offsets.h If compiling klibc from testing (i use 1.5.15) with the 2.6.28 patch we have in klibc: ----- /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm total 8 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2009-01-09 11:54 asm-i386 -> asm-i386 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5877 2009-01-09 11:53 asm-offsets.h lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2009-01-09 11:54 asm-x86 -> asm-x86 ------------ two death symlinks (asm-i386, asm-x86). These are the problems that the other klibc-* tools don't build. But if i change the kernel asm Symlink to: /usr/src/linux-2.6.28-ARCH/include/asm -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.28-ARCH/arch/x86/include/asm (for i686), then i could build a) klibc 1.5.15 without the 2.6.28-patch b) the other klibc-* tools from core. Regards Gerhard

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[arch-general] Problem building Player with pkgbuild
by Christian Babeux 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hi, I'm trying to build Player with a pkgbuild from the AUR. Here is the pkgbuild: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/player/player/PKGBUILD Is seems the build is failing because of Arch's strict GCC (I really don't know if that's the problem) At first it was failing with this error: actarrayproxy.cc: In member function ‘player_actarray_actuator_t PlayerCc::ActArrayProxy::GetActuatorData(uint32_t) const’: actarrayproxy.cc:246: error: ‘memset’ was not declared in this scope So I figured that string.h was not included and modified the config.h to include it : echo -e "#include <unistd.h>\n#include <stdlib.h>\n#include <stdio.h>\n#include <string.h>" >> config.h But now it fails with : speechproxy.cc:96: error: ‘strdup’ was not declared in this scope The strange thing is that strdup is declared in string.h... Any ideas ? Christian Babeux

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[arch-general] Kerberos auto renew does not work.
by Anton 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Good Day. I'm trying to make kcm to work but it does not want :-). I want creds on my workstation to be renewed automatically when it near to expire. I set in [libdefaults] secton default_cc_name = KCM:%{uid}, I started kcm. Then I got cred with command: kinit --renewable user1 it gets tgt with a renewable flag but does not renews automatically and then exires. To check this I used -l 60 and/or -r 60. Tgt never be renewed. It always expires. Google did not help me or my search was wrong :-(. What am I doing wrong ? What are the necessary steps should I do to make auto renew of cred ? -- Anton [WARM-RIPE] Stack ltd division head tel. 8 (3822) 555-797

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28-2
by pyther 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:37:33 +0100, tobias(a)justdreams.de wrote: > Quoting Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net>: >> I'm running the 2.6 prerelease series for a while on my laptop now. My >> first impressions: >> - EXA is even slower than it was with 2.4.3 >> - UXA is much faster >> - XAA not tested >> - 3D is horribly slow >> - Compiz doesn't draw window decorations due to some breakage in libdrm >> >> If we want to use 2.5.x or 2.6 when it comes out, we have to grab a mesa >> snapshot from git master to get GEM support in mesa also. >> >> As xorg-server 1.6 shouldn't be far away anymore, I think we can wait >> for the next stable release of mesa that has GEM support. >> > Just as I thought you have much more insight on this. I totally agree to > stick with 2.4.x for now. > > Thanks, > -T I just wanted to let the devs know that 2.4.x causes Xorg to crash with Kernel 2.6.28, so some users might have issues. It doesn't matter to me either way just wanted to let that information be known. Thanks, pyther

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[arch-general] How to resolve dependency issue - bluez-libs
by richard terry 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

This sort of thing always used to be uncommon in Arch. However: Tried to upgrade recently as I do every fe days, got this: looking for inter-conflicts... :: bluez-libs conflicts with bluez. Remove bluez? [Y/n] n error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: bluez-libs: conflicts with bluez If I answer Yes, I get: looking for inter-conflicts... :: bluez-libs conflicts with bluez. Remove bluez? [Y/n] y error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: gnokii: requires bluez>=4.1 gnokii needed by kdepim etc. How can I resolve this? Any help appreciated. Richard

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WICD, up for grabs
by Grigorios Bouzakis 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:35:14AM +0200, Vesa Kaihlavirta wrote: > > I talked with Angel on IRC and we decided to work on wicd together and > keep it in extra for now. Angel, do you concur? > > And there's a brand new wicd-1.5.8-1 for both arches in testing. > Thanks for keeping it in extra. Is there any reason the new version went to testing first? Greg

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[arch-general] Amarok 2.0 released
by Amanai 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Some of the highlights that are included in the 2.0 release are a completely redesigned user interface, tight integration with online services such as Magnatune, Jamendo, MP3tunes, Last.fm and Shoutcast. There is an overhauled scripting API and plugin support to allow better integration into Amarok. Much of the work has gone into migration from the KDE 3 to KDE 4 framework using core technologies such as Solid, Phonon, and Plasma. http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.0 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/amarok/2.0/src/amarok-2.0.tar.bz2

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28-3
by Tobias Powalowski 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: just a quick rebuild which adds crda as optdepend. please signoff for both arches I would like to move in kernel, klibc, mkinitcpio, module-init-tools, crda (with depends) and binary modules this week to core if you are all fine with it. Showstopper: klibc needs to be fixed. It breaks compilation of tools. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28-2
by Tobias Powalowski 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: just a quick rebuild which adds crda as optdepend. please signoff for both arches I would like to move in kernel, klibc, mkinitcpio, module-init-tools, crda (with depends) and binary modules this week to core if you are all fine with it. Showstopper: klibc needs to be fixed. It breaks compilation of tools. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Building all packages in core
by Baho Utot 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

I am presently building all the packages in abs/core against the latest abs kernel, glibc and gcc versions. I think as a goal that the core and extra repositories should be able to build against the latest tools/kernel (in the repos). There has been some failures to build for various reasons. Should I file bug reports or just contact the maintainer for the package? I don't mean to be a pest with this, I am only trying to help. FYI: This is my process: I have constructed a simple bash script that updates abs then rsyncs that to my build subdirectory and then runs makeworld. I have a lockfile so if the process is not complete before it is scheduled to run again, it will not run and skip that day. Upon completion this thing emails me the results both successful builds as well as a list of failures. I will then have a look at the failures and then file bugs reports/contacts if needed. I have placed the script into my crontab which occurs nitely until the bulk of this is complete then I am going to set it to occur every Sunday @ 00:00:00. I will then use this custom repository to keep all my systems here up to date. Thanks.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28-2
by Tobias Powalowski 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: just a quick rebuild fixing karma support and bumped depend on mkinitcpio 0.5.20. please signoff for both arches I would like to move in kernel, klibc, mkinitcpio,module-init-tools and binary modules on tuesday to core if you are all fine with it. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WICD, up for grabs
by Angel Velásquez 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Eduardo Romero <k3nsai(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I have updated wicd quite a few times already, since I was using > it to test something in my network. I had my few share of bugs opened > for wicd, but now, they are all closed, hopefully, closed and dead. But, > well, I have no more need for wicd, so, I am officially retiring from > maintaining it. Feel free to grab it, or do with the packages what you > want. To this point nobody has showed interest in taking it. So, let's > hope someone takes it and give it the care it should have. > > I honestly have no means to test it to full capacity, so for half the > bugs I had to rely on what others told me. I send this email, because I > won't like it to be there sitting outdated and uncared for too much. > > PS: I just upgraded it for the last time, to version 1.5.6, because it > seems to fix some problems. > > Thanks, > > Eduardo "kensai" Romero > > If nobody will take it, I can maintain it on community. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909 Arch Linux Trusted User

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[arch-general] Help need with pkgbuild failure
by richard terry 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

I used to be on this list till my last email address, died, so re-joined. I posted this with a file attachment yesterday and it didn't reach the list, so here it is again, without the file. I've been programming gambas3 for some months, and use a modified PKGBUILD from an old one I obtained ages ago. I've compiled daily updates of Gambas3 svn for the last 9 months, never failed, but now won't work complaining it can't find: -lqt-mt These files seem to be there: /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.prl /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3 /opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 I sent this to the gambas list and got Benoi't reply below: > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[5]: *** [gb.qt.kde.html.la] Error 1 > make[5]: Leaving directory > `/home/richard/gambas3-svn/src/trunk/gb.qt.kde/src/html' > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[4]: Leaving directory > `/home/richard/gambas3-svn/src/trunk/gb.qt.kde/src' make[3]: *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/richard/gambas3-svn/src/trunk/gb.qt.kde' > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/richard/gambas3-svn/src/trunk/gb.qt.kde' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/richard/gambas3-svn/src/trunk' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > ==> ERROR: Build Failed. > Aborting... > > Any idea's > > Regards > > Richard > First, do a "./reconf && ./configure -C". Then check that the qt 3 library is installed on your system. As I didn't know how to apply his comment above to PKGBUILD"s as I don't understand them at all, I couldn't proceed. I've emailed Toni who seems to maintain a version of this in AUR for gambas2 Any help appreciated ======================= Contributor: Toni Foerster <stonerl(a)skeps.de> # changed by Richard Terry (so it is probably Wrong! rterry(a)pacific.net.au # to get the lastest development branch of Gambas libffi added as dependency pkgname=gambas3-svn pkgrel=2 pkgver=1773 arch=('i686') url="http://gambas.sourceforge.net" depends=('libldap' 'librsvg' 'postgresql' 'libmysqlclient' 'curl' 'sqlite2' \ 'sqlite3' 'sdl_mixer' 'sdl_image' 'unixodbc' 'poppler' \ 'libfbclient' 'omniorb' 'libffi' 'autoconf' 'automake') license=('GPL') conflicts=('gambas_3' 'gambas3') install=gambas3-svn.install source=(gambas3.desktop gambas3.png) md5sums=('177837d2a53cd202ab0fc307656a8c50' '682f60d694dd1df53d786c21939622c5') _svntrunk=https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk _svnrevision=1773 build() { msg "Checking out svn-tree..." svn checkout -r $_svnrevision $_svntrunk|| return 1 cd $startdir/src/trunk msg "Configure files..." ./reconf-all ./configure --disable-qte \ --prefix=/usr msg "Start Compiling..." make bindir=$startdir/pkg/usr/bin || return 1 make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install || return 1 chmod -R 755 $startdir/pkg/usr/share/gambas3/help install -D -m644 $startdir/src/gambas3.desktop \ $startdir/pkg/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop install -D -m644 $startdir/src/gambas3.png \ $startdir/pkg/usr/share/pixmaps/gambas3.png } ======================= Richard

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[arch-general] Pacman 3.2.2 string freeze
by Dan McGee 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

String freeze for the pacman 3.2.2 release is now in effect. Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) pre-release updates. http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ I'm shooting for a release approximately 5 days from now, but that could change depending on how quick we get translations back and sneak some last-minute fixes in. Languages we currently have: cs:Vojtěch Gondžala <vojtech.gondzala(a)gmail.com> de: Matthias Gorissen <matthias(a)archlinux.de> en_GB: Jeff Bailes <thepizzaking(a)gmail.com> (Already complete) es: Juan Pablo Gonzalez <jotapesan(a)gmail.com> fr: Xavier Chantry <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> hu: Nagy Gabor <ngaba(a)bibl.u-szeged.hu> it: Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania(a)gmail.com> pl: Mateusz Herych <heniekk(a)gmail.com> pt_BR: Hugo Doria <hugo(a)archlinux.org> ru: Sergey Tereschenko <serg.partizan(a)gmail.com> tr: Samed Beyribey <beyribey(a)gmail.com> zh_CN: 甘露(Lu.Gan) <rhythm.gan(a)gmail.com> If you wish to help translate, but your language is already listed as handled by someone, please contact them at the above addresses. If the language is listed as "no current translator", then please reply to ALL on this message stating you are doing the translation so we do not have duplicated effort (although you are more than welcome to work in teams). Once you have updated or completed a translation, simply tar and gzip the files up and send them back to pacman-dev(a)archlinux.org with a [translation] prefix in the message. For those that are used to the old method of updating translations (GIT patches), those are still acceptable as well. Please prefix the patch with "translation:" so it can be picked out easily. Any questions should be answered if you reply to this email on the list. -Dan

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[arch-general] [Translation] Update zh_CN.po
by 甘露(Gan Lu) 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

Ready for 3.2.2 release, thanks.

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[arch-general] what happens with rsync?
by Sergej Pupykin 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

Hi, At least 2 mirrors do not update for a few days: - mir1.archlinuxfr.org - mirrors.yandex.ru What happens?

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[arch-general] Core and Extra repos
by Baho Utot 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Should a goal of ArchLinux be that the core and extra repos build without error. I am rebuilding all the packages from core and some selected packages from extra to take advantage of my processor an AMD Athlon processors, which I use exclusive. I have used makeworld from a make file and there are several PKGBUILDs that do not build or build incorrectly. Some of the packages fail because of gcc-4.3.2. I have since patched those. Step two is to run abs then rsync the abs updates into place and fire up my make file to build all the updates on my server box and place them into my custom repos, from cron on Sunday at the zero hour/minute. If some one would like to test/confirm this here is my Makefile: .PHONY: cleanstatus cleansrc cleanpkg cleanlog repos clean shutdown update REPNM := testing REPOS := /home/packages/$(REPNM) DBASE := $(REPNM).db.tar.gz PKGS := *.pkg.tar.gz all: repos cleanstatus cleansrc cleanpkg makeworld --clean --noconfirm --log --syncdeps --rmdeps $(REPOS) . grep fail build.log > failed.log || true cat failed.log || true grep error: makepkg.log || true date repos: repo-add $(REPOS)/$(DBASE) $(REPOS)/$(PKGS) sudo pacman -Syy clean: cleanstatus cleansrc cleanpkg cleanlog cleanstatus: rm build.log || true rm failed.log || true rm makepkg.log || true cleansrc: -find . -name src -type d -exec rm -rf '{}' \; cleanpkg: -find . -name pkg -type d -exec rm -rf '{}' \; cleanlog: -find . -name "*.log*" -exec rm '{}' \; makepkg: clean makepkg --clean --noconfirm --log --syncdeps --rmdeps shutdown: all sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28-1
by Tobias Powalowski 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest major version - atl2 moved into mainline kernel - wlan-ng26 moved into staging directory of kernel development - for the cool stuff please refer to: http://kernelnewbies.org please signoff for both arches all binary modules have been rebuilt too, please test if they work properly. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] A good CPU Load/Memory/Network Activity Monitor in KDE
by Charly Ghislain 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Except that its not using a percentage scale but a dynamic one with absolute values. That means you should look a it to know your transfert speed.

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[arch-general] [aur-general] the future of empathy, libtelepathy..
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Hello, there has been a thread on aur-general in October 2008 about this issue, but the situation is not satisfying IMHO: We have a package of empathe in AUR _and_ in [testing].Both are or were orphaned, and the package in AUR was taken by a user and upgraded to version 2.25. I was chatting with him, and we reverted the change and uploaded a release 2.25 as empathy-devel. I think this should not happen again. What is the decision? Will empathe go to [extra] soon? If it is desired to keep the version in AUR, I suggest a developer should take it and keep it until it reaches [extra]. Or it should be removed. Thoughts? Regards Stefan

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] libnl 1.1-1, iw 0.9.7-1, crda 0.9.5-1
by Grigorios Bouzakis 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > With 2.6.28, the new wirless regulatory infrastructure is there. The above > packages are in extra (libnl) or testing (iw, crda). If we want proper > wireless support, we need these packages in core. It works like this: > > - Install crda > - Uncomment the right country code in /etc/conf.d/wireless-regdom > - Add wireless-regdom to your rc.conf DAEMONS and run > /etc/rc.d/wireless-regdom start > > The kernel will now know on which frequencies you are allowed to send. > Without this, you should only be able to access a small number of channels. > > The cfg80211_regdom kernel module option will be removed in 2.6.29 and > should not be used anymore. > > Theres packages for crda and libnl in AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14856 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21855 & iw in [community]: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19012 Theres also http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21854 whose only reason of existance seemed to be crda. Greg

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[arch-general] vnc on display:0
by sagar n 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Hi, I want to connect to display:0 of a headless box remotely. I looked at x11vnc but it seems to be considerably slow compared to a normal vnc session or even XDMCP. Is there a way to run vncserver so that it connects to :0. I looked at xf4vnc-xvnc package, but the module libvnc.so fails to load with the new Xserver. (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so: undefined symbol: NumCurrentSelections (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so (II) UnloadModule: "vnc" (EE) Failed to load module "vnc" (loader failed, 7) Is it a known bug? In any case, is there an alternative way to connect to display:0 remotely? -- Sagar N. ( evilsense ) Dont look at my finger, look at the moon.

