March 2008 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] [x-post] Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.24.3-2
by bardo 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Sure, but that doesn't answer my question- can a real time clock still > > be used for sound? It appears not. Are we sure we don't need one of > > the two options available (RTC or RTC_GEN)? > > > > -Dan > Hi > This is a good question, i don't have any idea how to test this. > Or for what it should be good for. The RTC is used, for example, with midi. My midi setup is broken for me with the latest [testing] kernel if I don't blacklist snd-rtctimer: playing a midi file results in just the first note going on forever. Funny thing is there's no such thing as snd-rtctimer.ko, but lsmod showed it, and removing it made midi working again. Corrado

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[arch-general] BitTorrents not seeding
by Ravi Desai 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hey, I've downloaded the torrents of Archlinux-i686-2007.08-2.{core,ftp}.iso, but am unable to re-seed them through bit-torrent. Deluge (the BT client that I am using) says this: "Tracker status: Alert: (HTTP code = 200, times in a row = 7)". I'm not really sure what that means. Is this a problem with my client, or is the tracker simply not working? Thanks, Ravster

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[arch-general] kde-18n-fr-3.5.9 - Broken tar archive
by marc[î1] 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello, kde-i18n-fr-3.5.9 is broken ! Erreur: erreur lors de la lecture du paquet /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kde-i18n-fr-3.5.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz: Damaged tar archive: Argument invalide Someone can help french user ? -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + + (o< -! marc[i1] #363392 + + //\ http://archlinux.fr + + \\/_ Linux for Free Generation + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +

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[arch-general] Kernel ext2 driver
by Peter Feuerer 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hi list, just wanted to ask, why ext2 isn't built directly into the kernel anymore? Is there any special reason? I would prefer to have ext2 built in again, because I'm dealing a lot with special configurations of archlinux, like thinclient installations where the whole image is running in an ext2 formated ramdisk and so on. Currently I'm building the complete kernel everytime I need to do an upgrade. But I think the ext2 driver isn't such a big ballast for standard systems, so you might want to do me a favour and set it as a built in driver of the standard kernel again. Would save me a lot of compile time. kind regards, --peter

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[arch-general] Boot sequence stops at modules (rc.sysinit)
by Stephen Wilkinson 04 Mar '08

04 Mar '08

Hello everyone, After upgrading the kernel alone (and after fixing some kernel panics -- see postscript) the boot sequence now stops at loading the modules ([DONE]) and goes no further: the cursor blinks and I can type characters, but I never get a shell prompt. It seems the boot sequence doesn't go beyond rc.sysinit The only reference I found to a similar problem is in the forum: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=323775 where it was suggested to try the fallback image and removing modules from the rc.conf. I've tried both, but hasn't helped (as expected: the kernel loads properly, so not an ramdisk problem, and the modules also load as I get [DONE] status...). Before this problem, I knew nothing at all about the boot sequence in linux so I read this: http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/The_Linux_Boot_Sequence Please correct me if I've misunderstood: after loading the kernel, the boot sequence gets to the init stage, and rc.sysinit is executed -- which, according to my '/etc/rc.sysinit' ends with loading of modules... but what happens next? I've looked at /etc/inittab but I don't understand how the sequence of events (and scripts) is specified. I tried booting into different run levels (adding 1 or 3 to the kernel line of grub), but it makes no difference. Because I don't get to a login prompt, I resorted to using a live CD to mount my root partition and tinker with /etc/rc.sysinit ... although I admit I don't know what I'm doing. I thought that maybe the initscripts package should have been upgraded at the same time as the kernel. In summary, what I've tried: - used a live CD to edit rc.conf (disable modules), and checked there was nothing in rc.local -- made no difference - tried booting with fallback image -- made no difference (didn't think it would as the kernel loads properly) -- made no difference - used a live CD to tinker with /etc/rc.sysinit but don't know what I'm doing, and it seems to complete successfully anyway, as all modules are loaded (status says [DONE]) - tried entering run level 1 by appending 1 to my Grub kernel line -- made no difference Is there a way to bypass what comes between the end of rc.sysinit (i.e. loading the modules) and the login prompt, so that I can at least log in and then try to fix the problem? In other words, how do I find out what happens after rc.sysinit and disable it? Thanks, Steve P.S: in case it's relevant, here is a summary of the kernel panics I got after upgrading the kernel and rebooting: After kernel upgrade I got kernel panics because I hadn't changed initrd26.img to kernel26.img and /dev/hda5 to /dev/sda5 in Grub's menu.lst (as you can see I hadn't upgraded for a long time, and didn't pay enough attention to the upgrade messages). Having done that, I then had to correct /etc/fstab for the same /dev/hda5 mistake. Finally the kernel booted properly, but the sequence stops at loading modules.

