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[aur-general] Proposing knot-resolver for community repo
by Tomas Krizek 25 Nov '20

25 Nov '20

Hi, I'd like to ask if you'd consider adopting knot-resolver from AUR [1] into the community repo. The main reason is that the Knot DNS dependency is in the community repository and a soname bump requires a rebuild of Knot Resolver. This happens about twice a year. As you can see from the AUR comments, the users are often confused if they don't do the rebuild and Knot Resolver breaks. Any further debugging is probably quite complicated, since if they use the software as their system resolver, it effectively breaks the DNS resolution, thus preventing access to internet. The knot-resolver package should be quite low maintenance. We (upstream) use sysusers & tmpfiles, ship ready-to-use systemd units and the build time is less than a minute on my laptop. We also have our own upstream PKGBUILD we keep up-to-date [2], so a simple diff of this file against PKGBUILD should be sufficient for any significant changes. It'd be great if any TU (preferably Knot DNS maintainer) could maintain this package in the community repo. Thank you for the consideration! [1] - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/knot-resolver/ [2] - https://gitlab.nic.cz/knot/knot-resolver/-/blob/master/distro/arch/PKGBUILD -- Tomas Krizek PGP: 4A8B A48C 2AED 933B D495 C509 A1FB A5F7 EF8C 4869

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[aur-general] Fwd: Change committer name
by Cyrusmg 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

Hi, could any Trusted User please change committer name for the latest commit I have pushed for "eobcanka" package to "Cyrusmg <aur(a)kulovany.net>" just like I have in previous commits ? I have used my corporate identity and that's not good. "" It should be possible as per "Modify committer or author identity" in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines) Thank you! Cyrus

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[aur-general] TU removal: Evgeniy 'arcanis' Alekseev
by Morten Linderud 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

Yo, I would like to start the discussion period for a Trusted User removal of Evgeniy Alekseev, also known as 'arcanis' on the grounds of 'Special Removal of an Inactive TU' [1]. Evgeniy's last action on archweb was '2019-12-25 20:41', and the last vote they participated in was the removal of shiv 13 montsh ago. I have also attempted sending them an email two times the past 5 months, along with Alad having sent them an email. There has been no replies. The voting procedure will commence after seven days of discussion period, in which Evgeniy can state his case. Cheers, [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html#_special_removal_of_an… -- Morten Linderud PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16

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[aur-general] 1
by .shaia .algahtni 15 Nov '20

15 Nov '20

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[aur-general] Need a password reset for AUR login.
by Derek Taylor 09 Nov '20

09 Nov '20

I have forgotten my password for login to the AUR page. On the page, it says "If you have forgotten the user name and the primary e-mail address you used to register, please send a message to the aur-general mailing list." My user name should be dwt1. But when I click on "forgot password" I never receive any email for a reset (I waited more than a day).

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[aur-general] TU application - bastelfreak
by Tim Meusel 09 Nov '20

09 Nov '20

Hi! I'm Tim Meusel and I want to spent more time in the Arch Linux community and increase the package quality. I first got in touch with open source some years ago in the Puppet Community [0] where I started to love Puppet and FOSS. At the moment I'm employed at a big ISP where I maintain a few thousand systems. My solution of choice for configuration management is Puppet because it fulfills all requirements and is easy to extend. For a few projects I require up2date systems with modern software, that's why i choose Arch Linux. Since Puppet was already present in the company, the Arch Linux boxes were puppetized as well. I wrote or contributed to multiple packages related to Puppet on Arch Linux. foxxx0 and shibumi were so kind to continue maintaining them in the official repositories: * puppet [1] * puppet5 [2] * facter [3] * libwhereami [4] * ruby-deep_merge [5] * ruby-httpclient [6] * ruby-sync [7] * ruby-puppet-resource_api [8] * ruby-semantic_puppet [9] Besides working on open source projects, I spent a huge amount of time for my second passion, cooking and doing BBQ. From time to time I also attend ice hockey events as visitor but also as hobby-referee or player. As a trusted user I would like to co-maintain those packages, enable tests on the PKGBUILDs where tests are currently missing (for example ruby-puppet-resource_api, ruby-semantic_puppet and Puppet), fix the remaining namcap warnings (for example on facter and libwhereami) and also import some other Puppet related tools into the official repository. Some of them are already in the AUR (not all maintained by myself): * fluent-bit (not Puppet related) [10] * ruby-gettext-setup [11] * ruby-minitar [12] * ruby-puppet_forge [13] * ruby-rr [14] * ruby-cri [15] * ruby-test-unit-rr [16] * ruby-fast_gettext [17] * ruby-gettext [18] * ruby-locale [19] * ruby-text [20] * ruby-colored2 [21] * r10k [22] If you check my AUR packages, you might notice the awful ruby-log4r package. That's a dead project where the source code is gone. It's a dependency for r10k. I'm "maintaining" ruby-log4r in the AUR, so I can test and build r10k, but I'm also in contact with the upstream developers to replace this dead dependency. I've no intention to get log4r into any official repository. I talked to shibumi and hashworks in the past days, both reviewed the packages and agreed to sponsor my application. I'm available on Freenode as bastelfreak. I'm pretty active in #archlinux.de and #voxpupuli. My GPG key fingerprint is C10B6298A584A5632E254DA304D659E6BF1C4CC0 best regards, Tim [0] https://voxpupuli.org [1] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [2] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [3] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [4] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [5] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [6] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [7] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [8] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [9] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=pack… [10] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fluent-bit#comment-749760 [11] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-gettext-setup/#comment-725838 [12] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-minitar/#comment-723296 [13] https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ruby-puppet_forge [14] https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ruby-rr [15] https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ruby-cri [16] https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ruby-test-unit-rr [17] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-fast_gettext/#comment-723301 [18] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-gettext/#comment-725388 [19] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-locale/#comment-723294 [20] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-text [21] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ruby-colored2/#comment-771053 [22] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/r10k/#comment-770978