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[arch-general] A good CPU Load/Memory/Network Activity Monitor in KDE
by Leonid Grinberg 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows of a good KDE applet for monitoring system activty, similar to the GNOME one. I'd really like to be able to see CPU load, memory usage and network activity. I am running vanilla KDE 4.1.3 (not kdemod). -- Thanks, Leonid Grinberg

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[arch-general] ftpd problem on ftp.archlinux.org?
by Gerhard Brauer 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Hi, today i have several failed connections to ftp.archlinux.org ----------- [gerhard@tux1 ~]$ LANG=C wget ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686/core.db.tar.gz --2008-12-29 21:18:15-- ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686/core.db.tar.gz => `core.db.tar.gz.7' Resolving ftp.archlinux.org... 209.85.41.145, 209.85.41.144 Connecting to ftp.archlinux.org|209.85.41.145|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Error in server response, closing control connection. Retrying. --2008-12-29 21:18:16-- ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686/core.db.tar.gz (try: 2) => `core.db.tar.gz.7' Connecting to ftp.archlinux.org|209.85.41.145|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Error in server response, closing control connection. Retrying. --2008-12-29 21:18:18-- ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686/core.db.tar.gz (try: 3) => `core.db.tar.gz.7' Connecting to ftp.archlinux.org|209.85.41.145|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Error in server response, closing control connection. Retrying. --2008-12-29 21:18:22-- ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686/core.db.tar.gz (try: 4) => `core.db.tar.gz.7' Connecting to ftp.archlinux.org|209.85.41.145|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Error in server response, closing control connection. Retrying. ^C -------------------------- Sometimes it goes fine after several tries. Seems onyl that 209.85.41.145 has the problem. Gerhard

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[arch-general] Slow startup of mc
by Abdul Halim 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Hi. I just found out that mc (midnight commander) in extra repository is buggy in a sense that it will take around 7 secs or more to start. This happens to me on several machines. Other distro are reporting this issues too: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?24038 To resolve this issue, I have downloaded mc-mp from community which is more stable. I am suggesting that mc to be removed from the extra repo since it is an unstable version of mc. Regards. archlinuxsagi

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[arch-general] KDE 4.2 and AUR Upgrading
by Leonid Grinberg 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Hello, I am currently running a vanilla KDE 4.1.3. There are a number of problems that I am having, all of which, I am told, are fixed in 4.2 None of the problems are incredibly serious, but they are annoying enough that I am considering upgrading to 4.2. I thus have a few questions: 1) Once 4.2 is released, how soon is it reasonable to expect that it will be in the repositories (not AUR). 2) If one installs a package from AUR, and then it is moved to the main repositories, does Pacman know that the two packages are the same? I am interested in this with regards both to this question and to others -- e.g. the main repositories currently have Amarok 1.4 while AUR has 2.0. I am wary of installing it from AUR because when it is moved to the main repositories, I don't know if Pacman will know how to handle the upgrade. Thanks in advance! Leonid Grinberg

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[arch-general] [signoff] grub-097-15
by Tobias Powalowski 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Please signoff for both arches - added ext4 support patch greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] x264, mplayer, ffmpeg rebuild?
by Markus Heuser 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Hey guys, Today i wanted to rip one of my dvds with h264enc from AUR [1]. I updated to the latest available version (8.6.6) but couldn't get it working together with the mencoder from the repos. I'm not asking for support for an AUR package, but here is what I found out and I guess this could be important for other ripping/x264 encoding software as well: The extra/x264 is severely outdated, in fact it lacks support for some -x264encopts that can be used by mencoder and therefore breaks encoding. This seems not to be very common by now but sooner or later encoding tools will use these options and we should provide compatible packages :) So, if one rebuilds x264 either with the $pkgver bumped to the latest available snapshot [2] or uses the AUR x264-git Package [3], MPlayer needs a rebuild too. Using the official MPlayer PKGBUILD results in a build error with a possible solution posted on the forums [4]. I know that the OP is using an SVN version of mplayer but I couldn't get the new x264 working together with the mplayer PKGBUILD from the repos (another build error complaining about libavcodec), so upgrading to the latest & greatest (tm) version seems to be the next logical step to me. I see that this "solution" involves using ffmpeg and mplayer svn versions which is obviously not suitable for the repos. But I'd be very thankful to see a rebuild of x264 and mplayer/ffmpeg as soon as the changes in ffmpeg and mplayer are in the stable branches and you guys can afford the time to do so :) Greetings, Markus [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12121 [2] ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/x264/snapshots/x264- snapshot-20081228-2245.tar.bz2 [3] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15774 [4] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=61858

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] grub with ext4 support
by Gerhard Brauer 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

Am Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:30:33 +0100 schrieb "Ronald van Haren" <pressh(a)gmail.com>: > I will check into the grub2 issue in that case. I've played around last days with grub2 (Version from extra and svn) for putting it as the ISO bootloader and with ext4 FS. - I could made a test ISO (archiso based, 2.6.28) with grub2. This boots fine in virtual machines (like virtualbox or qemu). But on real machines the cdrom (biosdisk module) wasn't found. I never see cd0 on real hardware, only the harddisks (looked with ls when ls-module is aktivated). I tried question on #grub in IRC, but no answer. (With the ata module the cdrom could be handselected with low speed, but this is not practicable...) - grub2 and ext4. Grub2 boots fine on ext4 partitions (i have a ext4 /boot partition on VM). But i have problems to (re)install grub2 when the partition **is** ext4. I tested: /boot is ext3, install grub2, boot is fine. Also re-installing grub2 works. Convert /boot to ext4 (with extent), grub2 boots fine. If trying to reinstall grub2 then (grub-install --debug /dev/sda) it rewrites the core.img file in /boot/grub. And then the core.img file could not be parsed: error cannot read core.img correctly. Maybe a result of using ext4 extends. During grub-install much files from /usr/lib/grub(?) get copied to /boot/grub again, and the core.img file is there also build correctly (thats part of grub-setup). But then i could not be read (maybe grub2 does this "reading/parsing" in a unusual way which leads to problems on ext4... This i get both with the version from extra and from svn. If this problem is not only based on my mistake or on my enviroment, then we would have a problem during install to install grub2 on a ext4 prepared partition - and later if grub2 must be reinstalled. From my experience with grub/grub2 and ext4 i would assume (also as part of the installer): If one would use ext4 for Root-Partition then /boot should be still ext2/3. Ok, this is one FS module more if ext4 is preferred, but it's save. > > Ronald Gerhard

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Re: [arch-general] A good CPU Load/Memory/Network Activity Monitor in KDE
by Bram Schoenmakers 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

On Sunday 28 December 2008 16:57:26 Shridhar Daithankar wrote: Hi, > I think the system monitor is coming back in 4.2. but I don't have a handy > link for that. Yes, it will be included [1]. But as indicated somewhere else, a memory plot is still missing. [1] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/system- monitor/ Kind regards, -- Bram Schoenmakers What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind. (Punch, 1855)

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[arch-general] gnome group missing depency
by Vitor Pereira 27 Dec '08

27 Dec '08

Greetings Installing gnome in a new machine I found that packages in the gnome group, the install scripts call for some missing bins. (I did not create a bug track because there were several packages) These bin are: /usr/bin/gconftool-2 /usr/sbin/gconfpkg gtk-update-cache Also, shouldn't xorg be dependency of gnome? raca

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[arch-general] mkinitcpio - Possible patch for ext4 autodetection
by Gerhard Brauer 27 Dec '08

27 Dec '08

Hi, i modified the auto-detection function for file-system modules to auto-detect a ext4 partition. The advantage of using blkid instead of klibc-package/bin/fstype is that blkid detects ext4 filesystems. I tried to rebuild klibc with kernel 2.6.28, but this failed. But maybe this could be a alternative method, and maybe better cause klibc is often older than the kernel. --------- --- /lib/initcpio/install/autodetect.org 2008-11-23 07:48:21.000000000 +0100 +++ /lib/initcpio/install/autodetect 2008-12-27 18:21:22.310364104 +0100 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ findfs () { for blkdev in $(find /dev -type b | grep -v -e loop -e ram -e fd); do - eval $(/usr/lib/klibc/bin/fstype 2>/dev/null < ${blkdev}) + FSTYPE=$(blkid -o value -s TYPE ${blkdev}) if [ -n "${FSTYPE}" -a "${FSTYPE}" != "swap" -a "${FSTYPE}" != "unknown" -a "${FSTYPE}" != "luks" -a "${FSTYPE}" != "lvm2" ]; then echo ${FSTYPE} fi @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ grep "^${modname}$" "${MODULE_FILE}" >/dev/null 2>&1 && continue case "${m}" in #*/ieee1394/*) echo -e "sbp2\nsd_mod\nsr_mod" >> "${MODULE_FILE}";; + *ext4*) echo -e "jbd2\nmbcache\ncrc16" >> "${MODULE_FILE}" ;; *ext3*) echo "jbd" >> "${MODULE_FILE}" ;; *afs*) echo "rxrpc" >> "${MODULE_FILE}" ;; *cramfs*) echo "zlib_inflate" >> "${MODULE_FILE}" ;; --------------- With this patch mkinitcpio -M detects the ext4 (and releated) modules, and i could build a proper initrd image for booting from ext4 (with grub2 as bootloader) I don't want to file a bug/feature request while not tested enough. Regards Gerhard

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[arch-general] Arch ISO Download Links Down?
by kludge 27 Dec '08

27 Dec '08

tried to download the core (and later, ftp) iso torrents this morning and got empty files. second time i clicked the links, it took me to empty ftp directories. ??? -kludge

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[arch-general] vnc
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

Hello, I yesterday compiled the release 4.1.3 of vnc on x86_64. It needs some gcc-4.3-related patching to build. I attach the PKGBUILD and the patch here. Regards Stefan

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[arch-general] Colin Pitrat is out of the office.
by Colin Pitrat 25 Dec '08

25 Dec '08

I will be out of the office starting 24/12/2008 and will not return until 04/01/2009. I will respond to your message when I return.

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[arch-general] Xorg locks/crashes
by Baho Utot 25 Dec '08

25 Dec '08

I purchased a new larger hard drive to install ArchLinux. Not wanting to erase the existing install from earlier this year. I booted the 2008-03-1 boot disk and installed the basic install, rebooted. Then ran pacman -Syy pacman -Su to install updates. I then proceeded to install alsa which when fine. Then I did a pacman -S libgl xorg mesa xf86-video-ati. then Xorg -configure followed by X -config /root/xorg.conf.new. X started and gave me the X cursor. The keyboard and mouse are not responsive and I can not kill X with the <Backspace> trick. ALT+F1...F8 does nothing. I had to Press the "Microsoft Windows button" to gain control of the system. I know this is not a hardware problem as the previous Arch install runs fine with KDEMOD. Has any one experienced this? Any one with some pointers/Help?

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[arch-general] Does anyone receive two copies of same message on the arch-announce list?
by pyther 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

Hello. Every time there is an announcement on the the main I'll get an email (as I am on the arch-announce list). However, about 5-8 hours I'll get another copy of the email. For example I got the [arch-announce] Pacman update and mirrorlist email Sunday at 23:00 and then today at 05:02. This has been happening for a few months now. I've checked the mail headers and each email is being delivered to the same address. Does anyone else have this problem or am I just lucky? ~pyther

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.27.10-1
by Tobias Powalowski 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version Plan to avoid file conflict: - Move module-init-tools 2 weeks after .10 kernel moved to core. - Release a NEWS ITEM: Possible file confilct, while upgrading kernel26 2.6.27.10 and module-init-tools 3.5, please use 'pacman -Sf kernel26' to avoid warnings about existing module-init-tools files. any other suggestion? please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] scons "update"
by Alessandro Doro 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

# pacman -Syu ... warning: scons: local (1.1.0.d20081104-1) is newer than extra (1.1.0-1) ... Is there a reason for reverting to the stable scons release or the packager intended to update to latest 1.1.0.d20081207? bye

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[arch-general] Access arch-general ML archive before November 2007
by Grigorios Bouzakis 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

Does anyone know of a place were tha arch-general (at the time simply arch) ML archive is available before November 2007? I wanted to access it but realised it isnt available. I guess the name change had much to do with it, but i dont believe the previous years are lost. Greg

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[arch-general] More simple udev blacklisting
by Michal Soltys 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

With reference to older discussions about blacklisting methods - modprobe supports -b (or in long form --use-blacklist) that will also block explicit loading by standard module name. Thus you could nicely avoid shell wrapper on fb stuff. The switch won't block implicit dependencies though (so if A requires B, B is blacklisted, then modprobe -b A will still load A and B). That shouldn't be a problem from udev's perspective though. Stock udev rules will use -b by default from the next release, peeking at the mailing list. FYI.

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[arch-general] X crashes after upgrade to intel
by ert256 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

Hello After system upgrade, and configuring intel driver, X crashes width message : Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/Xorg(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x813017b] 1: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x51) [0x80d8cb1] 2: [0xb7f8f420] 3: [0xb7f8f420] 4: /usr/bin/Xorg(ProcGetImage+0x5d0) [0x808a130] 5: /usr/bin/Xorg(Dispatch+0x34f) [0x808c20f] 6: /usr/bin/Xorg(main+0x47d) [0x8071c8d] 7: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7b7e6c5] 8: /usr/bin/Xorg(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x209) [0x8071071] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting Complete log is here :http://student.agh.edu.pl/~ert/xlog.txt Complete configuration is here: http://student.agh.edu.pl/~ert/config.txt Please help. -- Rafał (ert16) Trójniak m@il : ert256(a)gmail.com Jid : ert256(a)gmail.com GPG key-ID : DD681D47 749F E1DC A58F 9084 BBC0 797A 0691 53D6 DD68 1D47

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[arch-general] Arch Linux automatic (prescripted) installer/deployment tool
by Dieter Plaetinck 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Hi all, I've started working on a new procedure for AIF called 'automatic'. With automatic I don't mean a newbfriendly installer that automatically configures your xorg etc. I rather mean an installer that you pass a small configfile (disk layout, package list,...) so it can work non-interactively to setup your system exacty the way you want. I hope I/we can someday implement such automatic installation in two ways: - an environment that gets loaded through by pxe booting and can work without any user input at all. Best case scenario we can generate such an environment like we generate cd iso's, and we automatically start aif with the automatic procedure. A sufficient live network config will be done (the bios will use dhcp before pxe booting) and the config file for the procedure can be made available for example by the user himself who generated the pxe environment. (low prio for me personally but maybe someone is interested in this, it's something to keep in mind) - we use the installer cd with AIF on it, you boot it and start "aif -p automatic" yourself. 2 more manual things need to happen: * Network config (for that I plan to write a simple script that uses the aif libraries) * getting the config file for the automatic procedure After that, the automatic procedure can work independently. Given the modular, reusable code base we already have now, this should be fairly easy to implement (although I still need to work more on aif, the way pacman functions are exposed etc) Does anyone have thoughts, ideas, requirements, ...? Dieter

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[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Move Azureus to community?
by Grigorios Bouzakis 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12480 > > Opinions? > Theres also bittorrent which hasnt been able to operate for at least a year. AFAIK it cant be updated either. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6764 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6758 Greg

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[arch-general] wrong file permissions in /var/lib/pacman/local
by Hubert Grzeskowiak 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

hi there, can it be, that the some dirs written to /var/lib/pacman/local/* are not chmod'ed properly? sometimes i get errors because as user i don't have the permissions to do anything with it (it's set to drwx------). this only occurs on some packages (eg. the new nmap package). other dirs and files inside all (also the corrupted) directories seem okay (files: -rw-r--r--; dirs: drwxr-xr-x) i played around with umask and sudo (always used on de-/installations) with no result -everything was okay- so i conclude it's a per-package problem. is anybody else encountering this? thx in advance Hubert Grzekowiak

