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[arch-general] qemu-kvm vs. qemu upstream
by C Anthony Risinger 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > If this is virtualbox specific, I'd try qemu-kvm. hey, i was just trying to get a concrete answer about this the other day, so maybe you can clarify because i keep reading conflicting and/or outdated information. AFAICS, qemu-kvm is still _different_ from upstream kvm support in qemu, correct? i tried rebuilding qemu several times, ensuring i had all the options i wanted (SPICE/kvm/etc) and i was getting absolutely <expletive deleted> performance -- switch to qemu-kvm and she's blazing again, yet many places seem to suggest they are one and the same. i see they definitely have different sources, but would you/anyone care to elaborate on the relationship? C Anthony

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[arch-general] Contributing to netcfg
by Ng Oon-Ee 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hi all, I'm not a coder, but I've written up .service files (for systemd) for netcfg, specifically for net-auto-wired and net-auto-wireless. I have not done the same for net-profiles and net-rename. I was thinking to submit those two files upstream to netcfg development, but I can't seem to find the appropriate place. Should I just make a bug report? For clarification, having these .service files just enables netcfg to be run natively on a systemd system, does not affect the system otherwise (they'd never be called).

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] ncurses-5.8-1
by Loui Chang 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

On Sun 27 Feb 2011 12:01 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > On 27/02/11 10:40, Allan McRae wrote: > >> > >> Major upstream update. > >> > >> Test well. There is no soname bump, but experience tells me that some > >> rebuilds will probably be required to fix minor issues. > >> > > > > I have rebuilt community/stfl to fix a crash (used by newsbeuter). > > > > I will start a TODO list to keep track of packages that require moved with > > ncurses. If you do any rebuilds, please add the package to the list. > > $ tig > tig: Failed to create status window > > I added it to the list (but didn't rebuild it). Rebuild won't do it. tig wants to create zero sized windows which newwin() doesn't allow anymore. We could patch it with some arbitrary size which kind of works, but I emailed the developer to ask how he would deal with it.

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 77, Issue 2
by fredbezies 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

> Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:30:45 +0700 > From: Emmanuel Benisty <benisty.e(a)gmail.com> > To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Bug 22828 makes me "kill" my archlinux > installation > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin1r2J7wMiP0mn7YNKT7FMb9vit=e4sRKYO0LB5(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM, fredbezies <fredbezies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I'm kinda unlucky. I reported bug 22828, having lot of problem with >> gdm which cannot be "killed" at shutdown time. >> >> This morning, before going to work, I faced again this bug. >> >> I had to switch to a tty (using ctrl + alt +F2). >> >> I typed halt to stop my computer, but it won't shutdown properly. >> >> I have to shutdown on my computer, using power button. >> >> When I wanted to boot it again, it is stopped at the start of boot process. >> >> I only get "linux:(none)" prompt and nothing more. >> >> Any idea to avoid a full reinstall ? > > are you sure it's the same issue? if you're using [testing], you most > likely got hit by the bash/readline bug. chroot into your install (see > chroot in archwiki) and downgrade those packages (bash-4.2.005 and > readline-6.2.001) to their former version. > Indeed. It was this broken version. I updated at a bad time. Anyway, downgrading works. Too bad this broken update happened just before I have to go to work :( -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] bash-4.2.005 and readline-6.2.001
by Evangelos Foutras 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Another -1. I would recommand everyone to downgrade to the previous > versions before rebooting or halting their systems. I had to boot from > a live CD in order to downgrade them. > > When shutting down, the following was printed: > > INIT: Switching to runlevel: 6 > INIT: Sending process the TERM signal > INIT: no more process left in this runlevel. > > And then it just hangs. > > On bootup, i got a message about rc.sysinit getting a segfault in > bash. Then some errors about not finding the qingy libraries (I use > qingy as login manager) probably related to the mount issue that Angel > mentionned. Then it hangs. `unset TZ' is the simplest test case that causes a segmentation fault on my system. The culprit appears to be the chkexport function introduced in patch bash42-005 [1]. From the backtrace [2], I gather it should probably check that find_variable returns a non-NULL value. Changing the line after the find_variable call to read "if (v && exported_p (v))" fixes the issue for me. I've sent a bug report to bug-bash(a)gnu.org using the neat bashbug command. :p [1] http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-4.2-patches/bash42-005 [2] http://ompldr.org/vN20yYg