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[aur-general] Fwd: [PRQ#21898] Orphan Request for sge Rejected
by Manhong Dai 24 Oct '20

24 Oct '20

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> Date: Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [PRQ#21898] Orphan Request for sge Rejected To: <noreply(a)aur.archlinux.org> Cc: <aur-requests(a)archlinux.org>, <i(a)jingbei.li> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 7:33 AM Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 6:02 AM <notify(a)aur.archlinux.org> wrote: > >> Request #21898 has been rejected by Foxboron [1]: >> >> Not interested. The sge package is not going to point at your fork. >> >> [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/Foxboron/ > > > Thanks a lot for the reply! But I never ask the current maintainer to > point to my fork. I guess those markdown syntax messed it up. > > This package is in clear text-book copyright violation right now! The > current maintainer is using my original SGE source code patch file without > mentioning I am the patch's author and University of Michigan's copyright. > Further, he split it into many patch files, now those modifications look to > be his contribution as nobody will dig into git history, not to mention > patching with many files is the worst way to promote a software. > > I believe I am the first one in the world who made SGE work under the > latest SSL and GLIBC. I created the single source code patch file, and > initially put it on AUR sge. > > I also tried to settle with the current maintainer, I proposed that he can > keep the package but he has to use my single patch file with the copyright > and author on the top, then remove my name from the PKGBUILD file. He > rejected me. > > Now here are all the facts, could you please reconsider it again? > > 1, I am the original author of the SGE source code patch file, I put my > source code patch file on AUR sge. > 2. I didn't receive any email notification before the package was taken > over, This is confirmed by a TU > 3, I didn't join AUR-general before the package was taken over, and the > same TU confirmed that this is not required. > 4, I tried to settle with the current maintainer, and asked him to respect > Copyright and original author, he rejected me. > 5, The current maintainer's PKGBUILD doesn't work, and he 'git push' three > times anyway, while knowing it fails. It took him 7 days to fix a 'cd' > error. > > Everything above are true facts, and it can be verified in court, and I am > willing to take any penalty if they are not fact. > > Now, the simple question is, can any original work put on AUR be taken > away like this? > > Best, > Manhong > > Request #22028 has been rejected by Foxboron [1]: Patches has been removed. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/Foxboron/ Thanks! @Foxboron. it is all good as long as my original work is not involved now. As programmers, I always respect and acknowledge other people's work and expect the same from others. Truly appreciate those who helped me, including a few users who forwarded me the emails on this list. Or I probably will never know such an email list exists. So sorry I cannot mention your names as I just got 1000+ mail list subscription confirmation in one day. I also want to say sorry to those who feel these are spams. The thing is this kind of issues will happen from time to time as AUR doesn't associate a project with user name. I hope a little waste of your time will set a good AUR standard from now on. This is a good lesson for me too, as I will put copyright/license on all my work, no matter it is MIT, GPL or BSD, and should have published my work originally on github. SGE will be continued on my github project as I will make it more Linux friendly and totally ditch some unnecessary features, such as Windows support, whenever I find nothing better to do. As I added cmake compiling support recently, followup development will be much easier. Have a good day! Feel free to send me email directly at daimh(a)umich.edu. Best, Manhong PS, If someone wants to subscribe me on another 1000+ email lists again, please find some truly interesting ones. My hobbies are hunting, fishing and racing. Thanks in advance! Sorry I just found I sent to a wrong list... again.... Hopefully this is the last email I sent to aur-general.

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[aur-general] Sge delete request
by Manhong Dai 24 Oct '20

24 Oct '20

Request #22025 has been rejected by Foxboron [1]: PKGBUILDs are standard enough to not constitute original work. Please stop abusing the AUR. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/Foxboron/ I am not talking about the PKGBUILD. I even asked the current maintainer to remove my name from the contributor in that file. The copyright violation is my SGE source code patch file. That is my original work. Best, Manhong Sent from phone

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[aur-general] SGE has copyright violation
by Manhong Dai 24 Oct '20

24 Oct '20

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 6:02 AM <notify(a)aur.archlinux.org> wrote: > Request #21898 has been rejected by Foxboron [1]: > > Not interested. The sge package is not going to point at your fork. > > [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/Foxboron/ Thanks a lot for the reply! But I never ask the current maintainer to point to my fork. I guess those markdown syntax messed it up. This package is in clear text-book copyright violation right now! The current maintainer is using my original SGE source code patch file without mentioning I am the patch's author and University of Michigan's copyright. Further, he split it into many patch files, now those modifications look to be his contribution as nobody will dig into git history, not to mention patching with many files is the worst way to promote a software. I believe I am the first one in the world who made SGE work under the latest SSL and GLIBC. I created the single source code patch file, and initially put it on AUR sge. I also tried to settle with the current maintainer, I proposed that he can keep the package but he has to use my single patch file with the copyright and author on the top, then remove my name from the PKGBUILD file. He rejected me. Now here are all the facts, could you please reconsider it again? 1, I am the original author of the SGE source code patch file, I put my source code patch file on AUR sge. 2. I didn't receive any email notification before the package was taken over, This is confirmed by a TU 3, I didn't join AUR-general before the package was taken over, and the same TU confirmed that this is not required. 4, I tried to settle with the current maintainer, and asked him to respect Copyright and original author, he rejected me. 5, The current maintainer's PKGBUILD doesn't work, and he 'git push' three times anyway, while knowing it fails. It took him 7 days to fix a 'cd' error. Everything above are true facts, and it can be verified in court, and I am willing to take any penalty if they are not fact. Now, the simple question is, can any original work put on AUR be taken away like this? Best, Manhong