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[arch-general] new AIF release
by Dieter Plaetinck 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

Hello Arch devs and users, here is my holidays present for you: AIF alpha-0.6 ! * Changes since alpha 0.5: - fully reworked disk subsystem - support for lvm and dm_crypt - Autoprepare looks exactly the same (ui-wise) - Manual mode UI is entirely reworked and has a general editor (see screens) - Unified, more flexible/reusable backend code for partitioning, making filesystems and mounting them. Uses structured file formats for defining partitions and filesystems - Rollback functionality: when something failed while processing, or user changes his mind afterwards, you can do a rollback (things like umount, lvremove etc are done automatically in the correct order) and start over/retry - fully decoupled UI (dia/cli): - there are now generic, transparent functions for asking dates,numbers,strings,checklist,.. etc with an implementation in both ncurses (dialog) and cli. - all code now uses these functions, making the codebase much cleaner. (look at the code for autoprepare for instance) - with a simple command line flag you can toggle between running the program in cli or dialog mode. - support for commandline args - /arch/aif -p interactive -d # runs the interactive profile with debugging enabled - /arch/aif -p interactive -i cli # runs the interactive profile in CLI mode. - updated howto for using AUR packages - replaced all refs to previous name (fifa) to aif. - enabled date/time setting - a massive amount of bugfixes - a lot of code cleanups * Screenshots - AIF manual filesystems, here showing a setup with /dev/sda3 containing a dm_crypt, containing /, and /dev/sda3 containing an LVM setup with 1 LV for /home http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/aif/aif-alpha_0.6-disks-overview-dia.png - Processing the filesystems. The installer automatically reorders everything http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/aif/aif-alpha_0.6-disks-processing-dia.png - a CLI shot where the partitions/filesystems of the autoprepare just have been processed http://users.edpnet.be/dieter/aif/aif-alpha_0.6-autoprepare_processed-cli.p… * Usability I tested the installer personally in virtualbox in different scenarios (ftp & cdrom based, autoprepare, manually with normal disk layout,/ on lvm, dm_crypt,.. ), and all produced working installations. Although I often need to fix bugs after testing a specific scenario, I don't re-test all scenarios each time. YMMV Note that the installer doesn't automatically add the lvm2/encrypt modules to mkinitcpio yet, and doesn't add the right string for lvm/dm_crypt in grubs menu.lst yet. There are some known issues (which are not critical, just avoid them or live with them). Here are the biggest ones (for more, see TODO) - don't remove lvm LV's if you have more then one in one lvm VG. So think before you create :-) - make the correct devicemapper devices directly because they are not cleaned up correctly if you remove them again - keyboard and timezone settings from installer don't go into target systems config - long selections (eg packages) are very cumbersome to do in CLI mode. - rollback of dm_crypt partitions doesn't work yet * How? http://github.com/Dieterbe/aif/tree/master/HOWTO Use package aif-git from AUR. Even though I tag releases in git, I don't build packages for them. I now use the master branch as "stable" branch where I pull in code from the experimental branch after it has been tested. So the master branch (package aif-git) always contains the latest, stable code. Use "/arch/aif -p interactive -d" (the interactive procedure is the port of /arch/setup) Have fun, Dieter

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] pacman 3.2.1-2, pacman-mirrorlist
by Grigorios Bouzakis 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is a dual signoff. I have split the pacman mirrorlist into its > own package because > 1) Pacman releases are not all that common (because its perfect > software, of course!) > 2) Our packaged mirrorlist often lags waaay behind the actual one in > SVN, because I find it a waste to rebuild pacman just for mirrorlist > changes. This will prevent that. > > I don't actually run pacman, so 2 signoffs per arch would be > wonderful. In addition, PLEASE let me know if anything goes awry > during a normal upgrade process. This could include mirrorlist not > being written to pacsave, mirrorlist disappearing, etc. > May i ask why pacman requires pacman-mirrorlist and not the other way around? Pacman can operate without a mirrorlist. Pacman-mirrorlist can not operate without pacman.. Greg

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Re: [arch-general] Build from source question.
by Anton 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:49:48 +0600 Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: So ... this is from CRUX's pkgmk: for REPO in ${PKGMK_SOURCE_MIRRORS[@]}; do REPO="`echo $REPO | sed 's|/$||'`" wget $RESUME_CMD $DOWNLOAD_OPTS $REPO/$BASENAME error=$? if [ $error == 0 ]; then break fi done I think it is not hard to patch my local copy of makepkg with this pice of code :). May be I will do this if I can to find a time ... I even did not install archlinux yet :-). I use crux ... I'll try. > Anton wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:28:55 +0600 > > Lukáš Jirkovský <l.jirkovsky(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> 2008/12/16 Anton <warm(a)stack.ru>: > >> > >>> Good day. > >>> > >>> I'm going to compile all needed packages for archlinux. There are many source mirrors at the net not > >>> only URLs from PKGBUILD. Usually it is "distfiles" dir from gentoo or freebsd. It contains sources for > >>> their ports. I want use this sources. > >>> > >>> How can I to make makepkg to look for source in my LAN mirrirs to get it first from there and only then > >>> from PKGBUILD's url ? > >>> > >>> For example in CRUX pkgmk.conf there is PKGMK_SOURCE_MIRRORS=(...) wich point to list of such mirrors. I > >>> looking for the same in archlinux. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Anton [WARM-RIPE] > >>> Stack ltd division head > >>> tel. 8 (3822) 555-797 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Hello, > >> you can use SRCDEST="/path/to/folder" option in makepkg.conf. makepkg > >> looks into this directory first and if there are no sources, it will > >> download them there. > >> > > > > This is not exactly what I looking for. In this case I should manually download sources to the SRCDEST > > from my local mirrirs but I want automatic try to download the sources to SRCDEST from my list of URLs > > where source can be found or not. If source tar ball can not be found at URLs from the list then source > > should be downloaded from its true home page or location specified in PKGBUILD. CRUX's pkgmk can do this, > > can makepkg ? > > makepkg can not do this. > > Allan > > -- Anton [WARM-RIPE] Stack ltd division head tel. 8 (3822) 555-797

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[arch-general] Build from source question.
by Anton 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

Good day. I'm going to compile all needed packages for archlinux. There are many source mirrors at the net not only URLs from PKGBUILD. Usually it is "distfiles" dir from gentoo or freebsd. It contains sources for their ports. I want use this sources. How can I to make makepkg to look for source in my LAN mirrirs to get it first from there and only then from PKGBUILD's url ? For example in CRUX pkgmk.conf there is PKGMK_SOURCE_MIRRORS=(...) wich point to list of such mirrors. I looking for the same in archlinux. -- Anton [WARM-RIPE] Stack ltd division head tel. 8 (3822) 555-797

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[arch-general] INFO, Java SE 6 Update 12 Build 02
by Amanai 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

The earlier (unstable) build from Sun Java SE Update 12 Build 02 have now full 64 bit broswer support. Finally Sun have make it.

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[arch-general] Status of swt and azureus/vuze
by Ondřej Kučera 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Hello all, this has been brought on a couple of times before but never resolved. The situation is to my knowledge as follows: (1) There is an azureus package in [extra]. It is very much outdated (I think it hasn't been really updated for about at least a year) and it has been orphaned for most of the time. (I'm not sure if it even works anymore but perhaps it does.) The only nice thing about is package is that it is built from Azureus sources instead of using the precompiled Azureus binaries provided by upstream (although it is maybe questionable whether or not this is an advantage or how big). (2) There is a swt package in [extra], version 3.3.2. It has been flagged out of date (I may have done that myself, I'm not sure) for some time now, version 3.4 has been released in June, almost half a year ago. This package, too, is built from sources instead of provided binaries. The only package depending on swt is the above mentioned azureus. (3) There is a vuze package in unsupported (vuze is the new name of azureus for those who aren't familiar). It is up-to-date, only it is not built from sources. It just more or less takes the provided binaries and uncompress them into /opt/vuze. This package has its own version of SWT bundled in, I've tried at least to save some disk space by removing bundled swt.jar and using the one from [extra], unfortunately vuze then wouldn't start. I'm not sure where the error lies, I suspect it has something to do with the way swt in [extra] is built but I may be wrong (I can provide more details, the error message for example, if anyone's interested). My personal conclusion: not that many users really use vuze, because I seem to be the only one complaining here all the time (I think this is at least the third time I'm opening this). :-) (On the other hand vuze in unsupported has almost 50 votes, so probably users use this version instead of the outdated version in [extra].) Also, devs probably don't want to maintain vuze or swt, I'm not blaming them at all (there has been an e-mail describing how tricky it is to compile it from sources), and when there's no one to use it, what's the point anyway? I think one of two things should happen. (a) Someone (ideally just one person) - a dev I mean - will adopt azureus again, rename it to vuze and update it to the latest version, alongside with swt. Then the vuze package in unsupported can be deleted. (b) Both azureus and swt will be dropped from extra. Then the vuze in unsupported will become more or less "official" (or at least the only available version in ArchLinux world) and perhaps a TU can then move it to [community] if they feel like maintaining it. It might also be possible to create a swt package in unsupported and let vuze depend on it (because perhaps there are more applications out there that could depend on swt) - if one sticks to the precompiled binaries, it's not that hard to maintain it. Any ideas or solutions? Should I for example file a bug report instead? Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] Move repo-maint emails to the arch-commits list?
by Grigorios Bouzakis 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > Am Dienstag 16 Dezember 2008 16:55:33 schrieb Aaron Griffin: >> I got an email today saying that the repo maintenance emails are kinda >> spammy on the arch-dev-public list. What do you guys think about >> moving it off to another list. Either the private list, or the commits >> list? >> >> Opinions? > > What about moving them to the dust bin? ;-) Seriously, it would be enough if > only a mail were sent when something went wrong. Those "The following files > are out of date" are of no use imho. (I doubt that anyone reads and checks > them all) After months on manual deletion, i decided and made a filter to delete em automagically without me even seeing them some days ago. I think it would be much more helpful and desired if such emails were generated for new packages entering the repos, community too. Greg

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.27.9-1
by Tobias Powalowski 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] request for toolchain signoffs
by Andreas Radke 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

I've pushed a glibc 2.9-2 to testing. I have added all changes made in Fedora's FC10 2.9-3 rpm. They have included some minor fixes and a workaround for the name resolving issue. This should fix our FS #12215. Now we need to know if there are still DNS problems. If it's solved I'd like to push it quickly to core. New gcc versions are not far away... -Andy

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[arch-general] Dovecot imap processes pinning CPU
by David Rosenstrauch 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

In recent days, dovecot's "imap" processes keep getting stuck. Each time I check my server there's a bunch of "imap" processes (sometimes 2 of them, sometimes 4, sometimes 6) that are using all of the box's CPU. And worse, there's no way to kill the processes either (neither kill -15 or kill -9 works), which means that I wind up having to reboot the box every time this happens. REALLY irritating. I don't normally even *see* the imap processes in htop, as I think they're pretty short lived. And I'm not sure what they're looping trying to do. My debugging skills on Linux are a bit weak, and so I don't know how to look at the process and see what it's doing. Also, not sure what's changed on my system to cause this, as this is definitely a recent problem. Maybe the upgrade to Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (since I usually use T'Bird to access my email). I don't seem to run into this problem when I use Squirrelmail. Anyone have any idea what the problem might be? Or, if not, then suggestions on how I might be able to debug the situation myself? TIA, DR

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[arch-general] pysol/python broken?
by Javier Vasquez 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Hi all, I'm trying to run pysol, but as soon as I get to load a game, pysol crashes: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/app.py", line 529, in mainloop self.runGame(id, random) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/app.py", line 626, in runGame self.menubar.updateFavoriteGamesMenu() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/tile/menubar.py", line 884, in updateFavoriteGamesMenu self.updateGamesMenu(submenu, games) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/tile/menubar.py", line 809, in updateGamesMenu menu.delete(0, 'last') File "/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 2670, in delete if c in self._tclCommands: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/pysol", line 32, in <module> sys.exit(main(sys.argv)) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/main.py", line 374, in main app.mainloop() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/app.py", line 529, in mainloop self.runGame(id, random) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/app.py", line 626, in runGame self.menubar.updateFavoriteGamesMenu() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/tile/menubar.py", line 884, in updateFavoriteGamesMenuJavier. -- Javier self.updateGamesMenu(submenu, games) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pysollib/tile/menubar.py", line 809, in updateGamesMenu menu.delete(0, 'last') File "/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 2670, in delete if c in self._tclCommands: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable Before that, when just running pysol, there were other errors regarding no having a sound device, which is OK since I don't, :) However these other errors when loading any game make pysol crash... Thanks Javier.

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[arch-general] bug in pacman? or something else?
by Sentinel 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Hello, Is this a bug, or pacman can not correctly figure out the version of heimdal? Or maybe I am missing something...? I installed wireshark but with a workaround. I edited the PKGBUILD end deleted the heimdal dependency. As I have the correct version of heimdal installed it was built successfully (that is why the output below wants to reinstall wireshark). Bud I don't think this workaround is realy KISS. root@sentinel:/home/sentinel# pacman -S wireshark warning: wireshark-1.0.4-3 is up to date -- reinstalling resolving dependencies... error: cannot resolve "heimdal>=1.2.1", a dependency of "wireshark" error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: wireshark: requires heimdal>=1.2.1 root@sentinel:/home/sentinel# pacman -Q heimdal heimdal 1.2-2 Tom

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[arch-general] Missing Deluge plugins
by Mordechai Peller 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

After a upgrading Deluge (I think it was to 1.0, but I'm not sure) I lost all plugins except Blocklist and Labels. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Replace syslog-ng with rsyslog
by Ghost1227 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > >> Aaron Griffin schrieb: >> >>> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12314 >>> >>> Just want to know what you guys think about this. The biggest concern, >>> from a lot of people, appears to be that syslog-ng is dual licensed, >>> so patches may get denied because they are already in the pay version. >>> >> I didn't look at rsyslogd, but I am actually happy with syslog-ng. So unless >> we have a REAL reason for switching (and some bitchy licensing concerns are >> not a real reason to me) I vote -1. >> >> >> > > http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-rsyslog_ng_comparison.html > I hadn't seen that before, but I must admit, I'm intrigued... I'll be looking into rsyslog more.

