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[arch-general] unable to associate wlan0 during network start
by Adam Stokes 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

/etc/rc.d/network start fails with Could not associate wlan0 - try increasing WIRELESS_TIMEOUT and check network is WEP or has no security. However, running dhcpcd wlan0 when system is up works. I dont use wep but have wireless mac filters setup on the router and I've increased the WIRELESS_TIMEOUT in /etc/conf.d/wireless. Has anyone run into this recently? specs: 2.6.29-ARCH, x86_64 using iwl3495 driver, intel pro/wireless 3945abg Thanks -- ( adam stokes ) || ( adam.stokes(a)gmail.com )

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[arch-general] synaptics edge scrolling
by Sergey Manucharian 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

Hi, With the current xorg-server 1.6.1-1 the vertical scrolling using the edge of touchpad is almost unusable since it's too fast now. It's not possible to adjust it with both gsynaptics and 'Option "HorizScrollDelta"' in the xorg.conf... Thanks for ideas. My computer is ThinkPad R61. Cheers, Sergey

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[arch-general] i686 extra repo - busted?
by pyther 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

I'm guessing something is wrong with the extra repo on i686! Did Allan break it? I tried three different mirrors including ftp.archlinux.org R2D2:~ $ sudo pacman -Sl extra extra 3ddesktop 0.2.9-3 extra a2ps 4.14-1 extra a52dec 0.7.4-4 extra aalib 1.4rc5-6 extra abcde 2.3.99.7-1 extra abiword 2.6.8-1 extra abiword-plugins 2.6.8-1 extra abook 0.6.0pre2-1 extra abs 2.3.2-2 extra abuse 0.7.1-1 extra acct 6.3.2-2 extra acidrip 0.14-6 extra acpi 1.4-2 extra acpid 1.0.8-1 extra afterstep 2.2.8-2 extra agg 2.5-2 extra aif 2009.04.08-1 extra aiksaurus 1.2.1-1 extra akode 2.0.2-1 extra akonadi 1.1.1-1 extra alacarte 0.11.10-1 extra allegro 4.2.2-1 extra alltray 0.70-1 extra alpine 2.00-3 extra alsa-lib 1.0.19-1 extra alsa-oss 1.0.17-1 extra alsa-utils 1.0.19-1 extra alsaplayer 0.99.80-2 extra amarok-base 1.4.10-3 This is the whole listing! ~pyther

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[arch-general] Understanding permissions
by Maurício 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

Hi, I'm using lighttpd as http server, and it complains about permissions when I ask for a file on my public_html directory. Using strace on lighty I get: stat("/home/mauricio/public_html", 0x7fffceb2dcb0) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) However, using ls: ls -ld public_html public_html/index.html drwxr-xr-x 3 mauricio users 4096 2009-04-13 19:41 public_html -rw-r--r-- 1 mauricio users 4075 2009-04-13 19:41 public_html/index.html Since 'r' is there in all users field, should not every user, including 'http' used by lighty, be able to read? Thanks for your help, Maurício

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[arch-general] network WTF
by David Rosenstrauch 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

Got a bit of network weirdness going on here. 2 different Arch laptops, an old one and a new one, with completely different hardware (and also i686 vs. x86_64), but both are completely up to date with the latest repos. On the old (i686) one, "iwlist scan" works fine from the command line, as a non-root user. On the new one, no dice - I need to be root to get back results. What makes this even more annoying is that apparently some of the wireless tools I'm using suffer from this restriction as well. So on the old laptop, kwifimanager and knemo show accurate info about the current connection (bit rate, link quality, etc.) while on the new laptop these come up empty. Anyone have any idea what's causing this and/or how to work around it? Surely I don't need to run kwifimanager and knemo as root to do it. I'm guessing there's some obscure setting that's different between the 2 machines that's controlling this, but I have no clue what it could be. TIA, DR

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[arch-general] Small laptops running archy?
by Maurício 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

Hi, Do you had any experience using darcs on these small Eee-like notebooks? Is there someone I should avoid? Do you think those which come with Linux instaled are always sure to run any Linux distro? Thanks, Maurício

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[arch-general] Surviving without X
by Maurício 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Hi, Do you think it's possible to live without X, replacing framebuffer for it, using packages available for arch? I imagine something like DirectFB or similar, using it when text is not enough. I think I could do with a browser and a pdf viewer, but I wasn't able to find a direction to follow to get that. Has any of you tried it already? Thanks, Maurício

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[arch-general] [Flyspray] List of task wating for closure
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

