April 2014 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Possibility of including xorg input patch
by Kirill Churin 25 Jul '15

25 Jul '15

Can this patch https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=33142 be applied to Arch's xorg? It solves famous problem https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865 with broken keyboard input for users who use multiple keyboard layouts without any noticeable side-effects. It's known this patch has been applied in Ubuntu. -- Kirill Churin Jabber: reflexing(a)reflexing.ru, ICQ: 8163230, Skype on demand.

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[arch-general] Java 8
by Caleb Cushing 10 Jul '14

10 Jul '14

I'm just wondering what the plan is, if any, for getting java 8 packages into arch? -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=xenoterracide%40gmail.com&ctz=Ame…

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[arch-general] Resume from suspend in RAM fails
by nmset＠netcourrier.com 12 May '14

12 May '14

Hello, Resume from suspend in RAM fails even though I have followed the Arch Wiki recommendations, with latest 3.12.7 kernel (and before). The 'resume' hook has been added for mkinitcpio and the machine goes to suspend from the command line (pm-suspend) with no GUI enabled. All keyboard and mouse lights are off and the screen is just black with no backlight. I can't even login through SSH and can't get any PM debug info. It happens on one particular machine only and I'm quite stuck with it. Any suggestions to solve this ? I can provide other relevent information if required. Thanks.

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[arch-general] Comment on: Use systemd timers instead of /etc/cron.{hourly, daily, weekly, monthly}?
by Maciej Puzio 09 May '14

09 May '14

[This is a comment to arch-dev-public thread "Use systemd timers instead of /etc/cron.{hourly, daily, weekly, monthly}?". As I was unable to post to that list, I am following instructions provided by the list server by sending this message to arch-general and the author of the original thread. I'd like to mention that I also tried and was not able to file a bug report on this issue, due to bug tracker server failing to send a registration code. The original thread can be viewed here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.devel/20644 ] I am sorry to say that the decision to replace cron.daily tasks with systemd timers is causing problems. After a routine update I noticed that my machines now perform daily maintenance tasks exactly at midnight. Not only is this time not optimal (too early), but all machines perform their maintenance at the same moment, which is far from ideal, especially for servers. Previously I had each server to perform daily cron jobs at various times, spread between 3 and 6am. On my machines this affects updatedb, man-db, logrotate and shadow, updatedb generating a lot of I/O and thus being the most problematic. I was not able to find any way to configure systemd to fire daily calendar timers at a different time of the day (please correct me if I missed something). So far I found two workarounds: 1. Override timer files and set OnCalendar with a specific time, rather than "daily". This has to be done separately for each timer. 2. Restore cron.daily scripts and mask relevant systemd services and timers (i.e. revert the configuration to what it was before the update). The resulting config is simpler to manage than the first workaround (no separate time settings for each task), so I went with this one. I am not sure what to suggest as a general fix for this issue, other than a feature request to systemd upstream maintainers. I guess it is too late to roll back the changes in affected Arch packages. I am posting this for other users looking for a solution to this problem. Thanks Maciej Puzio

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[arch-general] Optimizing boot
by Toyam Cox 01 May '14

01 May '14

Hello, I want to have a sub-30 second boot time, so as to make it possible for me to power down my computer and power back up at a moment's notice. Right now, I have a (according to my watch) ~35 second boot time. I used systemd-analyze, and discovered that NetworkManager.service is running for 12 seconds of that time! Also, polkit.service runs quite a while after everything else, but that is less important. How do I optimize NetworkManager.service to shorten boot times, especially as I don't need a network first-thing? -- - Toyam

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[arch-general] On-boot delay due to timer units
by Leonid Isaev 01 May '14