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[arch-general] arch release schedule
by Dieter Plaetinck 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Hi all, Any estimation when the next arch release will be? Or will it be announced on this mailing list a few days before? that would be good enough too. The reason I'm asking is AIF has again undergone many changes. I could start working now on a usable, reasonably stable alpha release without lvm/dm_crypt support, or if there's more time I can try to stabilize those features as well. Like Aaron said, it would be nice to have aif as an alternative, experimental installer on the installcd, I would like to synchronize my schedule a bit with the next release. Dieter

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[arch-general] customized ArchLinux install CD with speech support
by Chris Brannon 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

I am happy to announce the first release of a modified ArchLinux CD for i686 with speech support. The .iso should be almost equivalent to the FTP installer, with one exception: it starts speaking at boot. One may obtain the image via HTTP or via BitTorrent. Download URL: http://cmb.tysdomain.com/talking-arch-ftp.iso Torrent: http://members.cox.net/cmbrannon/talking-arch-ftp.iso.torrent Note that it is a trackerless torrent, and it won't work with older clients. Thanks to Tyler for hosting the downloadable image. The following list of steps is a brief guide to installing ArchLinux with speech. I haven't tested the install process, because my machines are all occupied. If anyone has trouble with it, send me a private email. The instructions assume that your root partition will be mounted on /mnt. Change /mnt to something else if this assumption doesn't hold. 1. Use the installer on the CD, as per the beginner's guide. 2. Install the alsa-utils and espeak packages: pacman --root=/mnt -S alsa-utils espeak 3. Install the speakup and espeakup packages. These are not yet available in the community repository. There are two ways to install them, depending on how much you trust me. Alternative 1: Use the binary packages from my website. I promise that the speakup package will always match the kernel version available from the official repos. Append the following two lines to /etc/pacman.conf and /mnt/etc/pacman.conf: [blind] Server = http://members.cox.net/cmbrannon/blind/i686 Install the packages from my custom repository: pacman --root=/mnt -Sy speakup espeakup Alternative 2: Build the packages from source, using the PKGBUILDs available from unsupported. For convenience, the URLs are: http://aur.archlinux.org/download/speakup/speakup.tar.gz http://aur.archlinux.org/download/espeakup/espeakup.tar.gz If I were going to choose this option, I would probably chroot into the newly installed ArchLinux system in order to build the packages. 4. Customize /mnt/etc/rc.conf: Add speakup and speakup_soft to the MODULES array. Add alsa and espeakup to the DAEMONS array. We also need to save the state of the sound card, so that it will be retrieved on reboot. Execute the command "alsactl store" and copy the file /etc/asound.state to /mnt/etc/asound.state. When you boot the system from the hard disk, it should start speaking. -- Chris Disclaimers: I am in no way associated with ArchLinux. This CD image is not an official release. It is provided solely for the convenience of myself and other blind / visually impaired users. It comes with absolutely no warranty. Download and use at your own risk. -- Chris

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[arch-general] Kernel PKGBUILD proposition: Ease custom kernel compilation.
by Nicolas Bigaouette 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Hi all! Since a couple of years of using Arch, I often wanted to compile a custom kernel, as many others did. There is many, many, many! forum threads about that, a couple of wiki pages too, with questions and howtos. Many efforts has been put to create new PKGBUILDs[1-2] to ease the effort of this. Unfortunately, these PKGBUILDs suffer from some drawback: 1) They are placed on a wiki which can be edited by everybody. This mean it is not a trusted place to store a PKGBUILD, specifically one as vital as the kernel's. 2) They tend to be forgotten and not updated anymore. This can lead to an unbootable kernel, rendering all this useless. 3) They do not take advantage of the devs' work: They are the best one to trust for a quality PKGBUILD. They also have all the feedback from Arch users, bug reports, etc. They know what has changed in the kernel and what needs to be adapted for the installation, for example new "provides=()". A PKGBUILD from a wiki page or a forum post might be good at the time of post, but be outdated just days latter... 4) They build a kernel which is way different then the stock one, for example because they don't have the same patchset. Users most often wants to build a custom kernel just to try it, change some configurations, add one or two patch, optimize for their own machines, etc. Maily, they just want to take the existing one, change a couple of things, and be ready. One also wants to install this kernel side by side with the stock one, at least until his own kernel is stabilized and running as wanted. Actually, Arch's stock kernel does not allow that. What I propose is some simple modifications to the PKGBUILD so users can try to compile their own kernel based on the original, trusted, working and approved one. With theese modifications, one only needs to add a "kernel name" to the pkgname: "pkgname=kernel26-mykernel" for example. Nothing else is needed to compile a custom kernel. The created package would sit without problem side by side with the stock kernel. Also, if the pkgname is kept to "kernel26", then the stock -ARCH kernel will be built. This approach has many advatanges: 1) The patch is relativelly small: not much is changed in the original PKGBUILD. 1) Nothing changes for the devs. They continue to provide a quality kernel to Arch users. 2) Users who wants to compile a custom kernel can just sync abs, change the pkgname and install a new kernel, in the KISS philosophy. They know that if they just change the name, they will have the same package so they can easily test whatever feature/patch/bug solution/optimization they want. 3) Because one only needs to change the pkgname, they use the devs' high quality, tried and truth PKGBUILD. When a new kernel is out, they can sync the devs' modifications easily. 4) Bugs affecting the kernel can be easily tested for solutions. Affected users just need to compile a "-testing" kernel where a patch is applied, install it and see if it works, without having to risk breaking his system by replacing -ARCH kernel with an unbootable one. 5) Better feedback to the devs since the users would be using (almost) the same PKGBUILD as the original one. 6) Simplify a lot all these "custom kernels" threads and wiki posts. I did "maintained" such a patch for myself because I wanted to keep in sync with the original PKGBUILD. After posting it on the forum[3], I got some positive feedback. People reporting back said they liked the simplicity and the effectiveness of the method. They also positively tested it with different configuration. The patch should be applied to revision 19747 for i686 or 19749 for x86_64. It modifies the PKGBUILD and also slightly the kernel26.install and kernel26.preset file. I am thus reporting this to be include in the official file. I think it would be a great addition to an already great distro. I am open to discussion on the subject. I hope I am posting this on the right mailing list and that it can be included! :) Sincerely, big_gie [1] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_with_ABS [2] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Custom_Kernel_Compilation_with_ABS [3] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=37579

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[arch-general] foo & bar
by Grigorios Bouzakis 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/

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[arch-general] Update to latest jre/jdk break Eclipse
by Christian Babeux 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Hi, I recently updated my laptop, and it updated JRE and JDK. After that update Eclipse won't start. I don't know if it need rebuilding because I saw on the dev list that we are no longer using Sun's JVM and opted for the open-source one (openjdk) (correct me if I am wrong) ? Anyway here the relevant versions of the packages : eclipse 3.4.1-1 jdk 6u11-1 jre 6u11-1 I attached the Eclipse log file with this message. *EDIT*: For some reasons the list wouldn't let me post the log file so here a link: http://pastebin.com/m1beb7eb9 Any ideas why it's broken ? Thank you, Christian Babeux

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.27.8-1
by Tobias Powalowski 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Welcome Geoffroy Carrier!
by Aaron Griffin 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

I want to wish a warm welcome to our new developer and bluetooth maintainer, Geoffroy Carrier (gcarrier) For those who don't know Geoffroy, he's been with us for some time, helped out with pacman development (in particular, with code in the signed-packages arena), and has been a TU for since May of this year. He plans on primarily helping us out with Bluetooth packages (which we've been slacking on these days), among other things. Hip-hip-hooray!

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[arch-general] Keyboard's keymap now changed since evdev upgrade
by Will Siddall 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hey all, I say I'm pretty comfortable with everything in arch now, but this keyboard issue is starting to drive me nuts. Not too long ago, the change from using kbd to evdev was made and ever since then, my keyboard is all messed up. I can still use my keyboard, but specific keys are changed around. Looking around, everyone is refering to issues with KDEMod, but I'm using Gnome and using the Evdev-Managed Keyboard. I specified in my 10-keymap.fdi rule file the proper settings and updated my xorg.conf with no change. The real issue I have is my arrow keys don't work anymore (except for the up arrow is giving me the ScreenCap window) and using xev, the keys are bringing back keycodes for other events. Which is making it REALLY hard to work with vi and just working with the command line in general. Am I actually going to have to re-key all my keycodes by hand? or is there a way to find out what's going on and properly set my key events? Thanks, Will

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[arch-general] "ArchLinux on Eeee PC 901" in "freiesMagazin 12/2008"
by Johannes Held 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Hey Folks! freiesMagazin 12/2008 [1] published an article about ArchLinux on Asus Eee PC 901. [1]: http://freiesmagazin.de/ -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version

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[arch-general] [Warning] Update your php installation
by Pierre Schmitz 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Hi all, I wrote this mail to avoid any confusion about the last two updates of the php package. For the lazy ones: Make sure to update to php-5.2.7-2 In detail: php-5.2.7-1 fixes some security issues. Imho the most serious one is the following described by Stefan Esser: http://www.suspekt.org/2008/12/05/php-527-and-ziparchiveextractto/ Other important changes are summarized in the official changelog which can be found at: http://www.php.net/releases/5_2_7.php Yesterday Jürgen Hötzel noticed that this new version of php breaks magic_quote_gpc. (http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=46759) Well, it does not quote anything when enabled. Even though magic_quotes are disabled by default and shouldn't be used at all, this is a serious bug for those who still use apps that rely on this feature. I fixed this bug with the php-5.2.7-2 package. Especially those who have magic_quotes enabled should update to this version. Maybe there will be another upstream release soon. Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre(a)jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

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[arch-general] Xorg change and intel drivers make me sad.
by Daniel Quinn 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

I'm not sure if the arch-general is the place to ask these kinds of questions, so if it is not, please redirect me to where this is more appropriate. The latest change to use Xorg-7.4 appears to have brought with it the requirement that I switch from the old xf86-video-i810 video drivers to the newer xf86-video-intel ones. Unfortunately, this introduces a number of serious for my Thnkpad (x41): Video (mplayer) in fullscreen is choppy and slow. Complaints of my hardware being too slow etc. All of my compiz-effects have suffered crippling performance losses. If left alone for about 15min, the screen blanks and cannot be-activated. Switches to the console fail and the box is non-responsive on the network. Basically the whole machine locks up. What is the "Arch way" out of this? I heard that the new kernel that isn't in the tree yet is supposed to fix this, and there's also the fact that the old config worked just fine. I'd like to go back, but I'm unsure as to how to do so without running into this same problem when I run "pacman -Syu" again. Any help/suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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[arch-general] Offer help for our ISO building
by Gerhard Brauer 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Hi, i would like to offer my help to the ISO build and test procedure. I'm sure i have the time and skill to help on archiso and installer skripts. Currently i will look deeper to get the isolinux thing get running as a maybe alternative to grub-legacy. Also to get the keyboard/font selection and the time zone setting better integrated in the installer. Also if there are concrete things to do feel free to contact me. Regards Gerhard "gerbra"

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] libpcap, ppp
by Thomas Bächler 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Thomas Bächler schrieb: > I think all the libpcap rebuilds in core/extra are done now, so I need > signoffs for the core packages libpcap and ppp. > > I am signing off on libpcap x86_64, I have not tested ppp. Ping? Anyone using ppp on Arch (router box based on Arch, running testing)? Anyone tried tcpdump/wireshark from testing? At this point, I'd also accept signoffs from users, as no dev seems to have Arch on his router ...

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[arch-general] PKGBUILD and DOS line endings
by Alessandro Doro 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

I found in AUR a PKGBUILD with DOS line endings. See what happens: $ makepkg : command not found ==> ERROR: An unknown error has occured. Exiting... makepkg simply sources "$BUILDSCRIPT" and bash treats '\r' literally. The PKGBUILD maintainer is surely to be blamed and I don't think that `makepkg' should try to catch this error (sorry for some innocent user). Just wanted to expose this "feature". bye

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[arch-general] [arch-general@archlinux.org] Midori + sun jre plugin
by Javier Vasquez 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

Hi, Does anyone know how to enable sun jre plugin within midori. Midori actually recognizes the flash plugin pretty well, but I can't get it to work on web pages requiring jre... I'm liking midori because of being lighter than seamonkey on my box, but I miss jre support... I was looking for a midori distribution list, but found none, so I was hoping someone under arch-general would know, :) Thanks, -- Javier

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[arch-general] state of archiso?
by Chris Brannon 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

I may have found an issue with the archiso scripts. The hooks /lib/initcpio/hooks/boot-cd and /lib/initcpio/hooks/boot-usb call on /sbin/udevsettle and /sbin/udevtrigger, but those binaries no longer exist. -- Chris

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[arch-general] extra = nessus-core & co.
by Amanai 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

can someone please update the 2006 nessus build to the latest stable 3.2.1 ;) thank's

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[arch-general] problems with ivman? hal? pmount?
by Ryan Sims 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

I'm working on switching from KDE to openbox, and I'm playing around with ivman automounting. After reading the wiki page[1] & following the instructions, I find that I still can't get USB devices to automount as a user. I can run ivman as a daemon, and it automounts just fine, except that it creates the mount points as root:root, so I can't access them. If I run ivman as a user, nothing gets automounted. When I run ivman -d, or when I run a pmount-hal '/path/listed/in/ivman/debug/output' I get a lot of these messages: process 17673: The last reference on a connection was dropped without closing the connection. This is a bug in an application. See dbus_connection_unref() documentation for details. Most likely, the application was supposed to call dbus_connection_close(), since this is a private connection. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace Any help? [1]http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ivman PS. I've also been exploring automounting with udev, but I run into the same permissions problem with pmount: users can't access the file. I would also welcome advice in this direction, if anyone's interested. -- Ryan W Sims

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[arch-general] pm-utils not working
by Sentinel 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hellou, I tried to look for somebody with a similar problem on the arch forum, but with no success, that is why I'm writing here. After a recent upgrade when a click on the shutdown menu in gnome the hibernate and suspend buttons are no longer present. If I try to suspend or hibernate from console it has no effect. My /var/log/pm-powersave.log and pm-suspend.log are attached to this mail. Any idea what went wrong? Thanks! Tom /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/sched-powersave false: **sched policy powersave OFF success. Initial commandline parameters: Thu Dec 4 09:46:12 CET 2008: Running hooks for hibernate. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk hibernate hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging hibernate hibernate: Linux sentinel 2.6.27-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 28 10:56:24 UTC 2008 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Module Size Used by ipv6 260260 12 i915 31232 2 drm 74280 3 i915 tun 12548 0 vboxdrv 66072 0 cpufreq_ondemand 8588 1 fuse 52892 4 joydev 11584 0 snd_seq_oss 31872 0 snd_seq_midi_event 8192 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 49968 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 8332 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss 40192 0 snd_mixer_oss 16512 1 snd_pcm_oss iTCO_wdt 12196 0 iTCO_vendor_support 4996 1 iTCO_wdt serio_raw 7172 0 yenta_socket 25228 1 pcspkr 4352 0 sg 28852 0 uhci_hcd 24080 0 ohci1394 30256 0 ehci_hcd 35852 0 rsrc_nonstatic 12672 1 yenta_socket psmouse 38288 0 ieee1394 80452 1 ohci1394 video 18064 0 output 4608 1 video intel_agp 27068 1 snd_hda_intel 368944 6 container 5248 0 wmi 7592 0 usbcore 134256 3 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd snd_pcm 69636 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 21384 4 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 9224 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 8964 1 snd_hda_intel snd 50724 17 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 8160 1 snd agpgart 30804 3 drm,intel_agp arc4 3712 2 ecb 4608 2 crypto_blkcipher 17540 1 ecb thermal 17052 0 evdev 11296 6 fan 6148 0 button 7824 0 b43 128412 0 rfkill 10008 1 b43 mac80211 158876 1 b43 cfg80211 25224 1 mac80211 led_class 5508 1 b43 battery 12036 0 input_polldev 5256 1 b43 ac 6020 0 loop 16140 0 acpi_cpufreq 9228 1 freq_table 5632 2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq processor 34732 4 thermal,acpi_cpufreq b44 28048 0 ssb 40324 2 b43,b44 pcmcia 35116 2 b43,ssb pcmcia_core 33812 5 yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic,b43,ssb,pcmcia mii 6528 1 b44 rtc_cmos 11424 0 rtc_core 17564 1 rtc_cmos rtc_lib 4480 1 rtc_core ext3 126344 3 jbd 46100 1 ext3 mbcache 8708 1 ext3 sd_mod 27160 6 sr_mod 16708 0 cdrom 35360 1 sr_mod ata_piix 18308 0 ahci 30348 5 ata_generic 6788 0 libata 153120 3 ata_piix,ahci,ata_generic scsi_mod 96460 4 sg,sd_mod,sr_mod,libata dock 9616 1 libata total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2067244 618052 1449192 0 22452 209740 -/+ buffers/cache: 385860 1681384 Swap: 2147000 0 2147000 success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave hibernate hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub hibernate hibernate: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/11netcfg hibernate hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth hibernate hibernate: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50ntpd hibernate hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager hibernate hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55battery hibernate hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55wicd hibernate hibernate: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/wicd/suspend.py", line 31, in <module> proxy_obj = bus.get_object('org.wicd.daemon', '/org/wicd/daemon') File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in __init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.wicd.daemon was not provided by any .service files Returned exit code 1. Thu Dec 4 09:46:13 CET 2008: Inhibit found, will not perform hibernate Thu Dec 4 09:46:13 CET 2008: Running hooks for thaw /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55battery thaw hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager thaw hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50ntpd thaw hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth thaw hibernate: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/11netcfg thaw hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub thaw hibernate: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave thaw hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging thaw hibernate: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk thaw hibernate: success.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Can we trust our mirrors?
by Gerhard Brauer 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Am Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:40:59 -0600 schrieb "Dan McGee" <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com>: > So where do we stand on all of this? As I showed above, the makepkg > and repo-add pieces are pretty much in place. We've done a decent > amount of work on the libalpm/pacman side of things, but it isn't > complete yet and is very rough around the edges. This is something > that is very doable if people want to jump in and help us get this > done. Obviously knowledge of C would be helpful, but we can always use > some beta testers to help us work out kinks if necessary. > > -Dan I'm also very interessing to help. I think, mostly with testing but i'm sure i have some ideas too. It is ok to check out the named git repos or could you give/setup a more complete test enviroment? Gerhard

