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[arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website
by Martín Cigorraga 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

I don't know if this was addressed before, I'm sorry to say this and you'll probably hate me but it's something that get my attention: the authentication in Arch's website is, at least, very unefficient. At worst, it's directly against Arch's Way, I think (I'm not the best guy to say this, just giving my first steps in Arch). Why should someone need to register at least three times, one for the forums, one for the wiki and one for the AUR? Shoudn't be sufficient with just one-time login/registration? And what about editing own nick or password? You know, at any time you may want to uniform all your passwords to a master one or just change it from the default you get when registered. I would like to know if there's any specific reason to have three separate accounts for the same website sections. Regards, Martín

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[arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?
by David C. Rankin 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Guys, It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update was: [2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2) Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 "no more untiered mirrors" post from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list, pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again? If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] howto fix log errors: avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet.
by David C. Rankin 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Guys, My logs have been filling up with avahi-daemon messages. The avahi errors always appear in groups of 3: Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Anybody know what we need to do to fix the query packet error? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support
by Alex Matviychuk 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

I just spent some time setting up my new laptop with an SSD to use NILFS2 as its root filesystem and I'm very pleased with the performance. In an effort to get better support for NILFS2 in arch I've added a request to move nilfs-utils to the base group and submitted a patch to initscripts to bring up the nlfs_cleanerd daemon if root is formatted as NILFS2. If NILFS2 is used on other partitions the mount command brings up the daemon on it's own. These two bugs should make it easier to add NILFS2 support to the Arch Installation Framework. Related bugs here, patch comments welcome: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20260 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20261 Cheers, alexmat

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[arch-general] arch-dev-public misleading
by jesse jaara 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch Linux and apps. This also makes me think that there must also be a closed mailing list for the developers and USA government only, where they can discuss about putting a spying app to every single arch box there is. :D

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[arch-general] makepkg patch - generate .SRCINFO file when running "--source"
by vlad 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hello list, Here is a patch against makepkg from git which introduces a new function "write_srcinfo()". This generates a file .SRCINFO - like the .PKGINFO one - when "makepkg --source" is run and then it is added to the src.tar.gz archive. I think having such a file is an important step for getting split packages to the AUR. It is also useful for third party applications. Since this file is generated during making the source archive, there is no need for parsing/sourcing the PKGBUILD everytime meta infos are needed afterwards. This is also a way of standardizing the source archive. .SRCINFO looks like (generated for gcc from core): " # Generated by makepkg 3.4.0 # Tue Jul 27 12:56:38 UTC 2010 global pkgbase = gcc global pkgname = gcc global pkgname = gcc-libs global pkgname = gcc-fortran global pkgname = gcc-objc global pkgname = gcc-ada global pkgver = 4.5.0-6 global pkgdesc = The GNU Compiler Collection global url = http://gcc.gnu.org global packager = Vlad George <donvla(a)users.sourceforge.net> global builddate = 1280235398 global source = ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.5-20100610/gcc-core-4.5-20100610.tar.… global source = ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.5-20100610/gcc-g++-4.5-20100610.tar.b… global source = ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.5-20100610/gcc-fortran-4.5-20100610.t… global source = ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.5-20100610/gcc-objc-4.5-20100610.tar.… global source = ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.5-20100610/gcc-ada-4.5-20100610.tar.b… global source = ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/libstdc++/doxygen/libstdc++-man.20100312.tar.bz2 global source = gcc_pure64.patch global source = gcc-hash-style-both.patch global source = r160561.patch global license = GPL global license = LGPL global license = custom global arch = i686 global arch = x86_64 global makedepends = binutils>=2.20.1 global makedepends = libmpc>=0.8.2-2 global makedepends = cloog-ppl>=0.15.8 global makedepends = libelf global makedepends = gcc-ada gcc depends = binutils>=2.20.1 gcc depends = libmpc>=0.8.1-2 gcc depends = cloog-ppl>=0.15.8 gcc depends = libelf gcc groups = base-devel gcc install = gcc.install gcc-libs pkgdesc = Runtime libraries shipped by GCC for C and C++ languages gcc-libs groups = base gcc-libs depends = glibc>=2.11.1-2 gcc-libs install = gcc-libs.install gcc-fortran pkgdesc = Fortran front-end for GCC gcc-fortran depends = gcc=4.5.0-6 gcc-fortran install = gcc-fortran.install gcc-objc pkgdesc = Objective-C front-end for GCC gcc-objc depends = gcc=4.5.0-6 gcc-ada pkgdesc = Ada front-end for GCC (GNAT) gcc-ada depends = gcc=4.5.0-6 gcc-ada install = gcc-ada.install " As you see this file contains of different parts separated by a leading tag. "global" denotes the global PKGBUILD vars and the name of the split package denotes the local package variables. However, this is just a first formatting approach. This can be changed according to further needs. I think this is a clear and easily readable/parseable output. Note that "packager" defaults to the person who actually build the source archive. Perhaps this has to be changed to AUR user name, not to the makepkg.conf PACKAGER entry. Vlad --

