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[arch-general] changing nickname on arch infrastructure
by Alexander Epaneshnikov 14 Apr '20

14 Apr '20

hello list, i need to change my nick on arch bug-tracker, forum and wiki. where and to whom do I need to write? -- Sincerely, Alexander.

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[arch-general] Hyperkitty, Mailman, Postorius
by David Runge 12 Apr '20

12 Apr '20

Hi all, As a followup to my mail on arch-dev-public [1] I've just moved hyperkitty [2], mailman3 [3] and postorius [4] from [community-testing] to [community]. If you're running your own mailman instance, you have probably already read up on what the python3 based mailman-core aka. mailman3 has to offer in comparison to the current python2 based mailman. TL;DR: The mailman3 package will replace mailman [5] at some point (latest when we drop python2 from the repositories). Eventually mailman3 will be renamed to mailman. Currently mailman3 and mailman conflict. Mailman3 is modular: For archiving you need to use hyperkitty, for web-based management and signup you need to use postorius. **DO BACKUPS BEFORE TESTING!!!** While in theory all of these "should just work", they haven't been tested thoroughly by many Arch users yet (AFAIK). This is where you come in! Please **backup your existing mailman archives and data** before attempting to switch and take mailman3 for a test drive! Mailman3 and mailman(2) can not be installed side-by-side, as they make use of the same directories and the same system user. Neither mailman3, nor hyperkitty or postorius provide setuid [6] binaries (the current mailman does) while each provides a separate user. This means that managing those applications sudo or su has to be used. Hyperkitty (archiving) and postorius (user management) are both Django [7] applications, that are being installed system wide. This implies getting to know how to setup and use these applications. On the upside: This means archiving and configuration of mailman3 can be done on separate hosts (if the need arises)! When testing, upgrading and migrating I would like to invite you to extend the existing wiki pages for mailman3's setup [8], postorius' hosting [9] and hyperkitty's hosting [10] sections, wherever you use something that is not covered by the wiki yet. The more diverse the setup documentation is, the better for all of us! Closing, I'm of course also interested in any package improvement suggestions or package bug reports that you might have. Enjoy the new mailman ecosystem! Best, David [1] https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2020-February/029854.… [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hyperkitty [3] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mailman [4] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Postorius [5] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mailman_2 [6] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Capabilities [7] https://www.djangoproject.com/ [8] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mailman#Setup [9] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Postorius#Hosting [10] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hyperkitty#Hosting -- https://sleepmap.de

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[arch-general] rEFInd package being neglected by maintainer.
by mike lojkovic 12 Apr '20

12 Apr '20

rEFInd has had multiple versions came out, and the mainter has been neglecting to update it for nearly two years. Is there an eta or talk of changing the maintainer for that package? Pretty sure, it builds find as an aur alternative has been up for awhile.

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[arch-general] Doubts with 'apulse'
by riveravaldez 09 Apr '20

09 Apr '20

Hi, if this queries must go to some other specific places (forums, AUR, etc.) please let me know so I move them there. 1. According to the instructions in [1] «it is necessary to exclude /dev/snd/ from Firefox' sandboxing by adding it to the comma-separated list in about:config → security.sandbox.content.write_path_whitelist», but right now I'm using '$ apulse firefox' without that exclusion and seems to work fine. Maybe that's outdated? (My system is updated.) 2. According to [2] «to allow ALSA programs to play while JACK is running edit (or create) /etc/asound.conf» with this: # convert alsa API over jack API # use it with # % aplay foo.wav # use this as default pcm.!default { type plug slave.pcm "jack" hint.description "Jack Audio" } Now, when I installed apulse, I got this instruction: «For using PulseAudio emulation create a proper .asoundrc: $ cp /usr/share/apulse/asoundrc.sample ~/.asoundrc». Is there any relation or conflict between those two files? BTW, I simply forgot to follow that apulse indication, but it seems to work fine anyway. Maybe it's not necessary? Thanks a lot. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox#Multimedia_playback [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit#Playing_nice…

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Re: [arch-general] teapot package could be improved
by Jude DaShiell 09 Apr '20

09 Apr '20

It's all good, man page has it listed as teapot but actual program is run as teapot-planner and it runs too. --

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[arch-general] teapot package could be improved
by Jude DaShiell 09 Apr '20

09 Apr '20

which package has the version of rpc.h teapot needs to build? Whichever package that is, the dependency is missing from the build script. --

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[arch-general] Time stamps are in 24 hour format how can you change this.
by ilovecountrymusic483＠gmail.com 08 Apr '20

08 Apr '20

Hi all, I am using Jenux which is a basic installer for arch Linux, but any I have notest that for some reason when using thunderbird with orca, Time and day are spoken in 24 hour format with year, month day followed by the time in 24 hour format. My time zone is set correctly. For example 2020/2020/jfirstjf 15:jj. Any one know how to switch to udds format? It's driving me crazy. If I use orca to get the time it is spoken correctly. Thanks all. Matthew PS, I have checked the arch wiki, but came up empty. Thanks.

