- Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

Status of package superslicer
by Björn Försterling 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

Hi, was the package "superslicer" removed from pacman? $ sudo pacman -Ss superslicer $ echo $? 1 Also I cannot find the package "slic3r" as well. The only slicer that pacman supports now seems to be the "prusa- slicer". Does anyone know why these packages where removed? Regards Björn

1 0

Nextcloud - Archlinux packaged apps verse Nextcloud store - What is the difference?
by David C. Rankin 23 Oct '24

23 Oct '24

Devs, I've used nextcloud in Arch for a couple of years. When I installed, it was just the Nextcloud webapp that was available and the applications were packaged by nextcloud with additional apps available in the nextcloud store. Now there are "nextcloud-app-xxxx" packages provided by Archlinux, e.g. nextcloud-app-bookmarks nextcloud-app-calendar nextcloud-app-contacts nextcloud-app-main nextcloud-app-news nextcloud-app-notes nextcloud-app-spreed Did something change that now means I should be installing the nextcloud-app-xxxx packages instead of the apps that are already in Nextcloud? The wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Nextcloud is silent on the packaged apps. Are they different from what is available in the nextcloud store? Better? Just trying to figure out why they are packaged and if I should switch to them. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

2 3

About AUR accreditation policy
by Óscar García Amor 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

Hello foks, I tell you, about 8 hours ago a package that Radu C. Martin and I were maintaining (textpieces) was moved from the AUR to extra. In this movement (which seems perfect to us, every package officially maintained is welcome and better than this in the AUR) our names have disappeared[1]. I don't want you to misunderstand me, I'm not crying foul about this, but it doesn't seem fair to me that the person (or persons) who kept the package for a while until it became official is not credited. If we in the AUR keep the names of those who preceded us in the maintenance of the package, I understand that when a package moves from the AUR to an official repository the same should happen. This happens when a package is dropped to AUR. I don't know if there is a directive for this, but if not, maybe it's time to write one. And as I said, I don't mind that my name doesn't appear as a contributor right now (I keep my AUR packages for myself and for people to benefit from it, not for fame or similar nonsense), but I do find it a bit ugly that the effort involved in doing that work is not recognized, and not by me, but by everyone. Greetings. PS: I would not want accusations or ugly things to come out of this. I just want to note that there should be a policy that the AUR maintainer's work should be credited when a package is moved to an official repository. [1]: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/textpieces/-/blob… -- Óscar García Amor | ogarcia at moire.org | http://ogarcia.me

13 18

Arch Linux stuck on legacy iptables by default
by Martin Rys 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Arch Linux still uses the legacy iptables backend, as opposed to the nft backend that every other distribution uses. This has been reported since 2021 with no response: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/iptables/-/issues… To me it looks like a direct, simple migration, and it just needs someone with the needed perms to look at it, but I could be wrong. It's assigned to the notoriously overburdened Felix, is there anything a non-core member can do, other than wait? It's not a *large* issue, it's just mildly annoying to have workarounds in my deploys, as it is installed on any system due to iproute2 needing an iptables backend, and some things just outright don't work with that, requiring the nft one. Thanks, Martin

6 9

Network Issues After Pacman Upgrade
by Björn Försterling 14 Oct '24

14 Oct '24

Hello, I just ran a "pacman -Syu" and am having issues with the internet connection. I have around 10 seconds with a working connection to the internet followed by 10 seconds without being able to establish a connection. For 10 seconds I am able to curl google.com or telnet its port 443, and then I get blocked for 10 seconds. There was an update to "networkmanager": [2024-10-13T15:39:41+0200] [ALPM] upgraded networkmanager (1.48.10-1 -> 1.50.0-1) Could this be the cause? Does anyone else experience similar problems? I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Regards Björn

5 5

Strange config /etc/profile.d/utf8.sh added on recent upgrade
by Tadeas Uhlir 13 Oct '24