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[arch-general] knetworkmanager
by David Rosenstrauch 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Anyone been able to build knetworkmanager since the upgrade of networkmanager to v0.7? It doesn't seem to build for me anymore: ... In file included from knetworkmanager-devicestore.h:34, from knetworkmanager.h:35, from main.cpp:25, from libkdeinit_knetworkmanager_la.all_cpp.cpp:2: knetworkmanager-devicestore_dbus.h:29:41: error: NetworkManager/dbus-helpers.h: No such file or directory ... TIA, DR

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[arch-general] Problems rebuilding kernel with alsa 1.0.19
by David Rosenstrauch 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

My sound module's (snd-hda-intel) been broken in ALSA for a while now. Was working around the problem by keeping myself on kernel 2.6.27, but finally gave that up this week (for various reasons) and now I'm without sound again. Tried using OSS instead, but that didn't work either (no headphone support for my codec), so I'm now trying to rebuild the kernel with ALSA 1.0.19 support, since that version of ALSA is supposed to fix the problem. (The current kernel apparently uses version 1.0.18a.) Not having much luck though. I followed instructions on the ALSA wiki build page on how to copy the ALSA source onto the kernel source before building, but the build is failing when it hits the sound modules: ... CC [M] sound/core/sound_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/info_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/vmaster.o CC [M] sound/core/jack.o sound/core/jack.c:31: error: ‘SW_VIDEOOUT_INSERT’ undeclared here (not in a function) make[2]: *** [sound/core/jack.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [sound/core] Error 2 make: *** [sound] Error 2 ==> ERROR: Build Failed. Aborting... Anyone have any idea what the problem might be and/or how to work around the problem? TIA, DR

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[arch-general] latest xorg- significant slowdown
by Jonathan Brown 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Hi all Upon updating to the latest xorg/nvidia (Xfce), and rebooting, X seems to take about 4 times as long to start, and programs seem to take about 2-3 times as long to start up. Anyone else having similar issues? Not really sure how to run any metrics on this, but X is now significantly slower, including noticeable delays in switching between apps/windows.. I can even tell that weechat in urxvt is slower. -Jon

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[arch-general] xf86-video-intel very slow
by Jaime Oyarzun Knittel 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Hi! I have been experiencing slowdowns with the (new) xf86-video-intel driver (everything else updated). I had to move to xf86-video-intel-legacy driver because with this one I can play 1080p movies and enable desktop effects in KDE and play flash games and videos... which I couldn't with the newest driver. So xf86-video-intel is still buggy, I own a Thinkpad x61 with an Intel x3100 video card. How can I help in seeing what is the problem (logfiles, recompile with debug options, etc.)? Thank you very much! -- Jaime Oyarzun Knittel http://www.archlinux.cl/

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)
by Loui Chang 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:39:23PM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > > Am Montag, 30. März 2009 12:17:07 schrieb Thomas Bächler: > >> I say we drop it, as it does not meet Arch's packaging standards. > > > > Yes, if we cannot package it the way we want, lets drop it. > > Can we confirm that things look "nice" without these fonts? I remember > fonts being terribly ugly way back when without this package. Actually I would recommend that ttf-ms-fonts be made a depends, or at least an optdepends of wine. The text in some windows programs is unreadable without it.

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[arch-general] Wifi not working after kernel upgrade to 2.6.29
by Ondřej Kučera 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

Hi, I've just upgraded kernel to 2.6.29.1-3 and since then I can't connect to my wireless network. netcfg times out and says "Wireless association failed". The driver is iwl3945, here is the profile's content: CONNECTION="wireless" INTERFACE=wlan0 SCAN="no" SECURITY="wpa" ESSID="foo" KEY="foobar" IP="dhcp" TIMEOUT=20 QUIRKS=(preessid wpaessid) If I correctly understand how it all works, wpa_supplicant is run and then "wpa_cli status" is saying "wpa_state=SCANNING" for the whole 20 seconds until netcfg gives up. Does anybody have similar problems or knows a solution? Perhaps also relevant lines from /var/log/everything.log: Apr 10 00:00:33 hermione kernel: iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 Apr 10 00:00:33 hermione kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:radio Apr 10 00:00:33 hermione kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:assoc Apr 10 00:00:33 hermione kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:RX Apr 10 00:00:33 hermione kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:TX Apr 10 00:00:33 hermione kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready Apr 10 00:00:55 hermione kernel: iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] Nautilus upgrade runs CPU at 100%
by Will Siddall 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

Hey everyone, I already sent a message about this earlier but no one replied. So, I'm giving this another try. My last message, I didn't know what exactly was going on, but I knew it happened since the last Gnome upgrade to 2.26. After searching around, it starts at the gnome-session call when it tries to load Nautilus. So, I downgraded nautilus back 2.24.2 and everything goes back to normal. Now that I've narrowed it down to Nautilus, can someone tell me what's going on so I know what to look forward to at the next nautilus upgrade, or what I should check so I can get nautilus back to 2.26. Thanks, Will

