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[aur-general] kernel updates render package obsolete
by Mads Michelsen 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

I'm maintaining the module package fsaa1655g (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8281) a job I took over as the package had for all intents and purposes been abandoned. My problem is that every time the kernel is updated - even the smallest update - the package becomes obsolete. I'm pretty ignorant of these things but I suppose that is how things are for some (a lot? all?) non-kernel-modules. The particular problem with this module is that my laptop depends on it for wireless access (it turns on the wireless radio) and so when the kernel is upgraded and the module isn't immidiately upgraded with it, the laptop is restarted, the result is no wireless - which can make it hard to get the module upgraded for one thing. So I guess my questions are: 1) Is there some way around the module becoming outdated with each and every kernel update? and if not 2) For myself, I can just keep the source code on my drive and rebuild it whenever this happens - but is there some way of altering the PKGBUILD to do the same? 3) Any other way around the issue apart from quickly updating the package whenever there's a kernel upgrade? - Mads

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Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 49, Issue 25
by Abdul Halim 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Dkms will allow you to auto compile upon pc restart and kernel upgrade. But then again, Arch don't use dkms and I still quite new to know the history of why not to use dkms. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:00 AM, <aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Send aur-general mailing list submissions to > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aur-general-owner(a)archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aur-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. kernel updates render package obsolete (Mads Michelsen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:47:43 +0100 > From: Mads Michelsen <chochem(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [aur-general] kernel updates render package obsolete > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Message-ID: <20081117174743.17bb28a6(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I'm maintaining the module package fsaa1655g > (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8281) a job I took > over as the package had for all intents and purposes been abandoned. > > My problem is that every time the kernel is updated - even the smallest > update - the package becomes obsolete. I'm pretty ignorant of these > things but I suppose that is how things are for some (a lot? all?) > non-kernel-modules. The particular problem with this module is that > my laptop depends on it for wireless access (it turns on the wireless > radio) and so when the kernel is upgraded and the module isn't > immidiately upgraded with it, the laptop is restarted, the result is no > wireless - which can make it hard to get the module upgraded for one > thing. > > So I guess my questions are: > 1) Is there some way around the module becoming outdated with each and > every kernel update? and if not > 2) For myself, I can just keep the source code on my drive and rebuild > it whenever this happens - but is there some way of altering the > PKGBUILD to do the same? > 3) Any other way around the issue apart from > quickly updating the package whenever there's a kernel upgrade? > > - Mads > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > aur-general mailing list > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > > > End of aur-general Digest, Vol 49, Issue 25 > ******************************************* >

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[aur-general] Orphan request
by Sylvester Johansson 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Hello! I would like to request that the packages ocaml-findlib, ocaml-lablgl and ocaml-ounit to be orphaned. I tried to contact the maintainer, but got a mail delivery failure. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7238 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7228 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7239

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[aur-general] New Trusted User: Dan Griffiths (Ghost1227)
by Loui Chang 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

With twenty one votes for and zero against we have a new Trusted User. Congratulations on becoming a Trusted User Dan! I've changed your account on AUR. Please see this Checklist to get yourself setup: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_Trusted_User_Checklist

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[aur-general] Request for removing jap package in community repository in favor of jondo package in AUR
by Rorschach 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi, in the community-repository is a package called jap. This package has some disadvantages compaired with the jondo-package I created in AUR: * misnamend: The application jap, developed by AN.ON and TU Dresden is discontinued for nearly two years now but jondo was developed out of it. The java-archive still has the name JAP.jar but the application itself isn't called jap anymore but jondo so the package has the wrong name. In short the package in the community-repository is called jap but contains jondo (now developed still under BSD-licence by jondos.de) . * no man-page * no menu-entry * depends on prorpeitary jre-version although the free openjdk6-version works as well! Is it possible to remove jap in favor of jondo? Is this at all the right place to ask for this? greetings

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[aur-general] How to submit manpage, *.desktop-files and corresponging icon to AUR?
by Rorschach 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi, I took over the work on the orphaned package jondo (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17965) Because I already packaged jondo for debian and ubuntu I also want to package it for ArchLinux. Because upstream is just offering the JAP.jar I had to create the man-page, *.desktop file for the menu-entry and the corresponding image by myself. If I create the package on my system with makepkg everything seems to work fine. All files are installed correctly, everything works as it should,.. But the problem is if I upload the PKGBUILD to AUR just the PKGBUILD-File is uploaded but how do I get the other files uploaded to AUR? I've seen a lot of packages which had other files uploaded like patch-files and so on.. but how do I do it? I can't find anything in the AUR-webinterface about it. greetings

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[aur-general] vala package
by Michael Kanis 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

Hello, in AUR there is a package for the Vala compiler: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7203 It is version 0.3.5, whereas the current upstream version is 0.5.1. I flagged the package out-of-date, left a comment and tried to contact the maintainer via e-mail. However I got no response. The maintainer of the package, pizzapunk, seems to be a dev however, so I guess he's still active. Could you please update the package or, if not, disown it. I would like to adopt and update it. Regards Michael

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by Simo Leone 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:12:04PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi TU's, > > I would like to organize a TU meeting on IRC to discuss the results of the > pkgstats script and the direction for the [community] repo. I am probably > the person with the worst time zone issues so I am happy to take a very > late night time slot. I guess a weekend would be best to deal with the > multiple time zones. > So how are peoples availabilities (provide times/timezones): > 15/16 November > 22/23 November > 29/30 November > > It would be good if someone (who isn't me...) sets up a temporary wiki page > to handle this. > I'm not really a TU anymore, but would anyone mind if I sat in and said insightful things once in a while? I'll add myself to the wiki page in case it's alright ;) -S

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[aur-general] CVS problem?
by Abhishek Dasgupta 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

While trying to commit to CVS at 1541 UTC, I got this error: cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.archlinux.org(66.211.213.17):2401 failed: Connection refused -- Abhishek

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[aur-general] Packages in Community and votes.
by Loui Chang 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 07:20:22AM -0700, w9ya wrote: > I would like to remind everyone that the TU system was NOT originated solely > to be based on votes, in fact there was no voting until much more recently. > > Also, when the voting was added to the TU system the community and TUs were > SPECIFICALLY told that the voting system would NEVER be used to make > decisions about or demands concerning what any individual TU decided to add. > There WERE concerns that just this type of "accounting" would be used to > determine how or what a TU may do. ONLY the TUs themselves make these > decisions. It has ALWAYS been that way. > > BTW.... I am not sure why this happens every few months or so, but it is a > repeating thought that somehow the voting system is a milestone setter and > thereby an issue for the TUs. If there is something in the wiki or other > documentation that would suggest or even say as much IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. > > Guys, if this is not clear to you, a search of the older mails should yield > a wealth of information about this from previous outbursts concerning the > suggested requirments for TUs from the voting system results. This thread diverged from: [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results If you have packages in community with zero or one votes there is a problem. You are abusing the resources of community plain and simple. Your packages should definitely have one vote (yourself). If you can't even garner one other person to vote there's not much point in putting the package into community. You'll upload it to the server, it will cost diskspace and bandwidth as it propagates through the mirrors, and no one will use it. Of course votes are not an absolute indicator of usage, but they are somewhat accurate as pkgstats shows. This means we need to change the way community is managed so we can make more efficient use of our resources. I've created a wiki page to outline my ideas: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community Another point to consider is that gerolde (the Arch Linux server) is already being taxed to the point where it is becoming unstable. We can either try to do something to help the situation, or we can protect some maintainer's pride of having 100 unused packages in community.

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