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Re: [aur-general] SGE Orphaning
by Amin Vakil 20 Oct '20

20 Oct '20

I remember you have said that you use this package on your servers in university, so why don't you just create a new package with any modifications you need in PKGBUILD and even make it specified for your needs if you want to and use it for yourself? What are you trying to accomplish with being called "maintainer" of sge package? You can post your PKGBUILD on github/gitlab or any other git service online to track the modifications, being able to download it from anywhere, ask for other people's opinion, etc.

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[aur-general] Away for a bit due to covid related limitations
by Andrzej Giniewicz 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

Hi all, I have to declare away time, for the first time since I've started TU duties. Unfortunately I'm stuck with my work computer for now (Windows only) and my Arch dev box is at another physical address - which I have limited access due to the epidemic situation in Poland right now. I've seen few out of date notifications for my community packages, but I cannot update them right now, so if someone could update them in my place for now it would be great. I hope to be back to maintaining my packages soon. I cannot sign this message either unfortunately. Cheers and stay healthy everybody, Andrzej Giniewicz (https://www.archlinux.org/people/trusted-users/#aginiewicz)

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[aur-general] SGE Orphaning
by Manhong Dai 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

Dear Trust User, I submitted an Orphaning request in both comment area and ticket system. Feel free to let me know if there is anything I need to do to follow up. My email address is daimh(a)umich.edu , just in case I missed any emails. Best, Manhong

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Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 5
by michael＠eowyn.net 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

> Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:47:51 -0400 > From: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Subject: Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4 > Message-ID: <2972ceb5928384111909983ea92ddc4f6322b616.camel(a)umich.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Alexis, > > Thanks a lot for the contructive feedback! > > I didn't receive your email actually! I found your reply in > the digest. > > It might be our UMich.edu Gmail or AUR-general email server > right now. But this sge drama was not caused by the email issue. It is > caused by that I have an account in AUR, but didn't register the AUR- > general, and I didn't even know it exists until a few days ago. > > I agree that "It seems that in the last times you didn't take > enough care of the sge package". The thing is My PKGBUILD just works > without any glitch on dozens of SGE nodes since day one. It includes > those C code modification I did in the past decade to make it work with > CentOS, Debian and the latest GCC/SSL in current Arch Linux. Further, I > don't have much free time to maintain a PKGBUILD file or read the AUR > wiki, just like many other AUR package maintainers. > > Thanks a lot for the suggestion though, I will host my C code > modification with some upcoming accumulated improvement on github, as > github won't make me lose the package in a period of just two months > ending with two 19-minute apart email notifications. > > Here is my suggestions to AUR though. > > 1, It seems that many PKGBUILD issues can be solved by a script. For > example, the PKGVER mistake that the current maintainer of SGE package > made and user a821 commented "The pkgver used to be 20200527 but now is > 8.1.9. However 20200527 > 8.1.9 so epoch=1 might be > required."?https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/sge/ > > Although I won't believe one who 'couldn't even get something as simple > as the pkgver right' cannot make a good AUR package because 'good' is > very subjective and definitely not limited to a PKGBUILD file, AUR > should have a script running from time to time to check such simple > mistakes and notify the maintainer. I actually believe that you already > have such thing because some comments on my other AUR packages are very > professional and like robot :). Or a command to check some common > mistakes in a PKGBUILD file? > > > 2, Force an AUR package maintainer to join AUR-general, or send every > notification to the package maintainer, as I never received any email > notification about orphaning SGE. > > Thanks your very much for your constructive feedback again! > > Best, > Manhong > > On Tue, 2020-10-13 at 12:00 +0000, aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org > wrote: >> Send aur-general mailing list submissions to >> %3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3Faur-general(a)archlinux.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> ????????https://lists.archlinux.org/listinfo/aur-general >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> %3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3Faur-general-request(a)archlinux.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> %3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3Faur-general-owner(a)archlinux.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of aur-general digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> ?? 1. Re: Reply to your request SGE (Manhong Dai) >> ?? 2. Re: Reply to your request SGE (Doug Newgard) >> ?? 3. Re: Reply to your request SGE (Alexis BRENON) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:57:52 -0400 >> From: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> >> To: Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> >> Cc: Manhong Dai via aur-general <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> >> Subject: Re: [aur-general] Reply to your request SGE >> Message-ID: >> ????????<CAAwO%2BoOcWq0OXvhuAaoayHqfAa7v5egUi3HjA50_xLGKV8gt1A(a)mail.gmail.com >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> You are right that I don't know what 'out of state' or 'out of date' >> or >> 'out of whatever' is. All I know is that I suddenly lost the >> ownership and >> will have to change my cluster maintenance code tomorrow..... >> >> In terms of pkgver or pkgbuild.? Now you said nobody cares about >> pigver, >> guess who said this sentence below? >> 'You couldn't even get something as simple as the pkgver right' >> >> ? It turned out I can read and actually remember.... >> >> >> Best, >> Manhong >> Sent from phone >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 10:46 PM Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:38:02 -0400 >> > Manhong Dai via aur-general <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> > >> > > I actually did read your email. You said I cannot get a simple >> > > thing such >> > > as pkgver right. >> > > >> > > Let me explain to you, from your point of view, you certainly >> > > want to >> > have >> > > some rule or guideline to make all the package? has the same >> > > standard. >> > That >> > > is understandable and it is what make Arch Linux popular. I would >> > > love to >> > > be compliant with the rule whenever I have the resource, and I >> > > did with >> > all >> > > other my AUR packages. >> > > >> > > From my point of view, a pkgver is not the point here. I do need >> > > to make >> > my >> > > modified SGE package can be compiled with the latest SSL, GCC, >> > > other >> > Linux >> > > contribution, and can be used to upgrade an old node without >> > > losing >> > > configuration. No matter how bad a pkgver is defined, an Arch >> > > Linux with >> > a >> > > working SGE is away better, right? >> > > >> > > The problem is actually not on my side. Your request system has >> > > my email >> > > address, I sent you a request after the package was adopted, some >> > > bystanders figured? out I didn't get any reply and sent your >> > > reply to me, >> > > That is when I knew that the request is also in the mail list, >> > > and such >> > > email list exists...... >> > > >> > > Because you are attacking my capability, and I believe everybody >> > > who can >> > > read will know your claim is actually baseless, I did ignore your >> > personal >> > > attack in my previous email. >> > > >> > > Yes, I can say sorry about ignoring hat. >> > > >> > > >> > > Best, >> > > Manhong >> > > Sent from phone >> > > >> > >> > So you read it and you're STILL top posting in violation of the >> > rules. And >> > making up something called "out of state" which doesn't exist. And >> > claiming >> > that you have to be on a mailing list when it's been explained, >> > multiple >> > times, >> > that you don't. You claim you're reading, now try understanding. >> > >> > Nobody cares what your point of view is on pkgver. It's obvious to >> > pretty >> > much >> > anyone that's ever written, or even read, a PKGBUILD. >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:02:24 -0500 >> From: Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> >> To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org >> Subject: Re: [aur-general] Reply to your request SGE >> Message-ID: <20201012220224.44a4878b@Scimmia> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:57:52 -0400 >> Manhong Dai via aur-general <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> wrote: >> >> > You are right that I don't know what 'out of state' or 'out of >> > date' or >> > 'out of whatever' is. All I know is that I suddenly lost the >> > ownership and >> > will have to change my cluster maintenance code tomorrow..... >> > >> > In terms of pkgver or pkgbuild.? Now you said nobody cares about >> > pigver, >> > guess who said this sentence below? >> > 'You couldn't even get something as simple as the pkgver right' >> > >> > ? It turned out I can read and actually remember.... >> >> Then try reading again, as that's not what I said at all. You either >> have a >> serious issue with reading comprehension or you're just making things >> up now. >> >> And you're STILL violating the rules of just about every mailing list >> out >> there, even after being told twice. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:02:08 +0200 >> From: Alexis BRENON <brenon.alexis%2Barch(a)gmail.com> >> To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" >> ????????<aur-general(a)archlinux.org> >> Cc: Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> >> Subject: Re: [aur-general] Reply to your request SGE >> Message-ID: >> ????????