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[arch-general] Monitoring changes to [core], [extra], [community]
by Magnus Therning 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

Is there some convenient way of monitoring changes to the Arch repos? The reason for asking is the work we do in ArchHaskell. Due to how ghc (the Haskell compiler) works it's necessary to re-compile and re-link a package when one of its dependencies changes. In this case "changes" includes a bump of pkgrel as well. Currently we're not trying to track any changes to the dependencies living in [extra] and [community], which means that at times packages in ArchHaskell breaks until a user notices it. Are there any tools that can help out with this? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus(a)therning.org jabber: magnus(a)therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves. -- Alan Kay

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[arch-general] [signoff] pciutils-3.1.8-1
by Tobias Powalowski 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

* Released as 3.1.8. * More capabilities: Transaction Processing Hints, Latency Tolerance Reporting. Thanks to Jesse Barnes. * Added BeOS and Haiku ports. Contributed by Francois Revol. * pciutils.pc now uses Libs.private properly. * When we format a name and it does not fit in the buffer, we truncate it instead of returning "buffer too small" instead. This works on all platforms with sane (i.e., C99-compatible) snprintf(). * Various minor bug fixes. * Updated pci.ids to the today's snapshot of the database. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Programs Not Closing
by Squall Lionheart 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

Hello, Ever since the upgrade to KDE 4.7 several weeks ago, a lot of programs seem to hang in the Task Manager after I close them. They will remain for a long time or until I open another application. I also have an occasional application crash when I shutdown. Unfortunately, the crash message tells me nothing of what program is crashing and I'm not sure if it's related. My question for everyone is regarding the programs hanging around since it's a regular thing and is most likely the cause of the latter. Is this a common thing or do I have some conflict somewhere, or a service that isn't happy? I run pacman -Suy almost daily and use Firefox, Thunderbird, Kopete, Yakuake, VirtualBox, Terminal, Kwrite, and BOINC on a regular bases. I put my system to sleep nightly and shutdown at the end of the week. DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus network !netfs crond alsa @cupsd @boinc @samba). I hope that's enough info. Thank you -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual

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Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.
by Leif Warner 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

So a convention continuously in use longer than I've been alive is dropped, and the notification for this is tucked in the init script that you get to see on your next (broken) reboot? I had just partioned and set up an Arch system with seperate /usr, /var, /tmp, and /home partitions, as always, last week. A little heads-up might've been nice. At the very least, a message in the .install script to get notified on upgrade would be helpful. And yes, things are more broken than before: minilogd was moved from /sbin to /usr/sbin. Any other changes that drop boot support coming down I should know about? -Leif

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[arch-general] update
by Carlos Alberto Ospina 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

hi everyones!! cuando corro pacman -Syu se demora muchisimo, todo esto despues de actualizar gnome 3.2. Rhytmbox tampoco me corre. somebody know when i update, its very slowly. Rhytmbox doesnt work too. All this after upgrading gnome 3.2. un saludo a tod@s -- Carlos Alberto Ospina E. Linux User #506652

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[arch-general] no ACPI estimate in powertop with latest kernels
by Neal Haslam 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Hello everyone, Powertop reports "no ACPI power usage estimate available" with x86_64 kernels 3.0.6-1 and 3.0.6-2. Downgrading to kernel 3.0.4-1 restored power estimates. Older kernels had always worked in the past. Processor is Intel i3, quad core, in a ThinkPad Edge 14 running Gnome 3.2 fully upgraded daily. -- Neal

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[arch-general] See the llvm volumes from GRUB console
by Alfredo Palhares 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Hello, I upgarded a remote machine recently. And i got loocked out of the system. I still have acess to the machine trough serial console (KVM). Is there any way to list the lvm volumes from there ? Since my /dev/mapper/Root-root doesn't work. -- Regards, Alfredo Palhares

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[arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures
by Myra Nelson 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Since I don't listen in on irc conversations and haven't picked up on this being discussed on the mailing list, I thought I would go ahead and ask a seemingly dumb question. When building a pacakge from core, extra, or community with makepkg should I locate the signature key for the source tarball and import it into the pacman-key database, or will there be a mechanism for this in the future, or since the same package is used by the devs is it completely unnecessry for me to worry about? Obviously the build completes after issuing the warning about a problem with signature verification and being sure you trust the package so it's not a problem, I'm just trying to stay ahead of the curve. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?
by Oon-Ee Ng 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Testing#.5Btesting.5D states the following (paraphrased for summary):- [testing] is for experienced users who can deal with broken systems, not for the 'absolute latest' package versions. It may break critical/[core] packages, as such users are strongly encouraged to subscribe to [arch-dev-public] and watch the [testing] sub-forum. Second reference - this forum thread - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=128682 A user basically is using [testing] without fulfilling the above requirements. Should the user be advised not to use [testing] or is this counter-productive to the purpose of [testing]? This discussion is not meant to be commentary on any of the personalities involved in the thread, the thread did spark this but I'd like to hear (esp from devs/TUs) opinions on the general case, not the specific case. The reason for this is that its possible there's quite a bit of difference in opinions, and some clarity would (IMO) help. My personal opinion - If you don't fulfil the above requirement you should not use [testing], and other Arch users should graciously inform you as such. Sorry for the long email, feel free to mute this thread, since I do know its got high potential for unproductive cross-chatter.

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[arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately
by Steve Holmes 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

I've been doing 'pacman -Syu' for several days in a row lately to see no updates. Is bibleo.org still a good repo in the US? Is aArch all that quiet lately or am I missing something?

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