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[arch-general] texlive (again?)
by Jan Spakula 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hello Archers, I want to bring up the TeX distributions issue. Current status: - tetex in extra: unmaintained (upstream) though still usable, some parts are already getting outdated (pdftex, some latex packages); - texlive in community: firmicus keeps it pretty up to date, the dist itself is actively developed. Proposal: Switch to texlive eventually officially (for now keeping tex-related pkgs in community). How it can be done: - from the dev side: 1) "officially" announce that the switch *is* going to happen. 2) move tetex and all packages depending on it from extra to community (that's only: kile, latex2html, lyx, texmacs) (the trouble is that these makedep on tetex: evince, kdegraphics, yodl; but maybe just keep tetex on the build machine for a time being?) - from TUs: 3) gradually replace tetex deps by texlive deps in community packages - from users: 4) gradually replace tetex deps in AUR by texlive Comments: - 3) and 4) don't need to happen instantly - we'll just have 2 tex dists at the same "level" in community for a while - note that none of the above programs link anything against tetex, they just need working tex compiler (which texlive definitely provides), so they don't even need to be recompiled - the official statement is important, so that we can nag maintainers to change dependencies ;) - there's been on/off-going discussion about this on the forums (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=358172 - tomk has said "Regarding the possibility of bringing texlive into the official repos, there are currently two missing ingredients among the existing dev team: interest and time. AFAIK none of us is a habitual tex user, and that would be the first requirement." - so this proposal asks for the opposite: bring the so far official tetex down to community, to level it out with texlive and make the switch powered by the users possible.) What do *you* think? PS. Sorry for the long e-mail (about 15-times longer than I usually write). -- Jan Spakula

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[arch-general] cairo and cairo-lcd conflict preventing me from getting updates
by Alec Hussey 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hey everyone, Ive been kind of frustrated lately because I haven't been able to update any of my pacakges because of a conflict between cairo and cairo-lcd. Here is the output from pacman. [maddog39@desktop ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... :: cairo conflicts with cairo-lcd. Remove cairo-lcd? [Y/n] n error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: cairo: conflicts with cairo-lcd I obviously want to keep that package and I even entered it in pacman.conf under HoldPkg and seems to have no affect. I dont know what I should do. Thanks! Alec Hussey

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[arch-general] Launchpad.net
by A. Klitzing 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi there, I registered "Arch Linux" to launchpad.net [1]. I like the idea of a corporate platform for linux distributions. I don't want to replace existing infrastructure (flyspray, ...). But it will help (me and some other, I think) to mark a bug to be presence in Arch, too. I used a lot of bugtrackers and the bugtracker of launchpad works very nice (even LP lacks flyspray-support at the moment [4]). Maybe someone wants to work with Arch and launchpad, too, like forwarding bugs to Arch if needed. I'm open to add people to that team [2] or give ownership to developers. Also I asked for Arch-Support on PPA [3]. But that will be a low priority. Best regards, André Klitzing [1] https://launchpad.net/archlinux [2] https://launchpad.net/~archlinux [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.launchpad.user/3508 [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/28738

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[arch-general] kernel26 2.6.25-1 enters [testing]
by Thomas Bächler 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

The new 2.6.25 kernel and most of the external modules are in [testing]. Changes: - Complete configuration overhaul - Removed phc patch - Removed mactel patch The removal of these patches was because a) there are no new patches available for 2.6.25 and b) I am trying to reduce the amount of patching, especially if it only benefits a few people or can be potentially dangerous. If there are any problems due to the configuration changes or new kernel bugs, please let me know. If you want to know more about the real changes, read here: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_25 I didn't update any modules, so if there are new versions available for any, please inform their maintainers. The following modules are currently broken. I didn't do any research on those yet, so if anyone knows something, please let me know. - atl2 (Simo, could you have a look, you must probably update it) - catalyst - martian - openswan-klips - slmodem (USB symbols are now GPL only, this driver will never work again unless it's rewritten in userspace - is this only a USB driver or also a PCI driver?) I wish you all happy testing.

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[arch-general] alternate dependencies?
by Neil Darlow 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi, Seeing the earlier post re. tetex and texlive perhaps there is a case for extending pacman to support alternate dependencies. By this I mean a package could depend on one of a choice of packages. The syntax could be something like: depends=( tetex|texlive ) where the individual dependencies retain their current features e.g. versions etc. Opinions welcomed. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] kdelibs 3.5.9
by Jakub Schmidtke 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Is there anybody using KDE in Arch at all? It has already been a month since submitting bug report about any KDE editor based on Kate being severely broken in KDE 3.5.9 (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9891 ) and even though kdelibs package was updated in the meantime, this bug hasn't been fixed. There was no response or a comment, and there is almost no work needed to resolve this issue, since I provided a patch (taken from KDE mailinglist - this bug is confirmed regression fixed in KDE's svn) and a PKGBUILD. I use modified kdelibs package anyway, but I think this is something that really really should be fixed.