<CAJPB9o2UNiGi0ox3t-faNbXeme9ekNo%2BC0rtDJexL-9RZyfsUg(a)mail.gmail.com >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> > Then try reading again, as that's not what I said at all. You >> > either have a >> > serious issue with reading comprehension or you're just making >> > things up now. >> > >> > And you're STILL violating the rules of just about every mailing >> > list out >> > there, even after being told twice. >> >> Just to try to calm down the conversation. >> >> Manhong, you say that this is your package, however, AUR is not the >> right place to host "your own" package, it is a place to host the >> community's packages. >> Actually, there is a dedicated maintainer who takes care of a >> package, >> and it seems that in the last times you didn't take enough care of >> the >> sge package (there is a set of rules to follow that make you a good >> care-taker: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_package_guidelines) >> so you aren't the maintainer anymore. This seems fair. >> >> You complain about not being notified before you lost the >> maintainership. The maintainer always receives e-mail notifications >> to >> its personal e-mail address. You are the only one who does not >> receive >> it, maybe there is a problem on your side... >> >> In any case, there are some rules. They have been followed. And >> nobody >> can give you back the maintainership. You can ask to become a >> co-maintainer which sounds good, you do not have to bear all the >> burden alone! >> >> If you want to host "your own" package, following your own rules for >> the PKGBUILD format, and don't bothering with the community's rules, >> feel free to host your own AUR service on your cluster. >> >> Kind regards, >> Alexis >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aur-general mailing list >> aur-general(a)archlinux.org >> https://lists.archlinux.org/listinfo/aur-general >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4 >> ******************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:58:35 +0400 > From: Archange <archange(a)archlinux.org> > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Cc: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4 > Message-ID: <6eb8705a-b0e0-ce6c-d678-af930082ceb2(a)archlinux.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi, > > Le 14/10/2020 ? 18:47, Manhong Dai via aur-general a ?crit?: >> 2, Force an AUR package maintainer to join AUR-general, or send every >> notification to the package maintainer, as I never received any email >> notification about orphaning SGE. > > I?m not commenting on everything else here, but regarding this point: > subscription to aur-general is not required, and every notifications > are > sent to the package maintainer? or at least should be, because a bug > introduced some months ago broke that (see > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/aurweb/-/merge_requests/6) > > So indeed you did not receive the Orphaning requests notifications. But > you did receive comments on the AUR page, and you did receive the > emails > to which you responded and that told you to *stop top-posting*. > > Regards, > Bruno/Archange > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:16:54 -0400 > From: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> > To: Archange <archange(a)archlinux.org>, "Discussion about the Arch User > Repository (AUR)" <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: [aur-general] SGE > Message-ID: <259c09da06d5caf05708ae2bb765daf023eaa44b.camel(a)umich.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Bruno, > > Thanks a lot for confirming that I didn't receive Orphaning > email!? > > I did receive the comment. I actually checked the pull request > a little, but decided not to reply because I didn't want to be > negative. I totally believe the current maintainer has a better format > of PKGBUILD (well, except his pkgver mistake). Now let me comment a few > things on SGE. > > In the SGE package comment. > > 1, The current maintainer blamed me "?pkgver???????????????". Google > translation: "It?s really intolerable that even pkgver was filled in > wrong."? > > Now it turned out that the current maintainer made the mistake..... > > 2, He also said "??.install?post install??????????????????", Google > translation "A lot of files that the package manager did not take over > were installed in the post install stage through .install". > > This could be a disaster if somebody want to upgrade SGE by uninstall > and re-install. SGE has been a very special software because it needs > some post installation to let user specify a lot of host/jobs/queue > configuration. Thus all files are put under /opt/sge for the legacy > reason. > > > Best, > Manhong > > > > > On Wed, 2020-10-14 at 18:58 +0400, Archange wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Le 14/10/2020 ? 18:47, Manhong Dai via aur-general a ?crit?: >> > 2, Force an AUR package maintainer to join AUR-general, or send >> > every >> > notification to the package maintainer, as I never received any >> > email >> > notification about orphaning SGE. >> >> I?m not commenting on everything else here, but regarding this point: >> subscription to aur-general is not required, and every notifications >> are >> sent to the package maintainer? or at least should be, because a bug >> introduced some months ago broke that (see >> https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/aurweb/-/merge_requests/6) >> >> So indeed you did not receive the Orphaning requests notifications. >> But >> you did receive comments on the AUR page, and you did receive the >> emails >> to which you responded and that told you to *stop top-posting*. >> >> Regards, >> Bruno/Archange > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:19:05 -0400 > From: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> > To: Sauyon Lee <s(a)uyon.co>, "Discussion about the Arch User Repository > (AUR)" <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] SGE > Message-ID: <b337ab689ecdb27cd16c01ad51c39626f1519058.camel(a)umich.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi Sauyon, > > Thank you! I learned! > > Best, > Manhong > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:03:26 +0200 > From: alad <alad(a)archlinux.org> > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Subject: Re: [aur-general] SGE > Message-ID: <683dd11c-f5f1-f0a6-8f97-acde1c8e82b3(a)archlinux.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 14/10/2020 17:16, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote: >> Hi Bruno, > > Top-posting, do you know what it means? > > Do not do this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting > > But do this: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style or > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting > > Again https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct#Top_posting > > Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you keep doing this even > after being asked not to, repeatedly. > > Alad > >> >> Thanks a lot for confirming that I didn't receive Orphaning >> email! >> >> I did receive the comment. I actually checked the pull request >> a little, but decided not to reply because I didn't want to be >> negative. I totally believe the current maintainer has a better format >> of PKGBUILD (well, except his pkgver mistake). Now let me comment a >> few >> things on SGE. >> >> In the SGE package comment. >> >> 1, The current maintainer blamed me "?pkgver???????????????". Google >> translation: "It?s really intolerable that even pkgver was filled in >> wrong." >> >> Now it turned out that the current maintainer made the mistake..... >> >> 2, He also said "??.install?post install??????????????????", Google >> translation "A lot of files that the package manager did not take over >> were installed in the post install stage through .install". >> >> This could be a disaster if somebody want to upgrade SGE by >> uninstall >> and re-install. SGE has been a very special software because it needs >> some post installation to let user specify a lot of host/jobs/queue >> configuration. Thus all files are put under /opt/sge for the legacy >> reason. >> >> >> Best, >> Manhong >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 2020-10-14 at 18:58 +0400, Archange wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Le 14/10/2020 ? 18:47, Manhong Dai via aur-general a ?crit?: >>>> 2, Force an AUR package maintainer to join AUR-general, or send >>>> every >>>> notification to the package maintainer, as I never received any >>>> email >>>> notification about orphaning SGE. >>> I?m not commenting on everything else here, but regarding this point: >>> subscription to aur-general is not required, and every notifications >>> are >>> sent to the package maintainer? or at least should be, because a bug >>> introduced some months ago broke that (see >>> https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/aurweb/-/merge_requests/6) >>> >>> So indeed you did not receive the Orphaning requests notifications. >>> But >>> you did receive comments on the AUR page, and you did receive the >>> emails >>> to which you responded and that told you to *stop top-posting*. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bruno/Archange > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > aur-general mailing list > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > https://lists.archlinux.org/listinfo/aur-general > > > ------------------------------ > > End of aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 5 > ******************************************* > It seems that many PKGBUILD issues can be solved by a script. This sounds a lot like namcap.

