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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] adding rng-tools to extra?
by Bartłomiej Piotrowski 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

On 06/03/2012 08:48 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hi guys, > with enabling pacman signing, shouldn't we add the rng-tools to extra to > be able to use it on install media too? Or is there any way to generate > entropy without it and without user interaction? > > thanks > greetings > tpowa > Some time ago I added haveged to [community]. IMO it's easier to use; the only thing to do is to start haveged daemon. -- Bartłomiej Piotrowski Arch Linux Trusted User http://archlinux.org/

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[arch-general] upgrade disabled IP forwarding
by Fons Adriaensen 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

A pacman -Syu today unexpectedly disabled IP forwarding on two of my machines which were configured to provide that service. Unexpected because AFAIK there's no recent news item mentioning this, nor were there any upgrade messages about it. No big deal, and probably just some unwanted side effect, but it could be a good idea to announce this somewhere. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] archlinux install failed
by Jude DaShiell 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

I was using the material on the archlinux wiki page in arch-linux for the blind and ran into an error. Instruction 5 started the problem in which alsa-utils and espeakup and speakup get copied to the machine. I was told no updates were done and that no servers were configured for pacman when I tried to do that instruction. The thing is, that instruction is in my braille notes from quite a while ago exactly as it appears in the wiki and at the time I installed archlinux using those notes no such problem happened. Has something changed with the remote repos I should know about or is something else going on? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>

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[arch-general] Anyone running hylafx with systemd - modem init/respawn OK?
by David C. Rankin 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

Guys, Before I cause myself headaches -- is there anyone that has updated to systemd running a hylafax server with traditional serial modems? I see that systemd has the faxq.service and hafaxd.service: usr/lib/systemd/system/faxq.service usr/lib/systemd/system/hfaxd.service But what about the init and respawn of faxgetty that was usually done through inittab? mo:35:respawn:/usr/lib/fax/faxgetty /dev/ttyS1 This may not even be an issue on Arch, but there have been issues with systemd on suse, etc. not handling the modem initialization after update to systemd. So before I end up with an issue, I thought I would ask if anyone else has made the jump to systemd with hylafax. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] PKGBUILD-perl.proto
by Myra Nelson 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

While working on some AUR packages, I took a look at the PKGBUILD prototypes that come with pacman. The one difference that I had a question about has to do with this snippet: _author=AUTHOR_NAME _perlmod=MODNAME pkgname=perl-$_perlmod pkgver=VERSION Since the MODNAME package being downloaded is, major caveat --usually, BackPAN-Index-0.40.tar.gz that would make the pkgname perl-BackPAN-Index-$pkgver[whatever]. A quick survey of the Arch package database still shows packages still named like perl-backpan-index-$pkgver[whatever]. I've yet to use the pkgname style, but was wondering if this is the future of perl package naming? Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] pm-suspend stuck at uhci_hcd
by Manne Merak 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

