August 2009 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Problems with install Iso
by richard terry 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Hullo all, I tried to ask this a couple of days ago and for some reason it ended up as a flame war about chakra between people I don't even know and I'm not sure what triggered it, so I'll try again. I've used arch for many years and always been happy (I actually run it on 5-6 machines which I maintain ok). My laptop got a libreadline file problem after upgrading, so after backing up I just decided to reformat the drive the the latest arch linux iso I downloaded last weekend intending hence to use kde4.3, and have been spectacularly unsuccessful in getting the drive formatted using the install iso. with the /arch/setup program I tried auto to do the whole drive (it was a brand new seagate 500gig HDD) > no action, just sat there. I tried using CFDISK > create partitions > then the setting the mount points didn't recognise any partitions were there. After a couple of reboots and retries it did recognise the partition was there, but wouldn't let me allocate mount points. On one occasion it allowed me to allocated mount points but then just died. To prove to myself that it wasn't the drive I tried the chakra alpha on it which recognised the partitions and installed ok but this I've removed as I want arch proper. I'm at a loss to know where to head because this is my software developement machine (private not in any way related to a business) and I've been reduced to using xfce4 (not that bad actually) on an old drive, but all my email is in kmail (7+ years of it) which I don't want to have to import into thunderbird and kmail won't run on the machine with the corrupted installation. So, is there anyone who could give me a hint as where to proceed - I've tried re-downloading the iso and reburning it and the md5's are ok. Rescue disks or Knoppix read the partitions fine. Is there any way I can paritition and format with an external tool, then use the command line to install a base arch system so I can bypass the installer? Any help, even if you answer off list would be appreciated. Regards Richard

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[arch-general] nvidia card - fans are really cranked up after the latest driver update a week or so ago
by David C. Rankin 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Listmates, I have been chasing an issue on Arch having to do with the 8800GT in it. A couple of weeks ago there was a driver update from Nvidia that has caused the fans on my video card to really take off. With all drivers before that there wasn't a noise issue. The box is dual boot with openSuSE 11.0 so I can confirm that this is an arch/nvidia issue. Has anyone else noticed fan speed increases on your NV cards here lately? If so, any solutions?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Seahorse crash
by Francesco Groccia 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Hi, when I try to sign a file (command: 'seahorse-tool -s file.ext'), Seahorse crashes with this message: ### ** (seahorse-tool:6760): CRITICAL **: prompt_signer: assertion `GPG_IS_OK (gerr)' failed ### That means I don't use seahorse nautilus integration. Additional info: Arch64 seahorse 2.26.2-1 gnome 2.26.3 What happened?

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[arch-general] Phone App for KDE 4.3 (on x86_64)
by Chad Kellerman 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Arch..... Just wondering what phone apps people are using with KDE 4.3 on x86_64. I'd rather not go and install all the x86 libs for the 32bit version of Skype. I have a lot of upgrades this week, just want to be able to call into a conference call with VOIP. (so I can use a headset, the speaker phone keeps the wife awake at night.) Any suggestions would be helpful.. Thanks, Chad -- A grasshopper walks into a bar and the bartender says "Hey, we have a drink named after you." And the grasshopper says "Really, You have a drink named Murray?"

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[arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
by Nathan K. Bathory 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:10:27 +0200 "Ali H. Caliskan" <ali.h.caliskan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ...says the "sweet talker" who knows what he talks about. Why don't > you patch your fracking mount as you patch the PKGBUILDS! > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Thomas Bächler > <thomas(a)archlinux.org>wrote: > > > Ali H. Caliskan schrieb: > > > >> Well, I'm not a Chakra or kde user but I can say that I quite > >> familiar with > >> the PKGBUILDS of core and extra packages, and needless to say, > >> it's not always consistent most of the times. So stop blaming > >> others and work your ass off when required! > >> > > > > Very polite of you. Let me reply with an equally polite "Shut up, > > when you don't know what you are talking about". > > > > None of the packaging problems mentioned in the original post exist > > in core/extra, there are no file conflicts when using kde from > > extra, and there is not a single package in extra (and probably > > also community)that requires or uses libjpeg.so.62. > > > > The only explanation I have is: > > - chakra installs outdated versions of arch packages in combination > > with kdemod packages which depend on libjpeg.so.6 > > - chakra installs kdemod, which since extra/kde 4.3 was released > > don't have proper conflicts= tags, so there will be file conflicts > > unless you delete the kdemod packages first. > > > > All the problems mentioned in this "fresh installation" result from > > the fact that the system was installed from chakra and has > > non-official packages on it that induce incompatibilities with the > > stock package set. > > > > please, please don't disrupt this list with your negativity... i have personally installed kde 4.3 3 twice.. there are no conflicts as the packages are, there was a problem from the day before kde 4.3 was pushed and that apeared to be from kde-unstable packages(4.2.90) which dissappeared the very next day, this caused files conflicts and the remedy, as has been stated may be to remove the existing packages prior to install. You also refuse to help yourself? in your arrogance, a question was asked which might have lead to you issue being resolved and you willfully chose to ignore it.