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Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4
by Manhong Dai 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

Hi Alexis, Thanks a lot for the contructive feedback! I didn't receive your email actually! I found your reply in the digest. It might be our UMich.edu Gmail or AUR-general email server right now. But this sge drama was not caused by the email issue. It is caused by that I have an account in AUR, but didn't register the AUR- general, and I didn't even know it exists until a few days ago. I agree that "It seems that in the last times you didn't take enough care of the sge package". The thing is My PKGBUILD just works without any glitch on dozens of SGE nodes since day one. It includes those C code modification I did in the past decade to make it work with CentOS, Debian and the latest GCC/SSL in current Arch Linux. Further, I don't have much free time to maintain a PKGBUILD file or read the AUR wiki, just like many other AUR package maintainers. Thanks a lot for the suggestion though, I will host my C code modification with some upcoming accumulated improvement on github, as github won't make me lose the package in a period of just two months ending with two 19-minute apart email notifications. Here is my suggestions to AUR though. 1, It seems that many PKGBUILD issues can be solved by a script. For example, the PKGVER mistake that the current maintainer of SGE package made and user a821 commented "The pkgver used to be 20200527 but now is 8.1.9. However 20200527 > 8.1.9 so epoch=1 might be required." https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/sge/ Although I won't believe one who 'couldn't even get something as simple as the pkgver right' cannot make a good AUR package because 'good' is very subjective and definitely not limited to a PKGBUILD file, AUR should have a script running from time to time to check such simple mistakes and notify the maintainer. I actually believe that you already have such thing because some comments on my other AUR packages are very professional and like robot :). Or a command to check some common mistakes in a PKGBUILD file? 2, Force an AUR package maintainer to join AUR-general, or send every notification to the package maintainer, as I never received any email notification about orphaning SGE. Thanks your very much for your constructive feedback again! Best, Manhong On Tue, 2020-10-13 at 12:00 +0000, aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org wrote: > Send aur-general mailing list submissions to > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.archlinux.org/listinfo/aur-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aur-general-owner(a)archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aur-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Reply to your request SGE (Manhong Dai) > 2. Re: Reply to your request SGE (Doug Newgard) > 3. Re: Reply to your request SGE (Alexis BRENON) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:57:52 -0400 > From: Manhong Dai <daimh(a)umich.edu> > To: Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> > Cc: Manhong Dai via aur-general <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Reply to your request SGE > Message-ID: > <CAAwO%2BoOcWq0OXvhuAaoayHqfAa7v5egUi3HjA50_xLGKV8gt1A(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You are right that I don't know what 'out of state' or 'out of date' > or > 'out of whatever' is. All I know is that I suddenly lost the > ownership and > will have to change my cluster maintenance code tomorrow..... > > In terms of pkgver or pkgbuild. Now you said nobody cares about > pigver, > guess who said this sentence below? > 'You couldn't even get something as simple as the pkgver right' > > It turned out I can read and actually remember.... > > > Best, > Manhong > Sent from phone > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 10:46 PM Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:38:02 -0400 > > Manhong Dai via aur-general <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > > > > I actually did read your email. You said I cannot get a simple > > > thing such > > > as pkgver right. > > > > > > Let me explain to you, from your point of view, you certainly > > > want to > > have > > > some rule or guideline to make all the package has the same > > > standard. > > That > > > is understandable and it is what make Arch Linux popular. I would > > > love to > > > be compliant with the rule whenever I have the resource, and I > > > did with > > all > > > other my AUR packages. > > > > > > From my point of view, a pkgver is not the point here. I do need > > > to make > > my > > > modified SGE package can be compiled with the latest SSL, GCC, > > > other > > Linux > > > contribution, and can be used to upgrade an old node without > > > losing > > > configuration. No matter how bad a pkgver is defined, an Arch > > > Linux with > > a > > > working SGE is away better, right? > > > > > > The problem is actually not on my side. Your request system has > > > my email > > > address, I sent you a request after the package was adopted, some > > > bystanders figured out I didn't get any reply and sent your > > > reply to me, > > > That is when I knew that the request is also in the mail list, > > > and such > > > email list exists...... > > > > > > Because you are attacking my capability, and I believe everybody > > > who can > > > read will know your claim is actually baseless, I did ignore your > > personal > > > attack in my previous email. > > > > > > Yes, I can say sorry about ignoring hat. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > Manhong > > > Sent from phone > > > > > > > So you read it and you're STILL top posting in violation of the > > rules. And > > making up something called "out of state" which doesn't exist. And > > claiming > > that you have to be on a mailing list when it's been explained, > > multiple > > times, > > that you don't. You claim you're reading, now try understanding. > > > > Nobody cares what your point of view is on pkgver. It's obvious to > > pretty > > much > > anyone that's ever written, or even read, a PKGBUILD. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:02:24 -0500 > From: Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Reply to your request SGE > Message-ID: <20201012220224.44a4878b@Scimmia> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:57:52 -0400 > Manhong Dai via aur-general <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > > You are right that I don't know what 'out of state' or 'out of > > date' or > > 'out of whatever' is. All I know is that I suddenly lost the > > ownership and > > will have to change my cluster maintenance code tomorrow..... > > > > In terms of pkgver or pkgbuild. Now you said nobody cares about > > pigver, > > guess who said this sentence below? > > 'You couldn't even get something as simple as the pkgver right' > > > > It turned out I can read and actually remember.... > > Then try reading again, as that's not what I said at all. You either > have a > serious issue with reading comprehension or you're just making things > up now. > > And you're STILL violating the rules of just about every mailing list > out > there, even after being told twice. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:02:08 +0200 > From: Alexis BRENON <brenon.alexis%2Barch(a)gmail.com> > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Cc: Doug Newgard <scimmia(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Reply to your request SGE > Message-ID: > <CAJPB9o2UNiGi0ox3t-faNbXeme9ekNo%2BC0rtDJexL-9RZyfsUg(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Then try reading again, as that's not what I said at all. You > > either have a > > serious issue with reading comprehension or you're just making > > things up now. > > > > And you're STILL violating the rules of just about every mailing > > list out > > there, even after being told twice. > > Just to try to calm down the conversation. > > Manhong, you say that this is your package, however, AUR is not the > right place to host "your own" package, it is a place to host the > community's packages. > Actually, there is a dedicated maintainer who takes care of a > package, > and it seems that in the last times you didn't take enough care of > the > sge package (there is a set of rules to follow that make you a good > care-taker: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_package_guidelines) > so you aren't the maintainer anymore. This seems fair. > > You complain about not being notified before you lost the > maintainership. The maintainer always receives e-mail notifications > to > its personal e-mail address. You are the only one who does not > receive > it, maybe there is a problem on your side... > > In any case, there are some rules. They have been followed. And > nobody > can give you back the maintainership. You can ask to become a > co-maintainer which sounds good, you do not have to bear all the > burden alone! > > If you want to host "your own" package, following your own rules for > the PKGBUILD format, and don't bothering with the community's rules, > feel free to host your own AUR service on your cluster. > > Kind regards, > Alexis > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > aur-general mailing list > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > https://lists.archlinux.org/listinfo/aur-general > > > ------------------------------ > > End of aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4 > *******************************************