Hi, Couple of updates ago suspend to RAM stopped working. Looking at the pm-suspend.log (below) file shows that it gets stuck at unloading uhci_hcd? I can unload and load the module by hand just fine. Anyone else have this? Manne ------- Wed May 16 21:06:10 SAST 2012: Running hooks for suspend. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: Linux hanslaptop 3.3.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 13 09:59:18 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux Module Size Used by fuse 59284 2 vboxnetadp 6727 0 vboxnetflt 16787 0 hidp 11791 1 rfcomm 28730 8 bnep 7254 2 usbhid 31477 0 btusb 10047 4 bluetooth 150114 28 btusb,bnep,rfcomm,hidp hid 66633 2 usbhid,hidp uvcvideo 60797 0 videobuf2_vmalloc 1736 1 uvcvideo videobuf2_memops 1562 1 videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_core 18103 1 uvcvideo videodev 72205 1 uvcvideo media 8513 2 videodev,uvcvideo snd_hda_codec_idt 48318 1 nvidia 10925239 44 snd_hda_intel 20080 2 arc4 1118 2 iwl3945 49250 0 iwlegacy 42390 1 iwl3945 b44 22954 0 ssb 41732 1 b44 joydev 7663 0 snd_hda_codec 79405 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_idt uhci_hcd 19712 0 mac80211 336883 2 iwlegacy,iwl3945 firewire_ohci 27283 0 firewire_core 44257 1 firewire_ohci r852 9032 0 sm_common 6510 1 r852 nand 42135 2 sm_common,r852 nand_ecc 3192 1 nand nand_ids 3629 1 nand dell_wmi 1217 0 sparse_keymap 2532 1 dell_wmi ehci_hcd 38640 0 serio_raw 3709 0 pcmcia 31438 1 ssb mii 3439 1 b44 iTCO_wdt 10773 0 mtd 26317 2 nand,sm_common snd_pcm 60499 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel snd_page_alloc 5901 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel sdhci_pci 8683 0 cfg80211 153196 3 mac80211,iwlegacy,iwl3945 sdhci 20362 1 sdhci_pci mmc_core 73191 3 sdhci,sdhci_pci,ssb i2c_i801 6992 0 psmouse 69902 0 i2c_core 16845 3 i2c_i801,nvidia,videodev wmi 7259 1 dell_wmi dell_laptop 9400 0 iTCO_vendor_support 1545 1 iTCO_wdt crc_itu_t 1095 1 firewire_core usbcore 122751 6 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,uvcvideo,btusb,usbhid pcmcia_core 10241 1 pcmcia snd_hwdep 4970 1 snd_hda_codec intel_agp 8688 0 intel_gtt 11193 1 intel_agp agpgart 22159 3 intel_gtt,intel_agp,nvidia r592 10291 0 snd_timer 15158 1 snd_pcm snd 45013 10 snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_idt memstick 5616 1 r592 soundcore 4986 1 snd usb_common 622 1 usbcore rfkill 12600 4 dell_laptop,cfg80211,bluetooth dcdbas 4340 1 dell_laptop evdev 7310 21 thermal 6563 0 battery 5053 0 button 3614 0 ac 1796 0 video 9819 0 vboxdrv 195748 2 vboxnetflt,vboxnetadp cpufreq_powersave 674 0 acpi_cpufreq 5145 1 mperf 1027 1 acpi_cpufreq processor 23476 3 acpi_cpufreq ext4 384604 1 crc16 1091 2 ext4,bluetooth jbd2 60590 1 ext4 mbcache 4345 1 ext4 sd_mod 25867 3 sr_mod 13148 0 cdrom 30504 1 sr_mod pata_acpi 2388 0 ata_generic 2391 0 ahci 17689 2 libahci 16783 1 ahci ata_piix 18616 0 libata 145743 5 ata_piix,libahci,ahci,ata_generic,pata_acpi scsi_mod 112765 3 libata,sr_mod,sd_mod total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2067496 1125712 941784 0 83492 693888 -/+ buffers/cache: 348332 1719164 Swap: 2104508 0 2104508 /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01laptop-mode suspend suspend: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01laptop-mode suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/11netcfg suspend suspend: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/11netcfg suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend: success. Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/50-hdparm_pm suspend suspend: /etc/pm/sleep.d/50-hdparm_pm suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55wicd suspend suspend: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55wicd suspend suspend: success. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend: Unloading kernel module uhci_hcd...

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[arch-general] perl-berkeleydb apparent typo in dependency
by David Benfell 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think this says it all (output from pacman -Syu): :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date multilib is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "db=5.3.21", a dependency of "perl-berkeleydb" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: perl-berkeleydb error: failed to prepare transaction (unexpected error) Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPyotOAAoJELT202JKF+xp02sP/2zNuSE9r+vfajD2QK966gcK /2C8zX0oWGQPfkQRCKrZ8sV16xIyMxzxR+JQ2GCp2ybqxffxG+IgyHEyKEalnYcJ pYOU5x224fnQN6KjnyD8ab5v9spoBCkKoCNv/3HCswB6vjJDqA/vf/SsrjylqvFS OxRzBITaT1zTnddB1QfWNdm2euN61+c/ASASQCjCHIaME8QvNjk9Btw8bFKuFOIB WmILkvCHDGv64zecDDR9+gx8J7ApdYHZWPjaPzbCjs9dXenRCBcJA6wdsK4WCE6H aruibBwT5JVREcpKg1MPtORWLRXQ5gJE00X+E7eg0EiMOz8SkupvzNYocAF8FcTE fc9rIDWHHteFfbrAwsT3FH+BtyDuO7A/fqmUMFwYMqDy5ZNhtBSAKIvB3rSkZhSr BoQRsTl9oC8N23dRYFrEFfvAfvZbyPSwZuDPk12Co5FQrctMhtN7tgPD/8Rg0DSr 5TkV9tHP+G/qigNk6OUUF9LNcRo2USlEVwSOKsGH9dIev54bqo5cE+CdypjEhN1B kwOWNnAvUaE4aLZsnCXAeazwfNGJ5D0XPA6Fr3Nmm1yv7wBjPdbb2VduKyC8E7Ex J1Tq06EwbDRmGbH9i7DGRk8aG7recx9cE7JGk3fvkCZhu021xlJ1P+B0IwPq2wM2 OcWsSyoVKpyZ1musTeEx =S4N7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] heimdal dependency preventing upgrade? (it's not even installed? )
by David C. Rankin 02 Jun '12