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[arch-general] "community/jre" and "community/jdk" packages are out of date - PKGBUILD proposal
by Guillaume ALAUX 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Hi everyone, "community/jre" and "community/jdk" packages are out of date. I have merged the two PKGBUILDs in one split PKGBUILD (enclosed to this email with the srcpkg) and updated the links and md5sums. It works fine on my i686 Arch. Will test it on x64 tonight when at home. Would someone want to test it further? Could it be useful to the official AL repo? If the merging into a single split package isn't worth it just say so and I could just update the current PKGBUILDs. I also have some suggestions for these packages: - rename them from {jre,jdk} to {java6-sun-jre,java6-sun-jdk} or so would enable us to use different versions of SUN's JVM (Java5, 6 and 7) - move files from /opt/java to /usr/share/java6/java6-sun-{jre,jdk} or so to comply with the AL Java packaging guidelines<http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Java_Package_Guidelines#Example_Directo…>. That would also enable /usr/share/java$i to host all JVMs files - use a custom script to build package instead of "buggy" construct.sh What do you think?

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[arch-general] New Xorg & nv / nouveau
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Hello all, The system I reported on in my previous post does seem to work, but graphical performance is *very* slow. (xorg 1.8, nv, nvidia Quadro FX 770M) This problem is obvious for xterm (for the first time in years I had to revert to a native X font to get any speed) and also quite evident in Emacs. Just displaying 4 audio level bargraph meters (using XPutImage to repaint the part that has changed) raises the CPU usage for X from almost nothing to 85%. To compare, an 8 years old machine also running Arch, xorg 1.7 and nv has no problem at all doing 200 of the same meters, barely reaching 10% CPU usage. As do a number of other machines, all running Arch and using nv or nouveau. I've read I all could find, tried everything I could imagine, but so far there have not found any solution. There is something wrong, and it starts with xorg 1.8 refusing to use nouveau - even if this module is loaded X insists on using its own driver. Before I installed nv it used vesa, which failed to use the display at its native resolution. All of this with the standard install of xorg, and just two files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, one fairly general and the other preventing a Thinkpad's attitide sensors to be seen as a mouse. Ciao, -- FA There are three of them, and Alleline.

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Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 01/48] Bashification of initscripts
by Thomas Bächler 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Am 17.07.2010 16:24, schrieb Victor Lowther: >> Sorry for taking so long. Apart from squashing the trivial >> bashifications, all patches I didn't comment on are ACKed. > > That is cool. I went ahead and reworked/squashed everthing I considered > a "trivial bashification" into 6 or 7 patches after taking into account > the feedback from the ML. The result is the bashification-redux branch > @ git://fnordovax.org/~victor/arch-initscripts -- it is now 16 patches > instead of 48, but the end result is exactly the same. I can post it to > the ML if you like. I looked over the new branch and found it much more readable. And although some of the patches are not 100% clean yet (at least one contains a trivial change that wasn't advertised in the commit), I like it. Just a remark about the cryptsetup/crypttab rework (that one is scary, and I didn't read it in details yet): The "last column" of crypttab can contain space, meaning that everything past the fourth column will be treated as one column (the options column). Did you take that into account? I don't think so. I know that crypttab is ugly and scary, and I was planning to replace it with something sane, I just never got around to actually doing it.