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[arch-general] kde4 loads kde3 parts -- is this a packaging issue?
by David C. Rankin 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Guys, I need some help figuring out where to start in trying to keep kde4 from loading most of kde3 when kde4 is launched from the kdm chooser. A picture is worth 1000 words: [109k] (800x600) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/ArchLinux_kde3+kde4.800.jpg (full res 264k 1280x800) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/ArchLinux_kde3+kde4.jpg In the screenshot, kde (kde4) was launched from the kde4 kdm. The background is the kde4 background. Both the kde3 kicker and kde4 plasma-panel loaded (and are both fully operational) at the bottom of the screen. Launching apps or system settings the panels, properly loads the corresponding kde3/kde4 app. The plasma-desktop has loaded and the kde4 "Desktop Folder is present". The kde4 window decorations are present, but if you rt-click on the desktop, you get the kdemod context menus and all kdemod apps are in the default Domino style. What I'm trying to do is narrow down why this happens on Arch and so we can fix it. I'm guessing this probably happens when kde4-kdelibs or kde4-kdebase gets built and installed, but that is just a guess. This seems to be a packaging issue because it doesn't happen with other distros that have both kde4 and kde3 installed together. It doesn't happen in reverse either with kdemod3 based on Trinity. Loading the updated kdemod3 doesn't load the kde4 panel, but kde4 does load the kde3 panel. Anybody familiar with this issue on Arch and how it might be solved? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Bug 22828 makes me "kill" my archlinux installation
by fredbezies 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hello. I'm kinda unlucky. I reported bug 22828, having lot of problem with gdm which cannot be "killed" at shutdown time. This morning, before going to work, I faced again this bug. I had to switch to a tty (using ctrl + alt +F2). I typed halt to stop my computer, but it won't shutdown properly. I have to shutdown on my computer, using power button. When I wanted to boot it again, it is stopped at the start of boot process. I only get "linux:(none)" prompt and nothing more. Any idea to avoid a full reinstall ? Thanks a lot. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Doubt about signed packages.
by Keerthan jai.c 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Why can't we do this? 1) Keep hashes of {core,extra,community,multilib}.db in plaintext in keys.archlinux.org or something 2) while syncing pacman compares the hashes of the downloaded dbs from the main server ensuring that the packages are not tampered! -- have a nice day -jck

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] bash-4.2.005 and readline-6.2.001
by Emmanuel Benisty 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

2011/3/1 Ángel Velásquez <angvp(a)archlinux.org>: > 2011/2/28 Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org>: >> Upstream patchlevel bumps. There were the (fairly minor) bug fixes I was >> waiting for beofre moving bash-4.2 and readline-6.2 to [core]. >> >> Signoff both, >> Allan >> > > -1 > > Broke my system > > I had to remount everything and downgrade manually (partitions wasn't > mounting) and initscripts got broken same here.

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[arch-general] GSoC 2011
by William Holbrook 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hello all! I'm William Holbrook, a sophomore at Morehead State University (located in the eastern part of Kentucky, United States). I'm planning on applying to GSoC this year, and I think it'd be awesome to see Arch on the list of mentoring organizations. I read a few days back on the arch-dev-public mailing list about the possibility of Arch applying as a mentoring organization. From what I can gather, Arch hasn't participated in previous GSoC's. I've looked at some of the project ideas thrown around in arch-dev-public for this year's GSoC. Package signing appears to be desired by some members of the community, and it would make things more secure (gotta love trusting your favorite mirror). It seems to have been worked on quite a bit in this past month by Denis Falqueto on the pacman-dev mailing list (possibly some others; difficulties reading plaintext mailing lists). An interesting project! I've always thought about what would be a good way to become a part of the FOSS scene, and I think that GSoC will help me do just that. I hope to see Arch on the list of organizations when it comes time for students to begin applying! -- William Holbrook II Mathematics Major Computer Science Major Morehead State University

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