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Grub2
by RedShift 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Ronald van Haren wrote: > Hi all, > > Grub2 is now in my staging dir for both architectures. I'll move it > into extra shortly. > > Things to know: > - config file changed to /boot/grub/grub.cfg > - config syntax changed a bit > - most information can be found on the grub2 archwiki page [1] > > If you have any experience with grub2 and know your way around, the > wiki page still needs some attention for some more special options. > The basic stuff should be covered. > > If you have a more exotic configuration than I have, give it a try. I > can't test a lot of use cases myself. > > Ronald > > [1] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2 > > What's the deal with grub2 anyway, why is it taking so long for them to make a release? Glenn

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[arch-general] The future of bluetooth in ArchLinux
by Damjan Georgievski 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

As you might now, the bluetooth packages in Arch are not activelly maintained so the main developers were looking for help. I've expressed my readiness to help in any way I can, but I'd also like suggestions and help from other people here. So, I've created a git repository for bluetooth related PKGBUILDs http://damjan.softver.org.mk:8080/git/arch-bluetooth.git you can browse that repo to see the files there. The PKGBUILDs need a bit of updateing with the dependancies and descriptions IMHO. The dependencies are: * bluez is the base package it depends on dbus-core and glib * openobex * bluez-obexd is a a dbus service that implements obex push server and client and also ObexFTP afaik.. as a dbus service it can't be used on its own, but is used by some other application which brings us to... * bluez-gnome is a gnome applet, and some other gnome tools that with the help of obexd imlement all the interesting stuff you can do with bluetooth (pairing, sending files (object push), browseing for devices) All of the above programs and libraries are maintained by the Bluez project (www.bluez.org) Some additional packages are bluez-hcidump used for debuging (depends on bluez) and bluez-firmware needed for same rare devices (and really doesn't depend on anything). Next what I have there are python-pybluez and python-lightblue (depends on the publuez and openobex) which are two python libraries for working with bluetooth.. the second offering some higher level functionality. Finally there's kdebluetooth which although compiles fine with bluez-4.21 I don't think it actually works? The help I'd like would be: to define a TODO for bluetooth, helping with finding some patches that might be needed and any testing would be helpfull. I currently don't use Gnome or even KDE4 much (I use some KDE4 apps in awesome). I also can't build x86_64 yet. -- damjan

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[arch-general] opensp compile fails
by Baho Utot 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

OpenSp PKGBUILD fails to compile with the following error: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -I../generic -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -c ArcEngine.cxx -MT ArcEngine.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ArcEngine.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ArcEngine.lo In file included from ArcEngine.cxx:20: ../include/InternalInputSource.h:37: error: extra qualification 'OpenSP::InternalInputSource::' on member 'asInternalInputSource' make[3]: *** [ArcEngine.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/ARCH/opensp/src/OpenSP-1.5.1/lib' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/ARCH/opensp/src/OpenSP-1.5.1/lib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/ARCH/opensp/src/OpenSP-1.5.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 ==> ERROR: Build Failed. It looks like it is orphaned so Here is a patch to fix this: cat InternalInputSource.patch --- OpenSP-1.5.1~/include/InternalInputSource.h 2003-07-17 14:14:00.000000000 -0400 +++ OpenSP-1.5.1/include/InternalInputSource.h 2008-11-13 12:24:04.591406546 -0500 @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ void pushCharRef(Char ch, const NamedCharRef &); Boolean rewind(Messenger &); const StringC *contents(); - InternalInputSource *InternalInputSource::asInternalInputSource(); + InternalInputSource *asInternalInputSource(); ~InternalInputSource(); private: InternalInputSource(const InternalInputSource &); // undefined Here is a patch file for the PKGBUILD cat PKGBUILD.patch --- PKGBUILD 2008-12-02 20:27:40.102778984 -0500 +++ pkgbuild 2008-12-02 20:27:29.412780668 -0500 @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ cd $startdir/src/OpenSP-$pkgver pwd patch -Np1 -i ../opensp-gcc34.patch || return 1 + patch -Np1 -i ../InternalInputSource.patch || return 1 ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --disable-nls \ --enable-http \

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[arch-general] remove HWD from extra and wiki!
by Amanai 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

I think HWD is full of bugs and several times I was running in some problems with HWD. If you guys can't fix it, don't provide it. Anyway HWD is not maintained anymore.

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[arch-general] Mailman archives fixed
by Aaron Griffin 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

Finally fixed this little bugger. As far as I know, nothing was lost, it just wasn't generating html pages for the mails. Cheers, Aaron

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[arch-general] Solved: xorg-server 1.5 upgrade screen problem.
by Javier Vasquez 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 12/1/08, Javier Vasquez <jevv.cr(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 11/30/08, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 16:29 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: >>>>>> Also, the server flag: >>>>>> >>>>>> Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" >>>>>> >>>>>> Doesn't help getting this solved... >>>>> >>>>> Input devices have nothing to do with video devices. >>>>> I think it's a conflict between your framebuffer console and xorg which >>>>> causes this problem. Framebuffer consoles and Xorg videodrivers have >>>>> always been a problem here, it's two direct hardware access things >>>>> competing against eachother. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. >>>> >>>> Well, it wasn't a problem before the last update to 1.5.3. I had the >>>> following uncommented in the device section: >>>> >>>> # Option "UseFBDev" "true" >>>> >>>> Now that I have commented it out, I still got the problem (of course >>>> after rebooting since I can't restart X). Moreover, just in case, I >>>> also removed atyfb (modprobe -r, and then startx), and the problem >>>> persists... >>>> >>>> So I'm not sure if the problem is a frame buffer one. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Javier >>> >>> OK, I'm done with trials, no luck... I filed a bug then, 12327... >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> Javier >>> >> >> I missed one trial, removing the vga mode from boot parameter (which >> activates vesa FB Ibelieve). When doing it the problem vanishes... >> >> I requested a bug closure, hopefully it'll close... >> >> I was left with with pretty big fonts at the console though, which I >> don't like. I was using terminus v16b under 1024x768 before, but >> that's too big now. I tried v14b, but that didn't make a difference, >> and v12n is not supported, it fails... So I tried alt-8x8, and I like >> the size, but I don't like the font which at this size looks a bit >> ugly... any recommendations are welcome... >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Javier >> > > Hmm, it looks like I can't set a font smaller than the 16, since I > lose the fonts when closing X... :( > > -- > Javier > It took me a while, but I finally figured things up. I don't understand why I never needed this stuff before, but actually now I got 1280x1024@75 in my console with terminus font v20b, looking nice, and I can go back/forth from X... Here are my settings: /etc/rc.conf MODULES=(fuse r8169 slhc atyfb) /etc/modprobe.conf options atyfb mode=1280x1024@75 That's pretty much what solved things, :) Thanks, -- Javier

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[arch-general] xorg-server 1.5 upgrade screen problem.
by Javier Vasquez 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

Hi all, By reading "http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging", the upgrade on xorg-server to 1.5 was not hard for the input devices. I'm using the Hal approach. However I have trouble with the screen. I'm using the mach64 driver with 1280x1024 mode and 24 bits depth, and whenever I try to switch to console (with atyfb @ 1024x768) all I get is a balck screen and the monitor complaining with out of sync... Also when terminating my X session, exiting fluxbox (I use startx to get into X), I get the same thing, so I never can get back to console. Any one experiencing the same thing? Any suggestions? I don't remember reading about it in the Xorg_input_hotplugging page, :) Thanks, -- Javier

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[arch-general] x86_64 for devs and TUs: finally here!
by Geoffroy Carrier 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

I've talking about this for a long time. Here it is, a x86_64 build (virtual) machine for every dev and TU who needs one. So please drop me an E-mail with your desired login and a ssh public key. If you don't have a ssh keypair: ssh-keygen -t rsa Then the public key is in $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa.pub Everyone will have complete sudo rights unless we find a better policy. So you shouldn't use it to store any private data... More info to come, I'll write it down for the first users! BTW, devs/TUs who were provided an account on any of my server will have to move to the new solution within a few weeks. -- Geoffroy Carrier

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] wpa_supplicant 0.5.11-1
by Gerhard Brauer 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

Am Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:07:11 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org>: > Thomas Bächler schrieb: > > - Update 0.5.10->0.5.11 > > - Enabled dbus support (was already available on i686 in testing) > > > > The daemon and the gui are in testing for both architectures, > > please sign off. > > ping, any more signoffs? I could give a user signoff for i686. Gerhard

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[arch-general] Someone shoot sergej
by Grigorios Bouzakis 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

Literally, someone should shoot him. I dont know what internal TU discussions bring up so i will stick to the facts i am aware of. No.1: phrakture states. We have a problem with space on gerolde. No.2: Discussion in aur-general mailing list about cleaning up community No.3: pkgstats: Around 70% of packages in community have less than 5% usage. What sergej does. 1) He currently maintains more than 1/3 of community on his own. 2) He even maintains packages which are even present in extra!!!! http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13148 BTW theres been a comment that squirrelmail is in extra from voidnull on Nov. 7th and i flagged it out of date around 1 hour back. But its still there. In the meantime, he had time to add yet another package to the repo. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2657 Maybe he doesnt have scripts to remove packages? Just upload them? 3) The number of packages he maintains NEVER drops. I remember he had 660 a while back now its 686. And he has added 2 packages since yesterday evening. 4) Only 150 of them have more than 10 votes in the many years the AUR is alive and well. 5) If you think hey votes dont mean much check usage in pkgstats: http://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics 6) A large number of them doesnt even exist anymore. All that said i dont blame only Sergej for the above. He has picked up many other peoples packages throughout the years. Willysilly and xterminus come to mind to name a few. But keeping all those packages in the repo has proven to be a bad option in the long run. Many of those dont even belong to unsupported. Theyre crap. Especially Willysillys. Anyway, i know i aint a TU. Thats an excuse i ve heard before. But to anyone even thinking of bringing it up, take a few minutes to think about what have you done towards the right direction since i last brought that up. IIRC it was early 2008 or late 2007. Check the archive if you want a debrief. The community repository is, for the most part, a pile of shit. An application graveyard. PS. I wont even mention bfinch. I had raised doubts even when i wasnt aware he maintains a custom distro. Now that i do, well, figure the rest out yourself.. Greg

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[arch-general] x hotplugging probs
by David Rosenstrauch 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Having major probs after the upgrade to the latest X w/hotplugging. X starts, but keyboard and mouse are dead. The wiki page is really vague - I'm not really sure what/how I'm supposed to configure to make this work. It says I want to update the entries for things like input.xkb.layout, input.xkb.variant, input.xkb.rules, input.xkb.model, input.xkb.options, etc. in the 10-keymap.fdi file. But update them to what? I'm not sure what the values should be. Also, that only explains keyboard. Why isn't mouse working? Xorg.0.log tells me: (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput. I have these packages installed, and HAL running: xf86-input-evdev 2.0.7-1 xf86-input-keyboard 1.3.1-1 xf86-input-mouse 1.3.0-1 xf86-video-ati 6.9.0-5 xf86-video-vesa 2.0.0-2 Also, I can't currently disable hotplugging, since I don't have an xorg.conf file. (X has always been able to start fine without one; I believe it uses its own stock/internal one.) Do I really need to go through the pain of generating a conf file just to get this turned off??? There's got to be SOME way to get this to work. Help appreciated! DR

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[arch-general] hwd & lshwd
by Grigorios Bouzakis 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Does the latest version of hwd, make lshwd obsolete? lshwd returns no results conserning modules here while hwd works great. I dont remember exactly how it used to work in the past, hadnt used it much, but now it returns kernel modules too. Didnt lshwd take care of that part before? Greg

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Can we trust our mirrors?
by Gerhard Brauer 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Am Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:00:20 +0100 schrieb Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org>: > Pierre Schmitz schrieb: > > The simplest solution would be if we sign the db files > > (automatically) on gerolde. Of course this is less secure than > > signing every single package by its packager; but on the other side > > it would be easy to implement and there would be no overhead for > > packagers. > > If this is to provide any security, we need to stop using md5! md5 is > okay when trying to detect corrupted downloads, however it is > possible to find collisions and thus build a "bad" package that has > the same md5 as the good package. For myself i don't accept the "md5sum is bad" argument as a "stopper" for each idea to provide a pacman secure concept ;-) Current situation is: Everyone who offers a mirror could provide a manipulated pacman or bash package. He could reduce the content of a binaray to a simple rm -rf, fdisk or something. He only has to tar "his" package and edit the core.db.tar,gz If we sign our db files as a minimum! security: This would make package manipulating more difficult. Content changes of pacman or bash packages (*.pkg.tar.gz) with getting the same md5sum or sha checksum is surely not impossible - but much more difficult as in our current situation. So let's mak a first step! Gerhard >

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[arch-general] dmapi build failure
by Baho Utot 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

The abs build fails with the following: === build === make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install'. ./install-sh -o root -g root -m 755 -d /home/scrat/CORE/dmapi/pkg/usr//share/doc/dmapi ./install-sh -o root -g root -m 644 README /home/scrat/CORE/dmapi/pkg/usr//share/doc/dmapi make[1]: *** No rule to make target `install-lib'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/CORE/dmapi/src/dmapi-2.2.8' I have made a patch to fix this # #PKGBUILD.patch # --- PKGBUILD~ 2008-11-28 09:39:31.817672035 -0500 +++ PKGBUILD 2008-11-30 08:18:47.876723158 -0500 @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ autoconf ./configure --prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr make || return 1 - make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr/ install install-lib install-dev + make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr/ install install-dev # the static lib install -D -m644 libdm/.libs/libdm.a $startdir/pkg/usr/lib/libdm.a # and the header file, please

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] RFC: crda PKBUILD
by Sujith 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Thomas B,bd(Bchler wrote: > Aaron Griffin schrieb: > > Couldn't we set it as a dep of the wireless tools? That seems like it > > would install for the right people then. Considering you want to shut > > things off in the kernel, this will make some (most? no idea) wireless > > non-functional without this, right? It seems an optdepend of kernel26 > > would be easy to miss To set a new regulatory domain, 'iw' is required. 'iw' should be added to core too. > I think I remember that the wireless stack will fall back to a default > (minimal) set of channels if crda is missing (which is not too different > from the current behaviour). That's right, WORLD regulatory domain would be chosen if CRDA is missing. But it has a limited set of channels than what people were using so far, so expect a rash of 'wireless not working' bugs. :) The best method to accommodate the new regulatory infrastructure would be to set the country code on bootup, with the user's choice stored in /etc/rc.conf. Sujith -- http://sujith-m.blogspot.com

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[arch-general] kDE 3.5.9
by Baho Utot 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Is there a way to get the abs build files for kde 3.5.9? Is the svn repos tagged at 3.5.9 ? If so how? I would like to build them for a new computer of mine that has an old graphocs card and cpu.

