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[arch-general] Ignoring packages and piecemeal updates
by Denis Kobozev 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi archers, It has been repeated a lot of times that doing piecemeal updates with pacman -Sy pkgname is not a very good idea. What about ignoring packages? Is it as dangerous? And a more general question: is it even theoretically possible to have a bleeding edge distro with piecemeal updates and with no required manual intervention during updates or is it just a pipe dream? Best, Denis.

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[arch-general] Arch is ummnn different: my 1st installation: tried to install xfce...OOPS!
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hello, I've been using various Linux distros for a while now. I just decided to give Arch Linux a try. But I'm a little bit lost. I'm used to distros like Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSE, etc... Where I don't need to personally understand what order I need to install which packages to get at least one GUI desktop up & running... The install itself went ok. But I needed to add a few things. First I used the list of typical tasks for pacman from the installation guide, to figure out how to look for a package and install it with pacman. I installed mc and vim without a problem. Then I thought it would be nice if I could get a desktop up. I did a: pacman -Si xfce|less and looked for a package that might get me to a minimal desktop I could work with. I thought maybe xfdesktop... pacman -S xfdesktop It wanted (I think) 26 packages to satisfy the dependencies... Sounded low to me but what do I know? I figured the next step would be to ask for help (or a good step by step how-to) But sooner or later I was going to want xfce so I said yes... I didn't get any errors until the last package (xfdesktop itself) Then there was an error with a line number (oops I didn't write it down) And I think something about gtk & icons, (something not existing...) <sigh> {If I'd figured out how to activate GPM I'd have pasted the error into a text file so that I could accurately report what it said.} When pacman reports an error, listing just one line number like that, does it stop processing. Or does the fact that there was only one error (about icons I think) mean that everything else in the package installed successfully??? More to the point: Will I need to figure out how to uninstall xfdesktop to resolve the error? Could some nice Arch user point me at enough step by step instructions so that I can get enough of a gui up to use a browser like firefox so I can try to find solutions via the web while Arch is actually running??? Please! -- | ^^^ ^^^ | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>> | ' `

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[arch-general] Hacking into HAL's mount process
by Nilesh Govindarajan 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

By default HAL adds the flush flag when USB devices are mounted... I think which is what making WRITEs slow. I want that HAL shouldn't add the flush flag. How to ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.1-1
by Ignacio Galmarino 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

On 03/15/2010 01:16 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > No idea if it is time for signoff yet, I have to check that with tpowa. > However, I put 2.6.31.1 in testing with these changes: > > - Added a trivial patch to support my touchpad (selfish, I know, but it > is already accepted upstream for 2.6.34) > - Removed EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23 due to some problems that upstream isn't > quite finished discussing yet - we can keep using the ext2 and ext3 > drivers for now. > sign off x86_64 ATI KMS early start is working again ! Ignacio

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[arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4
by Shridhar Daithankar 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Hi, Just wanted to share an interesting experience I had today. Check http://ghodechhap.net/btrfs.performance.txt -- Regards Shridhar

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.1-1
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

On 03/15/2010 08:14 PM, Eric Bélanger wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Thomas Bächler<thomas(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > >> No idea if it is time for signoff yet, I have to check that with tpowa. >> However, I put 2.6.31.1 in testing with these changes: >> >> - Added a trivial patch to support my touchpad (selfish, I know, but it >> is already accepted upstream for 2.6.34) >> - Removed EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23 due to some problems that upstream isn't >> quite finished discussing yet - we can keep using the ext2 and ext3 >> drivers for now. >> >> >> > I'm getting a: > error: /dev/sr0: No medium found > when building my initrc. The device exist and is my CD-drive. This is > on i686. Ask if you need more info This is already reported here: FS#18585 - [mkinitcpio] Silent error message: No medium found in autodetect hook http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18585 -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] twm: cannot open fontset
by Thanos Zygouris 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hello listmates, Here is a problem i encountered: twm doesn't start...i got this message instead: /usr/bin/twm: unable to open fontset <anyfont> I tried almost all the fonts xfontsel showed me, including "fixed", "terminal", "terminus", but with no success... But when i changed my $LANG from en_US.utf8 to C, twm worked! I tried to start twm into my friends pc (archlinux x64 also) and it worked right away (LANG=en_US.utf8) Searched Google and Archlinux forums, but seems like i'm the only person who have this problem (or bother with twm :P) I'd like to log in to twm, without having to change $LANG variable (as the normal behaviour is)...Can someone help me here? PS. I attached my xorg.conf, in case it matters...

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.32.10-1
by Thomas Bächler 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Packages are NOT in testing (as 2.6.33 is there), but available from http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kernel26/ Please sign off.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?
by Heiko Baums 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org>: > I really do not see the need. > > If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen. > If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... > we already closed the bug report. > If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report. And this is forcing the reporter to begging for reopening and looking again at the bug. Closing a bug too early can in the reporter's sight mean: "Hey! I'm the king and I decide if I'm willing to fix the bug. And if I don't want to, then you don't have to say anything. Your subject to my merci." Of course this is a bit exaggerated and of course in most cases the developer doesn't mean it, but this is how the reporter can easily understand it. And this can lead to such misunderstandings and to angry reactions. Don't see this only from your (the developer's) point of view. Try to see it from the reporter's point of view. Greetings, Heiko

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[arch-general] Resigning as a Bug Wrangler
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hello all, my free time is over to stay in the bugtracker in this year. In few days, I will start a new caeer "math professor", I am really very happy because it's something I always wanted to study, and beyond that, I really like teaching. Besides, I work as a teacher in a secondary school in electronics labs, along with other tasks. I hope I was helpful in the short time (9 months as Bug Wrangler / 14 months as Arch User). It really was an interesting experience and I learned a lot of everything in each day. (Also a bit of english language is improved :P) I want say thanks again to Andreas Radke, who at the time, offered me to be in the bugtracker (Secret: In fact, I bothered him via messenger asking him to allocate the multiple tickets that I was opening every day, hehehe :P), thanks for trust in me, and thanks all those who make Arch Linux more and more better :) @Roman: 's/Bug Wranglers/Reporters/' @Dieter: I will stay in these places if you need help in what I can do to archiso-2010.03 Good luck \forall ;) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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