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[arch-general] [PATCH]: suggestion for new udev.install
by Tom Gundersen 16 Dec '10

16 Dec '10

Hi UDev maintainers, Attached is a suggestion for a new udev.install file. Two changes: Removed the output regarding upgrading from udev =< 100. This is more than four years old, and was referring to a non-existent readme file. Added a conditional database conversion, as this is recommended when upgrading from udev <=164 to 165 (which was recently released). Cheers, Tom

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[arch-general] new dmraid install - grub installed fine - boot fails to find root filesystem - dropped to [ramfs /]# ?
by David C. Rankin 16 Dec '10

16 Dec '10

Guys, There is either a new bug in the dmraid install routine or I've screwed something up. However, after not having problems with the prior 3 dmraid installs I've done, I'm not sure it's me. I made a new Arch install on a box that had an existing dmraid setup running suse 10.3. I installed per the "Installing with Fake Raid" wiki. For this setup, it was a complete fresh install, I completely repartitioned the array for this install not preserving /home or anything else. The logical partitions are: /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdb /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp5 /boot /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6 / /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp7 swap /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp8 /home All of the data partitions are ext3. (swap is of course swap) As per the wiki, during the grub install, I got an Error 22, so I went back in created sym links between nvidia_haheegdbp5 -> nvidia_haheegdb5, to get around the 'p' problem with grub not finding the partitions. I set the geometry with CHS information from cfdisk and confirmed that grub was happy with a 'find /grub/stage1' before setting the root (hd0,4) and performing the setup on (hd0). Grub setup completes without any errors and reports success. dm_mod and dm_mirror are included in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and /etc/rc.conf. However on boot, the boot fails when it can't find /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6. The actual error is: -------------------- Waiting 10 seconds for device /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6 ... Root device '/dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6' doesn't exist. Attempting to create it. ERROR: Unable to determine major/minor number of root device '/dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6' You are being dropped to a recovery shell Type 'exit' to try and continue booting /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off [ ramfs \ ]# -------------------- Now I'm stuck here. I have gone back chrooted the install and reinstalled grub twice just to make sure. No change. It boots to the grub menu and then boots fine until it gets to where it reads the root line from menu.lst and then dies. One thing I found strange, the second time I was setting up the chroot and had made a /mnt/arch to base the chroot in, when I when to mount the root partition with: mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6 /mnt/arch mount gave the error "You must specify a type..." which I thought was strange because then I turned around and did: mount /dev/dm-2 /mnt/arch and it worked just fine. Since /dev/mapper/nvidia_haheegdbp6 is just a link to ../dm-2 I found that strange. So I need ideas of what to try to get this box working. I can't figure out what went wrong. dm_mod and dm_mirror are loaded and working fine when chrooted. With this as the 4th dmraid install I've done with Arch, I figured it would be simple, but I think this is the first install I've done since dmraid added the 'p' designation. Other than needing to add the links from 'p' to 'no p' everything seemed the same, so I'm not sure where things are mucked up. Let me know if I can provide anything else to help. I'm sort of dead in the water until I get this sorted. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] We want to help
by Tomás Acauan Schertel 16 Dec '10

16 Dec '10

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 05:57, Andrea Scarpino <andrea(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > On Wednesday 15 December 2010 22:45:21 Loui Chang wrote: >> Finally, I'd like to honestly say I don't see AUR2 as really being a >> worthwhile investment for the next generation of the AUR. It's just >> another web app like the current AUR, it might have a couple extra >> frills, but I don't think it makes sense to rewrite the whole thing just >> for that sake. They can probably added easily enough to the current >> code. > I agree. > Instead of write code for AUR2, you guys should help fixing current AUR bugs or > implement new AUR features. Just my two cents. Guys, we're here to help where project needs. If you say the best effort is expand the current AUR, we gonna help on this. If you say that we need to close bug reports in flyspray, we gonna help on this. I agree that rewrite AUR just to have it running on Django but with no new BIG features is like working in vain. I'll start looking for PHP developers (to implement features on current AUR) and looking people to help on closing bur reports on flyspray. It that OK for you guys? > > Cheers > > -- > Andrea Scarpino > Arch Linux Developer > -- Tomás A. Schertel ---------------------------------------------- Linux Registered User #304838 Arch Linux User http://www.archlinux-br.org/ ----------------------------------------------

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[arch-general] dropping go-openoffice/icu-4.6 rebuilds
by Andreas Radke 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

The former ooo-build project "go-openoffice" is deprecated by upstream developers in favor of the upcoming LibreOffice (LibO). It's time to drop it from our repos while we are rebuilding all OpenOffice branches for the icu-4.6 .so-bump. Please use the vanilla Oracle openoffice-base packages or try out the new and already very stable libreoffice packages. The Oracle office beta and devel packages will get rebuilt when new upstream releases will happen. Don't expect them to work when we move icu-4.6. They are of low interest. -Andy

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[arch-general] why I'd rather use Python over Javascript for web development
by C Anthony Risinger 14 Dec '10