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[arch-general] pacman segfault problem
by b1 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Hey alltogether Unfortunatelly I ran into some really strange pacman problem. While performing an normal system update, my computer froze (due to some incorrect overclocking settings). After correcting the settings and rebooting, I tried to run the Upgrade again, and got this (after manually removing the lock file): error: segmentation fault Internal pacman error: Segmentation fault. Please submit a full bug report with --debug if appropriate. Afterwards I ran the pacman with --debug switch. Since the ouptut is rather long, I have attached it to the end of the mail. Unfortunatelly, gdb wasn't very helpfull, just showing 0x00007ffff78d8c96 in strcmp () from /lib/libc.so.6 If any one has any idea of how to replace the broken pacman with a new pacman or of how to fix this issue, I would greatly appreciate to hear from you. Thanks in advance Benedikt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.conf debug: config: new section 'options' debug: config: HoldPkg: pacman debug: config: HoldPkg: glibc debug: config: SyncFirst: pacman debug: config: architecture: x86_64 debug: config: new section 'core' debug: registering sync database 'core' debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 66: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archlinux/core/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://mirrors2.portafixe.com/archlinux/core/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/core/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/x86_64 debug: setlibpaths() called debug: option 'cachedir' = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: config: new section 'extra' debug: registering sync database 'extra' debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 70: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://mirrors2.portafixe.com/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64 debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: config: new section 'community' debug: registering sync database 'community' debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 78: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/community/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archlinux/community/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://mirrors2.portafixe.com/archlinux/community/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/community/os/x86_64 debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/x86_64 debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.conf debug: registering local database :: Synchronizing package databases... debug: destfile found, using mtime only debug: using 'core.db.tar.gz' for download progress debug: HTTP_PROXY: (null) debug: http_proxy: (null) debug: FTP_PROXY: (null) debug: ftp_proxy: (null) debug: ust.mtime: 1280144323 local_time: 1280144323 compare: 0 debug: ust.size: 36270 local_size: 36270 compare: 0 debug: files are identical, skipping core.db.tar.gz core is up to date debug: destfile found, using mtime only debug: using 'extra.db.tar.gz' for download progress debug: HTTP_PROXY: (null) debug: http_proxy: (null) debug: FTP_PROXY: (null) debug: ftp_proxy: (null) debug: ust.mtime: 1280495099 local_time: 1280495099 compare: 0 debug: ust.size: 466248 local_size: 466248 compare: 0 debug: files are identical, skipping extra.db.tar.gz extra is up to date debug: destfile found, using mtime only debug: using 'community.db.tar.gz' for download progress debug: HTTP_PROXY: (null) debug: http_proxy: (null) debug: FTP_PROXY: (null) debug: ftp_proxy: (null) debug: ust.mtime: 1280495442 local_time: 1280495442 compare: 0 debug: ust.size: 398411 local_size: 398411 compare: 0 debug: files are identical, skipping community.db.tar.gz community is up to date debug: loading package cache for repository 'local' debug: database path for tree local set to /var/lib/pacman/local/ debug: loading package cache for repository 'core' debug: database path for tree core set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/core/ :: Starting full system upgrade... debug: checking for package upgrades debug: loading package cache for repository 'extra' debug: database path for tree extra set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra/ debug: loading package cache for repository 'community' debug: database path for tree community set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/community/ debug: new version of 'autoconf' found (2.65-2 => 2.66-2) debug: adding package autoconf-2.66-2 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'avidemux-cli' found (2.5.3-2 => 2.5.3-3) debug: adding package avidemux-cli-2.5.3-3 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'cabextract' found (1.2-2 => 1.3-1) debug: adding package cabextract-1.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'chromium' found (5.0.375.99-1 => 5.0.375.125-1) debug: adding package chromium-5.0.375.125-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'cpufrequtils' found (007-1 => 008-1) debug: adding package cpufrequtils-008-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'cryptsetup' found (1.1.2-1 => 1.1.3-1) debug: adding package cryptsetup-1.1.