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[arch-general] mysql won't start after upgrade
by Scott Weisman 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

I just upgraded MySQL on my Arch box to the latest version (5.1.33-1), and all of a sudden, MySQL won't start. I get the following in my mysql.err file (in /var/lib/mysql): 090412 07:53:21 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql /usr/sbin/mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist 090412 7:53:21 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. InnoDB: Error: log file /var/lib/mysql/ib_logfile0 is of different size 0 5242880 bytes InnoDB: than specified in the .cnf file 0 16777216 bytes! 090412 7:53:21 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' init function returned error. 090412 7:53:21 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' registration as a STORAGE ENGINE failed. 090412 7:53:21 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown variable 'innodb_log_arch_dir=/var/lib/mysql' 090412 7:53:21 [ERROR] Aborting 090412 7:53:21 [Warning] Forcing shutdown of 2 plugins 090412 7:53:21 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete 090412 07:53:21 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/lib/mysql/humidor.pid ended I run mysql_upgrade, as instructed, but it also doesn't work. It expects a working daemon of MySQL, which as the above log output attests, isn't available. Can someone help?! Until this upgrade, MySQL has run flawlessly for years. Thanks, Scott

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[arch-general] namcap wiki page
by Abhishek Dasgupta 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

I made a wiki page on namcap: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Namcap Could someone go through the page and point out any errors or omissions, especially in the "Making a namcap module" section? It'd be nice if this page and the Arch Packaging Standards were listed on the main page of the wiki. That would help a lot of users in finding out about namcap which doesn't seem to be used as much as it should be. -- Abhishek

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[arch-general] no sound on thinkpad t61
by Adam Stokes 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

[root@shinzo ~]# head -n 1 /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 Codec: Analog Devices AD1984 kernel-doc/ALSA-configuration.txt AD1984 basic default configuration thinkpad Lenovo Thinkpad T61/X61 dell Dell T3400 [root@shinzo ~]# cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad [root@shinzo ~]# lsmod |grep '^snd' snd_seq_oss 35584 0 snd_seq_midi_event 9344 1 snd_seq_oss snd_hda_intel 531252 4 snd_seq 58336 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 9364 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_hwdep 10632 1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss 45440 0 snd_pcm 82952 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 24720 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11792 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_mixer_oss 18944 1 snd_pcm_oss snd 65224 15 snd_seq_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss [root@shinzo ~]# ls -l /dev/snd total 0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 8 2009-04-10 17:14 controlC0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 7 2009-04-10 17:14 hwC0D0 crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 6 2009-04-10 17:14 pcmC0D0c crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 5 2009-04-10 19:01 pcmC0D0p crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 4 2009-04-10 17:14 pcmC0D1p crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 3 2009-04-10 17:14 seq crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 2 2009-04-10 17:14 timer everything is unmuted in alsamixer. what else am i missing? thanks -- ( adam stokes ) || ( adam.stokes(a)gmail.com )

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[arch-general] Bug reports for out of date packages?
by Ondřej Kučera 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi, Arch's packages usually (almost always) get updated pretty fast and the system "don't create a bug report, just flag the package out of date to get dev's/TU's attention" works fine. But sometimes there exist packages both in community and in extra (I'm not sure about core but maybe even there) that don't get updated even after a significant time from the upstream's release (e. g. swt, amarok, jre or jdk from the nearest past). Shouldn't there be a time limit (two weeks? a month?) after which it would be OK to create a bug report? That way there could be a discussion about why that package hasn't/couldn't be updated and everyone would know where to look for the reasons without having to go through mailing list archives, bbs and so on. Just a thought though. Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] Problem with Realtek Ethernet and 2.6.29 Kernel
by Lukas Grässlin 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi there, after the update to 2.6.29 the Network Controller of my secondary computer won't work. The problem is that I just have no connection, I can't ping anything. The network interface is listed normaly and has an IP, but it won't work. It's an "Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01)" I reinstalled 2.6.28 and it works. More information: on my Main pc I have the same Network controler _BUT_ rev 02 and it works with 2.6.29. Regards, Lukas (sorry if the mail reveices twice but I think my mailer did something wrong ;) )

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[arch-general] old shfs and new kernel
by Brock.Zheng 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

I found the package shfs in community is very old. it is for kernel 2.6.22. Anyone can give me the reason of it existence? Dose the uptodate kernel include this module? goodmen

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[arch-general] pacman dependency error
by Abhishek Dasgupta 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

