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[arch-general] Recent network issues on one of my computers
by Magnus Therning 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

After a bit of fiddling with systemd I now seem to have one of my systems back in working order, but not the second. They were of course both fully working before the recent systemd issues. They are fairly similar in setup (only difference, besides HW, is one uses LVM and the other doesn't). However, on one I have a fully functioning network, and on the other it's only half-functioning. The problem is I don't really know where to start looking for solving this. By "half functioning" I mean: 1. I get an IP via dhcp, using wicd. Wireless network. 2. I can make full connections (SSH) to other computers on the local networkd (using IP and mdns both work). 3. I can ping www.google.com and it looks like this: $ ping www.google.com PING www.l.google.com (209.85.173.104) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from lpp01m01-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.173.104): icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=36.4 ms 64 bytes from lpp01m01-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.173.104): icmp_req=2 ttl=55 time=33.6 ms ... However, what I can't do is point chromium to www.google.com and get it to download the page. Chromium says DNS lookup fails. Pacman fails stating the same reason. Point 3 above suggests resolve.conf is correct, and it is indeed pointing to the wireless router like it's supposed to. Any suggestions on where to start looking for solving this? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Perl is another example of filling a tiny, short-term need, and then being a real problem in the longer term. -- Alan Kay

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[arch-general] [signoff] ipw2200-fw-1.3-7 and ipw2100-fw-3.1-5
by Tom Gundersen 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Hi guys, These packages have been in testing for some time without any signoffs, so signoffs from users as well as devs would be appreciated. The only change should be that the firmware has moved from /lib/firmware to /usr/lib/firmware. Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] Old packages
by Guillermo Leira 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Hello! I've seen that I have some very old packages installed: [gleira@guillelinux ~]$ pacman -Qi|grep "Fecha de instal"|grep 2009 Fecha de instalación : sáb 26 dic 2009 00:07:06 CET Fecha de instalación : mié 04 mar 2009 08:46:20 CET Fecha de instalación : vie 14 ago 2009 20:25:57 CEST Fecha de instalación : sáb 23 may 2009 13:05:17 CEST Fecha de instalación : sáb 26 dic 2009 00:07:06 CET [gleira@guillelinux ~]$ How can I find which packages are they? Best Regards, Guillermo Leira

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Re: [arch-general] ASLR and PIE wider adoption.
by Kant 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Impossible to implement without patching toolchain defaults (Never going to happen) or wrapping the compiler. Fedora/Ubuntu handle it on a per-package basis.

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[arch-general] KRunner crashes
by Paul Gideon Dann 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Hi Guys, Has anyone else been experiencing krunner and screen locker crashes these last few days in KDE? Paul

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[arch-general] Cannot boot since latest -Syu
by "Jérôme M. Berger" 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Hi, Since yesterday's upgrade, I cannot boot using the "normal" image. The fallback image still works. The issue is that my RAID arrays are not recognized. I have checked that the mdadm hook is still present in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf I have tried re-running mkinitcpio -p linux -> no change. I have tried downgrading mkinitcpio to the previous version -> mkinitcpio complains about a missing file: /lib/modprobe.d/usb-load-ehci-first.conf then neither image works. I have tried downgrading the kernel -> no change. Is there something that I need to change in my configuration or should I file a bug? Thanks, Jerome -- mailto:jeberger@free.fr http://jeberger.free.fr Jabber: jeberger(a)jabber.fr

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[arch-general] cpufrequtils in [core]
by Leonid Isaev 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Hi, Cpufrequtils 008 in [core] has long been orphaned and, as you know, actually deprecated upstream since linux 3.1 (http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.1) Instead, there is cpupower (aka cpufrequtils 009) included in linux/tools and available in [community], which is stable at least in my experience. Is there anything preventing it from replacing core/cpufrequtils? Thanks. -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] shebang for python scripts
by Ralf Schmitt 17 Apr '12

17 Apr '12

Hi all, I've opened https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28881 "meld uses wrong shebang" some time ago. The description reads: ,---- | meld uses "#! /usr/bin/env python2" as shebang. It should use "#! | /usr/bin/python2". `---- The bug has been closed as "Not a bug" and "Works fine as-is". I've tried to reopen it, which has been denied, with the following comment: ,---- | Reason for denial: | Avoid using virtualenvs or install pygtk in them. `---- The above is not a "reason for denial" but a workaround, and strictly speaking a bad workaround. A good workaround would be to "put no custom paths in front of the archlinux provided paths in PATH". I really do think the user should be able to install custom python versions in his home directory (be it through virtualenv or by compiling from sources) and put them in front of PATH without breaking random python scripts in /usr/bin. Generally I'm quite impressed by the good decisions and great work being made by the archlinux developers, but in this case I'm deeply disappointed and can't really understand the rationale behind this decision. Can someone explain it to me please? Please also explain why some programs do have a /usr/bin/python2 shebang and some don't! -- Cheers Ralf

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[arch-general] The proper "home" directories for 'no-login' users
by Vladimir Lomov 17 Apr '12

17 Apr '12

Hello, please, consider the following output of part of mine /etc/passwd: $ sudo grep ':/:' /etc/passwd cron:x:22:22::/:/bin/false dbus:x:81:81:System message bus:/:/bin/false hal:x:82:82:HAL daemon:/:/bin/false avahi:x:84:84:Avahi daemon:/:/bin/false nobody:x:99:99:nobody:/:/bin/false dnsmasq:x:999:999:dnsmasq daemon:/:/sbin/nologin usbmux:x:140:140:usbmux user:/:/sbin/nologin These 'users' are not allowed to login: either '/bin/false' or '/sbin/nologin' is used as login shell (another question raises: why two variants? why not just '/bin/false' or '/sbin/nologin'?) but they home directoriy is '/'. I wonder why '/' was chosen for that? Is it possible to change home directories for these 'users' to, say, '/dev/null' or '/nonexistent'? The origin of my question comes from use of 'davfs': when used by normal user (being member of 'network' group) 'mount.davfs' refuse mounting to '/mnt/webdav' because '/' is home directory for some users. I found this 'workaround': http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/WebDAV (sec. "Troubleshooting") so manually changed the home directories for these users to '/dev/null' (I'm not sure is it save or good way). --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- The Great Movie Posters: She's got the biggest six-shooters in the West! -- The Beautiful Blonde from Bashful Bend (1949) CAST OF 3,000! 4 WRITERS, 2 DIRECTORS, 3 CAMERAMEN, 3 PRODUCERS! 1 YEAR TO MAKE THIS FILM -- 24 YEARS TO REHEARSE -- 20 YEARS TO DISTRIBUTE! BEAUTIFUL BEYOND WORDS! AWE-INSPIRING! VITAL! THE PRINCE OF PEACE PROVIDES THE ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM! Be Brave--bring your troubles and your family to: HISTORY'S MOST SUBLIME EVENT! YOU'LL FIND GOD RIGHT IN THERE! -- The Prince of Peace (1948). Starring members of the Wichita Mountain Pageant featuring Millard Coody as Jesus.

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[arch-general] ASLR and PIE wider adoption.
by Kevin Chadwick 17 Apr '12

17 Apr '12

With more and more distros and even android employing gccs -fpie for building packages, should Arch consider enabling it. For my users it would mean less programs being killed by the grsecurity kernel due to text relocation attempts. No complaints yet as I have a sandboxed flash browser but eventually there may be one about x264/mp4. For everyone else it would mean a more secure system due to better use of ASLR. Are complications like static binaries an issue arch simply hasn't the time to deal with (does gcc work around them automatically now?) and do users care more about adding upto a few seconds to the start up time of some programs on x86 over security?

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