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'dhclient' found (4.1.1.p1-1 => 4.2.0-1) debug: adding package dhclient-4.2.0-1 to the transaction targets warning: evolution: local (2.31.2-1) is newer than extra (2.30.2-1) warning: evolution-data-server: local (2.31.2-1) is newer than extra (2.30.2.1-1) debug: new version of 'ffmpeg' found (23619-4 => 24460-1) debug: adding package ffmpeg-24460-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'firefox' found (3.6.6-1 => 3.6.8-1) debug: adding package firefox-3.6.8-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'freetype2' found (2.3.12-1 => 2.4.1-1) debug: adding package freetype2-2.4.1-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'git' found (1.7.1.1-1 => 1.7.2.1-1) debug: adding package git-1.7.2.1-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'glew' found (1.5.4-1 => 1.5.5-1) debug: adding package glew-1.5.5-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'gtk-aurora-engine' found (1.5.1-1 => 1.5.1-2) debug: adding package gtk-aurora-engine-1.5.1-2 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'gtk-candido-engine' found (0.9.1-3 => 0.9.1-4) debug: adding package gtk-candido-engine-0.9.1-4 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'gtk-engine-murrine' found (0.90.3-1 => 0.90.3-2) debug: adding package gtk-engine-murrine-0.90.3-2 to the transaction targets warning: gtkhtml: local (3.31.2-1) is newer than extra (3.30.2-1) debug: new version of 'hunspell' found (1.2.11-1 => 1.2.12-1) debug: adding package hunspell-1.2.12-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'imagemagick' found (6.6.2.0-22 => 6.6.2.10-1) debug: adding package imagemagick-6.6.2.10-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'inkscape' found (0.47-3 => 0.47-4) debug: adding package inkscape-0.47-4 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'ktoblzcheck' found (1.21-1 => 1.27-1) debug: adding package ktoblzcheck-1.27-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'lib32-freetype2' found (2.3.12-1 => 2.4.1-1) debug: adding package lib32-freetype2-2.4.1-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'lib32-glibc' found (2.12-4 => 2.12-5) debug: adding package lib32-glibc-2.12-5 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'lib32-libtool' found (2.2.8-1 => 2.2.10-2) debug: adding package lib32-libtool-2.2.10-2 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'lib32-pulseaudio' found (0.9.21-7 => 0.9.21-8) debug: adding package lib32-pulseaudio-0.9.21-8 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'libgcrypt' found (1.4.5-2 => 1.4.6-1) debug: adding package libgcrypt-1.4.6-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'libgdiplus' found (2.6.4-1 => 2.6.7-1) debug: adding package libgdiplus-2.6.7-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'libmcs' found (0.7.1-1 => 0.7.2-1) debug: adding package libmcs-0.7.2-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'libmowgli' found (0.7.0-1 => 0.7.1-1) debug: adding package libmowgli-0.7.1-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'libquicktime' found (1.1.5-4 => 1.1.5-5) debug: adding package libquicktime-1.1.5-5 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'libwebkit' found (1.2.2-1 => 1.2.3-1) debug: adding package libwebkit-1.2.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'lua' found (5.1.4-5 => 5.1.4-6) debug: adding package lua-5.1.4-6 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'module-init-tools' found (3.11.1-2 => 3.12-1) debug: adding package module-init-tools-3.12-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'mono' found (2.6.4-2 => 2.6.7-1) debug: adding package mono-2.6.7-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'mplayer' found (31630-1 => 31774-1) debug: adding package mplayer-31774-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'orc' found (0.4.4-1 => 0.4.6-1) debug: adding package orc-0.4.6-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'p7zip' found (9.13-1 => 9.13-2) debug: adding package p7zip-9.13-2 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'perl-tree-dag-node' found (1.06-1 => 1.06-2) debug: adding package perl-tree-dag-node-1.06-2 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'php' found (5.3.2-6 => 5.3.3-1) debug: adding package php-5.3.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'php-apache' found (5.3.2-6 => 5.3.3-1) debug: adding package php-apache-5.3.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'pkg-config' found (0.25-1 => 0.25-2) debug: adding package pkg-config-0.25-2 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'pulseaudio' found (0.9.21-7 => 0.9.21-8) debug: adding package pulseaudio-0.9.21-8 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'pycups' found (1.9.50-1 => 1.9.51-1) debug: adding package pycups-1.9.51-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'sqlite3' found (3.6.23.1-1 => 3.7.0-1) debug: adding package sqlite3-3.7.0-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'system-config-printer-common' found (1.2.2-1 => 1.2.3-1) debug: adding package system-config-printer-common-1.2.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'system-config-printer-gnome' found (1.2.2-1 => 1.2.3-1) debug: adding package system-config-printer-gnome-1.2.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'thunderbird' found (3.1-2 => 3.1.1-1) debug: adding package thunderbird-3.1.1-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'transcode' found (1.1.5-3 => 1.1.5-4) debug: adding package transcode-1.1.5-4 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'transmission-gtk' found (2.01-1 => 2.03-1) debug: adding package transmission-gtk-2.03-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'ttf-liberation' found (1.05.3.20100621-1 => 1.06.0.20100721-1) debug: adding package ttf-liberation-1.06.0.20100721-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'vlc' found (1.1.0-3 => 1.1.2-1) debug: adding package vlc-1.1.2-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'vte' found (0.24.2-1 => 0.24.3-1) debug: adding package vte-0.24.3-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'x264' found (20100607-1 => 20100722-1) debug: adding package x264-20100722-1 to the transaction targets debug: new version of 'xulrunner' found (1.9.2.6-1 => 1.9.2.8-1) debug: adding package xulrunner-1.9.2.8-1 to the transaction targets error: segmentation fault Internal pacman error: Segmentation fault. Please submit a full bug report with --debug if appropriate.

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