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[arch-general] regression in nouveau ?
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 27 May '10

27 May '10

Hello all, over the past few months I have installed Arch on a number of systems, all of them used for quite intensive audio work (think of systems with > 1000 jack ports). All of them have worked flawlessly, no latency problems even with the standard kernel. Today I installed one more, on exactly the same HW as the previous one which was something like 6 weeks ago. Main difference is probably kernel 2.6.33 instead of 32. This system is completely unusable: almost anything 'graphical' - opening or closing windows, changing workspaces, etc. will generate showers of xruns. Using nouveau's 'no_accel' option solves the xruns, audio is as stable as it has ever been. But the system is again useless - just scrolling an xterm up one line takes a second or so. Nor has using this option been necessary before (all of the previous installs use nouveau). So has anything changed in nouveau that can explain this ? Any solutions ? TIA, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] Problems suspending since 2.6.33
by Michael Schaefer 27 May '10

27 May '10

Hello guys, since I upgraded for 2.6.33 several weeks ago, I encounter problems when suspending (or more precisely waking up) my machine. Since everything worked fine for month/years I first thought about a bug which might get fixed soon but while 2.6.33 is pretty settled and I couldn't find something in bug track I think the problem is somehow specific to my machine. As mentioned everything worked fine. I simply used 's2ram -f -p -m' to suspend my machine (need the parameter due to my ATI graphics card). No it seems suspending works fine but waking up crashes. When waking the computer up the screens stay black. In addition the HDD LED turns on for ~8sec and subsequent turns off. That's it. It seems dead. Also "blind" commands have no effect... I tried several parameter combination as well as pm-utils (which error-free logs confirm my assumption that at least suspending works fine). Also Xorg seems not to be the problem, since even suspending from a blank tty (without xserver running at all) does not make the computer wake up afterward. Any ideas on this? My machine: Intel P35 Chipset Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 ATI Radeon HD 3600 regards and thank you Michael

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[arch-general] extra/tomcat is out of date
by Guillaume ALAUX 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi everyone, A new version of Tomcat 5 was released nearly a month ago and our package in [extra] is still out of date (5.5.28 -> 5.5.29). Changing the version number and the related MD5Sum works like a charm for me (i686). I still need to test it on my x64 at home but in just in case, attached is the up-to-date PKGBUILD. Cheers, Guillaume ALAUX

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[arch-general] new pc; keep arch installation?
by Vincent Schut 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi, I'm going to get a new pc, replacing my now more than 5 years old pc. I would like to keep my current arch installation, and hope to prevent the need to do a full reinstall. I like the software I have, and I like the configuration I have... Could I just put my old harddisk (which is relatively new and still OK, I have SMART enabled) in the new pc and reboot? Both are amd 64 bit cpu's, the old one one of the first athlon 64's, the new one a Phenom II X6 1035T (and my current arch linux install is 64bit) Of course stuff like chipset, network chip, video etc. are all different. For video that would be no problem, I could install other (current = nvidia, new pc = ati) drivers from the text console. However, I'd like basic stuff and network to work :-) Could anyone give me an idea about the chance of luck for such an operation? Tips, hints? Or would you just advise a clean install and install and reconfigure all software again? Regards, Vincent Schut.

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[arch-general] Building packages and more
by Keith Hinton 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi all. I've been looking into several packages that are not in the community repository of Arch Linux. One is the Anope latest-stable package. If any of you have ran an IRC server such as UnrealIRCd, wich is in arch, then you will know what Anope is. I don't have the time at present to package Anope myself, and was intending to look at the old ANope 1.9 devel build, but that package is out of date. What if looking at that PKGBuild isn't enough and the Anope 1.8 package breaks? I've compiled Anope millions of times before on Arch, and other distros without problems. But the ./Configure script requires that questions are answered with either Y's or N's in specific places at least I think, it's been some time sinse I've ran an IRC network on Linux with the Anope services package. I wonder who the author of the UnrealIRCd package presently Is? Another package that I wonder if anyone would be interested in seeing if it is possible for inclusion (again) because I just don't have the time to do anything with it personally, is the Citadle mail server from: http://www.citadel.org/ I have found that server extremely simpol to install for those who aren't used to say Postfix, and the webserver even has an intigration with that, so that say Squirlmail isn't required. What do you folks think? I'd like to see the Anope stable/Citadle packages someday included in Arch. If I had the time I'd try to build those myself. But due to circumstances I lack the time necessary to maintaine such packages. Does anyone have any useful feedback? I've already read the wiki so this isn't an issue of "hasn't read documentation" This is an issue of not having time to maintain, so why would I wish to start doing something for the Arch community and not have time to continue once began anyhow? I love the Arch community, and although I myself am no C programmer, I still wish to help out by making useful package suggestions and such.If anyone has any great feedback on this posting please let me know, or do so off list! You can find me on irc.freenode.net #ArchLinux as Keith-BlindUser. Thanks again! Regards, --Keith Skype: skypedude1234 MSN Messenger: keithint37(a)hotmail.com Yahoo messenger /AIM: keithint1234

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Re: [arch-general] Running Mozilla Prism?
by Nicolás Reynolds 26 May '10

