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[arch-general] wxpython in Arch?
by Jorge Almeida 18 Jan '11

18 Jan '11

What did I miss? I'm new to Arch, so maybe I failed to do something obvious. I was a Gentoo user and I know that python configuring is not always trivial. Maybe something should have been done after installing the packages? I checked that there is no WiKi page for wxpython, and the python page doesn't help. Neither does googling... TIA Jorge Almeida $ pacman -Q wxpython wxpython 2.8.11.0-2 $ pacman -Q wxgtk wxgtk 2.8.11-2 $ python Python 3.1.3 (r313:86834, Dec 1 2010, 12:35:23) [GCC 4.5.1 20101125 (prerelease)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import wx Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> ImportError: No module named wx

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[arch-general] Alex Matviychuk wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
by Alex Matviychuk 18 Jan '11

18 Jan '11

LinkedIn ------------ General, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Alex Matviychuk Alex Matviychuk Software Engineer Japan Confirm that you know Alex Matviychuk https://www.linkedin.com/e/j2jirp-gj2k8868-1k/isd/2161969956/yna0iLD9/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation

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[arch-general] xfce4's terminal does not understand unicode/utf8?
by Nicolas Bigaouette 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

Hi all, I have set LOCALE="fr_CA.utf8" in rc.conf since I installed Arch some years ago. Since then, I was using KDE and I could see utf8 characters in the terminal. I've switched to Xfce 4.6 some weeks ago but now I get "??" in the terminal whenever I use UTF8 characters. When I type "locale" locally, I get: LANG= LC_CTYPE="POSIX" LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIME="POSIX" LC_COLLATE="POSIX" LC_MONETARY="POSIX" LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" LC_PAPER="POSIX" LC_NAME="POSIX" LC_ADDRESS="POSIX" LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX" LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX" LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX" LC_ALL= But when I connect through ssh (from a KDE machine), I get this: LANG=fr_CA.utf8 LC_CTYPE="fr_CA.utf8" LC_NUMERIC="fr_CA.utf8" LC_TIME="fr_CA.utf8" LC_COLLATE="fr_CA.utf8" LC_MONETARY="fr_CA.utf8" LC_MESSAGES="fr_CA.utf8" LC_PAPER="fr_CA.utf8" LC_NAME="fr_CA.utf8" LC_ADDRESS="fr_CA.utf8" LC_TELEPHONE="fr_CA.utf8" LC_MEASUREMENT="fr_CA.utf8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="fr_CA.utf8" LC_ALL= What's wrong here?? terminal 0.4.5-1 (xfce4) Thanks! N

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[arch-general] Problems to install bootchart
by Darío 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

