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Re: [arch-general] OT: Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop
by Ralf Mardorf 03 May '14

03 May '14

> > Would you stop breaking the thread? This is the third time you've > > broken this thread alone. > > > > Not to mention top posting, but I'm not sure if there's a policy on > > that here. You need to explain that. The thread is a hidden thingy in the mail's headers, it's not the subject. In the header are In-Reply-To/References and some people sort their mails grouped by threads. Top posting is unwanted, consider to use inline posting or bottom posting and _remove_ irrelevant quotes. There's a mailing list archive, so IMO it's better to remove a little bit too much of the text, than to keep too much.

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[arch-general] nvidia optimus with intel/nouveau and bumblebee + bbswitch
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby 03 May '14

03 May '14

Hi all, I have a Dell Latitude E6430, with the Optimus thing and a dual graphic card: Intel & Nvidia. (I did know I got that until now) I installed bumblebee and bbswitch I enabled bumblebeed at startup I installed "intel" and "nouveau" Xorg drivers I setup nouveau to be early loaded The BIOS only allow me to check or uncheck "Optimus". When unchecked => The OS boots with Intel ("intel" driver) when checked => The OS boots with Nvidia ("nouveau" driver) To potentially enable the 2 cards, I have to setup "check" that option. When this option is checked (the system boots on the Nvidia card) "xrandr" only lists 1 provider: nouveau. I cleaned /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* to not mention any GPU related instructions. I get stuck on this, because whatever documentation I read, as long as xrandr lists only 1 provider I cannot try any solution to get 3 screens when I want to (I use a xrandr GUI to enable what I want). Note that I dont want to have 3 screens all the time. Where should I check further in order to get xrandr to list the 2 poviders I need? Thank you.

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[arch-general] netctl/systemd - permission error in dmesg - need fixing?
by David C. Rankin 03 May '14

03 May '14

All, Checking dmesg, I found the line: [ 2.865094] systemd[1]: Configuration file /etc/systemd/system/netctl@rlf_network\x2dstatic.service is marked world-inaccessible. This has no effect as configuration data is accessible via APIs without restrictions. Proceeding anyway. Checking /etc/systemd/system, I find the file with 0600 perms: -rw------- 1 root root 200 Dec 5 10:44 netctl@rlf_network\x2dstatic.service Checking /etc/netctl, the netctl file originally read IS world readable: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 424 Dec 4 08:20 rlf_network-static What is causing systemd or netctl to create the file in /etc/systemd/system with 0600, thereby causing the dmesg entry? Does this need to be fixed? (if so, I'll file - but is this a bug?) I found a similar, but unrelated thread here: http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6953 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] VMware 10.0.2, kernel 3.14.2: recompiling vmware modules modules
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby 03 May '14

03 May '14

Hi all, As reported by the forum thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1410987 I encounter the same problem. Unfortunately, the topic has been closed because of trolling, but would you know a quick workaround (staying with this kernel)? I need VMware workstation for work too :-)

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Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop
by Mark Lee 02 May '14

02 May '14

Salutations, Okay. Try starting ove again. Boot into the arch iso using uefi boot (preferably but not necessary). Then set up your partitions (root, home). For boot, mount the windows EFI system partition as /boot. Then install the system. You won't need to install grub or gummiboot since you can boot the efistub directly. I would create a folder in /boot named "arch". I would then copy the *.img from /boot to /boot/arch and rename the vmlinuz-Linux to vmlinuz-linux.efi. If you booted into uefi mode from the Arch iso, you should be able to run efibootmgr. Run efibootmgr to see what entries you have (you should at least have the windows entry). Then type something like this : efibootmgr -d <efi disk id ( probably /dev/sda) -p <parition # (probably 1> -L "Arch Linux UEFI" -l /arch/vmlinux-Linux.efi -u "root=<location of root> initramfs=/arch/initramfs.img rw quiet" -w. You should be able to reboot if all went well and you will boot into Arch Linux. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs(a)gmail.com> Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 8:07 PM To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "run the entry." I'm sorry. I'm going to try again later. In fact, I may take the undesireable step of installing from Manjaro or whatever is the shortcut way to install Arch Linux these days. On the one hand, I don't care to learn about what's Micro$oft's latest tortuous trick it has played on the users; and on the other hand, I do value to learn the nuts and bolts of GNU/Linux. Thank you very much. I am willing to give it one more try. I might even try to install grub in a partition, as apparently is what Ubuntu has done. Thank you again, Alan Davis On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 01/05/14 07:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on /boot, > > where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. > > > > In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a boot > menu > > from there, and boot ubuntu. Not Arch. Yet. > > > > Thank you for now. > > > > Alan > > You need to explicitly run the entry (if you had the EFI stuff mounted) > or the fallback entry (if you didn't). > >

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[arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop
by Alan E. Davis 02 May '14

02 May '14

This is insanity... The first time I have encountered the much maligned Micro$oft UEFI / Secure Boot adventure. On my new Thinkpad Yoga, with a Wacom active digitizer and pen. Ubuntu was a walk in the park. I installed Ubuntu naively, alongside the new Windows 8.1 laptop. It took maybe an hour to break my resolve to take my time. It was a disconcerting experience. I now have a system that boots Ubuntu 2014.04, through a convoluted process of signing into Windoze, then backing out through advanced settings to boot from a Menu. If I were trying to lock in my customer base, I couldn't have designed it any better, or made it any more uncomfortable, myself. Ubuntu picks up the Wacom pen, and almost everything else. But it's not Archlinux. I am a bit fearful, but decided that Archlinux, which I am using on two other machines, would potentially be the better choice. I have two more partitions, one of a /home and another for an Arch /boot, so I went ahead and walked through the most of the install, except for installing the boot manager. I am stuck now. I don't want to compromise what I have already gained. Now I need to learn how to set up the system to boot any of the three OSs. I am puzzled by the variety of approaches I have seen; hence, I am reaching out here on the mailing list. I saw advice to use GRUB but install it in the boot PARTITION. Not sure how to do this, and not sure whether it will work. Does this make sense to anyone? Alan