26 May '10

Quoting Nicolás Reynolds <fauno(a)kiwwwi.com.ar>: > Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:44:03AM +0100, Peter Lewis dijo: >> On Wednesday 26 May 2010 at 11:31 Peter Lewis wrote: >> >> The stand-alone app is only built for 32bit by upstream (that >> seems to be a >> >> common situation for Mozilla stuff, rather sad if you ask me >> ;-). The code >> >> is available in an SVN repo so it ought to be possible to do a build from >> >> source. >> >> > I just checked out Prism from SVN, but there isn't a readme on >> how to build >> > it and I don't have any experience with building mozilla's code. Also the >> > Prism wiki doesn't provide any information either. >> > >> > Will post back if I get anywhere... >> >> Okay, the build instructions are here: >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Prism/Build >> >> And it seems that it needs to be built inside of xulrunner and then >> separated >> out :-( >> >> I don't have time to do this right now, but if anyone fancies turning these >> instructions into a prism-svn package, then I'd be happy to help test. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pete. > hey, a few weeks ago i made a pkgbuild that builds prism from source. let me look for it and i'll share it. i send it to the aur maintainer, but he never replied :( -- Salud! Nicolás Reynolds, xmpp:fauno@jabber.org omb:http://identi.ca/fauno blog:http://selfdandi.com.ar/

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[arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
by Magnus Therning 26 May '10

26 May '10

It's that time for me again... my desktop is getting long in the tooth so I'm starting to look around for a replacement. This time I thought I'd also include laptops in my search. However, with laptops it's difficult to find out just how well they work with Linux. Are all the built-in devices, webcams, fingerprint scanners etc, fully supported? Is the power management (ACPI) fully supported? Etc, etc... In the past I've heard good things about Linux on IBM's ThinkPads. But I've heard some VERY bad things about getting Linux working well on Lenovo's recent models. So, I resort to ask for advice on this mailing list. What laptops should I have a look at? Is there some brand (Dell, HP, ...) that is more Linux friendly than others? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe

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[arch-general] Script to check monitor blank state
by Markus 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hello everyone, i would like to write a little script, that suspends my computer if a few circumstances are met. One should be, that my screen should be blanked. I already did a google search on this, but i only found howtos of getting it to work / disable it. It looks like xset q does not print the actual state. Maybe there is a hook for screen blanking? I know this is not a arch specific question, but maybe someone can help me. Markus

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[arch-general] Unable to install adobe air
by Madhurya Kakati 25 May '10

25 May '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am using archlinux 64bit. For the past few days i have tried every package in aur to install adobe-air but have failed. So my last option is to use a .deb package. Any way to install .deb in arch? Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL+8yLAAoJEFsDLiKSAHN6XFQH/2P3RZPQeNTkeGqMOADfUSiG jqvUJ058BO2eJsy6BlQ0Xkge8Vh/wDn0N/4ofBUT1SAtN3+GX0wMDX0/8JgoGpf3 AHwcd5wAJ7PQ/ojlY/1vXPtM6nn0qAHamt0PB/bUdEaILg9xDS0ydmKCgexrxkUz MH5BJosttxvS62E2RaCyD7aF1J6ZKrALJl/w8/xmuQzg1lB0YLd7euteyJWlsPuB EX3Tv/AhGBp04uaO2M8mgoCYVaH867DJXsSnLDpO2mKa19zGZWII1K+nBgq++tea xw1iGAwxl9xKXZ9T4tYpIahz7TPwcu2JwL7zbia8Tar30ELF0AFy/iFJ7plr7Y4= =FTLl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [arch-general] A question about Arch Sixty Four
by Nicky726 25 May '10

25 May '10

Dne Po 24. května 2010 15:36:37 Keith Hinton at arch-general- request(a)archlinux.org napsal(a): > Hi all. > I had a question about the sixty four bit port of Arch in general so > figured this would be an okay place besides IRC to obtain any help I > needed. I wanted to find out ruffly how much memory Arch sixty four will > use for any program in general, regardless of GUI/console? > I have an Intel 2 core dule T9600 2.80 GHZ, 4 Gb of RAM installed, with a > 320 Gb hard-drive installed in my laptop. > I tend to put a lot of RAM aside for virtual machines specifically. At > present due to some requirements, I'm using Arch virtually on top of a > Windows Seven host. > I want to put this setup later on to Linux, and for now am doing fine with > this virtual stuff. However I should mention that the host is 32-bit at > present, and I was curious how much RAM is used in general under pure Arch > 64? > I would probably attempt to alocate about 3GB from the system. > Anyone using virtualization and VMs heavily on any platform is aware of > the RAM requirements, surely. > I was just curious if I'd be making a mistake and/or if this would be > possible? > Thanks! > > Regards, --Keith > Skype: skypedude1234 > MSN Messenger: > keithint37(a)hotmail.com > Yahoo messenger /AIM: > keithint1234 Hi, I have experimentally found out, that 64 bit Linux distro uses like 40 -- 80 % more of RAM than 32 bit. Now it seemed to be both aplication and distro dependant, with Arch being on the better side. Though I've got to say again, it was not a benchmark, just my personal experiment. As for me, if I had a machine with plenty RAM (that is from my perspective ~GB), than I would choose 64 bit. If I had like 1 -- 2 GB, than I would definitely go 32 bit. Hope I did understand your question right. -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

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