14 Dec '10

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Kaiting Chen <kaitocracy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:14 PM, C Anthony Risinger <anthony(a)extof.me>wrote: > >> the benefit to the pyjs approach is 100% client side operation, so it >> can run without online access. additionally, the python-DOM version >> (or the pyjs version if proxying thru a local daemon) could >> potentially direct install from the website, leading to "install now" >> functionality. lastly, python means you could use the same lang to >> write the front end and the backend, and communicate using JSON >> messages. >> >> as a professional web applications developer by day, i can vouch that >> writing webapps requires knowledge of about 4 different haphazardly >> implemented "standards", requiring far to much painfully acquired >> knowledge. by using a library like pyjamas, you allow anyone with >> python experience to write incredibly functional plugins/modules, and >> share maintenance load. django is a great platform, but after i >> discovered pyjamas about 1yr ago, i haven't looked back, and am >> convinced that compiler technology is the only sane way to develop >> complex and maintainable web-based applications. > > Out of curiosity why is everyone so again just writing Javascript? Everyone > seems to want to write in some other language and then compile to Javascript > these days. --Kaiting. well for me at least, it not 100% related to javascript itself; JS is an incredibly powerful language that will let you hang yourself again and again :-) primarily, it's: ) JS is completely unstructured. powerful, but causes developers to implement many things that would be a part of the core syntax in other langs ) the ^^^^ causes many different impls of the same, and new devs to misuse the really great things about JS, like first-class closures. leads to absolutely obtuse and horrendous looking libraries, with weird semantics for its usage, like passing objects to emulate named arguments, and a hundred other more prudent examples. ) umpteen number of naunces between browsers, browser versions, and half-eaten standards. maddening. combined with [some] similar problems with both HTML and CSS, and it's enough to drive one ape-sh*t. soooo.... i use a python abstraction to give me my favorite language and all it's goodies while also shielding me from platform variation, along with widget libraries to support the build-once-deploy-everywhere thinking. yes, JS has some decent libraries, and widget sets (don't say extjs). but pyjamas can be ran as a 100% python desktop app too. so ultimately, compiler tech gives me a 100% cross-desktop cross-platform cross-browser cross-version solution... try it out, it's like finding a nude beach after walking 100km thru a blizzard :-) C Anthony

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] filesystem 2010.12-1
by Jesse Young 14 Dec '10

14 Dec '10

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:21:41 +0100, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Morning, > > this is a minor update to the filesystem package and I hope we can > finally move it to core. Only change is: > > * don't check if profiles are executable; FS#22036 > > Please sign off, Hopefully I'm not too late. But I think you should know that filesystem depends on iana-etc, which is not in the base group, nor is it on the core install CD. What I would do is to add iana-etc to base/core ISO, which should not hold up this signoff, but if another course of action is taken, it might block this filesystem release from moving to core. I've opened https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22101 to track this task. conditional-user-unsignoff x86_64. Regards, Jesse

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[arch-general] Howto Preserve Current Kernel through Update?
by David C. Rankin 14 Dec '10

14 Dec '10

Guys, I want to keep the current kernel while I upgrade to 2.6.36-2 and where I confused is how to use mkinitcpio to do this. What I think I can do to preserve the current kernel as 2.6.36-dcr is: (1) cp -a /lib/modules/2.6.36-ARCH /lib/modules/2.6.36-dcr (2) mkinitcpio -k 2.6.35-dcr \ -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf \ -g /boot/kernel26-dcr.img mkinitcpio -k 2.6.35-dcr \ -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf \ -g /boot/kernel26-dcr-fallback.img \ -S autodetect (3) update grub menu.lst and create entries for the dcr kernel Before I wasted too much time chasing my tail, I thought would put this out to the list and see if (or what) I'm missing. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] Testing kills shm and pts
by jesse jaara 14 Dec '10

14 Dec '10

Shm is used by pulseaudio I think and also i copy my chromium profile from hd to shm an boot and then remove cache and copy the profile back to hd when i shutdown. Also it is used by one script that simply touches a lock file in there. Reproducing is as simple as just rebooting the pc and the permissions are broken and shm is mounted whit beautiful size of mere 10 mb and it used to mount whit a size of 1.4G :D (it broke my chromium profile :( as it didn't fit in there ) Il try to add those options and the size option too to the fstab and see if that helps, hopely this won't eat my chromium profile again :D -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] Testing kills shm and pts
by jesse jaara 14 Dec '10

14 Dec '10

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[arch-general] 2010.12-1 archboot "2k10-R8" ISO hybrid image released
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Dec '10

13 Dec '10

Hi Arch community, Arch Linux (archboot creation tool) 2010.12-1, "2k10-R8" has been released. To avoid confusion, this is not an official arch linux iso release! Homepage and for more information on archboot: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot Forum: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=110009 Summary: - bugfix release with latest kernels Hybrid image file and torrent is provided, which include i686 and x86_64 core repository. Please check md5sum before using it. Hybrid image file is a standard CD-burnable image and also a raw disk image. - Can be burned to CD(RW) media using most CD-burning utilities. - Can be raw-written to a drive using 'dd' or similar utilities. This method is intended for use with USB thumb drives. Please get it from your favorite arch linux mirror: - http://www.archlinux.de/?page=GetFileFromMirror;file=iso/archboot/2010.12 - <yourmirror>/iso/archboot/2010.12/ Have fun, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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