01 May '14

Hi, Since anacron jobs were replaced with timers, I am seeing a noticeable delay before agetty prompt appears on machines which were unused for some time (due to update/man-db timers starting up simultaneously). TLDR: Anacron inserts a random delay between boot and running the jobs, so is it possible to simulate this behavior by including e.g. "OnBootSec=..." in the timers at next update? Or is this option incompatible with OnCalendar? Here is the (edited) "statistics" obtained by grepping /var/log/daemon.log. The disk is actually an Intel X-25 (sata-2) SSD. --- No timers are active (baseline) --- Apr 6: 5.983s (kernel) + 1.947s (userspace) = 7.930s. Apr 6: 5.815s (kernel) + 2.494s (userspace) = 8.310s. Apr 6: 5.692s (kernel) + 1.612s (userspace) = 7.304s. Apr 7: 5.874s (kernel) + 2.561s (userspace) = 8.436s. Apr 9: 5.704s (kernel) + 3.001s (userspace) = 8.706s. Apr 10: 5.612s (kernel) + 2.494s (userspace) = 8.106s. Apr 11: 5.618s (kernel) + 2.908s (userspace) = 8.526s. Apr 12: 5.671s (kernel) + 3.345s (userspace) = 9.016s. --- Timers first run --- Apr 14: 5.464s (kernel) + 46.883s (userspace) = 52.348s. --- Startup with timers --- Apr 15: 5.715s (kernel) + 2.878s (userspace) = 8.593s. Apr 16: Not powered on Apr 17: 6.414s (kernel) + 7.785s (userspace) = 14.200s. $ systemd-analyze blame | head 6.724s man-db.service 1.935s updatedb.service 926ms root-ssh-key-init(a)0x14d33aba.service 507ms lxc(a)appserver\x2dx86_64.service 427ms rfkill-unblock(a)wlan.service 381ms systemd-networkd.service 340ms wlan-powersave(a)wls1.service 289ms syslog-ng.service 235ms volatile-mail.service 225ms iptables.service Thanks, L. -- Leonid Isaev GPG fingerprints: DA92 034D B4A8 EC51 7EA6 20DF 9291 EE8A 043C B8C4 C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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[arch-general] Hanging on log out
by David Rosenstrauch 30 Apr '14

30 Apr '14

Been having a problem in recent weeks that I'm unable to fix or even diagnose. When I log out of my desktop, the machine just hangs with a blank X windows screen. (I.e., black screen with mouse cursor pointer.) I'm able switch to a console and successfully issue the "sudo poweroff" command from there. But the system never brings me back to an X login screen. I'm not sure what package is causing the problem here. I run XFCE with LXDM as my DM. My initial guess was that this is an issue with xfce4-session, since a) I see a zombie "sh" process under xfce4-session when I look at the process list, and b) when I kill xfce4-session I successfully get back to a login screen. But I also see that the xfce4-session package hasn't been updated since September, so I'd think it's unlikely that that's what's causing the problem. Anyone got any pointers in the right direction for me on this? Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] trunk-only zombie packages in the community repo
by Roman Neuhauser 30 Apr '14