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Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 192, Issue 5
by Manhong Dai 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

> Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:03:26 +0200 > From: alad <alad(a)archlinux.org> > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Subject: Re: [aur-general] SGE > Message-ID: <683dd11c-f5f1-f0a6-8f97-acde1c8e82b3(a)archlinux.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 14/10/2020 17:16, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > > Top-posting, do you know what it means? > > Do not do this: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting > > But do this: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style or > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting > > Again > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct#Top_posting > > Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you keep doing this even > after being asked not to, repeatedly. Appreciate it, Alad! I learned! Best, Manhong

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Re: [aur-general] SGE
by Manhong Dai 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

Hi Sauyon, Thank you! I learned! Best, Manhong

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[aur-general] Reply to your request SGE
by Manhong Dai 13 Oct '20

13 Oct '20

Hi Freswa, Somebody pointed me to your reply in the list. I didn't even know that the request in the AUR request system was sent to this email list, nor I know such an email list existed. I agree that you think you already gave enough explanation from your point of view. However, please think about it in my shoes, I I didn't even know such an email list existed before I sent the last request through the AUR website, and I just registered it about an hour ago to appeal. If you think I spammed this request system, I am sorry for it. But from my point of view, I have been extremely patient and following the ladder to appeal, because I didn't get any email or any response on the AUR website, which just says one word 'rejected'. I am also a very responsive package maintainer. You can check out my other packages, as long as other people submitted a suggestion, I responded the second day, and accepted their suggestions. In terms of the package SGE, I just searched my email again but didn't find any email saying that the package is marked as out-of-date. It will be hard to believe that a package that was submitted just four months ago is already marked as out of date. It worked on a cluster of all our Arch Linux nodes four months ago, and it is still working on the latest Arch Linux. It worked on both new node installation and old node upgrade . I would never have thought to check the AUR website to see if I am still a maintainer. All I got was the two emails, one saying it was disowned, the other saying it was adopted, and they are 19 minutes apart. Now I understand that each AUR package maintainer should join the email list and keep watching it. Given this special circumstance, can I get the maintainer status for the package SGE back? Best, Manhong

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[aur-general] This Saturday I was deprived the maintainer status of AUR package SGE without reason
by Manhong Dai 12 Oct '20

12 Oct '20

Dear AUR administrator, Can you please change me back to the maintainer of the AUR package SGE? This saturday I got two emails. One is user "freswa" disowned this package, and then 19 minutes later, another email said this package was adopted. When I got the two emails, it was already too late to adopt the package back. I did submit a request at the AUR web interface later, but the request was denied without any explanation. I am an SGE administrator for University of Michigan, and I have been maintaining the legacy SGE C code for many years to make it work with the latest library changes and the newer version of GCC. I published my code modification to AUR to help other Arch Linux user, and also help myself to maintain our own SGE cluster, which runs on both CentOS and Arch Linux. I really don't know why I was deprived of the maintainer status because I am a very responsive AUR maintainer. For example, I received some good suggestions about my other packages, I did accept those suggestions and modified my packages accordingly. The serious issue is I didn't receive any notification about the package sge before the two email notifications. It is quite scary for me, and should be scary for all AUR package maintainers. Is there anything I can do to get the maintainer status back? Best, Manhong

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[aur-general] Wrong E-Mail Adress at registration used
by Matthias 'garionion' Detsch 10 Oct '20

10 Oct '20

Hi there, sorry to bother you with my stupid mistake. As I wanted to register myself for the AUR a while ago, I misspelled my E-Mail Adress. But I really really want to use my "normal" nickname. As I used a wron E-Mail, I never got a confirmation mail, but the username is still "reserved" (one could consider this as a bug), so I cannot register myself again, with "my" username and the correct EMail Adress. Would it be possible, that someone could please unlock "my" username? Best Regards, garionion

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[aur-general] Package that need external inclusions
by Franck STAUFFER 29 Sep '20

29 Sep '20

Hello, I am trying to update solarus-quest-editor[1] but it needs some files that comes from another package[2][3]. How can I make it works? Should I download the needed files in the $srcdir? Franck STAUFFER [1]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/solarus-quest-editor/ [2]: https://gitlab.com/solarus-games/solarus-quest-editor#configure/ [3]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/solarus/

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[aur-general] Looking for a TU to get gamemode into community repo
by Minze Zwerver 22 Sep '20