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[arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
by richard terry 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Massive headache, well, actually it wasn't an upgrade it was a brand new HDD (kept the old one). all this started when I was stupid enough to install scribus > libreadline version problems and couldn't back track, Some other file was somehow affected and needed to run a terminal because then my arch isntall wouldn't boot at all, so I opted to buy another disk for my laptop and do a new install as I felt that at somepoint I'd have to upgrade anway. I'd appreciate a bit of advice. 1) the libjepg.7 vs 62 problem - I've exhaustively tried every solution over the last few hours on the forums and cannot get kmail to work - loads but 'poof; up in smoke once the gui appears 2) Dolphin - I really liked konqueror - can one still install this as a file browser. I note there is a kdebase-konqueror package, using this > multiple 'file exists in the filesystem' messages I could use a force but god knows what this will trash. Any alternatives. 3) Is there anyway to have two tool bars down the bottom like one could in KDE3 4) is it is any way possible to import kmail boxes (in one go) into thunderbird - mind you I like kmail better! 5) Kwrite ? same applies kdebase-kwrite but is it possible to install under kde4.3? Overall this has been a very very painful experience. I found the archlinux iso would in no way allow me to partition and format my disk - I created these with an external program > once they were recognised, at other times not, but at the end of the day installation was impossible. Chakra was kinder to me - recognised the existing partitions, and installed everything (alpha3), mind you no keyboard, so it died at the add user, so I used the arch install disk to boot that system, and manually added users and grub-install. Then every second program seems to whinge about the libjepg thing. Not a happy chappy, having used ARCH since version 0.4 and it has always been such a pleasure to use and maintain. Any help/comments/advice would be muchly appreciated. Richard

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[arch-general] What happens with extra?
by Sergej Pupykin 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686/ has ~140 packages

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[arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
by Attila 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Hello, since there starts a new splitting game with the kde/kdemod packages i have a question for own packages. Would it be possible to use this conflicts=("kdebase-*") if i want to use a variation of the kdebase package which includes all. I know that than i have to fill up the provides array with the full names if this is necessary. Comment: Thanks for the pacman support of splitting PKGBUILDs. See you, Attila

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[arch-general] IPv6 firewall, same as IPv4?
by clemens fischer 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Can I put IPv6 rules into the regular etc/iptables/iptables.rules file containing only IPv4 rules otherwise? I noticed that both /usr/sbin/iptables and /usr/sbin/ip6tables depend on the same .so libs, so me thinks these libs need to have IPv6 support and all is well. Also, to make IPv6 work I put a rule to pass IPv6 protocol traffic outbound on eth+. Inbound packets are propably handled by the customary "-A INPUT -i eth+ -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT", as they get into the machine somehow. I didn't check packet counters, though. clemens

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Re: [arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
by vlad 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:06:32PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Aaron Griffin wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Attila<attila(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 09:52 Allan McRae wrote: >>> >>> >>>> No, that will not work. >>>> >>> Perhaps in the future? If not, no problem and i don't want to force you to say >>> me a release date.-) >>> >>> See you, Attila >>> >> >> You'd have to talk to the pacman guys. I suggest you file a feature >> request or email the pacman-dev list >> > > I just replied in the bug report but for those that are interested.... > something like: > > conflicts=("kdebase-*") > > may be achieved using > > conflicts=$(pacman -Ssq kdebase-) or simply cut and paste the output of "pacman -Ssq ..." into conflicts=(). > > > I would not recommend the general use of that.... > > Allan > > --

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