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.27.7-1
by Tobias Powalowski 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] pkgstats and repo cleanup
by Grigorios Bouzakis 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Allan McRae <allan.mcrae(a)qimr.edu.au> wrote: > Hi devs, > > I have created a table of candidates for removal from the extra repo based > on <1% usage in the pkgstats results. I have gone through and flagged for > keeping packages which are i18n, makedepends, or otherwise needed (in pacman > testsuite, using on gerolde). See the list here: > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Allan/Extra_Repo_and_Pkgstats > > There is probably other categories of packages we should keep (e.g drivers) > and there are some fonts which might be considered i18n related so can you > all go through the list a cross out the ones to be kept and giving the > reason. > > In a couple of weeks time I will remove all the orphaned packages remaining > on that list and contact the maintainers of the rest so they can decide what > to do with their packages. > > Cheers, > Allan Hi Alan, Can i give some other extend to this? I can understand why you limit the list to only packages with 0.xy usage, but i think theres much more to cleanup than just those packages. Orphan or not.. Just by looking at the statistics, for which we owe a huge thanks to Pierre, its obvious that more than 50% of the packages in extra have 10% or less usage. Most of which are below 5%. While at the same time there are many packages in community with >10%. Those should definately go in extra. Most of the developers use em too. Also , many packages in extra, some of which are long unmaintained upstream, many multimedia & games packages come to mind but not limited to these. Those could go to community and even be left unmaintained with a small portion of good will. Anyway, all i am saying is dont focus only on packages having 0.xy usage. Greg

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[arch-general] Custom repository
by Baho Utot 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

I created a custom package repository to hold arch packages compiled locally. I compile a newer package from abs then I have on the current system and it is placed into my custom repos. I issue a pacman -Syu will pacman get the package from arch or will it install from my custom repository? Thanks

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Re: [arch-general] Custom repository
by Loui Chang 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:31:05AM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Loui Chang wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 09:13:55AM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: > > > >> I created a custom package repository to hold arch packages compiled > >> locally. I compile a newer package from abs then I have on the current > >> system and it is placed into my custom repos. > >> > >> I issue a pacman -Syu will pacman get the package from arch or will it > >> install from my custom repository? > > > > It will install from the repo with the newest version. > > Not really... it will install the package from the repo which comes first > in you pacman.conf. Ah that is right. Doh! That phenomenon is just a coincidence for me.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Away for Holidays
by Dieter Plaetinck 27 Nov '08

27 Nov '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > Hey all, > It's Thanksgiving here in the US. I will be away at my parents' house > all day, and am going camping on Friday. I won't be at a computer > until Saturday. > > Cheers, > Aaron > Have fun and don't forget to mention the Arch community! :-) (At thanksgiving the tradition is to say what you're thankful for right, or is that only in the movies?) Dieter

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[arch-general] Fwd: /etc/cron.hourly/ntp isn't working.
by Daenyth Blank 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

I'm using openntpd ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: root <daenyth(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 21:01 Subject: cron: /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.hourly To: root /bin/stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device /bin/stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device :: Stopping OpenNTPD [BUSY] [DONE] /bin/stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device :: Starting OpenNTPD [BUSY] [DONE]

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Re: [arch-general] Fwd: /etc/cron.hourly/ntp isn't working.
by Daenyth Blank 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

> this is because the init scripts use some fancy options to set colors. > This seems to be done by stty, which won't work on a fake tty like the > one used by cron. > I don't know why you're restarting openntpd from cron every hour though, > as it's a daemon that keeps running all the time. Restarting it has no > use. Well, I think I had added it because it seemed that after a long uptime it wasn't working properly... dunno. I've disabled it now.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Other things gleaned from package list statistics
by Dieter Plaetinck 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> There are a few packages people have installed that we have killed >> that show up really high on the list: >> >> liblbxutil-84.79 % >> csup -44.39 % >> xorg-xsm-43.74 % >> >> It might be worth posting a news item saying these packages are >> worthless on a modern-day Arch system (as long as you have a newer X)? >> I know I had some of them installed. >> > > Hmm, is there a more generic way to handle cases like this? -Qm can > help us in these cases, but considering how much people use the AUR, > we need to be careful. > Don't liblbxutil and xorg-xsm become orphans when the user upgrades to that particular X version? I noticed I don't have these packages and I don't even know why (I did clean up my orphans recently, like every good user should) I do have csup explicitly installed , because it used to be in the base-devel group. I guess that's where http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8242 - "Keep track of groups and allow upgrading them with pacman -Syu" - comes in.

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Re: [arch-general] [sqlite3] x86_64 version mismatch?
by Andreas Radke 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Am Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:54:09 +0100 schrieb Gerhard Brauer <gerhard.brauer(a)web.de>: > Hello, > > > in the extra.db.tar.gz on ftp.archlinux.org sqlite3 version for x86_64 > is 3.6.6-1. But the binary is > still /extra/os/x86_64/sqlite3-3.6.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz > > Seems that this version upgrade have done today (22.11) so could it be > possible that ftp.archlinux.org mirrors have currently only synced the > database file? Is it a missing upload or only a sync problem? > > Regards > Gerhard > The new package is still in my pipeline. We have issues with the db-updates. See dev-public list. -Andy

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] device-mapper 1.02.29-1 & lvm2 2.02.43-1
by Eric Bélanger 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Eric Bélanger schrieb: >> device-mapper 1.02.29-1 and lvm2 2.02.43-1 are now in testing for both >> arches. It's a minor upstream update. The most important change is: >> "Starting with LVM2 release 2.02.43, the device-mapper files are now >> included with the LVM2 releases (in ../lvm2)." >> I've modified the PKGBUILD accordingly. >> >> Please test and signoff. I would like 2 signoff for i686 because I don't >> use lvm2 on my i686 system so I could only do minor testing. As I believe >> few devs use this, signoffs from users are welcomed. > > Signoff x86_64 > > Still missing 1-2 signoffs for i686. Anyone? Devs or users? Thanks. Eric -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] new toolchain - major binutils/glibc bumps
by Emmanuel Benisty 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi, On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de> wrote: > I've bumped kernel-headers 2.6.27.6-2, binutils 2.19-1, glibc 2.9-1 and > rebuilt gcc-libc/gcc,gcc-gcj. I also fixed valgrind for new glibc. > Please test them all carefully. We usually run into some upstream > issues here. Especially new glibc: > > "There is one known potential problem with the name resolving which has > been extensively changed. Under some circumstance (always involving > broken servers) requests are not completely processed. Often a second > call fixes the problem. This might be fixed in the latest code, maybe > not. Unfortunately no reported has been able or willing to provide the > information needed to track down the problem." Bug is alive. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=59452 cheers.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] memcached
by Pierre Schmitz 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

>> PS: for php sites that only run on one server I think Xcache is also >> better >> then memcached, no context switching at all... >> PPS: do we use an opcode cache already for the php site(s)? eaccelerator? >> xcache etc? it can be a huge improvement > > APC is used for a PHP opcode cache, so yes, we do have this in place. APC does not only store opcodes, but e.g. Mediawiki uses it to store Objects in RAM. So memcached is not needed here. -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre(a)jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] bison 2.4-1
by Eric Bélanger 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 20:15 -0500, Eric Bélanger wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Eric Bélanger wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Andreas Radke wrote: >>> >>>> Am Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:47:56 -0500 (EST) >>>> schrieb Eric Bélanger <belanger(a)ASTRO.UMontreal.CA>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> bison 2.4-1 is in testing for both arches. Please signoff. >>>>> >>>>> Changes: minor upstream update, Added info file support. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>> please first make sure it doesn't cause this compile issue: >>>> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=58782 >>>> >>> >>> I have this build issue as well. I'll need to fix that before pushing bison >>> to core. I did tried to build bmpx that has bison as makedepends before >>> adding it to testing. It looks like it didn't triggered this problem. I'll >>> guess I'll use gcc for future tests. >>> >> >> It's already a known issue upstream: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-bison@gnu.org/msg01218.html >> >> There are plans to release a 2.4.1 soon to fix this problem. I'll probably >> just wait for 2.4.1 then. > > > Bison 2.4 also breaks compiling of webkit from svn. > Thanks for reporting. A fixed libwebkit is now in svn (available through abs). -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [arch-general] test
by Hubert Grzeskowiak 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > Silly me for not reading the docs - that list is required.. hah ts ts ts, evil ]:->

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Re: [arch-general] [.hu ftp mirror issue] unable (access denied) to rsync from rsync://rsync.archlinux.org/ftp/
by Gergely TAMAS 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi! Good catch... ;) The previously used ip alias has been deleted... > Can you open a bug report (http://bugs.archlinux.org, Arch Linux > project) saying your mirror location has changed IPs? Then all > relevant parties can address it there. Done. I used category 'System' - could not find a better suitable one. Thanks, -- Gergely

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Get Arch Link
by Dieter Plaetinck 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dusty Phillips <buchuki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think there should be a download link in the "About" text, a >> download link on the right hand side, and leave the "Get Arch" link on >> the menu. If anybody misses it in all three places they probably >> wouldn't pass Simo's "Are you human" test on the forum anyway. >> > > I still think there needs to be one in the giant "what's arch" blurb > on the main page. If you're reading that text, you're probably new and > looking for a download. > 1) +1 for general UI revamp. I think most of us agree that it's at _least_ "weird" to have so many important links in the bottom right corner, which is pretty much the least likely place to scan. 2) +1 for renaming "Get arch" to "Download" 3) I would put a new menu item in the top menu, called "About" which also links to the /about page 4) At the end of the 'about' talk, you can put a download link, you can really make it stand out there (after text, few empty lines, then in the center the blue 'download link') 5) I think 2 + 3&4 are better solutions then Aarons "adding a link to the download page in the "what's arch" blurb"-idea: it could be useful, but I think the top-right links really attract the eyes already, and 4 is a good fallback for users who take the other route. 6) The 'releases' block on frontpage: how relevant is any of the information in there?. Only the last release is somewhat relevant on the front page. I suggest removing the block there and moving the information to the download page. (which also needs a revamp/restructure btw, there is lots of wasted space there. 7) the 'package repositories' and 'recent updates' blocks and 'package search' field on the frontpage. Is any of that relevant on the frontpage? Maybe we should put an item 'Packages' in the top menu, and link to /packages. We could extend the packages page (or divide packages related things over multiple pages) to add an overview of available repositories, recently updated packages etc. Putting the above things together: the blocks on the right are gone, the 'documentation' , 'community' etc links can go up, replacing the blocks and making the links more visible. (I do think that having all links visible separately can be good thing - eg they are not hidden because of a menu with 2 levels whether it be dropdown or a tabbed menu with main items and subitems) When we get that far, we might as well swap right and left too: the top menu items aligned left, the links on the left, and the 'about box' and the news on the center/right, but this is more a matter of personal taste I guess. Just my 8 cents :-) PS: I can help with the redesign/restructure if needed, but preferably only after a consensus is reached. It's not that I really like designing things "for fun" but if we reach a (sort of) consensus and you lack the manpower, I would be glad to help. Dieter

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[arch-general] Was: Re: duplicate packages ?
by Jaroslav Lichtblau 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hi, you may directly talk to the maintainer of those 2 packages, to get the quickest answer. As you can read in the comments of the packages in AUR, rb_libtorrent was renamed to libtorrent-rasterbar by it's developers. Maybe they shouldn't be both in [community], but it's the way gcarrier is managing this transition. I suppose rb_libtorrent will dissapear once it's not needed by other packages. Cheers Jaroslav On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:21:35AM +0100, ianux wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering what is the difference between libtorrent-rasterbar and > rb_libtorrent, both in community? I don't see any in PKGBUILDs... > furthermore, there is no fixboost.patch for libtorrent-rasterbar and > an unused gcc4.3.patch for rb_libtorrent in ABS. > Are these duplicates or I missed something? > > -- > radio ianux - http://ianux.fr/ >

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[arch-general] DVD/CD Device /dev/dvd & Co Symlinks Are Broken
by Thomas Bohn 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

When I put my external DVD drive on my computer the devices look like this: ---snip--- /dev/dvd -> /dev/cd/dvd-4:0:0:0 /dev/cd/dvd- -> /dev/sr0 ---snip--- I can access the drive via /dev/sr0, /dev/cd/dvd- and even /dev/scd0 but not via /dev/dvd, because of the wrong enty in /dev/cd This what I got from the debug messages: ---snip--- Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: '/dev/cd/cdrom-' with target '/dev/sr0' has the highest priority 0, create it Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: creating symlink '/dev/cd/cdrom-' to '../sr0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: '/dev/cd/cdrw-' with target '/dev/sr0' has the highest priority 0, create it Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: creating symlink '/dev/cd/cdrw-' to '../sr0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: '/dev/cd/dvd-' with target '/dev/sr0' has the highest priority 0, create it Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: creating symlink '/dev/cd/dvd-' to '../sr0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: update old symlink '/dev/cd/cdrom-4:0:0:0' no longer belonging to '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sr0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: no reference left, remove '/dev/cd/cdrom-4:0:0:0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: update old symlink '/dev/cd/cdrw-4:0:0:0' no longer belonging to '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sr0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: no reference left, remove '/dev/cd/cdrw-4:0:0:0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: update old symlink '/dev/cd/dvd-4:0:0:0' no longer belonging to '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/block/sr0' Nov 17 23:27:43 proton udevd-event[3301]: no reference left, remove '/dev/cd/dvd-4:0:0:0' ---snip--- The right entries are removed in favour of the wrong entries and I have no idea why that is. Since I can't find the creation of this symlink anywhere in the udev scripts. I use the current udev version and the hal version from testing. But I think it is related to this rule in 81-arch.rules: ---snip--- ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", SYMLINK+="cd/cdrom-%b" ENV{ID_CDROM_CD_RW}=="?*", SYMLINK+="cd/cdrw-%b" ENV{ID_CDROM_DVD}=="?*", SYMLINK+="cd/dvd-%b" ENV{ID_CDROM_DVD_R}=="?*", SYMLINK+="cd/dvd-%b" ---snip--- The variable %b is missing. Where does this rule file gets its variables? I hope someone can help me. Thomas

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[arch-general] About libxaw
by Alessandro Doro 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

The last libxaw package (1.0.5-1) doesn't include version 8 of the library. This breaks some package in community. Example binaries linked to libXaw.so.8: · /usr/bin/lqtplay from libquicktime-1.0.3-2 · /usr/bin/FreeWRL_Message from freewrl-1.20.1-1 Should libxaw include libXaw8.a, libXaw8.so...? Or those packages need a rebuild? Side notes: 1. the libquicktime package doesn't depend on libxaw; 2. freewrl depends on libxaw; no version specified (it can't); 3. should libxaw package provide versioned libraries? Also /usr/lib/libXaw.so from libxaw-1.0.4-1 linked to libXaw8.so; now links to libXaw7.so. bye

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[arch-general] Archive xorg-server 1.4 on Arch Server
by pyther 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hello. I have updated to Xorg-server 1.5 from testing. However I get extremely low fps (60fps) when running glx-gears. The error I get in the terminal is "Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager. Falling back to classic." After googling I came across this bug report on gentoo tracker: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237468 >From my research it appears that many people who have Intel cards have this issue. I have the Intel 82945G/GZ using the xf86-video-intel driver. From the bug report it seems as if no work is going into supporting TTM, instead all the work with the driver is going into GEM support. I am not sure what TTM and GEM are, which makes my understand weak with the issue at hand. >From what I do understand it has something to do with dri (a backend?) I have updated libdrm to 2.4.1 and xf86-video-intel to 2.5.1 and continue to receive the error as many others do. I am currently in the process of compiling a new kernel that has GEM support. Following the directions from comment 41 of the bug report. >From reading though the bug report is seems as if this GEM technology is unstable and not ready for any type of release. If xorg-server 1.5 is moved from testing to extra, can we have an archive of xorg-server 1.4 and all related packages? This migration is going to affect a lot of archers with Intel cards. Many archers require much higher frames per second. By providing an archive of these packages it will allow new installations and people who upgrade a chance to downgrade to regain performance. Hopefully I was clear in my explanation if not feel free to ask me any questions. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Thank you, ~pyther

