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[arch-general] Alternative init system proposal
by Eric Vidal 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

Hello everyone, I'm the creator of Obarun I use runit for PID1 and managing service. Repo is available for all package builded without systemd support. All this package have the name xxx-systemd to avoid trouble with original package. Package are maintained every week (one time per week). all this package doesn't have service declaration to allow other distro to use it like manjaro, alphaos etecetera... A github with all the pkgbuild used is available here https://github.com/Obarun + some personnal scripts A complete site is available too with forum and a little wiki here www.obarun.org Proposal an alternative to systemd on arch system isn't impossible even for complex desktop environment. KF5, XFCE4 work on it.(using consolekit for the moment) dev is managed by gentoo eudev (working with jcnelson vdev is in progress, but not working for the moment). I use my system from almost one year now and share it from july 2015. This system is not perfect (i'm not a good dev) and i'm alone to make all the stuff (site, maintaining, new features and so one) but i'm the proof that can be possible and without so much efford. Isn't the work to arch to propose an alternative. Pacman, makepkg, pkgbuild are beautiful tools which allow user to make every his want. So use it and don't ask anything to arch dev :) -- Eric Vidal <eric(a)obarun.org>

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[arch-general] systemctl --user broken
by juan tascon 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Gday everyone, Since the last systemd update (229) I haven't been able to run my systemd user instance. I'm getting this error when I try to run "systemctl --user status": Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory Running strace reveals that it tries to connect to kdbus which isn't available on the current kernel: open("/sys/fs/kdbus/1000-user/bus", O_RDWR|O_NOCTTY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) I've tried disabling kdbus adding "kdbus=0" as kernel parameter but that didn't work. Any help here will be greatly appreciated.

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[arch-general] can't balance full btrfs raid6 filesystem
by Jameson Pugh 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

I have a raid6 btrfs filesystem which I filled up, and added a disk to: > sudo btrfs fi show /dev/sdb Label: 'raid' uuid: 96c75e11-ab60-44b6-a450-4cd2831f86f0 Total devices 5 FS bytes used 917.77GiB devid 1 size 465.76GiB used 465.76GiB path /dev/sdb devid 2 size 465.76GiB used 465.76GiB path /dev/sdc devid 3 size 465.76GiB used 465.76GiB path /dev/sdd devid 4 size 931.51GiB used 465.76GiB path /dev/sde devid 5 size 1.82TiB used 0.00B path /dev/sdf Despite having removed files, and added the new device, I still can't balance the filesystem: > sudo btrfs balance start /mnt/raid ERROR: error during balancing '/mnt/raid': No space left on device There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail Adding -dusage doesn't help: > sudo btrfs balance start -dusage=4 /mnt/raid Done, had to relocate 0 out of 471 chunks > sudo btrfs balance start -dusage=5 /mnt/raid ERROR: error during balancing '/mnt/raid': No space left on device There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail Neither dmesg nor journalctl have anything useful. Am I doomed to rebuild the filesystem? I'm actually at the point, now, where I'm considering ZFS to avoid the issues btrfs has with running out of space, free space reporting, and cache disks. I really don't want to move to something that isn't GPL compatible, but this is getting quite frustrating. Thanks, Jameson

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[arch-general] mksh-52.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)?
by David C. Rankin 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

Attempting update today, I received: error: mksh: signature from "Thorsten Töpper <........(a)freethoughts.de>" is unknown trust :: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/mksh-52.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] n error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. Is this a know issue? How to work around (correctly)? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] VBoxWebsrv has trouble exiting itself
by Jim Mi 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

Recently I found my system(Gnome+Nvidia+bumblebee) freezes sometimes during powering off, so I checked the systemsd log, and it shows that vboxwebsrv timed out(took about a minute to be killed). I disabled vboxwebsrv, everything seems okay now. Has anyone experienced this too ? If it were a bug, I think the developers should be informed.