22 Sep '20

Hello, I am the current maintainer of the gamemode AUR, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gamemode/ ,and I would like to submit it for the community repository. Currently it has libinih among its dependencies which is also in AUR, however it can be removed if so needed because meson will then fetch it and use a static variant of the library. Thank you for your time, Minze/Ysblokje

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[aur-general] Package clonable via git but not on the web interface?
by Ian Denhardt 21 Sep '20

21 Sep '20

Hi, I recently went looking for a package for [entr][1], didn't find one, and so put together a PKGBUILD myself. When I went to submit it I found the git repo already exists; if you do: git clone ssh://aur@aur.archlinux.org/entr You get a non-empty repo that was last updated sometime in 2018, and packages version 4.1 of the software. I can't push to the repo since it already exists and I am not the maintainer, but there is no corresponding package available via the web interface: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/entr I am not sure what to make of this. Any insights? -Ian [1]: http://eradman.com/entrproject/

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[aur-general] Lost user/pass on AUR site
by Fábio Emilio Costa 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Lost my password and user on AUR site. It was recommended to get help here... Anything I need to provide? I think I used this email to create it.

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[aur-general] TU application - raster
by Carsten Haitzler 14 Sep '20

14 Sep '20

Hi Everyone. I'm Carsten - or Raster. Sponsors: eschwartz and shibumi agreed to +1 me I'm upstream founder of enlightenment, EFL, terminology and a few other things. I work at Arm in Cambridge, UK (and live here). I've been involved in OSS and releasing software since like 1995/96 or so for Linux (And other Unixen at the time). I've worked on several distributions - RedHat, Debian (made custom variant, not upstream) and Tizen. I pretty much eat, breathe and sleep C, and of course that comes with the requisite "I can drive a shell script off a cliff gracefully" developer skill-set. Linux is my OS. I don't dual boot. All my machines are Linux machines without booting into anything else and that's been the way for me for me since I got my first PC in 1996 after I had to give up on the Amiga. This PC then ran just Linux and nothing else (never saw a DOS or Windows install). In fact all but 2 of my machines are Arch Linux (Rockpro64 dev board (debian SID) and my Ampere Emag aarch64 workstation (Ubuntu), my pinephone has Manjaro for now which is kind-of-close to Arch...). I already maintain the AUR packages for efl-git, enlightenment-git, rage-git, efl-git-asan, enlightenment-git-asan and have for a long while now (also co-maintain terminology-git). You can see that I'm responsive to issues people bring up and fix them pretty fast. I have done some edits to the arch wiki as well over time. I will admit - I haven't really touched the Arch forums... I'm really an IRC/Email person, but I am on #archlinux, #archlinux-offtopic (and #archlinux-arm) most of the time. I've been using arch as my primary/only distro now for maybe about 4-5 years. I like its simplicity and "don't patch/modify things from upstream unless absolutely needed" policy (as an upstream I smile warmly at this direction). It's very developer friendly... and that's who I am. I also run ALARM on my Rapsberry Pis. I do spend most of my effort on the upstream work on these E related projects as those are what I write, release, add features to and fix bugs in. I'm about as googlable as it gets: raster(a)rasterman.com http://www.rasterman.com I know that there are a lot of packages to maintain for a very small number of people, so I'm happy to help out. I'd be best at taking over or being co-maintainer of: * efl * enlightenment * terminology Other packages I can add to community: * rage (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rage - i maintain rage-git already) * evisum (https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2020-06-07-evisum-05-release) And in future any others that I think are past the bar of "worth including in Arch community rather than AUR" over time (there are ones brewing or lurking like EDI https://www.enlightenment.org/about-edi, Ephoto https://www.enlightenment.org/about-ephoto, Enventor https://www.enlightenment.org/about-enventor) I'd also be happy to help maintain packages I know I depend on and work with that might be a bit niche like: * packagekit * ddcutil And in general just help attack anything that I know enough about to be a bit better than a bowl of dried up custard at that is in my general sphere of knowledge/use. My PGP key hash: 04F7A0E31E08D3E08D39AFEBD147F94364295E8C http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD147F94364295E8C Looking forward to pitching in and making Arch better :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - raster(a)rasterman.com

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[aur-general] Deletion of sxiv-cdown-git
by Chris Down 14 Sep '20

14 Sep '20

Hi there, It seems this morning sxiv-cdown-git was deleted. It exists as a (small) fork from sxiv with features geared towards using it as a photo manager which Bert has indicated are different from his goals in mainline, not merely a set of config options or whatever. I assume Eli deleted it because he thought it's a one-person package, but it has multiple users. I assume it was removed on this basis due to the name: > Make sure the package you want to upload is useful. Will anyone else want to > use this package? Is it extremely specialized? If more than a few people > would find this package useful, it is appropriate for submission. ...but it is acutually used by a number of people (I know, because I have others in my photography group who use it). Eli, on that basis, would you kindly consider restoring it? I'm happy to rename it sxiv-photomanager-git, or whatever else. I'm also a bit concerned about the predecent set for other packages which happen to bear my name, if that's the criteria for removal. For example, I have `systemd-cdown-git`, which is what I use when people report systemd problems to me and I write and ask them to try out some patches, so it's definitely used by more than a few people, albeit sporadically. Sure, I could just send PKGBUILDs and .install files around, but this seems reasonable to have on the AUR since it means I can just tell them the package to install, and things Just Work(tm). That strategy has been very successful in the past. If the naming is part of the rationale for removal, any suggestion for that one? Thanks, Chris

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