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] device-mapper 1.02.29-1 & lvm2 2.02.43-1
by Dieter Plaetinck 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Eric Bélanger wrote: > > Hi, > > device-mapper 1.02.29-1 and lvm2 2.02.43-1 are now in testing for both > arches. It's a minor upstream update. The most important change is: > "Starting with LVM2 release 2.02.43, the device-mapper files are now > included with the LVM2 releases (in ../lvm2)." > I've modified the PKGBUILD accordingly. > > Please test and signoff. I would like 2 signoff for i686 because I > don't use lvm2 on my i686 system so I could only do minor testing. As > I believe few devs use this, signoffs from users are welcomed. > > Eric > I'm a user, not a dev, running on i686. I couldn't find a definition of a 'signoff', but I updated abs, built the 2 new packages, they compiled fine, i installed them, rebooted my system and everything came up fine (dm_crypt+lvm based system). I also tested the basic commands (pvdisplay,lvdisplay) and even did an lvextend and resize2fs on a volume. everything still works fine. (didn't try making new/deleting LV/PV's etc though) Does this count as a "signoff" ? PS: Users cannot send to arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org, so fwiw I cc'd arch-general. Dieter

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[arch-general] packages feed and duplicates
by Attila 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Hi, i read the packages rss feed (http://www.archlinux.org/feeds/packages) and recognized that every entry is double in the list. Has anyone the same problem? I ask only if this is a known problem or if i should search where is my error. See you, Attila

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[arch-general] Fwd: arch-dev-public Digest, Vol 21, Issue 26
by Abdul Halim 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Hi. Sorry for the late reply. Me was wondering on how to comment on the bluez status till Dieter Plaetinck mail to arch-general. Bluez in testing will cause a dependency issue for gnokii. Please refer to the following URL: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=55108 Maybe gnokii can't compile against the new bluez libraries. Hopefully my info is not old news. I am just helping out cause I use bluez frequently... :-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <arch-dev-public-request(a)archlinux.org> Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM Subject: arch-dev-public Digest, Vol 21, Issue 26 To: arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:01:36 -0600 From: "Aaron Griffin" <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] bluez status? To: "Public mailing list for ArchLinux development" <arch-dev-public(a)archlinux.org> Message-ID: <d64a48980811130901l594798a6s660f73adcc167895(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Jud <jud(a)judfilm.net> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:56:02 +0300 > "Roman Kyrylych" <roman.kyrylych(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2008/10/16 Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com>: >> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Thayer Williams >> > <thayer(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Hugo Doria <hugodoria(a)gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Allan McRae >> >>> <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> >>>> Is anyone going to attempt this rebuild? This is holding up >> >>>> gnome which is holding up python which means I can't slack of at >> >>>> work doing rebuilds... I will do these if necessary but I have >> >>>> no way of testing any of these packages so it would be better if >> >>>> someone else did this. >> >>> >> >>> Same here. I do not have a way to test it. >> >>> >> >>> -- Hugo >> >>> >> >> >> >> I have no experience with the bluez stuff, but I do have bluetooth >> >> capability on my notebook and WinMo phone. I would be happy to test >> >> out any packages if we have a criteria to test against. >> > >> > Oh hey! My phone supports bluetooth too. I wonder what it'd take to >> > have it talk to my laptop... >> > >> >> Same here. >> I've setup myself to deal with bugs first though, >> but if noone will update it in a couple of days - I'll take a look at >> it and related gnome packages. >> >> -- >> Roman Kyrylych (????? ???????) > > Hi Devs, > > It's been sometime without any replies, would it possible for someone > to have ago at the Bluez packages please? > > If not, may I suggest that an open announcement be made for a new Dev > to take-over the Bluez packages and/or the Bluez packages be dropped to > the AUR for someone else to pickup the slack. Do we have anyone that regularly uses bluetooth and can test this?

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[arch-general] New udev rules
by Peter Lewis 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi folks, I'm new to posting here, but figured that it might be the place to ask about this kind of thing :-) I just bought a new printer/scanner - a Brother DCP-305C - and noticed that it's not included in the udev rules for sane (/etc/udev/rules.d/53-sane.rules), though quite a lot of similar models are. Basically the scanner wouldn't work until I added: # Brother DCP-350C ATTRS{idVendor}=="04f9", ATTRS{idProduct}=="01d0", MODE="0664", GROUP="scanner", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes" So... how does one go about getting this included in the default ruleset? Is it an Arch thing or done upstream? Thanks in advance, Pete.

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[arch-general] Fifa: Flexible Installer Framework for Arch linux
by Dieter Plaetinck 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi all, at first I wanted to make an automated installer for Arch Linux (with scripts that specify all the specific aspects of the system). When starting to build this, I looked at the archboot scripts (/arch/setup and /arch/quickinst on the install cd) and noticed that I could re-use lots of code if it would have been split up more (eg I can't just source the useful functions in /arch/setup, I have to source the whole thing and hence, start the installer). So I started writing "Fifa: the Flexible Installer Framework for Arch linux" : http://github.com/Dieterbe/fifa It's designed to be a general, flexible framework for installations. It uses the concepts of 'phases' and 'workers'. There are 4 phases (preparation, basics, system, finish), which can each invoke workers (to get a package list, install packages, install boot loader etc etc). The workers and phases can be overridden by creating profiles. So the whole idea is you can create whatever installation procedure you like (prescripted, autodetection, interactive,...) and you can combine functionality from different profiles and you can reuse lots of code. Keep it mind it's still very, very early in development. It doesn't work yet, but if you look at the code you'll see the basic ideas (and the code is maybe simpler then the explanation). Right now I'm still working on better understanding the archboot scripts, refactoring that code to make it reusable and building an automated, prescripted installer for myself. ( Once the basics are working, it should actually be very simple to port the current archboot scripts to this system. )

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[arch-general] Weird upgrade problem ??
by Niels Rasmussen 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi all I've just installed Arch linux again after 9 month with Ubuntu and several other distros (yeah, they all come back! :-)) I've followed "The Beginners Guide" and did everything as described. Anyway, I've got the system up and running, and now writing in X (openbox) from opera Mail. I've tried to install the nvidia-71xx driver because I know it supports my VideoCard Geforce 6600GT. But apparently it doesn't work, so I uninstalled it, reinstalled libgl, did a depmod -a and rebooted. Now in X I can install programs just fine with pacman but pacman -Syu results in some strange errors I havn't seen before. Here goes: bash-3.2# pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra 412,9K 1535,6K/s 00:00:00 [########################################################] 100% community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (59): bash-3.2.039-3 texinfo-4.13a-1 m4-1.4.12-1 autoconf-2.63-1 binutils-2.18-9 bzip2-1.0.5-3 openssl-0.9.8i-1 run-parts-2.30-1 ca-certificates-20080809-4 cracklib-2.8.13-1 e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2 popt-1.14-1 cryptsetup-1.0.6-2 dhcpcd-4.0.3-1 dialog-1.1_20080819-1 ed-1.1-2 filesystem-2008.07-1 fakeroot-1.10.1-1 file-4.26-1 flex-2.5.35-1 gmp-4.2.4-1.1 mpfr-2.3.2-2 gcc-4.3.2-1 gettext-0.17-2 grub-0.97-13 hdparm-8.9-1 hwdetect-0.9.1-2 util-linux-ng-2.14-1 udev-130-1 initscripts-2008.09-2 iputils-20071127-2 jfsutils-1.1.13-1 klibc-1.5.14-1 klibc-extras-2.5-1 klibc-kbd-1.15.20080312-7 klibc-module-init-tools-3.4-2 klibc-udev-130-1 libtool-2.2.6a-1 logrotate-3.7.7-3 man-pages-3.11-1 mdadm-2.6.7-1 mlocate-0.21-1 module-init-tools-3.4-1 nano-2.0.9-1 pam-1.0.2-2 pciutils-3.0.2-1 pcmciautils-015-2 perl-5.10.0-4 procinfo-19-3 procps-3.2.7-5 psmisc-22.6-2 rp-pppoe-3.10-1 sdparm-1.03-1 shadow-4.1.2.1-2 tzdata-2008h-1 vi-7.2.25-1 wget-1.11.4-1 which-2.20-1 xfsprogs-2.10.1-1 Total Download Size: 0,00 MB Total Installed Size: 250,03 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] checking package integrity... (59/59) checking for file conflicts [########################################################] 100% error: could not prepare transaction error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) klibc: /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm/Kbuild exists in filesystem klibc: /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm/a.out.h exists in filesystem klibc: /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm/acpi.h exists in filesystem klibc: /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm/agp.h exists in filesystem klibc: /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm/alternative-asm.h exists in filesystem klibc: /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm/alternative.h exists in filesystem === SNIP === Anyone knows what this is about ?? It is the first time I have experienced problems in Arch Linux. -- /Niels Registered Linux User #133791 Get counted at http://counter.li.org

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[arch-general] Arch USB Drive
by Aaron Griffin 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Got this in the mail today, so I thought I'd share a blurry picture with you all 8) http://flickr.com/photos/phrakture/3029993921/

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[arch-general] 22 fan site
by Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

http://ruger22.com/newpages/newindex.htm

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Re: [arch-general] 22 fan site
by timetrap＠gmail.com 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

I thought that mailing lists and personal productivity were mutually exclusive. ------Original Message------ From: RedShift Sender: arch-general-bounces(a)archlinux.org To: General Discusson about Arch Linux ReplyTo: General Discusson about Arch Linux Subject: Re: [arch-general] 22 fan site Sent: Nov 14, 2008 05:52 Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. wrote: > http://ruger22.com/newpages/newindex.htm You cost me 5 minutes of my productivity, I'm invoicing you for that! ;-) Glenn

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.27.6-1
by Tobias Powalowski 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] bitlbee *very* out-of-date
by kludge 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

hola, i'm currently rebuilding bitlbee to version 1.2.3 with a modified PKGBUILD from abs. the package in [extra] is only at version 1.0.4. it was last update two months ago today; that's six days *after* the current version was released upstream! for a while, there was no listed maintainer. then it was simo. now it's jeff mickey. i don't know how to find jeff, and over on the forum, it was suggested i post here. so... who's maintaining bitlbee, and you wanna roll up an updated package? many thanks! yrs, kludge

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[arch-general] php5.2.6 and iconv support failure
by Adam Stokes 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

iconv support does not seem to be complete in this package : Sample code : <?php echo iconv("ISO-8859-1", "UTF-8", "This is a test."); ?> php -i : Configure Command => './configure' '--prefix=/usr' '--sysconfdir=/etc/php' '--with-layout=GNU' '--with-config-file-path=/etc/php' '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/etc/php/conf.d' '--enable-inline-optimization' '--disable-debug' '--disable-rpath' '--disable-static' '--enable-shared' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--disable-cgi' '--with-readline' '--enable-pcntl' '--with-pear=/usr/share/pear' '--with-openssl=shared' '--with-zlib=shared' '--enable-bcmath=shared' '--with-bz2=shared' '--enable-calendar=shared' '--with-curl=shared' '--enable-dba=shared' '--without-db2' '--without-db3' '--with-db4=shared' '--with-gdbm=shared' '--enable-dbase=shared' '--enable-exif=shared' '--enable-ftp=shared' '--with-gd=shared' '--enable-gd-native-ttf' '--with-jpeg-dir=shared,/usr' '--with-png-dir=shared,/usr' '--with-gettext=shared' '--with-imap=shared' '--with-imap-ssl=shared' '--with-ldap=shared' '--enable-mbstring=shared' '--with-mcrypt=shared' '--with-mysql=shared' '--with-mysql-sock=/tmp/mysql.sock' '--with-mysql=shared' '--with-mysqli=shared' '--with-ncurses=shared' '--with-unixODBC=shared,/usr' '--enable-pdo=shared' '--with-pdo-mysql=shared' '--with-pdo-sqlite=shared' '--with-pdo-odbc=shared,unixODBC,/usr' '--with-pdo-pgsql=shared' '--with-sqlite=shared' '--with-pgsql=shared' '--enable-shmop=shared' '--with-snmp=shared' '--enable-soap=shared' '--enable-sqlite-utf8=shared' '--enable-sysvmsg=shared' '--enable-sysvsem=shared' '--enable-sysvshm=shared' '--with-tidy=shared' '--with-xsl=shared' '--enable-zip=shared' '--enable-posix=shared' '--enable-sockets=shared' '--enable-xml' '--with-ttf=shared' '--enable-session=shared' '--with-regex=php' '--with-pcre-regex=/usr' '--enable-mbstring=all' '--enable-mbregex' '--enable-json=shared' '--with-iconv=shared' '--with-xmlrpc=shared' '--with-pspell=shared' '--with-freetype-dir=shared,/usr' '--with-mime-magic=shared' -- is it a configuration issue on my end or are we missing something during buildtime? thanks -- ( adam stokes ) || ( adam.stokes(a)gmail.com )

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[arch-general] Does anyone has this problem with Monodoc?
by Tomás Acauan Schertel 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Any Ideas? [tomas@myhost ~]$ monodoc using Gecko using Gecko Stacktrace: at (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Notebook.gtk_notebook_set_current_page (intptr,int) <0x00004> at (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Notebook.gtk_notebook_set_current_page (intptr,int) <0xffffffff> at Gtk.Notebook.set_CurrentPage (int) <0x0001d> at Monodoc.Browser.AddTab () <0x000ca> at Monodoc.Browser..ctor (string) <0x00380> at Monodoc.Driver.Main (string[]) <0x00387> at (wrapper runtime-invoke) Monodoc.Driver.runtime_invoke_int_string[] (object,intptr,intptr,intptr) <0xffffffff> Native stacktrace: /usr/bin/mono [0x806ce6f] /usr/bin/mono [0x8085a1b] /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9/libxul.so [0xb536c063] [0xb7f09400] /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9/libxul.so [0xb535c87c] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID+0x84) [0xb685e254] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb684f349] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x1b3) [0xb6850bd3] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb6864686] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x7e4) [0xb6866364] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x26) [0xb68667c6] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_realize+0xb1) [0xb6e89871] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_map+0xf0) [0xb6e8a170] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6cad52d] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_forall+0x96) [0xb6ce3676] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6ce577b] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID+0x84) [0xb685e254] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb684f349] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0xe0) [0xb6850b00] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb6864686] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x7e4) [0xb6866364] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x26) [0xb68667c6] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_map+0x9c) [0xb6e8a11c] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6cad52d] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6dc8385] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_container_forall+0x96) [0xb6ce3676] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6ce577b] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID+0x84) [0xb685e254] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb684f349] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0xe0) [0xb6850b00] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb6864686] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x7e4) [0xb6866364] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x26) [0xb68667c6] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_map+0x9c) [0xb6e8a11c] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6d8d774] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID+0x84) [0xb685e254] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb684f349] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x1b3) [0xb6850bd3] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb6864686] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x7e4) [0xb6866364] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x26) [0xb68667c6] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_map+0x9c) [0xb6e8a11c] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0(gtk_widget_set_child_visible+0xfd) [0xb6e8a2dd] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6d89b62] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6d68a43] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb684f349] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x1b3) [0xb6850bd3] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 [0xb6864ad5] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x7e4) [0xb6866364] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x26) [0xb68667c6] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [0xb6d82d54] [0xb4ce134f] [0xb4ce130e] [0xb5d3cdd3] [0xb6565041] [0xb784a8b8] [0xb784a1bc] /usr/bin/mono(mono_runtime_exec_main+0x16e) [0x813ca6e] /usr/bin/mono(mono_runtime_run_main+0x16b) [0x813d15b] /usr/bin/mono(mono_main+0x16df) [0x805c6bf] /usr/bin/mono [0x805aa62] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7cc45c5] /usr/bin/mono [0x805a9a1] Debug info from gdb: ================================================================= Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries used by your application. ================================================================= Aborted -- Tomás A. Schertel tschertel[at]gmail.com tomas[at]archlinux-br.org ---------------------------------------------- Arch Linux User http://www.archlinux-br.org/ Linux Registered User #304838 ----------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] /arch/setup -> grub '#-*' marker in menu.lst
by Dieter Plaetinck 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Hi, seen in http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=installer.git;a=blob_plain;f=setup;hb=HEAD : # remove default entries by truncating file at our little tag (#-*) sed -i -e '/#-\*/q' Shouldn't it be: sed -i -e '/#-\*/q' $grubmenu instead of just: sed -i -e '/#-\*/q' ? ( $grubmenu == $DESTDIR/boot/grub/menu.lst ) Also, where does the '#-*' tag come from? I can't find any reference to this (no other occurrences in install script). Thanks, Dieter

