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14 Nov '23

hi, thanks a lot for the answers. idk why i didn't get your email in the digest, so i will it mail like this... > Maybe instead of trying to delete everything which is unmaintained you > should start adopting it and then maintaining it? i was just trying to help cleanup AUR. didn't mean any harm. i wrote some script myself to help me do this. i do pick up packages that look like people use. > David, I believe they meant should orphaned old packages be deleted for > not being up to date and not actively maintained, if so see above. > > If I am wrong, feel free to correct me Zoorat. see my answer: https://lists.archlinux.org/hyperkitty/list/aur-general@lists.archlinux.org… > In general, a lot of people prefer diff in comments (I believe this is > discouraged by package maintainers, but I can't fully remember) or > emailing a patch. This means that there is no privacy concerns. sure, i will do this then > As a general note, "glibc" does not need to be specified as a > dependency as it is within the "base" package, and thus installed on > system, it doesn't hurt to specify it however. i added that because of namcap. > I only briefly looked through each of the packages, this is in no way > an indepth analysis, it already took me a good hour to look though each > one above, I suggesting specifying specific ones you want checked > indepth instead of the long process of checking each one. thanks a lot. i will fix up everything as soon as possible. > I will be brutally honest here (please do not take anything I say as a > personal insult), although I am a regular user, I will explain how this > works (You could also read: sorry, i wasn't trying to be an asshole who just wants the title to show off. i added those numbers not to flex but to help determine. but as i read my own email now, it's looks stupid. please let me explain for the full context, my first contribution to AUR was a deletion req because the package i was trying to install was broken and thought it would be a good idea to report this to maintainers. googled about it and saw people talking about deletion request. after that i, found some other broken packages and reported them. it was the time of covid, so i had a lot of time on hand, thus i started to seek broken packages. i tested them and commented/mailed them to fix or reported them for deletion. at that time i started to maintain some packages too. i wanted to be a TU because i thought i could help test and validate other people's deletion requests. as my req would take quite a while, i thought i could be useful. nothing else. after reporting 500+ `ros-jade-*` broken packages, @ainola mailed me to thank me for the help. and i asked him about being a TU. he said my account was young at that time and to keep helping them... the last email was just to get know about my state... sorry for my english. > Maintaining a few packages isn't generally enough, have you submitted > bugs? have you tried joining the Arch Testing Team and testing packages > and submitting issues, or even patches to the packages to fix them? i have reported bug before in bugzilla and joining the test team sounds fun :) > Your account might not be young, but you have disappeared for a year... > you can't just leave for a few years pop back and say "look my account > is old now". Every package maintainer put ridiculous amounts of time > into their role before they were even considered. i wasn't active on the mailing list or irc but i was maintaining my packages. i didn't mean to disrespect any maintainer here. > But say you got outstanding activity, do you have the skill? Have you > showed the ability to package pragmatically? Most of your packages are > very straight forward and easy to follow the guidelines, but this is > not always the case. this is the reason i wasn't very interested in maintaining packages at first... and i don't adopt complex c/c++ based packages for this reason but started to get out of my comfort zone nowadays > Its very childish to say, "hey I maintain a few packages, and my > account is older now, can I have a job", something I learnt to ask > myself is "Why should I be picked?", and yes when I ask myself that in > the context of becoming a package maintainer its "hell no". i didn't mean to disrespect any maintainer here. i just wanted to help test the deletion requests of other people. nothing else. > In other words, stop trying so hard to become a package maintainer, and > focus on actually contributing, the rest comes later. sure. it's not like i will just stop contributing here because i see myself being a maintainer. i wanna help with the open source project i use, that's why i contribute in AUR. > Anyways, I have wrote a lot, and I have spent way too many hours doing > so, but I hope there is at least some usual information here for you :) i'm really really grateful for your answers. helped me a lot. have a nice day. p.s. english is not my first language. ask me anything if it confuses you. -- yours zoorat, PGP: 00000586360F8791A5492251129802DDA8074345 GITHUB: https://github.com/z00rat