Hi! i have a problem to install bootchart from pacman and open this file type, because when i write tar -xzvf file.tar.gz the following message appears: error: 'bootchart': no se pudo encontrar o leer el paquete (could not find or read the package) on yaourt -S bootchart conflicts for install acct: ==> Downloading bootchart PKGBUILD from AUR... x fix-inittab-regex.patch x PKGBUILD x bootchart.install x bootchart-render bootchart 0.9-9 : Boot Process Performance Visualization ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! ) ==> Edit PKGBUILD ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort) ==> ------------------------------------ ==> n ==> bootchart dependencies: - sh (already installed) - apache-ant (already installed) - java-environment>=6 (already installed) - acct (building from AUR) ==> Edit bootchart.install ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort) ==> --------------------------------------------- ==> n ==> Continue building bootchart ? [Y/n] ==> ----------------------------------- ==> ==> Building and installing package ==> Install or build missing dependencies for bootchart: ==> Downloading acct PKGBUILD from AUR... x PKGBUILD x acct.install Comment by: bash on Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:43:24 +0000 * moved from [extra] Comment by: speps on Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:05:08 +0000 @all Package owned and updated. First Submitted: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:43:17 +0000 acct 6.5.5-1 : The GNU Accounting Utilities provide login and process accounting utilities for GNU/Linux and other systems. ( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! ) ==> Edit PKGBUILD ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort) ==> ------------------------------------ ==> n ==> acct dependencies: - glibc (already installed) ==> Edit acct.install ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort) ==> ---------------------------------------- ==> n ==> Continue building acct ? [Y/n] ==> ------------------------------ ==> ==> Building and installing package ==> WARNING: Building package as root is dangerous. Please run yaourt as a non-privileged user. ==> Creando el paquete: acct 6.5.5-1 (dom ene 16 18:15:23 ART 2011) ==> Comprobando Dependencias en tiempo de Ejecución... ==> Comprobando Dependencias en tiempo de Compilación... ==> Obteniendo Fuentes... -> Descargando acct-6.5.5.tar.gz... --2011-01-16 18:15:23-- http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/acct/acct-6.5.5.tar.gz Resolviendo ftp.gnu.org... 140.186.70.20 Connecting to ftp.gnu.org|140.186.70.20|:80... conectado. Petición HTTP enviada, esperando respuesta... 200 OK Longitud: 747225 (730K) [application/x-gzip] Saving to: `acct-6.5.5.tar.gz.part' 100%[======================================>] 747.225 228K/s in 3,2s 2011-01-16 18:15:27 (228 KB/s) - `acct-6.5.5.tar.gz.part' saved [747225/747225] ==> Validando el archivo fuente con md5sums... acct-6.5.5.tar.gz ... Aprobado ==> Descomprimiendo fuentes... -> Extrayendo acct-6.5.5.tar.gz con bsdtar ==> Iniciando build()... (Starting build) checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub i686-pc-linux- failed Abortando... (Aborting) ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build acct. ==> Restart building acct ? [y/N] apparently seems to be a problem with settings of the PC architecture, but my pc is i686 Thanks to all Dario

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[arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager
by C Anthony Risinger 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > On 01/12/2011 10:51 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> I want new thoughts about what the meaning of a package is ... and how >> it can be better represented for derivation from it's integrals; >> source code and user state. the tarball has served us well for a long >> time, but ... in the now-time of cheap encryption, distributed clouds, >> parallel peers and ... > > So you want to talk calculus do you? Perhaps the method of strained time and > strained coordinates would would give a better approximation? Poincare-Linstedt > maybe? ehm, it was more a play on words; but yeah, a package is a living target, derived from and bound to higher order constraints. they don't need to be the static, rigid snapshots they currently are, but it requires a different way of thinking about what a package is, and the purpose it fulfills. > Seriously, I've been very impressed with Arch packaging compared to rpm or deb. > KISS has served Arch well. oh sure it works well enough, else i probably wouldn't be here right now having this conversation... but that doesn't mean there is anything novel or even remotely interesting about pacman. they all suck equally IMO, but if your willing to part with the various management features pacman drops and the complexities it adds to be "KISS", then it can usually drag you where you want to be. if you think a package's purpose is to simply add some files to your system in a revocable way then you've missed the point; computers work for us. _i_ chose to install that package for a purpose; _i_ want the computer to assume some initial state, any react to system events. _i_ don't really give a !@#$ about files, how it accomplishes my directive, or what the computer thinks it wants. > The only thoughts I've had on the issue were with the > gzipped package directory format of the repository indexes, but I don't see > anything wrong with it. It works as well as it would in a flat file format or in > some record oriented db format. I'm sure there is a faster way to do it, but I > haven't noticed any slowness with the current system. it's less about speed, and more about creating a package structure that's able to track the source it's derived from, merge with custom "code sinks"/overlays, and integrate itself with the behavioral requirements of the target system, as defined by the integrator/user. it's about creating a structure that is at it's core cross-distro; a structure with the plasticity to absorb modifications from many sources, re-configure and trim itself as needed, and acquire the bits it needs to assume the state asked of it. > A package in any distro provides the necessary installables along with a way to > check for conflicts and resolve dependencies. The current packages do that well. sure, they do it well if, during each release iteration, every little step has been perfectly spelled out for them by a human "packager", you don't deviate from the "official" monolithic package pools, and you never want to do anything interesting or custom. like i said, a bulk download + extraction is the part the manager performs ... ie. brain dead ... the rest of the logic was hand crafted by humans. > The only differences that I've seen with pacman vs. some of the others were in > areas of handling or anticipating previously installed config or font files that > cause rare install failures. But, I think the KISS vs. 'try to anticipate > everything' argument ways in favor of not radically changing how pacman handles > these issues -- unless there is just a wealth of unused resources laying around > to experiment with. it's not about anticipation of the future/infinity, but rather guidance from the source, peer heuristics, and input from the integrator. technologies like systemd + augeas + git/DVCS + DBUS + ... + ... provide 99% of the tools/foundational ideas, they just need to be combined in a intelligent way and applied to the problem of state management. > Great question. I'd also be interested in what other ideas there are about > positive and realistic improvement can be made to the current system. create DBUS bindings to pacman core. impl the CLI/[GUI] interfaces on top of common dynamic runtimes like python using those bindings. leverage a revisioning system for package files instead of tarballs, even if only locally. store metadata in a non-relational engine like couchdb (peer replicaition), or at least something like sqlite, for sane access. C Anthony