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[arch-general] archwiki (readline) Disabling control echo no longer working, and ~ not shown until 2nd char typed?
by David C. Rankin 20 Feb '16

20 Feb '16

All, Following https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Readline I was attempting to disable control echo by adding 'set echo-control-characters off' to ~/.inputrc. After logging out/in there is no change to the '^C' echo after 'ctrl+c' is pressed to terminate the present command. I even tried adding it to /etc/inputrc. Same result. Is there something else needed with the current readline? Also in this process, I noticed when I type '~' (e.g. like ~/tmp) the '~' is not echoed until the 2nd character is pressed. This is confusing. I've looked at /etc/inputrc and do not see anything that appears to suppress echo of '~' (or I was too dumb to recognize it). What is preventing the '~' from being echoed when it is typed as the first character? How do I fix it so it always is shown? (I'm using default BASH as the shell) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] [SOLVED] Re: Update php 5.6 to 7.0.1 problems
by Maykel Franco 19 Feb '16

19 Feb '16

2016-01-27 12:21 GMT+01:00 Jameson <imntreal(a)gmail.com>: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 3:37 PM Wolfgang Mader <Wolfgang_Mader(a)brain-frog.de> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 01/26/2016 09:31 PM, Maykel Franco wrote: >> > How to resolve this warning?? I have error with owncloud client try >> > connect user/password login... >> >> For you module error, check this page >> https://pierre-schmitz.com/php-7-on-arch-linux/ >> especially the paragraph "Configuration changes". As they are now build >> in, you can simply remove them from /etc/php/php.ini >> > > You should also take a look at a tool like pacdiff to help you manage > config changes that come with package updates. > >> I update the system with php7 with latest packages today and the owncloud client works perfectly!! Thanks for all.

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[arch-general] Alternative init system proposal
by Ivan 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Hello, I have a proposal for Arch Linux developers and by mailing on this list I would also appreciate feedback from non-developers that use Arch Linux. Note: I am not here to hate on the current status, nor to disapprove of current Arch choices. So, to get to the point... I would like to propose development and official support of an alternative init system and service manager. My main preference would be OpenRC + sysvinit. The combination of those two has shown to work surprisingly well even with the current Arch's binary packages which are compiled with systemd support/dependencies. There are OpenRC packages already in the AUR, as well as an unofficial repository called "openrc-eudev" that replaces udev with Gentoo's eudev. See http://systemd-free.org for more info. (Please disregard the hate on the website, I am not pro-systemd-hate) Now, I realize this is not the correct way to do this stuff, and if we want an alternative system, a lot of compiling might have to be done, Or is it possible to keep systemd support? 1. Udev... Well, there are two alternatives worth mentioning. The first is, obviously, Gentoo's eudev that works really well, and keeps udev compatibility. Another alternative worth mentioning is vdev (https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev) It is also maintained in the AUR. vdev is developed to be completely non-dependent on systemd and I think it might be a nice option to consider. Note that it is still under development. 2. Packaging... If current and furure builds are kept with systemd support, then there's only the option of including an OpenRC-compatible script in the same package, along with the systemd.service file, and then depending on what's used on the machine, install the according one (in most cases). Otherwise, new compilation will have to be done, and that brings up the issue of storage space, which, in the worst case - gets cut in half. I would need more feedback on this. 2.1. Repositories... core, extra, community and multilib would not need any -openrc offsprings. If we would build new packages, without systemd support, pacman would need code modifications to distinguish between the two - systemd and openrc. An idea is to modify the package naming scheme somehow, possibly -openrc and -systemd. 3. Support... The biggest drawback is definitely the support that goes on in ArchBBS, ArchWiki, Bugtracker and eventually #archlinux on freenode IRC. The ArchBBS and the IRC wouldn't be detriment(?) because they don't really have any *specific* support threads or sections. However, the ArchWiki would need a lot of rewriting/editing, but honestly, the community is big enough to handle it. As for the bugtracker, it might get a bit more bugs than usually :D To conclude, this is still a mere draft and a proposal. I realize that there are a lot more things to be discussed about this. So, please give me feedback on all of this and let's see what we can do about it and what it can develop into... Kind regards to the entire mailinglist, ~ parazyd

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[arch-general] Ksnapshots not work
by Maykel Franco 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Hi, after update archlinux system, ksnapshot not work fine... Te key impr pet sys not work... Anybody with the same problem?

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[arch-general] SourceForge now supports TLS, update source URLs
by Nicolas F. 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Hi all, quick reminder that SourceForge was recently acquired and since then has enabled HTTPS on all of the site. Since some PKGBUILDs fetch their sources from SourceForge, it might be a good idea to switch them from using plain http:// to https://. While the certificate authority model is arguably broken when it comes to protecting against state-sponsored attacks, this will give some additional security to ensure that the sources packagers fetch and generate the hash sums from are actually the sources the project releases, and not a malicious man-in-the-middle response by some third party. Finding the affected packages should be as simple as running the following in the ABS root: for f in $(egrep -r -l 'http://.*\.sourceforge\.net' *); do \ echo $(dirname $f); done | uniq I'm counting 937 affected packages here. Cheers

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