30 Apr '14

hello, i'd like a clarification regarding the structure of the community.git repository, and what it means for certains paths to exist or not. there's a bunch of directories that have a trunk/ subdir but no repos/. i'm curious what these directories represent. they're not packages, according to https://www.archlinux.org/packages/. latest commits affecting most of these directories have "db-remove: ..." for subject, and i'd guess they should've been removed completely. if i'm reading the wiki[0] correctly, /packages/db-remove may not the best ui for complete package removal, since the packager needs to perform two extra steps to DTRT: Removing a package ssh nymeria.archlinux.org /packages/db-remove repo-name arch packagename i.e. /packages/db-remove core i686 openssh And if you want to really kill the package, you will need to svn rm the entire package directory after the above steps and commit the deletion. another page omits this information completely[1]. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:HOWTO_Be_A_Packager#Remo… [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines#Accessing_… some of these directories are different, though: 6915e45 dwallace bring darcs up to date d52af52 rvanharen add --libexecdir e052323 seblu Prepare addition of the nftables framework 8d33b95 svenstaro Add box2d python bindings 35a0304 dwallace move xen from aur to community (d18d090 may be hiding more). what are these? there's also aur/darcs, is it in violation of the first rule in [1]? i guess not, since community/darcs does not get built. but that only points back at the original question. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_packaging_standards#Submitting_pa… ===== unpublished (trunk-only) directories: % comm -13 =(print -l */repos(:h)) =(print -l */trunk(:h)) | xargs -n 3 | column -t agsync arm-elf-binutils arm-elf-gcc-base bind-geodns binutils-multilib blueman bmake-mk-files ccmalloc cdfs cedet checkinstall cupsddk darcs e-modules-extra-svn e-svn e_dbus-svn ecore-svn edje-svn eet-svn eeze-svn efl-svn efreet-svn eina-svn eio-svn ejabberd-mod_archive ejabberd-mod_mysql ejabberd-mod_pgsql elementary-svn embryo-svn emesene emotion-svn emprint-svn ethumb-svn evas-svn evas_generic_loaders-svn evilwm fbshot fltk2 fxdesktop galago-daemon gambas2 glib2-docs glibc-static gmime22 gmime24 gnash gnomesu google-gadgets gsynaptics haskell-temporary htmldoc icewm-utils id3lib-rcc inputattach iptables-nftables ipython2 ircservices jack2-multilib lastfm-client lib32-libusb lib32-libusb-compat lib32-qt libgalago libgalago-gtk libgda3 liblinebreak libphobos linux-usermode llvm-amdgpu-snapshot lmctl metamail mingw32-binutils mingw32-gcc mingw32-gcc-base mingw32-pthreads mingw32-runtime mingw32-w32api ndiswrapper open-iscsi open-vm-tools-modules oss pam_pwcheck paraview perl-extutils-makemaker pidgin-facebookchat pmtools poweriso preload pybox2d pyqt3 python-cjson python-galago python-galago-gtk python-gasp python-genshi python-gnutls python-irclib python-lcms python-pychart python-vorbissimple python2-galago python2-irclib python2-pyzmq python2-slip python2-vobject python2-xlib qscintilla-qt3 qtorrent rusxmms sbaz skype-oss skype-staticqt slmodem stopwatch stormbaancoureur synce-librapi synce-libsynce synce-serial synce-vdccm taglib-rcc tasks ted tomoyo-tools tora tucan virtinst wdm wifi-select xen xfmedia yacpi ===== most recent commits affecting each of the above: % comm -13 =(print -l */repos(:h)) =(print -l */trunk(:h)) \ | xargs -n 1 git --no-pager log -1 --pretty=format:'%h %<(14)%an %s%n' -- 87b37c8 spupykin db-remove: agsync removed by spupykin 619b0d0 spupykin db-remove: arm-elf-binutils removed by spupykin 9dd957a spupykin db-remove: arm-elf-gcc-base removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 1a7bcb1 heftig db-remove: binutils-multilib removed by heftig 26aecf1 spupykin db-remove: blueman removed by spupykin c4d9fb9 spupykin db-remove: bmake-mk-files removed by spupykin 1901a50 spupykin db-remove: ccmalloc removed by spupykin eaa2bfa tpowa db-remove: cdfs removed by tpowa d537669 spupykin db-remove: cedet removed by spupykin 303f954 spupykin db-remove: checkinstall removed by spupykin 6d9eb3d spupykin db-remove: cupsddk removed by spupykin 6915e45 dwallace bring darcs up to date a098f08 ronald db-remove: e-modules-extra-svn removed by ronald 70e9c7d ronald db-remove: e-svn removed by ronald 7310fb3 ronald db-remove: e_dbus-svn removed by ronald 0625dd2 ronald db-remove: ecore-svn removed by ronald 0528294 ronald db-remove: edje-svn removed by ronald 4bdeda0 ronald db-remove: eet-svn removed by ronald 8779d06 ronald db-remove: eeze-svn removed by ronald d52af52 rvanharen add --libexecdir cf16203 ronald db-remove: efreet-svn removed by ronald 26ced48 ronald db-remove: eina-svn removed by ronald d7c5163 ronald db-remove: eio-svn removed by ronald d7bdbdf spupykin db-remove: ejabberd-mod_archive removed by spupykin d445317 spupykin db-remove: ejabberd-mod_mysql removed by spupykin 9054b22 spupykin db-remove: ejabberd-mod_pgsql removed by spupykin 09d2476 ronald db-remove: elementary-svn removed by ronald 3802193 ronald db-remove: embryo-svn removed by ronald bfca47c heftig db-remove: emesene removed by heftig e0c5b4f ronald db-remove: emotion-svn removed by ronald a9ce99b ronald db-remove: emprint-svn removed by ronald 1b56c20 ronald db-remove: ethumb-svn removed by ronald 6a2db8f ronald db-remove: evas-svn removed by ronald ff4487a ronald db-remove: evas_generic_loaders-svn removed by ronald 714fcff arodseth db-remove: evilwm removed by arodseth df14ca0 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inputattach removed by spupykin e052323 seblu Prepare addition of the nftables framework e7de811 arodseth db-remove: ipython2 removed by arodseth d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages c9d93bb speps db-remove: jack2-multilib removed by speps d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 0e05f1c andrea db-remove: lib32-qt removed by andrea 2ed2054 spupykin db-remove: libgalago removed by spupykin aa5c593 spupykin db-remove: libgalago-gtk removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 5ab104e spupykin db-remove: liblinebreak removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages f9f99fa andyrtr db-remove: llvm-amdgpu-snapshot removed by andyrtr d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d36fa34 spupykin db-remove: metamail removed by spupykin 2f54be5 spupykin db-remove: mingw32-binutils removed by spupykin a1060fb spupykin db-remove: mingw32-gcc removed by spupykin 873dc91 spupykin db-remove: mingw32-gcc-base removed by spupykin 8555205 spupykin db-remove: mingw32-pthreads removed by spupykin ea3e831 spupykin db-remove: mingw32-runtime removed by spupykin 98d1f5f spupykin db-remove: mingw32-w32api removed by spupykin 9f2f953 tpowa db-remove: ndiswrapper removed by tpowa d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 422388a tpowa db-remove: open-vm-tools-modules removed by tpowa f67d4a0 kkeen db-remove: oss removed by kkeen a826aa8 spupykin db-remove: pam_pwcheck removed by spupykin a070216 stephane db-remove: paraview removed by stephane 9b4d729 spupykin git-svn-id: file:///srv/repos/svn-community/svn@102986 9fca08f4-af9d-4005-b8df-a31f2cc04f65 a7ab005 jsteel db-remove: pidgin-facebookchat removed by jsteel d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d36584e spupykin db-remove: poweriso removed by spupykin 1a2ff2a arodseth db-remove: preload removed by arodseth 8d33b95 svenstaro Add box2d python bindings e409b82 spupykin db-remove: pyqt3 removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 7a26b2f spupykin db-remove: python-galago removed by spupykin ad678eb spupykin db-remove: python-galago-gtk removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages d1847fd spupykin db-remove: python2-galago removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 3600804 kkeen db-remove: python2-pyzmq removed by kkeen 8382306 alucryd db-remove: python2-slip removed by alucryd 67926d1 arodseth db-remove: python2-vobject removed by arodseth d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages a5cb58c spupykin db-remove: qscintilla-qt3 removed by spupykin 2791ab8 spupykin db-remove: qtorrent removed by spupykin 556d8a7 spupykin db-remove: rusxmms removed by spupykin 187f5fb spupykin db-remove: sbaz removed by spupykin 1a7fe88 kkeen db-remove: skype-oss removed by kkeen d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 7408f89 spupykin db-remove: slmodem removed by spupykin 1ecce8b spupykin db-remove: stopwatch removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 9c6b856 spupykin db-remove: synce-librapi removed by spupykin 5482f3d spupykin db-remove: synce-libsynce removed by spupykin 63cddbd spupykin db-remove: synce-serial removed by spupykin c3f754d spupykin db-remove: synce-vdccm removed by spupykin 5825c06 spupykin db-remove: taglib-rcc removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 1f3e467 spupykin db-remove: ted removed by spupykin 97fb422 spupykin db-remove: tomoyo-tools removed by spupykin d18d090 foutrelis Revert r78782: Full pkgdesc cleanup for 2339 packages 2a52a3f arodseth db-remove: tucan removed by arodseth 31f12b3 spupykin db-remove: virtinst removed by spupykin 79d5c2c spupykin db-remove: wdm removed by spupykin 08bc536 spupykin db-remove: wifi-select removed by spupykin 35a0304 dwallace move xen from aur to community ffe3db2 spupykin db-remove: xfmedia removed by spupykin 8929a15 spupykin db-remove: yacpi removed by spupykin -- roman