13 Oct '24

Hey all, Today, I noticed that my alias for "ls" is not working as usual. I alias "ll" to "LC_COLLATE=C ls -alF" to have a long listing with hidden dirs at the top. However, I noticed that the sorting doesn't work all of a sudden. After some digging around I found out that this is due to "LC_ALL" being set to "en_US.utf8". This variable is being set from a file at "/etc/profile.d/utf8.sh". Two notes about this: 1. For the life of me I cannot figure out which package upgrade/install created this file. Just going by a pacman log the file creation time corresponds to when "pacman --noconfirm -S autoconf libtool m4 automake" ran. But those packages don't seem to have much to do with locale. And googling the path of this file doesn't seem to yield much, clearly it's not a very common config file across linux distros. 2. Once I find the culprit, I would love to know what is the rationale behind explicitly setting "LC_ALL". Even the archwiki mentions that this should only be done during tests: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Locale#LC_ALL:_troubleshooting . And, indeed, seems like a bad idea given that it overrides all LC_ vars. -- Best Regards, Tadeáš Uhlíř

2 2

Periodic aged package report
by Genes Lists 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

Periodic check of Arch out of date packages. This considered are purely my opinion of those that are sufficiently 'relevant'. Apologies to any others. The really good news is that there really aren't many ! Big congrats for the hard work keeping Arch awesome and up to date. Note that, some are excluded when they are work in progress and/or involve a significant amount of work (provided they are not "too" old, which none are). Arch is doing an amazing job keeping our core/key packages like compiler tools, python, systemd, kernel and other vital packages very up to date. What remains are a few that are relevant enough (imho) to make the list. I am using 3 metrics of age: - Num-B The number of releases we are behind Some packages have frequent updates some do not. - Age The number of days between the arch version and the latest - New: How recent was the latest released (days ago from today) Package Arch Curr Date num-b Age New ------------------ ---------- ------ -------- ------ ------ ---- apparmor 3.1.7-5 4.0.3 08/15/24 4 195 55 biber 1:2.19-4 2.20 03/21/24 1 321 202 dkms 3.0.12-1 3.1.0 10/01/24 2 373 8 python-cryptography 42.0.8-1 43.0.1 09/03/24 2 91 36 python-setuptools 1:69.5.1-1 75.1.0 09/13/24 22 153 26 yubioath-desktop 5.1.0-3 7.1.0 09/25/24 12 1234 14 (1) (1) Now called yubico-authenticator -- Gene

5 7

Valgrind problem
by Frank 07 Oct '24

07 Oct '24

Good evening, I'm trying to debug an issue with Evolution and the Gnome guys asked me to use valgrind. However, when running this command I get an error I'm stuck with: valgrind --num-callers=30 --leak-check=no --track-origins=yes /usr/lib/evolution-calendar-factory -w ==4915== Memcheck, a memory error detector ==4915== Copyright (C) 2002-2024, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al. ==4915== Using Valgrind-3.23.0 and LibVEX; rerun with -h for copyright info ==4915== Command: /usr/lib/evolution-calendar-factory -w ==4915== valgrind: Fatal error at startup: a function redirection valgrind: which is mandatory for this platform-tool combination valgrind: cannot be set up. Details of the redirection are: valgrind: valgrind: A must-be-redirected function valgrind: whose name matches the pattern: strcmp valgrind: in an object with soname matching: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 valgrind: was not found whilst processing valgrind: symbols from the object with soname: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 valgrind: valgrind: Possible fixes: (1, short term): install glibc's debuginfo valgrind: package on this machine. (2, longer term): ask the packagers valgrind: for your Linux distribution to please in future ship a non- valgrind: stripped ld.so (or whatever the dynamic linker .so is called) valgrind: that exports the above-named function using the standard valgrind: calling conventions for this platform. The package you need valgrind: to install for fix (1) is called valgrind: valgrind: On Debian, Ubuntu: libc6-dbg valgrind: On SuSE, openSuSE, Fedora, RHEL: glibc-debuginfo valgrind: valgrind: Note that if you are debugging a 32 bit process on a valgrind: 64 bit system, you will need a corresponding 32 bit debuginfo valgrind: package (e.g. libc6-dbg:i386). valgrind: valgrind: Cannot continue -- exiting now. Sorry. THX Frank