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[arch-general] mc - why not alias mc-wrapper.sh as default
by David C. Rankin 02 May '14

02 May '14

All, midnight commander provides a convenient script that allows exit to the present working directory of mc instead of returning you to the directory in which mc was started. All that is required is a simple alias: alias mc='. /usr/lib/mc/mc-wrapper.sh' This simply invokes mc with the -P option saving the present dir to a tmp file, then changing to it on exit. Any reason not to make this the default? Just a convenience suggestion with a simple fix -- for consideration. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop
by Mark Lee 02 May '14

02 May '14

Salutations, What are you booting the Arch Iso off of? Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs(a)gmail.com> Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 9:09 PM To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop I have never seen an option to boot the Arch iso using eufi boot. I may not have said that I want to dual boot. I do need to do so. If I boot directly back into Arch, will there be an option do dual boot? (Actually triple boot for the time being.) Alan Davis On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> wrote: > Salutations, > > Okay. Try starting ove again. Boot into the arch iso using uefi boot > (preferably but not necessary). Then set up your partitions (root, home). > For boot, mount the windows EFI system partition as /boot. Then install the > system. You won't need to install grub or gummiboot since you can boot the > efistub directly. I would create a folder in /boot named "arch". I would > then copy the *.img from /boot to /boot/arch and rename the vmlinuz-Linux > to vmlinuz-linux.efi. If you booted into uefi mode from the Arch iso, you > should be able to run efibootmgr. Run efibootmgr to see what entries you > have (you should at least have the windows entry). Then type something like > this : efibootmgr -d <efi disk id ( probably /dev/sda) -p <parition # > (probably 1> -L "Arch Linux UEFI" -l /arch/vmlinux-Linux.efi -u > "root=<location of root> initramfs=/arch/initramfs.img rw quiet" -w. You > should be able to reboot if all went well and you will boot into Arch Linux. > > Regards, > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs(a)gmail.com> > Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 8:07 PM > To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a > Windows8 UEFI laptop > > I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "run the > entry." I'm sorry. > > I'm going to try again later. In fact, I may take the undesireable step of > installing from Manjaro or whatever is the shortcut way to install Arch > Linux these days. > > On the one hand, I don't care to learn about what's Micro$oft's latest > tortuous trick it has played on the users; and on the other hand, I do > value to learn the nuts and bolts of GNU/Linux. > > Thank you very much. I am willing to give it one more try. I might even > try to install grub in a partition, as apparently is what Ubuntu has > done. > > Thank you again, > > Alan Davis > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On 01/05/14 07:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > > I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on > /boot, > > > where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. > > > > > > In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a boot > > menu > > > from there, and boot ubuntu. Not Arch. Yet. > > > > > > Thank you for now. > > > > > > Alan > > > > You need to explicitly run the entry (if you had the EFI stuff mounted) > > or the fallback entry (if you didn't). > > > > >

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Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop
by Mark Lee 02 May '14

02 May '14

Salutations, In these cases, I usually whip out a copy of refind-efi on cd and boot that via uefi. Refind-efi now detects kernels in /boot so it may be able to detect the Arch and Ubuntu kernels. This would allow you to boot the kernels into uefi mode and run efibootmgr. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs(a)gmail.com> Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 7:40 PM To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows8 UEFI laptop I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on /boot, where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a boot menu from there, and boot ubuntu. Not Arch. Yet. Thank you for now. Alan On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 01/05/14 06:56 PM, Mark Lee wrote: > > > > Salutations, > > > > You need to boot into UEFI mode. So when you're loading the Arch Linux > > ISO, make sure you select to boot into UEFI mode (usually an option in > > the boot menu) > > > > Regards, > > Mark > > You can do this without being booted into EFI mode, since gummiboot will > install itself as /boot/EFI/Boot/BOOTX64.EFI and then you can set it up > properly after the first boot. > > I had to do it this way because my hardware (T530) ran into the EFISTUB > bug on old kernel versions, including the latest Arch ISO. It's > completely fixed now at least on this hardware... no issues with dozens > of 3.14.1/3.14.2 builds or the latest LTS kernel. > >

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[arch-general] Fwd: Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI laptop
by Delcypher 01 May '14

01 May '14

> Here is a some information from the gdisk listing: > > Nbr Size Code Name > -----+------------+------+------------------------- > 1 1000.0 MiB 2700 > 2 260.0 MiB EF00 EFI system partition > 3 128.0 MiB 0C01 Microsoft reserved part > 4 49.6 GiB 0700 Basic data partition > 5 9.7 GiB 2700 Lenovo (?recovery?) > 6 10.0 GiB 8200 Linux SWAP > 7 49.4 GiB 8300 Archlinux / > 8 58.8 GiB 8300 /home > 9 1024.0 KiB EF02 "bios_grub" (Ubuntu?) > 10 59.8 GiB 8300 UBUNTU / > You do not need a bios_grub partition. That is for systems with a BIOS (rather than UEFI) that want use a GPT partition table rather than MBR. You are using UEFI, therefore you are probably using GPT already and so a bios_grub partition is completely unnecessary.

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