02 Jun '12

guys, Trying to update tonight and I ran into a problem where the install failed due to a heimdal dependency. heimdal isn't even installed. The output looked like: 00:48 nirvana:~> pmsu -w :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date archlinuxfr is up to date aaany is up to date aapkg is up to date kdemod3 is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... warning: audiofile: ignoring package upgrade (0.3.2-1 => 0.3.4-1) warning: shadow: ignoring package upgrade (4.1.4.3-5 => 4.1.5-4) :: Replace sqlite3-doc with extra/sqlite-doc? [Y/n] :: Replace sqlite3-tcl with extra/sqlite-tcl? [Y/n] :: Replace udev with core/systemd-tools? [Y/n] resolving dependencies... warning: dependency cycle detected: warning: systemd-tools will be installed before its util-linux dependency error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: kdemod3-kdelibs: requires heimdal :: kdemod3-kdesdk-base: requires heimdal The odd part is I've been using this save desktop for 2 years as we work toward the next 3.14 TDE release coming shortly. Whey would heimdal suddenly appear as a dependency when it was never complained about as a dependency before? Any thoughts of where to look? Could this be triggered by udev deletion? How? What say the experts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] weird kde crashes
by Lukáš Jirkovský 02 Jun '12

02 Jun '12

Is anyone experiencing lots weird crashes of KDE applications recently? I'm getting tons of crashes very often, sometimes less then ten minutes between a bunch of crashes (Aaargh, KNotify, KMix, Krunner, Plasma, Kded and KMix crashed within a second while writing this email). It started here after the recent upgrade. The upgrade log looks like this: [2012-06-01 17:46] Running 'pacman -Syu' [2012-06-01 17:46] synchronizing package lists [2012-06-01 17:46] starting full system upgrade [2012-06-01 17:46] removed udev (182-4) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded util-linux (2.21.1-2 -> 2.21.2-1) [2012-06-01 17:46] installed systemd-tools (184-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded bluez (4.99-2 -> 4.99-6) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded consolekit (0.4.6-3 -> 0.4.6-4) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded device-mapper (2.02.95-4 -> 2.02.95-6) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded cryptsetup (1.4.2-1 -> 1.4.2-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded initscripts (2012.05.1-1 -> 2012.05.1-3) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded libatasmart (0.18-1 -> 0.18-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded udisks (1.0.4-3 -> 1.0.4-4) [2012-06-01 17:46] installed media-player-info (16-1) [2012-06-01 17:46] installed herqq (1.0.0-1) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded kdelibs (4.8.3-1 -> 4.8.3-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded khrplatform-devel (8.0.3-1 -> 8.0.3-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded mesa (8.0.3-1 -> 8.0.3-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded lib32-mesa (8.0.3-3 -> 8.0.3-3.1) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded libcanberra (0.28-4 -> 0.28-5) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded libglapi (8.0.3-1 -> 8.0.3-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded libegl (8.0.3-1 -> 8.0.3-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded libgles (8.0.3-1 -> 8.0.3-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded libpulse (2.0-1 -> 2.0-2) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded soundkonverter (1.5.0-1 -> 1.6.0-1) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded xorg-server-common (1.12.1.902-1 -> 1.12.2-1) [2012-06-01 17:46] upgraded xorg-server (1.12.1.902-1 -> 1.12.2-1) It seems most of the crashes occur somewhere in Qt. I'm suspecting it might be udev related, as most of these updates were because of the udev rebuild. Any idea what can be behind these crashes? Lukas

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[arch-general] systemd
by solsTiCe d'Hiver 02 Jun '12

02 Jun '12

hi. since the recent news, I have decided to give a try to systemd. I am following the wiki page about it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd Sorry for the newbie question but, why are /etc/hostname, /etc/vconsole.conf, /etc/timezone, /etc/locale.conf not in the systemd package ? I know they are very specific to my system but so is rc.conf but it is nonetheless part of initscripts Also, I vaguely remember that service are symlinked in /etc/systemd/.../something from /usr/lib/systemd/something. This step is not even mentionned in the wiki page In fact, I am looking at a tutorial to configure my system with systemd and all the service/daemon I already use. I don't even talk about lvm/cryptsetup stuff... So, how do you guys have done this ? I don't mind if you tell me to RTFM but where is the manual ? I need to read some doc. to understand how this thing works too.

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