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[arch-general] Multi-threaded mkinitpcio
by Amin Vakil 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

So every update of linux kernels and modules which need mkinitpcio to be executed, takes too much unnecessary time (maybe 2 min) which could be handled if it executes on multi threads of CPU. Actually this 2 minutes bothers me this much that I'm emailing Arch General Mailing List is because I'm afraid my Arch would be broken if my laptop shuts down in this process and I have to rescue it by live USB. I have read the mkinitpcio wiki page and I can't find anything regarding this matter: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio I've checked and my cpu usage and it shows me that it uses maximum power of a core when mkinitpcio is running, so I assumed it could be helped if it runs on multi threads. So my question is why it doesn't execute over all threads or at least have the option to do that? Does it help if it gets executed over multi threads or the bottleneck is somewhere else?

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[arch-general] Problem with packaging pyxdg and xdg from PyPI
by Ricardo Band 05 Apr '20

05 Apr '20

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ahoi, I maintain a tool called virtualfish [1] on the AUR. It is writte in python and one dependency of it is called xdg [2]. It is not packaged in archlinux so I would just do that on the AUR. Problem is there already is a package in archlinux extra which is called python-xdg [3]. That package includes a python library called pyxdg [4] which does nearly the same as xdg but is still a different library. In my opinion the arch packages python-xdg and python2-xdg have an incorrect name. They should be called python-pyxdg so the xdg module could be packaged under python-xdg. The naming schema with the python-py prefix looks odd but isn't new. It is already used in the pyserial [5] package. How do we solve this problem? [1]: https://pypi.org/project/virtualfish/ [2]: https://pypi.org/project/xdg/ [3]: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/python-xdg/ [4]: https://pypi.org/project/pyxdg/ [5]: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/python-pyserial/ - -- Greetings Ricardo Band https:// www.ricardo.band mailto:// email(a)ricardo.band xmpp://jabber@ricardo.band -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEhyzgFNiV8yZuI1T5Gp1lfQa1gg4FAl6JGRgACgkQGp1lfQa1 gg76dQ/8D+4Fo3AiKoPw+CFcQsATGs7Ry+W5l8awSHzEUjrI7lcMJCFEXS2CjzxO +LBzSpmP1p36LI/Ec/TAAc60nl3i3tmY8SZY4lPhQJDWHSo8F3az3aMCsy4TfBCa YQRIZPzx3iMRKYEiJx8GVHiSW/GebebT4ilp4ssQjgkIrq28HT5G0rK7N7O6/Yp0 gZHo4TlgqpOVZ8HgXfX2lVoO4O1/7isyIKtL5YMCMwbGxsFBaYxkwbahcd1FTd7A AIC6XP3wGNZbpPEtZQGDGFd1soJ0abh1bxUsvwlgPswoEkho/HKq9L3WhbsqFS4x wLt07/7ucpRXZ+16ajmDoLyjjhvLjUfSlO4sXi5sAwrIUYS/rbnB4L7qoUfGkyRs KJ6e07iW+T7ZQRfNpodTs+N/RBDxUzNk5Pj5F5e7VgCWGEsUmePMG4TO5+06skIH OH9EXrATYLUjL31077rO1WzxSKShcoZ17Z0lW8IKYut4RDG1EgUMuIH/hyydKhWj 2VOVMjDY5PxdUtlvphSXHpdpbzGD+9n7TsAEFE3opQigayMbjBnprsUmk/ubX0Og pHXwAs45K5g3Kqa1qY7tow8Rw5a528Tsc3+FZGAEvNj7tRlynrAS370oFnKys9Wc gING0Q/UB2siV1LJRuExBNXLP63yezCqVqdp7LvkvodRdwL06Zg= =4gAQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [arch-general] Multi-threaded mkinitpcio
by Amin Vakil 03 Apr '20

03 Apr '20

> > As it's true for pretty much all update process for pretty much every OS > in the world, things can break if the update is interrupted. > I meant as other linux distros keep multiple kernel versions, if something happens during kernel update you can always boot to another kernel which I've done on CentOS servers before when update has broken during kernel update. > > For my particular setup, running `mkinitcpio -P` yields those times: > ------------------------ > real 1m8.320s > user 0m24.742s > sys 0m12.806s > ------------------------ > Half of the time mkinitcpio was waiting for disk I/O. Most likely > `find`, but that?s only mu guess. > As my Arch is on SSD I suppose hard drive is not a bottleneck. > > Even while it's unlikely that only mkinitcpio suffers from a damaged > HDD and even while smartctl not necessarily does show issues of a > already damaged aged HDD, I would run smartctl and take a look, if it > shows something fishy. > Good point, I've checked and my SSD is OK. > > change the COMPRESSION variable to lz4 ou lzop in your /etc/mkinitcpio.conf > : it will considerably reduce the compression time. > Great suggestion, I've compared with gzip and it's really considerably faster. (Four images are built, linux (default, fallback), linux-hardened (default, fallback)) gzip: real 1m42.140s user 1m22.717s sys 0m23.493s lz4: real 1m1.120s user 0m44.310s sys 0m21.785s cat (without compression): real 0m59.477s user 0m43.050s sys 0m21.946s To sum it up I will enable lz4 compression to benefit from both reduced time and saving space. Also I'm planning to read wiki on how to safely disable fallback. I'm using LVM on LUKS method and I suppose fallback image cannot boot my Arch, so it doesn't help in case of an accident. Thank you all

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