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attention needed about 'acmt-*'
by zoorat 14 Nov '23

14 Nov '23

hi, i stumble upon 28 packages with the name 'acmt*' link: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?O=0&SeB=nd&K=acmt all of those packages, - doesn't have `checksum=` - doesn't have `source=` - sources inside `prepare()` like `_archive="`xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD`/acm-plugins-*.tar.gz"` - are orphan - 0 votes, 0 popularity - no download instruction tried to build some of them, but they had some .so files. i'm not sure if it's allowed to have packages like this. if you have time, look into it. have a nice day. -- yours zoorat, PGP: 00000586360F8791A5492251129802DDA8074345 GITHUB: https://github.com/z00rat

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Re: got a laptop
by zoorat 13 Nov '23

13 Nov '23

sure, i will do that if it works already picked up some pkgs like that :) and what if its broken ?? On 11/13/23 10:32, aur(a)nullvoid.me wrote: > I feel most users just want it to work, instead of maintaining it properly. So if you see out of date packages over 2-3 year that still "work" why not try to adopt them, instead of deleting them. -- yours zoorat, PGP: 00000586360F8791A5492251129802DDA8074345 GITHUB: https://github.com/z00rat

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Re: got a laptop
by zoorat 13 Nov '23

13 Nov '23

hi, thanks for the answer. but i think i asked the question in the wrong way. when i was testing out-of-date packages there were some with out-of-date flag before 2020 but those works i was meaning to ask, **how long does the package have to be out of sync with the main source ??** also i found some pkgs with depreciated `git://` but those works after modding it with `git+https://`. i generally report them if and only if they are orphans. On 11/13/23 04:51, aur-general-request(a)lists.archlinux.org wrote: > "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)gmail.com> writes: > >>> 2. should AUR host out-of-date but working packages ?? >>> >> >> There is always a sliding-scale of "How out-of-date?". Is some user of >> the package just flagging it 10 minutes after the latest upstream >> change? >> >> Is a dependency no longer supported by Arch (that's what AUR is >> for...)? >> >> Some packages may not have been updated in quite a while, but may be >> 100% valid and still good. >> >> This is hard to give advise on without knowing more about what you are >> considering "out-of-date"? > > I want to add that sometimes the maintainer might be already > working on an update but didn't release it. > It's easier to branch of a package and test it until merging it to the > AUR sometimes. -- yours zoorat, PGP: 00000586360F8791A5492251129802DDA8074345 GITHUB: https://github.com/z00rat

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got a laptop :)
by zoorat 12 Nov '23

12 Nov '23

hi, i am the same guy from https://lists.archlinux.org/hyperkitty/list/aur-general@lists.archlinux.org… got a system with archlinux after a long time. it took way too long because my exam just got delayed and delayed then on top of that, some other stuff stupid happened... currently got into a university and studying CSE. during this time, i used an archlinux container from an old mac to keep my cli packages up to date. still using that mac but flashed it with linux. i wanna thank all those people who tried to help me fix my laptop and set up a server to keep maintaining my packages, i can't explain how happy those emails made me. and also thanks to all who co-maintained my packages. thanks a lot mate. i'm back reporting broken packages in AUR. already 52 pending :) love this new /requests page, wish it had some personal stats. but as i wasn't very active on the mailing list, i don't really know much about new or changed rules. please tell me what changed and what i should not do. some questions: 1. is it ok to file deletion req for not orphan also not out of date package ?? should i first try to contact the maintainer and if he does not update, should i file req then ?? what if there is no way to contact him ?? 2. should AUR host out-of-date but working packages ?? 3. is it ok to ask people to be co-maintainer for their pkgs ?? 4. review my PKGBUILDs, please list: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?K=zoorat&SeB=m 5. about TU ?? my 1224 deletion req was accepted, and 6 deletion req was rejected, 52 req is pending for now. (got this number by filtering by `notify@aur.archlinux.org` and searching for "has been rejected by" / "has been accepted by". don't know if it's right info tho) and i'm also maintaining some pkgs. is this enough ?? when i asked last time, @ainola told me my account was young. do i meet the requirements for being a TU ?? 6. shouldn't i remove inactive co-maintainers ?? thanks in advance. p.s. sorry about my English. -- yours zoorat, PGP: 00000586360F8791A5492251129802DDA8074345 GITHUB: https://github.com/z00rat