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[arch-general] Error in wireshark-gtk2 in show interfaces for capture
by Maykel Franco 29 Apr '14

29 Apr '14

Hi, I have installed wireshark-gtk2. But when go to Capture/Interfaces I get this error: There are no interfaces on which a capture can be done. I follow this steps: Setting network privileges for dumpcap 1. Ensure your linux kernel and filesystem supports File Capabilities and also you have installed necessary tools. 2. "setcap 'CAP_NET_RAW+eip CAP_NET_ADMIN+eip' /usr/bin/dumpcap" 3. Start Wireshark as non-root and ensure you see the list of interfaces and can do live capture. Limiting capture permission to only one group 1. Create user "wireshark" in group "wireshark". 2. "chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap" 3. chmod 754 /usr/bin/dumpcap 4. "setcap 'CAP_NET_RAW+eip CAP_NET_ADMIN+eip' /usr/bin/dumpcap" 5. Ensure Wireshark works only from root and from a user in the "wireshark" group Thanks in advanced.

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[arch-general] Gnome 3.12 and password keyring
by azuri＠free.fr 28 Apr '14

28 Apr '14

Hello, Since my switch to gnome 3.12, I have a problem with the "Passwordless login trick" [1]. I have added "auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswdlogin" to /etc/pam.d/gdm-password. With previous versions of gnome, when I launched evolution (for example), as gnome-keyring wasn't unlock, I had a dialog asking for the password. In 3.12, that dialog does not open and so evolution can't retrieve my mails (same with epiphany that can't save passwords). I have removed the line and it works fine, but I really prefer passwordless logins (especially when switching between users or after idle!) Do you have a clue what has changed and where I could look at? Thanks, [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GDM#Passwordless_login

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