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[arch-general] Problems with compiling packages
by Baho Utot 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

I have installed Arch Linux on an old machine that has an AMD 800 slot A processor. I am trying to rebuild all of the core packages using makeworld. The CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS are set for an athlon. I have also found that some of the core packages fail to build even with the default make flags. Maybe it is a gcc 4.3.2 issue. What is the best way to report the errors or get help resolving the failures. I have also found that some of the source tarballs are not available at the URL given in the PKGBUILD file. I have found them in other mirrors ie gentoo or debian etc. Should I report these as out of date ?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results
by RedShift 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hi all, > > I think you all are interested in the result of Allan's crazy idea to get some > stats about package usage. I spent some/alot time this weekend to present you > some stats. > > At first: I played a bit with gettext and some usefull pages are available in > German and English (depends on your browser's config): > > * http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences > * http://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus > * http://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics (That's the one; be warnded: > atm it loads > 2MB of pure > HTML!) > > For those who want to play with some sql queries, I have uploaded a (reduced) > db-snapshot: http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre/tmp/pkgdb-stripped.sql.gz > > Before announcing this we should discuss the results and talk about what we > learn about them. > > I'll make a start: (topdown) > > * extra and community have similar size > * more than 1200 submissions since friday. Thanks! :-) > * installation size varies from 126 to amazing 2800 > * 1/4 use x86_64 > * Nearly 70% of packages are from extra. Nice. > * Only 7% are installed from community and a similar amount > is in no official repo (Might be a sign that there is something wrong with > priorities in [community]) > * About 2% from extra and 3% from community aren't used by anybody! > The unused kde-l10n pacakges are no problem; I create them automatically > * Nearly 20% of all users (that includes 3/4 i686) use lib32 packages. > * There are lots of rarly used packages in all repos > * kdemod-kdelibs is installed by 14,26 % while kdelibs fomr [extra] is > installed by 34,05 %. Maybe splitting support in makepkg and devtools should > get a higher priority > > ...that should do it for a start. > Just a warning, generalizing based on these numbers (and on any numbers in fact) is very dangerous. Glenn

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[arch-general] Mailing Lists Netiquette
by Charly Ghislain 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hi, I just thought it might be usefull for some to (re)read this article : Things Worth Knowing About Mailing Lists http://www.ualberta.ca/~pletendr/list-net.html Regards, Charly

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[arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results
by w9ya 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM, w9ya <w9ya(a)qrparci.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com > > > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:51 AM, w9ya <w9ya(a)qrparci.net> wrote: > >> > The TU system was a DIRECT outgrowth of the earlier efforts to find a > >> > place > >> > for users with significant output to be hosted BY the archlinux > systems > >> > >> This is about the hundredth time I've seen the "this is how it used to > >> be" argument. It's stupid. I don't care how the TU system used to be. > >> I don't. I care about how the TU system *is*. So let's talk about the > >> present, and not the past please. > >> > >> I don't care about WHY things were instituted. They've grown and > >> changed. If you're not happy with it, then start a new group that fits > >> your ideals better. > > > > Aaron; this issue does not concern merely myself. Nor is the history > merely > > a personal item. I have *ONLY* spoken about the goals as well as the > > structure that was implemented to achieve these goals in my history > > missives. And OF COURSE that SHOULD BE important as it *IS* the reason > > things are constituted as they are. > > > > As I said in an earlier post, if YOU want to change things, you certainly > > can. No one will stop you. You are the nominal leader. > > > > If you do not like my posting about what reasons are the basis for why > > things are as they are, you can certainly speak out in the manner you > have > > immediately above. But short of "kicking me out" that will not matter > much > > to me as it is not the purpose for our discussion. > > > > One small piece of advice; if you decide to ask people that disagree with > > you to consider leaving, please be sure to make a list of such people; > > prepared before you do ask them to consider leaving. Then, and only > then, > > do your "asking" ALL at once. Someone much wiser than myself told me > that > > to ask people to leave a small number at a time leaves you with enemies > > within your mists that will choose to worry about their own issues > INSTEAD > > of your own. As a leader of men and women you should be aware of that. > > > > Otherwise please be less strident, as it will serve you better. > > I never asked anyone to leave. You're putting quite a lot of words in > my mouth. The point is that as the TU system "used to be", there was > no AUR, no community repo, nothing. It was a collection of remote > repos that were collected in a wiki page. Then we got a unified repo > (incoming, and later community), and then everything else was built on > top of it. Well asking me consider other things elsewhere ala this quoted from above; " I don't care about WHY things were instituted. They've grown and changed. If you're not happy with it, then start a new group that fits your ideals better." AFTER saying that my discussion items were "stupid". It sure seems like you saying that this is a stupid discussion and I should go elsewhere if I am not happy. BESIDES I used the wording "if" that was what you meant. I really only saw angry in your post. (AND I have seen people fired just this way.) Nope. Not a wiki page and NOT a collection in diverse locations as a start. I described this elsewhere earlier today. Please go re-read it. But yes, things were built on top of it. However until this point today, no one has successfully mutated the TU/community system into a statistic driven/based system. My history lesson was designed to point this out. I said as much about the promises that were made about how the voting was meant to be used and what it would NOT be used for. For the record, and as you know becuase you participated a bit the last time, this idea of morphing the voting system into a pre-requisite of sorts was chanllenged within the last two years BECAUSE of the history lessons myself AND OTHERS brought out. I am truly sorry if this annoys you enough to call discussing the history of earlier AUR stuff: "it's stupid", but it really does have bearing.right now. > Simply put: you can keep talking about how the system "used to be" as > much as you want, but understand that that was BEFORE the AUR and > BEFORE we had so many people doing these things. As with any body of > people, the higher the population, the harder it is to keep tabs on > things. With 5 TUs, it's easy to say "do what you want", but when we > get the numbers we have today, rules need to be used. > Nope. It was/am taliking about why things are the way they are NOW as well. TUs are allowed discretion BY DESIGN. > Rather than sitting here saying "We never used to have rules! Oh em > gee!", we can do two things: change the existing rules, or start a new > body of people who are ungoverned. Yes, **you** can change the rules. However you should seek to be sure that you are doing so for good reasons, not just 'a reason'. Be sure to take the time to allow for discussion and NOT call such discussion "stupid", as ignoring someone else's imput will generally lead to unintended consequences. If nothing else ignoring history means you cannot make a fully imformed diecision. Wiser minds than my own have taught me at least that. > > > In suggesting another group that is ungoverned in the way you suggest, > I was not saying "leave this one and start your own". I was saying "do > both and compare" > O.k.... well try to not be so strident with things like "It's stupid" when someone tells you about reasons and goals and results. That may be "history" lesson, but it also may just hold something you have not considered because you did not know of it. Best regards; Bob Finch

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results
by Loui Chang 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 06:51:20PM +0100, Andreas Radke wrote: > the community repo is still a mess. it seems the TUs just put in what > they like not what is requested by the community. there are still > many packages with more than 50 votes waiting in unsupported AUR. Maybe > a monthly pkg move in/out should be installed by the TUs. TUs really shouldn't be adding packages if they don't use them. At the same time they shouldn't be adding packages solely because they use them. That seems to be happening an extraordinary amount. It's somewhat of an abuse of the server's resources.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] msmtp info conflict
by Loui Chang 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:33:32PM -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > Isn't the /usr/share/info/dir file supposed to be removed or > something? I get a file conflict on upgrade. That file needs to be dynamically generated on post-install. I ran into that a few days ago. See: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Keeping_Docs_and_Info_Files

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.27.5-1
by Tobias Powalowski 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version fixes: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11758 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11875 please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] ndiswrapper 1.53-3
by Tobias Powalowski 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Hi fixes: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12023 please signoff for both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] how to install several 2.6.27 kernels in parallel?
by Michael Krauss 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Hello Arch users, the new kernel version causes me some trouble. Since version 2.6.27 architecture independent firmware is installed to /lib/firmware. The install path doesn't depend on the actual name of the kernel: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_27#head-a1eaa0eeec567ae80d95dedf354e3663… Hence it isn't possible to install two different kernel packages in parallel anymore, because both packages include the same content of /lib/firmware, so pacman refuses to install the second package. Up to now I "solve" this problem by simply deleting the firmware in my own kernel package. Don't needing the frimware myself makes this an acceptable solution. But for my savekernel skript in the AUR I need a full featured backup kernel. I have examined the interesting part of the kernel config file: CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y CONFIG_FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL=y CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE="" and looked at the commits to the kernel git: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h… http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h… There doesn't seem to exist a simple switch to install the firmware relative to the kernel name. The only solution I can see so far is to stick every firmware name into the EXTRA_FIRMWARE variable and to set EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR to a directory related to the specific kernel. I tried to be clever and looked into the kernel26-ice package from AUR but it suffers the same problem. Maybe the maintainer never tried to install kernel26-ice and the official kernel26 in parallel. The question is: Are there any options to install the firmware relative to the kernel version in general? Kind regards, Michael Krauss

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[arch-general] pkgstats: contribution was never that easy
by Pierre Schmitz 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Annoying bug you filed not fixed? Waiting on a package to be updated? If only there was some way you could help out and improve everybody's favourite Linux distribution... (in case you are wondering, I mean Arch). Wait! There is! Just install the pkgstats package (pacman -Sy pkgstats), run the /usr/bin/pkgstats script as a user and help the Arch developers prioritize their efforts. Come on, all the cool kids are doing it. You can be like them!

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[arch-general] Arch on VIA EPIA Pico?
by Sergey Manucharian 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Hi folks, Does anybody have an experience installing Arch on VIA EPIA Pico-series boards? Are there known issues? Thanks! Sergey.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [draft] pkgstats: contribution was never that easy
by Loui Chang 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 01:23:52AM +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Hi, > > here is an announcement draft based on Allan's proposal: > > > Annoying bug you filed not fixed? Waiting on a package to be updated? > If only there was some way you could help out and improve everybody's > favourite Linux distribution... (in case you were wondering, I was > meaning Arch). > > Wait! There is! Just install the pkgstats package, run it as a user and help > the Arch dev's prioritize their efforts. Come on, all the cool kids are doing > it. Wow déja vu. I remember there was something like this called archstats that just silently disappeared into the digital abyss. I'm glad to see it back!

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[arch-general] Support for Sierra Wireless AirCard 881
by Amanai 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Need some help Support Sierra Wireless AirCard 881? The Sierra Wireless AirCard 881 provides enhanced mobile broadband performance to keep you connected with access to email, the Internet, and business applications while on the go. The Sierra Wireless AirCard 881 provides the latest technology based upon the global standard for wireless - GSM. Best yet, the Sierra Wireless AirCard 881 works seamlessly across AT&T's 3G BroadbandConnect and EDGE networks providing you the perfect combination of performance and coverage. The AirCard 881 is simple to set-up and use so that you can stay connected whether traveling across town, the U.S., or the world. The application and howto can be found here http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=607 What do I have to Install for Archlinux, to get my card run? Is there any application supported by Archlinux for easy Install via "pacman -S x..." ? Is it possible that a Archlinux developer can maintaining this application? I can't find any Infos at archlinux.org , no Wiki, no Hardware Info.

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[arch-general] is arch vulnerable to the ndiswrapper exploit?
by Jonathan 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

I came across this in the news today, it seems to be a pretty big security hole in ndiswrapper. "Multiple buffer overflows in the ndiswrapper module 1.53 for the Linux kernel 2.6 allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary code by sending packets over a local wireless network that specify long ESSIDs." http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-4395 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/275860 Jonathan

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[arch-general] Fosdem 2009
by Dieter Plaetinck 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Fosdem is a pretty big FOSS-related conference in Brussels, Belgium (Europe). ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSDEM, http://fosdem.org) They basically do/allow 4 things: - devrooms: foss projects can have rooms to meet/discuss/hack/demonstrate/plan IRL with other devs. Members of the community can go in too, although even in the biggest rooms you can get maximum 40 people or so IIRC. (the Gentoo devrooms used to be full 8-) - lightning talks: 15 minutes for someone involved in a (new) project to present it to the community - "real" talks: IIRC about 1hour. usually for bigger known projects like xorg etc. - stands: there is also the fair part, where projects can have stands to show off their project, sell merchandise,.. If any of these sounds interesting for Arch, you can still apply. See: http://fosdem.org/2009/call_for_devrooms_and_stands http://fosdem.org/2009/call_for_lightningtalks http://fosdem.org/2009/node/153 Dieter

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[arch-general] Wiki/AUR Mirrors
by Stythys 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Due to our recent downtime, I wanted to open a discussion about the possibility of mirroring the wiki/aur. I'm sure the are many people among the community (including myself) who'd be willing to put forth some hosting.

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[arch-general] FS#10058 - mysqld rc script creates insecure dummy log
by Loui Chang 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

I fixed this for myself and posted this report long ago but it kind of bugs me that this is still in the wild so I want to bring this to the attention of the mailing list readers. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10058 The mysqld startup script touches the default mysqld.log location but doesn't do anything to secure it from reading by non privileged users. Databases can have sensitive information so should not be globally readable. mysqld_safe seems to take care of log creation and security itself when a log file is specified in my.cnf and it has write permission to the directory containing the logs. (personally I just create /var/log/mysql/ and gave it user:group of mysql:mysql) Furthermore the startup script assumes too much (location of log file), which may be incorrect depending on my.cnf Let the admin take care of things him/herself. Patch attached. It would be handy though for a novice user to be able to enable secure logging (with logrotate) by just uncommenting a config option in my.cnf Get rid of /var/log/mysqld.log creation diff --git a/rc.d/mysqld b/rc.d/mysqld index 0fcecf7..843397e 100755 --- a/rc.d/mysqld +++ b/rc.d/mysqld @@ -27,11 +27,6 @@ if [ ! -d $MYSQLD_ROOT ]; then chown -R mysql.mysql $MYSQLD_ROOT fi -if [ ! -e /var/log/mysqld.log ]; then - touch /var/log/mysqld.log - chown mysql /var/log/mysqld.log -fi - case "$1" in start) stat_busy "Starting MySQL"

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[arch-general] uswsup in aur
by Johannes Held 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hello I want to suspend my computer (no laptop) to ram or even to disk. For the ease of use I first want to try suspend to ram and looked into our wiki [1] which recommended uswsusp from aur. But I have the same problem like "dninja" in the coments. libgcrypt-1.4.3-2 is installed but the build breaks with this error: gcc -DS2RAM -D_GNU_SOURCE -march=core2 -mtune=native -O2 -m64 -pipe -mmmx -msse -msse2 -static -o resume resume-resume.o libsuspend-common.a -llzo2 -lgcrypt -lgpg-error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcrypt If I compile some dummy c-file with -lgcrypt everything's ok. What's the problem in here? And another question: If you suspend your normal computer - which method do you use? [1]: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Suspend_to_RAM -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version

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[arch-general] problem with guidance power manager
by Shridhar Daithankar 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hello , I don't know where to put this but since it has cause a concerning problem, I am putting up a mailing list post for archives. Desparately in search for KDE4 laptop suspend, today I landed with guidance- package-manager. It pulled python-2.6 along with dbus-python, sip and pyqt (which is ok). Problem began when every other program including guidance-power-manager itself and mercurial(my bread-and-butter for development) started crying about missing libpython2.5.so.1.0. I had to chuck out dbus-python, sip,pyqt and guidance-power-manager and "upgrade" to python 2.5 from /var/cache/pacman/pkg to get sanity back. I think python 2.6 package has problem but am not sure. Any comments? -- Shridhar

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[arch-general] nxserver issue
by Sergey Manucharian 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hi folks, After the yesterday server's system update I cannot connect to that server anymore using nxclient. After the dialog box shows: Establish the display connection a window with !m logo appears for a second and disappears without any message. I looked into files at the server side: /var/log/nxserver.log - is empty, /opt/NX/var/db/closed/sessionIDxxxx - the status is "Finished" and no sessions in /opt/NX/var/db/failed Of course I checked that I can easily connect to another (not updated) yet server. By the way, I use non-standard port 2730 instead of 22. Thanks for ideas. Sergey

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