November 2009 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Fresh install of 2009.08 -> hal, dbus, PK - no mount of usb for normal user (again...)
by David C. Rankin 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Guys, I did a fresh install of 2009.08 on a new drive for my laptop. For the past 8 months, I have never gotten the freedesktop.org -- removable policy to work. (well, maybe for a week or so before the kernel change in July). I wanted to make sure I got it right this time so I haven't monkeyed with the policies yet. In kde4, all of my removable devices are properly recognized (usb sticks, 2.5" laptop drives connected via usb, etc.). Despite being recognized properly, (1) the user cannot access the drives - until root has accessed them (like opening konqueror su) (2) none of the drives are mounted for the user under /media - until root has accessed them What makes no sense to me is that after root has accessed the drives, the user can use them (I guess the actual "mount" occurs when root access the drives, even though kde4 shows them as connected for the user through the notifier popup in the task bar) I finally just wrote a script to mount removables under /mnt that can be called by the users (basically uses sudo to mount and case on partition name and size to mount the drives on the proper mount points) Something has got to give. I've wiki'ed myself into a coma and still -- no joy. If one of the arch mount-removable gurus would just slip me the secret, I would be much abliged :-) It has to be simple, but simplicity has escaped me for quite some time now. However, I am determined to get it right with the new install. I know the wiki well, but where is the other document that I can use along with the wiki to make sure I have a good working system? Thanks for any help you can give. Sincerely yours, "stumped by hal, dbus and PK. Rankin" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] APM gets re-enabled after awake from suspend
by Karol Babioch 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi, my hard drive suffers from the "clicking" problem, therefore I deactivated the APM (Advanced Power Management) totally. I'm doing this using hdparm in the /etc/rc.local, making sure that it gets executed every time I boot up my machine. However I noticed that the APM gets re-enabled after I wake my machine up from Suspend-to-RAM, which makes the hard drive clicking again. I'm now wondering whether this is "normal"? I guess so, as the hard drive gets disabled during the suspend, and after a wake-up it gets re-enabled, so any changed made with hdparm don't get stored. Is this intention right? Secondly I want to know what would be the right file (place) to fix this. I'll have to execute the hdparm command again, but don't quite know where to put it, or at least where it should be put ;). -- Best regards, Karol Babioch <karol(a)babioch.de>

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[arch-general] preferred laptops.
by Eric Jacobs 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hello fello archers.. I've recently been going through a bit of a rough patch with my laptop usage.. I had a 15" macbook pro (dual booted with arch linux), which I recently sold because I thought it was ugly, the mouse didn't work very well, and frankly I was trying to de-appletize myself :).. I just received my refurbished dell studio 14z and got arch up and running on it, but I can't decide if I like it or not.. I haven't gotten used to the mouse yet. The resolution is less than desirable. (13 something x 7 something). And there isn't a latch on the lid.. but I do like the size, aesthetics, weight, and the keyboard feels nice.. So I'm asking you, if you have a laptop, what kind is it? Does arch run pretty well on it (synaptics, sleep/wake, etc.)? What window manager do you think works best with the touchpad (I'm using gnome now)? Any input would be appreciated. ------------------------------ -Eric Jacobs

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[arch-general] file system capabilities
by Shridhar Daithankar 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi, I was reading thr. /. commentary on the latest linux kernel bug, got drifted into file system capabilities. and got this, (from http://lwn.net/Articles/313838/) [root@presario shridhar]# ls -la /bin/ping -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33360 2008-10-04 17:48 /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# chmod u-s /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# setcap cap_net_raw=ep /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# ls -al /bin/ping -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33360 2008-10-04 17:48 /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# exit shridhar@presario ~$ ping 192.168.1.5 PING 192.168.1.5 (192.168.1.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.354 ms ^C --- 192.168.1.5 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.219/0.286/0.354/0.069 ms so can this be done by default? thus reducing setuid usage? it should improve security right? -- Shridhar

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[arch-general] Swfdec Gnash
by Lars Tennstedt 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi there, the current problem with the new Xorg and the NVIDIA legacy driver and the progress of the nouveau driver let me think about removing the another last proprietary package on my systems. Please tell me of your experience with Swfdec and Gnash for example with YouTube and other flash content. Thanks for your time! Bye Lars

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup
by Damjan Georgievski 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

>> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? > > I'd like to affirm the opinions of Roman and Xavier and take some action on > this. > > Anyone object to my putting storage-fixup in [extra] at least? If no > objections by W 9/21, I plan to go ahead with that step. If it works out, we > can talk about follow-up steps like: > > 1) moving it to [core] > 2) integrating it into default rc.d scripts > > It's a pretty serious issue for laptop users with affected drives. And the > drives are pretty popular ones, methinks. Also note that, when raising awerness about this issue, the fixup ussually needs to be run on resume from disk (and I think resume from ram) too. Not only on boot. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Radeon (xf86-video-ati) verdict
by David C. Rankin 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

After working with the ati driver instead of the radeonhd driver, I must say I am very impressed with the KMS implementation. It works much, much better than in the past (performance is still way short of fglrx, and it is still much HOTTER than fglrx , but screen artifacts are virtually eliminated, desktop effects are good, and compiz works very well with the driver. Helluva job Arch team! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] Preferred Laptops
by Sherry Howell 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

> Hello fello archers.. > > I've recently been going through a bit of a rough patch with my laptop > usage.. I had a 15" macbook pro (dual booted with arch linux), which I > recently sold because I thought it was ugly, the mouse didn't work very > well, and frankly I was trying to de-appletize myself :).. > > I just received my refurbished dell studio 14z and got arch up and running > on it, but I can't decide if I like it or not.. I haven't gotten used to > the mouse yet. The resolution is less than desirable. (13 something x 7 > something). And there isn't a latch on the lid.. but I do like the size, > aesthetics, weight, and the keyboard feels nice.. > > So I'm asking you, if you have a laptop, what kind is it? Does arch run > pretty well on it (synaptics, sleep/wake, etc.)? What window manager do you > think works best with the touchpad (I'm using gnome now)? > > Any input would be appreciated. > > ------------------------------ > -Eric Jacobs I've dumped OSX and am happily running arch on my macbook 4.1. I'm not suggesting you go spend the money on one, but if you did, you'd be very happy with it. Once I figured out how to get past the EFI boot system, the only thing I've had issues with at all is getting lirc to work correctly, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Tried everything! But, wireless works excellent - broadcom and all. The synaptics simply needed a little tweaking using the instructions gleaned from the ubuntu forum. Sleep and wake worked out of the box. Every window manager I've tried worked great with the touchpad. I used kde 4 for a while, but have settled finally on xfce because it reminds me more of my first linux machine (fvwm on an old pb 486). Plus it's a lot of fun hearing "Oh, how cool, you've got a macbook -- what the heck is that?!?" --Sherry Howell

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Magazine
by Daniel J Griffiths 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Loui Chang wrote: > Hey guys. I'm just curious. What's going on with the magazine? > Is there any intent to revive it? > > I know that I'd look forward to news/forum summaries at least if there > isn't time for all the other stuff. > > Cheers. > > I received the above email from Loui on the 31st and have been putting a good deal of thought into the current magazine/newsletter situation. As many of you know, Kensai recently moved and got married and I recently moved and have been trying to find a job. Shortly before receiving this email, Kensai and I had discussed the issue, but we didn't come to any real decisions. Hence, I'm sending my thoughts to the community and letting you in on the discussion. One of the possibilities that was brought up was separating the newsletter and magazine, much as it was when I first started AUM. I do not believe this is a good course of action due to one of the main reasons for the merger: the licensing rights to the Arch name and logo. While the magazine did well on its own, I simply can't afford to maintain the domain and server for it without help from the community, but I can't accept financial contributions for said project as long as it is using Arch branding. On the other hand, leaving it the way it is is proving difficult. I don't know Kensai's current situation, but I'm seeing less and less of him online which makes submission of any completed magazine/newsletter issues difficult as he is the only one with upload rights to the server currently on staff. My situation has settled down enough that I am now able to dedicate the time necessary to continue production of the magazine/newsletter as I used to. In fact, I have a good bit of content ready for the next release, whenever that becomes possible. I would like to see the magazine/newsletter make a comeback to where we were when we left off and then some. I want to see more community contributions, writers, I'd like to get the Schwag report back (Dusty, that's you if you're still up to it), etc. This is a big project that has greatly benefited our community and I hate to see it in it's current state. Please let me know what you all think so that we can expedite the release of another issue! @Kensai: Let me know what your current situation is (I know how being a newlywed is, been there a few times now...), and either way, best of luck (hopefully your luck is better than my first attempt was).

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[arch-general] google wave
by Jonathan Brown 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Hi all, I know this is off-topic, but does anyone have a google wave invite that they just don't know who to give to? :) If so, I'm a bit desparate to try it out! Would be much appreciated and I would return the favor to others! jbssfl(a)gmail.com --Jon

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