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[arch-general] Pkgtools v22
by Daenyth Blank 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Hi All, I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge speed increase, and the body has been rewritten in python. Many thanks for brain0 and solstice for doing most of the hard work in making this release happen. It should be hitting the mirrors today, and pkgtools-git from AUR is ready if you just can't wait. Enjoy!

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[arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile
by solsTiCe d'Hiver 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

hi. I started in August a rewrite in python of pkgfile from pkgtools package. The idea was to speed it up and avoid the use of a tree of file and use a sqlite3 db instead. I wrote it quickly and proposed a merge (on github) to Daenyth. He seems to respond well, reviewing the code. But then nothing, except that I vaguely begin to hear about a C python module that read *.files.tar.gz directly. I had to guess that my solution of using an sqlite3 db was not appreciated. I have to admit the intermediate step needed to convert *.files.tar.gz files into sqlite3 db was not that good. By accident, on IRC, I learned that it was brain0 that wrote the module and picked it up on its git repo. I modifed my python code, and made addition to the C module. Later, I also added to the module the possibility to extract full info of a package from desc and depend files in *.db.tar.gz to finalize the rewrite. So it's finished for quite some time now. Daenyth says "he appreciated the hard work" but I see no progress on merging or releasing something so far. The benefit of the rewrite: - super faster speed (thanks to brain0 C module) - download database files from mirror only if updates are available (for http mirrors only) - as a bonus you got a python module written in C that can read packages info in *.files.tar.gz or *.db.tar.gz it's on github https://github.com/solsticedhiver/pkgtools/tree/plan-A a PKGBUILD to build a package of pkgtools with the new pkgfile http://paste.pocoo.org/show/321584/

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libnl 2.0 rebuild
by Ng Oon-Ee 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

In reference to the below:- [testing] is still 'safe' for those using networkmanager? In my understanding libnl1 would work like libpng12 from the AUR so it shouldn't stop working, is that correct? On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 15:18 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > I am uploading i686 packages for the following to testing: > - libnl > - iw > - crda > - wpa_supplicant > - libpcap (with upstream patch) > - net-snmp (my own patch) > > Jan Steffens is trying to fix networkmanager, but this is HUGE. > > - hostapd is easy, just need an option for libnl2 in .config (see SVN > for wpa_supplicant) > - kismet looks easy enough to fix > - I forgot about libvirt, but iirc it wasn't that hard > - No idea about knemo > - simh shouldn't even link to libnl, no idea why it does. >

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[arch-general] umask gnome
by Béla Vizer 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Dear Everyone, I would like to have a system-wide umask settings. If I create eg a directory with mkdir everything is fine, however if I create a directory using Nautilus or even Midnight Commander using Gnome Terminal the file permission settings are different from my .bashrc definition I put .bashrc and /etc/profiles the follwoing line: umask 077 I tried to put it to /etc/gdm/Xsession, I created .gnomerc but nothing. Is it even possible to set a system-wide umask settings?

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[arch-general] makepkg --source makes empty folder src
by Joker-jar 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Why makepkg --source makes empty folder "src"? Is it necessary?

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