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Removal of Jonas Witschel (diabonas) as Package Maintainer
by Levente Polyak 09 Nov '23

09 Nov '23

Hi all, I'd like to start a "Special Removal of an Inactive Package Maintainer" [0] for Jonas Witschel (diabonas) based on prolonged inactivity. Jonas has not executed any packaging or AUR maintenance duties since a very long time. Due to this I tried to reach Jonas since quite a while over various channels. Finally I was able to get a response via Signal mid of January 2023. He promised to try to catch up with things that neglected, which unfortunately still didn't happen for his Arch responsibilities. Afterwards I've also tried to get a response in March, May, June and August, without success. Furthermore, gromit has also reached out independently while trying to reach all package maintainers that missed multiple votes, also without success. Hence we also started replacing Jonas as main key holder and I hereby start the Package Maintainer removal with this thread. The discussion period will last for three days, after which there will be a voting period of five days. Cheers, Levente [0]: https://package-maintainer-bylaws.aur.archlinux.org/#_special_removal_of_an…

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'gnome-passwordsafe' rename to 'secrets'
by Fabian Bornschein 09 Nov '23

09 Nov '23

Hi! :) gnome-passwordsafe was renamed to "secrets" 2 years ago[0]. As per FS#80135[1] there is a open bug report. The secrets package is available in extra-testing[2] for a week, tested (install, upgrade from gnome-passwordsafe, uninstall + reinstall) and seems looks good to me to move. Since this is a new package the rules[3] require to post this on the mailing list and find 3 other maintainers that agree on it to move to extra (and of course to remove gnome-passwordsafe[4] and the AUR PKGBUILD[5] in the process). [0] https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/secrets/-/commit/65720af5023cc5a08e31076cfe0… [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/80135?project=1&string=secrets [2] https://archlinux.org/packages/extra-testing/any/secrets/ [3] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Package_Maintainer_guidelines#Rules_for_pa… [4] https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/gnome-passwordsafe/ [5] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/secrets -- Fabian Bornschein <fabiscafe(a)archlinux.org>

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Disowning my mingw packages
by Ivan Puntiy 06 Nov '23

06 Nov '23

1. For a few years now I no longer work with C++ as my primary language. 2. Due to a war in my region I no longer have access to my home computer with Arch installation. 3. There keeps coming action requests on them, that I can't currently act upon. Therefore I'm disowning my following AUR packages, and they are free for adoption by a willing individuals: * mingw-w64-wxmsw * mingw-w64-wxmsw3.1 * mingw-w64-libdxfrw Ivan.

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[aur-general] TU rename Bylaws amendment vote
by Konstantin Gizdov 25 Oct '23

25 Oct '23

Hi, As per the TU Bylaws following the discussion to rename the Truster Users [1], the Trusted Users themselves must vote to approve the renaming. Hence, please, cast your vote on whether you agree the Bylaws be amended and the "Trusted User" role is renamed into "Package Maintainer". Vote is located at - https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/140 -- Regards, Konstantin [1] - https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/rfcs/-/merge_requests/7

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PKGBUILD review request for displaylink-runit
by Eric 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

Hi all, I'm working on this PKGBUILD to provide a displaylink-runit service. I use an Artix based distro using runit instead of systemD as the init system. Before I publish this, please review this. I have posted the link to my PR to a few Linux communities and I have addressed their comments, so hopefully that takes care of my small mistakes haha. If you have the hardware to test, that would be great! https://github.com/e-dong/aur-displaylink-runit/pull/1 References: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/displaylink https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/DisplayLink Best, Eric

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