While doing pacman -Suy today: resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: intel-dri: requires libdrm>=2.4.5-3 :: libgl: requires libdrm>=2.4.5-3 :: mesa: requires libdrm>=2.4.5-3 Now, I'd used the [testing] repo to update xorg to 1.6 and then disabled it. However pacman -Qi shows libdrm to be at 2.4.6-1 so I don't see why pacman refuses to upgrade. -- Abhishek

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[arch-general] What about unused direct libraries in ELF files?
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi Like my previus message about RPATH in ELF files, I am interested in know opinions of arch-dev-team about ELF files that have direct unused libraries. (I will open a ticket if considered this important in Arch Linux, and gradually helping to fix it for each package that are necessary, like for rpath [#1], also a check for namcap can be implemented like for rpath [#2]) This problem, is in most cases about this issue is the way that libtool or pkg-config is used in the build systems. For example, "pacman" package the pacman binary really only depends on libc.so.6 and libalpm.so.3 all other libs (libdownload.so libarchive.so.2 libacl.so.1 libattr.so.1 libbz2.so.1.0 libz.so.1) are depends of libalpm.so.3 only. Other example are "convert" from imagemagick: It has many unused direct libraries: $ ldd -u -r /usr/bin/convert Unused direct dependencies: /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 /usr/lib/libjasper.so.1 /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 /usr/lib/libgs.so.8 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 /usr/lib/libwmflite-0.2.so.7 /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 /lib/libbz2.so.1.0 /usr/lib/libIlmImf.so.6 /usr/lib/libImath.so.6 /usr/lib/libHalf.so.6 /usr/lib/libIex.so.6 /usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6 /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2 /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 /usr/lib/libz.so.1 /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1 /lib/libpthread.so.0 /usr/lib/libltdl.so.7 /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 This not only affect executables, also libraries. So very complicated dependency "graphs" are here. Derived from this, another issue appears: undefined symbols, because in shared libs this behavior are permited (ldd -u -r /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3.0.0, but this is a documented [a program that uses it also needs a -lgdbm] ) For example now the KDE packages (from Pierre) [#3] when solved all RPATH also solved this issue, with linking flags "--as-needed" and "--no-undefined" Good Luck! [#1] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13890 - Packaging creation and rpath issues [#2] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14049 - [namcap] should check about insecure RPATH in ELF files [#3] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13965 - [kde] Compile KDE with CMAKE_SKIP_RPATH -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] Keyboard repeat in KDE
by Keith 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Leonid wrote: >> Hi, I know I sent this before, but this is a new version of KDE and the problem is becoming really bad. Every once in a while, keyboard repeat will suddenly be unset. I can fix it in systemsettings, only to have it get unset again randomly. Sometimes it will only take a few minutes, sometimes hours. It is very very annoying. Is there anything I can do to fix it? I am running 4.2.2 (not kdemod, vanilla). << +1. It appeared to hit me immediately after either the upgrade to KDE 4.2.2 (or, more likely, I think, the upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-5 at 1 AM 4/6). I appear to be having the same problem, and after the same upgrade - to KDE 4.2.2 (not KDEMOD) and xorg-server in extra. Also, my mouse "third-button-wheel" will stop scrolling in a web page, for no reason. It happens so often I'm avoiding using the function - and this effect also seems to be tied to the same time frame. Note also that, in the course of modifying parts of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get to a usable desktop after this upgrade, I had to (a) remove all my "InputDevice" Sections for a keyboard and two mice (which implicitly sets several possible-gremlin options), and then (b) make a NUMBER of mods, trying to get xorg running stably with a "clean" an Xorg.log.0 as possible. I'm currently trying to figure out how to turn the clues it throws me into a usable conf, but with documentation so blatantly at odds with reality, in at least a couple of interesting places, that's hard. Try 'Option "Accel"' in the Screen Section ('man Xorg', or 'man xorg.conf'). The Xorg (or xorg.conf) man page documents it beautifully; hopefully some day it'll actually OPERATE as documented. This weekend I intend to exercise every known method of automagically generating an xorg.conf for an AMD64-based Arch Linux system, and see if I can either find what I'm missing (in one of them), or manage to get some combination of the suggestions (of all of them) to work. I realise both documentation and KNOWLEDGE are in short supply with the imminent release of xorg-server 1.6, and that it's not supposedly going to be an "easy" or "simple" "migration." I see this as mental prep work... Blue Skies...g

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[arch-general] xf86-video-intel-legacy vs xf86-video-intel
by Damjan Georgievski 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Is it possible to make these packages not conflict each other? So that one could have both installed and alternate when needed? -- damjan

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