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[arch-general] libSoundTouch.a but no libSoundTouch.so
by Nigel Henry 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

I'm trying to build Psychosynth on "Don't Panic". There are are a few deps, some of which I need to build from source (OIS, Ogre, and CEGUI). Soundtouch is also a dep, and is available from the Archlinux repos, but running ./configure on Psychosynth, it failed to find the libsoundtouch lib. Looking in /usr/lib, libsoundtouch has a libSoundtouch.a file, but no libSoundTouch.so file, which I presume is why ./configure for Psychosynth cannot find the library. Is this a bug, and if so, where should I report it? I did also download the soundtouch tarball from their site, but with configure, and make problems. ./configure complained that it couldn't find automake-1.9, which is true, as the version installed is automake-1.10. I created a symlink from automake-1.9 pointing to automake-1.10, then ./configure ran to completion, but then make complained that it couldn't find libtools, even though it's installed in /usr/bin. Make said it was looking for libtools in ../libtools, but I'm clueless as to where that is. Any help on that? Any help/suggestions welcome. Nigel.

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 42, Issue 29
by Keith 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

FWIW - This might belong on the forums; I've been meaning to post on the topic for a while, but life gets in the way sometimes, and I see the topic here, so... Karolina Lindqvist <karolina.lindqvist(a)kramnet.se> wrote: > s?ndagen den 20 april 2008 skrev Stephen Wilkinson: > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this may have stopped > > working in moving from 2.6.23 to 2.6.24? Is it no longer possible to > > run two sound cards together? > I got the same problem with my (only) built-in VIA sound chip. From kernel 2.6.24 and onwards, the chip has to be enabled in the bios. I had it disabled before. Check your bios settings, and enable the card if it is disabled. Before linux ignored bios settings, but it look likes it does not do that anymore. > Karolina I have 2 ASUS mobo's: an A8V-MX, and a A8N-E. I first bought and built a system around the former (using Arch), maybe 2 years ago. Sound worked fine. It has an onboard Realtek ALC850, but I have an old PCI-based ESS Solo ES1938S card (ES1939 drivers worked fine) which has always provided superior performance to on-board chips (in 2-channel mode, at least, which is fine with me - I don't use my computer as an MP3-player; I only need sound for YouTube/Flash, etc). It has also worked with every system I've build the past 6 years or so. Since the A8V doesn't have a PCI-E graphics slot, and I'd obtained an NVidia 6600GT, I bought the A8N and built a system around it (and the ES1939). No problem with sound. 8 months or so back, the A8N apparently burned up. It would start to boot, the do a full power reset, reboot, rinse and repeat. I couldn't even get to BIOS. I pulled everything out, including the 6600GT (used an old PCI S3 Virge DX for video). No change. I know it wasn't the P/S; I'm using the same P/S in the system I'm typing on ATM. I rebuilt my system, using the A8V and my OLD GeForce2 MX 400. Worked fine - but no sound (using the ES1939). I finally pulled the ES1939 out, enabled the on-board sound chip. STILL no sound. This goes back 6-8 months, I try sound again with every kernel update; nothing's ever changed. The manual which came (in the same, unopened box) with the A8V states the on-board sound chip is a Realtek ALC650; 'cat /proc/asound/cards' reports it as a 'ALC655'. 'lspci' reports a 'VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 70)'. my rc.conf MODULES array: 'MODULES=(mii via-rhine ac97_bus snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-rawmidi snd-timer snd snd-mpu401-uart snd-ac97-codec snd-hda-intel snd-via82xx soundcore)' I don't understand why snd-mpu401-uart, snd-ac97-codec, snd-hda-intel, and snd-via82xx are ALL loaded, especially snd-hda-intel. That makes NO sense to me. In addition to the ES1938S, I also have a SoundBlaster Live! Gold (CT4620) complete with a CT4660 Digital/MIDI daughter-card (which I don't need). I've re-installed Arch numerous times with and w/o the ES1938, SoundBlaster (with on-board sound disabled), and nothing seems to work. I switched from KDE to Xfce4 a few weeks back (and like it), but would gladly return to KDE if I could get sound working. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I've spend MANY hours, read the wiki's, etc, with no progress whatsoever (note I DO get a 'hum' when I first plug in my speakers, but nothing after that). I would be happy with ANY of these hardware solutions, as long as I have sound. All the appropriate entries in /dev/snd and /proc/asound are present, alsa is in my DAEMONS array in rc.conf. TIA.

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[arch-general] New abs and /var/abs/community
by Karolina Lindqvist 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

With the new abs, community disappeared from /var/abs. Do I need to do something special to get it? after abs shakti:~$ ls /var/abs core extra local README testing unstable shakti:~$ grep REPOS /etc/abs.conf # REPOS to be parsed by abs (in this order) REPOS=(core extra unstable community testing) shakti:~$

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel26 2.6.25-1 enters [testing]
by Thomas Bächler 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Thomas Bächler schrieb: > I didn't update any modules, so if there are new versions available for > any, please inform their maintainers. The following modules are > currently broken. I didn't do any research on those yet, so if anyone > knows something, please let me know. > > - atl2 (Simo, could you have a look, you must probably update it) Stupid me: I was talking about aufs, not atl2. atl2 is fine.

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