3 4

Delayed responsiveness on resume after upgrade
by SET 07 Oct '24

07 Oct '24

Hello, I just upgraded a host and noticed a waiting of about 90s before the desktop (KDE) becomes responsive (typing to unlock the screen, the mouse cursor can be moved). This was not the case before the upgrade. This box has 3 remote shares attached via sshfs. The delay to responsiveness is near immediate if it is suspended while the remote shares are not connected. With remote shares connected on suspend: [Sat Oct 5 12:05:03 2024] OOM killer enabled. [Sat Oct 5 12:05:03 2024] Restarting tasks ... done. [Sat Oct 5 12:05:03 2024] random: crng reseeded on system resumption [Sat Oct 5 12:05:03 2024] PM: suspend exit [Sat Oct 5 12:05:03 2024] r8169 0000:06:00.0 eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/ Full - flow control off [Sat Oct 5 12:06:35 2024] r8169 0000:06:00.0 eth0: Link is Down [Sat Oct 5 12:06:35 2024] Generic FE-GE Realtek PHY r8169-0-600:00: attached PHY driver (mii_bus:phy_addr=r8169-0-600:00, irq=MAC) [Sat Oct 5 12:06:35 2024] r8169 0000:06:00.0 eth0: Link is Down [Sat Oct 5 12:06:39 2024] r8169 0000:06:00.0 eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/ Full - flow control off With remote shares disconnected on suspend: [Sat Oct 5 12:10:55 2024] OOM killer enabled. [Sat Oct 5 12:10:55 2024] Restarting tasks ... done. [Sat Oct 5 12:10:55 2024] random: crng reseeded on system resumption [Sat Oct 5 12:10:55 2024] PM: suspend exit [Sat Oct 5 12:10:55 2024] Generic FE-GE Realtek PHY r8169-0-600:00: attached PHY driver (mii_bus:phy_addr=r8169-0-600:00, irq=MAC) [Sat Oct 5 12:10:56 2024] r8169 0000:06:00.0 eth0: Link is Down [Sat Oct 5 12:10:58 2024] r8169 0000:06:00.0 eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/ Full - flow control off It seems that the network link remains 'up' when the remote shares are connected, then has to go down and that's where the delay lies. Afterwards, it quickly returns to the up state. 'modinfo r8169' does not expose any option at all. I wish to know if there's a simple known solution to quickly resume the host. The root cause could also lie deep in the kernel and may perhaps disappear on a future upgrade. I can live with it, it's just annoying. Thanks for any input.

2 2

Re: Future of salt in our repositories
by Genes Lists 05 Oct '24

05 Oct '24

On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 17:36 +0200, Morten Linderud wrote: > Yo, > > `salt` is a framework for server provisioning, change management and > ... > `salt` as of version `3007` does not support Python 3.12, and the > release `3008` > seems far away, ... > salt is going for the vendor > approach they call `onedir` and instead bundle *everyting*, including > their own > Python runtime, into a directory. This is going to be a mess to > properly support > ... ... > As long as there are not any major issues I intend to drop this > package ahead of > our Python 3.13 release and prep work. Replying via general. This does indeed make a lot of sense. 'onedir' sounds pretty horrible. It might worthwhile noting that salt was acquired by VMware which in turn was acquired by broadcom a couple years ago. I have no views if this is significant for its future trajectory or not. I wonder if some people might be considering migrating to Ansible or another alternative? thanks for staying on top of things and keeping us informed. gene -- Gene

1 0