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[arch-general] Kernel ext2 driver
by Keith 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 at 13:41:46 +0100, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:50 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > > Your entire rest of statement was valid, but why on earth did you make > > a claim like this? I have to speak up and say something here. ext2 is > > nowhere near dead. I use it on my /boot partition on every Linux > > install, and every filesystem on my Eee is currently ext2. Hardly > > dead- unless "stable as hell" = dead. > > Ext2 is stable as hell, so is ext3. The point is that nowadays almost nobody wants to use a filesystem without journal, that's why I consider it dead. If journalling wasn't important (and if I didn't need filesizes bigger than 2 or 4GB), then FAT32 wouldn't be a dead filesystem either. Ext3 is basically just Ext2 with an added journal, so that's why Ext2 is still developed and supported. ??? First off, FAT32 is a native Linux filesystem??? AND it's dead??? I haven't used it in, maybe, years, but I do have one box for my printers/scanners with only Win98 or WinXP drivers. It would be nice to know I COULD dual-boot it and access the FAT32 partition(s), at least. Thought that's why it was there? I *never* use ext3, for anything. I've used ReiserFS, JFS, XFS. They all have advantages in particular situations. Ext3 seems to me a 'catch-all' not optimized (and, thus, NON-optimal) for any situation. However, for ALL my installs, I have a separate /boot partition - and it's ALWAYS ext2. ALWAYS. I guess I'm "almost nobody" - but who needs a journaling FS for /boot? As my /boot is generally in the 32-64MB range, the journal would take up virtually the entire FS (obviously, meaning I'd need a larger /boot partition, or else needlessly complicate the /boot partition creation; it's brainless as it is now). Last time I checked, /boot has no need (nor will it at ANY POINT in the forseeable future) for 2GB+ files or filesystems. I agree completely with Dan here. I'm FAR from a pro on Linux, but why this is even an issue of contention is going over my head...this all seems pretty simple, and pretty obvious, even to ME; pretty simply = ext2. KISS, right? Sincerely, Keith

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[arch-general] Firefox PGO builds
by Emmanuel Benisty 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hi Arch-General, Further to the /. discussion about PGO Firefox builds [ http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/27/2049258 ], I decided to give it a try out of curiosity. I just simply followed the instructions of Mozilla website about PGO builds [ http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Building_with_Profile-Guided_Optimizat… ] using an up-to-date CVS tree. So I just have few questions about this: - Is Arch planning to provide PGO builds once FF3 is released ? - Did anyone try to build FF3 wih PGO ? If yes, how did you manage to build it as user ? Using the 'default process' will require root privilege otherwise it will fail because of a simple permission problem. (firefox-bin:8960): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: Permission denied Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2/': Permission denied make: *** [profiledbuild] Error 1 ==> ERROR: Build Failed. Aborting... To launch FF between the 2 builds, I used the simple script of the mozilla doc (Cf. link above): #!/bin/sh export NO_EM_RESTART=1 mkdir $OBJDIR/_profileprofile $OBJDIR/dist/bin/firefox -no-remote -profile $OBJDIR/_profileprofile As root, everything is working as expected. The point is that running FF (to 'build' the profile) as root is really something that I would like to avoid for obvious reasons. Thanks a lot in advance for any suggestion/advice.

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[arch-general] Anyone using fprint for authentication ?
by Alper KANAT 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hey There, I want to use my fingerprint scanner to login through GDM and GNOME Screensaver... I can do this right now partially... It always asks for my password which is maybe secure but annoying at the same time.. I want to use fingerprint login first and if it fails then I want to use password login.. Any ideas for how to do this ? I'm trying this in GNOME Screensaver but it asks for the password whenever I slide my finger on the scanner.. -- Alper KANAT http://raptiye.org

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